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Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the 14th of
July 2025, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News.
I'm your host, Brian Garish. I'm delighted to be joined today
both by Ben Rubin and Diane Rasmussen Mccaddy.
They'll both be joining me by live link, so a little bit
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lonely. Excuse me, a little bit lonely
here in the studio. But perhaps most importantly, we
should comment on the fantastic weather here in Plymouth.
As you can see from my backdrop,the rain and grey sky of earlier
is cleared and we're left with this beautiful day.
And we can sigh with relief thatmost of the population of UK has
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survived the terrible heat wave that we've been hearing so much
about. So we certainly hope you enjoyed
your weekend. Now, one of the consistent
themes that UK Column has pushedwith our audience is the fact
that we are being attacked as a society by our own government.
And we make no apologies in continuing that theme today
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because the moment we start to think in this way, many of the
government's policies become crystal clear.
So let's just remind ourself of the areas of society that the
government and its agents are busy attacking.
And probably the first one to bring in here is the
Constitution. And today we've got a full
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section on the attack on society.
The Constitution is part of that.
Ben is going to be looking at lawfare and English devolution.
Diane is going to be looking at net zero and libraries and
really censorship. And we'll end by having a look
at policing. So a busy news today, but let's
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think of it in in line with these attack vectors of the
Constitution. We've got an attack on free
speech. We've certainly got an attack on
policing. We've got an attack on the law.
This is becoming ever clearer. And of course they want the
children because the children represent the future.
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Now we can come in at slightly different angle and one of the
main headlines from today, the front page is the Daily
Telegraph and you can see the the the headlines very clearly.
Tax rate looms for middle classes.
Well, let's put something alongside that and that is the
UK Support to Ukraine fact sheet, which proudly declares
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that we have committed £18.3 billion to support Ukraine.
So there's going to be a tax raid on the middle classes.
Why? Because we've got a government
that is only keen to support waroverseas, whether it's in Gaza
or Ukraine, and billions of taxpayers money is going to be
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squandered on helping to promotedeath.
But the front page of the Telegraph actually tells us a
little bit more because, well, it actually talks about
migration. And of course the story of the
rubber boats is the big story which most of the media loves to
push. But can you see here the real
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truth in the small print? And of course you can't.
Well let's help you out because in the Telegraph article it's
talking about net migration being close to 1,000,000 people
fairly recently in the Tory administration years.
Now of course no country can survive a million people coming
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into the country each and every year, but that is the reality of
what's happening. And so I'm going to suggest
we're looking at deliberate and calculated madness as the as we
witness the breakdown of our society and mass migration is a
weapon for that. Now, I just want to say before I
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move on that we are always encouraging our audience to dig
in and have a look at the detailthemselves.
So I'm just going to put up thisUK, sorry, UK support for
Ukraine fact sheet. Do go and have a look at it
because there's a lot of detail about the vast amounts of money
that are being pumped into Ukraine in order to keep the war
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going because ultimately that war was about regime change in
Russia. Now, where do we go next?
Well, let's come back to those rubber boats.
And of course Nigel Farage from Reform has been making this one
of his key statements. So let's just remind ourselves
of the sorts of things that he was saying about a year ago.
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What? We can see is a white dinghy.
You think the white ones. Lately we're trying to get some
Intel as to how many are in it. That is the boat that takes us
through. 50. Thousand that have come since
Rishi Sunak became Prime Minister.
I've just spent the last three or four hours on the Channel
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with Nigel Farage where we've essentially looked for migrants
that may be crossing, given thatthe seas, particularly today,
are very calm and the wind is very low.
What we saw was essentially a number of migrant dinghies, but
particularly one in particular which had about 45 migrants on
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it. This was the number that took it
past the 50,000 mark. They were being shepherded by a
French vessel known as the Mink.So there's a typical little
video clip. People who are regular viewers
of UK column news will know thatI'm not personally a fan of
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Nigel Farage. He was getting very excited
about those rubber boats. The figures gone up to 50,000,
but of course, against the backdrop of a million people
coming into the country, or even240,000 Ukrainians, this is a
very small number, but of courseit distracts the population.
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Now, one of the reform MPs, Lee Anderson, has absolutely been
talking about what's going on. So let's just have a look at his
quote here. He says our soft touch
immigration policies have allowed widespread exploitation
of the system. Well, he's nearly on the button
because of course it's the policies themselves that have
allowed these vast numbers of people into the country.
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Not so much a soft touch as a planned attack on the
established population of UK. He went on to say this one that
benefits the policies talking about 1 is one that benefits
everyone except hard working Britons.
It costs the taxpayers billions and exacerbates the housing
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crisis and the strain on public services.
And of course here Lee Anderson is absolutely correct.
This is a policy which is destroying the country and he is
picking up on the real thing which is the policy.
The rubber boats are the froth and the distraction for the
wider public to make them think that immigration is about
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unlawful migration when in fact the bulk of it is lawful policy,
permitted migration. Now are we going to be able to
talk out about mass migration where the government in this
country's already hinted that ifyou do, you're going to quickly
be labelled a right wing extremist or indeed a terrorist?
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But we should also watch the UN,because the United Nations has
been getting very uptight about what it calls misinformation and
disinformation. And the UN is now encouraging
all nations to work together in order to control what is being
said in their countries. Let's just have a little listen
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to what the Secretary General ofthe UN had to say.
The COVID-19 pandemic has highlighted the life changing
power of the Internet. Digital technology has saved
lives by enabling millions of people to work, study and
socialise safely online. But the pandemic has also
magnified the digital divide andthe dark side of technology, the
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lightning fast spread of misinformation, the manipulation
of people's behaviour and more. We can only address these
challenges united through strengthened cooperation, by
establishing real rules to safeguard human rights and
fundamental freedoms, by regaining control over our data,
by countering disinformation andhate speech, and by connecting
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everyone to the Internet. By 2030, Internet Governance
Forum was a crucial role in shaping the conversation, the
vision of an open, free and secure digital future.
And there pins my road map for digital cooperation.
And my recent report on our Common Agenda proposes a global
digital compact aimed at bringing governments, the
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private sector and civil societytogether.
In support of this vision. I hope this forum will create
momentum and spur progress. I urge you to be bold and I wish
you successful deliberations. Thank you.
