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August 27, 2025 30 mins
It began with knocks and shadow figures in a military barracks, but it didn’t end there. From a grandmother who uncovered buried witchcraft, to children who see figures in the night, to generations plagued by footsteps, scratches, and red-eyed apparitions, this family seems forever bound to something dark. Was it passed down like an inheritance, or was it unleashed long ago?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
His eyes were red, they were glowing red. Right laid
there in such shock. This thing was staring straight into
my soul.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
With what was thought to be just an isolated scare,
we realized that the haunting was in the bloodline, a
family curse that seemed the tournament to follow them wherever
they went. My name is Edwin, and here is Gabriel
and Lina's true scary story.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Ever since I was a kid, I always wanted to
join the military. I was a kid that would watch
war movies and read the World War Two history books,
all that my grandfather was a chief foreign officer in
an army. Fast forward to January twenty twenty twelve, I
ship out to Fort Seal.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Fort Seal is located in Lawton, Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Lawton apparently already has hauntings as it is at the time,
it was Comanche Land. You can imagine there was bloodshed,
there was sacred burial grounds, all that stuff. So, for
all we know, we were marching on that. In the army,
they have this wonderful thing called fireguard. You're up for

(01:29):
about two hours in the middle of the night. Sometimes
you get lucky, you don't get it. Sometimes you're unlucky
for me that day. It was the unlucky two to
four am shift, Me and my buddy. You're in charge
of forty to fifty dudes. You have to make sure
everybody's in bed, every weapon is secured. If you got

(01:50):
to go to the restroom, then you gotta go, let
the fireguard know. Whenever you're done, you come back, go
back to bed, all that stuff, and then you got
to make sure everybody's accounted for, because if not, the
drill sergeant will come in and if any of your
numbers are wrong, he's going to smoke you. Smoking is
just physical fitness correction, like they say. So it's about

(02:14):
three o'clock of all times, I'm sitting there, riding home
to my mom, swapping stores on my buddy. We're checking
everybody's in bed, all's quiet. Three fifteen comes around and
I hear like three little taps on the door leading
to the outside stairs. Nobody should be out there. If

(02:39):
the drill sergeant needs to come in, he just opens
the door, turns there's an alarm, so he.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Kills the alarm, opens the door with a key.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
There's no no reason for anybody to be outside. Look
at my buddy, I'm like, you heard that, right, bro,
and he's like, yeah, brother, I heard it. So I
go to the door and a drill sergeant.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Drill startan nothing. So I turn around and start walking
towards the desk, and it's just bang, bang bang right
behind my head. Both of us our eyes are white.
I'm like, oh, my bad. Drill starts. I turn around.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I popped that door open. The alarm just starts blaring.
The lights were flashing. I look out. There's nothing there,
not a single soul inside, just the darkness of the
staircase leading down. My buddy and I are looking at
each other. They're like, dude, we're gonna get all these

(03:37):
dudes smoke. We're gonna be in so much trouble with
drill Starten comes up. He's like, why is this door open? Like,
drill Start, I swear I heard you knocking. I heard
you tap three times. He looked at me. His eyes
were huge, like you could tell he had like a
moment of realization, and his face kind of went white.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
He knew I wasn't joking. I wasn't lying. Maybe he
heard about it before, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
He looks at me and I'm like, here, comes, I'm
either gonna get kicked out of the military or something.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
So I did something stupid. He looks at me.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
He says, keep this fing door close, Private, go back
to f and sleep, and just left us.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
There's no way I just got away with that. There's
no way.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
But like I said, I think he had this realization
of maybe there was something going on that he had seen.
Like I said, Lawton's plenty haunted. Thirty minutes later, you know,
I'm doing my rounds, making sure everybody's in bed. I
got the count, weapons are counted for. All the guys
are asleep in bed where they should be. I'm walking

