April 25, 2025 • 34 mins
Hi, it’s Benjamin Norris and welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking play on my podcast, where I go behind the scenes with the biggest players in Australian television.
This week, I’m joined by the one and only Rodger Corser — a name you’ll definitely recognise from Doctor Doctor, Underbelly, and pretty much every major Aussie drama of the last two decades. He’s a powerhouse in scripted television, but more recently, we’ve seen him take a leap into the world of TV hosting.
You might remember his turn as the mysterious frontman of The Traitors — where, let’s be honest, he was playing more of a character than just being Rodger Corser. But in Channel Nine’s new prime-time game show The Floor, we’re finally seeing the real Rodger — and it turns out that was a bit of a challenge for him.
Now, if you’re wondering how The Floor works, here’s the gist: 81 contestants stand on a massive LED grid, each occupying a square representing their area of trivia expertise. In each round, a contestant is randomly selected to challenge a neighbouring player in that neighbour's specialty. They face off in a rapid-fire, 45-second duel, answering visual-based questions. The winner claims the loser's square and category, expanding their territory. The ultimate goal? To conquer the entire floor and take home the grand prize of $200,000.
In our chat, Rodger opens up about the shift from actor to presenter, and the very different way audiences perceive you in each role. We’ll also get the scoop on filming The Floor in Amsterdam — why they took 100 Aussie contestants across the globe and how the hell that even worked logistically.
Plus, we’ll hear Rodger’s thoughts on Rob Lowe — who hosted the U.S. version — and whether he felt the pressure of stepping into those very polished shoes.
So sit back and enjoy as we dive into the wild, wonderful and slightly chaotic world of The Floor — with Rodger Corser.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast last week Their Life. Hey guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris
and I want to thank you for clicking on my
podcast today where I go behind the scenes with the
biggest players in Australian television. This week, I'm joined by
the one and only Roger Corser, a name you would
definitely recognize from say Doctor, Doctor, Underbelly and pretty much
(00:23):
every major Australian drama that has been made over the
last two decades. He is a powerhouse in scripted television,
but more recently we have seen him take the leap
into the world of TV hosting. You might remember him
as the mysterious front man of The Traders, where let's
be honest, he was playing more of a character than
just being Roger Corser. But in Channel nine's new primetime
(00:46):
game show The Floor, we're finally seeing the real Roger
and it turns out that was a bit of a
challenge for him. Now, if you're wondering how The Floor works,
here's the gist. Eighty one contestants stand on a massive
led grid, each occupying a square representing their area of
trivial expertise. In each round, a contestant is randomly selected
(01:07):
to challenge a neighbour's player in the neighbour's specialty. They
face off in a rapid fire forty five second duel,
answering visually based questions. The winner claims the losers square
and category, expanding their territory, the ultimate goal being to
conquer the entire floor and take home a grand prize
of two hundred thousand dollars. In our chat today, Roger
(01:29):
opens up about the shift from being an actor to
a presenter and a very different way audiences seem to
perceive you. In each of those roles. We'll also get
the scoop on filming the Floor in Amsterdam, why they
took so many Australians across the globe, and how the
hell that even seemed to work logistically. Plus, we will
hear Roger's thoughts on Roblow, who hosted the US version,
(01:51):
and whether or not he felt the pressure of stepping
into those very polished shoes. So guys, sit back and
relax and enjoy as we dive into the wild, wonderful
and slightly chaotic world of the Floor with Roger Corser.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Benjamin, Hi, mate, how are you very good?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm in my son's room and it's away from the
school holidays, you see, so there's there's a ruckus downstairs.
So I thought I'd find a corner of the house
that might be a little bit more quiet.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I remember once Hughesy was doing one of these chats
and he had the kids home from school holidays. But
he had to run away because there was an incident
and it turned out one of his kids had put
the toaster in the kitchen underneath like a shelf, which
had basically set to his kitchen.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And he continued to the interview.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He stayed doing the interview because I mean, you've would
have met Dave hughes over the years. I mean, he's committed.
He will give you the content, you know what I mean.
So he's he's sitting there rabbiting on about I don't
know what shoul it was. It was Hughesy, we have
a problem, yeah, rat choe, but yeah he was his house.
Now he burned down, and he let it happen just
to talk.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I mean, I'd probably say can I call you back?
That my kids, my kids might be slightly threatened. But
I'll tell you what. He's committed to promoting a show,
isn't he? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Absolutely, I'm so excited to have this chat with you
because I am so invested in this show. I watched
it with my best friend and we became so competitive
because this show is so interactive, like nothing we've ever
seen before. Talk to me about how this came across
your desk.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I'd actually heard about it coming out through my publicist actually,
and you know, she'd heard about the US version the
robb Blow hosts, and she actually gave me a heads
up and said, why didn't you see who's doing it?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We didn't even know that Nima was doing it, so
we made I made some inquiries through my agent and
they asked me questions and we.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Found out so we actually, I want to say it
wasn't chasing, but it was just like, oh that could
be interesting because I think after doing you know, doing
The Traders, and I mean it was nine that first
got me onto just a feeling today extra, which was
sort of you know, sort of got me into oh, okay,
maybe I can do something.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's different to acting on the Telly.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So so yeah, it's just a bit more open to
maybe presenting shows.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You know, some of the acting work was getting a
little slower.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And still, I mean, I'm just in a different category
now that I'm over fifty, so you know that work
is in, you know, there's not as much of it
right now for me at the moment, so you just
sort of open up and look at look a different thing.
So so, yeah, I'd heard about it and I was interested,
and then you know, they had some other people in mind,
and then we started chatting and eventually I think I
(04:31):
went through a couple of meetings and we all sort
of spoke about what, you know, where the show was sitting,
and I kind of liked it. I'm a dad, and
it's a good you know, it's it's broad in a
great way. Sometimes people can use the word broad as
it's too broad. It doesn't sort of hit one genre
or anything. I think the fact that this is something
your primary school kids can kick your butt in a category.
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Or you can have someone with four degrees, you know,
university degrees, you know, excel in something, and then someone
who just throlls their phone, you know, for all.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Their information excel as well.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Any any sort of walk of life can find their
category that they're good at.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
But sometimes you hear oh, you see a category coming up,
and you go, oh, I can't wait for eighties movies,
and you think, yeah, that's what I'm going to be
really good at. But I found that some of the
categories that I thought I'd have absolutely no shot whatsoever,
I would beat my best mate, who is the smartest
person I know. She's a female engineer. I've never been
smarter in a room with her ever, except some categories
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of the floor.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You're welcome, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I thought we're here to boost people's ego, make them,
you know, walk away from the show and go I
feel a little better about myself, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But it's great. It's a great leveler. I've said this
before about the show.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
We had the periodic table on as one of our categories,
and people avoided it, like the play was so scared
of it. And we were saying in production that, well,
you know, we're not going to be asking really the
super you know, in depth questions about period of table.
I think, just go and basically learn learn the period
of table, which is finite.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's finite. It's basically if you could just go in
in one night or two nights kind of learn eighty
percent of it.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You probably do pretty well as opposed to the person
who is very science based knowing nothing about pop culture.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And then where do you start with the celebrity.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Couples if you have no prior prior knowledge, I mean,
where do you start?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Where do you end?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Like I think that's a harder thing if you have
no sort of pop culture references. Where you start is
harder learn than some of the other ones. And the
one let's just go and do you know this for dummies?
You know, you go and pick up the Geography for
Dummies or something like that and go, well, I could
probably do a lot. You do do a lot to
do it at least help myself, you know, in one
night with capital cities or something like that, because you're
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going to know a.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Few just to sort of top up. Because the X
factor here is that you.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Could have two people that it isn't there that the
category has been passed down because you know, someone lost it.
You know it's been passed down, and so you've got
two people it's not their number one choice.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So you're equally got like novices at it. So a
little bit of study. You know you can you can
get on, you can get on quite well.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I started screaming about like pick the ones that are
left of center, like do you know what I mean?
