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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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eliminated housemates from Big Brother twenty twenty three. I have
been looking forward to catching up with Gracie May all season,
and to be honest, getting to know TJ a little
bit better was also a massive bonus. In today's catch
up he May was the fun, loving original housemate with
the fields of an old school Big Brother contestant. Her
shock eviction was pretty epic with Manet, but even more
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shocking was Lewis's decision to take that five thousand dollars
offer over allowing her to return to the competition. TJ
came in as an intruder, but quickly won over his housemates.
You'd be fair to assume that his relationship with one
of the sisters was a strategic move, but you have
to wonder if that worked out, as Ari was the
very reason that he was evicted. These two housemates are
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pretty chilled out with their approach to unpacking the series,
which I'm gonna say you're all going to enjoy. And
while TJ joined us a little bit late due to
a technical difficulty, I have to admit I think this
is the best chat that I've had for Big Brother
this year. I will find out from Gracie May if
she was surprised by Lewis's decision to keep the cash
over allowing her return to the house, and how that's
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affected their relationship moving forward. TJ will openly talk about
his thoughts post show on his eviction to his thoughts
on Dion and what the current relationship status is for Urriy.
Both my guests today will share who they want to win,
what they thought of Sonya Krueger as the host, and
what showed Bracy May would like to do. Next Plus,
we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes
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of Big Brother Australia, which returns next Monday night on
Channel seven at eight thirty. And if you've fallen just
that little bit behind, you can catch up on seven Plus,
which is also the exclusive home of Big Brother. I'm
cut anyway, Let's bring Gracey Man into the podcast, who
you'll hear first. TJ does join in soon after, and
they are ready to discuss all the web down for
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the fourth week of Big Brother for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Let's freaking go. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I want to ask you first off, because this has
been such a common question on the threads after some
of the other contestants revealed that they were cast through
being you know, producers hitting Instagram and you being more
like an og sort of a housemate, like a housemate
that belongs in a dif an era. Yeah, were you
approached through Instagram like them? Or did you go through
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the application process officially?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Absolutely not. I was not approached, and I can't believe
that people were being approached. I was like, I can't
believe this. And I think that there's a small, small
handful of us that have had applied. And look, I
applied on a whim. I just like was like, oh
quit my job moved back to the Gold Coast. And
then they send an email like hey, it's your last
chance to apply. So I'm like, oh, fuck it, I've
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got no job. And then they literally rang me the
next day. And then when I went to the audition,
people were like talking like did they reach out to you?
Did they reach out to you? I'm thinking, wait, they're
reaching out to people.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
But this is the reason why the fans, I think,
have connected with you so much, because there is an
essence of who you are as a person wanting to
apply and being on the show. You really want to
be there.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, and I think it definitely translates through. And look,
I think that I've always been a bit wacky and crazy,
but I was really quiet in my audition, so I
was like, oh, great, I've blown it. But I think
that you definitely see that through the house and even
with the other people that have just organically applied, you
see that they are like big brother people.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Can you tell us who other people who were the
other housemates that applied like you did?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I know that Lewis definitely did, okay, and then I
know that there's one more maybe it's Kwan, but I'm
not entirely sure. Okay, I think that Kwan may have applied. Also,
I'm sure that there's maybe one one other maybe, but
I was salty. I'm thinking, well, they weren't going to
find my Instagram?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Were they?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Instant of famous people translate to good TV content? This
is like with TV producers, and we talk about this
all the time because a lot of shows, especially like
Your Love Islands, you know, shows where you're looking for
sexiness and all the rest of it. I guess you'll
want us check out their abs on in staff, but
does it translate?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Listen. I think that when I first got in, yes,
there were some big personalities, which was great, and everyone
is so so lovely, but I was expecting to have
more fun, like you see me in the series, and
I'm just like looking for trouble. I want to muck about,
and I remember saying to Luisa, I'm like, why is
no one like having fun? Where are they all? And
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I think that that part for me is like, maybe
that's the separation, but look, Big Brothers are not all
there for people to go in there and muck around,
so it's hard to say no.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It is like, I mean, we're not there to fuck spiders.
And to be fair, Gracie May, had you not been
in this series, I don't know how I would feel
about this series because you are the breath of fresh
air that the audience have and myself have absolutely craved.
And for people who have stuck with this series and
watched this one, you just have to read the fan
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fums like the show.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's been so beautiful to see what everyone has said.
And I think that the most key takeaway for this
and if there's future Big Brothers is you have to
be yourself. And maybe that's the separation between your Instagram people.
You know it's a facade, you're pleasing people, and you
can tell when it's not necessarily real, and that's the thing.
