October 25, 2023 • 18 mins
On today’s podcast I have 'Victoria Montano' who is proving to be quite popular with the rebooted 'Real Housewives of Sydney' fans.
The first three episodes are out and I have to say I have my favourites already. As I am sure viewers have too. It is kind of the nature of the show… right?
However, I think 'Montano' has had some great one liners in her pieces to camera and I am living for the fact that during this interview she gave me a T-Shirt that says - it is bad manners to not botox your face… which I have given to my partner… as I clearly have bad manners!
'Victoria' is really good mates with 'Nicole' and 'Krissy' and their friendship really shows on camera…. Which I think is apart of the success of the new series.
- We will talk about the women’s behaviour and if after nearly 20 years Housewives still reflects the social norms amongst real friendships.
- We will unpack why there hasn’t been a gay man in the franchise and what Victoria thinks will be the biggest hurdle there.
- We will find out there is no reunion episode again this season and Victoria will explain if she would actually consider returning.
Plus we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of ‘The Real Housewives of Sydney.’ Which you can catch up on - on ‘Binge’ or keep watching each week on Foxtel.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast past week that Welcome back guys
to TV Reload. As you may know, my name is
Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get all
the inside goss on the popular TV shows that you
might be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our TV
sets are still a major part of our home entertainment,
and yet very little is known about how our favorite
(00:22):
shows get made. So each episode I've been finding those
guests the want to dive just that little bit deeper
into the shows they are currently making so that you
can hear all their exclusive stories and gain access to
the biggest names in Australian television. I want to thank
you for downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you've
found me. I personally love hearing your feedback, so if
you can leave a review or a comment on your
(00:44):
chosen podcast platform. On today's podcast, I have Victoria Montano,
who is proving to be quite popular on the reboot
of Real Housewives of Sydney. The first three episodes are
out and I have to say I have my favorites,
as I'm sure all of you do too. It is
kind of the nature I guess of the Housewives franchise. However,
(01:05):
I think Victoria has had some very good one liners
and her pieces to camera, and I'm living for the
fact that during this interview she gave me a T
shirt that says it's bad manners not to botox your face,
which I have given to my partner as clearly I
have bad manners. Victoria is really good mates with Nicole
and Chrissy, and their friendship really shows on camera, which
(01:26):
I think is a part of the success of this
new series. We will talk about the women's behavior and
if after nearly twenty years of Housewives, the women on
these shows still reflect the social norms amongst real friendships.
We will unpack why there hasn't been a gay man
in the franchise and what Victoria thinks would be the
biggest hurdle when it comes to that. We will find
(01:48):
out along the way that there is no reunion episode
again I don't know why, and Victoria will explain if
she would actually consider coming back. Plus, we will get
plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of the Real
Housewives of Sydney, which you can now catch up on
on Binge or you can keep watching each week on
foxtelp Anyway, guys, let's bring Victoria into the podcast. And guys,
(02:10):
I really hope you enjoy this sit down chat that
I have with Victoria. I'm pretty sure it's going to
leave you still desperate, or even more desperate, I should
say to watch The Real Housewives of Sydney. Hello, Hi, okay,
so we're gonna have to do this very quickly. I'm
here live in the flesh at the Melbourne launch of
the Real Housewives of Sydney. So welcome to the Housewives.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
What sort of a process happens to get you on
a show like this? I think everyone has ever thought
about being a Housewives wonders. Do you audition? Do they
come for you? Just just one of the housewives that's already
been selected recommend you. I want to know.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I've spent the last six years my life being bullied
by Nicole O'Neill to come on the show.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And what did she say? Did she say it was
going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, she just said it would be a lot of fun.
You'd be perfect for Housewives, you know, and season especially
she was very keen on I guess having characters that,
you know, we had deep rooted friendships, and Nicole and
I and Chrissy and Terry have known each other for,
you know, a long long time.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Is this what you kind of thought it would be
like to be on the Real Housewives or has it
surprised you.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I don't think it has surprised me. I think it's
it is like what I expected. I think I wasn't shocked.