Like pick the ones that are like babies, because they're
really basic. Like you started off thinking I don't want
to do babies. I don't even have any children, So
I was like, I can't do that one. But then
babies was a category that I could actually do. It
was bizarre.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, we at the kitchen draw was the one that
when I saw that, I thought that was absolutely anything.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know, they just throw absolutely anything in there.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I mean, and the pressure of having to do it
up there, you know, under all the studio lights, and
we've got you know, eighty one contestants.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
When we start, We've got a studio audience as well.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Some people who you know probably spoke, you talked a
good game, you know. I want to chat to everyone
on the floor, you know, and not all that made
that and made it. But I'm to the final cut,
but I'm having the conversations in between and getting to
know people, and they certain amounts of that. Some people
were super confident, super cocky, I mean, perhaps to try
and throw people off and intimidate other people and did
(08:06):
they get up there?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And you know, basically think about our game.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
If you don't know what passed straight away, you know
and gone to something else. But people forget that one
thing and well I'm and r for ten plus seconds
just draining there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Why it's just doesn't matter how much you know you did.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We've hit the one you know, the one spot, you know,
blind spot in your knowledge of this category. And because
you're desperate to get the right answer out, you won't
pass quickly. And then some people let fifteen seconds go
past and then they're shot.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You like, why would you do that to yourself? Did
you watch the Rob Low version? Because you know what
I did was that I watched the Roger cors version first,
and then I went to the Rob Low version, which
I think will be strange for people to hear. But
because I wasn't really that, I wasn't as drawn to
this idea and this concept as much. When I liked
this Australian version, I needed to go and see the
(08:56):
Rob Loan version.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well, I mean, you know, hit the job and I mean,
I tell you what, he's a very attractive sixty year
old man you got to say.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I mean, I'm tend almost a decade behind him, and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Roger, you sound a bit like him. This is going
to sound strange because he's obviously a really accent, but
there's times of your intonation of your voice where I'm like,
that's kind of because Rob Low, you can't help a
kind of you know, we've been watching him in movies
for years. I'm forty five, so like he kind of
has this way of talking. Anyway, I started looking at
it and being like, I think Roger Corsa is one
(09:27):
hundred percent the Australian version of Rob Low.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, you know, you know, he's had a great career.
I like that half of his career, but thank you,
but he does a great job.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We had we look, we had some We have one
of the same producers on.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The show can come over and help help us out.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Just with the format, it's a pretty fast paced sort
of show with lots of moving parts and lots of people.
You know, there's a little bit of people wrangling and involved,
and the jewels go past pretty quickly and obviously there's
got to be someone there giving the tick all the
cross so there's a lot of moving parts going on
in the production you know, sort of in the with
(10:04):
the production team, and it was a little bit of
a learning curve for me to sort of get amongst
this sort of crazy kind of live you know, shiny.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Game show kind of format. But I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I enjoyed it in the end, and I definitely sort
of warmed into feeling more comfortable on stage. I sort
of just you know, by about halfway through is I
started to just really sort of find my feet.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I just love it when they get they can't guess
the answers that you are the answer. It's always funny
because I always think, you know, like under Belly, this
is a promo, so like, forgive me channel nine. I'm
not giving this away, but I think it's it's on
TV at the moment. But someone under Belly wrong. Oh my,
that show is so goddamn iconic. Like one that doesn't
get that show needs to be immediately eliminated because that's.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You just dropped your right.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You're forty five and fifty two, and you know, I've
got I've got a twenty two year old daughter and
a fifteen year old son, and you know, at thirteen
and down to nine, but you know, for the twenty
two year old under it was eighteen years ago, there
were four you know, so I mean for anyone between
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maybe twenty and thirty, a big chunk of television viewers
or you know, people who were watching media in some form,
it's an whole show. It's like me thinking about you know,
a nineen sixties cop show that were like homicide or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know that we made so.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Then and there would have been released reruns of that
on a Telly where I don't know, you know, well,
I suppose Underbelly is available to stream, but where the
people are drawn to do that. But for a different
generation like your own, it was big because it was
an Underbelly was a time where I think we were
used to watching a lot of overseas shows and someone
swung back to some Aussie content. I think Underbelly was
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a big part of that.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I know friends that had Underbelly parties during COVID and
they would watch the first series. Oh wow, it was
like it had a second coming, like hearing that with
people were like they were ordering in Italian food like
mobster style, and we're rewatching this show. And the weird
thing about it was when I heard that. I went
back to watch it as well, and it still stands
(12:11):
up that show, do you know what I mean? Like
it's such a bizarre time capsule, and it was like
lightning in a bottle because it didn't matter how many
times I tried to remake it.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, I think it was. I mean everything about IP.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You look a look at Hollywood and everyone, you know,
the top of ten grossing films over the last couple
of years, they're mounted them that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Have you know, pre existing IP.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
They're either a sequel so it's their own IP, or
it's Barbie, or it's you know, it's based on something
else where. So true true crime has a version of
that because you're familiar with the people and the stories
and the headlines, so the audience you're not sort of
having to explain, you know, from ground zero, exactly what
it is. And with Underbelly, in one way, it was
(12:50):
a detriment for a sequel. We couldn't have a sequel
all the all the pending court cases, they're all the
pending court cases, and you couldn't continue the story where
we'd finished it because it was locked up in court
and you couldn't influence a jury so you can't you know,
doing a dramatized version or something, you know, and that
might influence a jury. But the good thing about about
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being in the zeitgeist, especially in Melbourne, I mean especially
in Victoria where these people were front page news so often,
so it became infamous because we got banned.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I don't even remember what we were banned.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
My mum is a primary school teacher and she was
making I shouldn't say this, my mom's going to come
for me now, I copy. He was making pirated copies
at school and handing them out to the teachers.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
People were driving up to the border, yes Aubury Ordonga,
passing it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Over and passing it over, and like people going up
and getting their DVD burnt copies.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Which is the irony of someone different black market, you know,
sort of on a bunch of show about gangsters.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And your kids.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Would think that he's so bizarre telling them about the
floppy disk and the hard disk, you know what, they're like,
Oh my god. Anyway, we're going off on a tangent.
I need to ask you about the rationale as to
why a show like this, because it would have been
expensive to fly everyone overseas, so far away? Why are
you shooting so far away? It certainly wasn't to keep
it under wraps because most of the cast ended up
(14:12):
blabbing about being on the show anyway, so we found
out before time. But why be shooting over? It was Amsterdam,
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, it's just in my contract. I just I just
needed it to be in you know good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Now, look, yes, it is expensive for a cast to
come over, but a lot were sourced from Europe, so
expats in the UK and the Netherlands and you know,
adjoining European countries where you know, I suppose it's a
one hundred and fifty pounds easy jet flight and you
know it's only we shot it in the weeks weeks
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accommodation and some people were flying from Australia because I
did want the right mix of people. Yeah, so you know,
you're going to have probably a lot of twenty and
thirty somethings that are in Europe because it's kind of
their time when they're traveling. Not all, but like that's
you know, a good chunk of people you probably find
that demographic touring and traveling in Europe, and then some
other people you know, so we could make sure we
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sort of know, ticked the boxes and had people from
different parts of Australia in rural as well, not just
see people and you know, all backgrounds and all kind
of vocations and different categories that were their expertise and age.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Groups and everything.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So some people were flown from Australia, but I think
that was only probably ten to fifteen percent.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Actually, okay, well that's because the set is huge.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I mean, the things as big as a basketball court.
That the screen, that the floor they're standing on. You know,
that's not something you're just you know, putting you you know,
in your ludgage and sent back over to Australia. It's
a big bit of kit. And it's nine episodes. So look,
if we were a five times a week game show,
thirty five forty weeks the year, maybe that's worth building
(15:51):
the studio for for nine episodes. And even we have
a rope cam which is a bit like a spider cam,
but just on the one access back and forth, like
just to have the operator like he's just done the
German version, just done the next second season of the
Netherlands version, you know, just done some other European versions.
