February 14, 2025 • 35 mins
Hi Guys, welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking or downloading on today’s episode with Alana McClean… who has more opinions on housewives than Sutton and her mothers opinions on cutely and glassware…combined.
We go deep on the 11th episode of Beverely Hills season 14 which is called Mind Your business which is ironic for Alana and I who have never minded our own business and will tell you an opinion even when you haven’t asked for it.
- We will discuss, the way in which this episode is all about Sutton and how that made is feel by the end of it.
- I will get Alana’s perspective on Suttons mother and if Garcelle should have stuck her nose in the Strat’s business.
- We will address the absence of Jennifer Tilly and if Alana noticed her not being in this episode again.
- You are going to get plenty of chat on Dorit’s drama army and what shift viewer saw in their recent catch up. What we thought of Bozema’s current relationship news about them not saying they love one another and we have an update on Lisa Rinna and Teddy Mellencamp.
- There is so much to talk about with so many inside revelations. So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of the RHOBH season 14!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast plant Beep that wy Hey, guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with Alana MacLean,
who has more opinions on housewives than Sudden and her
mother's opinions on cutlery and glassware combined, we go deep
on the eleventh episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen, which
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is called Mind Your Business, which is ironic for Alana
and I because I have to tell you that we've
never minded our own business and we will tell you
our opinion even when you haven't asked for it. We
will discuss the way in which this episode is all
about Sudden Stratt and how that made us feel as
it took up most of the eleventh episode. I will
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get Alana's perspective on Sudden Strat's mother and if Garcel
should have stuck her nose in the Strats business. We
will address the absence of Jennifer Tilly and if Elana
even noticed that she wasn't in this episode. Again, you
were going to get plenty of chat on Dret's drama
Army and what Shift viewers saw in their recent catch up,
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what we thought of Bozeman's current relationship, news about them
not saying that they love each other but still trying
to have a baby, and we have an update on
Lisa Renner and Teddy Mellencamp. There is actually so much
to talk about with this episode, with so many inside
revelations from our perspective. So guys, sit back and relax
as we unpack the wonderful world of the Real Housewives
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of Beverly Hills Season fourteen, Episode eleven.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We're in pajamas. I'm in ac countlash pajamas.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, someone gave them to me from business class and
they were going to get rid of them because they
had too many pairs, and I was like, no, that'll
be fantastic tanning pajamas.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So you get to see me look at these.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's so spot cheap it, I mean, I'll look fabulous
in about five hours.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'd just like to be here for the marination of
the tan.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Like I just asked, the journey, it's a special journey, Tanny.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I just appreciate as well that we take the opportunity
to record this podcast and do things for our health
and wellbeing. Whilst we're doing it.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
It's like multitasking of the greatest kind self care and
judging people on the Real Housewives.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's one of my favorite things to do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It is Happy Valentine's Day, by the way, or happy
prolonged Valentine's Day to those that celebrate. Some people don't,
but you know, I'm here for the love. The world
needs more love.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Now, I want to ask you something. So I was
having a bit of a fight with someone on a
text message today, someone that I won't mention, but I
went to finish it off by saying happy Valentine's Day. Now,
I want to know, is that condescending?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, unless they're really triggered by if they're.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Like single and they take that as like a dick
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, this person is single, so okay.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I'd probably leave it. Then.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, you know, just stick with.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
The have a good weekend being my advice.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
There, I think you're onto it. Can I also say
thank you for my highlight of my week, which is
a photo of you with a Kathy Hilton hat and
a matching bag. Honestly perfection.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It arrived if you listened to last week's episode. You'll
hear that I ordered one of the Kathy Hilton Lorna
Murray hats, but.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
They didn't have the adult version.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So I ordered a large in the child size hat
and I didn't know if it was going to fit,
and it just fits, and I was so excited because
there was no returns. I was like, this is a
really expensive gamble, but it paid off.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think it looks cute, right.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think we found the sponsor for our podcast, so
we're gonna have to hit them up.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Lornamurray dot com dot I use. She's Australian by the way.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I know she is. I know, let's call it. Let's
get her on the phone.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
She's fabulous.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
She'll be like, no, who are you? People?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
People like it wasn't worth it. Guys went on about
it too much. Hey, this episode was a bit flat.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Hey, well, I don't want to foreshadow my scoreboard, but
I mean, at the end of the day, this episode
was like a sudden backstory, Like it was like a
cuttin spin offs. You know, we really got to go
deep and you and I had mentioned last week we
got a tip of the iceberg when it came to
her opening up and showing us more about her life.
But when we got to the bottom of the iceberg,
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I felt like a bit of an overshare, Like did
we learn too much? Was that okay for television?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
He was suffering from chronic depression. They had on all
these pills just to try to regulate stuff that wasn't working.
He would go on and off of them for years,
and then he would self medicate with alcohol.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It was very heavy and very triggering, and I mean,
I was going to kind of let you lead this
part of the chat because you've had such personal experience
with this, and not to dive into places where you
might not want to go.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But like, how did you feel about watching that?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I felt so emotional, But I also am so protective
because for people listening, I lost my father to sudden death,
and my partner lost his brother to sudden death. And
I think sometimes I feel so protective of Ben that
I put my own emotions to the side. So I
was too busy focused on how Ben was reacting to
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the content, And then when I stopped to think about
it myself, because she was talking about her father, you know,
she kept saying my father, and I kept thinking about
it as well, because I had similar trajectories, like I
remember the last time I saw him. I remember the
last type of physical touch of a goodbye, and that
was very triggering. I'm not to say that the Housewives
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can't delve into this. If that's someone's truth, I guess
it needed to be there. What I'd take brother to
task over is the balancing of this episode. I don't
know if they got that correct, because the whole thing
overall did leave me walking away not how I want
to feel from Housewives, Do you know what I mean?
Like this is my guilty pleasure, This is the space
I go to kind of have a good time. I
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probably don't want to have to have my therapist on
speed dial at the end of no.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And I feel like it was It's such a fine line,
and it's sort of like that Goldilock's analogy where we're like,
we want a little bit of the honesty and the
rawness and the family backgrounds for all these women, but
then it's like this one to your point, it's like, well,
does it cross that line where it becomes too much?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And then we're put off by it and it's not
what we were wanting.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
For that experience, and I sort of felt like, quite
often we've discussed on here about we're not seeing enough
of Sutton's life. A Kyle had a massive dig at
her last reunion because she was like, why are you
having a goal at me? You've shown like your new
horse for one episode and a Cashmere line or whatever
the hell she was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
We don't see anything from you.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And I almost felt like, was this all a bit
of a setup by the producers, Not to say it
wasn't all real and those things hadn't happened with her
family in terms of the emotions and the journey that
they've been on, but it was sort of like, oh, well,
we can't let Sutton walk into the fire at this
reunion because she hasn't shown us anything real, so we
need to put an episode in there where she shows
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us this real stuff. And it sort of felt potentially
a little bit forced. I don't know something about it
was just a little bit orchestrated or something.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
For me, even though it was emotional.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
One hundred percent, I hadn't thought about it that way.
And this happens to me. I think every weink you
point something out to me. I felt uncomfortable, and I
didn't know what that uncomfortability was. And I think you're
right that maybe how did you phrase that? You said
you felt like the episode was like orchestrated, Yeah, Boston orchestrated.
When you said those bodes to me, I was like, yeah,
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that's probably what it is. I mean, even I'm really
careful about what I share to people about my personal
stories when it comes to this sort of stuff, because
I'm so sensitive about it, and I'm also really cautious
about other people's backstory as well. I don't want to
trigger people. I try to sort of navigate around it,
you know, while we sidestep this whole thing, because this
podcast is supposed to be your fun for people who
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are listening.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
True, Yeah, I think that those suicide warnings, when you
know that that's what's going to happen in the episode,
need to be at the start of the episode or
the end, because I have feeling that they should change
that and they should have that upfront, because I reckon
if I start seeing those before episodes and maybe this
is what they don't want, you know what I mean,
I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Wouldn't watch them, you know, well, I mean, I hadn't
even thought of it that way, and I don't think
there was anything really to suggest on the trailer that
it was going to go into this space. Like we
sort of saw the trailer last weekend with Garselle, you know,
chatting to her and she was like, I don't think
that's your business.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Well, I'm so happy we're having this one on one
time together, and I wanted to talk to you because
Sat and I have had intimate conversations. You know, she's
so proud of how far she's come, and she would
just love to hear you say that you're proud of
her and that you love her too.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I feel like I can see something.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I don't think that's any of your business.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
But we didn't sort of know it was going to
go into such a heavy place and it was going
to be very raw and emotional and talk so much,
you know, about this sort of topic in such great detail.
