November 12, 2025 • 28 mins
In this true scary story, we are revisiting out Dead End Apartments episode, where Haley moves into a newly renovated apartment at the edge of town, hoping to build independence. But strange noises, eerie dreams, and a growing sense of dread start to unravel.
This is the article I mentioned in the introduction of this episode:
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2004/03/31/remains-identified-norman-woman-police-tattoos-determine-body-found-year-reported-missing-september/61996216007/
You can find Edwin on TikTok, Facebook, and Instagram as @edwincov
Get our free newsletter over on https://bio.scary.fm/
Edited and sound designed by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
This is the article I mentioned in the introduction of this episode:
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2004/03/31/remains-identified-norman-woman-police-tattoos-determine-body-found-year-reported-missing-september/61996216007/
You can find Edwin on TikTok, Facebook, and Instagram as @edwincov
Get our free newsletter over on https://bio.scary.fm/
Edited and sound designed by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I turned to it and I said, what do you want?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And I took a step forward and it rushes that me.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Earlier this year, we published a story called dead End Departments.
There was a part where Haley mentions a type of
urban legend or rumor where kids had found skeletal remains
and thinking was a prop or something, they dragged it
around the area scaring each other. But we found the
article that details it, and it's linked the description. We're
(00:36):
also releasing an extended cut version of her story right now.
My name is Edward, and here is Haley's true scary story.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Way back in twenty ten, my sister was newly engaged.
I was living with her in a little house in
central Oklahoma. Her fiance moved in. I knew I didn't
want to cramp their style. I didn't want to be
the third Whill in their house, so I packed up
(01:15):
and moved out. I found this apartment. It was all
bills paid, very spacious, but the address was kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
It was on the east.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Side of the town, which is kind of a shady
part of town anyway, and I just didn't recognize that.
I was looking at where it was and it didn't
make any sense. I gave the apartment manager a call,
and she was brand new the area, and he and
(01:54):
some other people had renovated the apartment conflex.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I went and toured it.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'll never forget going through the neighborhood, and I was like,
the east side was kind of shady and had its
own infamous stories with it, different things, creepy things that
happen there. The way this town is apartment complex is
they were usually by a highway or by a main road.
It just didn't make any sense, but I followed the directions.
(02:26):
I went through this neighborhood, well into this neighborhood, and
I remember seeing that the direction said there's a dead
end sign, but keep going, and so I did. There
is this apartment complex in the dead center of all
(02:46):
these older homes, so they've been there a while.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I tore it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I absolutely love the apartment. The one I tore is
the one that I'm going to take. It was just spacious,
It's exactly what I needed.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I move in.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Everything's fine, But the only thing I kind of placed
my finger on was this feeling, this feeling, this heavy
feeling in there, especially in the bedroom. I didn't know
what it was, but I know what it is now
because I recognize the feeling elsewhere. In other places. It's
(03:30):
the feeling that you're not alone, the feeling you're being watched.
A couple months later, I happened to meet my now husband.
We start dating, he starts coming over, and that's got
(03:52):
to be when things started. I would wake up and
hear things moving, and it's just little things.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's not huge sounds. That's the weirdest part, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's little things. And then there's that overwhelming feeling that
I'm being watched too. So I'd wake up and he
would hear the same things. Clicks, things moving, and my cat,
I mean, the most fat, chill cat on earth. He
(04:32):
would be at the edge of my bed in the
middle of the night. It was always, you know, one
am until like five am. Instead of puddling with me,
instead of relaxing, he'd be on the edge of my
bed with his ears propped up right listening to everything
I would hear, and his.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Head would jerk too. I would come home.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
In the middle of the day and be for him,
and he's like a dog. He's like there to greet
you when he comes through the door. But when I
would come home from work or something, he would be
hiding under my bed and he never did stuff like that.
He would run out and you know, be really talkative
(05:18):
and be glad that I'm home, But I'm like, how
is he under there?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So I always had the feeling that something really bothered him.
I was always too scared to get up too. And
I remember it was around my birthday. I had tissue
paper and I would put that on the floor for
my cat to play with. I would hear it at night,
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moving around the floor like my cat was playing with it.
But whereas he at, He's still on the edge of
my bed, looking down at what I'm hearing. But I
don't want to look over the edge of the bed
on the floor. And I remember my husband looking at
him and thinking, that's really weird. Noises continued, and it
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was always at night, only at night. One night, you
know the holy thing for blinds that in my bedroom.
