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October 22, 2025 26 mins
Like true scary stories? In this one, a childhood game meant for fun becomes a lifetime of unexplained fear. From the streets of Zacatecas, Mexico to the quiet neighborhoods of Indiana, one family finds themselves connected by a darkness that began the night they opened a Ouija board. Strange knocks, opening cabinets, and chilling coincidences follow one man through his life, making him wonder if something has been following him all along.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It started as a childhood game, but would follow the
family from Mexico to the Midwest, would haunt them for decades.
Whispers return, and something unseen refuses to go away. My
name is Edwin and here is Jesse's true scary story.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
So I grew up in a town of him in Indiana.
The house that we lived in was built in eighteen
eighty because me father by my dad, my dad decided
to go see his mom Mexico. We go. My dad

(00:44):
has a two story house right there in the Scateca
st Nago, right there in the main city. And Dad's like, hey,
you guys want to go visit her. Tilo Pancho and
your cousin over there at the rancho the ranch. Yeah,
let's go. We'll go over there. Our cousin he's older

(01:08):
than us, five six years. So my cousin's like, all right,
come on, guys, I'm gonna side. We're gonna make a
little fire. I'm gonna tell you guys some stories. So
we're like, cool, we ain't have noo s'mores and whatever.
Can we're kids. We're like, we're excited. You know, we're
the first time on a rancho. He said, I got

(01:29):
something that really happened to me. One time. I'm out here.
You know, I got my friends over. They live on
a rancho. There's a lot of space out there. He said.
We started hearing coyotes. We're like, oh, yeah, that's normal.
You know you got a big rancho. They're gonna be
out here. He's like, no, But the problem was, there

(01:49):
was no coyotes. He said, we didn't see anything. We
went to look, we flet to lights. He said, we
out there and he's like, we didn't see nothing, but
we heard the coyotes. He's like, we know they're around.
It's not normal. He's like, there's things out here that
we cannot explain. We don't know what it is. He's like,

(02:10):
it could be a ghost, it could be a witch
like the Blue Hadad. And we're like, what are you
talking about. He's like, there's other things and I hear
that we can't explain, and we don't want to find out.
So we were like, all right, we're done. We're scared.
We're gonna go to sleep. When we came back from Mexico,

(02:34):
my mom and dad were like, Hey, we're gonna go
out with your theas and stuff. You guys want to
stay here, You want to go to your thea's house
and be with your cousins. I'm like, oh, yeah, we'll
go over there. They're like, well, we're gonna play a game.
I don't know if you guys want to play or what.
And it's called the Ouiji board and we're like, we

(02:57):
don't know what that is. They pulled out the Wiedi
board and they're asking it questions and stuff. Mind you
were like seven eight, we don't know much about that stuff.
He did momental, it just starts moving. I was like,
you guys, stop moving now. You guys are moving there right. No,
we don't move this. We don't touch it. We just

(03:19):
barely put our hands on the thing, and it tells
us what to do. I was like, so, what, like
God's telling you, hey, this is the answer that you're
looking for. And they're like, not necessarily, but something like that.
Comes to my one cousin and asked the question or
whatever I mean. And mind you, it was not windy,

(03:40):
it was not raining, it wasn't anything. It was cool,
calm night. Well as soon as you asked that question,
the wind starts blowing. We hear this, I'm like, what happened,
and they're like, I don't know what happened. Was somebody here?
I was like, I told my other cousin, I can
see if your mom or maybe her parents are back. No,

(04:04):
they're not there, so I think they got scared too.
The oldest cousins got scared, so they put it away.
One night, I had a dream and it was a nightmare.
I'm there and I'm walking. All of a sudden, the

(04:25):
ground opens and I feel and you see it's the
devil trying to pull me down. And I'm a kid
at this time. But I will never forget that dream
because I woke up crying and I asked my brother.
I said, did you hear or feel anything? He's like, no,
what are you talking about. I was trying to crawl

(04:46):
out this hole and I just never could crawl out
of it. I haven't had a dream like that in
a long time. But that dream, I don't know if
it was a sign that was was about to come.
I don't have no answer for it. I'll never forget
this day. Either. Our front of the living room, you