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You're in that house twenty four to seven. You can't
keep that for start Up twenty all the time. And
for me, I was just literally being myself, so they
only had those bits of me, and I think that
that's what translates to Australia is the raw, no filter,
all of those things.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Why do we need to keep saying this to people
about reality television though? I mean, the currency is just
being yourself. And I say, whether you're a bad person
or a good person, exactly be that. Because I was
quite villainous in my series, but because that's genuinely who
I am. I think people voted for me to win
because they were like, exactly, you're just being yourself and
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that's the currency.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah. I thought the exact same thing last night. It
doesn't even matter if you're a piece of shit. Be
a piece of shit, because people are going to know
that it's real and they still connect no matter what.
So yeah, I think that that was my biggest blessing
for me is I really worked a lot on myself
and I was like, Gracie, you go in there and
you be yourself. And I'm just so grateful that I stuck.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
To that piece of advice I'll always give people is
take your bag of shit and unpack it in front
of Australia. Literally drag it in there.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And yeah, let it all out for the world to see.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I cannot believe you're eliminated. And it really it shattered me.
It shatty there and I was lucky enough to I
watched this series a few weeks ago. I was lucky
enough to watch it in advance. And I will share
with you that I watched ten episodes in a row
on a Saturday one day.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I don't know how you did it. That's even the
double aps. I'm like, I'm over simulated, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I did. My partner was away and he doesn't always
want to watch the shows that I want to watch.
You know. He probably thinks, well that I need a
restraining order against Big Brad. But I watched ten episodes
in a row. I felt like I was in there.
And the last episode I watched that day I think
was your elimination. It's a watch and I had to be.
That was where I was like, I've got to go
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make my two minute noodles.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It was rough, and I think that I didn't expect it,
and like the og Big Brother fan in me is like,
this was public voting, it would be different. But I
think the fact that I got my little second shot
in the halfway house, I'm like, okay, thank you. They
know what I know, and they're going to get me
back in there. And even after that, I was talking
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to Lisa and I was like, babes, you get me
back in I don't care that this second chance is
give me a third one. Get me back in there.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You need me without a sounding really, you know, because
this would be hard for you with that wanting to
come across as being arrogant. But do you think that
if you'd made it to the end and you face
the public vote, that you would be the winner of
Big Brother for twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Three If you had have asked me before it started airing,
I genuinely wouldn't have a clue because I don't I'm
a confident person, but I don't think I'm that confident
to be like I win that thing. However, after watching
it air and seeing how well people connected with me,
I one hundred percent would have that money.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And because no one else to.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Say, I do think, I do think that especially yeah,
I truly believe that, but only after watching it air
and seeing the love.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Online Lewis really seemed to shock Australia. I think Louis
seemed to shock Australia as well. Yes, it was not
the way we thought it was going to go. We
thought that did Lewis do the right thing?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Have you been?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Were you legitimately okay? Do they cut around the fact
that you threw things around in that halfway way? No?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You know what. I think that by the time and
you would understand this, it hits a point and you're like, oh, well,
I'm fried, I'm starving, and then I'm in a room
with Manet for forty eight hours, which is hilarious, but
I'm also like what is going on? And I think
that by the time he took it, I was really
at peace, you know, because I I know that if
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I had have gone back into that house, it wouldn't
have been the best parts of my character. Those last
couple of days in there for me were not it.
I was really upset. You know that you're going home,
you know that the house doesn't want you there. And
I think that an element to him taking that money
is like, I don't want to put her through that
heartache because he knows I'm a sensitive soul, and to
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be honest, like with the editor Paul Gracie, I'll take.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It dine out on that girlfriend, because you know what,
it almost feels like we've been left with this desire
to see more, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
No, I'm so so at peace and I'm so happy,
you know, like there has never been any of course,
I was disappointed when I got out, and I think
that so were the Big Brother crew. They're like, what's
going on? This is not meant to be. But look,
I'm grateful. I would not change a damn frickin thing.
And I love Lewis and he did what he could
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at the time. And I know that he was the
vote afterwards, but you're in the house. You make those
split decisions.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Did he take you out for dinner?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
No, but well he hasn't got the money yet, I
don't think. But he did ring me. Look he rang
me the second he got out of the house. Yeah,
and he was like, I'm so sorry, rabbra Rah. But
he did ring me the other day and he's like,
we're going on a holiday, Gracie, We're going to use
that money. And it's not because I'm guilty. I just
really want to enjoy it together. And I said, okay, Lewis,
we'll do that.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Would there ever have been anything romantic between the two
of you. I couldn't see it. I could just see friendship.
But there was definitely a lot of chatter about whether
or not you two could hook up.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I don't think that there is a lick of sexual
chemistry between Lewis and I.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I did not see that though.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, And I think that at the start, when you're
first in the house and everyone's like coupling up, you
do think like, could that be? But I know me
and if I'm feeling a connection, it's literally immediately, it's
something in the air. And Lewis and I. It's funny.
