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Welcome to this Watch LIVE. Hi, I'm Lydia Winters.
And I'm Boo Booyah. And today we're going to talk
about something that people havebeen asking about, people are
excited about. Yes.
You are excited. About It's a new watch alert for
my creator locomotive. Are you going to make the sound?
I don't know why I had to do it with my mouth too.
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It was better than mine, but OK.So yes, Creedor locomotive.
I talked about this quite a while ago, over the summer
actually, that I was getting it and then I got it in September.
But I just sometimes I like to just spend time with a watch,
just me and the watch. I didn't really.
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I didn't post about it. I haven't seen you for weeks.
I did. Oh boy, I didn't tell anyone,
you know, like, I didn't make a big deal about it.
I didn't even post a photo of ityet.
I just really liked spending time with it and therefore it's
quite fun to get to do this watch alert after I've been
wearing it for months. Yeah, that rarely happens.
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Yes, where you wear The first time you talk about a watch
publicly, you already really, really know the watch.
Yes, so when we did our Q and AIjust posted the credor on my
wrist. Is that the first time you ever
posted a photo of it? Yeah, I think it.
Is so and so LA time was like, hey, I see it no more Shino John
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Howden time to loom. Everyone was like, tell us more
about the credors. So I'm going to I like I said,
this is a watch where when I first saw it, I there was just
something about it. I thought it had a weird
interesting look. Yes.
And you were unsure when you first saw this watch like
images? Of course, images only.
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Then Masaharu, our friend from Odinki, Japan, he posted some
photos and that's the first timeI was like, oh, I mean, his
photos are like that. It's true, but it's also being
able to see what it really lookslike on someone's wrist, which
you can't always get from product photos.
Also he was wearing like a green, like kind of an olive
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green shirt, which is like my standard uniform.
Yes, it is. Something I wear all the time.
So it was like I could really envision it in a in a different
way. So I saw this photo, his photos,
and then I felt like, OK, I wanted to read everything about
it. I only knew it was Agenda design
being brought back and a little bit about Credor and that it's
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part of the Grand Seiko Seiko family, but also very unclear
where exactly. Yeah.
And so in 2020, we looked at a couple of credors, but we didn't
really know much about the brand.
That was like ohh, what's this credor brand?
Yeah, I was a bit like, ohh, I don't, I don't like that.
That's expensive. Yeah, I do think that.
I think that, but I was a little.
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I in that old timey voice that you love.
My. Old time.
Then I earlier this year we got to see Credor Ichi too.
Yes. And they were beautiful, but you
were like, OK, these are beautiful watches, but both from
a price point standpoint, but also from a stylistic
standpoint, they were not for you.
No. And so I kept feeling like the
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locomotive, just something kept drawing me back to it.
And so I decided, I actually reached out and asked someone I
knew at Grand Secco if there wasany way to get one because they
were 300 pieces and he was able to find one for me.
So I got it from the Grand Seccostore in Paris.
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They were amazing to work with and then I promptly was super
excited until like the day before it arrived and then I
panicked. So so here's what happens.
This is. Typically what I this is.
No, but you've never gone this far.
So hedging her bets, the day or maybe two days before it
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arrived, Lydia started pitching me that maybe actually this
watch is better for me than it is for her.
Yeah, no way, I panicked. She knew that I did like this
watch, but we didn't think at all.
Wish you could have had one. Yes.
We didn't think at all that we could get two of them.
No, and also we don't usually buy 2 of the same watch.
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It's a silly. No.
Especially when something, if something's really limited, it
just feels kind of bad to have two of them.
Yeah, to hoard two of them in our household there anyway.
So. But you suddenly were pitching
me that maybe this watch wasn't for you at all.
Maybe this watch was better on my wrist.
Maybe it looked better on my wrist.
Maybe I should go for this watchand I should buy it from you
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with no markup? No, obviously not.
Obviously not. And I started, I, I told you at
first like, I don't really want to think about that unless it
arrives and you don't like it. But that's what you had started
to convince yourself that since you hadn't seen it in person,
that it would arrive, You'd put it on your wrist and you
wouldn't, you would not like it.So then I started to get
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excited. I was like, you know what, this
is this kind of works out for me.
If you genuinely don't like thiswatch, I feel confident I'm
going to love it because I lovedit from the first time.
I saw it. And it took you time to like the
watch, right? So I was like, OK, this is going
to happen. It arrived and we open the box.
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Yeah. And then I was like, OK, I'll
try it on. Then you try it on.
This was actually miserable for you.
I feel really bad. Now and I was like, I'd rather
not try it on until you know that you don't.