So yeah, imagine for a lot of people watching it
would have been very heavy. And it's not to say
those things shouldn't get discussed or we shouldn't be showing
away from them. They're very real topics that need to
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be But you're right in that forum you're walking into
it not expecting it, and they're not having that warning there.
You're not even sure it's going to go to that place.
So I think you're right there.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You've made a good shout.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Maybe it's me though, but you know I to go
into a Lolli's stater by a pumpkin.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, And then it's sort of like you to sort
of shift to where it ended in the end with
that scene with Dereet and Erica and Bow sitting at
that dinner, Then that almost kind of feels trivial, like
you're not giving that the attention it kind of needs
because you've just come from this heavy place and everything
sort of looks so insignificant in comparison.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What does that mean though? What advantages? Of course? And
the advantage.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Advantage is that he wants to have the upper hand.
If you are cornered like any animal, Yep, you're going
to straight. He's afraid of how smart you are and
how you will straight.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Farming and down so he can run the basis on you.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
You're right, because legally he can go around town and
scoop up everybody. So that you don't have good counsel.
Dret needs to keep her eyes open.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They really gave us a shift, and we'll have to
unpack this because we're getting ahead of ourselves. But yeah, yeah,
I felt like we've really got to shift in perspectives
from the other women, especially from Bozma and Erica, on
the way that Dree was trying to share that story,
like they looked at her like, all right, you're yapping now,
you know. They were sort of they weren't taking it
the same way that they had in previous episodes, And
(10:31):
I feel like when you put that up against the
Sutton's backstory, maybe they did that on purpose. I don't know,
because it did make Deret talking about her separation from
PK feel quite trivial when we know it's not like
separation is really hard and dereit is going through something
really difficult. But for some reason, we just got to
see her sitting there yapping to the women, and the
women sort of were approaching it differently. I got some
(10:52):
definite side eye.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
That's sadying. Pik is ruthless.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
He's ruthless in business, which means he will be ruthless
in the business of divorce.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
She said to Erica, why are you giving me this
side eye?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And then Bow's lashed into her and I was like,
this is a game this guy is playing.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You wake up.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And you could and then she goes holy shit, And
so she was really taken aback. I guess by their
sort of stance because before I guess she'd had their
full support.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And then last week.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
We saw Erica sort of give her that advice, and
this week was definitely I've given you the advice and
now you're not listening to me.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And I find that really hard in a friendship.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I feel like, when you come to me, I'm going
to give you everything, I'm going to really consider what
I'm saying to you, and I'm going to give you
some really good advice.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And then it feels like if someone just turns around
the next day is.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like, Okay, thanks for the chat, none of that, don't
care doing this over here, that's fine, do whatever you
want to do, but then don't come back to me
again and complain about it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
How many times do you do that with your girlfriends,
because like, let's just say they come to you with
a problem and you give them advice. I mean, I
feel like I've got a pretty tolerant with that kind
of stuff. Probably would do three interactions of giving someone
the same advice and if they're not taking it, I'd
probably be like at that point, you know, we've discussed
this before, and I don't think you'll really listening to
what I have to say, so I don't really want
(12:12):
to discuss this with you. I think that's how I
yes it.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, and yeah, I'm probably the same.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's not it's certainly not the first conversation that I'm like, oh, well,
I already told you what I thought. You go through
that a little bit, but I feel like that's what
they're already doing. She put that information out there last week.
She said all about the horrible email that he basically
wants to take it to the clean as Erica pointed
out that he's trying to get her before ten years.
You've got to be quick about this. You've got to
be lawyered up, you've got to be proactive. And she
was about to let it all go because they had
(12:38):
one nice conversation on the phone, and like I said
to you last week, don't forget this man is a
talent manager. He's very very smart. He knows what he's doing,
he knows how to play in business. And Erica reiterated
that in what she said in her confessional. He's a
smart businessman. He's going to be smart at the business
of divorce.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Both of those women at that very point though, where
she was saying this to me was like, oh, hang,
going to say, we've handled this in a few different approaches,
which isn't working, so now we're going to have to
be bad cop. I feel like that before, like you know,
like that's how it was going and yes, I'm around.
They were like, oh wait, you're not listening, so bad cop,
and they just went, yes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Right, It was so yeah, And I feel like she
would have been expecting that from Erica, but when Bos
delivered it that way and she said wake up and
it was quite you know, assertive, she was not expecting
that from her.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Can't be a victim? Do you think this is a game? Yeh,
wake up?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Because she's been sort of being given that sort of
you know, unconditional support from her, and I guess because
she didn't know PK, she has been leaning more into
that without needing anything from PK side. But I feel
like when Erica watched Bos deliver the infos, she closed
her eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
She had that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Smart face like, thank god someone else is saying it,
and I don't have to be looked at like exactly
like what you're saying, Like I'm the only bad cop
trying to help you. We're trying to deliver you this information.
Please listen.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I mean it's not helping me with my feelings towards
Duit as a person. I know that you're very team
to eat this season, and I know a lot of
the people watching the show feel like that. They're like, yes,
to eat, own your shit, go for it, we support you.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
You know, she will lose me there, though, she'll lose
me if those women are like supporting her and helping
her and giving her good advice. She dismisses it that
she'll lose me there because I find that very triggering
in my own life.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Well, stepping back into the stuff with what was actually
going down in AUGUSTA, what I was looking forward to
talking to you about today was what happened with Garcel
and Reba, and I wanted to know because we would
all share our thoughts with our friends right about personal stuff,
including stuff that would happen with our family. How comfortable
would you be with one of your friends talking to
your mother about whatever you've said to your friend. Because
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I don't think I would be happy with that. I'd
be really disappointed.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The conversations that Something has had with Garcel, she potentially
wanted her to be that messenger. She wanted her to
go and lay the groundwork for the conversation that she
was going to have later about how she's felt and
how she know she's feeling like she hasn't been loved
or you know that her mum's not proud of her.
I feel like it was almost the groundwork for that,
(15:16):
but Riba was within her rights and she executed it
to say that is.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
None of your business.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You do not know the backstory, You do not know
the complexities, you do not know the journey that we've
been on. And so yes, she was trying to come
from a place of a good friend, but you're going
to get into some murky waters when you don't know
the full family dynamic. She was never gonna she was
never going to win that chat. But I think it's softened.
It softened the conversation that Sutton then had with her
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mother because I think she was like, oh, well, I've
already heard this from Garcell. It wasn't coming out of
the blue, so I think she got a nicer Riba
because she sort of knew that that was coming.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
When we found out that she was a psychologist, it
was kind of like finding how whoa you know, her
profession was like trying. It was like finding out that
a great white shark, you know, is a babysit of
a dogs. Do you know what I mean? Like, I
would never go to a psychologist like Reaber because she
I mean, maybe she's one of those psychologists that just
sits there and listens and doesn't say anything.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, well, I mean, look she was, she's guarded. She
had that tough love approach.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
She's probably quite blunt, but some people probably need that
from a therapist, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Like, no, that's not it.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I mean maybe she should be the one talking to
Dry at this point about the relationship, like it's over, Darling,
not even darling.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
She'd just be like it's over. Move on. What my
accent was just then?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It was good? I think it was great. It was
a whole lot of them. It was an Australian version
of an American person from Augusta.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I need to practice of the southern accent.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I know if you practice that, you would get that
down to perfection. Gussell didn't actually do too badly considering
she was in the wrong for bringing that stuff up.