So he's encouraging A compact toget countries to work together
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in order to increase the censorship.
So they only talk about what theUN and the big global players
talk about. But inside UK we've got
something else going on. We've got an attack on law and
the constitution. And this is best summarised by
this Telegraph article here withthe headline Lord Hermer gives
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himself a veto over government policy.
Now I know that Ben is going to get deeper into this in in just
a moment. But before we hand over, I'll
just remind the people that backin 2015 UK column was warning
about the rise of what we were calling Star Chambers courts
with a single judge and no jury.And if you just search for Star
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Chambers on the UK column website you'll find a number of
articles but including referenceto a male article which was
talking about 3000 trials already being held in secret
under new Fast Track Money saving scheme which ends
centuries of open justice. Well it's nothing to do with
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saving money. What is actually happening is to
remove the system of law in thiscountry and that is presumed
innocent until proven guilty in front of a jury of your peers.
Ben, welcome to today's news andyou're hot on the money today.
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You're hot on the money today with a look at Lawfare, which is
the system that's being used against us.
Absolutely. Hello, Brian.
Hi, Diane. Hi everyone at home.
Great to be here. And as Ryan said, the best way
to understand what's happening around us is to think about the
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fact that you're being attacked by your government.
And one of the major vectors of attack is the legal system.
There's a word for it. It's lawfare, and we define that
as the use of legal systems and principles to achieve strategic
military or political objectives.
The strategic objective in this case is the destruction of the
nation and the imposition of global systems of governance.
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That's what Brian's been talkingabout.
It's what we talk about on a regular basis on the UK column.
Where does that manifest? Well, let's go right to the top
of the legal system. So the Attorney General, Richard
Lord Hermer, as I like to call him and I'm sure he likes to
call himself, he's been in position since last summer, July
5th. He was appointed directly by
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Keir Starmer, who we used to work with actually, as I'll get
on to in a minute. Before that he was head of
chambers at Matrix Chambers, which was originally established
by Cherie Blair. So this guy is completely
ensconced at the top level of the New Labour establishment.
Before that, he was a barrister at Doughty St Chambers, working
directly for Keir Starmer. Keir Starmer was essentially his
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mentor and he basically spent his career making lots of money
on the taxpayer through the legal aid system, defending the
interests of terror suspects andvarious enemies of the British
people, Al Qaeda operatives, members of ISIS, that kind of
thing. Lovely guy.
And he's also a die hard communist essentially.
So he was the editor of the On Guard magazine, which is the
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youth anti fascist movement. Anti fascist of course, not
fascist, although these things do become rather similar at the
extremes. He is heavily involved with
Searchlight magazine, importantly the potentially
communist magazine. They covered him here from his
time at university running for the executive of the National
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Union of Students on an anti fascist platform.
But he was also maintaining those links while he was
practising as a barrister, so there are minuted examples of
him attending Searchlights meetings.
We'll provide some links, You can go and have a look at that
yourself. He's also very close to Nick
Lau, the former editor of Searchlight and then the founder
and still current head of Hope Not Hate, who miraculously
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managed to avoid being charged for incitement last year when he
falsely reported acid being thrown at Muslim women during
the riots in the wake of the Southport killings.
Despite the fact that many others were sent to prison by
the regime are doing much less. They just happen to be on the
other side of the argument. I wonder if Hermer had anything
to do with that. I don't know.
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So how is this lawfare being waged beyond the examples that
I've already provided? So Brian mentioned the Telegraph
article. This was also reported in
similar fashion in the Mail. It also said that the Attorney
General, Lord Hermer, has been accused of handling himself
effective veto over government policy.
Well, how's he doing that? Well, through this document.
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So this is the attorney general's legal risk guidance.
You should go and read it. It's just one page of a four
very short but very powerful anddirect document.
So how does it open up? So first point, a central
element of the rule of law is that everyone, including the
government, is subjected to the law.
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I'll come back to that because it's not actually true.
I'll continue as such. The government is required to
comply with legal obligations arising under domestic and
international law. This is affirmed in the
Ministerial Code, which refers to the overarching duty of
ministers to comply with the law, including international
law, right. So they've they've added that
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because the quote doesn't mention international law.
The quote from the ministerial code just talked about the law.
So Herma has added internationallaw and he's mentioned it twice
in his opening statement. So it's quite clear what he's
getting out, I think. And let's remember this is being
issued to government lawyers to guide them in their duties
coming from the top lawyer in the government.
So people know exactly what's being said here as this is
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distributed around the the various departments of state.
The document continues. I'm skipping ahead a little bit.
As I said, you should go and read the whole thing.
But just to pull out a few more key points here.
Number six, the principal factorfor legal risk is the likelihood
of a legal challenge being successful.
This is essentially what lawyersare being asked to advise on.
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Is there a risk here that we're doing something illegal?
Ultimately, I'll continue again from the point some legal issues
will not or are unlikely to be tested before a court.
For example, they may not be just issuable before domestic
court, which is to say it's entirely possible that they
would not be appropriate for adjudication by a domestic
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court. But nevertheless, for the
purpose of assessing legal risk,you should assume that a
challenge will be brought and consider what a court would be
likely to decide, even if it wouldn't be brought for a
domestic court. Which would suggest that you
need to think about what an international court might say
about this if they were to look at that, even if that is
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incredibly unlikely to happen. Right.
And these are the things that are injected into the decision
making process inside governmentin order to slow things down,
throw a spanner in the works. Yeah.
Ultimately to get the governmentdoing what Herma and the people
that he represents, the global entities that he's promoting the
interests of, want to happen. Right.
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Final point 8, if you are concerned that there is no
tenable legal argument, you should consult your line manager
and legal director before you advise AGO the the Attorney
General's office and LSAG, the Legal Support Advisory Group,
which is an internal body to thethe lawyers operating in the
civil service should should be talked about.
They may need to be alerted at this stage.
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What that means is they definitely need to be alerted at
this stage. Yeah, so he's, he's issuing a
very clear directive to the people working in legal
positions inside the British government.
The international law needs to be considered, even if this
isn't an issue in in domestic legislation.
And you need to tell me exactly what you're doing at every point
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of the process. Right.
