March 20, 2025 • 25 mins
Hi Guys, welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking or downloading on today’s episode with Laura. The latest eliminated Australian Survivor player. (Who I have to say I had been really enjoying this season.)
This fifth week of the competition we saw another original 'brains' player being booted and we are going to get some hot takes on Laura’s blindside and also unpack this weeks tribal councils.
- Laura will talk about that her relationship with Zara and Logan and what she thinks of their this game play.
- Laura will share her thoughts on the moves that may upset you as a player but then you may respect as you join the jury,.
- I will find out about Laura’s super power - being a 'witch' and what we didn’t see with some of her interactions with the other castaways.
- You will get everything from Laura take on the the jungle rat, how she bonded with Myles and what she thinks is coming up in the next few weeks?
There is so much to talk about with so many inside revelations. So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of Australian Survivor. Which is back this week on Sunday night on Network Ten.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast Last Weep That Light. Hey guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Laura, the
latest eliminated Australian Survivor player, who I'm going to say
I have been, I had been, I should say, really
enjoying the season. The fifth week of the competition, we
saw another Original Brains player being booted, and we're going
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to get some hot takes on Laura's blindside and also
talk about this week's tribal councils. Laura will talk about
her relationship with Sarah and Logan and what she really
thinks of their gameplay. Laura will share her thoughts on
the moves that may upset you in the Game of
Australian Survivor, but then you may respect as you join
the jury. I will dive deep into Laura's superpower, which
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is how I describe it, being a witch, and what
we didn't see with some of her interactions with the
other castaways. You will get everything from Laura's take on
the Jungle Rat, how she bonded with Miles, and what
she really thinks is coming and what she thinks is
come up up in the next few weeks. There's actually
so much to talk about, with so many inside revelations,
(01:06):
So guys sit back and relax as we unpack the
wonderful world of Australian Survivor, which is back this Sunday
night on Network ten. I have to say also, I
just loved the idea of the white Witch, like I
loved your theme, like your character build. As soon as
I heard about that. That was my pull through for
this season.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Did you approach the audition process by saying I am
a white Witch and this is what I'm going to
bring to the show, Like, how did that work? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, in my audition video that's the first thing I said.
But I'm a witch. I read taro, I read ours,
I read palms. I wanted to use a word that
would be a little bit polarizing, but also a word
that's been used against women for a really long time,
a word that has a negative connotation against women that
I can like change the narrative, which is people that
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just view the world a different way. But for women
in the past, that was here and it was used
against them. So I really wanted to change that kind
of narrative and also, yeah, do something a little bit
polarizing that could grab people's attention and have something that
someone could root for.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
There's something really powerful in reclaiming titles that have been
associated incorrectly for so long. You know. I noticed that
in Melbourne with Pofdorf. My mum from a different generation,
was like, no, that's a negative and I was like, no, Mum,
We've reclaimed that, you know, And I think that's something
that you were trying. That's what you're getting at Ryan.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Oh, for sure. And it's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
As soon as you know the cast got released, that
stigma came straight back and it's the first thing anybody
could say was, you know, all of these negative things
about being a witch and the negative connotations that had
in history are still very much alive today. And I
really like that I can change the narrative of what
a witch can look like, what a witch can sound like,
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and we're just people that view the world in a
really magical way. And yeah, I'm really proud to change
that and push that and hopefully someone can watch and go,
maybe I'm a witch too, And all that means is
that you're interested in curious in the world around you
and how it works.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You would have had to have been really happy with
your introduction, Like when they showed your bio video. I remember,
you know, the storyline was happening, and then it was like,
you know, I'm a white witch and just I don't know.
I was like, yes, queen, like yeah, so here for this.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I was really scared that I would come across kookie
and that I'll come across kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But I loved that actually my reads.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Were making other people look cookie and crazy because the
way that they presented it was like, this is the
right kind of intuition, and my reads on people were accurate,
and so I really liked the way the story was
told was that my intuition was true and it was
I wasn't cookie and I wasn't crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
You know, I kind of wanted it. I kind of
felt like it was going to be used more. I
mean sort of see your intuition working well and you
were on the money when it came to reading some
people's personalities. Did you think it was going to be
shown more on the show, like what was happening in
Fiji at the time, were you still doing what you
were doing in the original episodes where you were reading
people and a bit more.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I was, yes, I did lots of like palm readings
and or readings for people. I talked about it kind
of enough, and when I found the information that I
eventually told Zara, you know, I was talking about my manifesting.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I constantly was talking about my reads of people.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But I understood for the story how it presented the
character and then grew and I wasn't always this heart led,
intuition based person. That I could show my strategy mind
and I could show how I really wanted to play
with the game. So I was really happy with how
my intuition was shown on the show. It was shown
and then it was acknowledged and it was understood, and
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then I could grow.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You were put into a bit of a bind though
a couple of times, and Zara's name is linked to that.
It's funny that you're talking about an intuition, because you
might have trusted her a little bit more than you
should have. But the thing that really surprised me about
your personality was that you did trust your instinct that
you thought you could bond with this woman she let
you down time and time again. But yet instead of
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throwing the you know, the toys out of the cot,
we watched you, almost in real time, try and process
your own emotions and not let this whole thing undo
your game. I thought that was really interesting to watch.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Zara and I have a great relationship. We get along
so well, and on Brain's two point zero, we were
not joking when we said the bronze weren't talking to
us for a good amount of time, like it was
just Zara and I in the shelter talking for days.