I think she managed to navigate Reaper's she got herself
out of it. She did she was like, Okay, this
may have been a mistake.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
How Nae is the steel magnolia is.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I think that we have to progress then from that
place into the discussion, which gave me my favorite moment
of the episode, which come on was amazing. The pivot
from sudden and Reba's conversation to Kyle and garself peering
around the corner is like peak housewife perfection. Like that
camera work was phenomenal, was like the parent trapped kids
(17:24):
listening like it was amazing, and.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Kyle's run back up the stairs like to look like
she was just.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Casually coming back down, so funny.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It was like, actually good acting, like not Halloween acting. Yes,
I was roaring at that point with all of that,
I thought that was amazing, But yeah, getting into the
actual dynamics of what actually transpired, I thought it was
really interesting what Riba was trying to say, and I
want to know from your perspective what you think about
why Reber doesn't want to say to her daughter that
she loves her, Because then I was thinking about it,
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I'm like, does my mom say that to me? And
then I'm like, actually she does. Like, my mom's got
no issue with saying that I love you, and I'm
sure your mum, from what I know of her, would
be the same. She would be very affirming with her
love and support of you. Why is this lady choosing
not to say that to her daughter, Like, what is
the rationale?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, I think it's just a different way.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I think people have different levels of being comfortable with
being affectionate and what they say what they don't say.
I mean, like she seemed upset that she was like, oh, well,
even though I don't say those things, it surprises me
that you don't know it, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And then when she agreed to sort of come on
the fashion show and get on a plane to travel
and she's like, well, I think that's something I can do.
That was definitely her way of saying no, Well, I
understand you've felt a certain way now, and I'm going
to try and do better with the time that they
have left. You know, she's not a young woman, she's
eighty two years old. Things can happen quickly, and I
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just feel like people have different upbringings and then culturally
and then you know, people just have different surroundings and
what they're comfortable with. So I don't think there's any
right or wrong, but I think it's upsetting when you
see a child, doesn't matter that she's an adult child
say I want to hear these things.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I feel upset that I don't get to hear them.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I feel this way that does need to get acknowledged
when you've gone to the effort of bringing that.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Up, because that took a lot for her to do
that you could tell.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And there's those reads that we get from Garcel which
have been really good this season. I thought it was
quite accurate because that's where I landed, which was there
seems to be some jealousy amongst these women.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Sutain had a relationship with her dad that she didn't
have with her mum. I think there was some jealousy there.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Maybe there's some jealousy over Suttain's father's adoration for the daughter.
That can happen in family dynamics. And that could possibly
be a rationale as to just why this mother can't
say that to her daughter. She's still holding on to
some jealousy.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, I mean, I think that part of it was interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And you know, I think that this episode, even though
it wasn't what we were expecting and it was heavier,
and it wasn't necessarily you was sitting watching it from
a place of enjoyment, but I think it ticked the
box of doing what we needed it to do, and
that was to take a peek behind the life of Sutton.
You know, even to the point where you know her
(20:16):
mum was being annoying in the kitchen and she wanted
her to get certain ingredients and then Sutton was like,
oh no, well I asked you to get Rve the
Iceberg letter. She is exactly like her mom in that way.
But we did get to see it, and it's all
the stuff that I get annoyed about with Sutton, who.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Put this ice into the ice maker but don't tell me,
I only know.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Have you eaten?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah no, well I have these Depp thanks.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I don't like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And now I kind of see where it's coming from.
So I think the episode did its job in that sense, how.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Much do you think you're like a product of your family?
Do you think that you are a lot like your mum? Like,
do you see that because I recognize it. I do
stuff and I'll be like, that is so what my does.
And then I'll do stuff and I'll be like, that
is definitely from my dad. I guess what I'm trying
to say. Maybe I'm answering my own question, just chatting
to myself, But like I do think in some ways
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we are a product of our parents, whether we like
to admit it or not.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Oh, of course we are, you know, not just your
parents and your sort of immediate family, but you know,
you are the company you keep. And I think you
pick up different things from different people that you surround
yourself with, and that's why choosing the right people for
you where you're out in your life is so important.
But I think certainly family and those things being impressed
on you young, it's just a subconscious thing. You pick
(21:37):
up certain behaviors or traits and they stay with you
for life, or you recognize them and you try and
fight really hard against them.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
That can often happen too, But you know.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Reaba would be the one to know because she's the
one that's the therapist.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Looks as though you're missing social cues, do you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, well, it'll be interesting when we watch those parts back.
Maybe At the reunion, Sutton realizes that she's watched this
episode how similar she actually is to her mum. I
wonder because often people don't know, you know, but I
feel like when they're showing all that footage side by side,
you're like, oh my god, there it is.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
One of the things about this episode as well that
was just also a bit flat for me was that
are you getting red flags from Bozma's partner, because like,
to me, eric Is is sort of saying, hang in a
sec they're talking about having a child, but they haven't
said they love each other to each other like that
is whacka do. Like, I'm sorry, that's a red flag
right there. And then you know, I've got into body
(22:33):
language a lot. I try and read people's body language.
I don't feel like that man has committed to her.
I feel like he is taking her for a ride.
What do you think? What's your take on the dynamics
that we're saying maybe he's nervous with the cameras there, right,
So I remember some of the husbands have come out
in the podcast space and said, how hilarious is it
(22:54):
watching yourself back on this show because they never get
used to the cameras the way their wives do, because
their wives are doing more of it. You know, maybe
he's like, holy shit, I'm having these conversations with a camera.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
We haven't really seen enough of him to know, but
I just the only thing I'm sort of holding on
to to hope that he's not fully taking her for
a ride is the fact that they got together before
she was on the show. I feel like she didn't
have that profile in that sense. I really hope it's
not like a fame grab and it's you know, and
also like, if she's going to go through the process
(23:27):
of trying to have a child at forty seven, that
is such a huge undertaking.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You want to be in a really secure spot.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I wouldn't have I would have thought, I mean, I
really I quite enjoyed the chat that she had with
her daughter Laelle about you know, how does she feel
about her potentially having another child and the sort of
conversation that happened, and she was so mature at fifteen
sixteen years old.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
She was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So I feel like she's got a really solid relationship
with her. I just yeah, I mean, who knows how
it's going to play out. I wouldn't say I'm agreeing
with you in the sense that I feel like I've
got full red flags, but there's definitely some small red flags.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I'm just putting on my Jackie Gilly's hat, and my
Jackie Gilly's hat is saying I don't think these people
are going to be together in a couple of years.
That's just how I say it. We'll go back.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Do you think he wants a baby mama?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
And then he just wants someone to have his baby
and then he just looks after it half the time, and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
It's like a baby like because engaged in the baby,
I know, but like, why would you engage in a
baby chat if you didn't want that? You know what
I don't know's I don't know because I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Feel like she's really wanting to have the baby. She's like,
I want to have the baby because that's what he wants.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
No, it's just not adding up for me. The whole
dynamic's not adding up to me. I think that they're
pushing their reaching. Good luck to them though, all the
best on your endeavors, on your endeavors. So Jennifer Tilly
feels to me like she's kind of being edited out
of this season? Do you reckon? They wanted more from
her and they realized that they're only getting sort of
a two dimensional character. And that's why because she was
there for the filming of clost this season. And I
(25:01):
do feel like and thank you to the editors for
editing her out, Like you know, I haven't seen I
haven't thanked editors enough for editing someone out since whoever
that woman was last.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Year, Adam Marie, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Editors for editing her out. She's boring. But Jennifer Tilly
seems like she's going to be on the cunning room
floor a lot this season.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Well, I mean, it says it all. The fact that
you brought her name up and I was like, oh, yeah, Like.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I don't notice her if she's gone, nor do I
get excited when she's there.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So I feel like that just says it all. Do
you know what I mean? To me, it's like she's there,
She's there. She's not there.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
She's not there, Like it doesn't affect me. I don't
care if I see her. I'm not gagging over her
outfits or really anything whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
She's like that kookie lady that you see at the
supermarket sometimes shopping that you can't stop looking at you
like it's weird.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, it's exactly what we said at the start of
the season. It's like she's got the job sharing role
with Kathy. Kathy has probably been on an elaborate trip somewhere.
They shoved her in to try and add some comic
relief and some fuck rich money and just kind of
tick that quirky kookie box. And then Kathy's probably back
in town now, so we don't need you. Jennifer, thank
(26:08):
you so much for your time. Please stamp your time
card on the way out.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Go and make a chucky.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Movie Sitney your big antique clock and just watch it
go gongongong all day long.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
With your partner who spends all your money on gambling.
All the very best.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We are savage today.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Savage savage. I don't know whether it's this week.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I don't know how I can be so savage when
I'm like sitting here in quantas pajamas in a fake
tan with not a sciric of makeup on.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's the couch viewer around the world, like they are
sitting at home looking like a swamp donkey judging the
people that are on television. That's everybody's today, that every
full flight. I'm going to give this episode only one star.