We just linked ums one day early on and walked
through a door together and smacked into it, and I
think that we just looked at each other and I'm like, oh,
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we're going to be great friends. Just kicked off from there.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It was the Ernie and Bird moment for me. I
was like, these guys were meant to be friends. Like
this is great, tj I. We've just had you join,
which is very exciting.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Can I morning guys? Sorry about some technical difficulties.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, I'm assuming when you've got abs like that that
you have to get up and start working early on
that stuff. I don't have ab you know, maybe you
would business.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, Look, I think that's a lot of Chatnel
seven that I have to thank for that, a lot
of lighting in smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But I'll absolutely cop that.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
No, that not really you you know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I accidentally ran into Louis at a bar about a
week after Big Brother had finished, and he was there
with Bella and a few other housebeaks. Now I can't
remember who it was. It was twelve months ago, could
you believe it? And I remember saying someone said to me,
so you've met some of the housemates and said, yeah,
this series of housemates looked like AI like in they
look so it's like a permanent filter is on the
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fucking lot of is because when you came in with Bella,
I had to keep adjusting the TV set because I
was like, these people, I mean, you must get you
must get this a lot, right. I mean, I'm not
just creeping out right now.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Am I? Oh? Look, I certainly you know that.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I feel like everyone gets sad though I guess beauty's
and I the beholder, so I'm sure that there's people
out there that think everyone's attractive.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
And I really brief out that, so thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
We have to talk about this because like, you were
put up the nomination by someone you're in a relationship with,
and can you get over something like that. I mean,
that's how you ended.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Up leaving, So yeah, that is how I ended up leaving.
I yeah, it's watching it back last night. It was
a little bit bizarre because obviously I think the girls
had alliances with some people in the house, obviously myself
being one. I was in a relationship or a situationship
with Ari and Joshua Tay and I know that they
would never put d on it, but that still leaves
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three other people that they could. Obviously one of their
votes went to Taylor, But yeah, it's a little bit bizarre.
I don't think that I would ever put the girls
up if I were in that situation, and I never
had voted for them in that situation as well, so
I could look in turn, it's a game. I'm not
going to hold any bad blood have any grudges around that,
But yeah, if I was in that situation, I would
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have put my significant other up up for noms.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But there's a rationale that I feel like we're missing
out on because they didn't even really explain it enough, Like,
I mean, surely they deliberated on that for a while
and then yeah, a more of a propersal idea about it.
I feel like we as the viewers were just like.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
What the fun what just happened?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, it doesn't make it doesn't And like I would
never speak to her ever again.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
No, No, Ari is such a great girl. So it
was Taylor. They're such great girls.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And definitely, look after I got out the house, it's
just a whirlpool of emotions.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
And when we're driving doing our interviews.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
After you're a victim, you got druv the car, they
ask you a bunch of questions. They sort of asked
me that you know, you upset that Ari put you
up for nominations and I was like, oh, look at
the game blah blah blah, and they're like, I don't
think you understand she put you up phenominations and you
got a victim.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Like that's there's something in that.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
So I think, looking back on it out, I'm like, shit,
she did, didn't be but look, no ill feeling or
malice toward them.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Did that player differently Once the show were finished, though,
because I mean, guys sort of left with the show,
you know, like the relationship is still existing. I'm assuming,
but did that create problems for you once the camera
stopped rolling.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
No, actually, Ari and I were seeing each other for
a little bit after the show finished, so we continuate
that's great. Yes, oh got her mother is absolutely gorgeous,
my goodness. Yeah yeah, yeah, so Ari and I were
seeing each other for a little bit after the show
that has finished.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
But yeah, still really good friends.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I could still text her and so I hate you
going to catch up for a coffee or a Lime
of thick shake or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Something we didn't see, though, which Bella mentioned in the
podcast last week, was that there was more to your
relationship with Bella with the way you were in the
King and Queen Quarters, and that she revealed basically, I
think that she's still got the hots for you. I
might be talk. I actually think you're more suited once
I got to have Bella on the podcast and have
a long debrief. Not that I know any of yours,
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but you know you feel like you do.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
But anyway, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I feel like you're more suited to Bella. Am I
going I'm patching you up by my playing you but
I'm doing a good job.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I reckon you set me up here, Benji, look Bella again.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
It will be flower girls, So thank you bell.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Bellow again is such a great girl. And yeah, we
did have a pretty strong connection in the house. People
have asked me, was my move to Ari's strategy or
was it sort of relationship base? And it definitely wasn't
strategy at the time or at any sort of stage.
