March 12, 2025 • 34 mins
Hi Guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I would like to thank you for clicking or downloading on today’s episode with Mzuki, Aaliyah the first two contestants booted from Australian Idol’s top 12.
The competition is really heating up and after a nail biting first week of performances - it was anyone’s guess on who would be sent home. I genuinely think both these girls have something really special and I know you will hear that in my chat today.
- Mzuki will talk about the online trolling and how that affected her time on the show.
- Aaliyah will share how the songs were picked and what the producers wanted her to lean into.
- I find out about the dynamics between this years top 12 and what the girls think of the friendship they now have with the remaining artists left in the competition.
- You will get everything from their thoughts on the judges, if the remaining have the tenacity to match their talent and what part of the singing competition that doesn’t count but leaves the audience knowing what they are missing.
There is so much to talk about with so many inside revelations. So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of Australian Idol which returns this Sunday night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast last.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Week that life.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
thank you for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with
Mazuki Alia, the first two eliminated booted contestants from Australian
Idol's Top twelve. The competition is really heating up and
after a nail biting first week of performances, it was
Anyone's guest on who was going to be sent home.
(00:25):
I genuinely think both of these girls have something really
special and I know that you're going to hear that.
In my chat today, Mazuki will talk about the online
trolling and how that affected her time on the show.
Alia will share how the songs were picked and what
producers wanted her to lean into. I find out about
the dynamics between this year's Top twelve and what the
(00:46):
girls think of the friendship that they now have with
the remaining artists left in the competition. You will get
everything from their thoughts on the judges, if the remaining
artists have the tenacity to match their talent, and what
part of the singing competition that doesn't count. But leaves
the audiences knowing what they're missing. There is actually so
much to talk about, with so many inside revelations as
(01:08):
per usual, So sit back and relax as we unpack
the wonderful world of austrain Idol, which returns this Sunday
night on Channel seven.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh hi Van, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I'm good? Have you been to bed? Live? TV is
a bitch?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh, isn't it? Isn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
No, I'm surprisingly doing quite well considering the outcome.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
My head's pretty highest steels.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Congratulations though, And can I just say I have learnt
from you from watching you and your humble nature, your empathy,
your kindness. I just think, and I'm forty five and
so we're always learning. But I just thought, yeah, dled
that so well?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh thank you? No, that means a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, look I again, like I have to look around
the room and see who I'm up against. And yeah,
like someone had to go home. Unfortunately it was me,
But I can happily look at top ten and go and.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Every one of them deserve that spot. Well.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I can tell you that my partner was still working
last night as the live episode was happening, and I
watched Australian idol, like people watch the Super Bowl a
lot of screaming, a lot of yelling, and he heard
both songs and he said to me, oh, well, you
clearly know who's going to win out of those two girls.
And I was like, no, you don't know. You don't
know anyway, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Not with the public society, and you really never know.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It was shocking. I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No. I appreciate that, thank you, and that support things
means a lot, means you for something in me, So
thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's so strange because this particular season, it looks like
there's a bit of a genuine bond going on with everyone.
Is that manufactured for television or were you all getting
along like a house on fire?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I love this lot off camera, like I have a
genuine connection to these people.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know, we have all bonded so quickly.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I was so fine with the verdict, like not fine,
but I mean excepted my fate being eliminated, and I
had I walked off, you know, with my head held high,
proud of what I had done out there, and I
kept it together until I walked into the room full
of the contestants. The minute I saw all their faces
was just the silence was loud. Everyone just stopped talking
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and we had a little group cuddle. It was that
moment that I saw them and I realized, damn, like,
I don't get to see you guys and spend time
with you guys anymore. That really hit me and the
water work started from there. So it is a genuine
connection with these lots.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's like the movie Speed where Sandra Bullock says relationships
based on in intense situations. On the way she says
in Speed that they don't work out, that's that's a
bad quote. Let's leave that way.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I already yeah, we're already planning trips to go to
peopful states and you know, have a little catch up
after the show, because yeah, I just can't let these
people go. We would just forget that I spent all
this time with them and we experienced things together. Definitely
be making an effort outside of the show to see these.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
People for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
What do you think about the way in which they
split the groups, because like back in the day, we
just had to do like a four hour episode. I mean,
I'm exaggerating because that's me. That's on brand for me.
But like you know, they would put everyone together and
everyone had to sing against each other. But we're splitting
people in a very different strategy. I would say, for
how the episodes rolled out on a Sunday on a Tuesday,
how do you think that that affects the way in
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which people go home? Or do you think it does?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I definitely think that, you know, having the two separate
heat does alter the overall public vote for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I actually didn't know that that's how it went. I
thought that, Okay, I understand that there was Heat one
and Heat two, but I thought when it came down
to the voting that it was everyone overall together.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So that was actually surprise to me to find out that.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
It was split into But well, definitely, I think that
has a lot to do with the results.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And I also think it's interesting because like with the
way in which it happens, you get like a save
me song, but people have already been voting. How much
do you think that saved me song affect the way
in which the outcome was? Do you think that saved
me song factored in? Because in this situation, and I
love both of you girls like I I mean, I've
been rooting for both of you, but it was very
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clear to me that your song was better, which makes
me think, how much does that save me song factor?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
In should be.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Completely straight up with you save me song has absolutely
no bearing on a decision that was already made before
we came out of the stage and saying that saved
me song. So I know it seems a little bit
like pointless in a way, like why would we do.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
A save me song when it doesn't save you?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
But I think if I look at it glass past four,
I was super proud of the performance that I put on,
and it was more so a second opportunity to show
my fans and the public what a great performer I am.
And that performance I feel like, will assistance follow.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Me of my journey outside of the Bible.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Had a role and you went away not you know
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round no one.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Not know because it was one of your best performances.
(07:14):
I mean, I I mean, you never did a bad performance,
if you ask me. Every single time we saw you
come out right from the start, like you know, Angel
of Mine. I think you know, God is a woman.
Oh my god, I can't I can't remember them all
and figured me if you're not remembering them all, But
anytime you came out and sung something, I was like, shit,
this person really has it, Like thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, I think I even knowing that song had no
bearing on the decision that was already made, I still
was going to go out there and give it one
hundreds and ten percent because again I knew it was
just another opportunity to show the public wide I should
support me outside of idle. And you know I was
saying this, but the gross I've made from audition up
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until my last performance, it has been tremendous. I have
improved leaps and bounds, and I'm finding my confidence and
when being on stage, so going out every performance, find
myself getting more and more comfortable, more and more confident.
And I think that was proof of last night's performance.
You know, it's just again another step up, another opportunity
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to perform. And yeah, I was in flight flight broad
you know, I still wanted to fight for that spot
and show people what it should have been me And hear.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
What you're saying, but I honestly would say to you,
you are the type of artists that we will be
talking about in twenty years, Like you are not a
reality TV show artist. If you ask me I genuinely
think there's something very special, Like if you look at
a few of them that have been in IDOL over
the years that don't make it all the way through
the competition, but stay in the chart. That's who you are.