I remember I never saw it, but I know the sound.
I heard it being smacked against, like it was pulled
and then thrown against my blinds in my bedroom to
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the left of my bed. The noises kind of continued,
but in my head. I'm like, Oh, it's just me,
this is just me, this is just weird. It's all
on my head. I'll wake up if I have a
nightmare and like just watch like something funny, and then
I'll calm down right, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I'll go back to sleep.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
At this apartment, I would wake up and watch show
after show, movie after movie, and I would still be
terrified and I wasn't getting any sleep. I would finally
be able to pass out around like five in the morning,
when light starts coming out in the summertime.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
One night, I woke up.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I thought I heard something in the house. My husband
was staying over, but I didn't want to waken up.
I got up and I went to turn on my light.
I was touching the light right and it would not
click on. And then I'm looking around and I realized, oh,
(07:49):
am I still dreaming. I know something's there. I know
something in my house, and I have a filling I'm
being watched. I hear something and I see in my
doorway to the hallway there's a mist, a dark miss
punched over and I just know it's staring at me.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Even though it's just this black mist.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I think that I'm dreaming, and so I want to
wake up. I'm horrified. I want to wake up since
I was little. If I'm having a nightmare, I confront
the monster and I wake up. When I did this,
I turned to it and I said, what do you want?
(08:41):
And I took a step forward, and it rushes at me.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I get knocked over.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I feel like I'm knocked back into my body and
I sit up straight, I can barely breathe. I have
a hard time like making my heart just calm and
to go back to normal. And my husband wakes up
and he remembers me just being absolutely horrified by what
(09:10):
I just went through. When I talk to people about
that experience, and like everything was normal in my room,
except it was really.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Dark and I couldn't turn the light on.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
They believe it was astral projection, and I had never
done that in my life. You are in a dream state,
or you think you are a bit, you actually leave
your body and you're able. I never looked back and
saw my own body, but I bet if I did,
I would have seen myself laying there. But it's the
belief that you can be in that dream state and
(09:51):
be walking around. It felt so real and it scared me,
and of course I didn't sleep that night. That's going
to be a common theme, is me losing sleep, me
losing what you need every single night to focus and
be functioning. My dreams got worse and worse. I'm a
(10:17):
very vivid dreamer. Usually they're just kind of chaotic. It's
not really anything there, but the dreams I would have,
it's very hard to explain, and it's almost embarrassing, how
bloody and just body parts, heads, everything laying around. And
(10:42):
it would only be in the apartment. I would be
in the apartment looking around and there was just gore,
just absolute terror in the house, strown about and it
didn't make any sense to me, you know, And I
would just wake up horrified once again, like what is
going on? That it would always be in the apartment.
(11:06):
Another night, I was having this stream that I'm in
my apartment and it's all dark, and it was kind
of like when maybe I was astral projecting in my
room when I woke up and saw the thing in
the doorway, But this time I'm walking around in my
living room because I think I hear something and it's
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all dark and I'm walking towards my kitchen and I
see something in the corner of my eye, A shadow
run across the room and duck in a corner, like
in a dark corner behind my couch. I'm so tired
and fat up that I say hello, I saw you,
(11:54):
and I'm just mad right this thing crouching there, and
once again it runs at me, and I wake up again,
barely able to breathe.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Just the same feeling.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
One night, I woke up and I felt, you know,
like I was being watched like usual, but I can't
really move. It was more of a sleep paralysis, like
I just can't move. My eyes are open, but I'm
not moving. I see like a white light above me,
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or kind of light shining down and I can't move,
and it didn't make any sense, and it's really a
small part of the story, but I've never forgotten it.
Then I just close my eyes and I'm able to
wake up, and it's gone. This keeps happening, but I
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can't tell you how much denial plays the part. Like
whenever people are like, why don't you just move, I'm
telling you your own mind is your own worst enemy.
Because you think it's you, it's you, Like you're going crazy,
things are gonna be fine. It's always like the next
night will be better, like you're just hoping for that
(13:15):
to happen. I have my Halloween decorations out at this time,
and I remember that very clearly because I love Halloween.
And after these experiences, it started to not be so
fun anymore. I didn't like seeing certain things because it
reminded me of this apartment. But in my head, I'm like,
(13:39):
it's gonna be fine. Let's go have a date night.