I don't think that if it was for strategy, would
we have continued it after the show as well? We
definitely had a little something there, but maybe I just
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didn't explore it enough with Beller at the time in
the house. But yeah, Bella is great, Like we text
all the time with Congwood friends too.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
We kind of have an uncut series the up later's
And like the fact that there was stuff we didn't see,
which I'm disappointed with considering there's a side show now
is stuff that we shouldn't see but we should?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, was there something.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That happened with you two in that Kings and Queens?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh, I've got a really bad connection here, you guys
can hear.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Look, a gentleman never kisses and tells.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I definitely think there were some situations when you are
in Look, I'm gonna put it this way. I am
quite a confident male. And when you are in the
Big Brother House and there are cameras everywhere and you
have a situation where you are alone with an attractive female,
I certainly think situations get heated amongst you both. And yeah,
there were certainly a few heated situations between Bella and
(17:29):
I that I don't think, Thank goodness for my mother
and my three sisters were on camera. Yeah, we might
have to start early fans.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, you know what I always say that I did
Big Brother eleven years ago. There was barely Instagram, barely Instagram. Yeah,
there's like these reality shows, there's like two possibilities. Do
you want, Like, if you want to pursue a career
in media, do you go on radio or do you
open and early fans? And I feel like a good
question for the two of you with listening to this,
it's fine you can say. But if anyone was to
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do an only fans coming out of the series of
Big Brother, Gracie May, who would that be? Do you
think it should be?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Teacher? Have you seen the bloot?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Like I take you close off and we'll do an audition,
and two would.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Make really good money. I think of the two conflicting
things in my head. I don't know like who would
actually go forth with it, but I think there's some
people that would make some money.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Men, Yes, I definitely would.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I know people that are not that attractive that have
been on reality TV, and I won't name them.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Don't be shy name them.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
No one listens to this, but I know this person
in particular will listen to this podcast and is from
the Big Brother family. So we'll tease you with that
much information. But you don't have to be that attractive
to be on only fans because there's a bit of
a sexiness about. I think there's a bit of an
allure about. You've seen them on television and now you're
seeing them without the kid on, do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
So you'll pay for some wild stuff. And I don't
think they care what you look like the time.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Look, I don't think I do, but I mean unless
they're in defeat or elbows and oh god no.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I could barely walk around my swimmers in that place.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
For me to walk out my swimmers with bloody josh
around there, that guy's built like Zeus.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
There was a lot of that going on Grace he
made though. Have you spoken to Lewis about uncut and
about his nutiness on that show? Do you know if
he was okay with.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
His Oh, it's like the most chill bloke ever. And
I think they're going into it. You know that they're
going to use whatever. And if he's got his kid out,
he's more than happy for people to see it. And
it was such a topic in the house, you know,
the size of it, that this and the that, and
it was honestly never brought up again because that's how
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chill it is. He's like, oh, if people say they
see some of the episodes, is like, oh, I haven't
even watched that. I've just I've been away at a festival.
I better go home and catch up.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I guess if I had a habit like Lewis, I
would be I wouldn't even wear pants at the Big
Brother House, just have it out.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It was the only dood what we ended up seeing.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Louis Phillips too, Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No, there's definitely more because I remember maybe Zach. Maybe
Zach has his bits and bobs out densely. Why wasn't
your kid out, TJ.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Give the people you saw a little bit of my
bumblebeetatt on my butt, But that's not about it.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I was trying to get it out, but they weren't.
They kept sending the cameras off.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We've entered into the dark zone. But I feel like,
you know, for a lot of people that have tuned
back into Big Brother this year, they were really up
for that stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh yeah, they're wild for I think if they brought
back Friday night games, that wouldn't even rate as much
as the uncut the Young cut.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Look, I personally love watching the young Cut. I love
seeing all of our personality in there. I think that
that's what feels so true to me, and my time
in that house is what they they put out an uncut,
and I'm just I'm so glad that they've done it.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, I'm an agree with you.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They're Gracie because I feel like, even for myself, a
lot of my time on the show that was shown
was just sort of me Kissinari whereas that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Such a good time and you don't see a whole
lot of it. But TJ would just ping pong back
and forth with people like band to ban to banter,
and sometimes I'd fling one of my little one liners
out and TJ's the only one that got it.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, I just feel like I had a lot more
to show than just kissing girls.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, you're a good time teach Roucie.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I'm on the Gold Coast, and I swear to god,
I came out here into this little bungalow to do
this podcast. And honestly, I don't know whether it's because
you two are attractive and I can't turn the camera around,
but I have got like all of these exotic birds
that have come to watch, and I don't know if
you can hear them in the background, but they I can't.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yeah, no, okay, little audience, they're very loud.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I don't know whether to feed.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Honestly, we should have just all met up for this potty.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
If you're on the goals, I mean, wow, okay, so
we're all basically quite yes, Well, do you know what
It's also really funny was that back in the old day,
a lot of the Big Brother people, once they came
out of the show, they'd moved to the Gold Coast.