And I feel like I really got to know her.
And what I didn't anticipate when I told her the
information was that she would have.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
The same reaction that I had, which was get me
off here.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Self preservation just kicked in and we both just were
doing everything we could to get out of there. And
she's a lawyer. She just did a better job at
pitching her case. She has a law degree. Sorry, and
I think that I should have realized that she was
going to have the same instinct that I did, but
I saw her more as the level headed one between us,
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so I thought that we'd be able to talk it through.
But in that moment, I was just thinking about myself.
I was just thinking about self preservation and so was she.
So we just it was a bad roil between us
that she definitely won. I think that my reads of
Zara were accurate to a point, and then it got
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to it then depended on what she wanted to move
forward with. I think that she did want to work
with me, but I didn't know at the time she
had other options as well. So you only know what
you know in the moment. I know the person in
front of me, but I don't know the connections that
they have.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
If that makes.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Sense, it makes sense. The only thing was that I
was curious about how when did a dawn on you
that you were going to be blindsided? Because I mean,
you were blindsided. I don't know if the audience felt
like you were blindsided, but yeah, you definitely.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I was absolutely blindsided. I think the plan on Logan
and I had been in works for a lot longer
than what was shown. Clearly, we were this big target
duo all the way from the beginning of Tribe Swap.
The plan sorry, it had been on us for a
really long time, and so the narrative that was constantly
pushed to me was that they wanted to get rid
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of AJ and Miles, and then Miles did that crazy thing,
and this is just adding to the wanting to get
rid of Aj and Miles. So I think if I
clocked on way too late because it started two weeks beforehand,
three weeks beforehand, sure that that was all that.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Was being fed to me.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You can see in my brain last night, I'm trying
to count the numbers, trying to figure out have I
done enough not to be the split? Can I can't
now convince Logan out of playing her idol? Can I
convince her to play it?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
For me?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I was well and truly blindsided. And that's the props
to the people around me for not only lying to
me in the scramble in the moment, but for three
weeks beforehand.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It does make me wonder whether or not Logan would
be next to our list, or is she going to
go after another duo? You know what I mean? Like
I feel like she's on a wall path to separate
people who almost think that there'd be damage left behind
with Logan. Hmm, so maybe it's best to just nip
her next. What would you foresee happening?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
As soon as I left, I thought, Okay, I think
the Logan needs to join the bottom of another duo
and become a desperate number for another duo because she's
lost her number and now everybody else is outnumbered. There
are all two votes and she's now one. So I
think she needs to do a poorly and plead to
another duo to become the bottom of that group. That's
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what my instinct would tell me that she would probably do.
Self preservation, got to do something, and I hope that
she can find a way to become a desperate number
for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That's what I would do. If Logan had left and I.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Had stayed, I probably would have tried to plead my
case to someone saved me the way that you know
Mile saved Paulie, and.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Use me, you know, before I move away from the
tribal council completely. The comments online about you not acknowledging
the people as you walk past, a lot of people
thought that that was a choice. Do you regret that,
you know? Do you regret walking past them? Because I
felt like you picked up the pace within steps, like
you might have walked past them, but by the time
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you had your torch I could see you had some
kindness and understanding about what had happened, But what's it
like for you to watch something like that?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I think in the moment, I was just well and
truly blindsided. And you can see me looking left and right,
trying to talk to my allies, so my so called
allies as to who they voted for, and I really
I didn't understand how that had happened. So I was
I was angry, I was annoyed, and I don't regret
not hugging each and every single one of them because
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I didn't want to. In the moment, they just burnt me.
I hugged Logan clearly because you know we're together, but
I turned around, I say, have fun, guys. I know
that I'm going to be on that jury bench the
next tribal council. I know that I'm going to see
them again, and I'll have another opportunity to talk to
them all eventually. So no, I don't regret not hugging
off of them. I wanted to send a message that
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you've just pissed off. You know, the first jur are
so you better provide a show.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I will turned around because you know JLP announced that
you were the first person you know, on the on
the jury, and I was like, I said to my partner,
did he just say that she's the first person? I
was like yes. I was like so excited about you
being there because I felt like, if anyone in this
season has enough information to really size up what everyone
else has been doing on this chaotic season, it is you.
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You know, you have been burnt by people, but you're
also a rational thinker. I felt like I could guarantee
myself that I knew that when you go to tribal council,
you would be a fair person to put together the facts.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yes, I'm a very understanding person. I understood in the
moment why Kuren told Logan to play a idol. It
made total sense to me. It made total sense to
me why Zara did what she did. It all makes
logical sense, even if it doesn't benefit me. So I
was so proud to be the first member of the
jury and to make sure that everybody that comes in
after me isn't going to vote for the soul survivor
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in the end with any bias or anything that you
know they've done to them in the game. This is
a game, and I Love Survivor. So I was so
proud to be the first member of the jury and
to really be able to spearhead.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
The vote in the end of who wins Soul Survivor.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I like idea, if you're moving, welcoming everyone, you know,
you get to be controlling a narrative, and the person
who makes it first does get the opportunity to one
by one collect everyone yes and control a narrative. If
you're smart, is it fair to say that the things
that you probably frustrate you and eliminate you from the
show by the time you get to the jury become
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the things that you have to then celebrate.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Of course, of course.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Being blindsided is a great way to go out, but
it also allows me to understand that this is a
game and that everything that happens in it is going
is leading up to, you know, a final Soul Survivor.