Nothing shocked me as such. But you know, at the
end of the day, like with everything, you have the
highest of the highs and the lowest of the lows,
and I think we certainly had that. You know, you'll
see it play out on screen, but we really felt
(03:41):
all those things in real life too.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So I think this is what's so strange. You know,
we always say to people, now, reality TV only works
if you're being authentic, and so of course you need
to be authentic. But I want to know, were you
frightened about saying yes to this show because the first
season of Sydney hadn't been received so well by the fans.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Honestly, that was one of my driving factors and saying
yes to doing the show. And I don't think it
is because the first rendition of Housewives of Sydney was
necessarily bad. I don't have those feelings. I know some
people do. I really wanted to represent my city. I
love Sydney, so yeah, I mean it was important to
me to do Sydney proud. I had to be authentic
(04:24):
because you cannot maintain a character for four months of filming,
like you cannot do it. So I was very mindful
of being myself, and I think the times when I
wasn't myself because it was too.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Hard, it was too confronting. I was nervous. I think
you can tell. I think you can tell.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Even in episode two there's a statement that I said,
and the first time I said it, the producer had said, no,
it needs to be stronger. So we'd gone to like
the third or fourth time of saying this statement, and
I watched it and I was cringing because I was like, wow,
like I did say that, but it was the fourth
time and it's lost my voice.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I've always wanted to know, like how quickly do they
do those pieces to camera? Like do you film the
whole series and then have to go back? Do they
show you some footage so you kind of know what
you're talking about. I've always wanted to know how those
pieces to cameras are put together.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Basically every every second event. So if you look at
the show as its highlight points being events, so Terry's lunch,
Nicoles dinner, the party that Caroline threw for Kate, So
every second big event, we would sit down and you're
(05:39):
filming from anywhere between four and six hours. Wow, two
camera down the barrel, question after question after question. The
only way to get through that is with Coke zero
and snakes. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think Chenna Roach once said to me that she
likes to have a champagne while she does the pieces
to camera and also so gets the crew to have
a champagne to make the whole thing a little bit easier.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Okay, So there was so much drinking going on during
that filming period that when I was doing my one
on ones, I was trying not to drink because we
had so many parties and events and things that we
were filming at. So no, I was definitely not that person.
With my one on ones, I was snakes, Coke zero,
a few fantails.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That was my thing.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You're quite funny in this series, though, and you're kind
of the comic relief in a lot of those pieces
to cameras. So well done to that, But is that
who you are in real life? Is that who you
are with your friends? Is that how your husband sees you?
Are you normally the comedy queen?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Genuinely since inquiring with my friends, apparently I have always
been funny. I actually had a little bit of a
fight with my husband when we're halfway through filming because
the producers kept saying, You're.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So funny, You're so funny, and I was like what.
And I went home and I was like, you never
laugh at my jokes. You don't think I'm funny. That's
missing in our relationship. And he's like, I don't think
you're that funny.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The same thing happens to me. Actually, I would say
that I'm the funnier person in my friendship circle and
they'd probably agree. But my partner he, I don't think
he's laughed at anything that I've said in maybe the
last fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Look ultimately like, I'm not a trained comedian at all,
as you know, you guys would know, So you can't
say something funny all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
It has to be organic.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So it's not like I'm saying funny things the whole time,
like it's impossible for.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Me to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
But I do have a really dry sense of humor,
and I just, I guess I leant into it because
you know, I wasn't as strong a character as some
of the other girls. I don't mean on the show,
I mean in genuine personality, like Chrissy for example, who's
my dear friend, Like her personality is so strong. I'm
not a wallflower, but I'm not like I'm not going
(07:53):
to be the first one to stand up and toast
someone at a party or you know, that's very Chrissy
for example, just to use her as an obvious example.
So I guess the only thing that I had that
I could lean into that I was really comfortable with
was my dry sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I think it's very interesting that you say that, because
I don't actually think that the loudest person in the
room is who people like on these shows. I actually
think that what works is someone who sits back and
thinks about what's being said, and you know, maybe takes
their time and says it in their piece to camera.