And the reason I'm giving it a only one, Benjamin Norris,
is because of the one moment where we panned out
and we saw Kyle and Garcel looking in at that conversation.
(26:58):
That was hilarious. It was worth the price of the
ticket on the episode. But overall, I just felt like
we're you know, we're getting close, We're getting close to
reunion episodes. We can't have a whole episode on Sutton.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm not too far off that
I'll give it one and a half.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Because I feel like the producers, the editors, they've listened
to the audience saying we need to see more from Sutton,
and I feel like they delivered it. But I think
they've been strategic and how they've given us almost too much,
so now they'll be like, well, we gave it to
you and now you didn't want it. It was like
the Lisa Rinna thing. So then they'll take it away
now and that's probably all we'll see from her and
(27:37):
her family life for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I would imagine I want.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
To say, hashtag Lisa Rinna. Have you been watching her
promoting this new podcast? Don't talk about the husband she
has been on because she's like I've spoken to her
on Instagram back in the day and I asked her
if she would go on the podcast, actually asked her
if she would go on ticket TV when we did that,
and she was like, I don't do podcasts. I've got
a rule. Anyway, So she's been doing podcasts all week.
(28:01):
And did you see the clip of her fighting with
Andy Cohen over saying The Real Housewives is the Titanic?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yes, oh my damage. Why are you.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Saying that the show is the Titanic?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You're on a podcast last week. I know you mouthed
off and how you met me.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I have day, I know, but you've so moved past this.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Okay, Oh you're so doing your own thing. I'm sorry,
I hurt your feelings.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I love Lisa Rinna and I loved her on the show,
and you know what, she kind of brought to the
table even though a lot of people didn't like her.
I kind of liked her constant search for accountability with
people and finding out the truth. And I quite liked
that in the context of the show. But I do
not like when people leave the show and then bash
the show that has got them to the top.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And she's doing so well now and she's carved out
a whole new knee. She's a supermodel at sixty years
of age. It's incredible, But like, don't bash the show.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That got you there. I thought that if they ever
offered her to come back, she would just swallow her
pride and come back and do it because she loves
the show so much. But she's turned it down.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Well, I think she's sort of gone into a whole
new space now. I think she was probably a bit
pissed about how she got traded in that last season
with the Kathi showdown, because I think she was trying
to bring them sort of something that was real and
that did really happen, and everyone wanted to turn a
blind eye to it, and she became the bad guy
and the scapegoat for the pot stirring and you know,
had that whole sister dynamic the relationship hanging over her head,
(29:28):
like you've ruined the sisters and all of that, and
I think she probably felt like, from a network point
of view, they were going to support her, although'll be like, no,
we found this footage to back you up or you know,
and it never happened. She was kind of hung out
to dry and she had nowhere left to go. The
masses had turned on her. I mean, Erica Jane didn't
come off that well in that reunion either. She was
the one who said the actual quote of what Kathy
(29:50):
said to her about the DJ, like I'm surprised that
Erica Jane didn't get a bulbarry clock attached to her
foot and she's not sitting at the bottom of the
Santa Monica Pier, like you don't say stuff like that
to Kathy Hilton, to any Hilton.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Don't say that to any Hilton Like.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, I mean they're fine now, Like she was over
having a beautiful Capri dinnery.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
While we're on while we're.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
On Other Housewives news, o MG about Teddy Mellingham. For
people that haven't been following on with her since she
left the show. She has her own podcast to Teas
and Pod with Tamra jud However, she's obviously had a
huge struggle with different skincats as over the last two years.
She has got the most massive scar on her back.
She's been in for like twenty surgeries. But now they've
(30:33):
found these brain tumors. She was having these constant headaches.
That found two big ones. She was literally in hospital
that day getting her head shaved and the rest have
to get looked at with radiation therapy.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I think it is like, but I mean, this is
not good. That is not good.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, she's my second favorite housewife of all time, so I'm.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
See, yeah, did you see her Instagram stories because she
was posting with her shaved head and she was in
the hostpe all bad before she went in for the surgery,
and Kyle was there with Morgan. Morgan was there, and Edwin,
who she recently filed for divorce from, was there, and
a few other people were there.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
In this waiting room.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But I thought, oh my god, like, Kyle's there with Morgan,
and Kyle's been trying to hide Morgan, and then all
of a sudden, Morgan's in this post and I thought
it's going to put everything like it's just going to
get everything going again.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Except for the fact that we know that Morgan Wade
is equally as good friends with Teddy Mellencamp. I think
Morgan Wade is in that group of girls and they
all talk that there's women that get up at four
in the four in the morning, who are you? And
I think that's that dynamic of that friend group, and
Morgan's a part of it. So, yeah, not surprised Morgan
Wade is there for Teddy Mellencamp. I think that she's
in the friend group.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, No, I wasn't surprised that she was.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Sort of I just thought, oh god, Kyle will be
like because now she's suddenly there and she's tried so
hard to hide her from social media since it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
All blew up.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
But look, our thoughts are with Teddy Mellencamp, and you know,
she's got those two young children, and obviously she's in
the midst of a divorce and her husband is good
to show up and support her even though they're going
through a pretty tumultuous time in their relationship.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So I mean, it's, yeah, it's all happening, and it's
not good news.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
We do get a preview just to shift out of
that because my thoughts with Teddy, but we've got an
exciting preview for next week's episode. It was almost like
they were like, sorry for borrowing you to death, but
next week you've got a food fight. We got food fight,
so everything's fine. I thought it was an interesting way
to look at that conversation. Is Bosma falling into the
(32:30):
trap of being dread spokeswoman. I thought that's going to
be really interesting to see that accusation being thrown out there.
What are you foreshadowing out of that preview? What are
you thinking we're going to get?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, I think that that was definitely coming because Kyle
is pissed off.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Kyle's pissed off at Bows.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
That she hasn't been given a fair run that she
has just sort of immediately taken to eat side. However,
it is funny when you think about prior seasons, the
fact that people are cute her and Teddy of having
that type of friendship where it was like it was
a package deal.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I think was the words that Darite used.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And whatever you say to one, the other one's going
to come in and back them up. So Deurite sort
of has that person in Bo's Kyle's not happy about it,
so I think, you know, even though they sort of
resolve their issues about the PK texting and the PK relationship,
this Bo's Derete friendship is definitely going to put strain
on Dereite and Kyle getting back to it a really
(33:28):
solid place.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I've never been like that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
What's so bizarre to me with friend dynamics is like,
how people will, you know, be like we come as
a package deal like I have the I don't think
I've ever been more on the opposite side of an
opinion than I am with my own best friend, Like
she could not be more different to me. I will
be like, I'm going to go and support that person,
and Carrie will be like, what the hell are you
talking about?
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I don't like to be somebody who flies blind just
to support someone. I'm my own person, and I'm attracted
to people who are their own person as well. Because
one of my favorite things about people, and this might
sound weird, is when people tell me off. They're like
when your close friend says, you know what, I'm going
to give you a different opinion on that and and
they guide you into a different space. That's what I'm
(34:09):
attracted to out of friendship dynamics.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Well, I think that's what we're going to see next week.
Is that sort of on full display. And that's looking
like it's going to be quite an explosive episode to
eat and sat and start getting into it again. We'll
see where that goes, I mean, hopefully just it has
a little bit more going on that we want to
see back in the realm of a Housewives episode.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
What are we doing this weekend? Where are you going?
You said that we had to record today because you
booked out what's happening?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Well, booked out watching the new Bridget Shownes movie tonight
for Valentine's Day, and then just a few other things
over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's just a busy one. It's just a very busy one.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
That's why I'm sitting here marinating in the ten and
thank you because we've already knocked off almost an hour
of marination.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well, Happy Valentine's Day, Belize Valentine's Days. We're going to
watch We're going to preview the new season of Yellow Jackets.