It was really weird because that's where the show was
made and I always just to think it was really strange.
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I'd be like, are they like homing pigeons and they
need to go back to the homeland, Like does it
make them feel like they're back on the show?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
But from the Bonds, maybe that I haven't.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Reggie lives five minutes from the old Big Brother house
and it's so strange to me that she's like living
so close to where it was. But yesterday I was
in Westfield in Kumra and these people came up to
me and said, your house is now the Red Rooster.
Oh no, the KFC, And so where our house was
has been demolished a KFC. And that's really shocking because
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KFC sponsors Big Brothers. So I don't know if that's
the thing.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
But conflict of interest, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
God, that's so rude.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Look, if I was to die, just put a piece
of KFC on me. So I'm happy with it, But
I want to ask you with this this halfway room,
So when Big Brother decides which housemates he's going to say,
is that fair? And how does the housemates treat that?
Because having Gracie Maymond go into that room and have
them be some of the biggest storylines of the series.
Big brother obviously wants to save them because that's going
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to be good TV. But how does that sit How
does that land with everyone that's still left in the
house who fairly eliminated them.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Look, Big Brothers House is so full of twists and turns,
and you're right, Gracey May and a are such huge
pieces of the puzzle that we were in this year,
and if you were going to save anyone, you'd probably
want those two save. You know, Gracey May with her
just wit in humor and just I guess the way
she played the game is great, and Manet and louis
obviously creating that sort of situation and all the drama
(23:35):
that surrounded that. They it's kind of what people want
to watch. Was I ecstatic when I saw them on
the screen? I love you, Gracy, But probably not.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
We've already been talking about honesty and so it doesn't
matter if you're a good person or a bad person,
as long as you're being honest.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
That works.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That's the current.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, absolutely, no, Yeah, And look it was we had
I guess a plan going into that eviction, and the
plan was to get Dion out. Then Dion did his
little rack on tour session just and swung this story
for Joshi and Joshi the bit on the bait and
see a later teach. So it's funny because Joshua has
such good friends now and we laugh about it. But yeah, look,
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it was certainly surprising, and I knew there was something
fishy about that light detector too, so it kind of
pieces together. But we Yeah, I don't think we were
as impressed to see the girls.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I actually watched the episode. It was the second time
I'd seen it, so I knew the outcome. But I
was sitting next to Reggie, who won last year, and
as soon as they eliminated the screen, she was like,
Crazie May has been eliminated and she goes, oh, fuck off,
and then she went no, no, no, She's definitely going
into another room. So like, if anyone was going to
be saved, we kind of thought that was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, absolutely, I think it would have been those girls
or Jaco's sorry, I just need to grab any tissue.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
One second.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
It's funny because when I was getting safe, because like
I've never been a victim before, I don't know what happened.
So I'm walking down the hall and I assume I'm
going out these supers. Then I go out the other
one and I was like, oh, I guess this is
the way out. But I had no idea that i'd
even been saved on my house. Okay, I guess yep,
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Wait wait, wait, so Big Brother doesn't he didn't say
you couldn't hear him say, grossier, your time in the
house is still going.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
So that I don't know, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
You just saw a dark room and went in.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And I just went straight on through.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
It's so funny Louis entered his villain era and I'd
been told this before, you know, i'd started watching this
series that he really, you know, does a doozy on
everyone this series, you know, playing the game. Do you
think he if he makes it to the end, we'll
get the public vote? Because the conversation is this, you
could play a really tough game with this new Survivor
version of Big Brother to get to the end, but
(25:43):
doing that much mischief willister? So what do you both
have to say about that? Do you think that, yes,
he's played a skillful game, but maybe Australia won't vote
for him? Like, what's your thoughts on that if he
does get.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
To the end, it depends what I guess demographic of
audiences watching. Louis played the game so well and manipulated
situations that would benefit him and those around him. So
if you're looking for gameplay like you had that. He
also had a relationship aspect of things and obviously a
little bit tumultuous with him and Manet, So I guess
he had.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
A lot of that.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And I think, you know, if he does make it
to the end, maybe saving your name will be a
good thing.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You just got to wait and see who's watching it
and how Australia sort of depict his decisions.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I think he knows that if Mona makes it to
the end, they're not going to vote for her, because
I mean, all you have to do is read the
fans poums. She hasn't really won as many fans, which
is weird because everyone loves Disney and she looks like
a Disney princess.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
She does, she does. Indeed, what do you think Racie made?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Do you think it's worth playing a ruthless game to
get to the end?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
But TJ, I completely agree. I think that obviously I
was filthy ad, But I'm like, you know what, that's
big brother. Half your people are going to go in
to cause a rucus have a lot of fun, and
then you've got your game players. And he absolutely has
nailed the role up until now. And I think that, yeah,
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sure people might be like pissed off if he's been ruthless,
but if he makes it to the end, that would
be phenomenal gameplay wise. You know that if he does
get to the end, Australia's going to see how well
he has done that, and yeah, he's done well.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I was.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I was like, why wasn't I more like Louis when
I was a victed I was like, I should have
had my head screwed on.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
But he was a slow burn, like do you know
what I mean? Maybe that wasn't how it evolved in reality,
but for us watching the show, he was really quiet.