It's all the things that happen to you are the
things that make somebody else's game great, you know, And
we have to understand.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
As a jury that it actually.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Has nothing to do with us, and this is all
a narrative that someone's going to say back that they
were able to get me out, that my name is
on their resume, and I have to separate my emotional
feelings from that to understand that that's a really good move,
that that's a good move for them, and if they
can explain it back to me as to why it's
a good move for them, then they have my boat.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I don't know if I can get you on speed,
my friend, but I could deal with you in my life,
like I think, I saw it on the show and
I see it in you now. I think that you
have a really strong understanding of people, but I think
you have a malleable way of understanding your own emotions
as well, And that's highly intelligent behavior and would be
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super amazing to have for your friends.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Thank you. I really appreciate that. That's really really kind
I go.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Into every interaction, every friendship with the best intentions and
always trying to support the people around me, So I
really appreciate that that you can see that that that
got represented. That's really kind of you to say thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Do you think that Logan and Zara a little bit
too feisty this season? There's that kind of feeling that
those two are probably surviving because of that feisty nature,
but some people have come on the exit interviews and
said that Logan can be quite difficult and if she
didn't like you, she really didn't like you. And I
think some people have sort of alluded to the same
thing that Zara, What is your read on those two girls.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I think that being a woman playing Survivor is a
really interesting thing because you can be strong and you
can be opinionated, but that doesn't as a fan, that
can be seen as feisty, and that can be seen
as mean, and we are just doing our best. We
all have one goal out there and that self preservation.
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That is to get to the end. And it's their
strong mentality has gotten them where they are right now,
which is just further.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
In the game than you know, everybody else, so I think.
But however they are.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Trying to survive is working for them. There's such a
negative connotation to the word feisty. I love feisty women.
I love strong women. I love bossy women because they
know exactly what they want. There's a difference between being
bossy and being a dickhead. And I think that I
love women who are not afraid to go after what
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they want. And if there's any place in the whole world,
to be feisty, to be opinionated. It's playing this game
now is when they are allowed to voice their opinions,
when they're allowed to say that they're not happy with something,
because it's their game. This is five hundred dollars at
the end, and they can do whatever they want to
get there. And I respect wholeheartedly the way that they
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both are playing.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
What did I say?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think you said five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But yeah, imagine playing this game four five hundred dollars.
Do you think people? Absolutely not. You know that this
season is quite messy, and I would say this is
one of the messyc since we've seen in a while.
Even watching the show last night, I was thinking to myself,
I didn't even know who I'm going for anymore. I
don't even know who the who is winning anymore. I'm like,
everyone's a hot mess except for Miles, and he's a
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bit He could be a little bit unlikable at times.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Sure, I think this season is coming across a little
bit messy because we all have very deep and rich
connections to each other. I think that this cast has
bonded so well and so from what I've heard, more
than other casts, and I think that we all just
have really great connections to each other in bizarre, weird ways.
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How Aj and Kate are such great friends is fascinating
to me, and we kind of Zara and I we're
quite close.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So I think that these really phenomenal, bizarre relationships can't
get shown in you know, three episodes a week, So
it's coming across as people are working with random people,
but you're not seeing that three hour conversation where they've
for life.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And I think that we are very close as a cast,
and that's now coming across as everyone's working with everyone
and no one really knows what they're working with because
at the time, we had such special connections to each
and every person that there were many paths forward for
a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It does seem like for me, it's shaping up for
a season about the Jungle Rat. How is it that
someone who could be so I don't know what the
right word is for it, but like so obviously villainous
and so obviously in control of their game and maybe
a little bit smarter than everyone. Why is that person
still in the game, as.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Miles says, well, well the jungle rat does is the
jungle rat survives. I think that that's funny that you
say that, because Miles's name has been written down more
than anybody else in this entire season so far. I
think that he has the jungle rats found a way
to kind of scurry through, to always push a bigger
target in front of himself.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's worked for him up until now. I think that.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
He he's formed connections with everybody in different ways as
a malleable number.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
People did for him what he did for Pauli, which is.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Recognized that he is a number that people can use,
and he's just done a good job of always being.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So far on the bottom that is no longer a threat.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is he someone that you would be friends within the
real world?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I adore Miles and we have hung out a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
He is.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
What we have in common is our love for survivor.
We talk about survivor constantly. I love the way that
he thinks about the world, which is from a hyperlogical place,
which I don't always and so I rely on friends
like him to remind me that we're on this big,
floating rock.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And yeah, He's a great person.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Someone I never ever would have met outside of this game,
but someone that is very a great friend.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I just want to ask you, because you're such a
Survivor fan, who's your favorite strand Survivor player. That's a
really good question, you know, Like from a Survivor fan
to another, I'm like, I just want to know.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Myles and I really bonded over our love for Eden
from Titans Versus Rebels. We thought that he played the
game in a similar way that we wanted to, which
was hyperlogical but also with a lot of varying social tactics.
I really adore Eden as a player. I think that
he was gone before his time and he could have
done extremely well who else.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
He's also a really lovely person in real life. I
met him many times. I also loved his fan service
of you know, the Gladiator references instead of rude to
his movie, buff movie, something so intoxicating about his time.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, he was true to who he was.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
He was an obvious fan out there and used it
to his advantage. I think at every turn in Eden's game,
he was doing the right thing, and that's a hard
thing to say for any Survivor player. I don't know
many other Survivor players that were always doing the right thing.