He you know, they were a well oiled machine. So
we got over there, we had two days tech and
we're into it. You know, we've obviously done a lot
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of pre production back here in Australia and they had
a great team doing that, screening all the testants and
and you know, working at aly categories and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So we hit the ground running. So yes, I'm sure
it's expensive.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
To do it over there, but the amount of time
we spent there, it was a well oiled machine and
we sort of get in and get out.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's something about the way in which the production of
this show shows contestants on a game show that we've
never seen before. Like I can't even explain this to you,
and I don't know whether or not you and the
accountless interviews you've done have been able to do it.
But we get to know these people in a way
that I don't think has ever been done. Like Deal
or Nodeal Grant Dania. He might ask them one question,
but for some reason we are connecting through to these
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personalities and wanting to follow them. We choose, oh, we
want that person to lose. Like it's a really strange
concept because we for these people in a way that
I've never seen on a game show before. Why do
you think that is the case?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well, that's the thing about you for and what why
foremots some work and some don't. And it's a magic source,
isn't it? And I think you know you've got some
great elements put together.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And the things you really like about a game.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Show like Quick Essentially it's an easy to get battle
when we have our duel, you know, to break it
down to it, it's visual and it's a one on
one take turns and basically you can just yell out
at the screen. And that's why it's so great to
play at home. Getting to know our contestants, our characters.
Over nine episodes is a longer run than even a
the classic carryover champ a thirteenth century or something. Five
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nights was at the top there. But we're also getting
much more like a reality show. We're getting their opinion
because we're asking their strategy out loud, so they're talking.
There's a little bit of trash talk, which is kind
of fun, and sometimes that's you can perceive that it's funny,
and sometimes you might go, oh, I didn't like that
person for saying that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So we can see.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Their personality where you know, I mean hard PiZZ Sometimes
there's a bit of trash talk, but mostly from the
from the host, but you know, there's a little bit from.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The contestants there.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
But we get our contestants, you know, they're interacting with
each other as well, so we get a little bit
of bravado and some other people keeping their cards close
to their chest. Some people are just telling absolute untrues
about themselves to try and throw people off about it.
I love what they know or may not know about
a category they want people they're sort of bluffing about. Oh,
(18:27):
I'm so glad I inherited that category because I you know,
I was once some nuclear scientist or something.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
There get opened. They're not, but they're I think, I
think one.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Person, I don't want to say much category, but there's
a there's a category where someone is just bluffed the category.
The absolutely nothing about it. Yeah, people stayed away from
it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I just am excited to see people engage with something
that's so new, you know what I mean. Like a
lot of these TV shows, like it was almost like
what you were saying about films, where we're like we
only get sequels and Marvel and Barbie and brands, you know,
and it's like we're not stepping outside of the circle
and looking at taking a chance on something that's completely new.
So when you see Channel nine say we're going to
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put this sort of a game show for nine episodes,
it's seven thirty at nine. It's a ballsy move and
I can't wait to see how it lands. I kind
of feel like it could easily be huge.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think that's what you know.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I feel that nine are really back, and you can
tell when you can a network really supports the show.
You can see it on screen. I'm worried about people
could be sick in my face before they even see
the show because I'm like, oh, there's so many primos.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Think about it, like Rob Low, You're the attractive bloke
that we get to see. And what's so smart about
this decision with you this time is Roger, we do
get to know you a little bit better because with
the Traders, I felt like they gave you a caricature
to sort of play, which worked and it didn't work
at times. Where with this show, you know, I've met
you in the flesh a number of times. I've gotten
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a sense over time meeting you in real life about
who you are as a person, and I feel like
that comes across in this.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
That was probably my I think I pushed the character
in the Trader is a bit too much problem, probably
because I was scared of being because I'm used to
keeping a little bit separate like you in interviews. I
don't try and sort of hide too much. But you know,
if people someone doesn't like show you do, you can go, well,
that's that's a character, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You put yourself out there as yourself and I just
I don't like that. Host No, there's no other version
of yourself is there?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So well that's the life, isn't it. The actor can
say that, you know, like when you are doing that,
and I guess it is taking away a net from
underneath you. I remember sitting next to you at a
film premiere once years ago. It was The Square I
think was the name of the film, was a Joel
Legit in film they did at the Nova, and I
remember thinking, wow, Roger Cours is really shy compared to
(20:49):
what I thought you were going to be. I was
really taken aback by your shyness. I would have thought
I think a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I think a lot of people in who actors or
have you know you got you get one or two
gigs under your But this is what I say to
other actors.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We laugh at you know, we'll go to an award
ceremony and they'll be.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
This year's in a reality TV contestants I mean from
a certain type of show, usually not not all of them,
And how confident they are strutting down a red carpet
when they've you know, I don't know that it's because
of social media now and people are out there and
more confident where it took a long time, and I'm
sure for.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
A lot of other actors.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Until you get what you feel like is a body
of work under your belt, that you feel that you're accepted,
or that you deserve to be at a premiere or
a red carpet or at an industry event or anything
like that, you know, it takes a while. Man.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Maybe that's just my generation that you have so to
had to earn your strips.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Where I think anyone that suddenly gets you know, name
the number of followers, what you know.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You see is making fifty one hundred and ten thousand.
I don't know that all of a sudden, there's.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
A I'm here, I've arrived, and it's a it's just
a different.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But everyone's out there, everyone's presenting themselves in a way
that only people in music and entertainment had to do.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Twenty years ago. You know, your local tradesmen didn't have
to turn a camera around on them and look good
and present and go, you know, this is what I do,
and you know, tell themselves yeah with me.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, but you know I have to tell you that
those people that now are drawn to reality this is
now a different podcast. But I'm very fascinated by unpacking
a little bit of this. But like I think people
who want to go on reality TV are drawn to
the fame of it, of the red carpet. They've been
preparing that for that their whole life. Where I know
my friends who actors, and there's this sort of nature
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of the work, you know, and wanting to be good
at the work. When you're an actor, you're not drawn
to that industry to be walking the red carpets and
talking about yourself. And an actual fact, most of the
best actors in this world hate talking about themselves.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, You've got a difference between loving the craft that
you're doing.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Whether you're a musician, you just love playing the guitar,
the piano or whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And you know, people have ambition. I'm going to say that.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You know there is a healthy ego either that comes
along along with that. But it's not just the desire
to be the under the lights for the applause. I
mean it's a good it's a nice rush with you.
You know, you do a stage show or back when
I was some rock bands and you know, you get
a big crowd and they're.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Applauding and going off is a great rush.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So the adulation in a crowd sense is great, but
purely just being recognized or that kind of thing is
purely being that being the motivation. It just seems a
bit foreign to me, you know, multiple time the reality
of stars. Do they love the craft of getting on
a show and being the bitchy one or like, like
is that what they enjoy?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think there is a bit of that, to be
honest with you, because like it's now so many years
gone from doing Big Brother, but I did enjoy I
could have done that show as a social experiment, if
that makes any sense, without cameras and it ever being
played on TV. I was fascinated by the idea of
Big Brother, and I really was there for ninety seven
days with no phone, and it was a life changing experience,
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just the social experiment side of things, what it does
to you as a person. But then I knew there
was a lot of people in that show that were
just there because they talked about it all the time.
When we get out of this show, everyone's going to
you know, I'm going to have this and I'm going
to have Instagram followers. That to me was really like, oh, so,
I think that there are people like me who were
drawn to being on these reality TV shows for the experience, the.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Actual experience, as opposed to always having that yeah, this
is a publicity tool for me.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
So I didn't do anything on Instagram for three months
basically after I did Big Brother because I was scared
of it. You know, I didn't like the people. I
actually found it really uncomfortable. My whole life, I used
to pretend to walking down the streets, what would be
like to be PAPARAZZI thought that would be fun, and
then I found that when I was in that experience,
I found it extremely intrusive and uncontrollable. And when I
got my notoriety back because now that show's so old,
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I was like, I'd never do that again.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, I've never had to really worry about any
of that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And I think if you're a boring, relatively boring as in
like nothing controversial. I mean, I'm married with you know,
four kids of three kids that live at home with me.
