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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Last week on
Unglossy.
Podcasts are starting to matter.
Like people are payingattention, right?
This is a new form.
It's not a new form.
It's an old form ofentertainment, but it's one that
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SPEAKER_03 (00:13):
We're the new cable.
We're the new cable.
You know what I'm saying?
I would say this show isprobably maybe TBS.
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I'll take that.
Yeah.
I'll take TBS.
I'll take TBS.
You know what I'm saying?
We got a lot of, we got a lot ofpeople.
SPEAKER_03 (00:32):
From the top.
SPEAKER_00 (00:33):
I'm Tom Frank.
SPEAKER_03 (00:34):
I'm Jeffrey Slicks.
And I'm Bud V.
Welcome to Unglossy.
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So buckle up,
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SPEAKER_00 (00:48):
We got a big show
today, Unglossy Fans.
The kind of episode that shouldprobably come with a seatbelt
and a liability waiver.
It's so big we couldn't evenpretend to start with a normal
intro.
Nope.
We're diving straight intochaos.
Courtesy of one man, JeffreySledge.
Buckle up, grab your popcorn,and maybe text your therapist.
This one starts wild and neverreally calms down.
SPEAKER_02 (01:09):
So a few months
later, Will Smith.
He's like, I want to work withPete Rock.
I call PL say Pete.
Please.
Please be home, bro.
I was home for well.
I was home.
So we set it up, we come up, weget to Peace Block.
(01:29):
In a big back then it waslimousines.
You know, this big stretchlimousine comes up.
And we get out the car, andhe's, I'm not still not forget,
it was these three kids fromPete's Block.
They're on their bike.
So it was summertime, theschool's out.
And they get out and they seethe fresh prince.
And you know, the eyes getbigger saucers, and they like,
oh my God.
You know, Will's job, you alwaysjoin you.
He's like, hey, how y'all doing?
(01:50):
And so we go into Pete's house.
Pete, you're not home.
But your family, your wholefamily was there.
SPEAKER_03 (01:58):
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (01:59):
Your mom, your aunt,
people from the neighborhood,
they were all in the house.
It's like, oh, we were justcooking the food.
Oh, hey, we didn't know in, youknow, and he's jovial and stuff,
and we're talking, andeverybody's known.
Happy to see Will and they, youknow, asking for autographs and
his kids.
It was a good time, it was agreat time.
And Pete comes like maybe 10minutes later, and he kind of
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like does this junk.
He's like, I'm home.
I was just getting a fewcookies.
He's at the barber shop, he's upthe hill.
And then by the time we came outthe house, from those three
little kids telling people inthe neighborhood that they just
saw Will Smith, I it had to be,I don't know what Pete, four or
five hundred.
It was so half of a burning.
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A lot of kids.
A lot of people was goingthrough the block.
Like that's a good thing.
Heavy D pulled up, God blesshim.
And he had a motorcycle, hepulled up.
Yeah, yeah.
And so the cops actually had tokind of escort us two doors down
to Pete's Aunt's house becausethat's what that's where the
basement was.
SPEAKER_03 (02:58):
That's where the
basement was at, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (03:00):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (03:00):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (03:02):
We had a good time.
That was a good time.
Yeah, man, that was fun.
That was good.
That was a good time.
SPEAKER_03 (03:06):
Yeah, that was a
good time.
I totally missed Shaq.
I was so pissed off about that.
I was stuck in traffic, and Iwas trying to tell him, like,
yo, my dude, I was stuck.
He was on my way.
Yeah.
Mom's, he he came in my mother'shouse.
He couldn't even stand up in theliving room, I heard.
SPEAKER_02 (03:22):
I was never forget.
God bless him and rest in peace,and God bless him.
Your apostles was a beautifulman.
I never forget um your father'sface when he saw Shaq standing
behind.
He's a giant.
He's like, what the fuck?
Why is this giant?
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (03:40):
It was crazy, man.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, back in.
SPEAKER_02 (03:42):
Jeff Flesh, what's
up, man?
Damn, man.
Damn.
Yeah, I know, man.
We got years to catch up on,man.
Love you, man.
SPEAKER_03 (03:51):
Youngin', bro.
You was with me since uhyoungin', man.
I was trying my hardest, bro.
I was trying.
SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
I knew it, though.
I knew you had you had yourtalent, man.
You was really bombed.
SPEAKER_03 (04:01):
I was excited.
I was like, ah, let me get ahaircut.
Let me look good.
Let me do this.
Let me do that.
So everybody's got to be able todo that.
SPEAKER_02 (04:08):
It was Marlin on the
radio.
Yep, with Marlin.
SPEAKER_03 (04:12):
Your brothers, Graf,
and Graf and Ruddy.
I'm gonna start a podcast inPete Jeff.