Even Queen Hayley was voted out and got a chance
to come back. So I think that Eden probably has
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played one of the best games in terms of always
being on the right side of what was happening.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, I no, I agree. You know, I'm running out
of time and I wanted to do like just a
couple just I will just ask one question to recoup
the week, because we are talking about three episodes, so
I get the luxury of talking to you about this
week's episodes. You know, it's really interesting the way that
PD left the series, because it looked to me it
felt like he needed to go because of his accident,
but somehow it was turned into a TV moment within
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that tribal council. What was your read on that? Did
you think PD? They needed PD to go and they
magically turned that into a TV I don't know, Like,
what's your on his exit?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I understand where that comes from. I throughout PD's name
because he was positioned so well.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
All of the brawn two point zero.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Brains in AJ, Karen, and Logan all wanted to work
with Kristin and PD was Kristen's buddy, so without any work,
PD came into a majority.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
He was absolutely so well positioned.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
All of the brain two point zeros in Morgan and
Kate wanted and Jesse wanted to work with PD. He
was so cushy and because of his injury, he wasn't
a threat to anyone for winning any individual immunity. So
he was the perfect person to take to the end
because he couldn't win so like and I couldn't win
any individual immunities. I mean, so I thought that he
was a really good buddy to break up first, because
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he was playing a brilliant game. He was always on
the right side of what was happening. He's really logical,
and I wanted I threw out his name because he
was very very well positioned. Kristin and PD were very
very safe and cushy and always had all of the information.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
It did seem like he was going to be a
boring exit, that's what all I could see. I was like, Oh,
he's going to have to go because he's hurt himself,
and then ended up being the best tribal council this season.
I mean, from my opinion, I'm not saying it was
the best tribal council. But it certainly was like a moment,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
It was And in the moment, it was a moment
or what is happening?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
And at the time as it was happening, it kind
of didn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But when we landed back on the beach, it made
total sense to me.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
While why Miles would do that and save poorly because
it made sense for Miles to get out PD for
the same reasons it made sense for me to get
out PD. Sure, and Miles just had the advantage to
do it. I just didn't have the numbers. The reason
I back down is because I didn't have the numbers.
I didn't have that advantage. I mean, there were only
three votes in the end on PD, so I didn't
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have the numbers to continue with that plan. But it
made total sense to me why it happened like that.
But god, it was shocking. He did not see that coming.
And then when he said he could steal an idol,
I went, oh, my god, are you going to take logans?
Are you going to take logans?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
What's like?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
It was a whirlwind of an experience and shocking in
the moment, I can promise you that I.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Thought he should have taken Logans, like Logans was more hidden,
you know what I mean, Like I thought, you know,
made more sense to go for it. Maybe he didn't
truly believe she had it. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I yeah, I think that in moment, you can see
how easy it was to get a whole tribe against
Logan and I it was no convincing, but it took
a lot of convincing to get people onto PD, which
shows just how well positioned PD was. So I understand
why he took Christen's and went for PD instead of
taking Logans, because as you can see, it was quite
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easy to take logans.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Anyway, Before you go, the last question ask everyone is
what is something from behind the scenes, something we might
not have got a chance to see. And this is
always a hard one because with a strain and survivor,
we really don't want to give away anything, you know
what I mean. Like, so I wanted to ask you
which tribal council for you in real time was the
most challenging.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Of course, when I told Zara my information and then
we both had to picture as to why we wanted
to go over to the other side. That was challenging
on a personal level of you know, I don't think
I can out talk.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
This amazing woman.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I think that Also the tribal council where Max went home,
I had fought all afternoon for Max to stick with
the brains and he just didn't want to work with Miles.
And if I had known about his idol, I know
I could have sent one of the Brauns home on
one vote. That was a really hard afternoon for me personally,
because I was fighting so hard to keep myles in line,
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to get Zara to stick with me, to get Max
not to flip to.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
The Braunze, to make sure my name didn't come up,
which didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
All three other Brains' names came up except for mine
that afternoon, So I really that afternoon was full of work.
I did not stop talking the entire time, trying to
convince people. And if only they I'd known about Max's idol.
That tribal council was shocking, and at that tribal council
I realized just how in the firing line I could
have been.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I didn't expect Max to go.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Home, No, I do, really, And what a disappointing thing
for him to go home with these little Whilst you
may not have won this series, much like Eden, I
think you have slipped into a fan favorites category by
being authentically yourself and being good television. I think you
lived up to the idea of getting cast on Survivor
and doing a good job, but also transcending to the audience.
(24:05):
So I think that's a congratulations.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I really appreciate that that's here, That's the real dream
come true. That's all you can ask as a Survivor
fan is that the other fans recognized that you did
the best that you could.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So thank you. I really appreciate that. That means a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
You think you don't want to waste it if you
get there, you know what, right, Yeah, may.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
As well make some good TV and may as well
just do everything that you can go guns blazing.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So thank you. I really appreciate that. That really means
a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I just never forget me screaming at my TV when
you were doing the challenge and they you know, you
just had this thing happen Mazzara and she yelled at off.
So you've been telling everyone you know, and I was
just like.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Oh, I said back to that, I said, no, they
made their own opinions. They formed their own opinions on
what happened last night. I didn't have to say anything. Yeah,
winning that pass start was that was a really cool moment.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
It was good TV. You enjoy chatting to the Survivor
universe because I guarantee you they're all much like me,
very excited to have a chance to talk to you today,
and good luck with it.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Thank you so much, you're so so lovely to chat.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
That's really great. I'll tell my brother's partner Holly that
I've spoken to you.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Please please tell her to introduce yourself if she sees
me down the streets.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
If you're walking down the street, amazing, look after yourself,
Take care well.