(04:47):
towards the back of the bay. There's about fifty beds.
You know, you got four rows of beds. I'm walking
towards the back of the bay. The light from the
fireguard desk doesn't really go all the way back there,
so I have, you know, my little flashlight. I'm looking
around and have the red lens to keep your night
vision good. I look up and I just I see

(05:08):
this figure that's darker than the darkness around him.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
I just checked.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Everybody's asleep. You know, everybody's accounted for it. Nobody should
be out of bed. So I raised that light up
and it's just gone. The person was gone. I didn't
know what to think or say. I don't know if
me opening the door let something in, I don't know,

(05:36):
but it definitely was a life changing experience because I
had always tried to be the skeptic. I always, even
to this day, I try to find ways to explain things.
But my buddy next to me that was on fire
guard with me, he definitely saw it, and to this
day I wonder if I can get in touch with
him and he'll definitely remember it. I think both of
us tried to play it off like Okay, that didn't happen.

(06:00):
You know what's crazy, man, I'm looking at this writer post.
It says fifty people in our platoon. It sounds just
like mine. Had fireguard to to a shift. I was
walking towards the little closet of LA train, which is
a restroom, and as I approached in the closet turned on.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
It was activated by a switch, not motion.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
This guy has the exact same story as I do
of something was walking towards the back. Maybe it was
the barracks that I opened up. My bat mine was
in twenty twelve and he just posted it and they
said it was twenty seventeen. The fact that they're still
seeing shadow figures over there after what I saw is
pretty crazy. Now that I'm married to my wife, she's

(06:37):
got a bunch of wonderful history when it comes to
the paranormal. Really, mine was just kind of like an
appetizer because Lena's stories, I'm telling you, manter hers are
way better than mine.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
I can say that.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I grew up in the nineties sent Antonio, for the
most part, lived a normal life, mom, dad, younger brother.
I was around eight years old when I started noticing
weird things happening around the room during the night. The

(07:10):
hallway that we had was very long hallway. I was
always afraid to walk down that hallway, just because as
a kid, you see it as something's going to jump
out and grab me. So looking down when I would
go to my room, i'd just run really fast and
lock myself in the room, just hoping that something wasn't

(07:32):
following me. So it was towards the middle of the
night when I started noticing footsteps and I thought, well,
this house is a little old, so maybe it's just
a creaking noise. But you know, anything that you hear
as a child is going to scare you. And then

(07:55):
the footsteps started to happen more frequently. It was an
ongoing and I've always had issues with sleeping at night.
From footsteps, it went to scratching on the doors very lightly.
It started faint, and then it would get a little louder,
and then I would notice some scratching along the hallway.

(08:19):
I didn't think it was my brother because he was
a lot younger than me at the time. So as
those things started happening, I would listen to the conversations
my mom would have on the phone with my grandma.
Eight year old me wondered, is she going through the

(08:40):
same thing. She really don't want to tell me the
whole story, considering that I was still a kid, you know,
she didn't want to scare me even more, but she
would just mention that my grandma would see things. She
would also hear knocking on windows in the middle of
the night, footsteps as well. My aunt, who was also

(09:01):
pretty young at the time, would mention she would see
little people running across the room. She would see a
man walk in the hallways full form, not even a
shadow person, but just a man. I remember one of

(09:21):
my cousins saying every night, at around three am, she
would hear chains outside the window, big heavy chains, and
when she looked, there was what looked to be like
a demon walking staring right at her. One of the

(09:45):
things that my grandma would tell my mom was, there's
a clown that keeps popping up on the ceiling, just
poking its head out from the ceiling. As I'm resting,
I would look up and this clown head would just
pop out from the ceiling. I didn't know what to do.
I just, you know, would put my hands in my

(10:06):
face and just pray. So me as a kid, I
you know, would kind of listen in the corner because
I knew that my mom didn't want me listening to that.
At eight years old, I would think, you know, did
they transfer over to me? Because at the time we
lived right next door to each other, and so that