And we did, and we came back to my place
and we made a palette on the floor, and I
remember we were gonna watch Beetlejuice and just have this
great time.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
We start watching the.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Movie and I remember feeling so sick, sick to the core,
body aches, fever, my nose started bleeding, and all I
can remember is I'm going to have to call into work,
Like you have that immediate feeling that I need to
(14:17):
call in. Oh no, what am I going to do?
I'm just absolutely miserable all night. I pass out at
some point. I wake up.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
As soon as the sun is up. I'm fine, I'm
not sick.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And when I get a fever and I'm done right
and so it was really really crazy. Over time, I
start to not sleep. Of course, that's the biggest drawback
(14:56):
with all of this, besides just feeling so scared all
the time. I decide to break my lease and move out.
I do so, and I save my cat and he
comes with me to my husband's house because he has one,
(15:17):
and I get permission to move in with him and
everything for my parents. I let the apartment manager now,
I said.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's a great apartment, but this has been happening, this
kind of stuff. It's so hard to explain, you know,
to her, and she seemed pretty open. She was like,
oh my gosh, I had no idea, like she just
said she'd ask around. So I'm moving out and a
guy friend comes over because he's going to take my couch.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
This is in the middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
We're just I'm just talking about different things with him,
and we go into my bedroom, which is basically empty
except a couple of I'm giving away, and we're talking
and then two lights go out as we're talking. It's
from the ceiling fan and he and I don't even talk, like,
(16:15):
we don't say anything.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They go out.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He walks over and checks the light bulbs, and two
light bulbs had been twisted out at the same time.
They don't fall to the floor, they just go out.
So he goes over and twist them back in and
they turn on, and he goes He's very contrary, my buddy,
(16:39):
he goes just so you know, that happens again. I'm
running and I was like, I get it, I get it,
I get it. I'm just fed up, right because this
time it's in the middle of the day, it's not
even at night, and I just say, I'm obviously moving out.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I get it. You're mad, Like, I don't even know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But I found that every time in the dreams and
anything else, when I would engage with whatever was there,
it made it so much worse, or I was confronted
or something would happen. But the light bulb thing was
the last time I stepped foot in that place.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So I start.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Living with my husband and he is he's in a
great house. That was our first house together, and that's
where we had our baby and everything and great memories.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But when I moved there, I.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Was still having sleep paralysis, and I had never had
that before in my life, but it was horrifying. I
didn't see anything. I would just be stuck and I
would hear voices that were hard.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
To make out. I had to take sleeping pills. Even
though I was in a new.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
House, I always felt scared. I still had that feeling
of just not ever being able to calm down. And
like I said, I love Halloween. I couldn't even watch
scary movies anymore, especially not alone. I was always always
anxious to the core. I am living with him, and
(18:16):
I have a friend that actually blesses homes and stuff,
and I always thought it was interesting, but I didn't
really know much about it. I remember telling him that
I am still not okay, you know, I'm still scared
all the time. He came over and him and my
husband left to go somewhere. I don't remember, but I
(18:38):
was at the house and he did text me and
he said that a young man has followed you there
and he seems lost, but don't worry.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I took care of it or I sent him on
his way.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So maybe my friend was like dealing with that without
trying to freak me out.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Because of what I experienced at the apartment, if it
was like I became more vulnerable to other things, other spirits,
other whatever, seeing me more as a beacon.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I'm not really sure, but after that, I was still scared.
I still took pills, just go to sleep at night.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
There had been rumors when I was growing up in
that area there were kids on Halloween dragging around what
they thought was Halloween decorations, but it was a body
that had been decomposing.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's a very wooded area. It's like they just kept
you know, older trees a little further off. There's this
big highway. I mean, that's how I would get there.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
My friend had quite the few stories when she would
have to babysit for people.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That lived over there. They were and newer housing.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I don't know if it's the area, that's why
I'm bringing it up to you, but she would wake
up and see a man in a loincloth like he
was Native American, staring at her, and then he walked out,
and so she and I would always think, like, wow,
is there a burial ground out there? Because I mean,
(20:25):
all over Oklahoma, those are a lot of the stories
that the kids tell their family built on property when
they didn't know that there were burial mounds where princesses
are buried. I had been out of the apartment for
(20:46):
a while and I get a call from the old
apartment manager, and she was just trying to settle something
else with my lease. But she said, oh, I asked
around to people that have lived in those apartments since
they were built, said, I found out about where you
were living. She had talked to the man across the
hall from me. I never got to really meet any
(21:07):
of my neighbors or anything like that, but she talked
to this older man, and she said a woman had
lived there with her husband.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
The last people to live there. This woman got cancer.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Stage four, and her husband packed up and left her.