SPEAKER_02 (04:18):
Ruddy was managing
Pete.
Yes, sir.
At that time.
SPEAKER_03 (04:24):
I'm gonna start a
podcast called Jeff Raised Us.
I'm down.
I'm down.
We got history, man.
But yeah, I'm gonna be able todo that.
Jeff, you are now officiallyeverybody big homie.
Yeah, I know.
Crazy.
I get the unc shit all the timenow.
SPEAKER_05 (04:43):
You're unclear Jeff
right there, man.
My first industry dinner waswith Jeffrey Sledge.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:51):
All right, we gotta
hold on some of these stories
because we haven't even startedthe podcast yet.
SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
All right, all
right, all right, all right.
Tom, get this in order, please.
Get this in order.
SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
I'm gonna get you in
order.
All right.
SPEAKER_03 (04:59):
All right.
SPEAKER_00 (05:00):
Hey, we got a
jam-packed show today.
We got not one, not two, butthree amazing guests.
Some may call this trio theGuardians of the Galaxy, maybe
the Justice League, maybeSHIELD, maybe the Avengers,
maybe the League ofExtraordinary Gentlemen.
Wow.
I call them Tat Wizard, MickeyFacts, Pete Rock.
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Collectively, collectively,they're the hosts of our
love-hate relationship withcomic culture.
How are we doing, fellas?
SPEAKER_03 (05:28):
We're good.
It's Friday.
You know, it's time to boogie ondown.
We're good.
We're good.
Everybody good?
Great.
I'm great about that.
Big bro Jeff, what up?
What up, Pete?
Chilling, chilling.
Chilling, chilling.
SPEAKER_00 (05:46):
All right, I'm gonna
set the framework here real
quickly.
unknown (05:48):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (05:49):
We have the pleasure
having these guys on Unglossy
today, but the conversationisn't gonna stop when the
curtains go down here.
We're gonna finish this one overat the Comic Culture.
So, listeners, get ready for thefirst ever unglossy to our
love-hate relationship withcomic culture, the first ever
crossover episode.
SPEAKER_03 (06:07):
Let's go, baby.
SPEAKER_00 (06:08):
So let me do some
proper introductions.
Let me do some properintroductions of our guests.
Okay.
We got Tat Wiza on.
He is a veteran, radio producerat Hot 97.
He's a digital director of litdigital DJs and pop culture
commentator.
Tat came up through New YorkRadio in the mixed tape era,
blending hip-hop culture,comics, and street culture long
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before it was cool.
He's the connective tissuebetween music, fandom, and the
art of conversation.
I like this connection.
Yes.
I put that in there for you.
Don't fire, don't fly.
He's a Bronx-born lyricist andthe founder of Pendulum Inc.,
the first and only school ofhip-hop dedicated to teaching
the art and business oflyricism.
Mickey built his rep as one ofrap's smartest technicians, and
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it's proof that high intellectand hip-hop swagger can coexist
beautifully.
That's why he's my man.
And then we got Pete Rock.
I've always wanted to say this,Pete Rock, the soul brother
number one.
Yeah.
And living legend, whosefingerprints are on the DNA of
hip hop itself.
From shaping the golden erasound to mentoring new
generations.
Pete Bridges, classic artistrywith fans' genuine love for
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storytelling.
We got the whole cast here.
We're all assembled.
All the heroes are here.
So we got to start here.
I think we all kind of likecomics and comic movies.
Yes.
Where did you guys fall in lovefirst with this comic culture?
Because this is this is kind ofan interesting relationship that
you guys all have on thispodcast.
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Where did it start?
Who wants to go first?
SPEAKER_03 (07:41):
Bun B, go off.
No, okay, all right, go ahead.
SPEAKER_05 (07:46):
I'll start it off.
My father was a really, reallygood comic book artist.
And apparently in the 70s, youknow, rest in peace to my
grandmother and grandfather, youknow, they would, you know, they
like to to um they like to drinkand they like to gamble.
So sometimes they would drinkand gamble away the rent money.
(08:06):
So my father would redraw comicbooks and sell them.
Wow.
To pay to help pay the rent.
He didn't even know that.
That's right.
And he had, and he has themstill, color comic books that he
had, and I would take thesecomic books and bring them to
school and act as if I drewthem.
And I would read them and I lovethem, and I fell in love with
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them from that.
So I fell in love with comicbooks from that space right
there.
SPEAKER_03 (08:34):
Wow.
That's dope.
Everybody as hell.
That's dope.
That's dope.
Uh I mean, okay.
Me, um I it just started from meto seeing the colorful, colorful
books that with these theseinteresting people on the cover,
and it that I opened it and itand then never closed it.
(08:54):
You understand what I'm saying?
So I just kept buying comicbooks from there and
interesting, and I beg my momsand sisters to take me to the
store to to buy comic books, andand it just never dwindled away,
man.