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast Last Weep That Light. Hey guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Laura, the
latest eliminated Australian Survivor player, who I'm going to say
I have been, I had been, I should say, really
enjoying the season. The fifth week of the competition, we
saw another Original Brains player being booted, and we're going
(00:22):
to get some hot takes on Laura's blindside and also
talk about this week's tribal councils. Laura will talk about
her relationship with Sarah and Logan and what she really
thinks of their gameplay. Laura will share her thoughts on
the moves that may upset you in the Game of
Australian Survivor, but then you may respect as you join
the jury. I will dive deep into Laura's superpower, which
(00:45):
is how I describe it, being a witch, and what
we didn't see with some of her interactions with the
other castaways. You will get everything from Laura's take on
the Jungle Rat, how she bonded with Miles, and what
she really thinks is coming and what she thinks is
come up up in the next few weeks. There's actually
so much to talk about, with so many inside revelations,
(01:06):
So guys sit back and relax as we unpack the
wonderful world of Australian Survivor, which is back this Sunday
night on Network ten. I have to say also, I
just loved the idea of the white Witch, like I
loved your theme, like your character build. As soon as
I heard about that. That was my pull through for
this season.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Did you approach the audition process by saying I am
a white Witch and this is what I'm going to
bring to the show, Like, how did that work? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, in my audition video that's the first thing I said.
But I'm a witch. I read taro, I read ours,
I read palms. I wanted to use a word that
would be a little bit polarizing, but also a word
that's been used against women for a really long time,
a word that has a negative connotation against women that
I can like change the narrative, which is people that
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just view the world a different way. But for women
in the past, that was here and it was used
against them. So I really wanted to change that kind
of narrative and also, yeah, do something a little bit
polarizing that could grab people's attention and have something that
someone could root for.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
There's something really powerful in reclaiming titles that have been
associated incorrectly for so long. You know. I noticed that
in Melbourne with Pofdorf. My mum from a different generation,
was like, no, that's a negative and I was like, no, Mum,
We've reclaimed that, you know, And I think that's something
that you were trying. That's what you're getting at Ryan.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Oh, for sure. And it's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
As soon as you know the cast got released, that
stigma came straight back and it's the first thing anybody
could say was, you know, all of these negative things
about being a witch and the negative connotations that had
in history are still very much alive today. And I
really like that I can change the narrative of what
a witch can look like, what a witch can sound like,
(02:52):
and we're just people that view the world in a
really magical way. And yeah, I'm really proud to change
that and push that and hopefully someone can watch and go,
maybe I'm a witch too, And all that means is
that you're interested in curious in the world around you
and how it works.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You would have had to have been really happy with
your introduction, Like when they showed your bio video. I remember,
you know, the storyline was happening, and then it was like,
you know, I'm a white witch and just I don't know.
I was like, yes, queen, like yeah, so here for this.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I was really scared that I would come across kookie
and that I'll come across kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But I loved that actually my reads.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Were making other people look cookie and crazy because the
way that they presented it was like, this is the
right kind of intuition, and my reads on people were accurate,
and so I really liked the way the story was
told was that my intuition was true and it was
I wasn't cookie and I wasn't crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
You know, I kind of wanted it. I kind of
felt like it was going to be used more. I
mean sort of see your intuition working well and you
were on the money when it came to reading some
people's personalities. Did you think it was going to be
shown more on the show, like what was happening in
Fiji at the time, were you still doing what you
were doing in the original episodes where you were reading
people and a bit more.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I was, yes, I did lots of like palm readings
and or readings for people. I talked about it kind
of enough, and when I found the information that I
eventually told Zara, you know, I was talking about my manifesting.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I constantly was talking about my reads of people.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But I understood for the story how it presented the
character and then grew and I wasn't always this heart led,
intuition based person. That I could show my strategy mind
and I could show how I really wanted to play
with the game. So I was really happy with how
my intuition was shown on the show. It was shown
and then it was acknowledged and it was understood, and
(04:45):
then I could grow.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You were put into a bit of a bind though
a couple of times, and Zara's name is linked to that.
It's funny that you're talking about an intuition, because you
might have trusted her a little bit more than you
should have. But the thing that really surprised me about
your personality was that you did trust your instinct that
you thought you could bond with this woman she let
you down time and time again. But yet instead of
(05:07):
throwing the you know, the toys out of the cot,
we watched you, almost in real time, try and process
your own emotions and not let this whole thing undo
your game. I thought that was really interesting to watch.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Zara and I have a great relationship. We get along
so well, and on Brain's two point zero, we were
not joking when we said the bronze weren't talking to
us for a good amount of time, like it was
just Zara and I in the shelter talking for days.
And I feel like I really got to know her.
And what I didn't anticipate when I told her the
information was that she would have.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
The same reaction that I had, which was get me
off here.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Self preservation just kicked in and we both just were
doing everything we could to get out of there. And
she's a lawyer. She just did a better job at
pitching her case. She has a law degree. Sorry, and
I think that I should have realized that she was
going to have the same instinct that I did, but
I saw her more as the level headed one between us,
(06:09):
so I thought that we'd be able to talk it through.
But in that moment, I was just thinking about myself.