And I also wonder with some of those louder people
on these shows. Is that how they were the whole time?
(08:32):
And like, is that quiet version of you how it
was when you guys were filming, or is that kind
of been stylized and put together in a different way.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I would definitely come off set all the time, flustered
and sometimes embarrassed, thinking why the hell have they cast me?
Like I can't I can't just jump in and say
my opinion, like sometimes because I'm reserved, and sometimes because.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I did not have an opinion on what they were
to talking about.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You know, like the model conversation was a really obvious one,
you know that I can bring up because you guys
have seen it, so it's not a spoiler alert. Like
I could argue in my head both ways. And I
was like a pretty serious debater at school. And how
I often make a decision if I'm going to speak up,
is I'm like, how strong and I.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Can just go through Okay, diversity, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But then all of a sudden and I was like,
I'm not fucking getting involved in this because if I
don't say diversity, I'm going to get my head totally
bitten off. And I'm not saying that I don't like diversity.
I love diversity, But I can see the other side
of the argument too, which is essentially they're trying to
sell clothes, right, so they want the crowd, the viewer
(09:44):
to be able to identify with the person coming. So
I'm all for diversity and that yes, have a beautiful
woman of Indian cultural descent of average, absolutely, but chucking
a pregnant woman. Now, you're not even trying to sell
the clothes to pregnant women, and like, that doesn't make sense.
That what's going through my head so is out is
(10:05):
that yes, busted? Thinking that I was failing because I
was quieter than the rest.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
What do you think about this? This show is very
popular and is really well known for its conflict. Do
you think that's a true reflection on how women behave
or do you think that this show in some ways
glorifies bad behavior amongst women.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
This is a really tricky question because it's part of
the formula.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
In your own group of friends, you were just mentioning
outside before that you wouldn't call out someone for their behavior. However,
in this show, it is kind of a part of
the job.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And that's what's different. So, and I hope I don't
get in trouble. I was saying all this, your job.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Is often to speak up on something that is your truth. Yes,
so you can't just lie about something. But you know,
maybe ordinarily, if you said to me, do you like
Apple Watches, I just say yes, I do, fine, I
don't like Apple Watches.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Hate the show. I've got to say, I fucking hate
your Apple Watch.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So that's the difference where I think they got the
formula right this time. Was casting me Nicole, Terry and
Chrissy and Sally because we had really known each other.
Sally had known Terry for sixteen years, you know. So
when something happens between us on the show, which is
(11:28):
all to come for your listeners at home, the pain
is real when I'm sad, when you get to that
point in the show, like I was crying on camera,
but I wasn't just crying on camera. I was crying
at home with my mom, with my husband, in front
of my kids, with my brother, with my sister, because
(11:50):
it was really hurting me. It wasn't just a staged
TV moment because that person in that moment that had
hurt me meant a lot to me. So when you
feel hurt by them. Your emotions, you know, are recited.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And that is what is really interesting to me at
the moment because you mentioned your family. And what I
find really hard about these shows is that everything becomes
fair game. You know, when you're putting yourself on there
and your family and your friends, everyone is up for conversation.
Paris Hilton just recently posted a photo of her child
and it was so horrific to see the comments that
(12:28):
was being made. Are you worried or did you have
conversations with your friends about how involved they may need
to be seeing as you've signed up to a reality
show like this look.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
With my kids.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Certainly it was, and they don't feature a lot on
the show. And even when they asked me to talk
about my kids, I got nervous and I brushed it
off by saying.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But all moms love their kids. That's boring. And what
I was really trying.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
To do was, like in a weird TV off the cuff,
I was caught out moment for them because what I
didn't share was going to be protected, you know what
I mean. So I was really conscious of that with
my kids. And then in the same breadth, you are
obsessed with your kids and proud of them, so you
want them to be on the show. So it was
this awful conflicting emotion that you had about my kids.
(13:20):
When it came to my mum, who will make an
appearance on the show, I felt different because you know,
she's over the age of sixty, she's a big girl.