(05:08):
got the window to the front yard, and the only
way you're going to come through that yard is through
the gate that opens up right there through the sidewalk,
and we could hear it. They're out and it's just
me and my brother. We're sitting there and we're just
watching TV and we hear the gate open. We're like, oh,

(05:29):
they must be home. I look out the window and
I kid you not, I see somebody going through the
gate and through the side of my porch because they
couldn't come up to the straight porch because you would
see them for sure. I told my brother, I said, hey,
why did they go to the side, And he's like, man,

(05:50):
you stop it. That stuff in Mexico got you tripping.
Let's just go to sleep. They'll be home when they
get home. Okay, that's fine. So I left it alone.
I'm probably about twelve thirteen, and I'm seeing things and
I'm just like, nah, you know, I don't believe in that.

(06:13):
I don't think it's real. But thirty times, like I'd
get home from school and I'd be like, I see
something misplaced, and I'd be like, I didn't do that,
and I was like that my mom come in. I
think she'd probably come and messing all my stuff. Woh
did you move my thing over here? I had it
at that one side and I didn't touch it. She's like,
I not going to your room unless I go clean it.

(06:33):
And I haven't been in your room, so and I'm like,
okaytop in whatever. There was one specific time my dad,
I think, was outside cutting the grass or something and
I hear my name and it's like, yes, he only
said it like that because he couldn't say that Jay,
my name's Jesse. But he would say with the what

(06:56):
I'm like, Monday, keep us home. No response, no response.
So I left about what I was sixteen and I
started doing bad things in the streets. So about sixteen

(07:18):
I had to go to Puerto Rico. I finished high
school out there, but it was like a boarding home,
but it was almost like a jail. It was almost
like a teenage correctional center. Lock Up time was nine o'clock,
lights out, that's it done. This hallway was narrow. It
wasn't really big, real skinny, about five rooms on each side,

(07:41):
four people in the room. This place is creepy. When
I was graduating and I was nineteen already, all the
kids were gone, like they closed the place down. I
was there by myself because they're like, well, you got
to go back to the States because he can't stay there.

(08:02):
There's nothing for you. So I had to go get
a job and this and that. So I would stay
there and I would, you know, work build up for
my ticket. And like I said, it's this whole building,
like on acres of land like Montana, it's the Compo.
It's in the country. It's up top on the mountain.

(08:22):
It's Puerto Rico. So one day I'm in there, you know,
I lock up and I go into my room. I'm
just sitting in my room and I'm like getting ready
for bed, take a shower, go in the room, and
I hear the door slam. I was like, there's nobody here.
There's no way because there was no wind. Puerto Rico

(08:43):
very humid. Only time was when was there was a storm.
It would literally shutter the barns. You would hear the
metal smacking. There was no wind that night, and I
just start hearing the door slam. So I get out, like,
oh man, it is Wendy. Wanna go check or maybe
I've forgot to lock the door. Go down there and
doors locked. I pull on it. It's locked. It's definitely locked,

(09:08):
honest to god. I start praying. I said, I hear them,
please here by myself, just trying to make it back home.
The next day, the people that owned the property came
and they were like, hey, what's going on is I
was like, I don't want to stay here no more.
I think I have enough to get my ticket. I
was like, I just need a couple of days to

(09:29):
come stay at your house because I can't stay on
this property no more. Like Okay, come on, come on,
come on, pack your stuff, let's go. I was scared.
I was willing to walk down a whole mountain to go,
just walk the street because I was terrified of the
noises I was hearing in that poet official. It was bad.
I was like terrified. I get my money, I get

(09:55):
my ticket, and I go back to Indiana. I get back,
I start working with my uncle at a lawn service company.
I was living in Gary, Indiana at the time, nineteenth
wet behind the ear. Still I'm just going there. And
one day I get home from work. The house that
we're living in has a eviction notice. I'm like, why

(10:18):
is there an eviction notice on this? I've been paying
my rent to my uncle that he's supposed to be
paying So I called my uncle. I said, hey, what's
going on, man, I said, there's an eviction notice here.
I can't even get in the house. I can't even
take a shower. Well, that's your problem to deal with. No,
you got to go handle that. So I was like, oh,
I don't have any options. I called my father stays