We often go out to things. It's not like you
know who's he dating or who's you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So no, one really don't have to worry about any
of that.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, is because there's no juice there. It's kind of boring,
So so I don't. I'm out in the suburbs as
well in Sydney.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'm not in the inner city where you know, all
the things are happening, so just it's just never. The
only time I've been packed in my own suburb is
because of other people. I mean, there was a controversial
football figure around here that had.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Done it was, you know, in the courts for something,
and I.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Went past the cafe and now I was sort of
stalking his home, and they got me because I walked
past and there was another another TV personality that was
stalking them who look quite quite close to me, and
try to trying to wait for them to, you know,
to appear at home because they were in the media
for various reasons. I happened to again walk past, so
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I think, like, oh, I suppose we've got to be option,
you know, and.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
That's the only two times that's it, because they was
talking other people.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I want to go back to the original thing, which
is that Roger, where we started this was about you
worrying about, you know, letting us, letting a guide down,
not being a character and showing us Roger Courser. It
seemed to me like you were trying to say that
you thought you were boring, where in actual fact, you know,
that's your take on it. I think people are fascinated
by you, and I watched them watching the floor, and
(26:30):
I think what you bring to that show is the
right level of personality and doing the job, doing the
doing the role, you know. And I think if this
show continues on and we continue to see more seasons
of it, I think you need to lean more into
the vulnerability of just being Roger Krser and allowing us
to see a little bit seeing a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know what. I warmed into this, and I was
pushed by by our producers, you know that the voices
in my head, in my ear and my sort of
going ask the more like and I realized I was
worried about getting this very correct live performance down, and
they sort of said.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Look, yes, it's got a live feeld, but we can
go back at any time. So you stuff something up,
don't worry. It's don't be so worried.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Like, take some chances and you know, and if it's
too much, it doesn't work, we will cut it out.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's not live, live live, you know, it's heavily edited.
Now all the.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Games aren't obviously they're they're run from start fities, but
all the pattern in between, you know, because they I realized,
they want four times the amount of powder with the
contestants and then they'll pick and choose the best bit,
you know. So as soon as I kind of understood that,
then I relax. And when I try and crack a
joke and it doesn't work, just don't hang me. Just
don't use it, you know, because and then I realized
that that's my job is My job is to introduce
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a lot of people, you know, these characters which is
a high attrition rate. So after a couple of episodes,
we'll lose some people and you'll start to see the
same faces crop up, and then you'll start to bond
and so I'll you know, have more of a chat
with that person and ask them more and you know,
encourage them to interact between and so, you know, if
it's the second season fingers fingers crossed, you know, I
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sort of know going in from episode one what my
role is, and yes, it's to show a bit of
my personality, but it is within for the purpose of
you know, if I can give a bit to get
a bit, that's the reason, you know, because we want.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
To see these people shine up there. We want to
see all those fun moments.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
We want people that you can identify with, and we
want people to have a gag and a laugh and
and you know, give us some great light moments.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
They'll follow you as well, you know, to finish off
the chat, thank you for opening up and talking to
me about And sometimes I feel like I start asking
people questions and you're like, this is why really famous
people don't do podcasts, because then they get one like
me asking them questions that they.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Were very disarming like what Andrew Dentlem was, you know,
maybe you can have your.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Own show, Like, Yeah, I sat next to him once
on a plane and I couldn't speak to him because
I just loved him on I loved his ability to
unearthed conversation. Yeah, it's very incredible because he's the best questions.
We're always something that came off, like the third question.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It was very disarming and an incredible, incredible show.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
So good, and that's what people want at the end
of the day, is they want to listen to conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's a hard job interviewing because I have to do
it in small ways on the show. But I think
if people are doing a lot of these things and
they hear and it's the same and you think, oh right,
well they're going to get that same question seventeen times,
I'm probably going to get a very similar response to
the prepared response as opposed to that question that's a
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little bit left us center.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'd love to know. I always finished the podcast with
what is something from behind the scenes? And it always
stresses people actually think, fuck, I haven't had a chance
to think about what's behind the scenes or a good
answer to this question. But I was wondering if and
if you feel comfortable answering this, because The Traders are
so big around the world and people keep talking about it.
If Australia decides to do this show again and you're
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now this superstar on the floor and you can't do it,
have you ever thought about who would be a good
replacement on that show?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Plenty of people who could do it, of course.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And I was thinking about you. I was thinking you
must have thought at some point, because The Traders is
huge around the world, like it's so in the UK,
like it's actually succeeded in every environment except Australia. At
New Zealand it was huge, and so the idea that
it didn't really work here means that people are going
to circle around that idea. And I think the floor
is your better if that's not too rude to say, Like,
(30:24):
I think it's more you're laying So I thought at nighttime,
you must be thinking it's gonna Who would be the
right person to do that?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I've got to say I probably I'm not thinking who
should take that job that I lost?
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Probably how would I get that job back? More than
I wonder who ask could do a better job than me?
You know, like a Ctelia Piccola or something like that
would smash it. I think, you know, should be great
something something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, it'd be interesting to know whether it comes back.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I loved it, by the way, like I loved the
Australian version. And you know what's really a really strange
tidbit is Sam who I think one. I think he
was the guy that was from Queensland. He was very
attractive and more a cowboy hat. You know, it's a
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Well spoiler alert, he didn't win. I mean spoiler alert,
but you.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Know, you know, we haven't one second series that was
that was a twist, but he was kind of he
was the puppet master all the way through and until
it bit him.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
On the bump.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
That's right. He was the antagonist. But so I just
wanted to tell you this that episode of my podcast,
and this is episode five hundred and fifty. So, like
I've done a lot of these, but I remember me
chatting to him is my most downloaded podcast ever. Really,
how weird is that is.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That because he's got a lot of it, because he's
got a big social media following, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I don't think so. I think that people were you
know how sometimes people's personalities polarize and sort of penetrate
an audience in a way that.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I saw some of the chat about about and people
were infuriated by him.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
But he should playing the game, you know to a point.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I think people were just up in arms that there
was how dishonest he was.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And I was like, you know what the game's called, right,
he just lets him to the brand being treacherous. Yeah,
that's what he's that's what he's doing. But I suppose it's.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Sometimes people I would say, oh, it's the worst season ever,
and people say it's the best season ever. I think
because you were so frustrated by it, by the whole thing,
because you wanted the Traders to be voted out and
you know, for the facebo to get a win here
and there. But they went totally against script and people
were you know, pulling their hair out over it.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
But also they couldn't look away to tune in the
next week. You know, obviously not enough people because we
were canned, but we go about behind the scenes or
something different.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
There was a little bit of tension when we finished
that final night shoot. We had you know, we had
the crew was packing up, but we you know, produce
as an iron sort of final three contestants.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
There was a few drinks.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
That came out, you know, as people are sort of
packing up and you know we clocked off.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
There was definitely still a little bit of tension.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
There's money involved, isn't there And people had already sort
of been there in their own mind, spent that money,
had it in the bank, and then it ripped away
from him.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That wasn't like, oh, well, you know, it's the where
it goes.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
There was a little tens I think that then that dissipated,
and you know, there was an initial kind of initial hour.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Or two I think after the after that result, they were.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Think we need to pitch the show back to Channel Line.