We're best friends.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I always say, don't read the comment section, nor should
anyone ever write back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
She doesn't really know how to get online and respond
to the comments, but we can screen grab some and
we'll bring her back onto the podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know, Housewives has been around for nearly twenty years,
like Orange County is the longest one, and I think
that they're soon to be coming up to around that
kind of a milestone because it started so long ago.
Do you think that the nature of the way we're
presenting women hanging out still flex or has updated itself
to the way in which women now hang out? You know,
(14:04):
in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think we've done a better job of reflecting how
women truly hang out in this series. That being said,
there's no business like show business. It's entertainment. So it's
this really complicated mix of reality TV that you guys
want to watch. So if you really followed me, Nick
and Chrissy around, you certainly don't have our hair and
(14:28):
makeup done. And we don't always meet at a restaurant,
you know. Sometimes we just go for a walk. They
do film a few walks, but you can't film us
walking every single episode. So I think there is an
element of capturing how women truly hang out. But we've
got to remember that it's a TV show at the end.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Of the day.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
What about amongst most of my female friendship groups, there's
usually a gay man in there. Do you think it's
about time actual franchise has a gay person on the
show Lovely Game.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Last week, I was at a beautiful lunch for Camilla
with Love and Leading Hotels the world, and I was
sitting next to a guy I know who's gay, and
I said, you should be on Housewives.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
He's got two kids, beautiful husband.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
But he responded, what you said before, I want to
protect my children. Sure, So I mean, I think bringing
a gay guy onto the show, especially one that had kids, I.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Think for that reason, that's why it would be fascinating.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, but that is opening up a can of worms
to people to attack them, like, you know, so it
would have to be someone really.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Fucking strong, really fucking strong. And I think that there
are a lot of queer men out there that could
handle this. And I think those queer men that are
having children. I mean I saw on Facebook last week
two different same sex male attracted couples doing gender reveals
on their Facebook. So men are now, you know, having
families like this. It's a big conversation that could be
(15:56):
had on a show like this.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I think everyone no one cares if anyone's gay anymore,
no one cares if anyone gets married, but I think
there's still a few people that care if they have kids.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Would you say no, I think you're right. I think
you're right.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
The last frontier the gay man to speak to help.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I think it'll come down to a housewife standing up
for it, to be honest with you, I genuinely do,
because I've spoken to franchises around the world and so
far there is a lot of discussions and there has
been a few franchises that have come close. Really, but
it is about a housewife saying this is my friend
and I want them on the show. And I think
when you're as liked as you are, which we've just
started to see over the first two episodes. Maybe it's
(16:32):
your places.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And I am happy to champion that campaign. It would
be my honor.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I just need to decide who the fuck are you
going to kick off?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, not to tease anything, but think about it. We've
all heard that there's still a rift that's happening between
all of you wants the show finishes. We've been told
there's no reunion. Who who's most.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Likely to not come I But I will tell you
from my perspective that you know, for me coming back,
which I would love to do, it really is dependent
upon how many of my good girlfriends who came on
this show with me are coming back to because at
the end of the day, we're here to have fun.
We're not here to fight. Occasionally, we do have to
(17:14):
have a little fight because that's human nature, and that's
a that's the show. But big riffs and big divisions,
they're not my thing. And we'll figure out, you know,
I'll get to the bottom of who we're kicking off.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Just you wait and see.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The last question I ask everyone is something that everyone gets.
This is episode two hundred and forty five. Of the podcast,
So thank you for being here. What is something from
behind the scenes, something we won't see, kind of like
a behind the scenes secret of the show. And this
doesn't have to peel back, you know, the curtain too far.
But I mean something the.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Most obvious one.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It's not funny, but we filmed in May, in Sydney,
and everyone thinks of Sydney as this like beacon of
the most sunny sunshine place in the world. The average
temperature in May in Sydney was eight fucking degree, so
we were some of these nights were the worst nights
(18:06):
of my life in that We're trying to dress sexy,
dress in these beautiful designer clothes and shivering. So sometimes
I would get off, you know, from filming, and I'd
be like blue jaw, like shaking. So I mean, I
don't know if you can tell how cold we are?