They would hear her, and I remember the walls were
buried thin, and they could hear her crying at night.
All the neighbors could hear her crying at night. Of course,
(21:42):
you can guess she passes away. She dies in the bedroom.
Everybody knows she had passed on right, and the apartment
gets cleared out. After that, All the neighbors would talk
about it. All the neighbors could still hear her crying
at night. When she told me that on the phone,
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I immediately got goosebumps all down my arms because this
whole time, I'm the one that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm the one there's something wrong with me here. But
it all made sense.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
She said, I have a single woman living in there
right now. As long as she stays single, maybe nothing
will happen to her.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Because we put.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It together that I brought over my boyfriend my now husband,
and things started to really take a turn. When I
am moved out right, I bring back another guy friend
and then the light bulb thing happens in the middle
(22:52):
of the day. It seemed to be like some kind
of horrible, hateful energy left behind that did not want
men around, and I don't want to come off seeing
everything was like peachey king, because like I said, there
was a heavy feeling like I wasn't ever alone, but
it wasn't like what happened and what became physical later on.
(23:21):
I'm very lucky that I like found some sort of
answer to like maybe what was happening to me, because
I was in complete denial that it was on me.
After that, me and my husband get married, I find
out I'm pregnant, okay, and immediately I don't have sleep
(23:44):
paralysis anymore, and I'm able to sleep, I'm able to rest,
I'm able to have peace at night. Whenever I've talked
about it with other people or I've really thought about it,
what I believe in my heart is that my baby
like absolutely blessed me. And some people have told me like,
of course, babies are so protected.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I felt such a sense of peace.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Pregnancy makes you so uncomfortable in so many ways, but hey,
I was able to sleep and I got the rest
that I definitely needed. It stopped sleep, Prouse has stopped,
and being afraid stopped.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It was an incredible sense of peace that I felt.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
The Mayo Hotel in Tulsa, it's just beautiful, and me
and my husband stayed there a couple times. One sweet
we stayed in, I kept waking up and looking at
the doorway.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I mean I would just jolt out of my sleep.
Who's there?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You know, that kind of thing over and over, and
it was that feeling we weren't alone. Nothing else happened.
It was just that that heavy, heavy feeling, something's there,
something's watching. The only other time I felt that was
an angel fire New Mexico when my family went skiing,
we found a cabin up in the woods, and it
(25:19):
was it was really a door like two story in
the room. My husband and I stayed in same thing.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I would jolt up, you know, sit up and look
like who's there?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And I'm telling you, We've stayed multiple places, so it's
not like I'm this way with every place.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And it was oho. Something was there.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
And I remember talking to my sister in the living
room and it's just a little thing, but I remember
her looking to my left and she did a double
take and I go what and she goes nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I don't know. Something was going on there, and I
told her about that later. I didn't want to scare anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
But I was like, something is watching and something was
up in our room. During the time I was in
the apartment, I was kind of at a low point
in my life.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I think we all.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Have that kind of a bit of an existential crisis.
And it wasn't good health wise, everything, spiritually, why, you know,
spirituality wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So at night when these things would happen to me
and I.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Was so scared, I would say a prayer Joshua one nine,
pretty strong and end up good courage, do not be
afraid nor be dismayed because the Lord your God is
with you.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I would say that because when I was little, I
would say that, right.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
But I was not in a good place, like I said,
so I could say this first and maybe it makes
me feel a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But it wasn't genuine. I wasn't I wasn't being genuine
in my faith. And I think that really really form
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know, we're all different, but from my opinion, I
was not genuine in that type of prayer. And I
think I got stronger after this experience. With all that,
I think I was very vulnerable and whatever it was,
whatever she was right, that.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Was left behind. I think it feeds on that.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
It feeds on that negativity and that weakness, and I
just got weaker and weaker as I lost sleep and
lost my sense of self, and that my family saw
me change. I was just exhausted, and they believe me,
Like they're sweet people. They knew that I wasn't just
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making something up. They knew it was weird and that
I didn't want it happening. I'm not trying to get
attention that feeling of being watched. I'm just glad I
can recognize it. And now I'm like, oh, I wasn't alone.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
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Vorhez Wendel a VW Sound, with additional production by me
Edwin Kobar Rubiaz and the Scary ffteam. Thank you very
(28:29):
much for listening. Keep it scary everyone. Let see you soon.