You can stay there at nine. It's a great role
to pay.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Look, I'm happy to have a second gig. That more money.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
We'll set the traders, not in Australia, somewhere else. Do
you want to go well, I mean the.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Show shot answerdam I remember the course.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I'm happy to you know, they shoot the American and
the European version of that Scottish castle.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Why don't we just go and go and steal their set.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's absolutely what we need to do. But for people
listening to this podcast and who have been watching the
ads of the Floor, I really need you to give
the show a chance and bring your friends, bring your
family in to watch it because it is something so
fun which we rarely get to do. It kind of
feels like appointment television, which we rarely can create anymore.
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And have a good time watching this show because watch.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It with people, watch it with people more people better.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You're all watching the same screen, which which is so
foreign to anyone.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Kind of under twenty one, I know, but even under
twenty five.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I think they ones use their own screens, their own
ear pods and everything. Yeah, you can sit down and
you get to have a collective experience.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Right you should want. Roger.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I have to say thank you so much for being
so generous with your time and chatting with me today
about the show I'd like to see. I can't wait
to see what people's read.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Actually, Benjamin jeeus amazing
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast last week Their Life. Hey guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris
and I want to thank you for clicking on my
podcast today where I go behind the scenes with the
biggest players in Australian television. This week, I'm joined by
the one and only Roger Corser, a name you would
definitely recognize from say Doctor, Doctor, Underbelly and pretty much
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every major Australian drama that has been made over the
last two decades. He is a powerhouse in scripted television,
but more recently we have seen him take the leap
into the world of TV hosting. You might remember him
as the mysterious front man of The Traders, where let's
be honest, he was playing more of a character than
just being Roger Corser. But in Channel nine's new primetime
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game show The Floor, we're finally seeing the real Roger
and it turns out that was a bit of a
challenge for him. Now, if you're wondering how The Floor works,
here's the gist. Eighty one contestants stand on a massive
led grid, each occupying a square representing their area of
trivial expertise. In each round, a contestant is randomly selected
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to challenge a neighbour's player in the neighbour's specialty. They
face off in a rapid fire forty five second duel,
answering visually based questions. The winner claims the losers square
and category, expanding their territory, the ultimate goal being to
conquer the entire floor and take home a grand prize
of two hundred thousand dollars. In our chat today, Roger
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opens up about the shift from being an actor to
a presenter and a very different way audiences seem to
perceive you. In each of those roles. We'll also get
the scoop on filming the Floor in Amsterdam, why they
took so many Australians across the globe, and how the
hell that even seemed to work logistically. Plus, we will
hear Roger's thoughts on Roblow, who hosted the US version,
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and whether or not he felt the pressure of stepping
into those very polished shoes. So guys, sit back and
relax and enjoy as we dive into the wild, wonderful
and slightly chaotic world of the Floor with Roger Corser.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Benjamin, Hi, mate, how are you very good?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm in my son's room and it's away from the
school holidays, you see, so there's there's a ruckus downstairs.
So I thought I'd find a corner of the house
that might be a little bit more quiet.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I remember once Hughesy was doing one of these chats
and he had the kids home from school holidays. But
he had to run away because there was an incident
and it turned out one of his kids had put
the toaster in the kitchen underneath like a shelf, which
had basically set to his kitchen.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And he continued to the interview.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
He stayed doing the interview because I mean, you've would
have met Dave hughes over the years. I mean, he's committed.
He will give you the content, you know what I mean.
So he's he's sitting there rabbiting on about I don't
know what shoul it was. It was Hughesy, we have
a problem, yeah, rat choe, but yeah he was his house.
Now he burned down, and he let it happen just
to talk.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I mean, I'd probably say can I call you back?
That my kids, my kids might be slightly threatened. But
I'll tell you what. He's committed to promoting a show,
isn't he? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Absolutely, I'm so excited to have this chat with you
because I am so invested in this show. I watched
it with my best friend and we became so competitive
because this show is so interactive, like nothing we've ever
seen before. Talk to me about how this came across
your desk.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I'd actually heard about it coming out through my publicist actually,
and you know, she'd heard about the US version the
robb Blow hosts, and she actually gave me a heads
up and said, why didn't you see who's doing it?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We didn't even know that Nima was doing it, so
we made I made some inquiries through my agent and
they asked me questions and we.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Found out so we actually, I want to say it
wasn't chasing, but it was just like, oh that could
be interesting because I think after doing you know, doing
The Traders, and I mean it was nine that first
got me onto just a feeling today extra, which was
sort of you know, sort of got me into oh, okay,
maybe I can do something.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's different to acting on the Telly.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So so yeah, it's just a bit more open to
maybe presenting shows.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You know, some of the acting work was getting a
little slower.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And still, I mean, I'm just in a different category
now that I'm over fifty, so you know that work
is in, you know, there's not as much of it
right now for me at the moment, so you just
sort of open up and look at look a different thing.
So so, yeah, I'd heard about it and I was interested,
and then you know, they had some other people in mind,
and then we started chatting and eventually I think I
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went through a couple of meetings and we all sort
of spoke about what, you know, where the show was sitting,
and I kind of liked it. I'm a dad, and
it's a good you know, it's it's broad in a
great way. Sometimes people can use the word broad as
it's too broad. It doesn't sort of hit one genre
or anything. I think the fact that this is something
your primary school kids can kick your butt in a category.
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Or you can have someone with four degrees, you know,
university degrees, you know, excel in something, and then someone
who just throlls their phone, you know, for all.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Their information excel as well.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Any any sort of walk of life can find their
category that they're good at.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
But sometimes you hear oh, you see a category coming up,
and you go, oh, I can't wait for eighties movies,
and you think, yeah, that's what I'm going to be
really good at. But I found that some of the
categories that I thought I'd have absolutely no shot whatsoever,
I would beat my best mate, who is the smartest
person I know. She's a female engineer. I've never been
smarter in a room with her ever, except some categories
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of the floor.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You're welcome, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I thought we're here to boost people's ego, make them,
you know, walk away from the show and go I
feel a little better about myself, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But it's great. It's a great leveler. I've said this
before about the show.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
We had the periodic table on as one of our categories,
and people avoided it, like the play was so scared
of it. And we were saying in production that, well,
you know, we're not going to be asking really the
super you know, in depth questions about period of table.
I think, just go and basically learn learn the period
of table, which is finite.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's finite. It's basically if you could just go in
in one night or two nights kind of learn eighty
percent of it.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You probably do pretty well as opposed to the person
who is very science based knowing nothing about pop culture.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And then where do you start with the celebrity.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Couples if you have no prior prior knowledge, I mean,
where do you start?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Where do you end?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Like I think that's a harder thing if you have
no sort of pop culture references. Where you start is
harder learn than some of the other ones. And the
one let's just go and do you know this for dummies?
You know, you go and pick up the Geography for
Dummies or something like that and go, well, I could
probably do a lot. You do do a lot to
do it at least help myself, you know, in one
night with capital cities or something like that, because you're
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going to know a.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Few just to sort of top up. Because the X
factor here is that you.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Could have two people that it isn't there that the
category has been passed down because you know, someone lost it.
You know it's been passed down, and so you've got
two people it's not their number one choice.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So you're equally got like novices at it. So a
little bit of study. You know you can you can
get on, you can get on quite well.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I started screaming about like pick the ones that are
left of center, like do you know what I mean?