Don't know if you watch that show. We're going to
drink so much red wine. That'll end with a YouTube
Calimino marathon of.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Singing, Oh my god, I've got the Kylie Minod concert tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
What the fuck?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
How I'm going to get to tell you that it's tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
She's starting the tour in Perth, and then there's seventy
shows in the tour, but she's starting an in Perth.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
So you need to call me. I will as soon
as the concert finishes. I'm seeing it next week on
Friday in Melbourne. So excited. I've even got a pair
of hot pants just sitting over there that I'm going
to potentially wear. So I apologize.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I love that. I love that view.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Sorry that we've deviated quite far away from Housewives, but anyway,
it's all the very best on your endeavors. Cheerio, bye bye,
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast plant Beep that wy Hey, guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with Alana MacLean,
who has more opinions on housewives than Sudden and her
mother's opinions on cutlery and glassware combined, we go deep
on the eleventh episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen, which
(00:21):
is called Mind Your Business, which is ironic for Alana
and I because I have to tell you that we've
never minded our own business and we will tell you
our opinion even when you haven't asked for it. We
will discuss the way in which this episode is all
about Sudden Stratt and how that made us feel as
it took up most of the eleventh episode. I will
(00:42):
get Alana's perspective on Sudden Strat's mother and if Garcel
should have stuck her nose in the Strats business. We
will address the absence of Jennifer Tilly and if Elana
even noticed that she wasn't in this episode. Again, you
were going to get plenty of chat on Dret's drama
Army and what Shift viewers saw in their recent catch up,
(01:03):
what we thought of Bozeman's current relationship, news about them
not saying that they love each other but still trying
to have a baby, and we have an update on
Lisa Renner and Teddy Mellencamp. There is actually so much
to talk about with this episode, with so many inside
revelations from our perspective. So guys, sit back and relax
as we unpack the wonderful world of the Real Housewives
(01:24):
of Beverly Hills Season fourteen, Episode eleven.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We're in pajamas. I'm in ac countlash pajamas.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, someone gave them to me from business class and
they were going to get rid of them because they
had too many pairs, and I was like, no, that'll
be fantastic tanning pajamas.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So you get to see me look at these.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's so spot cheap it, I mean, I'll look fabulous
in about five hours.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'd just like to be here for the marination of
the tan.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Like I just asked, the journey, it's a special journey, Tanny.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I just appreciate as well that we take the opportunity
to record this podcast and do things for our health
and wellbeing. Whilst we're doing it.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
It's like multitasking of the greatest kind self care and
judging people on the Real Housewives.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's one of my favorite things to do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It is Happy Valentine's Day, by the way, or happy
prolonged Valentine's Day to those that celebrate. Some people don't,
but you know, I'm here for the love. The world
needs more love.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Now, I want to ask you something. So I was
having a bit of a fight with someone on a
text message today, someone that I won't mention, but I
went to finish it off by saying happy Valentine's Day. Now,
I want to know, is that condescending?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, unless they're really triggered by if they're.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Like single and they take that as like a dick
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, this person is single, so okay.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I'd probably leave it. Then.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, you know, just stick with.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
The have a good weekend being my advice.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
There, I think you're onto it. Can I also say
thank you for my highlight of my week, which is
a photo of you with a Kathy Hilton hat and
a matching bag. Honestly perfection.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It arrived if you listened to last week's episode. You'll
hear that I ordered one of the Kathy Hilton Lorna
Murray hats, but.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
They didn't have the adult version.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So I ordered a large in the child size hat
and I didn't know if it was going to fit,
and it just fits, and I was so excited because
there was no returns. I was like, this is a
really expensive gamble, but it paid off.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think it looks cute, right.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think we found the sponsor for our podcast, so
we're gonna have to hit them up.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Lornamurray dot com dot I use. She's Australian by the way.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I know she is. I know, let's call it. Let's
get her on the phone.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
She's fabulous.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
She'll be like, no, who are you? People?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
People like it wasn't worth it. Guys went on about
it too much. Hey, this episode was a bit flat.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Hey, well, I don't want to foreshadow my scoreboard, but
I mean, at the end of the day, this episode
was like a sudden backstory, Like it was like a
cuttin spin offs. You know, we really got to go
deep and you and I had mentioned last week we
got a tip of the iceberg when it came to
her opening up and showing us more about her life.
But when we got to the bottom of the iceberg,
(04:07):
I felt like a bit of an overshare, Like did
we learn too much? Was that okay for television?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
He was suffering from chronic depression. They had on all
these pills just to try to regulate stuff that wasn't working.
He would go on and off of them for years,
and then he would self medicate with alcohol.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It was very heavy and very triggering, and I mean,
I was going to kind of let you lead this
part of the chat because you've had such personal experience
with this, and not to dive into places where you
might not want to go.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But like, how did you feel about watching that?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I felt so emotional, But I also am so protective
because for people listening, I lost my father to sudden death,
and my partner lost his brother to sudden death. And
I think sometimes I feel so protective of Ben that
I put my own emotions to the side. So I
was too busy focused on how Ben was reacting to
(05:08):
the content, And then when I stopped to think about
it myself, because she was talking about her father, you know,
she kept saying my father, and I kept thinking about
it as well, because I had similar trajectories, like I
remember the last time I saw him. I remember the
last type of physical touch of a goodbye, and that
was very triggering. I'm not to say that the Housewives
(05:30):
can't delve into this. If that's someone's truth, I guess
it needed to be there. What I'd take brother to
task over is the balancing of this episode. I don't
know if they got that correct, because the whole thing
overall did leave me walking away not how I want
to feel from Housewives, Do you know what I mean?
Like this is my guilty pleasure, This is the space
I go to kind of have a good time. I
(05:53):
probably don't want to have to have my therapist on
speed dial at the end of no.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And I feel like it was It's such a fine line,
and it's sort of like that Goldilock's analogy where we're like,
we want a little bit of the honesty and the
rawness and the family backgrounds for all these women, but
then it's like this one to your point, it's like, well,
does it cross that line where it becomes too much?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And then we're put off by it and it's not
what we were wanting.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
For that experience, and I sort of felt like, quite
often we've discussed on here about we're not seeing enough
of Sutton's life. A Kyle had a massive dig at
her last reunion because she was like, why are you
having a goal at me? You've shown like your new
horse for one episode and a Cashmere line or whatever
the hell she was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
We don't see anything from you.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And I almost felt like, was this all a bit
of a setup by the producers, Not to say it
wasn't all real and those things hadn't happened with her
family in terms of the emotions and the journey that
they've been on, but it was sort of like, oh, well,
we can't let Sutton walk into the fire at this
reunion because she hasn't shown us anything real, so we
need to put an episode in there where she shows
(06:57):
us this real stuff. And it sort of felt potentially
a little bit forced. I don't know something about it
was just a little bit orchestrated or something.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
For me, even though it was emotional.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
One hundred percent, I hadn't thought about it that way.
And this happens to me. I think every weink you
point something out to me. I felt uncomfortable, and I
didn't know what that uncomfortability was. And I think you're
right that maybe how did you phrase that? You said
you felt like the episode was like orchestrated, Yeah, Boston orchestrated.
When you said those bodes to me, I was like, yeah,
(07:30):
that's probably what it is. I mean, even I'm really
careful about what I share to people about my personal
stories when it comes to this sort of stuff, because
I'm so sensitive about it, and I'm also really cautious
about other people's backstory as well. I don't want to
trigger people. I try to sort of navigate around it,
you know, while we sidestep this whole thing, because this
podcast is supposed to be your fun for people who
(07:51):
are listening.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
True, Yeah, I think that those suicide warnings, when you
know that that's what's going to happen in the episode,
need to be at the start of the episode or
the end, because I have feeling that they should change
that and they should have that upfront, because I reckon
if I start seeing those before episodes and maybe this
is what they don't want, you know what I mean,
I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Wouldn't watch them, you know, well, I mean, I hadn't
even thought of it that way, and I don't think
there was anything really to suggest on the trailer that
it was going to go into this space. Like we
sort of saw the trailer last weekend with Garselle, you know,
chatting to her and she was like, I don't think
that's your business.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Well, I'm so happy we're having this one on one
time together, and I wanted to talk to you because
Sat and I have had intimate conversations. You know, she's
so proud of how far she's come, and she would
just love to hear you say that you're proud of
her and that you love her too.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I feel like I can see something.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I don't think that's any of your business.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
But we didn't sort of know it was going to
go into such a heavy place and it was going
to be very raw and emotional and talk so much,
you know, about this sort of topic in such great detail.