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You're in your bones, like every time you came out
and sound, feel that you're in your bones, Like I
don't have enough that's saying yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, no, I definitely, I definitely feel that. You know,
obviously well, being so new to me, I was like,
oh god, how am I going to go being on
camera and you know, sharing my whole personal life to
the world and playing with a live band the first
time of being on stage and having a spotlight, like
I don't know how to deal with all that, and
to see how naturally it all came to me. It
comes down to as what you said, like it's in
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my bones, within my DNA to do this. I'll hold
on to that for sure, and I'm definitely going to
keep going with music.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I've got a crazy good candise.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I think if you like a Matt Corby, because like
Matt Corby is of course an Australian IDOL, you know, yes,
he's an alumni. Yeah, and you can't take that away
from any of the alumni, but in the same breath
of saying that he went on and transcended beyond it,
And that's kind of where I see your trajectory going.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, no, for sure, and I'll take.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Ricky leeas even a massive insortation for that as well.
You know, obviously she didn't win either, but look at
what she's doing.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
She's better, She's doing better than some of those winners.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So it's just it's it's what I do with this
experience and platform that I've been given is going to
determine my fate moving forward, for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, you shocked by some of the Saves this week
because we've got Marshall and Elish and both of them
are amazing artists in themselves. I mean, it's almost a
personality story going on with them as well. It's not
just a great voice. There's like a full something or
rather going on. Were you shocked by the choices in them?
And do you think that a large part of their
choices in keeping them there is because there is a
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little bit more of a personality story going on.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I actually wholeheartedly agreed with the Saves, both Eilish and Marshall.
I know Marshall was in My Hate and Our Calum
on the bat and said, yeah, like so beal like
they should have picked you, Like he's something very special,
and so is Eilish. I think that performance that she
did the Top twelve was wildly good. I obviously understand
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that having the full package is part of being a star.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You can't be a great performer.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I mean, shit bricks when they were the camera in
front of you, doesn't you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Talk a bit of gray hand in hand.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And I think that both Marshall and Eilish are phenomenal
on an off camera and I don't actually don't think
that their stories or anything had any bearing on them
making it through. I wholeheartedly can say that the performance
is that they put.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
On all well deserved to be pushed through.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Top ten.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I mean there were some moments in Eilish's song where
I was like that that's a choice to how like
that in a song that it really worked. I was like,
I'm it really works. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I love seeing Eilish come alive, like she's so sweet,
she's such a cute opportunity off the camera and on camera,
and then she just her alter ego takes over when
she gets on stage, and I feel really proud of her,
like her young girl to do what she's doing, like
like she deserves that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Is she gonna make it though? Like it? I mean
could she be the person? Because I mean, if you
look at the artists that have survived in Australia, like
Kylie Minogue will tell you the historian, there's tenacity and
there's talent, and Kylie talked about the tenacity of being
able to ring people, put tracks down and never give up.
Like a large part of being a successful artist is
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not winning a reality competition or is not having a
number one single. Is the phone calls that you make
off the back of that. I mean there's something in
this figure as well, do you know what I mean?
Like you want to put that work in? Can I
lash do that? I mean, is she going to be
able to pick up those calls and fight for it?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I think if I was telling the right team behind her.
Obviously she's quite young, you know, she's probably wouldn't even
know what direction what road to take, you know, So
I think if she's got the right team behind her,
because there's definitely.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
An audience for her out there.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, they love her.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You know, it is justinitely an audience.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
But I think being so young, she wouldn't even have
a clue what direction to go. So I think with
the right team behind her, she could do really, really
great things.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
She's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And the last thing I was going to ask you
about in regards to this competition was about the song choices.
The song choices for me are really interesting. So these
the songs that you would put out, is this the
artist that you are? Were you happy with the way
in which you could choose these songs or are these
songs kind of attributed to you?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Good question, So I would say that, yeah, I would
say my picks that I've done on the show are
a very good representation of maybe half of the artist
that I am. I am sing the show really wanted
to sort of tap into that old school ninetieth R
and B vibe, which is absolutely part of me.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That is like, that is still a part of you.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yes, that's on my playlist. That's what I'm Jemmy in
a card to his old school R and B.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
That's what I grew up around my parents from lasting
two back and stuff on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So that is.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Absolutely my vibe. I feel like there was my other
more modern R and B that I would have probably
loved to show.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A bit more.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I did gul a taste of that when I got
in the Weekend pull out my Name, So that was
really fun when I did that song. But I definitely
probably would have loved to showcase my other R and
B side, the more modern R and B side, because
I do both.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Of course you do. I mean I think that call
out my Name by the Weekend, I think is when
you transcended with the audience. And I think that there
is something about singing something current. You know, you have
to work twice as hard on an older song because
for starters, sending office time after time is such an
iconic song. We are attributing how that song sounds that way,
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and that doesn't a use song. It in some ways
better than she ever did. But that's a really hard
space to be in, do you know what I mean? Like,
that's a really hard space when you're working with older
tracks versus stuff that's very you know now.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, And you're gonna upset someone out there.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You're gonna upset someone when you put your flip on it.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And I respect that, and you know, I try to
respect the integrity of the song as much as possible,
but faking it my own as well.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
But yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's those old school classics that people have loved over
the years and got used to the way that that sounds.
So when you put your own little pin on it,
sometimes it's not received well. But I don't know if
that had a bearing on my outcome. So I can
look back at my performance and I personally think that
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I did a really good job and that that was
one of my best performances. I'm just every week coming
more and more out of my shell and feeling more
and more comfortable on that stage.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Now, I helped you mat of.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
The broken place you gave me.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
For you.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
List a boot you won't up, A boot.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
You won't up.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I claims, you're so proud and no.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
To come in.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
I kid you, so tell me want I pt you.
I want it, OK, I can't.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I love.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I loved it. I'm just gonna tell you right now,
I'm in your audience. I think there's a lot of
people watch the show that are in your audience, Like
this is just the start. This is like a jumping
off point this.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Is like you, Oh, thank you so much. That means
the world. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Just like going to the pool and not wanting to
dive in, but then just taking a small dive and
then at the end winning, Yeah, picks. That's the vision board.
That's where we're going. You know, before I let you go,
I have to ask you this question, which is what
I ask everyone who runs the podcast, and that is
something of what is a behind the scenes moment? And
is it really hard to do with these behind the
scenes moment of what you're allowed to say? But is
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there What I'm interested in asking you is when you
look back at this experience, what do you think is
the moment? Like we all look back at experiences, whether
it's high school, a job that we've had, and there's
a moment that we go that's sort of what we remember.