Like pick the ones that are like babies, because they're
really basic. Like you started off thinking I don't want
to do babies. I don't even have any children, So
I was like, I can't do that one. But then
babies was a category that I could actually do. It
was bizarre.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, we at the kitchen draw was the one that
when I saw that, I thought that was absolutely anything.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know, they just throw absolutely anything in there.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I mean, and the pressure of having to do it
up there, you know, under all the studio lights, and
we've got you know, eighty one contestants.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
When we start, We've got a studio audience as well.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Some people who you know probably spoke, you talked a
good game, you know. I want to chat to everyone
on the floor, you know, and not all that made
that and made it. But I'm to the final cut,
but I'm having the conversations in between and getting to
know people, and they certain amounts of that. Some people
were super confident, super cocky, I mean, perhaps to try
and throw people off and intimidate other people and did
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they get up there?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And you know, basically think about our game.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
If you don't know what passed straight away, you know
and gone to something else. But people forget that one
thing and well I'm and r for ten plus seconds
just draining there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Why it's just doesn't matter how much you know you did.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We've hit the one you know, the one spot, you know,
blind spot in your knowledge of this category. And because
you're desperate to get the right answer out, you won't
pass quickly. And then some people let fifteen seconds go
past and then they're shot.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You like, why would you do that to yourself? Did
you watch the Rob Low version? Because you know what
I did was that I watched the Roger cors version first,
and then I went to the Rob Low version, which
I think will be strange for people to hear. But
because I wasn't really that, I wasn't as drawn to
this idea and this concept as much. When I liked
this Australian version, I needed to go and see the
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Rob Loan version.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well, I mean, you know, hit the job and I mean,
I tell you what, he's a very attractive sixty year
old man you got to say.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I mean, I'm tend almost a decade behind him, and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Roger, you sound a bit like him. This is going
to sound strange because he's obviously a really accent, but
there's times of your intonation of your voice where I'm like,
that's kind of because Rob Low, you can't help a
kind of you know, we've been watching him in movies
for years. I'm forty five, so like he kind of
has this way of talking. Anyway, I started looking at
it and being like, I think Roger Corsa is one
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hundred percent the Australian version of Rob Low.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, you know, you know, he's had a great career.
I like that half of his career, but thank you,
but he does a great job.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We had we look, we had some We have one
of the same producers on.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The show can come over and help help us out.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Just with the format, it's a pretty fast paced sort
of show with lots of moving parts and lots of people.
You know, there's a little bit of people wrangling and involved,
and the jewels go past pretty quickly and obviously there's
got to be someone there giving the tick all the
cross so there's a lot of moving parts going on
in the production you know, sort of in the with
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the production team, and it was a little bit of
a learning curve for me to sort of get amongst
this sort of crazy kind of live you know, shiny.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Game show kind of format. But I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I enjoyed it in the end, and I definitely sort
of warmed into feeling more comfortable on stage. I sort
of just you know, by about halfway through is I
started to just really sort of find my feet.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I just love it when they get they can't guess
the answers that you are the answer. It's always funny
because I always think, you know, like under Belly, this
is a promo, so like, forgive me channel nine. I'm
not giving this away, but I think it's it's on
TV at the moment. But someone under Belly wrong. Oh my,
that show is so goddamn iconic. Like one that doesn't
get that show needs to be immediately eliminated because that's.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You just dropped your right.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You're forty five and fifty two, and you know, I've
got I've got a twenty two year old daughter and
a fifteen year old son, and you know, at thirteen
and down to nine, but you know, for the twenty
two year old under it was eighteen years ago, there
were four you know, so I mean for anyone between
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maybe twenty and thirty, a big chunk of television viewers
or you know, people who were watching media in some form,
it's an whole show. It's like me thinking about you know,
a nineen sixties cop show that were like homicide or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know that we made so.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Then and there would have been released reruns of that
on a Telly where I don't know, you know, well,
I suppose Underbelly is available to stream, but where the
people are drawn to do that. But for a different
generation like your own, it was big because it was
an Underbelly was a time where I think we were
used to watching a lot of overseas shows and someone
swung back to some Aussie content. I think Underbelly was
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a big part of that.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I know friends that had Underbelly parties during COVID and
they would watch the first series. Oh wow, it was
like it had a second coming, like hearing that with
people were like they were ordering in Italian food like
mobster style, and we're rewatching this show. And the weird
thing about it was when I heard that. I went
back to watch it as well, and it still stands
(12:11):
up that show, do you know what I mean? Like
it's such a bizarre time capsule, and it was like
lightning in a bottle because it didn't matter how many
times I tried to remake it.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, I think it was. I mean everything about IP.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
You look a look at Hollywood and everyone, you know,
the top of ten grossing films over the last couple
of years, they're mounted them that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Have you know, pre existing IP.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
They're either a sequel so it's their own IP, or
it's Barbie, or it's you know, it's based on something
else where. So true true crime has a version of
that because you're familiar with the people and the stories
and the headlines, so the audience you're not sort of
having to explain, you know, from ground zero, exactly what
it is. And with Underbelly, in one way, it was
(12:50):
a detriment for a sequel. We couldn't have a sequel
all the all the pending court cases, they're all the
pending court cases, and you couldn't continue the story where
we'd finished it because it was locked up in court
and you couldn't influence a jury so you can't you know,
doing a dramatized version or something, you know, and that
might influence a jury. But the good thing about about
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being in the zeitgeist, especially in Melbourne, I mean especially
in Victoria where these people were front page news so often,
so it became infamous because we got banned.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I don't even remember what we were banned.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
My mum is a primary school teacher and she was
making I shouldn't say this, my mom's going to come
for me now, I copy. He was making pirated copies
at school and handing them out to the teachers.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
People were driving up to the border, yes Aubury Ordonga,
passing it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Over and passing it over, and like people going up
and getting their DVD burnt copies.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Which is the irony of someone different black market, you know,
sort of on a bunch of show about gangsters.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And your kids.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Would think that he's so bizarre telling them about the
floppy disk and the hard disk, you know what, they're like,
Oh my god. Anyway, we're going off on a tangent.
I need to ask you about the rationale as to
why a show like this, because it would have been
expensive to fly everyone overseas, so far away? Why are
you shooting so far away? It certainly wasn't to keep
it under wraps because most of the cast ended up
(14:12):
blabbing about being on the show anyway, so we found
out before time. But why be shooting over? It was Amsterdam,
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, it's just in my contract. I just I just
needed it to be in you know good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Now, look, yes, it is expensive for a cast to
come over, but a lot were sourced from Europe, so
expats in the UK and the Netherlands and you know,
adjoining European countries where you know, I suppose it's a
one hundred and fifty pounds easy jet flight and you
know it's only we shot it in the weeks weeks
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accommodation and some people were flying from Australia because I
did want the right mix of people. Yeah, so you know,
you're going to have probably a lot of twenty and
thirty somethings that are in Europe because it's kind of
their time when they're traveling. Not all, but like that's
you know, a good chunk of people you probably find
that demographic touring and traveling in Europe, and then some
other people you know, so we could make sure we
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sort of know, ticked the boxes and had people from
different parts of Australia in rural as well, not just
see people and you know, all backgrounds and all kind
of vocations and different categories that were their expertise and age.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Groups and everything.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So some people were flown from Australia, but I think
that was only probably ten to fifteen percent.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Actually, okay, well that's because the set is huge.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I mean, the things as big as a basketball court.
That the screen, that the floor they're standing on. You know,
that's not something you're just you know, putting you you know,
in your ludgage and sent back over to Australia. It's
a big bit of kit. And it's nine episodes. So look,
if we were a five times a week game show,
thirty five forty weeks the year, maybe that's worth building
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the studio for for nine episodes. And even we have
a rope cam which is a bit like a spider cam,
but just on the one access back and forth, like
just to have the operator like he's just done the
German version, just done the next second season of the
Netherlands version, you know, just done some other European versions.
He you know, they were a well oiled machine. So
we got over there, we had two days tech and
we're into it. You know, we've obviously done a lot
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of pre production back here in Australia and they had
a great team doing that, screening all the testants and
and you know, working at aly categories and everything.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So we hit the ground running. So yes, I'm sure
it's expensive.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
To do it over there, but the amount of time
we spent there, it was a well oiled machine and
we sort of get in and get out.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's something about the way in which the production of
this show shows contestants on a game show that we've
never seen before. Like I can't even explain this to you,
and I don't know whether or not you and the
accountless interviews you've done have been able to do it.