The love I had for it.
And then, you know, friends inthe neighborhood who had way
more comic books than me, Iwould just go over there and be
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in awe looking at theircollection and going through,
you know, his and seeingdifferent type of books, and I'm
like, damn.
You know, so that right therejust it just dove me right into
that world.
And then I just never kind of Ijust kind of stayed in it.
Even right now, I still gotbooks like right over here.
SPEAKER_01 (09:34):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (09:35):
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (09:37):
I mean mine is more
just my mom's got me.
I'm a I'm I'm a mixed, you know,I grew up in the hood my whole
life, but with my white mother.
So there was turbulent timeshere and there.
And my mom's got me uh Power Manand Iron Fist, and for some
reason I just super connected tothat and like like drew me in,
(09:58):
kind of giving me confidence,you know what I'm saying, as a
whole in life and at the time.
And and then from there, justkind of like on my radar at all
times.
Even when, you know, when I wasyounger and I was maybe a
knucklehead from time to time,um, doing things that I
shouldn't have been doing, stilllike sneaking off, going to read
the comics at the at the shop,you know, taking time, being
(10:20):
there, whatever, going homelate, you know what I'm saying,
making sure I was getting in theinformation I need to get in.
So, you know, just and then fromthere, you know, staying in the
culture, no matter what I wasdoing in life, like in the 90s,
watching X-Men and all of thecartoons that would come on as I
grew up into an adult, alwayskeeping that in my uh, I guess
(10:42):
in my lexicon or whatever,right?
So it's like it's just all thatinformation is just like always
right there for me.
And I I just love it.
SPEAKER_02 (10:51):
Same.
SPEAKER_01 (10:53):
This is crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (10:54):
It's already a very
unique perspective.
Huh?
SPEAKER_00 (10:56):
How about you?
You're you're kind of in thecomics too, right?
A little bit?
SPEAKER_03 (11:00):
Yeah, so I mean, I'm
not nowhere near a collector or
anything like these guys, but Iused to have a friend down the
street.
I didn't have a comic bookcollection.
I didn't have a lot of thingsbecause we just didn't have the
bread for like extra shit.
I'm a big boy.
If I had money for extra shit, Iwanted food.
Right, right.
But like the only reading I had,my dad bought like, you know,
(11:22):
guys go door to door sellingencyclopedias and dictionary.
My old man actually bought one.
Oh and was like, you're gonnaread this all the way through.
But I had a homie down thestreet who used to have comic
books.
So I would go to his house.
He had everything.
So I had three brothers, youknow, my parents that make a lot
of money.
He was the only child, and hisown man had bread.
(11:42):
So he had everything.
So he was kind of one of thosekids.
I was like, yo, you stillreading this?
No, I don't care about that.
And like I said, I was a littlefat dude or whatever.
So I identified with the thing.
Like to me, I identified withthe thing.
So so I wanted to read all theFantastic Four, but this is like
(12:02):
82 or 83, so I'm trying to getto know about the Fantastic
Four, and then here comes Doom.
Like 83 was a Doom year.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So I'm like, well, who is thisdude?
You know what I'm saying?
And I just, and then he stoppedcollecting.
So I stopped reading.
I and I stopped having access.
I'm in the hood in Houston.
There's no shops in the area forme to go to and and read or
(12:26):
anything.
So my my I just kind of separatefrom it.
And then '83, you know, the TVshow comes on and we start
seeing representation and moviesand all of that stuff.
So I still get a connection tothe superhero world and the
base, but I don't have thatconnection through the comic
books.
But I've been able to take,like, my nieces and I, our
(12:48):
relationship is built aroundMarvel.
Like, I've been taking themsince Iron Man.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's just a part of ourlife now.
But and they're like, should webe reading comic books for this
stuff?
Like, should if we read comicbooks, we would know.
I say you'd know more about thecharacters.
I don't know if you'd know moreabout what's coming.
(13:08):
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because there's so manydifferent storylines.
You know what I'm saying?
And they kind of pick bits.
I've noticed that people saythey're picking this.
Well, this is from this one andthis is from that, and they're
kind of putting it together, youknow, that kind of thing.
I'm not as I'm attached more tothe movies because it gives me
an opportunity to bond with theyoungsters around me, spend time
(13:29):
with them.
But I do still think I'm thething.
SPEAKER_00 (13:32):
Like, did you guys
like I grew up listening?
Like, we watched the The JusticeLeague, right?
Remember that cartoon where ifit was the first time all these
characters kind of came togetherand they were in the kind of the
same thing?
Like I never read the comics,but I loved the cartoons on
Saturday mornings.
Yeah.
You know, you'd sit in front andwatch all of them Batman,
Superman, Wonder Woman, all ofthat kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_05 (13:52):
Yeah, I was into the
X-Men.