Can you tell how cold we are?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
We look pretty cold on that boat, I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Could you tell that that was the hardest night of
my life? Like I know that there's people that have
real problems, but that was a really hard night.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Ask any actors. Actors always have a big coat on
the side. Can I just say you are very fantastic
in the show, and thank you for being so generous
talking with me today, and I look forward to maybe
talking to you for the series three.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I think you'll survive.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Thank you.
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast past week that Welcome back guys
to TV Reload. As you may know, my name is
Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get all
the inside goss on the popular TV shows that you
might be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our TV
sets are still a major part of our home entertainment,
and yet very little is known about how our favorite
(00:22):
shows get made. So each episode I've been finding those
guests the want to dive just that little bit deeper
into the shows they are currently making so that you
can hear all their exclusive stories and gain access to
the biggest names in Australian television. I want to thank
you for downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you've
found me. I personally love hearing your feedback, so if
you can leave a review or a comment on your
(00:44):
chosen podcast platform. On today's podcast, I have Victoria Montano,
who is proving to be quite popular on the reboot
of Real Housewives of Sydney. The first three episodes are
out and I have to say I have my favorites,
as I'm sure all of you do too. It is
kind of the nature I guess of the Housewives franchise. However,
(01:05):
I think Victoria has had some very good one liners
and her pieces to camera, and I'm living for the
fact that during this interview she gave me a T
shirt that says it's bad manners not to botox your face,
which I have given to my partner as clearly I
have bad manners. Victoria is really good mates with Nicole
and Chrissy, and their friendship really shows on camera, which
(01:26):
I think is a part of the success of this
new series. We will talk about the women's behavior and
if after nearly twenty years of Housewives, the women on
these shows still reflect the social norms amongst real friendships.
We will unpack why there hasn't been a gay man
in the franchise and what Victoria thinks would be the
biggest hurdle when it comes to that. We will find
(01:48):
out along the way that there is no reunion episode
again I don't know why, and Victoria will explain if
she would actually consider coming back. Plus, we will get
plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of the Real
Housewives of Sydney, which you can now catch up on
on Binge or you can keep watching each week on
foxtelp Anyway, guys, let's bring Victoria into the podcast. And guys,
(02:10):
I really hope you enjoy this sit down chat that
I have with Victoria. I'm pretty sure it's going to
leave you still desperate, or even more desperate, I should
say to watch The Real Housewives of Sydney. Hello, Hi, okay,
so we're gonna have to do this very quickly. I'm
here live in the flesh at the Melbourne launch of
the Real Housewives of Sydney. So welcome to the Housewives.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
What sort of a process happens to get you on
a show like this? I think everyone has ever thought
about being a Housewives wonders. Do you audition? Do they
come for you? Just just one of the housewives that's already
been selected recommend you. I want to know.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I've spent the last six years my life being bullied
by Nicole O'Neill to come on the show.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And what did she say? Did she say it was
going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, she just said it would be a lot of fun.
You'd be perfect for Housewives, you know, and season especially
she was very keen on I guess having characters that,
you know, we had deep rooted friendships, and Nicole and
I and Chrissy and Terry have known each other for,
you know, a long long time.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Is this what you kind of thought it would be
like to be on the Real Housewives or has it
surprised you.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I don't think it has surprised me. I think it's
it is like what I expected. I think I wasn't shocked.