I think that's that's abundantlyclear.
Yeah. He's exerting his power.
That's just one example about how how lawfare is being carried
out. But this is happening all over
the place. I'm going to come back to it in
the segment a bit later on. We're just being inundated with
new legislation at the moment. But I also just wanted to flag
this, which Charles mentioned last week, right, which is the,
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the, the right Honourable Sir Brian Leveson, the Investigatory
Powers Commissioner Commissioner, who in that
position actually has the ability to allow British state
operatives to break the law in the interests of protecting the
law, which is what I mentioned earlier, that some of the
government officials don't have to, to actually follow
legislation. That's absolutely true.
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And that sits underneath Brian Leveson's jurisdiction.
He issued this report last week,the independent review of the
criminal courts, which essentially is about denying
access to jury trial constitutional issue that Brian
was mentioning earlier on. And interestingly, and I think
crucially on the front page of that, the cover literally says
when justice sleeps, justice is cancelled.
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And that comes from the Babylonian Talmud, one of the
the key theological documents ofof of Judaism, which might give
some further insight into how and why the law was being
weaponized against the British people in this fashion.
Thank you very much for that. Yes, it is quite incredible when
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we see that on the front cover of his report.
So are we still here in England?Are we operating under English
common law? Is the nature of the country
Christianity? Clearly not when it comes to
Leveson, but let's remind ourselves that this was the man
who several years ago was driving what was essentially,
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let's just come back, sorry, an assault on on the press and this
ultimately left. Sorry.
This ultimately resulted of course in press freedoms being
absolutely curtailed as he pushed through what was
supposedly reforms and protective measures for the
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public. Over the weekend I was sent a
reminder about this Telegraph report, which is back in 2011,
how Labour's favourite lobbyist is pushing the hacking campaign.
And this is when the Telegraph and indeed the Daily Mail were
warning about the organisation Hacked Off and the lobbying
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groups that were clustered around Leveson.
Not least of which was the political charity common Purpose
with the then Chief Executive, Julia Middleton who's featured
on the right hand column of thatimage on screen.
Well, I just wanted to remind people that as we see further
attacks on our common law and the jury system continuing with
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Leveson, of course, one of the people at the helm of that
attack, Common Purpose, or at least Julia Middleton, is still
at work. And I found it interesting that
she's now got an organisation called the Women Economic Forum,
the WEF. And what is she doing?
Well, she's working amongst other things, with women
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emerging from isolation, but she's also back focusing on
young people to make them into future leaders.
And although it's small print, highlighted in the centre of
this article is Europe 101, which she's also involved in.
And if we have a little look at that, we discovered that
essentially this is to engage and increase accessibility for
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young people, young participants, and they're going
to equip those young people withthe networks and skills so that
they can become agents for change.
Now, remember these young peoplehighly susceptible to this type
of reframing, but they are goingto become Julia Middleton's
agents for change. And if we can just put that one
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back on screen for a second, look on the right, because
there's a very interesting quotehere.
It says liquids fill any shape and turn to vapour or ice.
Well, OK, they seep into every corner.
They collect, converge, combine.They go fast or they go slow.
They keep moving. They flow, adapt, evolve.
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Ours is a liquid leadership. Spelling is from the original
website, flowing between us as ageneration.
So this is what Julia is still up to, which is recruiting young
people and training and reframing them to become agents
for change. The change is never declared.
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But here is the Europe 101 initiative as advertised by
Ambassador Schools, which is closely linked into the European
Union. And if we just have a look at a
bit more detail about this organisation, she founded it
with a gentleman called Gordon Bajanai in 2021.
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And if you go and check that name, you will find that you're
straight into enormous wealth and hedge funds.
So we've got hedge funds and young leaders and we simply ask
the question what could possiblygo wrong.
So we are definitely sealing allthe same people in the
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background doing their works to force through a change agenda.
But of course, the population inUK or other Western democracies
are never told what the final destination of that change is.
Before we discuss that in a bit more detail, Diane, welcome to
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the news today. And of course, you're going to
take us into Net 0, which is oneof their key weapons for
inducing fear and anxiety in thepopulation in in order to help
smooth through that very change agenda.
Yeah, absolutely, Absolutely. Thanks Brian, and hello Ben.
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It's good to be here today. I found out this morning it was
just reported on the Guardian and the Telegraph and other
mainstream sources that our net zero secretary Ed Miliband is
going to tell MPs who reject net0 policies that they are
betraying future generations. If we can just put this quote up
here from here on the screen, hesaid.
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I feel a deep sense of responsibility to tell them the
truth about what we know about the climate and nature crisis.
I want this to become an annual statement where where it's an
exercise in radical truth telling.
I thought that's what we did on UK column.
But apparently Ed Miliband does it instead about the state of
the climate in nature. And what he's talking about with
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this annual statement is he is now going to come up with what
he calls a state of the climate address to the Commons, setting
out the findings of in this case, what is now of the 1st, I
believe, Met Office LED report that says the UK is already
facing extreme and its effect. So this is going to be an annual
event coming from the energy that net zero secretary, there's
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more reporting about this, aboutthe net office release saying
that there's profound concern from from the scientists saying
that this extreme heat, you know, because we had a little
bit of nice weather over the weekend.
So now we're all experiencing global boiling.
Of course, that this is now the norm in the UK, which has not
been my experience for the past 10 years.
But anyway, the increasing frequency of heat waves and
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flooding raises fears over health, infrastructure and how
society functions, as reported by The Northern Echo, which is a
local media outlet up here whereI am in the north of England.
The Reform U KS stance on net 0 targets and carbon emissions in
County Durham in particular, which is what I'd like to focus
on as an example of just a certain area that is enacting
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these global policies, has been questioned.
So if we can put Karen Allison up here on screen, she is the
cabinet member for Neighbourhoods and Environment,
Durham County Council. And she said, and I have to say,
of course, that in Durham CountyCouncil, the Reform UK is kind
of the ones in charge right now since the most recent election.
And she said Reform were electedwith a mandate to review net
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zero and to identify efficiencies and savings for the
people of County Durham. And it seems as though they may
be trying to actually, actually follow up on that.