(10:40):
in hamm in Indiana, and I'm like, hey, I need
someone to come stay because obviously I've got evicted. My
uncle didn't pay the rent, so I got kicked out
that place. So I go stay with him. So I
rent out the side apartment from his house. Two three
weeks to me being in there, I'm laying in the

(11:03):
bed and I'm like, doesn't feel right. Something feels weird.
And as I'm saying that, I'm getting the goosebumps. You know,
you have your little strainer where you got your pots
and pans and this and that, and you know, I
knew all my stuff was lined up, everything was organized.
All of a sudden, There's no way, there's no way,

(11:25):
it wasn't humanly possible that that pan could have fell
on the floor. Wake up the next morning and I
told my dad, I say, hey, you been hearing noises
in the house. He's like, what are you talking about?
That's low call. I'm like, no, I'm serious. I'm like,
I'm really. I said, the pan fell on the floor yesterday,

(11:46):
and I said, I was sleeping. I thought you came in,
but I would have heard you come in. And he's like,
don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Ask your mind.
A couple of weeks past, I wake up one morning
and the top cabinet in the kitchen is open. Yeah,

(12:06):
And you know, when I was younger, I used to
have some good times and I was like, maybe I
was drunk and I opened it or something. And no,
I don't think I did, though, because I didn't go
in the kitchen close it. Whatever. So I told my dad,
I said, I'm going to move in the basement and
I'll give you more money, because, yeah, I don't like
be living up here on the upstairs.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Why did I do that.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's about the time when I met my daughter's mom,
and so I moved her downstairs with me. Well, one
day I'm at work. She called me. She said, did
you come home earlier or something? Did you do something?
I'm like, no, what are you talking about? I'm still
at work right now. She's like, no, I heard the
back door open, like you just came through the door.

(13:02):
And I'm like, no, I did not come through the door.
I was like, you'll see me in about twenty minutes.
And she's like, maybe it was your dad. Then I
was like, probably he might have went outside and threw
some away or something, so I can tell my dad.
I sayd hey, did you go downstairs? Did you go
out to the back door and something? No, I didn't
go downstairs. Why I'm gonna go downstairs for I don't

(13:23):
need to go downstairs. After that happened, me and my
daughter's mom started having a lot of conflicts, just fighting
and stuff that wasn't even it wasn't even worth fighting
about it, like it was worth hurguing about. And shortly
after that she was like, all right, I'm moving on.
I'm getting out of here. I'm going to my mom's house.
So I stayed down there by myself. I'm just sitting there. Well,

(13:46):
I hear the cans move, I hear the door like
like when it hits the door, like clean, clean, clean,
like the cans the noise that to make the bag,
And I'm like, what the heck what was that? And
I go in tech the door was closed. It It
didn't slam at that moment, but it was closed, like
with enough force to make the bag make a noise.

(14:09):
Let's keep going. Just don't even worry about it, Like
it might be something, but don't even put it in
your head that something's there, because then you're gonna be
tripping all night and you won't be able to sleep.
My dad used to go to Mexico every December and
I'd be in the house by myself. You'd be like, hey,

(14:30):
go upstairs, check the mail, make sure everything's okay upstairs.
I'm like, yep, I got you. Don't worry. It'll be
safe when you come back. Don't worry one damn out there.
And I have a friend over and she's like, you
hear that, and I'm like, yeah, I do, but this
is an old house. I was like, it might just
be the creeks in the wood or the wind or

(14:51):
something making noise. We heard somebody walking upstairs, like if
my dad was there, but I knew that my father
was not there, and I was like, I don't worry
about it, don't worry about it. I was like, it's
just the wind. This is the old house. It's a
creaky house. It's gonna make noise. I was like, trust me.
I was like, the door slam by itself. I was like,
I think it was the wind. My friend was like,

(15:13):
what the door slam by itself. I'm like, don't worry
about it here, don't be superstitious. I was like, just know,
there's demons and angels and spirits everywhere in the world.
You respect them and you just let them be. Well,
we keep hearing it, keep hearing the walking, and I'm like,
all right, we need to go make sure nobody broke
in the house. I was like, let's go, let's go check.