I turned to it and I said, what do you want?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And I took a step forward and it rushes that me.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Earlier this year, we published a story called dead End Departments.
There was a part where Haley mentions a type of
urban legend or rumor where kids had found skeletal remains
and thinking was a prop or something, they dragged it
around the area scaring each other. But we found the
article that details it, and it's linked the description. We're
(00:36):
also releasing an extended cut version of her story right now.
My name is Edward, and here is Haley's true scary story.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Way back in twenty ten, my sister was newly engaged.
I was living with her in a little house in
central Oklahoma. Her fiance moved in. I knew I didn't
want to cramp their style. I didn't want to be
the third Whill in their house, so I packed up
(01:15):
and moved out. I found this apartment. It was all
bills paid, very spacious, but the address was kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
It was on the east.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Side of the town, which is kind of a shady
part of town anyway, and I just didn't recognize that.
I was looking at where it was and it didn't
make any sense. I gave the apartment manager a call,
and she was brand new the area, and he and
(01:54):
some other people had renovated the apartment conflex.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I went and toured it.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I'll never forget going through the neighborhood, and I was like,
the east side was kind of shady and had its
own infamous stories with it, different things, creepy things that
happen there. The way this town is apartment complex is
they were usually by a highway or by a main road.
It just didn't make any sense, but I followed the directions.
(02:26):
I went through this neighborhood, well into this neighborhood, and
I remember seeing that the direction said there's a dead
end sign, but keep going, and so I did. There
is this apartment complex in the dead center of all
(02:46):
these older homes, so they've been there a while.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I tore it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I absolutely love the apartment. The one I tore is
the one that I'm going to take. It was just spacious,
It's exactly what I needed.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I move in.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Everything's fine, But the only thing I kind of placed
my finger on was this feeling, this feeling, this heavy
feeling in there, especially in the bedroom. I didn't know
what it was, but I know what it is now
because I recognize the feeling elsewhere. In other places. It's
(03:30):
the feeling that you're not alone, the feeling you're being watched.
A couple months later, I happened to meet my now husband.
We start dating, he starts coming over, and that's got
(03:52):
to be when things started. I would wake up and
hear things moving, and it's just little things.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's not huge sounds. That's the weirdest part, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's little things. And then there's that overwhelming feeling that
I'm being watched too. So I'd wake up and he
would hear the same things. Clicks, things moving, and my cat,
I mean, the most fat, chill cat on earth. He
(04:32):
would be at the edge of my bed in the
middle of the night. It was always, you know, one
am until like five am. Instead of puddling with me,
instead of relaxing, he'd be on the edge of my
bed with his ears propped up right listening to everything
I would hear, and his.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Head would jerk too. I would come home.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
In the middle of the day and be for him,
and he's like a dog. He's like there to greet
you when he comes through the door. But when I
would come home from work or something, he would be
hiding under my bed and he never did stuff like that.
He would run out and you know, be really talkative
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and be glad that I'm home, But I'm like, how
is he under there?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So I always had the feeling that something really bothered him.
I was always too scared to get up too. And
I remember it was around my birthday. I had tissue
paper and I would put that on the floor for
my cat to play with. I would hear it at night,
(05:45):
moving around the floor like my cat was playing with it.
But whereas he at, He's still on the edge of
my bed, looking down at what I'm hearing. But I
don't want to look over the edge of the bed
on the floor. And I remember my husband looking at
him and thinking, that's really weird. Noises continued, and it
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was always at night, only at night. One night, you
know the holy thing for blinds that in my bedroom.
I remember I never saw it, but I know the sound.
I heard it being smacked against, like it was pulled
and then thrown against my blinds in my bedroom to
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the left of my bed. The noises kind of continued,
but in my head. I'm like, Oh, it's just me,
this is just me, this is just weird. It's all
on my head. I'll wake up if I have a
nightmare and like just watch like something funny, and then
I'll calm down right, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I'll go back to sleep.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
At this apartment, I would wake up and watch show
after show, movie after movie, and I would still be
terrified and I wasn't getting any sleep. I would finally
be able to pass out around like five in the morning,
when light starts coming out in the summertime.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
One night, I woke up.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I thought I heard something in the house. My husband
was staying over, but I didn't want to waken up.