But we get to know these people in a way
that I don't think has ever been done. Like Deal
or Nodeal Grant Dania. He might ask them one question,
but for some reason we are connecting through to these
(16:51):
personalities and wanting to follow them. We choose, oh, we
want that person to lose. Like it's a really strange
concept because we for these people in a way that
I've never seen on a game show before. Why do
you think that is the case?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well, that's the thing about you for and what why
foremots some work and some don't. And it's a magic source,
isn't it? And I think you know you've got some
great elements put together.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And the things you really like about a game.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Show like Quick Essentially it's an easy to get battle
when we have our duel, you know, to break it
down to it, it's visual and it's a one on
one take turns and basically you can just yell out
at the screen. And that's why it's so great to
play at home. Getting to know our contestants, our characters.
Over nine episodes is a longer run than even a
the classic carryover champ a thirteenth century or something. Five
(17:40):
nights was at the top there. But we're also getting
much more like a reality show. We're getting their opinion
because we're asking their strategy out loud, so they're talking.
There's a little bit of trash talk, which is kind
of fun, and sometimes that's you can perceive that it's funny,
and sometimes you might go, oh, I didn't like that
person for saying that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So we can see.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Their personality where you know, I mean hard PiZZ Sometimes
there's a bit of trash talk, but mostly from the
from the host, but you know, there's a little bit from.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The contestants there.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
But we get our contestants, you know, they're interacting with
each other as well, so we get a little bit
of bravado and some other people keeping their cards close
to their chest. Some people are just telling absolute untrues
about themselves to try and throw people off about it.
I love what they know or may not know about
a category they want people they're sort of bluffing about. Oh,
(18:27):
I'm so glad I inherited that category because I you know,
I was once some nuclear scientist or something.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
There get opened. They're not, but they're I think, I
think one.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Person, I don't want to say much category, but there's
a there's a category where someone is just bluffed the category.
The absolutely nothing about it. Yeah, people stayed away from
it for a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I just am excited to see people engage with something
that's so new, you know what I mean. Like a
lot of these TV shows, like it was almost like
what you were saying about films, where we're like we
only get sequels and Marvel and Barbie and brands, you know,
and it's like we're not stepping outside of the circle
and looking at taking a chance on something that's completely new.
So when you see Channel nine say we're going to
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put this sort of a game show for nine episodes,
it's seven thirty at nine. It's a ballsy move and
I can't wait to see how it lands. I kind
of feel like it could easily be huge.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think that's what you know.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I feel that nine are really back, and you can
tell when you can a network really supports the show.
You can see it on screen. I'm worried about people
could be sick in my face before they even see
the show because I'm like, oh, there's so many primos.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Think about it, like Rob Low, You're the attractive bloke
that we get to see. And what's so smart about
this decision with you this time is Roger, we do
get to know you a little bit better because with
the Traders, I felt like they gave you a caricature
to sort of play, which worked and it didn't work
at times. Where with this show, you know, I've met
you in the flesh a number of times. I've gotten
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a sense over time meeting you in real life about
who you are as a person, and I feel like
that comes across in this.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
That was probably my I think I pushed the character
in the Trader is a bit too much problem, probably
because I was scared of being because I'm used to
keeping a little bit separate like you in interviews. I
don't try and sort of hide too much. But you know,
if people someone doesn't like show you do, you can go, well,
that's that's a character, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You put yourself out there as yourself and I just
I don't like that. Host No, there's no other version
of yourself is there?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So well that's the life, isn't it. The actor can
say that, you know, like when you are doing that,
and I guess it is taking away a net from
underneath you. I remember sitting next to you at a
film premiere once years ago. It was The Square I
think was the name of the film, was a Joel
Legit in film they did at the Nova, and I
remember thinking, wow, Roger Cours is really shy compared to
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what I thought you were going to be. I was
really taken aback by your shyness. I would have thought
I think a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I think a lot of people in who actors or
have you know you got you get one or two
gigs under your But this is what I say to
other actors.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We laugh at you know, we'll go to an award
ceremony and they'll be.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
This year's in a reality TV contestants I mean from
a certain type of show, usually not not all of them,
And how confident they are strutting down a red carpet
when they've you know, I don't know that it's because
of social media now and people are out there and
more confident where it took a long time, and I'm
sure for.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
A lot of other actors.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Until you get what you feel like is a body
of work under your belt, that you feel that you're accepted,
or that you deserve to be at a premiere or
a red carpet or at an industry event or anything
like that, you know, it takes a while. Man.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Maybe that's just my generation that you have so to
had to earn your strips.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Where I think anyone that suddenly gets you know, name
the number of followers, what you know.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You see is making fifty one hundred and ten thousand.
I don't know that all of a sudden, there's.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
A I'm here, I've arrived, and it's a it's just
a different.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But everyone's out there, everyone's presenting themselves in a way
that only people in music and entertainment had to do.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Twenty years ago. You know, your local tradesmen didn't have
to turn a camera around on them and look good
and present and go, you know, this is what I do,
and you know, tell themselves yeah with me.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, but you know I have to tell you that
those people that now are drawn to reality this is
now a different podcast. But I'm very fascinated by unpacking
a little bit of this. But like I think people
who want to go on reality TV are drawn to
the fame of it, of the red carpet. They've been
preparing that for that their whole life. Where I know
my friends who actors, and there's this sort of nature
(22:40):
of the work, you know, and wanting to be good
at the work. When you're an actor, you're not drawn
to that industry to be walking the red carpets and
talking about yourself. And an actual fact, most of the
best actors in this world hate talking about themselves.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, You've got a difference between loving the craft that
you're doing.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Whether you're a musician, you just love playing the guitar,
the piano or whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And you know, people have ambition. I'm going to say that.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You know there is a healthy ego either that comes
along along with that. But it's not just the desire
to be the under the lights for the applause. I
mean it's a good it's a nice rush with you.
You know, you do a stage show or back when
I was some rock bands and you know, you get
a big crowd and they're.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Applauding and going off is a great rush.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
So the adulation in a crowd sense is great, but
purely just being recognized or that kind of thing is
purely being that being the motivation. It just seems a
bit foreign to me, you know, multiple time the reality
of stars. Do they love the craft of getting on
a show and being the bitchy one or like, like
is that what they enjoy?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think there is a bit of that, to be
honest with you, because like it's now so many years
gone from doing Big Brother, but I did enjoy I
could have done that show as a social experiment, if
that makes any sense, without cameras and it ever being
played on TV. I was fascinated by the idea of
Big Brother, and I really was there for ninety seven
days with no phone, and it was a life changing experience,
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just the social experiment side of things, what it does
to you as a person. But then I knew there
was a lot of people in that show that were
just there because they talked about it all the time.
When we get out of this show, everyone's going to
you know, I'm going to have this and I'm going
to have Instagram followers. That to me was really like, oh, so,
I think that there are people like me who were
drawn to being on these reality TV shows for the experience, the.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Actual experience, as opposed to always having that yeah, this
is a publicity tool for me.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
So I didn't do anything on Instagram for three months
basically after I did Big Brother because I was scared
of it. You know, I didn't like the people. I
actually found it really uncomfortable. My whole life, I used
to pretend to walking down the streets, what would be
like to be PAPARAZZI thought that would be fun, and
then I found that when I was in that experience,
I found it extremely intrusive and uncontrollable. And when I
got my notoriety back because now that show's so old,
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I was like, I'd never do that again.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know, I've never had to really worry about any
of that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And I think if you're a boring, relatively boring as in
like nothing controversial. I mean, I'm married with you know,
four kids of three kids that live at home with me.