Back in June of this year, Mark Wilkes, who was a Lib Dem former
cabinet member for neighbourhoods and climate
change, asked the new Reform administration whether it would
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continue the previously agreed council ambition to reduce its
carbon footprint and achieve netzero.
And that's because during the campaign that they're that they
were doing, Reform UK told voters that it would scrap net
zero and energy levies to save households hundreds of pounds
per year. Councillor Wilkes, however, said
that pushing back on this thing that our low carbon teams are
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trying to decarbonize us has achieved some amazing positive
benefits for our council, our communities, our county and our
businesses. And also, quote, this has
generated huge savings for the council and helped to secure
millions of pounds of grant funding.
Now what I would like to know, and I'm still investigating
this, is what what this grant funding was meant to do and
where the funding came from. Back in 2019, Durham County
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Council declared a climate emergency and I have a video
here from a few years ago when this was all starting, setting
out the agenda from during Durham County Council at that
time. Durham County Council has
declared a climate emergency. We've set a target of reducing
our emissions by 60% based in the 2008 baseline by 20-30, and
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we've also set a wider target ofreducing the entire.
County's emissions to neutral by2050.
If you live, work, travel or shop in Durham, we need your
views on how we should approach this problem.
In October 2018, the International Panel on Climate
Change boost a special report which stated that we have 12
years remaining to take drastic action to mitigate climate
change. In response, the Council has
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produced a report which outlinedpotential pathways to being
carbon neutral. The report explores what the
Council needs to do to reduce our emissions, what the county
as a whole needs to do working in partnership, and what central
government needs to do to enableus to meet our targets.
At the moment we use natural gasto heat our homes and other
buildings. Most of our electricity is
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produced by burning natural gas.And coal.
And are buses, trains and cars run on fossil fuels, which, as
well as CO2 pollution, could also lead to worsening health
effects in city centres, such aspoorer air quality.
As the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases, it will
lead to more extreme weather events like storms, flooding,
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droughts and heat waves. We need to act now to mitigate
this as well as prepare ourselves for these weather
events when they do happen. We believe we need to increase
investment in renewables such asthe new solar farm at Tanfield,
the council building. We need to invest more in
efficiency measures like LE DS and insulation.
We need to change our transport to low carbon solutions such as
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ultra low emission vehicles. And we need to strive to protect
and enhance our peatland and woodland which are important
carbon sinks. Now it's time for you to tell us
what you think. So that was five years ago when
they first declared the local emergency.
So Darren Grimes, who is the deputy leader of reform here in
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County Durham, and I will come back to him later in the news,
he's requested that the authority instead to declare
what he's calling a County Durham care emergency rather
than a climate emergency to recognise the, quote, critical
and escalating crisis in children's social care.
And this includes provisions forchildren with special needs and
disabilities. This will be voted on this
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Wednesday at a full council meeting on the motion.
And so that should be an interesting meeting to attend if
you can do so. The current climate emergency
response plan, which I mentioned, has gone through
several items. It has several objectives for
meeting these net zero agenda items.
The current one will run until 2027 if it's left in place.
It warns that the ongoing crisisis, quote, the most urgent
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threat to the well being of our children and the financial
stability of our county. But of course, it seems that
Counsellor Grimes disagrees. We can look at this Climate
County Durham website and this is just a screenshot of the home
page where they say they are turning climate talk into
climate action. This was funded originally by
the Northeast Local Enterprise Partnership, which has now
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become, as of last year, the Northeast Combined Authority.
And according to the website, with a population just under 2
million, the area covered by thecombined authority, We can see
how how huge this authority now is, is the seven local authority
areas of County Durham, Gateshead, Newcastle, N
Tyneside, Northumberland, S Tyneside and Sunderland.
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Kim Guinness is the first northeast mayor.
So again, coming into this last year, she says that she is
committed to getting a northeastthat goes beyond net 0.
So I don't know how you go beyond net zero.
I guess we go negative from there With climate change
policies that change lives and delivering on the green jobs
revolution are her priorities. And according to the website for
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this new combined authority, it is the home of the green energy
revolution. And it says that we will grasp
the opportunity that net zero presents to the Northeast.
And it is important that the transition to a more climate
friendly 1 is a just one. And of course, that goes into
the globalist language if you look at Doctor Paul Raskin's
work and the Club of Rome. So Speaking of the Club of Rome,
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just to kind of end this on a globalist point here.
According to Alexander King, whowas one of the founders of the
Club of Rome, he wrote in a report by the Club of Rome,
which was published in 1991, thecommon enemy of humanity is man
and searching for a new enemy tounite us.
We came up with the idea. We came up with the idea.
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I want to stress that the threatof global warming that the bill.
So this was an idea come up. And you know, if you look at
this coming up from globalist policies and we see it acting
all the way down into local authorities around the world,
including the funding, includingthe fear, including creating
enemies for people other than ourselves or maybe in addition
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to you are worse than ourselves.So I just wanted to give an
example of how this actually plays out on a local level.
So Brian, I don't know or Ben, Idon't know if you have anything
to add to that. Well Diane, I'll come straight
back in and say thank you for that report.
It is really encouraging that weare now starting to see at least
at sort of councillor level, local council level, people are
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challenging this nonsense. And by the young man who was
speaking in that video clip, thereframing is incredibly powerful
because I'm sure he believed in the nonsense that he was
spouting to the camera just then.
But it's absolutely great to know that people are challenging
this and that even within Reform, we are now starting to
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see that there is a focus on thepolicies and not just accepting
the hit that those policies makeon our daily life.
So I hope that amongst other smaller parties that Reform
councillors are really going to be staying on target this one
Now, as we always do, we want tosay a huge thank you to our
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audience for the support that you give us.
If you donate to the UK column or you're paid up member of UK
column, you are the people that keep us going and we could not
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So thank you very much to everybody who's out there, not
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although in some countries it's a very small number of people
viewing, we are astonished at the number of countries that UK
column actually reaches in orderto get out some very different
news from the nonsense espoused by the BBC.
In the coming days and weeks, we'll talk more about the people
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everybody who's actually making that financial contribution
because we wouldn't be here without you.
Now, Diane, one of the things that we've been trying to do
over recent months at least, is to encourage people to view UK
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column written material. And I believe you've got a
couple of articles here which are going to be up, sorry, which
are up on the website at the moment.