What do you think in ears to come that you'll
look back at and think that was my idle experience
sort of summed up at that moment.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Oh, I think the goal of a ticket moment for
me was such such a shot. I really did not
think that I was going to get through, and it
was almost like that validation that I needed. And that's
that was the beginning of that self doubt slowly fading away.
From that day, that self doubt just slowly started fading
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and I became more and more. I came into myself.
I found myself, you know. But that moment was the
start of finding myself. So I'll hold on to that,
you know, for sure. And having having all three judgers
give me yesters and also walk out to come and
tell my family and friends that I got three yesters
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like that was a standout moment for me as well,
because they don't get up out of their seeks to
walk out with every contestant, so that was.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Very, very near and dear to me.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I was like, oh, okay, I've impacted them in a
way that I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Even imagine, Like it's happening. Yeah, it's happening. Yeah, that's
who unfold baby.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Girls. I just want to say thank you so much
for being so generous and talking to me today. You know,
I really have enjoyed watching you on this show. I
think you've done such a fantastic job. Yeah, and I
can't wait to see what you do with this whole thing.
I think it's going to be quite exciting.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh, thank you so much. The pleasure talking to you.
Thank you for your kind words, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Your HiPE girl. Just call me when if you wake
up any day of the week, any day of the
week and you're having a bad day, slide into the
DMS and I'm just like, whoop, whoop ah.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
My head's my head's so big. After the conversation, how dare.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You What a fabulous chat I had with a liar?
Some really good insights there, I'm sure. Now we are
going to unpack the Australian Idol journey with Mazuki, who
I'm sure is going to also have some pretty exciting
tales to tell. Hi.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Ben, how's it going.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm good mate, how are you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Good?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Thank you congratulations on making it into the Australian Idol
Top twelve. I don't think it would be the same
thing if it wasn't for your contribution. I'm just going
to say that, Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's really sweet. I really appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's it's a really hard thing as an artist to
be able to sing the sort of music that you sing.
I'm just going to say that because I'm in awe
of anyone that can speak that fast, let alone wrap
that fast. And even try and find your breath. Oh
my life, they told me that awarded. She can't sing.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
We hate rap.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Katrine's talk big, don't shine, don't speak Your better shrink
is she's talking on the mic like she's not even singing.
I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Where to tell?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Then?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I hate the accident.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Who let the tall ben?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
How does she get in?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I hate rapping, just hate the same believe.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
In the kids.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
What's an age were you when you realize that you
could do something like this?
Speaker 5 (20:38):
That wasn't even my fastest rapping that was honestly.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh they turned you down?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Oh yeah, no, do a lot more than that. But
I'm very grateful for the comment.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Just a long time of practice and dedication to the craft.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Really, I mean, it's such a huge accomplishment to get
onto a show like this. Are you Are you still
processing the whole experience because that was a live episode
last night. That's very hard to do live TV because
then you're processing everything in real time with the rest
of Australia. What is your head doing today, my friend?
Speaker 5 (21:13):
I know it definitely was a big shot to the
system for sure, but you know, I'm very grateful for
what I've done I'm proud of being able to be
the first person globally to crack the top twelve without
seeing a single note and being able to showcase wrap
deserve the place, and just showcase diverse voices and diverse genres.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You know, what did you think of this experience in
this in the sense of, like what you thought it
was going to be? Like, you're a very soulful person,
You're a very like what's the best way to describe it,
Like you're connected to the universe in a way that
I think other people are not. And so when you
are connected to the universe the way that you are,
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did you have a feeling of how this would all go?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
That's a great point.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I definitely was guided to come onto the show how
it was going to play out. I wasn't really concerned about.
I knew that I was being guided to apply and
I was guided to do what I've done. So how
the kind of cards fall isn't really up to me.
It's more so about me just doing what I'm told
(22:19):
to do. And I think I've said what I needed
to say, and I think it's just the beginning and
then maybe like a ripple effect beyond what I've done
so far on the stage.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's interesting because, like you know, if you're reading cards,
if you're doing that kind of stuff, it's one power,
but then you've also got this music power. Do these
two coexist in a weird way?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Like? Are you?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Can you bring those as soon as we saw you,
when we saw your story? These are the questions that
I wanted to know. I'm like, do these go hand
in hand in some way?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I mean, I think that my spiritual journey and my
musical journey are inextricably linked, and that as I grow
as an artist, and as I grow spiritually, I grow
as an artist, and as I grow as an artists
need to reach more people with my message. And I
think the two are very linked. And I'm teen to
see how it continues to play out.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And like, I know a lot of people that are
in that sphere, and they talk about not necessarily knowing
or predicting or understanding their own journey where that's going
to go, but then they can do it with other people.
If that's true. Did you meet the top twelve the
other eleven? And are you do you have an idea
where you think this is going to go? That's what
I want to know.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Yeah, look, I do have an idea of where I
do like where I do think it's going to go
in terms of the competition, but I'll keep that word
on the hush.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I didn't want to look at this article. By the way,
there's an article that was out yesterday. I don't want
to click on it because I do not want anything
to take away from my idle journey. There was an article, yes,
so it says the winner is basically revealed, and I
was like, this is a live TV show, no one
knows anything. People could fall down, you know, fall off
the stage and knock the two front teeth out, Like
you don't know who's going to win.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Yeah, no, definitely, No, I haven't actually seen that article.
That's that's the curious one. But honestly, I think it's
beyond who wins or you know, how it kind of
plays out. I think we've had such an amazing group
of talent this year, so I'm excited for everyone's individual journeys.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Really, it's interesting as well about this show. It's a
very tough job to sign up and be a judge.
To be on that panel, I think would be very
hard because They've got a very tough job to do.
You know, you can't just turn up and be like
that was beautiful, do you know what I mean? You
need to have some criticism, You need to have some
color in what you're offering these young people. What was
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your relationship with Kyle Sandalans, Marsha Hines and Amy Shark,
Like do you think that they're doing a great job
and do you think that they represent sort of the
faces or the powers that be that need to be
offering criticism.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Honestly, I've loved my interaction with the judges. I think
the judges know what they're talking about. I think that
they can see they know, they know about the music industry,
and they can see like what is going on. So
I think they are a good panel. Amy obviously, she's
killing it in her own field, and she's like current
touring musician who's like doing such amazing thing, so she
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kind of understands what it takes to be in the
music industry. And speaking with her has been really great
just because I think she gets me sort of level
of life. And then Marsha is so needed. She's an
absolute legend, and I think she's like even to have
like this powerful like woman black woman as well, who's
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just been in the industry for so many years, and
I think she stands by herself in that lane where
we don't really have any other black women that are,
you know, in that sort of position. So she's just
a testament and an inspiration, honestly, I think. So she's
very powerful to have up there. And then Kyle as well,
he's right there with the times. You know, he's got
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his on the radio. He's in touch with what's happening
and what the current trends are. And I think that's why,
you know, I've gotten a lot of support from him,
because he is in touch with the culture globally with
music and you know, like you know, wrap and hip
hop and R and B, and he gets it. So
it's good to just have someone who just gets it
so you don't have to kind of like explain yourself.