Like it I was like, it looks good on me, it looks good on
you. It looks good, it looks good on
you. This is like a peek inside my
mind that I probably shouldn't share publishing.
Really was hedging her bets. But then I was like, I think it
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looks better on. Me, yeah.
It was only like an hour in. We're not talking.
It didn't take an. Hour in.
No, it was about an hour in, butit didn't take days or anything.
You didn't torture me for days of wondering whether I was going
to buy this watch from you. You, you.
You claimed it. Yeah, right.
Fully yours. It was, I just got worried right
before it was coming, which is typical for you.
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It is typical or like right after I buy something I'm like,
should I bought it? So I typically have this like
buyers remorse very quickly. It it, it always goes away, but
it's more of just like this is abig purchase and this one is
like it was against my rule of if I haven't seen a watch, don't
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buy it. Wait, I have that rule, but I
keep ordering like, yeah. You've been doing that all?
Yeah. You don't have that rule at all,
No. I don't have.
That rule. You're very different than me.
Boxes are just arriving non-stopfor Foo buoy wait.
OK, OK. But for me, when I it was that I
worried about, like, how big would it look on my wrist?
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Like would it feel nice? It turns out the titanium is so
lovely. Every time I hand the watch to
people, they're like, what? How does it look?
Like that. It's a full bracelet like that,
and it's a very wide bracelet for the case.
Yeah. So it looks like it should feel
heavy. It's metal.
It's big looking like a big look.
It's very it's not very thick. It's a very thin watch, but it
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just kind of looks like it has Fto it and then it's like feather
light. So this was the only Genta
design that he did for Japan andit was, I mean they really have
re examined as they say and reproduce this based on his
original sketch and it's really beautiful.
The dial has like 1600 radial lines created and sometimes it
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looks like an absolute rainbow, other times it looks a little
like dark grey brown. It's just super beautiful.
There is the the crown at 4:00 which I really like.
I was worried too that it would like feel too similar to my
Royal Oak, but when I actually have it in my hand it's so much
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softer. The Royal Oak is so much more
like brutalist. And yeah, I mean, the Royal Oak
has mainly straight lines on it.Yeah, and this watch is curved
everywhere. Yeah, it and it's so it just it
fits so nicely and one of the things I ended up really liking
is on you. It looked a little more like it
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fits me perfectly, but it feels like the watch head fits across
my entire wrist, which just gives it a very cool look.
Yeah, I think it looks super. Cool, you agreed that it looked
better on me, but I don't know if that's because you were just
sad or if you think it's. Been long enough that I can be
honest. I loved that watch.
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I did not think it looked betteron you because I wanted it, but
I said it looked better on you to encourage you to love the
watch that you bought. That I and I, you love you.
Reached out. You asked to get one.
You did get one. You deserved the watch.
You paid for the watch. It was your.
Watch I just I just, you know, got really I wanted you and.
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To only not keep that watch if you genuinely were like, I don't
like. It and I love it.
It's not what happened. I love it so much.
It looks super super great on mywrist.
I've been wearing it like non-stop I would say since I got
it. Yeah.
And so people know of many of Gerald Genta's designs for many
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different Swiss watch companies.And this is the only one He did,
as you said in Japan. He did it with Seiko, which
Credo is part of Seiko. And it just like is just
something that was kind of lost to time because I had never
heard it mentioned that Gerald Jente even cared about Seiko as
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a company or that felt any kinship with Seiko.
And he really respected Seiko and what they were doing and was
super excited, according to all the things we've read, to go and
design this watch for them and give it the name locomotive.
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Yeah, which was another part that I really liked because it
in French it can mean like driving force.
It's this like moving forward. And so for me, this was to
commemorate this big step of leaving my my stable job that I
had been at for 13 years and like going out on my own.
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So the the. Panic.
I'm embracing the locomotive andit's just been so I mean, like I
said, my friend, no Moshino, he was just amazing when he saw it.
My friend from Sweden, Tom, likeit's just when someone looks at
it and like they get it the way you do, it feels so nice.
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And I was also visiting the Simone Brett studio and they do
the these incredibly beautiful watches.
I think they have like a seven-year waiting list right
now. But the guys there were like, we
love that watch. It's so cool.
I just kept looking at it and that, you know, again, it's like
that. I think it's a feeling of pride
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for picking something that you really like and then getting to
see someone else admire it in a similar way.
I, I mean, OK, we all love a bitof validation, of course, but
it's also just like something that I really enjoy is to share
the passion of watches. And so when you have a watch
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that other people get excited about, that spark, that feeling,
it, it, it, it's as though it's this contagious, wonderful
feeling that you're passing around over this watch.