I was just thinking about self preservation and so was she.
So we just it was a bad roil between us
that she definitely won. I think that my reads of
Zara were accurate to a point, and then it got
(06:29):
to it then depended on what she wanted to move
forward with. I think that she did want to work
with me, but I didn't know at the time she
had other options as well. So you only know what
you know in the moment. I know the person in
front of me, but I don't know the connections that
they have.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
If that makes.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Sense, it makes sense. The only thing was that I
was curious about how when did a dawn on you
that you were going to be blindsided? Because I mean,
you were blindsided. I don't know if the audience felt
like you were blindsided, but yeah, you definitely.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I was absolutely blindsided. I think the plan on Logan
and I had been in works for a lot longer
than what was shown. Clearly, we were this big target
duo all the way from the beginning of Tribe Swap.
The plan sorry, it had been on us for a
really long time, and so the narrative that was constantly
pushed to me was that they wanted to get rid
(07:17):
of AJ and Miles, and then Miles did that crazy thing,
and this is just adding to the wanting to get
rid of Aj and Miles. So I think if I
clocked on way too late because it started two weeks beforehand,
three weeks beforehand, sure that that was all that.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Was being fed to me.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You can see in my brain last night, I'm trying
to count the numbers, trying to figure out have I
done enough not to be the split? Can I can't
now convince Logan out of playing her idol? Can I
convince her to play it?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
For me?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I was well and truly blindsided. And that's the props
to the people around me for not only lying to
me in the scramble in the moment, but for three
weeks beforehand.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It does make me wonder whether or not Logan would
be next to our list, or is she going to
go after another duo? You know what I mean? Like
I feel like she's on a wall path to separate
people who almost think that there'd be damage left behind
with Logan. Hmm, so maybe it's best to just nip
her next. What would you foresee happening?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
As soon as I left, I thought, Okay, I think
the Logan needs to join the bottom of another duo
and become a desperate number for another duo because she's
lost her number and now everybody else is outnumbered. There
are all two votes and she's now one. So I
think she needs to do a poorly and plead to
another duo to become the bottom of that group. That's
(08:34):
what my instinct would tell me that she would probably do.
Self preservation, got to do something, and I hope that
she can find a way to become a desperate number
for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That's what I would do. If Logan had left and I.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Had stayed, I probably would have tried to plead my
case to someone saved me the way that you know
Mile saved Paulie, and.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Use me, you know, before I move away from the
tribal council completely. The comments online about you not acknowledging
the people as you walk past, a lot of people
thought that that was a choice. Do you regret that,
you know? Do you regret walking past them? Because I
felt like you picked up the pace within steps, like
you might have walked past them, but by the time
(09:16):
you had your torch I could see you had some
kindness and understanding about what had happened, But what's it
like for you to watch something like that?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I think in the moment, I was just well and
truly blindsided. And you can see me looking left and right,
trying to talk to my allies, so my so called
allies as to who they voted for, and I really
I didn't understand how that had happened. So I was
I was angry, I was annoyed, and I don't regret
not hugging each and every single one of them because
(09:45):
I didn't want to. In the moment, they just burnt me.
I hugged Logan clearly because you know we're together, but
I turned around, I say, have fun, guys. I know
that I'm going to be on that jury bench the
next tribal council. I know that I'm going to see
them again, and I'll have another opportunity to talk to
them all eventually. So no, I don't regret not hugging
off of them. I wanted to send a message that
(10:05):
you've just pissed off. You know, the first jur are
so you better provide a show.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I will turned around because you know JLP announced that
you were the first person you know, on the on
the jury, and I was like, I said to my partner,
did he just say that she's the first person? I
was like yes. I was like so excited about you
being there because I felt like, if anyone in this
season has enough information to really size up what everyone
else has been doing on this chaotic season, it is you.
(10:30):
You know, you have been burnt by people, but you're
also a rational thinker. I felt like I could guarantee
myself that I knew that when you go to tribal council,
you would be a fair person to put together the facts.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yes, I'm a very understanding person. I understood in the
moment why Kuren told Logan to play a idol. It
made total sense to me. It made total sense to
me why Zara did what she did. It all makes
logical sense, even if it doesn't benefit me. So I
was so proud to be the first member of the
jury and to make sure that everybody that comes in
after me isn't going to vote for the soul survivor
(11:03):
in the end with any bias or anything that you
know they've done to them in the game. This is
a game, and I Love Survivor. So I was so
proud to be the first member of the jury and
to really be able to spearhead.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
The vote in the end of who wins Soul Survivor.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I like idea, if you're moving, welcoming everyone, you know,
you get to be controlling a narrative, and the person
who makes it first does get the opportunity to one
by one collect everyone yes and control a narrative. If
you're smart, is it fair to say that the things
that you probably frustrate you and eliminate you from the
show by the time you get to the jury become
(11:38):
the things that you have to then celebrate.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Of course, of course.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Being blindsided is a great way to go out, but
it also allows me to understand that this is a
game and that everything that happens in it is going
is leading up to, you know, a final Soul Survivor.