So X-Men 97, X-Men 92, pardonme, was was a big deal for me.
I was 10 years old, and that wasreally my introduction to the
X-Men, being able to see them.
Like I had Saw Wolverine hereand there, because you know,
there was the video game stuff.
So to see them go from thecartoon to the, excuse me, the
(14:12):
video game to the cartoon, itwas like a big deal to see it in
that way.
So I was I I loved the cartoons,you know, when I was a kid.
As I got older, I've started toget back into it with with us
here at the podcast becauseMarvel has did Marvel Zombies,
they did X Men 97, they did WhatIf.
So all of the bringing us backto that space when I was a kid,
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you know, loving it.
SPEAKER_02 (14:36):
Yeah, I I I go back,
I mean, I go back to the 70s.
So I mean, I was in the comicbook, I had comics as a kid, and
then in the 70s you had the TVshows.
So you had the Hulk, Spider-Man,and it was a Spider-Man show,
Lecture Company.
Exactly, all that type of stuff.
So the comic books, the comicthing kind of came from that,
and then I I had a run where Iwas I was ahead, but I I it
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ended probably by the time I gotto middle school, but I had a
run where I was deep in thecomics because back in well in
New York anyway, um, Mickey andPete and Ted, you probably
remember this too.
Um you might you're a littleyounger, but you might remember.
Back then, you buy the comicbooks from like the store, like
the both they like the store.
Stationery.
Like they would be in the store.
You get the mystery pack.
The local stationery.
(15:20):
Yep.
Yeah, you good.
The stationery.
Older than I love.
There you go.
Yeah.
You go in there and read thecomic books on the rack and pick
one.
And they were like cheap.
They were like 10 cents, 25cents.
I had a run where I was deepinto it, but I let it go.
And I I kind of I kind of regretletting it go because they're so
engrossing.
You could like read comic booksand like you forget what time it
is.
(15:40):
You just be like reading andjust like getting your own
world.
unknown (15:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (15:43):
I might get back
into it, you know.
I might get back into it.
SPEAKER_03 (15:45):
You might get the
comic books get you into the
movies more too.
Like, you know.
And so you're getting you'reexcited to see the actual like
motion picture of likeSpider-Man, Toby Maguire's
Spider-Man.
Like, that shit was crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (15:59):
You know what sorry,
what Marvel will do sometimes is
they'll let you know the comicbooks that the actors are
looking at for the roles thatthey're playing, giving you a
chance to read those storylinesto you know maybe bring
everything together when youwatch the movie.
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (16:18):
So, so being so
storied in comic books, and
pardon the pun, but so you guyshave so much of this
information.
When you go and watch the filmadaption of some of these
characters, right?
Are there things that you feellike they're lacking, or are
there things that you feel likethey haven't really, there's so
(16:38):
many ways they could have fullyformed out these characters that
they ain't even really tappedinto yet?
And just opened up a whole canof worms right there.
That's what I wanted.
That's good content.
SPEAKER_05 (16:49):
Let's go.
Let it off, let off your gun.
SPEAKER_03 (16:53):
Get it all, get it
out.
Well, you know I'm a Hulk guy.
You know I'm the Hulk.
There we go.
Always he represents the reasonwhy I love him so much is
because he represents strength,bro.
And I took that on in hip hop.
You know what I'm saying?
I I said, if if I'm gonnaperfect something and do music,
and I have to be strong.
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And so I took that on and keptthat going in my head and
applied it to what I was doing.
But that's another reason why Ilove the comic books because of
the inspiration of the heroes,that they have powers, you know,
you know, they're regularpeople, you know.
Spidey's just a regular dudewith no money.
You know what I'm saying?
But he got them powers, and he'slearning responsibility,
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learning to fight crime.
And, you know, it will it wasbefore Hulk, it was Spider-Man.
This cartoon, the 67 cartoon.
That's it.
I was I was married to thatseries, that series.
And then the music of, you know,I and when that came out, I was
young, I wasn't even born yet,but when I got to, you know, as
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a kid, hear the music comingfrom there.
SPEAKER_02 (18:04):
Yeah, we just can't
put it.
SPEAKER_03 (18:06):
Yeah.
So it was doing something to me,bro.
And I was like, you know what,man?
One day, one day, when maybewe'll get to do something with
this music.
I seen something on YouTubewhere the composer put out the
actual music that we used in theepisodes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (18:23):
That is okay.
So let me just jump in righthere before you go, Chat.
That was the Peter, that was thePeter Rock answer.
SPEAKER_01 (18:30):
Yeah, that wasn't
that wasn't the uh Yeah, I mean,
you know, you know Peter Rock.
SPEAKER_05 (18:36):
I hate Disney.