I got up and I went to turn on my light.
I was touching the light right and it would not
click on. And then I'm looking around and I realized, oh,
(07:49):
am I still dreaming. I know something's there. I know
something in my house, and I have a filling I'm
being watched. I hear something and I see in my
doorway to the hallway there's a mist, a dark miss
punched over and I just know it's staring at me.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Even though it's just this black mist.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I think that I'm dreaming, and so I want to
wake up. I'm horrified. I want to wake up since
I was little. If I'm having a nightmare, I confront
the monster and I wake up. When I did this,
I turned to it and I said, what do you want?
(08:41):
And I took a step forward, and it rushes at me.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I get knocked over.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I feel like I'm knocked back into my body and
I sit up straight, I can barely breathe. I have
a hard time like making my heart just calm and
to go back to normal. And my husband wakes up
and he remembers me just being absolutely horrified by what
(09:10):
I just went through. When I talk to people about
that experience, and like everything was normal in my room,
except it was really.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Dark and I couldn't turn the light on.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
They believe it was astral projection, and I had never
done that in my life. You are in a dream state,
or you think you are a bit, you actually leave
your body and you're able. I never looked back and
saw my own body, but I bet if I did,
I would have seen myself laying there. But it's the
belief that you can be in that dream state and
(09:51):
be walking around. It felt so real and it scared me,
and of course I didn't sleep that night. That's going
to be a common theme, is me losing sleep, me
losing what you need every single night to focus and
be functioning. My dreams got worse and worse. I'm a
(10:17):
very vivid dreamer. Usually they're just kind of chaotic. It's
not really anything there, but the dreams I would have,
it's very hard to explain, and it's almost embarrassing, how
bloody and just body parts, heads, everything laying around. And
(10:42):
it would only be in the apartment. I would be
in the apartment looking around and there was just gore,
just absolute terror in the house, strown about and it
didn't make any sense to me, you know, And I
would just wake up horrified once again, like what is
going on? That it would always be in the apartment.
(11:06):
Another night, I was having this stream that I'm in
my apartment and it's all dark, and it was kind
of like when maybe I was astral projecting in my
room when I woke up and saw the thing in
the doorway, But this time I'm walking around in my
living room because I think I hear something and it's
(11:28):
all dark and I'm walking towards my kitchen and I
see something in the corner of my eye, A shadow
run across the room and duck in a corner, like
in a dark corner behind my couch. I'm so tired
and fat up that I say hello, I saw you,
(11:54):
and I'm just mad right this thing crouching there, and
once again it runs at me, and I wake up again,
barely able to breathe.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Just the same feeling.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
One night, I woke up and I felt, you know,
like I was being watched like usual, but I can't
really move. It was more of a sleep paralysis, like
I just can't move. My eyes are open, but I'm
not moving. I see like a white light above me,
(12:32):
or kind of light shining down and I can't move,
and it didn't make any sense, and it's really a
small part of the story, but I've never forgotten it.
Then I just close my eyes and I'm able to
wake up, and it's gone. This keeps happening, but I
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can't tell you how much denial plays the part. Like
whenever people are like, why don't you just move, I'm
telling you your own mind is your own worst enemy.
Because you think it's you, it's you, Like you're going crazy,
things are gonna be fine. It's always like the next
night will be better, like you're just hoping for that
(13:15):
to happen. I have my Halloween decorations out at this time,
and I remember that very clearly because I love Halloween.
And after these experiences, it started to not be so
fun anymore. I didn't like seeing certain things because it
reminded me of this apartment. But in my head, I'm like,
(13:39):
it's gonna be fine. Let's go have a date night.
And we did, and we came back to my place
and we made a palette on the floor, and I
remember we were gonna watch Beetlejuice and just have this
great time.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
We start watching the.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Movie and I remember feeling so sick, sick to the core,
body aches, fever, my nose started bleeding, and all I
can remember is I'm going to have to call into work,
Like you have that immediate feeling that I need to
(14:17):
call in. Oh no, what am I going to do?