(10:30):
has always stayed in the back of my mind as
to what was going on at her house. My mom
and I would always visit my grandma. Back then we
had the phones where you know, the cords and stuff,

(10:51):
and I said, you know what, I'm going to call
my house knowing nobody was there. I grabbed my grandma's
phone to call our house. Asked me why I did it.
I don't know, but I called my house phone and
I didn't obviously think that anything was going to happen.
That was just going to ring and I was going
to leave a silly little boy small But somebody answered

(11:13):
and said and it hung up, and I threw the
phone and I told my mom somebody's at our house
because they answered the phone, and she says, no, no.

(11:35):
There was a night I was trying to go to sleep.
I felt the bed shaking. It was kind of pushing
on my mattress, shaking me, and I thought it was
my brother, because you know sometimes he would play around
and try and scare me. I looked over the bed

(11:57):
and I didn't see anybody there. Nobody looked under the bed. Nothing.
I said, okay, well let me ignore it, let me
go to sleep. The next thing I knew, it was
shaking really hard. Before I knew it, my bed was
off the floor and it was levitating. My body ran cold.

(12:21):
I didn't know how to react, how this was happening,
and then it just fell. I was in a state
of shock to where I didn't even tell my mom.
Most of the things that happened, I didn't tell her
because I figured, you know, like would she believe me,
would she think I'm crazy? So I kept it to myself.

(12:46):
Most of the things that happened, I kept to myself. Now,
I always sleep with my door closed. Is because I
would always see the shadow people walk by my room
as a kid, I just didn't want anybody coming into
my room if they were outside, you know, there's no

(13:07):
way they could come and get me. But I would
still hear the scratches and the tappings on the door.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
If you dig into shadow people, apparently whenever you speak
about them that you give them power and for them
to pop up more.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
She had gone to like a friend's thing, and she
was telling that story.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
That same night, it was I don't know two three
in the morning. I woke up and I saw something
sitting in our bed, and I thought it was her
again like I experienced basic training. It was a It
was darker than the darkness around it. I saw its
ears were almost pointed in a way like a lf ear's.

(13:53):
I thought it was her, so I kind of just
grabbed at it. After that, I don't remember what happened.
I just went back to sleep.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Thankfully, I work overnight, so most of the time he's
home alone. And he even mentioned too, like what time
did you come in? I said, I just got here,
not too long ago. He says, But I hugged you.
I said, that wasn't me. Going back to childhood. Two

(14:29):
years later, my dad passed in a tragic accident. As
a family, you know, it was something that we didn't
know how to handle. He was the protector in our home.

(14:51):
We were so close with him. Anytime that I would
be afraid at night, I knew that I could run
to the room, run into my dad's arms, and I
would be safe. But since we didn't have that anymore,
it just felt so empty. Time goes on, and my

(15:18):
mom and I learned how to manage on our own.
Her being a single mom. She would cook for us
every night and you know, just try to make things
around the house a little more peaceful. Anytime she would cook,
I would fall asleep before the food was even ready.

(15:43):
This one particular night, she was making pork chops, which
was one of my favorite meals. I said, Mom, please,
if I happened to fall asleep, wake me up, she said, okay.
Next thing I knew. It was in the middle of
the night. All the lights were off, the after smell

(16:05):
of the cooking. Once it was done, I still smelled
that in the air. We had this really big window
in the living room and it was one of the
prettiest windows. You know. You could see the view, You
just see everything looking out in the middle of the night,
you could see the glare of the moon. The moon

(16:26):
was just shining right that night. Then I was laying
on the couch just admiring it as a kid. Then
I started to feel something behind me. We had a
long couch. Right next to the couch was a spinning chair.