Nothing shocked me as such. But you know, at the
end of the day, like with everything, you have the
highest of the highs and the lowest of the lows,
and I think we certainly had that. You know, you'll
see it play out on screen, but we really felt
(03:41):
all those things in real life too.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So I think this is what's so strange. You know,
we always say to people, now, reality TV only works
if you're being authentic, and so of course you need
to be authentic. But I want to know, were you
frightened about saying yes to this show because the first
season of Sydney hadn't been received so well by the fans.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Honestly, that was one of my driving factors and saying
yes to doing the show. And I don't think it
is because the first rendition of Housewives of Sydney was
necessarily bad. I don't have those feelings. I know some
people do. I really wanted to represent my city. I
love Sydney, so yeah, I mean it was important to
me to do Sydney proud. I had to be authentic
(04:24):
because you cannot maintain a character for four months of filming,
like you cannot do it. So I was very mindful
of being myself, and I think the times when I
wasn't myself because it was too.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Hard, it was too confronting. I was nervous. I think
you can tell. I think you can tell.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Even in episode two there's a statement that I said,
and the first time I said it, the producer had said, no,
it needs to be stronger. So we'd gone to like
the third or fourth time of saying this statement, and
I watched it and I was cringing because I was like, wow,
like I did say that, but it was the fourth
time and it's lost my voice.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I've always wanted to know, like how quickly do they
do those pieces to camera? Like do you film the
whole series and then have to go back? Do they
show you some footage so you kind of know what
you're talking about. I've always wanted to know how those
pieces to cameras are put together.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Basically every every second event. So if you look at
the show as its highlight points being events, so Terry's lunch,
Nicoles dinner, the party that Caroline threw for Kate, So
every second big event, we would sit down and you're
(05:39):
filming from anywhere between four and six hours. Wow, two
camera down the barrel, question after question after question. The
only way to get through that is with Coke zero
and snakes. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think Chenna Roach once said to me that she
likes to have a champagne while she does the pieces
to camera and also so gets the crew to have
a champagne to make the whole thing a little bit easier.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Okay, So there was so much drinking going on during
that filming period that when I was doing my one
on ones, I was trying not to drink because we
had so many parties and events and things that we
were filming at. So no, I was definitely not that person.
With my one on ones, I was snakes, Coke zero,
a few fantails.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That was my thing.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You're quite funny in this series, though, and you're kind
of the comic relief in a lot of those pieces
to cameras. So well done to that, But is that
who you are in real life? Is that who you
are with your friends? Is that how your husband sees you?
Are you normally the comedy queen?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Genuinely since inquiring with my friends, apparently I have always
been funny. I actually had a little bit of a
fight with my husband when we're halfway through filming because
the producers kept saying, You're.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So funny, You're so funny, and I was like what.
And I went home and I was like, you never
laugh at my jokes. You don't think I'm funny. That's
missing in our relationship. And he's like, I don't think
you're that funny.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The same thing happens to me. Actually, I would say
that I'm the funnier person in my friendship circle and
they'd probably agree. But my partner he, I don't think
he's laughed at anything that I've said in maybe the
last fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Look ultimately like, I'm not a trained comedian at all,
as you know, you guys would know, So you can't
say something funny all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
It has to be organic.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So it's not like I'm saying funny things the whole time,
like it's impossible for.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Me to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
But I do have a really dry sense of humor,
and I just, I guess I leant into it because
you know, I wasn't as strong a character as some
of the other girls. I don't mean on the show,
I mean in genuine personality, like Chrissy for example, who's
my dear friend, Like her personality is so strong. I'm
not a wallflower, but I'm not like I'm not going
(07:53):
to be the first one to stand up and toast
someone at a party or you know, that's very Chrissy
for example, just to use her as an obvious example.
So I guess the only thing that I had that
I could lean into that I was really comfortable with
was my dry sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I think it's very interesting that you say that, because
I don't actually think that the loudest person in the
room is who people like on these shows. I actually
think that what works is someone who sits back and
thinks about what's being said, and you know, maybe takes
their time and says it in their piece to camera.
And I also wonder with some of those louder people
on these shows. Is that how they were the whole time?
(08:32):
And like, is that quiet version of you how it
was when you guys were filming, or is that kind
of been stylized and put together in a different way.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I would definitely come off set all the time, flustered
and sometimes embarrassed, thinking why the hell have they cast me?