Like I remember thinking when he was on his first
day with money, that was the most boring date I'd
ever seen. I was like, has that guy forgot to
put the coins in the slot because his personality ain't working.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I don't think everything is as it seems with that.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
It's quite funny.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Items like a tease to something crazy. May you've got
to say we're going with that episode? What about for you?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Tej?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
In that elimination, Dion obviously started crying, made some pretty
good pleas to keep himself in the You know it
ended with you leaving. But because we know that he's
a liar alive pants are on fire? Are people going
to believe him? You know? Now? Do you believe that
those tears when he cried to get to be saved
were genuine or do you think he was Was that
a part of the bruise?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I don't believe there were any tears at all, And
I think that he knew which vote he had to sway,
and you could see he directed his pleet at one
certain person, and I believe that, yeah, he did what
he had to do to stay in the game.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I wasn't a fan.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I'm not going to sort of whether he did make
up things or sort of swing allegations around. I'm not
a person to sort of bring my family and stuff
into that or swear my mum's life if I'm not
honest about something. So look props to him if he's
comfortable doing that, But that's.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Just not where my morals sit.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
He went hard. I don't think Dion's ever been that
hard in his life.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, he definitely had a fair dip better he knew
what he had to do.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I thought that my plea was enough to sort of
say I sort of three words in like trust and
loyalty in there because of Dion's previous situation where the
vote on Jake as we all know, and I was
hoping that was enough to sort of solidify that within Josh.
And you know again, we went in there with the
plan and that plan went left real quick.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Racy May, what do you think about TJ when he
was talking about, you know, wanting to be considered as
a og housemaid and no longer have the intruderst Did
people really even treat TJ as an intruder? I kind
of feel like you came in, okay, Like he came
in early enough for him to in my mind, I
don't even think of TJ being an intruder. Do you
think he was able to become that title?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
You know what, TJ settled in super quickly. And the
thing is is he put time into everyone and quick.
You know, like the second he was in there, he's
in there. He's like Hey, TJ's in the room. Hello, Hello, Hello.
Made everyone feel really good every day, and I think
that that was to his benefit, you know, because he
just inserted himself as if he was an og and
(29:46):
that's what you've got to do. But I think when
it comes down to it, as someone that was in
there first, in your mind, you're like, nah, they haven't
been here from the start, see you later. It's not
a personal thing. It's that I know that you came
in a week later. So no, but he really nailed
the role of an intruder. I can't fault him for it.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I never even thought of that until even when he
said it, Like TJ, when you said that last night,
I was like, oh, that's right, he was an intruder.
Like in my mind, you were just there from the start.
And that's a pretty good thing to be able to
have an impact on an audience like that. Do you know? Yeah, absolutely,
because I definitely, And I remember how we treated the intruders.
We treated them like prostitutes that shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Have been I still think I got that kind of treatment. Yeah. Look,
it was so it was hard.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Even though we were five days out of when Gracie,
me and the other Ogs went in. It was so
hard to sort of work our way into those groups.
And regardless of the fact that you know, I did
work hard and I did put those all that time
and effort into people, I still had that sigma of
being an intruder. And I could sort of hear murmurs
and stuff like that around the house that Dion set
it in the chair.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I doesn't want to lose to an intruder.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Josh wants the ogs to go through so like, and
there was a lot of og chat swung around. And
although I did try to break that down, I don't
think you ever realistically.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Will can absolutely break that down.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I'm going to so you have big brother fandom works,
and that is that they forget. I also had someone
yesterday say to me, were you in the series with
Chrissy Swan? And I was like fourteen years before me.
But that's so. The way in which I believe this
series will be remembered is that Gracie May was the winner.
That's how they'll remember it, regardless, that's just how they
will do it, and they'll think you're an original housemate.
(31:20):
I guarantee you.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I hope. So that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I love that for both parties.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I think you should get on the hundred grand Gracey mate,
just as just cause you know what.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
It's going to come to me one day, mark my words.
I don't know how, but one day they'll just be
one hundred grand in the bank account and someone's going
to be like, yeah, you know what, you were the winner.