I'm just absolutely miserable all night. I pass out at
some point. I wake up.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
As soon as the sun is up. I'm fine, I'm
not sick.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And when I get a fever and I'm done right
and so it was really really crazy. Over time, I
start to not sleep. Of course, that's the biggest drawback
(14:56):
with all of this, besides just feeling so scared all
the time. I decide to break my lease and move out.
I do so, and I save my cat and he
comes with me to my husband's house because he has one,
(15:17):
and I get permission to move in with him and
everything for my parents. I let the apartment manager now,
I said.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's a great apartment, but this has been happening, this
kind of stuff. It's so hard to explain, you know,
to her, and she seemed pretty open. She was like,
oh my gosh, I had no idea, like she just
said she'd ask around. So I'm moving out and a
guy friend comes over because he's going to take my couch.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
This is in the middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
We're just I'm just talking about different things with him,
and we go into my bedroom, which is basically empty
except a couple of I'm giving away, and we're talking
and then two lights go out as we're talking. It's
from the ceiling fan and he and I don't even talk, like,
(16:15):
we don't say anything.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They go out.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He walks over and checks the light bulbs, and two
light bulbs had been twisted out at the same time.
They don't fall to the floor, they just go out.
So he goes over and twist them back in and
they turn on, and he goes He's very contrary, my buddy,
(16:39):
he goes just so you know, that happens again. I'm
running and I was like, I get it, I get it,
I get it. I'm just fed up, right because this
time it's in the middle of the day, it's not
even at night, and I just say, I'm obviously moving out.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I get it. You're mad, Like, I don't even know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But I found that every time in the dreams and
anything else, when I would engage with whatever was there,
it made it so much worse, or I was confronted
or something would happen. But the light bulb thing was
the last time I stepped foot in that place.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So I start.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Living with my husband and he is he's in a
great house. That was our first house together, and that's
where we had our baby and everything and great memories.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But when I moved there, I.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Was still having sleep paralysis, and I had never had
that before in my life, but it was horrifying. I
didn't see anything. I would just be stuck and I
would hear voices that were hard.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
To make out. I had to take sleeping pills. Even
though I was in a new.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
House, I always felt scared. I still had that feeling
of just not ever being able to calm down. And
like I said, I love Halloween. I couldn't even watch
scary movies anymore, especially not alone. I was always always
anxious to the core. I am living with him, and
(18:16):
I have a friend that actually blesses homes and stuff,
and I always thought it was interesting, but I didn't
really know much about it. I remember telling him that
I am still not okay, you know, I'm still scared
all the time. He came over and him and my
husband left to go somewhere. I don't remember, but I
(18:38):
was at the house and he did text me and
he said that a young man has followed you there
and he seems lost, but don't worry.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I took care of it or I sent him on
his way.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So maybe my friend was like dealing with that without
trying to freak me out.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Because of what I experienced at the apartment, if it
was like I became more vulnerable to other things, other spirits,
other whatever, seeing me more as a beacon.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I'm not really sure, but after that, I was still scared.
I still took pills, just go to sleep at night.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
There had been rumors when I was growing up in
that area there were kids on Halloween dragging around what
they thought was Halloween decorations, but it was a body
that had been decomposing.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's a very wooded area. It's like they just kept
you know, older trees a little further off. There's this
big highway. I mean, that's how I would get there.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
My friend had quite the few stories when she would
have to babysit for people.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That lived over there. They were and newer housing.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I don't know if it's the area, that's why
I'm bringing it up to you, but she would wake
up and see a man in a loincloth like he
was Native American, staring at her, and then he walked out,
and so she and I would always think, like, wow,
is there a burial ground out there? Because I mean,
(20:25):
all over Oklahoma, those are a lot of the stories
that the kids tell their family built on property when
they didn't know that there were burial mounds where princesses
are buried. I had been out of the apartment for
(20:46):
a while and I get a call from the old
apartment manager, and she was just trying to settle something
else with my lease. But she said, oh, I asked
around to people that have lived in those apartments since
they were built, said, I found out about where you
were living. She had talked to the man across the
hall from me. I never got to really meet any
(21:07):
of my neighbors or anything like that, but she talked
to this older man, and she said a woman had
lived there with her husband.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
The last people to live there. This woman got cancer.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Stage four, and her husband packed up and left her.
They would hear her, and I remember the walls were
buried thin, and they could hear her crying at night.