(26:12):
It's like you just understand what you're doing and can
see how that's going to play out on like the
world stage and globally. So it's great to have him
there and have your support as well.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
They all sort of represent different things as well, like
you know, you're being given sort of some lessons, some
guided lessons throughout what they've been able to offer you.
There was a few times where they talked about people
saying negative things online.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
I loved it as well. And guess what, I know
a little bit about having haters. Yeah, yes, I do.
You know what. I enjoyed that you you use that
hate and you did a little rap about it. But
this is what I was told years and years ago
because I used to obsess over the haters. Why don't
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they love me? I can't understand it. I really couldn't
understand it. They don't get me. Do they have been
listen to even know what I do? And then I realized, Oh,
they're just winkers at home that have got nothing better
to do. Because I thought, who wouldn't have haters?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Right?
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Who are three people that might not have haters? Jesus,
Beyonce and Ronald McDonald. Guess what, there's multiple hate sites
about all those three people. So you have to be
a hated and loved to be anything that anyone even notices. Well,
so take that and ride with it. You did an
amazing dress.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know, to me, you don't really strike me as
the sort of person that's going to read the comment
section or let something like that bother you. But what
is your relationship with Australian Idol being Like, considering that
you do get people commenting, you do get people saying
their opinions online, how did that affect your Idle journey?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I think to comment, like, there's been so much overwhelming support,
and I'll start there, like, I've been so grateful for
the amount of people who have directly reached out, just
supporting and encouraging me and being so happy to see
something different on the idol stage. And teach who work
with kids who don't necessarily resonate with idle and like
the regular idle format, but the kids who would like
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resonated with Wrap and they're like, that's actually cool. I
can get behind that. So that was really cool that
I'm impacting people who aren't necessarily the demographic of Idle viewers.
But then it's also very also disheartening to read some
of those, especially on Facebook a lot of the comments,
and there just seems to be this kind of underlying
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just with the older generation, of underlying kind of like
slight racism and sexism that's there, and that's quite sad
to see.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And I think maybe that's also not your platform as well.
Like Facebook's kind of like a weird place, right, been
around for a long time, telling people that are left
there are these weird boomers that are like right, right,
and they don't represent the wider community. They're the minority.
The minority is in Facebook now, and I would hope
to believe the minority are the sorts of people that
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have a picture of a crow or a cat and
jump online and have something to say about a young,
beautiful artist like you.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yeah, no, definitely, And I think, you know, I've been
guided into this space and I think, you know, me
showing up in my full authenticity and not hiding myself
and just being who I am, and you know, being
put into these people's faces is also powerful because it
needs to be known that, you know, Australia, we're a
diverse community. And I mean, I'm second generation Australian, but
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we're a diverse community, and there's different voices that also
need to be in these mainstream spaces. And you know,
if I can be that person to inspire the kids
that look like me who don't necessarily get to see
that celebrated as much, I mean, that's just powerful in itself,
and you know, being able to speak my truth on
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that world like for that idle stage is just really powerful.
And I hope that it shifts the culture forward to
towards more acceptance of diverse voices, more celebration of diverse
talent as well, especially women, you know, just building each
other up.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I could imagine you going to schools and singing and performing.
I honestly think you have a lot to offer young
people in your learnings and your findings. I think there's
something in that. I mean, yes, a music artist you know,
would love to sell out arenas, but I genuinely think
that there's something a little deeper than you that's also
very inspiring. And your ability to use your voice and
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articulate yourself is quite amazing, and young people need that.
Young people need to feel inspired and to see that
they can do it.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
And I think there's been so many people and people
have even interacted with in person, who have said, you know,
that they've stopped pursuing their dreams because people like bullied
them in high school and like they wanted to be
a singer, and they post that then people would pick
on them and say that they stuck, you know, and
like really bully them, and that literally talked them out
(31:03):
of them pursuing that as of air dream. And I
think that that's really disheartening. But also it's important to
have voices that amplify hey, follow your dreams despite no
matter what other people think of that, and just stand
in your power and stay true to yourself in whatever
space that you want to pursue, no matter what that is.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, I agree. You know, when you are in a
bottom two scenario and we sort of bottom falls scenario technically,
but you're in a subsection of the bottom two, do
you feel in that moment like you know what the
outcome is going to be. That's what I always think.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I didn't know how it was going to go. I
think once I was up there with Jisella, I was like, okay,
I know that. I mean the bottom two, Like it's like,
you know, I was just like, girl, you are so
undeniably going through and so undeniably talented. I mean the
whole thing. I didn't think that that was how going
to go.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So it was a bit shocking for me to kind
of process everything.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
But I think that it's gone how it was meant
to go, And you know, I've done what I was
meant to do on the show. You know, if I
would guided to just come out there and you know,
crack Top twelve, get to you know, write my own
wrap and flip that negativity into positivity and inspire people.
I think that's my job done well.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I think that there's lots of spaces and places that
you're going to find yourself in, you know, with an
open heart and open mind and a brilliant singing voice,
like I think, you know, it's up to you where
you want to take this.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Yes, one hundred percent. Now, there's definitely somewhere else that
I'm being guided towards. So I'm going to continue on
the journey and trust that path.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Well before you go. The last thing I ask everyone
is what is something from behind the scenes? And I
was wondering for you behind the scenes question is how
the hell do you manage to get a good pop
song and put your own words into it? What is
the process like in being able to work faster? These
other artists are just singing a song that you know,
some of them have been around for a very long time.
(33:02):
Where you're remastering, which is very clever, you know, are
you in that room longer with the coaches trying to
work out how to do it.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I'm definitely doing it by myself. I've been songwriting and
producing and you know, rapping, singing, I play guitar, like,
I've been an artist for a long time, so I'm
like a very seasoned artist. So that was kind of
effortless to me, Like I mean that, laughs up. I
think I channeled down and wrote in like five or
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ten minutes. So it just comes down to that's just
who I am as an artist, and I got to
I'm grateful that I got to showcase a little bit
of my artistry. I think that's also something that I
was there to do was to change hearts in mind
as opposed to.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Win the show.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
It's more so, okay, let me showcase wing change for
some halfs of minded people who are never going to
see someone like me other than me being on the
show for them, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And beyond of course, yeah, it's the there's something more.
There's a higher power to you, I think, And I
just want to say thank you for being so generous
and unpacking your idle journey with me this morning, because
I have really enjoyed watching you on the show, and
I can't wait to see what you want to do
with this. You know, I think that there's a lot
of opportunity there for you. But but yeah, thank you
so much.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
It's such such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
It's been actually so beautiful to chat with you.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
It's been it really great, was really great, decent passion session.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah that's what I want. I'm like, But what a
joy that I even am allowed to do this with you.
