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October 30, 2023 72 mins

Friend of the pod Batya Ungar-Sargon, deputy opinion editor for Newsweek and author of Bad News, returns for a deep, contentious conversation about the responsibility of journalists covering the Israel-Hamas war, the people worth expending energy on (versus relegating as enemies), and the uncomfortable embrace of moral certainty. 

While much vitriol is expended on the “journalists” bringing shame to the (let’s face it, already pretty scumbag) profession, we also shout out the reporters doing good, honest analysis, even if we don’t always agree with their positions: Zaid Jelani, Lee Fang, and Arash Azizi

On the agenda:

-The Moral Imperative of Remembering [1:55-9:11]

-On Emotions and Moral Certainty [9:12-16:54]

-Disgusting "Journalists" [16:55-20:39]

-On Journalistic Responsibility / Objectivity [20:40-26:36]

-Debating How - and Who - to Trust [26:37-38:39]

-Liberal vs. Jewish Values [38:40-52:14]

-On Moral Equivalence and Retaliation [52:15-58:24]

-Who is reachable? [58:25-1:07:22]

-The battle continues [1:07:23-1:12:40]

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