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April 17, 2025 91 mins

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Welcome to episode 87 of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives.

In this installment, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and leadership coach/journalist Jo Confino discuss the Noble Eightfold Path, a fundamental teaching that was emphasized by the Buddha. The eight elements of the path are: right view, right thinking, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right diligence, right mindfulness, and right concentration. 

The hosts focus on each element and explain their interconnectedness and how they form a comprehensive approach to self-discovery, personal transformation, and spiritual development. Jo and Brother Phap Huu also emphasise the importance of making the Noble Eightfold Path relevant, accessible, and applicable to contemporary challenges and needs, and the role of Plum Village community in adapting these teachings.

The episode ends with a short meditation guided by Brother Phap Huu.


Co-produced by the Plum Village App:
https://plumvillage.app/  

And Global Optimism:
https://globaloptimism.com/

With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:
https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/


List of resources

Interbeing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing  

Dhyana in Buddhism 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhyana_in_Buddhism

The Bodhi Tree
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhi_tree

Dharma Talks: ‘Right Livelihood and True Love’
https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/right-livelihood-and-true-love

51 Mental Formations
https://plumvillage.org/transcriptions/51-mental-formation

The Way Out Is In: ‘Taming Our Survival Instinct (Episode #65)’
https://plumvillage.org/podcast/taming-our-survival-instinct-episode-65

Sister Lang Nghiem
https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/sr-lang-nghiem

Sister True Dedication
https://www.instagram.com/sistertruededication/  

Brother Phap Ung
https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/brother-chan-phap-ung 

The Five Mindfulness Trainings 
https://plumvillage.org/mindfulness/the-5-mindfulness-trainings

The Fourteen Mindfulness Trainings
https://plumvillage.org/mindfulness/the-14-mindfulness-trainings 

Old Path White Clouds 
https://plumvillage.org/books/old-path-white-clouds-2


Quotes

“The question is whether you want to liberate yourself or not. If you do, practice the Noble Eightfold Path.”

“‘Now I have a path, there’s nothing to fear’ – because once you have the path, even if suffering is there, you will know how to walk it, because you start to see the way.”

“The Buddha said that there are two extreme paths that we should avoid. The first one is seeking sensual pleasures, the pleasures of the world. The second is the practice of depriving the body, such as the practice of asceticism. Those extremes do not lead towards happiness and peace, they lead to failure on the path of understanding and love. And he said we have to find a middle way. And the middle is the Eight Nobl

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