I don't get who actually was, but you are the winner.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Whoever makes it to the end and gets the money
that they don't actually get it. And Big Brother's like, hey.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Call me back.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I'm sorry the housemates, but Brother has decided the person
who worked the hardest for the cash. She's going, I'm
doing a terrible Big Brother right now.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
No, that was all right, babes.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Sonya Krueger was talking to me at the start of
the series. We had a good chat, and she was
in the house more than ever before. She'd even said
to me after my series, because she came into the
house to get me out and I was like I'd
been electrocuted because I couldn't believe what was happening, and
she was too much to stand next to me because
she was like, this person's about to explode. And then
the next year she actually said she didn't want to
(32:14):
go into the house at all, So in the twenty
thirteenth series she never entered the house, so she's come
a long way to be in there as much as
she did. But she did reveal something. She said it
was super duper awkward that time she came in for
that morning time elimination, said she looked horrified, and you
have any underwear on? She said that she saw a
lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I mean probably not from me, but from the
rest of them. And she's so professional too, but you
can just see a ticking over, like what is going on?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, the smell alone of a Big Brother house is
also something to be smelt because you as the housemates
don't smell it because you're living in that social experiment.
But people that would come into the show while we
were all in there would always say that it smelt
like death and broccoli like it was. Yeah, so for
sonya for that. But no, she did say that the
boys there was some awkward. It's an awkward time to
(33:05):
go and do a spotted elimination? Is that morning time
for the boys? She was like, that was the awkward.
Turtle was definitely crawling in.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, and we certainly weren't on in TV attire, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, okay, I'm glad that we've unpacked that one, bless heir.
What was your relationship with her though? Did you were
you enamored by her or was she just like, oh,
here comes the lady that hosts the show, Gracie May.
What was your relationship to Sonya Cruper.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I think it was always super exciting when she would
come into the house and like we would talk about
her hours after eliminations. She looked phenomenal. She is so
professional and I don't mean that you like, I'm just
here to do my job. She knows how to work
the room and she knows how to connect with all
of you, so you feel like you feel like your mates,
(33:51):
and you're like, yeah, I'll tell you everything, Sonya, I'll
tell you everything. She's just yeah. I think it was
really nice. It's kind of like you're a bit starstruck, like,
oh my god, guys, son is here and she looks amazing,
and then you also feel like your friends. So I
couldn't think of a better host, to be honest, PJ.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Did you have a crush on Sonya Krueger? How does that?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Oh, my goodness. I hope she has a sister.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I don't care older or younger, like she is absolutely
dropped out gorgeous.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
She does.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
She looks a lot like Sonya. Actually, once, after a
few drinks at a party where they both were there,
I approached Sonya Krueger number two and thought of Sonya Krueger,
but an actual.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Power her sister.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
So there you go, and you put in a good
word for me, But yeah, no, Sonya. Sonya's great. She's
so quick witted too. You know, if someone says something,
she's just so quick to snap back, and she asks
the right questions and she makes everyone feel included. But yeah,
she's other than being a bloody eleven out of ten,
she's incredible at her job.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Now, before you guys go, I need to ask you,
just really quickly, not what you know now, but what
you thought when you left the show? Who did you
think was going to win?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Grazy Mate, Hi, Ideal Top three, Love Lewis obviously and Dione.
But I really want to see a girl take it
out for the win. So my money is on Taylor Davies.
I am obsessed with her and I really hope that
she can take it through after the season we've had
a girl needs to take the cake.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
TJ.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, I really wanted I really wanted Louis Beers to in.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I really hope he goes all the way.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I just think that he has such a great message,
and he's such a free spirit, and he breaks down stigmers,
and he has a little bit of game play in
there too, and I think that's such a great message
for everyone else.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
So I want Louis Bears to.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
In before you both go. The question that I ask
everyone who joins the pod is what is something from
behind the scenes, something that we as an audience did
not see, we will not see, kind of like a
behind the scenes secret of what it was like to
be a big brother for you guys. And please don't
tell me that everyone got along or that you guys
were starving, because we do know those ones. But Grazie Maye, what.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Have you got?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I don't. I mean, there's things I would love to
say to add some context, but to keep it above board.
This is delusion, by the way, But I think I
was big brothers, I think, and he would call me
to that die room every morning, and I'd be filthy
because I'd just woken up. But I don't think I
(36:09):
was his favorite. We got on like a house on fire.