(15:36):
Go up there and got the flash lights. I start
turning on all the lights. There's nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nobody.
Nobody like okay, well let's just go back. Said yeah,
let's just turn the music up so we don't hear it.
And that's it. My dad comes back and he's like, hey,

(15:58):
did you go in my room. I was like, no,
I would I go in your room for He's like,
I'm missing something. I was like, what are you missing?
He was like, Oh, don't worry about it's not your business.
I just asking if you went in my room. I
was like, well you if you don't tell me what
you're missing, how do I know what happened. Don't worry
about it. Don't worry about it. And you didn't go
in my room. Okay, fine, So I need my own space,

(16:18):
I need my own apartment. Now. I need to get
out of her. Because always in the basement, it didn't
matter if we cleaned up. It always was a black
mold in the whole basement. And one time, because I
knew my daughter was coming, oh, we bleached everything. We bleached,
we made sure everything was spotless. We put the paint
that covers the mold, all that, and we're like, we're good,

(16:39):
we're good, We're good. But somehow it kept molding up
in a certain spot, and it just kept building, building
building in a certain spot. Only two we couldn't figure
it out. So I was like, you know what I
told my dad, I said, we're tired. I was like,
I'm tired of this. I said, I can't have my
daughter sleeping in this mold. I can't She's gonna get sick.
I can't do this. I need to get my own apartment.
It's not good for us. So I move, But I

(17:05):
moved just across the street from my dad's house in
an apartment building. After about maybe a month in my
new apartment, I started hearing stuff. It's one of these
old buildings. I'm talking about old to where like the
vent is not a like a vent, how you see,
like nice one. No, it's an old squared vent like

(17:25):
I said, ham in Indiana, these houses and buildings were
building like late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds. So I'm like, ah,
maybe it's just mice. So I tell my landlord. I said, hey,
there's mice in this building. Huh. My dad comes and
he brings me a cat. What about two three weeks later,

(17:46):
I'm sitting in the living room watching TV and I
heard a cat head is going from left to right
frantically like I'm like, are you all right? What's going on?
And it's just looking at me. But you could see
like when the cats get the scared in them, like

(18:07):
they're fur puffs up. And I'm like, oh, don't tell
me you see a ghost kitty. And it just looked
at me and then it ran in the room. Well,
one day, my friend comes over sitting on the porch
talking and I hear the cat going and it climbs
up my screen door and didn't want to jump down

(18:30):
at all. It was looking back. Its claws were literally
grabbing each little hole that it had. And I'm like, yo,
do you see my cat. My friend's like, oh, yeah,
that's spighter cat. I'm like, no, my cat has never
done that. I opened the door. I think the cat's
are going to jump out, and no, the cat did
not let go of the screen door at all. I

(18:51):
guess saw something. Whatever it saw, it just was like
I'm not I'm going to the door. But it didn't
jump off the door, and it didn't run away with me.
Past forward, Now we're in twenty twenty when COVID starts
hitting I had my cat. I ended up losing my job.

(19:12):
The worst of the worst that could happen to somebody.
It happened. And I get a text from my cousin like, hey,
I left you a thing of Puerto Rican rice. I
left you a thing of a ham and this and that,
and I'm like, oh, cool, thank you. I go outside
and I'm like, bro, why are you tricking me on side?
There's nothing out here? He was like, man, I'm telling

(19:33):
you I left it. I'm like, did my neighbors take it?
I'm like, hey, did you guys, did you guys see
an aluminum pan out here? My neighbors like, yeah, we
saw it. We thought you took it in already because
he was like I was about to take it, and
I'm like, no, I didn't touch it. It was gone, disappeared.
My neighbor said they didn't touch it. I can't say

(19:54):
if they did or didn't, but they were like, no,
we saw it there and then it was gone. This
is twenty twenty two with now my wife. We're in
her house one day and this is what really freaks
me out. To the back door. The way it opens

(20:14):
is you had to move the pole because we had
to poll lodged under it so nobody can come in
because I wouldn't really lock right. Me and her sitting
on the couch watching TV. Well, we hear the back
door slam boo. I'm like, did you just hear that?