So yeah, imagine for a lot of people watching it
would have been very heavy. And it's not to say
those things shouldn't get discussed or we shouldn't be showing
away from them. They're very real topics that need to
(09:10):
be But you're right in that forum you're walking into
it not expecting it, and they're not having that warning there.
You're not even sure it's going to go to that place.
So I think you're right there.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You've made a good shout.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Maybe it's me though, but you know I to go
into a Lolli's stater by a pumpkin.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, And then it's sort of like you to sort
of shift to where it ended in the end with
that scene with Dereet and Erica and Bow sitting at
that dinner, Then that almost kind of feels trivial, like
you're not giving that the attention it kind of needs
because you've just come from this heavy place and everything
sort of looks so insignificant in comparison.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What does that mean though? What advantages? Of course? And
the advantage.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Advantage is that he wants to have the upper hand.
If you are cornered like any animal, Yep, you're going
to straight. He's afraid of how smart you are and
how you will straight.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Farming and down so he can run the basis on you.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
You're right, because legally he can go around town and
scoop up everybody. So that you don't have good counsel.
Dret needs to keep her eyes open.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They really gave us a shift, and we'll have to
unpack this because we're getting ahead of ourselves. But yeah, yeah,
I felt like we've really got to shift in perspectives
from the other women, especially from Bozma and Erica, on
the way that Dree was trying to share that story,
like they looked at her like, all right, you're yapping now,
you know. They were sort of they weren't taking it
the same way that they had in previous episodes, And
(10:31):
I feel like when you put that up against the
Sutton's backstory, maybe they did that on purpose. I don't know,
because it did make Deret talking about her separation from
PK feel quite trivial when we know it's not like
separation is really hard and dereit is going through something
really difficult. But for some reason, we just got to
see her sitting there yapping to the women, and the
women sort of were approaching it differently. I got some
(10:52):
definite side eye.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
That's sadying. Pik is ruthless.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
He's ruthless in business, which means he will be ruthless
in the business of divorce.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
She said to Erica, why are you giving me this
side eye?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And then Bow's lashed into her and I was like,
this is a game this guy is playing.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You wake up.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
And you could and then she goes holy shit, And
so she was really taken aback. I guess by their
sort of stance because before I guess she'd had their
full support.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And then last week.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
We saw Erica sort of give her that advice, and
this week was definitely I've given you the advice and
now you're not listening to me.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And I find that really hard in a friendship.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I feel like, when you come to me, I'm going
to give you everything, I'm going to really consider what
I'm saying to you, and I'm going to give you
some really good advice.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And then it feels like if someone just turns around
the next day is.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like, Okay, thanks for the chat, none of that, don't
care doing this over here, that's fine, do whatever you
want to do, but then don't come back to me
again and complain about it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
How many times do you do that with your girlfriends,
because like, let's just say they come to you with
a problem and you give them advice. I mean, I
feel like I've got a pretty tolerant with that kind
of stuff. Probably would do three interactions of giving someone
the same advice and if they're not taking it, I'd
probably be like at that point, you know, we've discussed
this before, and I don't think you'll really listening to
what I have to say, so I don't really want
(12:12):
to discuss this with you. I think that's how I
yes it.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, and yeah, I'm probably the same.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's not it's certainly not the first conversation that I'm like, oh, well,
I already told you what I thought. You go through
that a little bit, but I feel like that's what
they're already doing. She put that information out there last week.
She said all about the horrible email that he basically
wants to take it to the clean as Erica pointed
out that he's trying to get her before ten years.
You've got to be quick about this. You've got to
be lawyered up, you've got to be proactive. And she
was about to let it all go because they had
(12:38):
one nice conversation on the phone, and like I said
to you last week, don't forget this man is a
talent manager. He's very very smart. He knows what he's doing,
he knows how to play in business. And Erica reiterated
that in what she said in her confessional. He's a
smart businessman. He's going to be smart at the business
of divorce.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Both of those women at that very point though, where
she was saying this to me was like, oh, hang,
going to say, we've handled this in a few different approaches,
which isn't working, so now we're going to have to
be bad cop. I feel like that before, like you know,
like that's how it was going and yes, I'm around.
They were like, oh wait, you're not listening, so bad cop,
and they just went, yes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Right, It was so yeah, And I feel like she
would have been expecting that from Erica, but when Bos
delivered it that way and she said wake up and
it was quite you know, assertive, she was not expecting
that from her.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Can't be a victim? Do you think this is a game? Yeh,
wake up?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Because she's been sort of being given that sort of
you know, unconditional support from her, and I guess because
she didn't know PK, she has been leaning more into
that without needing anything from PK side. But I feel
like when Erica watched Bos deliver the infos, she closed
her eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
She had that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Smart face like, thank god someone else is saying it,
and I don't have to be looked at like exactly
like what you're saying, Like I'm the only bad cop
trying to help you. We're trying to deliver you this information.
Please listen.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I mean it's not helping me with my feelings towards
Duit as a person. I know that you're very team
to eat this season, and I know a lot of
the people watching the show feel like that. They're like, yes,
to eat, own your shit, go for it, we support you.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
You know, she will lose me there, though, she'll lose
me if those women are like supporting her and helping
her and giving her good advice. She dismisses it that
she'll lose me there because I find that very triggering
in my own life.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Well, stepping back into the stuff with what was actually
going down in AUGUSTA, what I was looking forward to
talking to you about today was what happened with Garcel
and Reba, and I wanted to know because we would
all share our thoughts with our friends right about personal stuff,
including stuff that would happen with our family. How comfortable
would you be with one of your friends talking to
your mother about whatever you've said to your friend. Because
(14:52):
I don't think I would be happy with that. I'd
be really disappointed.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The conversations that Something has had with Garcel, she potentially
wanted her to be that messenger. She wanted her to
go and lay the groundwork for the conversation that she
was going to have later about how she's felt and
how she know she's feeling like she hasn't been loved
or you know that her mum's not proud of her.
I feel like it was almost the groundwork for that,
(15:16):
but Riba was within her rights and she executed it
to say that is.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
None of your business.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You do not know the backstory, You do not know
the complexities, you do not know the journey that we've
been on. And so yes, she was trying to come
from a place of a good friend, but you're going
to get into some murky waters when you don't know
the full family dynamic. She was never gonna she was
never going to win that chat. But I think it's softened.
It softened the conversation that Sutton then had with her
(15:45):
mother because I think she was like, oh, well, I've
already heard this from Garcell. It wasn't coming out of
the blue, so I think she got a nicer Riba
because she sort of knew that that was coming.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
When we found out that she was a psychologist, it
was kind of like finding how whoa you know, her
profession was like trying. It was like finding out that
a great white shark, you know, is a babysit of
a dogs. Do you know what I mean? Like, I
would never go to a psychologist like Reaber because she
I mean, maybe she's one of those psychologists that just
sits there and listens and doesn't say anything.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, well, I mean, look she was, she's guarded. She
had that tough love approach.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
She's probably quite blunt, but some people probably need that
from a therapist, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Like, no, that's not it.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I mean maybe she should be the one talking to
Dry at this point about the relationship, like it's over, Darling,
not even darling.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
She'd just be like it's over. Move on. What my
accent was just then?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It was good? I think it was great. It was
a whole lot of them. It was an Australian version
of an American person from Augusta.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I need to practice of the southern accent.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I know if you practice that, you would get that
down to perfection. Gussell didn't actually do too badly considering
she was in the wrong for bringing that stuff up.
I think she managed to navigate Reaper's she got herself
out of it. She did she was like, Okay, this
may have been a mistake.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
How Nae is the steel magnolia is.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I think that we have to progress then from that
place into the discussion, which gave me my favorite moment
of the episode, which come on was amazing. The pivot
from sudden and Reba's conversation to Kyle and garself peering
around the corner is like peak housewife perfection. Like that
camera work was phenomenal, was like the parent trapped kids
(17:24):
listening like it was amazing, and.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Kyle's run back up the stairs like to look like
she was just.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Casually coming back down, so funny.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
It was like, actually good acting, like not Halloween acting. Yes,
I was roaring at that point with all of that,
I thought that was amazing, But yeah, getting into the
actual dynamics of what actually transpired, I thought it was
really interesting what Riba was trying to say, and I
want to know from your perspective what you think about
why Reber doesn't want to say to her daughter that
she loves her, Because then I was thinking about it,
(17:52):
I'm like, does my mom say that to me? And
then I'm like, actually she does. Like, my mom's got
no issue with saying that I love you, and I'm
sure your mum, from what I know of her, would
be the same. She would be very affirming with her
love and support of you. Why is this lady choosing
not to say that to her daughter, Like, what is
the rationale?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, I think it's just a different way.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I think people have different levels of being comfortable with
being affectionate and what they say what they don't say.