I think he needed some tissues when I left. That's
my little behind the scenes and delusion. But I think
he had a little soft spot for me, and I
think in some of the tasks and challenges where people
got absolutely annihilated, I think he went a little bit
easier on me. Love You, Big Brother.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
That's the red coupling. If this was Love Island, Gracie
may Re couples with Big.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Brother, it'll be a twist.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Just tell us what he looks like when you finally
meet him, because I'm dying tonight.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, I'm going to have to TJ.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Do you have a secret for us? If you've got
something you could get out of your bag once you've
gone through your contract, Is there anything that you can tell.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I just think that maybe, just like personality, you don't
see a lot of personality from certain people.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Who was the most robbed then, like, who would you
say had a personality inside the house that we maybe
didn't get the right interpretation.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'd almost say me, Yeah, I'd almost say me. I
capt myself as a bit of an alaric and like,
really Jovi. You just carefree and you know, say stupid
things and have good conversations. And I don't think you
saw much of that at all, which is disappointing, but
that's okay. You've got to see one of my other
great attributes, which is kissing girls. But other than that, Yeah,
there's just so many little bits that you think will
(37:23):
be in the show. So it's interesting to see when
you watch the show, what is at what they actually
put in there.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I'm still dirty. On episode one, how funny was that
they were like, they gave you the ultimate twist of
picking these doors and introducing housemates, and it was like,
we got to meet two housemates, and then Sonya Krueger
was like, and then we put seven people in there somehow,
And I was like, that's that's a three hour episode
you just put into thirty seconds. I was like, you
just missed some really good content.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Yeah, absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That was interesting to see actually, because I know that
people were a little bit confused as it started to
come out, because in the first few episodes is when
they put our little intros in people can connect. So
when I was watching it for the first time, I
was like, Hey, where's my intro.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I was really dirty on the whole thing, to be
honest with you. And also there was a lot of
girls that looked the same as well, like the sisters.
Of course they look the same because but I was like,
how many of those veronicas are in there? Because I
was like confused. So I felt like we really did
need to get more bio video time or assembly of
personality so we could really dig in.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Agreed, Agree.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Un Edited Lord of the Rings version would be phenomenal. Guys,
you two should do a podcast together because you're both
so phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I am.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
We would just say that I am. Yeah. I would
listen to it every single day of the week. I
love that you're both so amazing, and John, I is
it root of me to tell you that there's a
root of me to say to them that this has
made my favorite chat out of this?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Not at all? No, this one's going great. Fuck.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yes, what else did you expect from Grace May Andtge
come on an iconic.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Duo and you don't see any of it, but TJ
and I in the house like to band to banter.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
My biggest fear was I was going to get on
this and I was like, I'm so excited to meet
Gracie May. And then imagine if you came on and
you were like, no, Grace May, tell us something funny. No, No, I'm.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
The same in any situation. That's probably and probably to
the producer's benefit. What you see is what you get.
And I was fried in the audition and I was
fried in the house and I'll ride.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Afterwards if you had Gracie May, it's just just before
you go, I have to ask you this, if you
could do more reality TV, what would it be?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
This is interesting. I this is so dumb. I In fact,
I said it in my audition. I was like, listen,
this is my foot in to go on the bake Off.
And I can't even let that be known. I can't
fucking bake. But I would do Big Brother again and
again and again, and anythink without a love twist. Chuck
me in, Just chuck me on TV. It's where I
(39:54):
meant to be and meant to entertain. I'm sure. Yeah,
the sky's the limit.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
What was really funny was that when I was watching
the show, there's someone who is quite famous who you
remind me of a lot, and that's Angie Kent who
was the Bachelorette, and she was one of the bachelottes,
so go and google google her because she's a winner.
But yeah, I would say you could do the Bachelorette.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, no, I've got no riars. Like you said, you
chuck me in the House of Love. I'm in there
on that.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Now that they do the Bachelor's the two of you
should do that show, just the two of you, A
boy girl bachelor with the two of you so we
can unpack, you know, you guys get to date fifteen people.
That's my jam, and then group imagine that you've got
fifteen suitors and then the two of you leave the
show together. Thank you so much for being so generous
with your time and talking to me. It means a lot.
(40:46):
Enjoy chatting to the media and all the podcasting super
fans and all of those people out there. You both
are a joy to watch and I am in your
fucking audience.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Benji a light.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Get us back again and again and again.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Get me back on.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I'm ready to go next week instead of eliminated housemates,
whoever comes out next, I'll have you guys again.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Listen to in the best dress.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's fine.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
We've canceled the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, no, I'm not allowed to talk to them after
this chat.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
We'll just rock paper scissors for the one hundred.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Grand and then Big brother will give me the second chance.
When I lose the Rock paper.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Scissors, big brothers back next year if he doesn't put
you back into that house as a time warp. How
funny would that be. They're like, Oh, I'm going to
time walk back, and then you just walk straight in.
Give the people what they want, girl, it needs to happen.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I mean, I'm sure i'd get booted off immediately. There's
no strategy in this. There's a monkey clucking up here.
There's nothing there.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I love it. Al righty guys, I'm gonna let you go,
but thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I'll chat then you're a freaking lad.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Thanks mate, Yeah, be good.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
I'll try