(20:35):
So I go check the door's open. It's fully open
because the slams are hard. The bar that we put
under it was on the floor, so I'm like, babe,
what happened. She's like, I don't know. I'm like, I
think I know, but I don't want to say. She's like,
what are you talking about. I'm like, whoa. I know

(20:55):
when something's wrong and it ain't right, I kind of
feel it. And she's like, oh, you brought something in
to me. I said no, I said, I can't answer that.
I don't know. And we had a pit bull too,
and I was like, the pipoo is right there on
the floor. So he didn't go knock that pole over
because sometimes he'd go downstairs to go just whatever. No,
he was there with us, and so we're like, man,

(21:17):
I'm like, Kelly, I told you. After that incident, her
grandma was very sick. So grandma stayed with us until,
you know, if she passed. It was weird because one
day her grandma was sitting there on the couch and
she's looking at the wall and she's saying, yes, yes,

(21:41):
I'm ready. I'm looking at my wife, like what's she doing.
She's like, I don't know. She's talking to the wall.
She's like, I'm ready, I'm ready. My wife put to
a TV. She's like, oh, maybe she's talking to her sister,
because his sister has passed away, and so she's like,

(22:01):
maybe she's talking to her sister. They say that that
happens when you start, you know, getting to the end stages,
that you start seeing things and you start seeing people.
And that was strange too. I didn't know what was
going on with that. In twenty two, my father, he
ended up having to sell his house, the one on

(22:24):
Carroll Street, and then his daughter and the mom of
his daughter came and convinced him to move out the
house to go to California and they take care of him.
He did it. He didn't want to. He didn't want
to leave that house. I don't know if something had
him or something. He did not want to do it,
but they made him. Well. It was March first, twenty

(22:46):
twenty two. It was the day before my wife's birthday.
I get a call.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's his daughter's mom.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Your dad just died. About a month or two after
he passed the house that he had owned originally it
burned down. How They said that something happened with a

(23:15):
furnish or something. But we never had I've lived in
that house a long time and we never had issues.
I remember I was walking past and these people were
working there. I'm like, do you mind if I come
and just walk through the house. You know, I was
raised in this house. Can I walk through? And I
walked through the whole house. So I seen a couple

(23:37):
of things that I remember my dad he cherished. I said,
you guys, mind if I take these. I'm like, I'm sorry.
This is the house that I lived in. And I
go into his little workshop downstairs, and I've seen something
that I ain't never seen that. I was like, oh,
did my dad have a tony or what is this?

(24:00):
B Yeah, it wasn't normal though. It was like like weird,
looking like almost like a troll. It was something like that.
I was like, what is that? I was like, my
dad don't keep out toys, especially in his little workbench.
He has nothing but like power tools and stuff like that.

(24:21):
But it was there. It wasn't barely touched. I didn't know.
So I grabbed a couple of things and I'm like,
I'm getting out here because I started feeling like something
was around me, like I started feeling scared. Like I
was like, all right, I need to get out of
here because I don't feel comfortable no more. And so
I took what I could and I was like, all right,
I'm going I do remember as a kid, my grandma

(24:46):
used to say, hey, you need to go get a limp. Yes, well,
I was a kid. I didn't know what that was.
And my grandma would go to church and she would
bring to the house. She would set not like little things,
she would set jar of holy water in the corners
of the house. And I'm like, Grandma, why do you
do that? Like I ain't mean home.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Gaya?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
And I was like, what, okay, Every Sunday or every
other Sunday she would go refill those yards with holy
water and put them back in the corners. I didn't
understand that. I was a kid. I didn't understand that
at the moment. What kind of makes sense now? Why

(25:38):
in life I always say, you never know what's happened
in these areas. I mean, there's land that is so
old that you think that just because it looks beautiful
that there's no problems with it. No, there's always something
wrong with it. I just always get an eerie feeling
like I don't know if it's good or bad. Spirits,

(25:59):
But for me, I'll never not say that there's not
spirits and ghosts and demons and angels, because there's all
of that and you have to believe it. If you
don't believe it, you're a fool. You're a fool.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
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This story was edited and sound designed by Sarah Borhez
Wendel a VW sound. Additional production by me Edwin Corrubiaz
and the Scary FM team. Thank you very much for listening.

(26:41):
Keep it scary everyone, See you soon.
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