All the neighbors could hear her crying at night. Of course,
(21:42):
you can guess she passes away. She dies in the bedroom.
Everybody knows she had passed on right, and the apartment
gets cleared out. After that, All the neighbors would talk
about it. All the neighbors could still hear her crying
at night. When she told me that on the phone,
(22:07):
I immediately got goosebumps all down my arms because this
whole time, I'm the one that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm the one there's something wrong with me here. But
it all made sense.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
She said, I have a single woman living in there
right now. As long as she stays single, maybe nothing
will happen to her.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Because we put.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It together that I brought over my boyfriend my now husband,
and things started to really take a turn. When I
am moved out right, I bring back another guy friend
and then the light bulb thing happens in the middle
(22:52):
of the day. It seemed to be like some kind
of horrible, hateful energy left behind that did not want
men around, and I don't want to come off seeing
everything was like peachey king, because like I said, there
was a heavy feeling like I wasn't ever alone, but
it wasn't like what happened and what became physical later on.
(23:21):
I'm very lucky that I like found some sort of
answer to like maybe what was happening to me, because
I was in complete denial that it was on me.
After that, me and my husband get married, I find
out I'm pregnant, okay, and immediately I don't have sleep
(23:44):
paralysis anymore, and I'm able to sleep, I'm able to rest,
I'm able to have peace at night. Whenever I've talked
about it with other people or I've really thought about it,
what I believe in my heart is that my baby
like absolutely blessed me. And some people have told me like,
of course, babies are so protected.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I felt such a sense of peace.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Pregnancy makes you so uncomfortable in so many ways, but hey,
I was able to sleep and I got the rest
that I definitely needed. It stopped sleep, Prouse has stopped,
and being afraid stopped.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It was an incredible sense of peace that I felt.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
The Mayo Hotel in Tulsa, it's just beautiful, and me
and my husband stayed there a couple times. One sweet
we stayed in, I kept waking up and looking at
the doorway.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I mean I would just jolt out of my sleep.
Who's there?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You know, that kind of thing over and over, and
it was that feeling we weren't alone. Nothing else happened.
It was just that that heavy, heavy feeling, something's there,
something's watching. The only other time I felt that was
an angel fire New Mexico when my family went skiing,
we found a cabin up in the woods, and it
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was it was really a door like two story in
the room. My husband and I stayed in same thing.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I would jolt up, you know, sit up and look
like who's there?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And I'm telling you, We've stayed multiple places, so it's
not like I'm this way with every place.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And it was oho. Something was there.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
And I remember talking to my sister in the living
room and it's just a little thing, but I remember
her looking to my left and she did a double
take and I go what and she goes nothing.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I don't know. Something was going on there, and I
told her about that later. I didn't want to scare anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
But I was like, something is watching and something was
up in our room. During the time I was in
the apartment, I was kind of at a low point
in my life.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I think we all.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Have that kind of a bit of an existential crisis.
And it wasn't good health wise, everything, spiritually, why, you know,
spirituality wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So at night when these things would happen to me
and I.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Was so scared, I would say a prayer Joshua one nine,
pretty strong and end up good courage, do not be
afraid nor be dismayed because the Lord your God is
with you.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I would say that because when I was little, I
would say that, right.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
But I was not in a good place, like I said,
so I could say this first and maybe it makes
me feel a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But it wasn't genuine. I wasn't I wasn't being genuine
in my faith. And I think that really really form
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know, we're all different, but from my opinion, I
was not genuine in that type of prayer. And I
think I got stronger after this experience. With all that,
I think I was very vulnerable and whatever it was,
whatever she was right, that.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Was left behind. I think it feeds on that.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
It feeds on that negativity and that weakness, and I
just got weaker and weaker as I lost sleep and
lost my sense of self, and that my family saw
me change. I was just exhausted, and they believe me,
Like they're sweet people. They knew that I wasn't just
(27:45):
making something up. They knew it was weird and that
I didn't want it happening. I'm not trying to get
attention that feeling of being watched. I'm just glad I
can recognize it. And now I'm like, oh, I wasn't alone.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
That's what.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
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of Hailey's story was edited and sound designed by Sarah
Vorhez Wendel a VW Sound, with additional production by me
Edwin Kobar Rubiaz and the Scary ffteam. Thank you very
(28:29):
much for listening. Keep it scary everyone. Let see you soon.
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