I mean, I was last night on my couch screaming
and yelling at Austrayan Idol and then now I'm talking
to you today. It is quite amazing. It's quite amazing
for me because I'm in your audience.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I know, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
It's been an absolute pleasure to chat with you.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Ben Cheers by
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast last.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Week that life.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
thank you for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with
Mazuki Alia, the first two eliminated booted contestants from Australian
Idol's Top twelve. The competition is really heating up and
after a nail biting first week of performances, it was
Anyone's guest on who was going to be sent home.
(00:25):
I genuinely think both of these girls have something really
special and I know that you're going to hear that.
In my chat today, Mazuki will talk about the online
trolling and how that affected her time on the show.
Alia will share how the songs were picked and what
producers wanted her to lean into. I find out about
the dynamics between this year's Top twelve and what the
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girls think of the friendship that they now have with
the remaining artists left in the competition. You will get
everything from their thoughts on the judges, if the remaining
artists have the tenacity to match their talent, and what
part of the singing competition that doesn't count. But leaves
the audiences knowing what they're missing. There is actually so
much to talk about, with so many inside revelations as
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per usual, So sit back and relax as we unpack
the wonderful world of austrain Idol, which returns this Sunday
night on Channel seven.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh hi Van, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I'm good? Have you been to bed? Live? TV is
a bitch?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh, isn't it? Isn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
No, I'm surprisingly doing quite well considering the outcome.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
My head's pretty highest steels.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Congratulations though, And can I just say I have learnt
from you from watching you and your humble nature, your empathy,
your kindness. I just think, and I'm forty five and
so we're always learning. But I just thought, yeah, dled
that so well?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh thank you? No, that means a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, look I again, like I have to look around
the room and see who I'm up against. And yeah,
like someone had to go home. Unfortunately it was me,
But I can happily look at top ten and go and.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Every one of them deserve that spot. Well.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I can tell you that my partner was still working
last night as the live episode was happening, and I
watched Australian idol, like people watch the Super Bowl a
lot of screaming, a lot of yelling, and he heard
both songs and he said to me, oh, well, you
clearly know who's going to win out of those two girls.
And I was like, no, you don't know. You don't
know anyway, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Not with the public society, and you really never know.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It was shocking. I'm shocked.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No. I appreciate that, thank you, and that support things
means a lot, means you for something in me, So
thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's so strange because this particular season, it looks like
there's a bit of a genuine bond going on with everyone.
Is that manufactured for television or were you all getting
along like a house on fire?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I love this lot off camera, like I have a
genuine connection to these people.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know, we have all bonded so quickly.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I was so fine with the verdict, like not fine,
but I mean excepted my fate being eliminated, and I
had I walked off, you know, with my head held high,
proud of what I had done out there, and I
kept it together until I walked into the room full
of the contestants. The minute I saw all their faces
was just the silence was loud. Everyone just stopped talking
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and we had a little group cuddle. It was that
moment that I saw them and I realized, damn, like,
I don't get to see you guys and spend time
with you guys anymore. That really hit me and the
water work started from there. So it is a genuine
connection with these lots.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's like the movie Speed where Sandra Bullock says relationships
based on in intense situations. On the way she says
in Speed that they don't work out, that's that's a
bad quote. Let's leave that way.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I already yeah, we're already planning trips to go to
peopful states and you know, have a little catch up
after the show, because yeah, I just can't let these
people go. We would just forget that I spent all
this time with them and we experienced things together. Definitely
be making an effort outside of the show to see these.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
People for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
What do you think about the way in which they
split the groups, because like back in the day, we
just had to do like a four hour episode. I mean,
I'm exaggerating because that's me. That's on brand for me.
But like you know, they would put everyone together and
everyone had to sing against each other. But we're splitting
people in a very different strategy. I would say, for
how the episodes rolled out on a Sunday on a Tuesday,
how do you think that that affects the way in
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which people go home? Or do you think it does?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I definitely think that, you know, having the two separate
heat does alter the overall public vote for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I actually didn't know that that's how it went. I
thought that, Okay, I understand that there was Heat one
and Heat two, but I thought when it came down
to the voting that it was everyone overall together.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So that was actually surprise to me to find out that.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
It was split into But well, definitely, I think that
has a lot to do with the results.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And I also think it's interesting because like with the
way in which it happens, you get like a save
me song, but people have already been voting. How much
do you think that saved me song affect the way
in which the outcome was? Do you think that saved
me song factored in? Because in this situation, and I
love both of you girls like I I mean, I've
been rooting for both of you, but it was very
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clear to me that your song was better, which makes
me think, how much does that save me song factor?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
In should be.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Completely straight up with you save me song has absolutely
no bearing on a decision that was already made before
we came out of the stage and saying that saved
me song. So I know it seems a little bit
like pointless in a way, like why would we do.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
A save me song when it doesn't save you?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
But I think if I look at it glass past four,
I was super proud of the performance that I put on,
and it was more so a second opportunity to show
my fans and the public what a great performer I am.
And that performance I feel like, will assistance follow.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Me of my journey outside of the Bible.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Had a role and you went away not you know
(06:37):
round no one.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Not know because it was one of your best performances.
(07:14):
I mean, I I mean, you never did a bad performance,
if you ask me. Every single time we saw you
come out right from the start, like you know, Angel
of Mine. I think you know, God is a woman.
Oh my god, I can't I can't remember them all
and figured me if you're not remembering them all, But
anytime you came out and sung something, I was like, shit,
this person really has it, Like thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, I think I even knowing that song had no
bearing on the decision that was already made, I still
was going to go out there and give it one
hundreds and ten percent because again I knew it was
just another opportunity to show the public wide I should
support me outside of idle. And you know I was
saying this, but the gross I've made from audition up
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until my last performance, it has been tremendous. I have
improved leaps and bounds, and I'm finding my confidence and
when being on stage, so going out every performance, find
myself getting more and more comfortable, more and more confident.
And I think that was proof of last night's performance.
You know, it's just again another step up, another opportunity
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to perform. And yeah, I was in flight flight broad
you know, I still wanted to fight for that spot
and show people what it should have been me And hear.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
What you're saying, but I honestly would say to you,
you are the type of artists that we will be
talking about in twenty years, Like you are not a
reality TV show artist. If you ask me I genuinely
think there's something very special, Like if you look at
a few of them that have been in IDOL over
the years that don't make it all the way through
the competition, but stay in the chart. That's who you are.