That's that's that's that'sthat's yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (18:40):
Yeah, you know what?
Hate is a strong word, Mickey.
Can we mitigate that?
I don't know anyway.
Like that's not it.
I'll say he hates their choices.
SPEAKER_01 (18:51):
He doesn't hate
them, he hates their choices.
SPEAKER_03 (18:53):
Right, and how they
dumb down things, that's all.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm so does that do you feellike that comes from like the
head?
Do you feel like that's comingfrom Kevin?
Or do you feel like differentdirectors take different like
let's let's just throw eternalsout there, right?
Let's let's throw that on thetable, right?
(19:14):
I feel like those characterstold the right way could have
been a could have told adifferent story.
But I feel like they put it inin the wrong hand.
Just like Ang Lee with the Hulk.
I feel like Un Lee is anOscar-winning director, an
amazing director, right?
SPEAKER_06 (19:30):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (19:31):
You know what I'm
saying?
Man, he thinks it they just Idon't I I'm wondering, is that
more of the director's vision oris that the way that Kevin
actually wants these things toplay out?
SPEAKER_01 (19:43):
I think I think
Kevin um oversees everything and
makes sure the bigger phasestory that they're trying to
tell is told.
But I think he definitely giveseach uh director and producer
team the autonomy to becreative.
I think that's why creativesactually love to work with him,
even though in like it's in thesuperhero genre and sometimes it
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gets talked down to.
But yeah, I think each one ofthose directors make those makes
those choices themselves.
And I think with the Eternals,especially, I forget her name,
Chloe or whatever the director'sname was.
unknown (20:19):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
So she was going for
the first ever superhero,
superhero Oscar.
She was trying to like, youknow, get a visual effects or
uh, you know, the stunningimagery cinematography.
She was trying to get like a atechnical Oscar or something
with to put that on the booksand put that like I brought the
Oscar to Marvel because you knowit's been a thing that uh
(20:42):
they're not gonna get seriouslylooked at because it's the
superhero genre.
So I but I mean that that's thatone specific, and yes, the the
Eternals could have definitelybeen a different movie.
I'm gonna keep it all the waytrue.
But I mean I enjoyed it still.
SPEAKER_03 (20:54):
And the
sophistication of the acting was
was good.
We just wanted a better story, Iwould say.
Yeah, I feel like I I feel likeyou could argue that Feige
really like you guys do what youwant.
Here's my post credit.
I need you to get tell whateverstory you need to tell to get me
from A to B because I gotta sellB.
(21:15):
I'm really selling B.
You know what I mean?
I need everything, I need allstorylines to point to B, right?
Point to B.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:22):
I think it's with
that, and then sometimes also
well, make sure these keymoments get hit so when I can
relate to B, it makes sense.
Yeah, and and yeah, I thinkthat's it.
And then a lot of the rest is acreative choice, and sometimes
those choices aren't whatspecific comic book fans want to
see.
SPEAKER_00 (21:40):
But isn't that kind
of the beauty though?
Like comics, art, music, I thinkso.
All in the eye of the beholder,right?
So like you that some people aregonna love it, some people are
gonna hate it.
SPEAKER_03 (21:51):
Like that's well, I
didn't like the Aang Lee story,
I didn't like what was written,okay, because that's not the
true origin of who Hulk was.
He's a mixture of Frankensteinand and and and and and Jekyll
and Hyde.
And then you have to remember,like, Aang Lee also tried to
create this film as a comicbook.
Comic book.
(22:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I like the frames and allthat.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah.
So he just put too much sauce onit.
He just put too much sauce onit.
What was your thing?
I I love the Ed Norton onebecause he paid homage, of
course, to the TV show.
But then as a new movie, it wasalso great.
I felt like the leader couldhave been a little bit better,
(22:33):
how he came about.
But what but with Mark, Ithought Mark was great in the
first Avengers, right?
Second Avengers, then it juststarted going left for me with
Mark.
With Mark.
SPEAKER_02 (22:46):
So you like the only
liked the first two Avengers
with Mark, and then you didn'treally like where he went after
that.
SPEAKER_03 (22:51):
Right.
Because they started clowningthem, and then you know, of
course, I didn't like Infinitybecause of Thanos.
He got washed.
He got washed by Thanos, andthen the fact that when they
needed him, he couldn't turn it.
When was it pissed off?
Yeah, that was when yeah.
He nerfed him, they nerfed him.
(23:13):
And so that pissed me off.
That's why I was going aroundpissed off.
SPEAKER_05 (23:18):
There's this meme,
there's this meme about the
Hulk.
So you know, in our community,when we say we're gonna beat the
sense out of a nigga, right?
Thanos was the first person tobeat the sense into a bit, he
beat the Hulk so bad he becamemad smart.
SPEAKER_03 (23:38):
I was so upset.