I don't know whether you'd like to just make a quick comment.
I'd be happy to Ryan as the Commission to get into for
written content this was. I would like to say first that
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Vanessa B Lee is, as I mentioneda couple of weeks ago now doing
a weekly blog related to Syria issues.
Last week's was called a terrorist suicide bombing in a
Damascus church triggers A widerpurge of Syrian minorities.
Apologies for the picture there of David Lammy and Jelani
shaking hands, but Vanessa and Idecided it was necessary to get
across how terrible this all is.Another article that we
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published last week was was called the Virus Prices
Playbook, which is by Sarah Newlin.
What she did here was she compared the foot and mouth
disease outbreak from around 25 years ago to the so called
COVID, so called pandemic and there's some very interesting
parallels between the two situations.
Sarah Newlin also published the most recent front page story and
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the new issue of the Light Paper, so take a look at that as
well. That's some great work.
OK, excellent. And the interview going out
tomorrow at 1:00 is Doctor Judith Brown.
I think that one's yours as well, Diane, is that?
Correct. Yes, it is.
So it is correct yeah, we we entered Brown a couple of years
ago I'm UK Colin, but this is a new interview talking about some
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recent work that she's done. I have called this interview
Fact Checking the Fact Sensors because I think especially after
you watch our discussion, you'llsee exactly why the fact
checkers are actually censoring the actual facts.
So please tune in for that tomorrow at 1:00 PM.
Yeah, brilliant. And tonight we've got germ
warfare and that will be lessonsfrom the COVID and AIDS scam.
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So that should be very interesting.
And with guest Ken McCarthy, watch out for that one.
And of course, a big update to say October the 18th, we've got
our UK card on location in in York.
We will be announcing those tickets.
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We're keeping you at tent tenterhooks at the moment.
But essentially this is going tobe a fantastic event and it's in
a fantastic location. So stay posted with that and
we'll give you more details in due course.
Now we also give a reminder for the Sunday the 20th of July,
regional sovereignty versus devolution.
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Absolutely on the button with what Ben Rubin's been talking
about in today's news. And that's a meet up in the
Field of Dreams Exeter EX40 9JL.Bring your own lunch, a mug and
a folding chair it says, and that's from 9:30 to 4:30.
We've also got the theft for truth and Freedom Festival.
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That's eight this eight, sorry, this Friday, 18th through to
Saturday, the 19th of the Angel in in Larling NR162 Qu and
Diane, I believe you will be at that one.
We will do more on that in extraUK column extra.
And lastly, we've got here the Freedom Music Festival, 22nd of
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the 21st of 25th of August this year.
And of course, that's Bank Holiday weekend.
UK column team will be attending.
Now where does that take us? I think, Ben, that brings you
back in with us. And the subject is that Eve
English devolution. Not quite what it seems.
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I'll suggest. Is anything ever quite what it
seems, Brian? Yes, the English Devolution and
Community Empowerment Bill came out last week.
I was talking about Lawfare earlier.
And actually this sort of constant onslaught of
legislation, bills, acts, running to quite literally
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thousands of pages per week is, is the kind of sharp end of
that. Essentially, it's designed to
overwhelm us. It makes it almost impossible to
keep up with what the government's trying to do.
This is one of the things that landed last week.
So this is the English Devolution Community Empowerment
Bill. It's not been enacted yet, but
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it is on its way to becoming law.
And this sits in a long process of evolution that nobody asked
for. We actually voted against it,
but they decided to go ahead with it anyway.
And this latest iteration comes from Deputy Prime Minister
Angela Rayner, who I like to call affectionately Big Ange.
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She took to LBC to talk about the bill.
Try and sell it to us, saying Labour was elected to deliver
change and our English Devolution Community Empowerment
Bill will do just that, change, transformation of the country,
she continues. That means handing power back to
where it belongs, to local leaders with skin in the game,
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so they can make decisions on what really matters to their
communities. Skin in the game, it's one of
those words terms that's been heavily focus grouped.
All of the politicians are usingit.
I actually think it's, it's probably quite misleading.
Skin in the game normally means that you've got some money or a
proper interest in something andI don't think that any of these
leaders do to be honest with you.
They're just, they're on a grift.
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She then continues to say we will drive the biggest transfer
of power out of Whitehall to ourregions in a generation and make
evolution the default setting. And again, this is this is where
I think things start to get really misleading.
We've talked about this a lot. This idea that we're going to
drive transfer of power out of Whitehorn in into the regions is
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very, very misleading. Essentially what's happening is
that the regions are becoming departments of Whitehall, right?
And actually the best evidence to support that came just under
a week of the Starmer was voted into Downing St on July the 4th
last year when you had all of the metro mayors go up for their
big meet and greet on the 9th ofJuly, I believe it was.
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So about five days after the general election, they were some
of the first people invited intoDowning St to talk about the
implementation of this new system of governance rights, but
nothing about the evolution of power.
Angela Rayner continues to say that we'll give local people a
new community right to buy to save much love, community assets
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like pubs and shops, and to havea bigger say in shaping their
local area through effective neighbourhood governance.
This right to buy thing is really important.
This is a shift towards a communitarian system, right?
That's absolutely what this is. Pubs should not be bought owned
by the community, they're owned by a landlord, right?
Shops should not be owned by thecommunity, they should be owned
by people who use them as shops.That's what they're for.
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All of this ignores is the fact that our economic system has
been destroyed over the past 50 years by the people who are
actually behind this policy agenda.
Ultimately, shops should be usedas shops.
Pubs should be used as shops, aspubs even.
We shouldn't be changing the fundamental structure of the
system in order to align it withthis new new communitarian
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vision that no one actually really understands, Right.
Let let, let's be completely honest about this.
I'm sure sources there that thisis all about effective
neighbourhood governance. And so again, this is about
control at a neighbourhood level.
And she then goes on finally in this article to say we should
provide a link to she's going tohave a look at it.