I mean, like she seemed upset that she was like, oh, well,
even though I don't say those things, it surprises me
that you don't know it, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And then when she agreed to sort of come on
the fashion show and get on a plane to travel
and she's like, well, I think that's something I can do.
That was definitely her way of saying no, Well, I
understand you've felt a certain way now, and I'm going
to try and do better with the time that they
have left. You know, she's not a young woman, she's
eighty two years old. Things can happen quickly, and I
(18:52):
just feel like people have different upbringings and then culturally
and then you know, people just have different surroundings and
what they're comfortable with. So I don't think there's any
right or wrong, but I think it's upsetting when you
see a child, doesn't matter that she's an adult child
say I want to hear these things.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I feel upset that I don't get to hear them.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I feel this way that does need to get acknowledged
when you've gone to the effort of bringing that.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Up, because that took a lot for her to do
that you could tell.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And there's those reads that we get from Garcel which
have been really good this season. I thought it was
quite accurate because that's where I landed, which was there
seems to be some jealousy amongst these women.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Sutain had a relationship with her dad that she didn't
have with her mum. I think there was some jealousy there.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Maybe there's some jealousy over Suttain's father's adoration for the daughter.
That can happen in family dynamics. And that could possibly
be a rationale as to just why this mother can't
say that to her daughter. She's still holding on to
some jealousy.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, I mean, I think that part of it was interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And you know, I think that this episode, even though
it wasn't what we were expecting and it was heavier,
and it wasn't necessarily you was sitting watching it from
a place of enjoyment, but I think it ticked the
box of doing what we needed it to do, and
that was to take a peek behind the life of Sutton.
You know, even to the point where you know her
(20:16):
mum was being annoying in the kitchen and she wanted
her to get certain ingredients and then Sutton was like,
oh no, well I asked you to get Rve the
Iceberg letter. She is exactly like her mom in that way.
But we did get to see it, and it's all
the stuff that I get annoyed about with Sutton, who.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Put this ice into the ice maker but don't tell me,
I only know.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Have you eaten?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah no, well I have these Depp thanks.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I don't like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And now I kind of see where it's coming from.
So I think the episode did its job in that sense, how.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Much do you think you're like a product of your family?
Do you think that you are a lot like your mum? Like,
do you see that because I recognize it. I do
stuff and I'll be like, that is so what my does.
And then I'll do stuff and I'll be like, that
is definitely from my dad. I guess what I'm trying
to say. Maybe I'm answering my own question, just chatting
to myself, But like I do think in some ways
(21:10):
we are a product of our parents, whether we like
to admit it or not.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Oh, of course we are, you know, not just your
parents and your sort of immediate family, but you know,
you are the company you keep. And I think you
pick up different things from different people that you surround
yourself with, and that's why choosing the right people for
you where you're out in your life is so important.
But I think certainly family and those things being impressed
on you young, it's just a subconscious thing. You pick
(21:37):
up certain behaviors or traits and they stay with you
for life, or you recognize them and you try and
fight really hard against them.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
That can often happen too, But you know.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Reaba would be the one to know because she's the
one that's the therapist.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Looks as though you're missing social cues, do you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, well, it'll be interesting when we watch those parts back.
Maybe At the reunion, Sutton realizes that she's watched this
episode how similar she actually is to her mum. I
wonder because often people don't know, you know, but I
feel like when they're showing all that footage side by side,
you're like, oh my god, there it is.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
One of the things about this episode as well that
was just also a bit flat for me was that
are you getting red flags from Bozma's partner, because like,
to me, eric Is is sort of saying, hang in a
sec they're talking about having a child, but they haven't
said they love each other to each other like that
is whacka do. Like, I'm sorry, that's a red flag
right there. And then you know, I've got into body
(22:33):
language a lot. I try and read people's body language.
I don't feel like that man has committed to her.
I feel like he is taking her for a ride.
What do you think? What's your take on the dynamics
that we're saying maybe he's nervous with the cameras there, right,
So I remember some of the husbands have come out
in the podcast space and said, how hilarious is it
(22:54):
watching yourself back on this show because they never get
used to the cameras the way their wives do, because
their wives are doing more of it. You know, maybe
he's like, holy shit, I'm having these conversations with a camera.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
We haven't really seen enough of him to know, but
I just the only thing I'm sort of holding on
to to hope that he's not fully taking her for
a ride is the fact that they got together before
she was on the show. I feel like she didn't
have that profile in that sense. I really hope it's
not like a fame grab and it's you know, and
also like, if she's going to go through the process
(23:27):
of trying to have a child at forty seven, that
is such a huge undertaking.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You want to be in a really secure spot.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I wouldn't have I would have thought, I mean, I
really I quite enjoyed the chat that she had with
her daughter Laelle about you know, how does she feel
about her potentially having another child and the sort of
conversation that happened, and she was so mature at fifteen
sixteen years old.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
She was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So I feel like she's got a really solid relationship
with her. I just yeah, I mean, who knows how
it's going to play out. I wouldn't say I'm agreeing
with you in the sense that I feel like I've
got full red flags, but there's definitely some small red flags.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I'm just putting on my Jackie Gilly's hat, and my
Jackie Gilly's hat is saying I don't think these people
are going to be together in a couple of years.
That's just how I say it. We'll go back.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Do you think he wants a baby mama?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
And then he just wants someone to have his baby
and then he just looks after it half the time, and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
It's like a baby like because engaged in the baby,
I know, but like, why would you engage in a
baby chat if you didn't want that? You know what
I don't know's I don't know because I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Feel like she's really wanting to have the baby. She's like,
I want to have the baby because that's what he wants.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
No, it's just not adding up for me. The whole
dynamic's not adding up to me. I think that they're
pushing their reaching. Good luck to them though, all the
best on your endeavors, on your endeavors. So Jennifer Tilly
feels to me like she's kind of being edited out
of this season? Do you reckon? They wanted more from
her and they realized that they're only getting sort of
a two dimensional character. And that's why because she was
there for the filming of clost this season. And I
(25:01):
do feel like and thank you to the editors for
editing her out, Like you know, I haven't seen I
haven't thanked editors enough for editing someone out since whoever
that woman was last.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Year, Adam Marie, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Editors for editing her out. She's boring. But Jennifer Tilly
seems like she's going to be on the cunning room
floor a lot this season.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Well, I mean, it says it all. The fact that
you brought her name up and I was like, oh, yeah, Like.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I don't notice her if she's gone, nor do I
get excited when she's there.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So I feel like that just says it all. Do
you know what I mean? To me, it's like she's there,
She's there. She's not there.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
She's not there, Like it doesn't affect me. I don't
care if I see her. I'm not gagging over her
outfits or really anything whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
She's like that kookie lady that you see at the
supermarket sometimes shopping that you can't stop looking at you
like it's weird.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, it's exactly what we said at the start of
the season. It's like she's got the job sharing role
with Kathy. Kathy has probably been on an elaborate trip somewhere.
They shoved her in to try and add some comic
relief and some fuck rich money and just kind of
tick that quirky kookie box. And then Kathy's probably back
in town now, so we don't need you. Jennifer, thank
(26:08):
you so much for your time. Please stamp your time
card on the way out.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Go and make a chucky.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Movie Sitney your big antique clock and just watch it
go gongongong all day long.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
With your partner who spends all your money on gambling.
All the very best.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We are savage today.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Savage savage. I don't know whether it's this week.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I don't know how I can be so savage when
I'm like sitting here in quantas pajamas in a fake
tan with not a sciric of makeup on.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's the couch viewer around the world, like they are
sitting at home looking like a swamp donkey judging the
people that are on television. That's everybody's today, that every
full flight. I'm going to give this episode only one star.
And the reason I'm giving it a only one, Benjamin Norris,
is because of the one moment where we panned out
and we saw Kyle and Garcel looking in at that conversation.
