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November 7, 2022 41 min

The phenomenon of celebrity is quite…strange. Jackie talks about the pressure of maintaining a facade when notoriety places her in uncomfortable situations, and Preston advocates for a “hierarchy of opinions” to keep us all from becoming puppets. We also explore how celebrity culture affects the local church and its leaders.

Previous Episode Reference: Fame: Christian Celebrity Culture (Season 3: Episode 5)

Book Reference: Illusions of Immortality: A Psychology of Fame and Celebrity by David Giles 

Book Reference: The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis

Book Reference: When Narcissism Comes to Church by Chuck DeGroat

Podcast Reference: The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill by Christianity Today

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