(08:50):
You're in your bones, like every time you came out
and sound, feel that you're in your bones, Like I
don't have enough that's saying yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, no, I definitely, I definitely feel that. You know,
obviously well, being so new to me, I was like,
oh god, how am I going to go being on
camera and you know, sharing my whole personal life to
the world and playing with a live band the first
time of being on stage and having a spotlight, like
I don't know how to deal with all that, and
to see how naturally it all came to me. It
comes down to as what you said, like it's in
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my bones, within my DNA to do this. I'll hold
on to that for sure, and I'm definitely going to
keep going with music.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I've got a crazy good candise.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I think if you like a Matt Corby, because like
Matt Corby is of course an Australian IDOL, you know, yes,
he's an alumni. Yeah, and you can't take that away
from any of the alumni, but in the same breath
of saying that he went on and transcended beyond it,
And that's kind of where I see your trajectory going.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, no, for sure, and I'll take.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Ricky leeas even a massive insortation for that as well.
You know, obviously she didn't win either, but look at
what she's doing.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
She's better, She's doing better than some of those winners.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So it's just it's it's what I do with this
experience and platform that I've been given is going to
determine my fate moving forward, for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, you shocked by some of the Saves this week
because we've got Marshall and Elish and both of them
are amazing artists in themselves. I mean, it's almost a
personality story going on with them as well. It's not
just a great voice. There's like a full something or
rather going on. Were you shocked by the choices in them?
And do you think that a large part of their
choices in keeping them there is because there is a
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little bit more of a personality story going on.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I actually wholeheartedly agreed with the Saves, both Eilish and Marshall.
I know Marshall was in My Hate and Our Calum
on the bat and said, yeah, like so beal like
they should have picked you, Like he's something very special,
and so is Eilish. I think that performance that she
did the Top twelve was wildly good. I obviously understand
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that having the full package is part of being a star.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You can't be a great performer.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I mean, shit bricks when they were the camera in
front of you, doesn't you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Talk a bit of gray hand in hand.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And I think that both Marshall and Eilish are phenomenal
on an off camera and I don't actually don't think
that their stories or anything had any bearing on them
making it through. I wholeheartedly can say that the performance
is that they put.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
On all well deserved to be pushed through.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Top ten.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I mean there were some moments in Eilish's song where
I was like that that's a choice to how like
that in a song that it really worked. I was like,
I'm it really works. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I love seeing Eilish come alive, like she's so sweet,
she's such a cute opportunity off the camera and on camera,
and then she just her alter ego takes over when
she gets on stage, and I feel really proud of her,
like her young girl to do what she's doing, like
like she deserves that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Is she gonna make it though? Like it? I mean
could she be the person? Because I mean, if you
look at the artists that have survived in Australia, like
Kylie Minogue will tell you the historian, there's tenacity and
there's talent, and Kylie talked about the tenacity of being
able to ring people, put tracks down and never give up.
Like a large part of being a successful artist is
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not winning a reality competition or is not having a
number one single. Is the phone calls that you make
off the back of that. I mean there's something in
this figure as well, do you know what I mean?
Like you want to put that work in? Can I
lash do that? I mean, is she going to be
able to pick up those calls and fight for it?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I think if I was telling the right team behind her.
Obviously she's quite young, you know, she's probably wouldn't even
know what direction what road to take, you know, So
I think if she's got the right team behind her,
because there's definitely.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
An audience for her out there.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, they love her.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You know, it is justinitely an audience.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
But I think being so young, she wouldn't even have
a clue what direction to go. So I think with
the right team behind her, she could do really, really
great things.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
She's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And the last thing I was going to ask you
about in regards to this competition was about the song choices.
The song choices for me are really interesting. So these
the songs that you would put out, is this the
artist that you are? Were you happy with the way
in which you could choose these songs or are these
songs kind of attributed to you?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Good question, So I would say that, yeah, I would
say my picks that I've done on the show are
a very good representation of maybe half of the artist
that I am. I am sing the show really wanted
to sort of tap into that old school ninetieth R
and B vibe, which is absolutely part of me.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That is like, that is still a part of you.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yes, that's on my playlist. That's what I'm Jemmy in
a card to his old school R and B.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
That's what I grew up around my parents from lasting
two back and stuff on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So that is.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Absolutely my vibe. I feel like there was my other
more modern R and B that I would have probably
loved to show.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A bit more.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I did gul a taste of that when I got
in the Weekend pull out my Name, So that was
really fun when I did that song. But I definitely
probably would have loved to showcase my other R and
B side, the more modern R and B side, because
I do both.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Of course you do. I mean I think that call
out my Name by the Weekend, I think is when
you transcended with the audience. And I think that there
is something about singing something current. You know, you have
to work twice as hard on an older song because
for starters, sending office time after time is such an
iconic song. We are attributing how that song sounds that way,
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and that doesn't a use song. It in some ways
better than she ever did. But that's a really hard
space to be in, do you know what I mean? Like,
that's a really hard space when you're working with older
tracks versus stuff that's very you know now.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, And you're gonna upset someone out there.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You're gonna upset someone when you put your flip on it.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And I respect that, and you know, I try to
respect the integrity of the song as much as possible,
but faking it my own as well.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
But yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's those old school classics that people have loved over
the years and got used to the way that that sounds.
So when you put your own little pin on it,
sometimes it's not received well. But I don't know if
that had a bearing on my outcome. So I can
look back at my performance and I personally think that
(15:24):
I did a really good job and that that was
one of my best performances. I'm just every week coming
more and more out of my shell and feeling more
and more comfortable on that stage.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Now, I helped you mat of.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
The broken place you gave me.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
For you.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
List a boot you won't up, A boot.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
You won't up.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I claims, you're so proud and no.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
To come in.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
I kid you, so tell me want I pt you.
I want it, OK, I can't.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I love.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I loved it. I'm just gonna tell you right now,
I'm in your audience. I think there's a lot of
people watch the show that are in your audience, Like
this is just the start. This is like a jumping
off point this.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Is like you, Oh, thank you so much. That means
the world. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Just like going to the pool and not wanting to
dive in, but then just taking a small dive and
then at the end winning, Yeah, picks. That's the vision board.
That's where we're going. You know, before I let you go,
I have to ask you this question, which is what
I ask everyone who runs the podcast, and that is
something of what is a behind the scenes moment? And
is it really hard to do with these behind the
scenes moment of what you're allowed to say? But is
(17:32):
there What I'm interested in asking you is when you
look back at this experience, what do you think is
the moment? Like we all look back at experiences, whether
it's high school, a job that we've had, and there's
a moment that we go that's sort of what we remember.
What do you think in ears to come that you'll
look back at and think that was my idle experience
sort of summed up at that moment.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Oh, I think the goal of a ticket moment for
me was such such a shot. I really did not
think that I was going to get through, and it
was almost like that validation that I needed. And that's
that was the beginning of that self doubt slowly fading away.
From that day, that self doubt just slowly started fading
(18:17):
and I became more and more. I came into myself.