It's all the things that happen to you are the
things that make somebody else's game great, you know, And
we have to understand.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
As a jury that it actually.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Has nothing to do with us, and this is all
a narrative that someone's going to say back that they
were able to get me out, that my name is
on their resume, and I have to separate my emotional
feelings from that to understand that that's a really good move,
that that's a good move for them, and if they
can explain it back to me as to why it's
a good move for them, then they have my boat.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I don't know if I can get you on speed,
my friend, but I could deal with you in my life,
like I think, I saw it on the show and
I see it in you now. I think that you
have a really strong understanding of people, but I think
you have a malleable way of understanding your own emotions
as well, And that's highly intelligent behavior and would be
(12:47):
super amazing to have for your friends.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Thank you. I really appreciate that. That's really really kind
I go.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Into every interaction, every friendship with the best intentions and
always trying to support the people around me, So I
really appreciate that that you can see that that that
got represented. That's really kind of you to say thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Do you think that Logan and Zara a little bit
too feisty this season? There's that kind of feeling that
those two are probably surviving because of that feisty nature,
but some people have come on the exit interviews and
said that Logan can be quite difficult and if she
didn't like you, she really didn't like you. And I
think some people have sort of alluded to the same
thing that Zara, What is your read on those two girls.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I think that being a woman playing Survivor is a
really interesting thing because you can be strong and you
can be opinionated, but that doesn't as a fan, that
can be seen as feisty, and that can be seen
as mean, and we are just doing our best. We
all have one goal out there and that self preservation.
(13:48):
That is to get to the end. And it's their
strong mentality has gotten them where they are right now,
which is just further.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
In the game than you know, everybody else, so I think.
But however they are.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Trying to survive is working for them. There's such a
negative connotation to the word feisty. I love feisty women.
I love strong women. I love bossy women because they
know exactly what they want. There's a difference between being
bossy and being a dickhead. And I think that I
love women who are not afraid to go after what
(14:22):
they want. And if there's any place in the whole world,
to be feisty, to be opinionated. It's playing this game
now is when they are allowed to voice their opinions,
when they're allowed to say that they're not happy with something,
because it's their game. This is five hundred dollars at
the end, and they can do whatever they want to
get there. And I respect wholeheartedly the way that they
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both are playing.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
What did I say?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think you said five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But yeah, imagine playing this game four five hundred dollars.
Do you think people? Absolutely not. You know that this
season is quite messy, and I would say this is
one of the messyc since we've seen in a while.
Even watching the show last night, I was thinking to myself,
I didn't even know who I'm going for anymore. I
don't even know who the who is winning anymore. I'm like,
everyone's a hot mess except for Miles, and he's a
(15:12):
bit He could be a little bit unlikable at times.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Sure, I think this season is coming across a little
bit messy because we all have very deep and rich
connections to each other. I think that this cast has
bonded so well and so from what I've heard, more
than other casts, and I think that we all just
have really great connections to each other in bizarre, weird ways.
(15:37):
How Aj and Kate are such great friends is fascinating
to me, and we kind of Zara and I we're
quite close.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So I think that these really phenomenal, bizarre relationships can't
get shown in you know, three episodes a week, So
it's coming across as people are working with random people,
but you're not seeing that three hour conversation where they've
for life.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And I think that we are very close as a cast,
and that's now coming across as everyone's working with everyone
and no one really knows what they're working with because
at the time, we had such special connections to each
and every person that there were many paths forward for
a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It does seem like for me, it's shaping up for
a season about the Jungle Rat. How is it that
someone who could be so I don't know what the
right word is for it, but like so obviously villainous
and so obviously in control of their game and maybe
a little bit smarter than everyone. Why is that person
still in the game, as.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Miles says, well, well the jungle rat does is the
jungle rat survives. I think that that's funny that you
say that, because Miles's name has been written down more
than anybody else in this entire season so far. I
think that he has the jungle rats found a way
to kind of scurry through, to always push a bigger
target in front of himself.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's worked for him up until now. I think that.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
He he's formed connections with everybody in different ways as
a malleable number.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
People did for him what he did for Pauli, which is.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Recognized that he is a number that people can use,
and he's just done a good job of always being.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So far on the bottom that is no longer a threat.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is he someone that you would be friends within the
real world?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I adore Miles and we have hung out a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
He is.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
What we have in common is our love for survivor.
We talk about survivor constantly. I love the way that
he thinks about the world, which is from a hyperlogical place,
which I don't always and so I rely on friends
like him to remind me that we're on this big,
floating rock.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And yeah, He's a great person.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Someone I never ever would have met outside of this game,
but someone that is very a great friend.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I just want to ask you, because you're such a
Survivor fan, who's your favorite strand Survivor player. That's a
really good question, you know, Like from a Survivor fan
to another, I'm like, I just want to know.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Myles and I really bonded over our love for Eden
from Titans Versus Rebels. We thought that he played the
game in a similar way that we wanted to, which
was hyperlogical but also with a lot of varying social tactics.
I really adore Eden as a player. I think that
he was gone before his time and he could have
done extremely well who else.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
He's also a really lovely person in real life. I
met him many times. I also loved his fan service
of you know, the Gladiator references instead of rude to
his movie, buff movie, something so intoxicating about his time.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, he was true to who he was.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
He was an obvious fan out there and used it
to his advantage. I think at every turn in Eden's game,
he was doing the right thing, and that's a hard
thing to say for any Survivor player. I don't know
many other Survivor players that were always doing the right thing.