She says we'll get local leadersworking together over larger
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areas to drive through big pro growth projects like integrated
transport networks and housing by creating new strategic
authorities, which actually runscompletely counter to what she's
just said. She's saying she's going to
devolve power down to local leaders, but then we're going to
get those local leaders to collaborate with each other over
larger areas to drive through big pro growth projects, which
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are these huge, huge investmentsin infrastructure and
transformation of energy systems, transportation,
housing, you name it, and that'sall going to be driven through
these strategic authorities. These are the new entities that
are being brought in. As ever, I like to read between
the lines a little bit on this stuff, particularly in the
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context of the war that we're currently being subjected to.
Authority is the power to enforce laws, exact obedience,
command, determine, or judge in a manner that is essential to
the effective conduct of war. That's the way that I'm reading
that. I don't think that it's a it is
a good thing for anyone other than the people who are pushing
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forward this agenda. What are the strategic
authorities all about? Well, they list out in the bill
a bunch of areas of competence. These are the things that the
these authorities are going to have to be able to, to, to
operate within. And, and as I said, this is a
huge scope here. Transport and local
infrastructure, skills and employment, housing and
strategic planning, economic development, regeneration,
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environment, climate change. Obviously we've got to get that
in there. Health and well being, public
service reform and public safety, right?
This is an absolutely huge scopefor these new strategic
authorities covering basically every single part of our society
across the piece. That final point about public
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safety that rang some alarm bells.
I always think about this quote from Albert Camus.
The welfare of the people has always been the alibi of
tyrants. I think that's absolutely the
case here. So what else is in the bill?
I'd say I normally suggest people to go and read these
things. It's 330 pages long.
It's incredibly technical and deeply, deeply boring, a lot of
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it. So maybe you don't want to.
But just to summarise a few things that I picked out, right,
that really jumped out at me. The first one is that these new
strategic authorities are able to create what they call
subordinate legislation, which is to say they're able to create
their own laws. They also talk a lot about how
commissioners are appointed, notelected.
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So elected mayors are able to appoint up to seven people to
support them in delivery of their duties, right?
So the idea that this is wholly democratic, I think is, is, is
very misleading. They talk, again, as I've
mentioned, a huge amount about collaboration with other
authorities. This is crucial, right?
So they're saying that this is devolved, but then actually
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these mayors are going to collaborate with each other and
they dedicate 10 entire pages ofthis bill to describing the
exact process that the strategicauthorities are going to have to
go through in order to ask each other for support on issues in
mind bending bureaucratic detail.
And essentially this is a matrix, this is a mesh network
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that's going to be used to knit together the country ever more
tightly to this centralised power structure.
Obviously, as you'd expect, there's a quite a pointed
reference to the imposition of levies.
So the idea that lower levels ofthe system are going to be
tapped up to provide funding forthe higher levels of the system.
And then crucially, there's a, a, a, a very detailed section
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about how they can go about borrowing money.
Yeah. And this is crucial because all
of this new infrastructure is going to be paid for by debt
based lending from private investors.
And actually this has got a lot less to do with Big Ange and the
Labour government delivering forthe country and a lot more to do
with delivering the bottom line of people like Larry Fink, who
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we know Big and Angela Rayner, Deputy Prime Minister, is a big
fan of. Ben, thank you very much for
that excellent summary. Was it my imagination or was
there actually touching of skin in that last photograph?
I think maybe we should just popit back on screen.
I think the fingers are definitely touching there.
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So obviously there's a good relationship and no doubt the
money streams will come online in due course.
I'd like to say to the audience that the summary that Ben has
given there, interpreting what these people are doing and, and
he's given it in very simple terms is very powerful.
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Because if our audience echoes back to the system itself that
we can see exactly what they're doing and we know what they're
doing as opposed to what they say they're doing, this has
quite an effect on them. So for all the people that say
yes, what can we do? I think we can look you in the
eye and say, take some of the material from today's news and
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post it far and wide on all of the social media platforms of
the government and its agencies that are bringing in this
deceptive new devolution strategy.
Because once they know they can be seen, it has a, a deeply
profound effect on them. Perhaps we'll discuss that a bit
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more. Also in extra Diane, let's bring
you back and you're looking at the at what's going on really
with our ability to read books, to get hold of books and what's
happening around the the libraries.
But of course, libraries very often very important for young
children. Doing a series of talks around
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the country related to what's been happening in libraries.
And first of all, I would like to thank Cabin Algebra for
hosting the talk that I did lastweek in Edinburgh.
It was a really well attended event, a great Andy.
It's lots of engaging conversation and thanks in
particular, of course to the chair of Common Knowledge,
Edinburgh, Professor Richard Enos, who for hosting me and
letting me have a place to sleepin his house for the night.
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The title of my talk was They'reBurning Books Again, Stop the
destruction of our Libraries. And I was looking at in
particular hypocrisy that I havereally been thinking about very
deeply recently. If we can put this photo on the
screen, please, of me at the top.
This was a photo that one of theother committee members took of
me. And if you can't see the screen,
it was me talking about a picture book that is available
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in children's library collections around the country.
The book is called And this is just one many examples in My
Daddy's Belly, the story of a transgender dad giving birth.
The author is Logan Brown. The official summary says that
inspired by the author's real family, this heartwarming story
about two dads eagerly awaiting the birth of their first child
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follows the excitement and joy of welcoming a new baby into a
loving family. The person giving birth just
happens to be one of the dads. Interesting.
So last week Brian, if you remember, I covered what was
happening in Kent Council libraries regarding children's
access to agent appropriate books.
And just as a review of what I covered, here's the video I
showed last week from CouncillorPaul Webb and Kent.
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Good evening everybody. Paul Webb here, your Reform UK
cabinet member for Communities and Regulatory Services at Kent
County Council. I was recently contacted by a
concerned. Member of the.
Public who found trans ideological material and books
in the children's section of oneof our libraries.
I've looked into this and this was the case.
I've today issued instruction for them all to be removed from
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the children's section of any ofour libraries.
They do not belong in the children's section of our
libraries. Our children do not need to be
told they were born in the wrongbodies.
So from today, this will stop. Thank you very much.
So that's just a reminder of what he did.
There was a bit of controversy around that.
But anyway, we can talk about that more in extra if we need to
talk about it some more. But I want to update some things
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that have happened in the past week in response to what
happened. My former professional body, the
Chartered Institute of Library and Information Professionals,
or Scillip, responded to this with a press release saying,
quote, libraries are trusted forproviding facts and freedom,
which, you know, in my case, I did not experience either one by
the time I was pushed out of theorganisation.