And I, I, I love that feeling. It, it is because everyone
reacts differently to watches and some people are like, oh,
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that's cool. And I had been like with a lot
of people that were like, oh, that's cool.
That's oh, I, I didn't know about that one.
But when you have someone that'sjust like handed over, I need to
just discuss this. It's such a nice feeling and it
makes me really enjoy all the times that I do that with
someone's watch, like tell me everything.
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About it, what I thought was interesting learning about like
the difference between Credor and Grand Seiko, because I don't
think it's very obvious and it took me a while.
To understand. Still slightly confused.
Well, also what what you know credor that's available in
Japan? Is totally different, yeah.
Huge range of prices, but Credo outside of Japan, which is very
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rarely available, is this very high end.
It's more on the high end side. But what I didn't understand
because I was like, OK, well, Jared Gerald Gento went to
design A watch for a Seiko. Like why not a Grand Seiko?
And like, it didn't even occur to me that like, Grand Seiko has
the grammar of design. Grand Seikos follow a formula.
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Their design is dictated by a set of rules.
Credor is where the artistic side of Seiko can exist.
And so someone like Gerald Genta, who has their own design
ethos, their own design language, could design A watch
for Credor. And it's very much a credor
watch. But it's also completely,
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unmistakably a Gerald Genta. Yeah, that's true.
It does have its own look and feel.
It's why I mean, I obviously immediately, like probably many
other people, looked up the Credo locomotive from the 70s.
Yeah, the original. Yeah, the original.
There's some around on Corona 24.
I know that like people get veryinto collecting them.
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I am such a modern watch Where. So for me, this really appealed
to having something that was this very special design from
the 70s from Gerald Denta, but then having a new version.
And also the dial, the dial is hard to explain because I don't
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believe the dial at all comes through in photos.
It's a dial that has a depth that I don't believe still
photos can communicate. And even videos that I've seen,
you know, people do a wrist rolllike you get it a little bit
more because you can understand a little bit better.
They interplay with light, but it's the depth of color because
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it feels like every color that exists is on that dial.
And at the same time it can looklike a black or a dark grey
dial. And that is just kind of
amazing. And you have to, especially when
you see it in like a bit specular light or sunlight, you
can see just how much that dial does something special with
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light that feels prismatic but also a little bit organic all at
the same time. Yeah, it was cool.
So they actually developed a special machine process so that
each line of the pattern could be directly engraved onto the
dial. So it looks almost like a hand
engraved quality to it, which I think is really nice.
And then it says, you know, the exquisite texture dial that
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shines beautifully, and it definitely does.
That I think that might be what's called an understatement.
Yes, it there's a lot of shine to it.
Yeah. I mean, for me, I feel like this
is just a really special and exciting watch.
And also to tie it, like I said,to a moment in time, that's
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important for me of this, like moving forward.
And also, you know, Genta chose this name of locomotive because
he hoped it would drive Credor ahead and then also like lead
Seiko into the future. So I think that's a really fun,
like it's a fun thing to think about and kind of take that
heritage of Swiss watchmaking and Japanese watchmaking,
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combine it together, and then, you know, have that be something
that I get to wear on my wrist. And take you into the future.
And take me into the future for sure.
An episode last week you said this was your in answer to
Trish's question, you said this was your best watch purchase of
the year. Yes, I OK, I'm going to say that
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even though I really love obviously like to own a Royal
Oak is just incredible. I bought the 33mm quartz Royal
Oak. I love it so much.
It looks like it perfect on my wrist, but I do feel like
there's just something really special about this watch.
It's probably partially because it's limited, very limited to
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300 pieces. It's partially because of this
time, the meaning behind it. This time in.
Your life this time in my life. But then it's also that I just
feel it looks so cool on me. Like I just.
I mean. That is a.
Very valid. Reason.
Like I just feel cool when I wear it.
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I look, I look cool when I wear it.
It fits me so well. I just it's it's this is one
that this is one of my top watches.
Yeah, that's how I feel. You I, I, I envy your wrist for
some reason. I feel like most watches look
great on you, like and with yourstyle like how you dress like.
I feel like most watches just kind of they work.
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On you I have AI have a wrist for watching I have a.
Wrist for watches. This watch I feel somehow is the
most you of any watch. You've bought.
Wow. And that's.
That's a lot because I have a lot of cool watches you.
Have a lot of good watches, but this one, I don't know, it's
special. OK, well there you have it.
Let me know what you think aboutmy creator locomotive.
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Bye everyone, bye.