Even Queen Hayley was voted out and got a chance
to come back. So I think that Eden probably has
(19:02):
played one of the best games in terms of always
being on the right side of what was happening.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, I no, I agree. You know, I'm running out
of time and I wanted to do like just a
couple just I will just ask one question to recoup
the week, because we are talking about three episodes, so
I get the luxury of talking to you about this
week's episodes. You know, it's really interesting the way that
PD left the series, because it looked to me it
felt like he needed to go because of his accident,
but somehow it was turned into a TV moment within
(19:28):
that tribal council. What was your read on that? Did
you think PD? They needed PD to go and they
magically turned that into a TV I don't know, Like,
what's your on his exit?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I understand where that comes from. I throughout PD's name
because he was positioned so well.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
All of the brawn two point zero.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Brains in AJ, Karen, and Logan all wanted to work
with Kristin and PD was Kristen's buddy, so without any work,
PD came into a majority.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
He was absolutely so well positioned.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
All of the brain two point zeros in Morgan and
Kate wanted and Jesse wanted to work with PD. He
was so cushy and because of his injury, he wasn't
a threat to anyone for winning any individual immunity. So
he was the perfect person to take to the end
because he couldn't win so like and I couldn't win
any individual immunities. I mean, so I thought that he
was a really good buddy to break up first, because
(20:25):
he was playing a brilliant game. He was always on
the right side of what was happening. He's really logical,
and I wanted I threw out his name because he
was very very well positioned. Kristin and PD were very
very safe and cushy and always had all of the information.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
It did seem like he was going to be a
boring exit, that's what all I could see. I was like, Oh,
he's going to have to go because he's hurt himself,
and then ended up being the best tribal council this season.
I mean, from my opinion, I'm not saying it was
the best tribal council. But it certainly was like a moment,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
It was And in the moment, it was a moment
or what is happening?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
And at the time as it was happening, it kind
of didn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But when we landed back on the beach, it made
total sense to me.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
While why Miles would do that and save poorly because
it made sense for Miles to get out PD for
the same reasons it made sense for me to get
out PD. Sure, and Miles just had the advantage to
do it. I just didn't have the numbers. The reason
I back down is because I didn't have the numbers.
I didn't have that advantage. I mean, there were only
three votes in the end on PD, so I didn't
(21:29):
have the numbers to continue with that plan. But it
made total sense to me why it happened like that.
But god, it was shocking. He did not see that coming.
And then when he said he could steal an idol,
I went, oh, my god, are you going to take logans?
Are you going to take logans?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
What's like?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
It was a whirlwind of an experience and shocking in
the moment, I can promise you that I.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Thought he should have taken Logans, like Logans was more hidden,
you know what I mean, Like I thought, you know,
made more sense to go for it. Maybe he didn't
truly believe she had it. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I yeah, I think that in moment, you can see
how easy it was to get a whole tribe against
Logan and I it was no convincing, but it took
a lot of convincing to get people onto PD, which
shows just how well positioned PD was. So I understand
why he took Christen's and went for PD instead of
taking Logans, because as you can see, it was quite
(22:19):
easy to take logans.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Anyway, Before you go, the last question ask everyone is
what is something from behind the scenes, something we might
not have got a chance to see. And this is
always a hard one because with a strain and survivor,
we really don't want to give away anything, you know
what I mean. Like, so I wanted to ask you
which tribal council for you in real time was the
most challenging.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Of course, when I told Zara my information and then
we both had to picture as to why we wanted
to go over to the other side. That was challenging
on a personal level of you know, I don't think
I can out talk.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
This amazing woman.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I think that Also the tribal council where Max went home,
I had fought all afternoon for Max to stick with
the brains and he just didn't want to work with Miles.
And if I had known about his idol, I know
I could have sent one of the Brauns home on
one vote. That was a really hard afternoon for me personally,
because I was fighting so hard to keep myles in line,
(23:14):
to get Zara to stick with me, to get Max
not to flip to.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
The Braunze, to make sure my name didn't come up,
which didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
All three other Brains' names came up except for mine
that afternoon, So I really that afternoon was full of work.
I did not stop talking the entire time, trying to
convince people. And if only they I'd known about Max's idol.
That tribal council was shocking, and at that tribal council
I realized just how in the firing line I could
have been.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I didn't expect Max to go.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Home, No, I do, really, And what a disappointing thing
for him to go home with these little Whilst you
may not have won this series, much like Eden, I
think you have slipped into a fan favorites category by
being authentically yourself and being good television. I think you
lived up to the idea of getting cast on Survivor
and doing a good job, but also transcending to the audience.
(24:05):
So I think that's a congratulations.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I really appreciate that that's here, That's the real dream
come true. That's all you can ask as a Survivor
fan is that the other fans recognized that you did
the best that you could.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So thank you. I really appreciate that. That means a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
You think you don't want to waste it if you
get there, you know what, right, Yeah, may.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
As well make some good TV and may as well
just do everything that you can go guns blazing.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So thank you. I really appreciate that. That really means
a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I just never forget me screaming at my TV when
you were doing the challenge and they you know, you
just had this thing happen Mazzara and she yelled at off.
So you've been telling everyone you know, and I was
just like.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Oh, I said back to that, I said, no, they
made their own opinions. They formed their own opinions on
what happened last night. I didn't have to say anything. Yeah,
winning that pass start was that was a really cool moment.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
It was good TV. You enjoy chatting to the Survivor
universe because I guarantee you they're all much like me,
very excited to have a chance to talk to you today,
and good luck with it.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Thank you so much, you're so so lovely to chat.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
That's really great. I'll tell my brother's partner Holly that
I've spoken to you.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Please please tell her to introduce yourself if she sees
me down the streets.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
If you're walking down the street, amazing, look after yourself,
Take care well.
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