Like I can't I can't just jump in and say
my opinion, like sometimes because I'm reserved, and sometimes because.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I did not have an opinion on what they were
to talking about.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You know, like the model conversation was a really obvious one,
you know that I can bring up because you guys
have seen it, so it's not a spoiler alert. Like
I could argue in my head both ways. And I
was like a pretty serious debater at school. And how
I often make a decision if I'm going to speak up,
is I'm like, how strong and I.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Can just go through Okay, diversity, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But then all of a sudden and I was like,
I'm not fucking getting involved in this because if I
don't say diversity, I'm going to get my head totally
bitten off. And I'm not saying that I don't like diversity.
I love diversity, But I can see the other side
of the argument too, which is essentially they're trying to
sell clothes, right, so they want the crowd, the viewer
(09:44):
to be able to identify with the person coming. So
I'm all for diversity and that yes, have a beautiful
woman of Indian cultural descent of average, absolutely, but chucking
a pregnant woman. Now, you're not even trying to sell
the clothes to pregnant women, and like, that doesn't make sense.
That what's going through my head so is out is
(10:05):
that yes, busted? Thinking that I was failing because I
was quieter than the rest.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
What do you think about this? This show is very
popular and is really well known for its conflict. Do
you think that's a true reflection on how women behave
or do you think that this show in some ways
glorifies bad behavior amongst women.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
This is a really tricky question because it's part of
the formula.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
In your own group of friends, you were just mentioning
outside before that you wouldn't call out someone for their behavior. However,
in this show, it is kind of a part of
the job.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And that's what's different. So, and I hope I don't
get in trouble. I was saying all this, your job.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Is often to speak up on something that is your truth. Yes,
so you can't just lie about something. But you know,
maybe ordinarily, if you said to me, do you like
Apple Watches, I just say yes, I do, fine, I
don't like Apple Watches.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Hate the show. I've got to say, I fucking hate
your Apple Watch.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So that's the difference where I think they got the
formula right this time. Was casting me Nicole, Terry and
Chrissy and Sally because we had really known each other.
Sally had known Terry for sixteen years, you know. So
when something happens between us on the show, which is
(11:28):
all to come for your listeners at home, the pain
is real when I'm sad, when you get to that
point in the show, like I was crying on camera,
but I wasn't just crying on camera. I was crying
at home with my mom, with my husband, in front
of my kids, with my brother, with my sister, because
(11:50):
it was really hurting me. It wasn't just a staged
TV moment because that person in that moment that had
hurt me meant a lot to me. So when you
feel hurt by them. Your emotions, you know, are recited.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And that is what is really interesting to me at
the moment because you mentioned your family. And what I
find really hard about these shows is that everything becomes
fair game. You know, when you're putting yourself on there
and your family and your friends, everyone is up for conversation.
Paris Hilton just recently posted a photo of her child
and it was so horrific to see the comments that
(12:28):
was being made. Are you worried or did you have
conversations with your friends about how involved they may need
to be seeing as you've signed up to a reality
show like this look.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
With my kids.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Certainly it was, and they don't feature a lot on
the show. And even when they asked me to talk
about my kids, I got nervous and I brushed it
off by saying.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But all moms love their kids. That's boring. And what
I was really trying.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
To do was, like in a weird TV off the cuff,
I was caught out moment for them because what I
didn't share was going to be protected, you know what
I mean. So I was really conscious of that with
my kids. And then in the same breadth, you are
obsessed with your kids and proud of them, so you
want them to be on the show. So it was
this awful conflicting emotion that you had about my kids.
(13:20):
When it came to my mum, who will make an
appearance on the show, I felt different because you know,
she's over the age of sixty, she's a big girl.
We're best friends.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I always say, don't read the comment section, nor should
anyone ever write back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
She doesn't really know how to get online and respond
to the comments, but we can screen grab some and
we'll bring her back onto the podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know, Housewives has been around for nearly twenty years,
like Orange County is the longest one, and I think
that they're soon to be coming up to around that
kind of a milestone because it started so long ago.