I found myself, you know. But that moment was the
start of finding myself. So I'll hold on to that,
you know, for sure. And having having all three judgers
give me yesters and also walk out to come and
tell my family and friends that I got three yesters
(18:38):
like that was a standout moment for me as well,
because they don't get up out of their seeks to
walk out with every contestant, so that was.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Very, very near and dear to me.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I was like, oh, okay, I've impacted them in a
way that I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Even imagine, Like it's happening. Yeah, it's happening. Yeah, that's
who unfold baby.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Girls. I just want to say thank you so much
for being so generous and talking to me today. You know,
I really have enjoyed watching you on this show. I
think you've done such a fantastic job. Yeah, and I
can't wait to see what you do with this whole thing.
I think it's going to be quite exciting.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh, thank you so much. The pleasure talking to you.
Thank you for your kind words, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Your HiPE girl. Just call me when if you wake
up any day of the week, any day of the
week and you're having a bad day, slide into the
DMS and I'm just like, whoop, whoop ah.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
My head's my head's so big. After the conversation, how dare.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You What a fabulous chat I had with a liar?
Some really good insights there, I'm sure. Now we are
going to unpack the Australian Idol journey with Mazuki, who
I'm sure is going to also have some pretty exciting
tales to tell. Hi.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Ben, how's it going.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm good mate, how are you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Good?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Thank you congratulations on making it into the Australian Idol
Top twelve. I don't think it would be the same
thing if it wasn't for your contribution. I'm just going
to say that, Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's really sweet. I really appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's it's a really hard thing as an artist to
be able to sing the sort of music that you sing.
I'm just going to say that because I'm in awe
of anyone that can speak that fast, let alone wrap
that fast. And even try and find your breath. Oh
my life, they told me that awarded. She can't sing.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
We hate rap.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Katrine's talk big, don't shine, don't speak Your better shrink
is she's talking on the mic like she's not even singing.
I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Where to tell?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Then?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I hate the accident.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Who let the tall ben?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
How does she get in?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I hate rapping, just hate the same believe.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
In the kids.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
What's an age were you when you realize that you
could do something like this?
Speaker 5 (20:38):
That wasn't even my fastest rapping that was honestly.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh they turned you down?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Oh yeah, no, do a lot more than that. But
I'm very grateful for the comment.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Just a long time of practice and dedication to the craft.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Really, I mean, it's such a huge accomplishment to get
onto a show like this. Are you Are you still
processing the whole experience because that was a live episode
last night. That's very hard to do live TV because
then you're processing everything in real time with the rest
of Australia. What is your head doing today, my friend?
Speaker 5 (21:13):
I know it definitely was a big shot to the
system for sure, but you know, I'm very grateful for
what I've done I'm proud of being able to be
the first person globally to crack the top twelve without
seeing a single note and being able to showcase wrap
deserve the place, and just showcase diverse voices and diverse genres.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You know, what did you think of this experience in
this in the sense of, like what you thought it
was going to be? Like, you're a very soulful person,
You're a very like what's the best way to describe it,
Like you're connected to the universe in a way that
I think other people are not. And so when you
are connected to the universe the way that you are,
(21:55):
did you have a feeling of how this would all go?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
That's a great point.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I definitely was guided to come onto the show how
it was going to play out. I wasn't really concerned about.
I knew that I was being guided to apply and
I was guided to do what I've done. So how
the kind of cards fall isn't really up to me.
It's more so about me just doing what I'm told
(22:19):
to do. And I think I've said what I needed
to say, and I think it's just the beginning and
then maybe like a ripple effect beyond what I've done
so far on the stage.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's interesting because, like you know, if you're reading cards,
if you're doing that kind of stuff, it's one power,
but then you've also got this music power. Do these
two coexist in a weird way?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Like? Are you?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Can you bring those as soon as we saw you,
when we saw your story? These are the questions that
I wanted to know. I'm like, do these go hand
in hand in some way?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I mean, I think that my spiritual journey and my
musical journey are inextricably linked, and that as I grow
as an artist, and as I grow spiritually, I grow
as an artist, and as I grow as an artists
need to reach more people with my message. And I
think the two are very linked. And I'm teen to
see how it continues to play out.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And like, I know a lot of people that are
in that sphere, and they talk about not necessarily knowing
or predicting or understanding their own journey where that's going
to go, but then they can do it with other people.
If that's true. Did you meet the top twelve the
other eleven? And are you do you have an idea
where you think this is going to go? That's what
I want to know.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Yeah, look, I do have an idea of where I
do like where I do think it's going to go
in terms of the competition, but I'll keep that word
on the hush.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I didn't want to look at this article. By the way,
there's an article that was out yesterday. I don't want
to click on it because I do not want anything
to take away from my idle journey. There was an article, yes,
so it says the winner is basically revealed, and I
was like, this is a live TV show, no one
knows anything. People could fall down, you know, fall off
the stage and knock the two front teeth out, Like
you don't know who's going to win.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Yeah, no, definitely, No, I haven't actually seen that article.
That's that's the curious one. But honestly, I think it's
beyond who wins or you know, how it kind of
plays out. I think we've had such an amazing group
of talent this year, so I'm excited for everyone's individual journeys.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Really, it's interesting as well about this show. It's a
very tough job to sign up and be a judge.
To be on that panel, I think would be very
hard because They've got a very tough job to do.
You know, you can't just turn up and be like
that was beautiful, do you know what I mean? You
need to have some criticism, You need to have some
color in what you're offering these young people. What was
(24:34):
your relationship with Kyle Sandalans, Marsha Hines and Amy Shark,
Like do you think that they're doing a great job
and do you think that they represent sort of the
faces or the powers that be that need to be
offering criticism.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Honestly, I've loved my interaction with the judges. I think
the judges know what they're talking about. I think that
they can see they know, they know about the music industry,
and they can see like what is going on. So
I think they are a good panel. Amy obviously, she's
killing it in her own field, and she's like current
touring musician who's like doing such amazing thing, so she
(25:10):
kind of understands what it takes to be in the
music industry. And speaking with her has been really great
just because I think she gets me sort of level
of life. And then Marsha is so needed. She's an
absolute legend, and I think she's like even to have
like this powerful like woman black woman as well, who's
(25:31):
just been in the industry for so many years, and
I think she stands by herself in that lane where
we don't really have any other black women that are,
you know, in that sort of position. So she's just
a testament and an inspiration, honestly, I think. So she's
very powerful to have up there. And then Kyle as well,
he's right there with the times. You know, he's got
(25:51):
his on the radio. He's in touch with what's happening
and what the current trends are. And I think that's why,
you know, I've gotten a lot of support from him,
because he is in touch with the culture globally with
music and you know, like you know, wrap and hip
hop and R and B, and he gets it. So
it's good to just have someone who just gets it
so you don't have to kind of like explain yourself.
(26:12):
It's like you just understand what you're doing and can
see how that's going to play out on like the
world stage and globally. So it's great to have him
there and have your support as well.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
They all sort of represent different things as well, like
you know, you're being given sort of some lessons, some
guided lessons throughout what they've been able to offer you.