(26:58):
That was hilarious. It was worth the price of the
ticket on the episode. But overall, I just felt like
we're you know, we're getting close, We're getting close to
reunion episodes. We can't have a whole episode on Sutton.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm not too far off that
I'll give it one and a half.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Because I feel like the producers, the editors, they've listened
to the audience saying we need to see more from Sutton,
and I feel like they delivered it. But I think
they've been strategic and how they've given us almost too much,
so now they'll be like, well, we gave it to
you and now you didn't want it. It was like
the Lisa Rinna thing. So then they'll take it away
now and that's probably all we'll see from her and
(27:37):
her family life for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I would imagine I want.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
To say, hashtag Lisa Rinna. Have you been watching her
promoting this new podcast? Don't talk about the husband she
has been on because she's like I've spoken to her
on Instagram back in the day and I asked her
if she would go on the podcast, actually asked her
if she would go on ticket TV when we did that,
and she was like, I don't do podcasts. I've got
a rule. Anyway, So she's been doing podcasts all week.
(28:01):
And did you see the clip of her fighting with
Andy Cohen over saying The Real Housewives is the Titanic?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yes, oh my damage. Why are you.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Saying that the show is the Titanic?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You're on a podcast last week. I know you mouthed
off and how you met me.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I have day, I know, but you've so moved past this.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Okay, Oh you're so doing your own thing. I'm sorry,
I hurt your feelings.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I love Lisa Rinna and I loved her on the show,
and you know what, she kind of brought to the
table even though a lot of people didn't like her.
I kind of liked her constant search for accountability with
people and finding out the truth. And I quite liked
that in the context of the show. But I do
not like when people leave the show and then bash
the show that has got them to the top.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And she's doing so well now and she's carved out
a whole new knee. She's a supermodel at sixty years
of age. It's incredible, But like, don't bash the show.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That got you there. I thought that if they ever
offered her to come back, she would just swallow her
pride and come back and do it because she loves
the show so much. But she's turned it down.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Well, I think she's sort of gone into a whole
new space now. I think she was probably a bit
pissed about how she got traded in that last season
with the Kathi showdown, because I think she was trying
to bring them sort of something that was real and
that did really happen, and everyone wanted to turn a
blind eye to it, and she became the bad guy
and the scapegoat for the pot stirring and you know,
had that whole sister dynamic the relationship hanging over her head,
(29:28):
like you've ruined the sisters and all of that, and
I think she probably felt like, from a network point
of view, they were going to support her, although'll be like, no,
we found this footage to back you up or you know,
and it never happened. She was kind of hung out
to dry and she had nowhere left to go. The
masses had turned on her. I mean, Erica Jane didn't
come off that well in that reunion either. She was
the one who said the actual quote of what Kathy
(29:50):
said to her about the DJ, like I'm surprised that
Erica Jane didn't get a bulbarry clock attached to her
foot and she's not sitting at the bottom of the
Santa Monica Pier, like you don't say stuff like that
to Kathy Hilton, to any Hilton.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Don't say that to any Hilton Like.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, I mean they're fine now, Like she was over
having a beautiful Capri dinnery.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
While we're on while we're.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
On Other Housewives news, o MG about Teddy Mellingham. For
people that haven't been following on with her since she
left the show. She has her own podcast to Teas
and Pod with Tamra jud However, she's obviously had a
huge struggle with different skincats as over the last two years.
She has got the most massive scar on her back.
She's been in for like twenty surgeries. But now they've
(30:33):
found these brain tumors. She was having these constant headaches.
That found two big ones. She was literally in hospital
that day getting her head shaved and the rest have
to get looked at with radiation therapy.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I think it is like, but I mean, this is
not good. That is not good.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, she's my second favorite housewife of all time, so I'm.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
See, yeah, did you see her Instagram stories because she
was posting with her shaved head and she was in
the hostpe all bad before she went in for the surgery,
and Kyle was there with Morgan. Morgan was there, and Edwin,
who she recently filed for divorce from, was there, and
a few other people were there.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
In this waiting room.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But I thought, oh my god, like, Kyle's there with Morgan,
and Kyle's been trying to hide Morgan, and then all
of a sudden, Morgan's in this post and I thought
it's going to put everything like it's just going to
get everything going again.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Except for the fact that we know that Morgan Wade
is equally as good friends with Teddy Mellencamp. I think
Morgan Wade is in that group of girls and they
all talk that there's women that get up at four
in the four in the morning, who are you? And
I think that's that dynamic of that friend group, and
Morgan's a part of it. So, yeah, not surprised Morgan
Wade is there for Teddy Mellencamp. I think that she's
in the friend group.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, No, I wasn't surprised that she was.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Sort of I just thought, oh god, Kyle will be
like because now she's suddenly there and she's tried so
hard to hide her from social media since it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
All blew up.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
But look, our thoughts are with Teddy Mellencamp, and you know,
she's got those two young children, and obviously she's in
the midst of a divorce and her husband is good
to show up and support her even though they're going
through a pretty tumultuous time in their relationship.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So I mean, it's, yeah, it's all happening, and it's
not good news.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
We do get a preview just to shift out of
that because my thoughts with Teddy, but we've got an
exciting preview for next week's episode. It was almost like
they were like, sorry for borrowing you to death, but
next week you've got a food fight. We got food fight,
so everything's fine. I thought it was an interesting way
to look at that conversation. Is Bosma falling into the
(32:30):
trap of being dread spokeswoman. I thought that's going to
be really interesting to see that accusation being thrown out there.
What are you foreshadowing out of that preview? What are
you thinking we're going to get?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, I think that that was definitely coming because Kyle
is pissed off.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Kyle's pissed off at Bows.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
That she hasn't been given a fair run that she
has just sort of immediately taken to eat side. However,
it is funny when you think about prior seasons, the
fact that people are cute her and Teddy of having
that type of friendship where it was like it was
a package deal.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I think was the words that Darite used.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And whatever you say to one, the other one's going
to come in and back them up. So Deurite sort
of has that person in Bo's Kyle's not happy about it,
so I think, you know, even though they sort of
resolve their issues about the PK texting and the PK relationship,
this Bo's Derete friendship is definitely going to put strain
on Dereite and Kyle getting back to it a really
(33:28):
solid place.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I've never been like that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
What's so bizarre to me with friend dynamics is like,
how people will, you know, be like we come as
a package deal like I have the I don't think
I've ever been more on the opposite side of an
opinion than I am with my own best friend, Like
she could not be more different to me. I will
be like, I'm going to go and support that person,
and Carrie will be like, what the hell are you
talking about?
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I don't like to be somebody who flies blind just
to support someone. I'm my own person, and I'm attracted
to people who are their own person as well. Because
one of my favorite things about people, and this might
sound weird, is when people tell me off. They're like
when your close friend says, you know what, I'm going
to give you a different opinion on that and and
they guide you into a different space. That's what I'm
(34:09):
attracted to out of friendship dynamics.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Well, I think that's what we're going to see next week.
Is that sort of on full display. And that's looking
like it's going to be quite an explosive episode to
eat and sat and start getting into it again. We'll
see where that goes, I mean, hopefully just it has
a little bit more going on that we want to
see back in the realm of a Housewives episode.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
What are we doing this weekend? Where are you going?
You said that we had to record today because you
booked out what's happening?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Well, booked out watching the new Bridget Shownes movie tonight
for Valentine's Day, and then just a few other things
over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's just a busy one. It's just a very busy one.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
That's why I'm sitting here marinating in the ten and
thank you because we've already knocked off almost an hour
of marination.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well, Happy Valentine's Day, Belize Valentine's Days. We're going to
watch We're going to preview the new season of Yellow Jackets.
Don't know if you watch that show. We're going to
drink so much red wine. That'll end with a YouTube
Calimino marathon of.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Singing, Oh my god, I've got the Kylie Minod concert tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
What the fuck?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
How I'm going to get to tell you that it's tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
She's starting the tour in Perth, and then there's seventy
shows in the tour, but she's starting an in Perth.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
So you need to call me. I will as soon
as the concert finishes. I'm seeing it next week on
Friday in Melbourne. So excited. I've even got a pair
of hot pants just sitting over there that I'm going
to potentially wear. So I apologize.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I love that. I love that view.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Sorry that we've deviated quite far away from Housewives, but anyway,
it's all the very best on your endeavors. Cheerio, bye bye,
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