(16:48):
I look and there's a man dressed in all white.
He's glowing eyes were red. They were glowing red. Right
laid there in such shock. This thing was staring straight

(17:13):
into my soul. I wanted to jump over the couch
and run to the room, but I also didn't want
to run right past it, because I was thinking, what
is it going to do if I run past it?
Is it going to take me? Is am I going
to get possessed? Like what's going on? I always figured

(17:36):
these shadows, the ones that I had seen when I
was younger, were always, you know, just your typical shadow figures,
but this one was in white. A lot of people say, oh,
it was your dad, Well no, because I did feel
evil they did have red eyes. Just ran past it,

(18:02):
ran to my mom's room, and I never forgot about it,
and I could still to this day see that picture
in my head of the man in white with red eyes.

(18:22):
I remember also during the times that I would spend
with my friends, we brought out the Widgi board. Not
knowing anything about it back then, I didn't see the
harm in it or that it could really do anything.
But what I was told by my friends, you know,
growing up in the early two thousands, was oh, you

(18:45):
could speak to dead people. Let's see who we can
talk to. The planchet would move as we would ask
it questions, but I always thought it was their hands
moving mine, making up stories, until later on I noticed

(19:07):
that more things started to happen. Back in twenty fourteen,
I married my husband. We lived in a town home.

(19:31):
That's when I started to notice movements, whether it be
the doors, scratching on the walls, and then footsteps. And
this town home was two stories and I was always
downstairs watching TV during the day because he was at work,

(19:51):
and I would just hear footsteps, you know, it would
get scared because I was alone, and I would call
him and say, hey, I think somebody's in the house,
and he would just tell me there's nobody there. Trying
to debunk something and oh, you're just hearing things, or
it's old. It's an old place. Of course it's going
to creek.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I tried to be the protector and try and debunk
it as best as I could, just trying to now, Obabe,
you're fine, you're fine. Maybe it's the neighbors. Maybe you know,
it's an it was an apartment town home. Maybe it's
the neighbors running across. Until one particular night, I was
working in the in the evening. She calls me and

(20:34):
there was the balcony door. She's like, honey, the balcony
door is open, and like we came home and it
was wide open, like there's no way, so, you know,
I rush home and sure enough it was open. She
didn't go inside. Whenever she pulled up, she could see
the door was open. That's whenever I went and I checked,
you know, I cleared the apartment.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
There was nothing there.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
That's really whenever I started becoming a believer when it
comes to her dealing with this stuff. I can remember
one particular night, I think she was working her nursing job.
I was sitting there, it was just me by myself,
and we have one of those five gallon water dispensers,
and I always left my work cap on it.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
So I'm sitting there watching YouTube or whatever, and my
cap just flies off. It wasn't a breeze, it wasn't
anything like that. My cap literally flies off at least
eight feet to the right.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I look at it dumbfounded, and again me being a skeptic,
I'm like, hey, if you're a real ghost, through it again.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
That was a mistake.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
We had a little doggy door that swings open back
and forth. You know, to close it keep your babies out.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Of the kitchen. It's not a light gate.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
You got to give it a little force to close it,
and it makes a little pop noise. After I said
if you're a real ghost, do it again, this gate
just slammed. I was like, Okay, now I'm definitely a believer.
That's what definitely made me start rethinking it's not in

(22:15):
her head anything like that.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
From marriage twenty fifteen. That's when we had our first son.
For the most part, everything was normal, you know, getting
used to the parenting life, kind of adjusting as he
got older. Started around one he would say, my mo,

(22:42):
there's froggies dancing in the in the window. Do you
see them? I said, no, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Where?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
He's like, look right there, they're dancing. I said no,
but you know, hopefully I can see them. And I thought, okay,
maybe it's just a one time thing. But for the
next several weeks he would say, Mama, look there's the frogs. Again.
There's a frogs And I didn't see anything. Where is

(23:17):
this coming from? About three years later, he was four,
because he started school in our room. You know, we
always had the door open. I had this huge mirror,

(23:38):
you know, that reflected where the stairs were. So that
was one thing that I was always afraid of, was
I was going to see something in the mirror. I
have before shadow figures walking at night, and I would
look and see faces in the corner darkness. I would

(24:01):
do my best not to pay attention to it. But
in the morning, I was getting my son ready for school,
and he says, Hey, Mama, who is that lady looking
at you? In the middle of the night, I went
to the restroom and I walked past your room and
there was a lady standing over you, watching you sleep.