There was a few times where they talked about people
saying negative things online.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
I loved it as well. And guess what, I know
a little bit about having haters. Yeah, yes, I do.
You know what. I enjoyed that you you use that
hate and you did a little rap about it. But
this is what I was told years and years ago
because I used to obsess over the haters. Why don't
(26:54):
they love me? I can't understand it. I really couldn't
understand it. They don't get me. Do they have been
listen to even know what I do? And then I realized, Oh,
they're just winkers at home that have got nothing better
to do. Because I thought, who wouldn't have haters?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Right?
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Who are three people that might not have haters? Jesus,
Beyonce and Ronald McDonald. Guess what, there's multiple hate sites
about all those three people. So you have to be
a hated and loved to be anything that anyone even notices. Well,
so take that and ride with it. You did an
amazing dress.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know, to me, you don't really strike me as
the sort of person that's going to read the comment
section or let something like that bother you. But what
is your relationship with Australian Idol being Like, considering that
you do get people commenting, you do get people saying
their opinions online, how did that affect your Idle journey?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I think to comment, like, there's been so much overwhelming support,
and I'll start there, like, I've been so grateful for
the amount of people who have directly reached out, just
supporting and encouraging me and being so happy to see
something different on the idol stage. And teach who work
with kids who don't necessarily resonate with idle and like
the regular idle format, but the kids who would like
(28:08):
resonated with Wrap and they're like, that's actually cool. I
can get behind that. So that was really cool that
I'm impacting people who aren't necessarily the demographic of Idle viewers.
But then it's also very also disheartening to read some
of those, especially on Facebook a lot of the comments,
and there just seems to be this kind of underlying
(28:29):
just with the older generation, of underlying kind of like
slight racism and sexism that's there, and that's quite sad
to see.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And I think maybe that's also not your platform as well.
Like Facebook's kind of like a weird place, right, been
around for a long time, telling people that are left
there are these weird boomers that are like right, right,
and they don't represent the wider community. They're the minority.
The minority is in Facebook now, and I would hope
to believe the minority are the sorts of people that
(29:00):
have a picture of a crow or a cat and
jump online and have something to say about a young,
beautiful artist like you.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yeah, no, definitely, And I think, you know, I've been
guided into this space and I think, you know, me
showing up in my full authenticity and not hiding myself
and just being who I am, and you know, being
put into these people's faces is also powerful because it
needs to be known that, you know, Australia, we're a
diverse community. And I mean, I'm second generation Australian, but
(29:30):
we're a diverse community, and there's different voices that also
need to be in these mainstream spaces. And you know,
if I can be that person to inspire the kids
that look like me who don't necessarily get to see
that celebrated as much, I mean, that's just powerful in itself,
and you know, being able to speak my truth on
(29:52):
that world like for that idle stage is just really powerful.
And I hope that it shifts the culture forward to
towards more acceptance of diverse voices, more celebration of diverse
talent as well, especially women, you know, just building each
other up.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I could imagine you going to schools and singing and performing.
I honestly think you have a lot to offer young
people in your learnings and your findings. I think there's
something in that. I mean, yes, a music artist you know,
would love to sell out arenas, but I genuinely think
that there's something a little deeper than you that's also
very inspiring. And your ability to use your voice and
(30:33):
articulate yourself is quite amazing, and young people need that.
Young people need to feel inspired and to see that
they can do it.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
And I think there's been so many people and people
have even interacted with in person, who have said, you know,
that they've stopped pursuing their dreams because people like bullied
them in high school and like they wanted to be
a singer, and they post that then people would pick
on them and say that they stuck, you know, and
like really bully them, and that literally talked them out
(31:03):
of them pursuing that as of air dream. And I
think that that's really disheartening. But also it's important to
have voices that amplify hey, follow your dreams despite no
matter what other people think of that, and just stand
in your power and stay true to yourself in whatever
space that you want to pursue, no matter what that is.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, I agree. You know, when you are in a
bottom two scenario and we sort of bottom falls scenario technically,
but you're in a subsection of the bottom two, do
you feel in that moment like you know what the
outcome is going to be. That's what I always think.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I didn't know how it was going to go. I
think once I was up there with Jisella, I was like, okay,
I know that. I mean the bottom two, Like it's like,
you know, I was just like, girl, you are so
undeniably going through and so undeniably talented. I mean the
whole thing. I didn't think that that was how going
to go.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So it was a bit shocking for me to kind
of process everything.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
But I think that it's gone how it was meant
to go, And you know, I've done what I was
meant to do on the show. You know, if I
would guided to just come out there and you know,
crack Top twelve, get to you know, write my own
wrap and flip that negativity into positivity and inspire people.
I think that's my job done well.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I think that there's lots of spaces and places that
you're going to find yourself in, you know, with an
open heart and open mind and a brilliant singing voice,
like I think, you know, it's up to you where
you want to take this.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Yes, one hundred percent. Now, there's definitely somewhere else that
I'm being guided towards. So I'm going to continue on
the journey and trust that path.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Well before you go. The last thing I ask everyone
is what is something from behind the scenes? And I
was wondering for you behind the scenes question is how
the hell do you manage to get a good pop
song and put your own words into it? What is
the process like in being able to work faster? These
other artists are just singing a song that you know,
some of them have been around for a very long time.
(33:02):
Where you're remastering, which is very clever, you know, are
you in that room longer with the coaches trying to
work out how to do it.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I'm definitely doing it by myself. I've been songwriting and
producing and you know, rapping, singing, I play guitar, like,
I've been an artist for a long time, so I'm
like a very seasoned artist. So that was kind of
effortless to me, Like I mean that, laughs up. I
think I channeled down and wrote in like five or
(33:30):
ten minutes. So it just comes down to that's just
who I am as an artist, and I got to
I'm grateful that I got to showcase a little bit
of my artistry. I think that's also something that I
was there to do was to change hearts in mind
as opposed to.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Win the show.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
It's more so, okay, let me showcase wing change for
some halfs of minded people who are never going to
see someone like me other than me being on the
show for them, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And beyond of course, yeah, it's the there's something more.
There's a higher power to you, I think, And I
just want to say thank you for being so generous
and unpacking your idle journey with me this morning, because
I have really enjoyed watching you on the show, and
I can't wait to see what you want to do
with this. You know, I think that there's a lot
of opportunity there for you. But but yeah, thank you
so much.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
It's such such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
It's been actually so beautiful to chat with you.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
It's been it really great, was really great, decent passion session.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah that's what I want. I'm like, But what a
joy that I even am allowed to do this with you.
I mean, I was last night on my couch screaming
and yelling at Austrayan Idol and then now I'm talking
to you today. It is quite amazing. It's quite amazing
for me because I'm in your audience.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I know, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
It's been an absolute pleasure to chat with you.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
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