Do you think that the nature of the way we're
presenting women hanging out still flex or has updated itself
to the way in which women now hang out? You know,
(14:04):
in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think we've done a better job of reflecting how
women truly hang out in this series. That being said,
there's no business like show business. It's entertainment. So it's
this really complicated mix of reality TV that you guys
want to watch. So if you really followed me, Nick
and Chrissy around, you certainly don't have our hair and
(14:28):
makeup done. And we don't always meet at a restaurant,
you know. Sometimes we just go for a walk. They
do film a few walks, but you can't film us
walking every single episode. So I think there is an
element of capturing how women truly hang out. But we've
got to remember that it's a TV show at the end.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Of the day.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
What about amongst most of my female friendship groups, there's
usually a gay man in there. Do you think it's
about time actual franchise has a gay person on the
show Lovely Game.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Last week, I was at a beautiful lunch for Camilla
with Love and Leading Hotels the world, and I was
sitting next to a guy I know who's gay, and
I said, you should be on Housewives.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
He's got two kids, beautiful husband.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
But he responded, what you said before, I want to
protect my children. Sure, So I mean, I think bringing
a gay guy onto the show, especially one that had kids, I.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Think for that reason, that's why it would be fascinating.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, but that is opening up a can of worms
to people to attack them, like, you know, so it
would have to be someone really.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Fucking strong, really fucking strong. And I think that there
are a lot of queer men out there that could
handle this. And I think those queer men that are
having children. I mean I saw on Facebook last week
two different same sex male attracted couples doing gender reveals
on their Facebook. So men are now, you know, having
families like this. It's a big conversation that could be
(15:56):
had on a show like this.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I think everyone no one cares if anyone's gay anymore,
no one cares if anyone gets married, but I think
there's still a few people that care if they have kids.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Would you say no, I think you're right. I think
you're right.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
The last frontier the gay man to speak to help.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I think it'll come down to a housewife standing up
for it, to be honest with you, I genuinely do,
because I've spoken to franchises around the world and so
far there is a lot of discussions and there has
been a few franchises that have come close. Really, but
it is about a housewife saying this is my friend
and I want them on the show. And I think
when you're as liked as you are, which we've just
started to see over the first two episodes. Maybe it's
(16:32):
your places.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And I am happy to champion that campaign. It would
be my honor.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I just need to decide who the fuck are you
going to kick off?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, not to tease anything, but think about it. We've
all heard that there's still a rift that's happening between
all of you wants the show finishes. We've been told
there's no reunion. Who who's most.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Likely to not come I But I will tell you
from my perspective that you know, for me coming back,
which I would love to do, it really is dependent
upon how many of my good girlfriends who came on
this show with me are coming back to because at
the end of the day, we're here to have fun.
We're not here to fight. Occasionally, we do have to
(17:14):
have a little fight because that's human nature, and that's
a that's the show. But big riffs and big divisions,
they're not my thing. And we'll figure out, you know,
I'll get to the bottom of who we're kicking off.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Just you wait and see.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The last question I ask everyone is something that everyone gets.
This is episode two hundred and forty five. Of the podcast,
So thank you for being here. What is something from
behind the scenes, something we won't see, kind of like
a behind the scenes secret of the show. And this
doesn't have to peel back, you know, the curtain too far.
But I mean something the.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Most obvious one.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It's not funny, but we filmed in May, in Sydney,
and everyone thinks of Sydney as this like beacon of
the most sunny sunshine place in the world. The average
temperature in May in Sydney was eight fucking degree, so
we were some of these nights were the worst nights
(18:06):
of my life in that We're trying to dress sexy,
dress in these beautiful designer clothes and shivering. So sometimes
I would get off, you know, from filming, and I'd
be like blue jaw, like shaking. So I mean, I
don't know if you can tell how cold we are?
Can you tell how cold we are?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
We look pretty cold on that boat, I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Could you tell that that was the hardest night of
my life? Like I know that there's people that have
real problems, but that was a really hard night.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Ask any actors. Actors always have a big coat on
the side. Can I just say you are very fantastic
in the show, and thank you for being so generous
talking with me today, and I look forward to maybe
talking to you for the series three.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I'll be there.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I think you'll survive.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Thank you.
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