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But here's a quote from the CEO of Scillip.
He said the idea of politicians policing or banning books is
profoundly troubling. It evokes images of
authoritarian regimes, not a modern democratic and diverse
society like UK. So as a result of this reporting
that I did last weekend, I'm notworking with some people locally
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here in the Northeast. I had a call with Darren Grimes,
counsellor Darren Grimes in County Durham, who I mentioned
earlier in the news. We had a really good call.
He wants to look at what these books are that are located in
children's departments and to make a list of the books that
are that are available in the children's departments of Durham
County Council libraries. So just as one example that I
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found in the quick search, whichI'm just starting to do this
work, here's one book that is located in the children's
section called She's My Dad, a story for children who have a
transgender parent or relative. This is an illustrated picture
book that tells the story of Mimi MINI and her dad Haley.
Her dad Haley, a transgender woman, as many explains to her
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cousin why misgendering is damaging and emphasises the need
to treat trans people with respect.
This title is for children aged and up, three years old, who
have a family member who is. So that's just one example.
This is located in the Durham Clayport Library, which is in
the city centre of Durham. So what we see here with this
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dichotomy and this hypocrisy that I've been talking about
recently is, as I've mentioned before previously in UK column,
the decolonization of library collections and universities.
And in my opinion, anyone old enough to be at university
should have the right to read whatever they want, but what
they're doing with the older generations of young people, So
the people in universities are removing things from library
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collections or changing them. And so here's an example here
from a university in England here, I believe this is the
University of East Anglia talking about decolonizing the
library from the perspective of their students.
Hi, I'm Virgilo pronouns he him,and I'm here with Ebony she her
and Molly she her. We're going to chat to you about
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decolonizing the library. We really wanted to get involved
with this initiative because we wanted to.
See change in who is. Represented in library texts,
the knowledge from authors of colour is invaluable.
If you head to the new online subject guide for
decolonisation, you can request more texts from a variety of
different backgrounds. This push, coming from students
especially, will make such a difference to the library's
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resources. Go to the website below to get
started. So the website that they're
referring to was for people to indicate which books needed to
be changed one way or the other and within the university
library, And this can be seen inuniversity libraries all around
the country, Brian, that they have this agenda going on.
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So what we're seeing on the one hand is destroying children's
innocence by putting pornographyin front of them, and on the
other hand, on the university level where everything should be
able to be explored, removing things that people should be
exposed to, including the history of Britain and the
amazing cultural history that this country has.
Just dangerous times, but to fight it, we've got to
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understand what's actually happening.
So Diane, thank you very much for taking the lid off what you
are seeing occur around the libraries and small children.
Now we're going to end on the subject of an LGBT article that
appeared in the Telegraph. It's, it's about a pretty
serious subject of a man, Stephen Ireland, who ended up in
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prison as a result of abusing a young child.
This was the Telegraph's headline.
If the council had listened to me, this paedophile would have
been stopped. And it goes on to say in 2021,
reports of a Surrey Pride founder's abuse of power were
ignored. Four years on, he's been gaoled
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for a string of sexual offences.Now there's all sorts of things
in this report. I've I haven't got much time
during the news, but I will go into it more with UK column
extra. But let's just have a look at
the key facts. Now part of the sons report with
a different set of pictures about this man is that the four
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week trial followed an extensiveinvestigation by Surrey Polices
Complex Abuse Unit. And if we have look at a bit of
the report on that, it says Ireland enticed a boy to his
flat, gave him the key code and then the boy, tired and hungry
was given a quote bong to smoke,which was later found found to
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be laced with methamphetamine. Pornography was played on a
laptop and then he was raped by Ireland and the assault filmed
for the sadistic enjoyment of their cohorts.
It says that Ireland and his friend Sutton were both arrested
on June the 11th, 2024 for distribution and possession of
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indecent images of children and on August the 14th charges were
authorised for 44 offences, later increased to 45.
Now there was a bit more. It went on to say he was also
convicted of three counts of causing a child under 13 to
engage in sexual activity, sexual assault, a conspiracy to
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engage in sexual activity with achild, facilitating a child's
sexual offence, 6 counts of making child abuse imagery,
distributing pornographic imagesof children and possession of
one of the most serious child abuse images involving a
toddler. Sutton, who was a sorry Pride
volunteer, was sentenced for offences including voyeurism and
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possession and distribution of prohibited images of children.
Now the starting headline here now becomes very important
because somebody was trying to say that if the council had
reacted to their warnings, theseabuses may have been stopped, at
least stopped much earlier, so that less youngsters were
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damaged. And if we get into the report
and what is interesting is that members of the LGBT community
themselves were trying to warn what was going on.
One of the people commenting here said that they'd seen
images of people in leather pop play fetish gear such as masks
and dog collars, and this had worried them as children as
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young as two or three were beingencouraged to pet the people
wearing this gear. This is during St parades and
the person said I asked if this kind of fetish was going to be
allowed at Woking Pride. The woman at Woking Borough
Council sent a reply reassuring me that Pride in Surrey have
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been working closely with, quote, Surrey Police and youth
organisations to make the first bride in Surrey a truly
inclusive event that it is with UK law.
So concerns were fobbed off. But if we go into more, if we go
into a bit more detail here, other members of the public had
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already picked up that this man was getting very close to young
children. Well a youngster at least.
So this is a young person celebrating their 18th birthday.
But you can see dressed up in this sort of fetish gear and
this was put out on Stephen Ireland's ex channel celebrating
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at Pop Astro 18th birthday radiowoken.
So if we delve in a little bit more in the text, there is
another quote here that somebodywas making a formal safeguarding
complaint to Surrey County Council and it was then
suggested that the the individual and lady should
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contact Surrey Police. But she said she was reluctant
to do that because it was well known how close Surrey Police
were to pride in Surrey. And this is really the key part
of this story, that what we're actually seeing here is that the
police are no longer separate. They're in partnership with
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organisations to such an extent that they don't want to
investigate them. This could be embarrassing for
the police. And so somebody in the public
who was deeply concerned doesn'tget the police to react because
they said to themselves, if I contact the police, nothing is
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going to happen. Now if we just delve in a little
bit more to Surrey Police, the one of the previous long
standing chief constables has gone on to head the police chief
constables organisation. He's become chair of that.