(24:24):
I thought maybe he was just dreaming. You know, he'll
forget about it after school and you know, everything will
be fine. Went to go pick him up from school,
and he said, so, Mama, who is that lady? Every
now and then I would hear someone talking, whispering but

(24:47):
actually calling my name and just mumbling things. I really
couldn't ever understand what they were saying, but I heard whispering.
You know. I would get ready for work and I
would my name being whispered, and I look and I
thought it was my husband. But I turned and I
even opened my restroom door, and nobody was there. The

(25:14):
things that my mom and my grandma would always talk
about when we would go to her house are the
things that she heard. So at an older age, you know,
I was more curious, like, hey, Mom, so what really
happened with grandma? Liked was she really seeing these things?
There was a moment where she showed a picture and

(25:36):
in this picture, it was at a family function, and
the picture was of my aunt. They were standing in
front of a TV and it was one of those
old time TVs, you know, back in the two thousands.
The screen was bold, but the lights were off. The
only thing shining was kind of like the kitchen light

(26:01):
reflecting where everyone else was. But in the TV was
a group of people staring straight at the camera. But
there was nowhere around where these people would be, nor
could we recognize who they were. So this picture was

(26:21):
passed around shown like who were these people? How did
they end up in there? If the TV was off?
But let me tell you what actually happened. One day,
my grandma was doing her gardening in the backyard. She

(26:45):
said she found voodoo like voodoo doll stuff that happens
when they do witchcraft, that was buried in the ground
in her backyard. Right away, she threw it away and
ever since then she never had anything bad happen in

(27:09):
her house again. So what I'm thinking is whatever was
going on at her house, you know, in the early
two thousands, was also transferring to our house, and I
was experiencing those things. I think that my grandma was

(27:36):
so terrified of everything that she was experiencing in her
life in the years, because it would happen to her
every single day. And not only did it happen to her,
but it happened to my aunt, who was a teenager
at the time. My grandma wanted nothing to do with it.

(27:57):
She didn't want to talk about it. She just wanted
to forget. My aunt would mention that she would see
the same clown that my grandma would see when she
would be passing the wounds, walking down the hall in
the corner of just the face in the darkness. Did

(28:18):
it circle all around us? Is it something within the family.
It's just the unexplained that so many things happened to.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Us.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I don't think it ever left me even now. At work,
I noticed things, you know, I'm a nurse at a
correctional facility. Either it follows me or it's just you know,
paranormal things, you know, seeing those shadow figures passed by,

(28:57):
or our medication jowers would just fly open and then
shut clothes, or when I would walk past the facility,
I saw a face staring right at me. Where there
it was a cell that no one should have been
in there. Most of the time, these things happened when
I'm by myself, you know.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
From the outside looking in to her family. I don't
know if it's some kind of curse. Unfortunately, her cousin
lost her dad and my wife lost her dad also,
and they were brothers. I don't know if something was
attached to that thing that their grandma found and for
some reason it went after the dad's It makes you

(29:41):
wonder what's actually going on that we don't know about.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
All we do is just pray and pray and as
Jesus for protection.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
It hasn't left, and I don't think it'll ever leave.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Thank you so much, Gabriel and Lena for sharing your
experiences with us. Editing in sound design was done by
Sarah Vorhez Wendel a VW sound Additional production by me
Edwin Kovarubias and the Scary FM team. If you're following
the show, we'll be back next week with another story.
Thank you very much for listening. Keep it Scary everyone,

(30:23):
See you soon.
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