I was like, why is he crying?
Why is he like, yo, he's coming,he's coming.
No, yeah, they'll feel like theyplayed with him because it's a
smart hulk thing, right?
I don't like that at all.
But even how they introducedthat, even how that came about
and how they introduced that,then they played it in She-Hulk,
and it was just horrible, man.
(23:59):
Please, I I I don't I don't wantto talk about She-Hulk.
SPEAKER_01 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah.
Let's just talk about this allthe time on the on the pod,
right?
But do y'all y'all know that thereason that they're doing this
is copyright issues withuniversal.
Yeah.
So they're skirting how thingscan be played.
Like they can't put Hulk incertain things, they only have
rights to put them in other, youknow, the things that they're
gonna do.
No, they can't they can only putthem in like TV shows and and
(24:26):
like uh features in the movie,and then I guess you know,
they're saving because they'relooking to work out this deal
with Universal, that they'resaving the stuff that they could
be doing that would excite Petevery much until they work it
out.
And the word is that they aregonna work it out, so I think
they gotta get the World WarHulk, right?
SPEAKER_03 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, but I
don't think that's that story's
coming a little bit too early.
SPEAKER_05 (24:50):
I just I think so
too.
I think they're just rushing itnow.
You know, for me, I'm not I'mhalf and half.
I'm the bridge between TatWizard and Pete Rock.
You know what I'm saying?
Like there's stuff that I like,and then there's stuff that I
hate.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
And I I I I agree with Tat onthings, I agree with Pete on
(25:10):
things.
They need to just fix it, theyneed to get back to what they
were doing so we could get backto just having a love
relationship with Comic Con.
SPEAKER_03 (25:18):
But this is all
thrown off, right?
Like we're all off schedulethough, right now, right?
Yeah, technically, we're allwe're not even supposed to be
here right now, right?
Because the entire Kingdomstoryline is gone.
We're not supposed to see Doom.
We weren't supposed to see Doomfor another four or five years.
SPEAKER_05 (25:37):
I agree.
SPEAKER_03 (25:38):
Technically, I
agree, you know?
But I would think the FantasticFour would have popped up this
quick.
SPEAKER_01 (25:43):
We were coming to
Secret Wars anyway.
That was still on that was onthe table when Kang.
It was because it was Kang'smovie, and then it was Secret
Wars Anyway.
So we would have got theyprobably were gonna introduce
Doom in Secret Wars, but but itthat we would have got that
anyway.
So they just veered they veeredoff the last couple movies, but
I mean, I think it it it it gaveus greatness.
(26:06):
We'll see, but you know I thinkuh you know what, Tat, though,
so now Jonathan will be back, Ithink.
That's my prediction.
That's what I think too.
SPEAKER_02 (26:13):
I believe after the
uh obviously the storm has
calmed, and then he did theythey put out the uh the
bodybuilder movie, and and hefeel it feels like he's back to
the space where he could he'llhave to probably do some press
about it.
Yeah, yeah.
He's not gonna be running awayfrom anybody.
Yeah, he won't be able to avoidit, but I think he's in a space
(26:33):
now where he could do some pressabout it and get back into the
universe.
SPEAKER_03 (26:37):
I don't know.
I don't I think that'd be a realreach.
I really do.
I just don't I don't I don't seethem I don't see how they bring
really bring him back anytimesoon.
I think I think they're morebeholden to shareholders and the
court of public opinion than wethink.
And I just don't think it's Idon't think it's time yet.
I think I think we gotta letthat thing breathe a little
(26:58):
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SPEAKER_03 (27:57):
And I know this is a
whole other thing, but like you
know, Travis Scott, right?
Like, Travis Scott had the AstroWorld Festival where people lost
their life.
You know what I'm saying?
He's he's no longer under any,you know, criminal situation,
he's no longer under any civilsituation, and yet he still is
(28:18):
too soon.
Like every year when I would dothe rodeo, I'd be like, yo, can
I can I bring him now?
And it's like it's too soon.
And it's all like this year, itwas all, and he's begging me to
come and put it on.
And there's they just keeptelling me it's like it's too
soon.
It's too soon.
Well, that's that's also, youknow, deaths.
That that's the fraud, that's afar thing.
(28:39):
But I say that to say that Ithink the court of public
opinion is still a little iffyabout Jonathan Major, because he
he's not getting nominated forthe the bodybuilder shit is
bananas.
They keep saying why, yeah.
Yeah, like banana.
They act like that movie didn'teven exist.
You know what I'm saying?
It's whack, man.
It's whack.
They need him back, bro.
(28:59):
They need him back.
I think they've got to get himback into filmmaking in the
front of filmmaking, period.
Right?
Like, I think he's gotta dosomething.
It's gotta click with people.