There is a new Chief Constable, Tim De Meyer in power.
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He's been in for I think it's three years.
So what was Surrey Police doing?Well, you've only got to look at
their website to see that they're prepared to corrupt
their own police badge with the LGBT logo in order to show their
support for the LGBT agenda. And if we come in a slightly
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different from a slightly different angle and we're going
back to 2010, it was actually the UK column that revealed that
the then. Chief Constable from Surrey
Police Mark Rowley was part of the organisation Common Purpose.
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He was part of the Common Purpose organisation to select
candidates. Now when they were challenged on
what was going on here, they said that Surrey status is one
of the safest counties in the country and it's largely due to
the commitment of Surrey Police in bringing out the best of our
staff in developing, quote, top quality leaders.
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They added to that that Surrey Police in the past has sent
senior managers on training courses outside the police
environment to broaden their skills to work more effectively
with partners. So I'm suggesting to the
audience that perhaps Surrey Police have got a track record
not of being the best, but of actually doing their things
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outside their proper powers and duties, which has actually put
the public at rest. Now that particular gentleman
went on to become commissioner of the Met Police, and let's
hear what he had to say in a recent interview.
This is still a problem. For the Met, isn't it relations?
With minority communities, this is so difficult for us.
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We can't pretend otherwise. Then we've got a history between
policing and black communities where policing has got a lot
wrong. We get a lot more right today,
but we do. Still make mistakes, that's not.
That's not in doubt. I'm being as relentless about
standards as we can be, and the vast majority of our people are
good people. But that that legacy combined
with. The tragedy.
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That some of this crime falls most heavily in black
communities. That creates a real problem
because the legacy creates concern.
Meanwhile, policing, we want to reach into the.
Communities. We have suffering most crime and
make the biggest difference because everyone deserves equal
chance to thrive in London. It's not right that black boys
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growing up in London are more likely to be dead by the.
Time they're 18 far more likely than than white boys.
That's, I think that's shameful for the city.
So here's the boss of the Met admitting that he.
Can't do his job. And yet diversity training was
rampant through the police back in that era of around 2010 to
2015. And the other thing I'd like to
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point out with you out to our audience is that essentially
within the Common Purpose network was a gentleman called
Rennie who was eventually put into prison for horrific abuse
of children, including children at the age of three months.
The Sky News report at the time didn't reveal that Rennie was a
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Common Purpose graduate, but at the time that UK column was
reporting on Common Purpose, we'd pointed out that Common
Purpose trainers were going intoschools with no background
cheques at all. So a complete mess within the
police, which is created by the police adhering to outside
training by essentially we wouldsay unqualified organisations,
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but also no separation of powersduring these partnerships.
Now I know we're overrunning slightly for time here, but I
think this is really important subject.
And Ben, I'm just going to say to you that this is really one
of the things that you've been warning about with your public
private partnerships where we'regetting a mix between outside
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bodies and formal constitutionalstructures like the police.
And you are seeing that the PPP side of the devolution agenda is
on the increase. I don't know whether you'd like
to just comment on that briefly.Yes, I mean every.
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Area of society is riddled with these networks.
Common purpose is one that we'vespoken about a lot, but there
are many, many, many examples. Some of them linked into common
purpose, some of them independent from it, all of them
driving in the same direction ultimately.
And they have created a marketplace out of this.
So they're getting paid a lot ofmoney to deliver this training
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and to to transform society. And this is the the, the, the
agenda, the the change maker agenda that is enabling the
transformation of the system. And essentially it's, it's
infected it at every level. Yeah, Ben, thank you very much
for that. Now, Diane, just bring you in to
close because we decided after apretty heavy news from the
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column today, our viewers and listeners might need a little
bit of a lift up. What have you got?
Yeah, thanks, Brian. I just.
Wanted to maybe reflect a littlebit on the actual summer weather
that we had over the weekend here in this country.
Unfortunately, mainstream media tried to fill us with fear about
the fact that we were having summer.
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This is from the Mirror posted on Friday on Facebook saying
Brits were warned not to consumefizzy drinks this weekend as
temperatures to hit 33°C. Now, I don't know if carbonation
means that it heats us up, but anyway, I looked at the actual
article and it basically was a warning from the UK Health
Security Agency to issue heat health alerts across the nation.
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And it said that basically, while water and diluted squash
are top picks for hydration, fruit juice and sugary dizzy
drinks lead to further dehydration due to the high
sugar levels as stated in the official heat wave guidance.
So this comes from UKHSA as wellas gov.uk Sugar.
It's not the carbonation. So it's interesting how they
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like to mislead the headlines for to make people click on
them. This was just another meme that
I saw over the weekend. This is the climate propaganda
colouring book. And so as you know, we've seen
all of these red colours. So now we have crayons and that
the crayons that it comes with are sort of a bright orangey
red, a regular orange, a dark purple and one is either a black
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or a brown. So that must be for the really,
really hot burning up areas of the country.
You can colour those in. And you know, but I have to say
I personally enjoyed the heat over the weekend, although it
was a bit uncomfortable, but I loved it mostly.
I was in Durham on Saturday and I took this picture Saturday
morning in Wharton Park, which is right in the city centre of
Durham. And I just thought, you know, we
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need to find, find a bit of peace in nature anywhere we can
find it right here in the middleof Durham where I took this
picture. The sunshine, the green leaves,
some good energy and some peace that we can find anywhere we
look. So I think despite all the
brine, we have to make an effortto find something that does make
us feel good in these in these difficult times.
And then we're better equipped to face them once we come out of
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our walk. Absolutely true Diane and thank
you very much for that lovely bit of scenery.
And the last boost will give ouraudience for we end today's news
that if you were eagle eyed, youmight have seen on the Telegraph
front page that even Ofcom has now had to admit that the
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British public do not trust the BBC.
So there we are, one of the BB CS buddies.
Ofcom is now turning on them andsaying no, people don't trust
you. What better news could we have?
We'll end there. Diane, Ben, thank you very much
for joining me and a huge thank you to everybody watches.
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