We often go out to things. It's not like you
know who's he dating or who's you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So no, one really don't have to worry about any
of that.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, is because there's no juice there. It's kind of boring,
So so I don't. I'm out in the suburbs as
well in Sydney.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'm not in the inner city where you know, all
the things are happening, so just it's just never. The
only time I've been packed in my own suburb is
because of other people. I mean, there was a controversial
football figure around here that had.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Done it was, you know, in the courts for something,
and I.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Went past the cafe and now I was sort of
stalking his home, and they got me because I walked
past and there was another another TV personality that was
stalking them who look quite quite close to me, and
try to trying to wait for them to, you know,
to appear at home because they were in the media
for various reasons. I happened to again walk past, so
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I think, like, oh, I suppose we've got to be option,
you know, and.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
That's the only two times that's it, because they was
talking other people.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I want to go back to the original thing, which
is that Roger, where we started this was about you
worrying about, you know, letting us, letting a guide down,
not being a character and showing us Roger Courser. It
seemed to me like you were trying to say that
you thought you were boring, where in actual fact, you know,
that's your take on it. I think people are fascinated
by you, and I watched them watching the floor, and
(26:30):
I think what you bring to that show is the
right level of personality and doing the job, doing the
doing the role, you know. And I think if this
show continues on and we continue to see more seasons
of it, I think you need to lean more into
the vulnerability of just being Roger Krser and allowing us
to see a little bit seeing a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
You know what. I warmed into this, and I was
pushed by by our producers, you know that the voices
in my head, in my ear and my sort of
going ask the more like and I realized I was
worried about getting this very correct live performance down, and
they sort of said.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Look, yes, it's got a live feeld, but we can
go back at any time. So you stuff something up,
don't worry. It's don't be so worried.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Like, take some chances and you know, and if it's
too much, it doesn't work, we will cut it out.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's not live, live live, you know, it's heavily edited.
Now all the.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Games aren't obviously they're they're run from start fities, but
all the pattern in between, you know, because they I realized,
they want four times the amount of powder with the
contestants and then they'll pick and choose the best bit,
you know. So as soon as I kind of understood that,
then I relax. And when I try and crack a
joke and it doesn't work, just don't hang me. Just
don't use it, you know, because and then I realized
that that's my job is My job is to introduce
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a lot of people, you know, these characters which is
a high attrition rate. So after a couple of episodes,
we'll lose some people and you'll start to see the
same faces crop up, and then you'll start to bond
and so I'll you know, have more of a chat
with that person and ask them more and you know,
encourage them to interact between and so, you know, if
it's the second season fingers fingers crossed, you know, I
(28:07):
sort of know going in from episode one what my
role is, and yes, it's to show a bit of
my personality, but it is within for the purpose of
you know, if I can give a bit to get
a bit, that's the reason, you know, because we want.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
To see these people shine up there. We want to
see all those fun moments.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
We want people that you can identify with, and we
want people to have a gag and a laugh and
and you know, give us some great light moments.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
They'll follow you as well, you know, to finish off
the chat, thank you for opening up and talking to
me about And sometimes I feel like I start asking
people questions and you're like, this is why really famous
people don't do podcasts, because then they get one like
me asking them questions that they.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Were very disarming like what Andrew Dentlem was, you know,
maybe you can have your.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Own show, Like, Yeah, I sat next to him once
on a plane and I couldn't speak to him because
I just loved him on I loved his ability to
unearthed conversation. Yeah, it's very incredible because he's the best questions.
We're always something that came off, like the third question.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
It was very disarming and an incredible, incredible show.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
So good, and that's what people want at the end
of the day, is they want to listen to conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's a hard job interviewing because I have to do
it in small ways on the show. But I think
if people are doing a lot of these things and
they hear and it's the same and you think, oh right,
well they're going to get that same question seventeen times,
I'm probably going to get a very similar response to
the prepared response as opposed to that question that's a
(29:30):
little bit left us center.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'd love to know. I always finished the podcast with
what is something from behind the scenes? And it always
stresses people actually think, fuck, I haven't had a chance
to think about what's behind the scenes or a good
answer to this question. But I was wondering if and
if you feel comfortable answering this, because The Traders are
so big around the world and people keep talking about it.
If Australia decides to do this show again and you're
(29:52):
now this superstar on the floor and you can't do it,
have you ever thought about who would be a good
replacement on that show?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Plenty of people who could do it, of course.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And I was thinking about you. I was thinking you
must have thought at some point, because The Traders is
huge around the world, like it's so in the UK,
like it's actually succeeded in every environment except Australia. At
New Zealand it was huge, and so the idea that
it didn't really work here means that people are going
to circle around that idea. And I think the floor
is your better if that's not too rude to say, Like,
(30:24):
I think it's more you're laying So I thought at nighttime,
you must be thinking it's gonna Who would be the
right person to do that?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I've got to say I probably I'm not thinking who
should take that job that I lost?
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Probably how would I get that job back? More than
I wonder who ask could do a better job than me?
You know, like a Ctelia Piccola or something like that
would smash it. I think, you know, should be great
something something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, it'd be interesting to know whether it comes back.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I loved it, by the way, like I loved the
Australian version. And you know what's really a really strange
tidbit is Sam who I think one. I think he
was the guy that was from Queensland. He was very
attractive and more a cowboy hat. You know, it's a
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Well spoiler alert, he didn't win. I mean spoiler alert,
but you.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Know, you know, we haven't one second series that was
that was a twist, but he was kind of he
was the puppet master all the way through and until
it bit him.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
On the bump.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
That's right. He was the antagonist. But so I just
wanted to tell you this that episode of my podcast,
and this is episode five hundred and fifty. So, like
I've done a lot of these, but I remember me
chatting to him is my most downloaded podcast ever. Really,
how weird is that is.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That because he's got a lot of it, because he's
got a big social media following, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I don't think so. I think that people were you
know how sometimes people's personalities polarize and sort of penetrate
an audience in a way that.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I saw some of the chat about about and people
were infuriated by him.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
But he should playing the game, you know to a point.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I think people were just up in arms that there
was how dishonest he was.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And I was like, you know what the game's called, right,
he just lets him to the brand being treacherous. Yeah,
that's what he's that's what he's doing. But I suppose it's.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Sometimes people I would say, oh, it's the worst season ever,
and people say it's the best season ever. I think
because you were so frustrated by it, by the whole thing,
because you wanted the Traders to be voted out and
you know, for the facebo to get a win here
and there. But they went totally against script and people
were you know, pulling their hair out over it.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
But also they couldn't look away to tune in the
next week. You know, obviously not enough people because we
were canned, but we go about behind the scenes or
something different.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
There was a little bit of tension when we finished
that final night shoot. We had you know, we had
the crew was packing up, but we you know, produce
as an iron sort of final three contestants.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
There was a few drinks.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
That came out, you know, as people are sort of
packing up and you know we clocked off.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
There was definitely still a little bit of tension.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
There's money involved, isn't there And people had already sort
of been there in their own mind, spent that money,
had it in the bank, and then it ripped away
from him.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That wasn't like, oh, well, you know, it's the where
it goes.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
There was a little tens I think that then that dissipated,
and you know, there was an initial kind of initial hour.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Or two I think after the after that result, they were.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Think we need to pitch the show back to Channel Line.
You can stay there at nine. It's a great role
to pay.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Look, I'm happy to have a second gig. That more money.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
We'll set the traders, not in Australia, somewhere else. Do
you want to go well, I mean the.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Show shot answerdam I remember the course.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I'm happy to you know, they shoot the American and
the European version of that Scottish castle.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Why don't we just go and go and steal their set.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's absolutely what we need to do. But for people
listening to this podcast and who have been watching the
ads of the Floor, I really need you to give
the show a chance and bring your friends, bring your
family in to watch it because it is something so
fun which we rarely get to do. It kind of
feels like appointment television, which we rarely can create anymore.
(34:00):
And have a good time watching this show because watch.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It with people, watch it with people more people better.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You're all watching the same screen, which which is so
foreign to anyone.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Kind of under twenty one, I know, but even under
twenty five.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I think they ones use their own screens, their own
ear pods and everything. Yeah, you can sit down and
you get to have a collective experience.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Right you should want. Roger.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I have to say thank you so much for being
so generous with your time and chatting with me today
about the show I'd like to see. I can't wait
to see what people's read.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Actually, Benjamin jeeus amazing
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