The public will be like, okay,this is okay, I like this from
him.
He seems, you know, he regretswhat he's done.
He's, you know, you know, he'she's very humble about it.
(29:21):
You know, he's he's gone througheverything he's had to do.
I think we bring him back.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think Disney can bringhim back.
I think he's gotta, the publichas to accept him again, and
then they can be like, okay,well, let's get back to it.
Let's get right back to it.
But if I think about the thewhole thing overall, it's just
like, damn, really?
We doing all of this just to gethim back in the movie.
(29:43):
Well, I don't know any actorthat could replicate this.
SPEAKER_01 (29:47):
He has to refill
this career anyway, so yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:50):
I think they bring
him bigger than just the comic
movies.
It's a bummer, but that dude'san actor actor.
Like that was an actorphenomenon.
I mean, Creed was phenomenal.
Me convinced.
Oh, he's phenomenal.
He was phenomenal.
I was I was like, damn, they gotthe body, got it, he's
phenomenal.
SPEAKER_02 (30:07):
I know you want to
ask all about the Spider-Man,
the multiverse joints.
Like, what's your I mean, I I Ithink part of the anime.
Right?
The Spanimated one?
Hell yeah.
Both was amazing.
They just started.
The way they used the music inboth of them, especially the
Biggie in there.
SPEAKER_03 (30:27):
I was like, yeah,
yep, big, yep, they had the hip
hop in there.
I was loving that.
It's the only thing Sony's doingright.
Yeah.
With Marvel.
Yes.
I would argue multiverse.
Multiverse is probably top fivebest Marvel movies ever made.
I think what they're doing, whatthat storyline is really, huh?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (30:46):
I'm not mad at that.
I'm not mad at that at all.
SPEAKER_03 (30:48):
No, no, I I and I
think they're I think the
animation allows them to craftthat storyline with more purity.
SPEAKER_06 (30:56):
Right?
SPEAKER_03 (30:57):
Because there's so
many different things you would
you would might want to do, andit doesn't really translate.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I look at Strange andSpider-Man in the in the
multiverse and the spaces, andthen I look at it, the storyline
through the animation.
It's just animation just affordsyou so much nuance.
You can do so much.
You can do a lot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:23):
They don't have any
restrictions on the actor,
right, or the character, or whatthey want to do.
They can they can just if theyhave an idea, it's done.
SPEAKER_03 (31:31):
You know, seeing
blood in the Wolverine versus
Hulk, that shit was crazy,seeing them bleed like that.
That was yeah.
It can translate from a comicbook to or a graphic novel to an
animation without losing anyreal generations, right?
They can basically, whatever thelook and feel is, we can go for.
And they can play with the lookof it, right?
(31:53):
It can, you know, I don't knowhow you would turn like a
regular Marvel story into asamurai story or in the way that
what am I getting at?
Like the the animation style inparticular that they shoot in,
right?
That does there's no way to dothat with live action.
SPEAKER_05 (32:08):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:09):
You know what I'm
saying?
No.
Well, yeah, but but we know thatwith this particular style of
animation that we're gonna get,like combat is gonna look
different, movement is gonnalook different, the threat will
be much more imminent, right?
There's a lot more use ofshadows and things like that.
(32:29):
It really, really helps to setthe tone of the room and to
combine what the intention ofthe writing and the art is
really meant to be.
They really they're nailing itover there.
I was talking to Giggs aboutthis, who is you guys should get
gigs on.
Huge, huge comic book.
Oh, yeah?
Love it.
Absolutely.
He and I talk about films allthe time.
(32:54):
That's a big he believes that hebelieves that into the
multiverse might be one of thebest films ever.
I think he believes he believesit might be second only to like
endgame.
Like he looks like that.
SPEAKER_02 (33:06):
Multiverse was
incredible.
I mean, the first time I sawthat in the theater, I was like,
I'm gonna link y'all and get himon the show.
SPEAKER_03 (33:14):
He's talking about
the fighting multiverse, right?
SPEAKER_02 (33:15):
Yeah, we're talking
about it.
This is like the old blackSpider-Man competition.
SPEAKER_00 (33:22):
You don't you don't
you don't fuck with it like
that, Tom?
No, I'm just shocked that numberone Yo, if yeah, you've seen it,
right?
SPEAKER_02 (33:29):
Really?
I've seen it.
SPEAKER_00 (33:30):
I think I might have
to rewatch it now.
SPEAKER_03 (33:34):
When when when
Tatala started it started
getting, you know, that got meemotional.
You know what I'm saying?
Tablet.
SPEAKER_05 (33:41):
I got I got it over,
I got it over Endgame.
Endgame was why don't you likeEndgame?
I like it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:47):
It's the only part I
like in it.
He liked it the first time andthen he rewatched it, and then
now it's just trash.
Terrible.
SPEAKER_03 (33:54):
Well, you say that's
it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:55):
I don't understand
this.
Yo, check this out.
Check this out.
SPEAKER_03 (33:58):
It's the best, it's
the best movie ending of all
time.
Mickey breaks down, break itdown.
SPEAKER_01 (34:05):
He prefers the
cliffhanger of Infinity War.
SPEAKER_05 (34:08):
Endgame to me is
like going to an amusement park,
and it's the best ride at theamusement park.
You're gonna get on that ride,and that first ride on that on
that ride, on that, whatever thewhatever it might be, you're
like, oh my gosh, this is thebest ride.
And then the second time you geton that ride is not as the same,
(34:31):
it's not thrilling.
I listen, I saw it the night itcame out, Thursday night.
I went to Manhattan and I wasblown away.
SPEAKER_03 (34:39):
We all did.
Of course.
SPEAKER_05 (34:40):
We we all I know for
a fact I saw it Thursday night.
I think I think it wasincredible.
SPEAKER_03 (34:44):
I saw it the first
day it came out.
SPEAKER_05 (34:46):
I went to go see it
again, and I'm like, I don't
think this is that good.
Now it was- Why not?
What changed?
What changed?
What changed?
It felt more like fan servicethan it did like film.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
It felt more if it yes, it was aculmination, they had to do a
lot, but it just didn't have it,it was too much therapy in it.
I didn't care.
(35:07):
All of that, it was just toomuch.
Too much therapy?
I didn't have time for all that.
And I was the o I almost got Ialmost got murdered because when
Tony Stark died, people werecrying and I was cheering.
SPEAKER_03 (35:24):
I was like, he's
stupid.
Okay, all right, all right, allright.
We deal we're dealing with adifferent type of dude.
SPEAKER_02 (35:32):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (35:33):
We're dealing with a
different type of dude.
SPEAKER_01 (35:35):
First of all, I need
some uh psychological tests
here.
I was so happy.
But don't you think?
SPEAKER_03 (35:39):
I'm gonna get all
your parents book opinions with
a grain of salt at this point.
Let me ask you.
Do y'all agree with y'all agreewith Iron Man Dying Man?
Yeah, but you there's room to bewrong, Mickey.
There's room to be wrong.
SPEAKER_05 (35:52):
But wait, listen,
listen.
Yo, Bun loved that movie, huh?
Okay, so Pete, I don't agreewith Iron Man dying.
Okay, I don't agree with him.
SPEAKER_03 (36:01):
But I was like, I
don't agree with that.
SPEAKER_05 (36:03):
I just didn't like
that everything revolved around
Iron Man.
SPEAKER_03 (36:07):
Around Tony.
SPEAKER_05 (36:08):
That was my issue
with Iron Man.
So with him with him dying, itremoved Doomsday.
SPEAKER_06 (36:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (36:15):
But Spider-Man was
Iron.
It was he was like an Iron Man.
Spider-Man was literally IronMan in the MCU.
He was the Iron Spider.
He was literally, yeah, whateveryou want to call it.
He was Iron Man.
That's the version.
I didn't like that.
I didn't like it.
SPEAKER_03 (36:30):
I absolutely
disagree.
I absolutely disagree.
This entire MCU is built aroundIron Man, Tony Stark.
That's fine.
Everything is about it.
And he wanted, and they gave himhis, and he wanted out.
I think he won it out.
I think here's the thing theyhad to decide who snapped him,
(36:52):
right?
Yes.
They had to kind of figure outwho was gonna snap this thing.
Right?
And Tony was the only one thathad put in enough work and
enough time.
I'm talking about it within theMCU, right?
This is strictly on the filmaspect of everything.
Nobody else has got the right tosnap that, right?
Nobody else has got the right tosnap that.
And Tony Stark, as a man, is notstrong enough to survive that
(37:14):
snap.
The power of that snap.
Focus.
Exactly.
That's the whole thing.
But it gave him, but what I'msaying is it gave him.
I hate the funeral.
That's what I hate.
I'll be honest.
I ain't got no problem with Tonydying.
I wasn't crazy about theservice.
No, why not?
I thought niggas should havebeen way more somber.
SPEAKER_01 (37:33):
It's too small.
SPEAKER_03 (37:35):
Like, no, no, like
no.
I ain't really see nobody cryingat that hole.
Like, y'all wrong for this shit.
They had superhero attitudes.
That niggas, that nigga sayeverybody, bro.
He says everybody.
SPEAKER_01 (37:46):
Damn, right.
SPEAKER_03 (37:48):
Damn, that was my
dude.
Like a nigga you went to schoolwith.
Like, no, give him, give him hisdue.
SPEAKER_00 (37:56):
Do you think that he
wanted out?
Like the actor wanted out?
SPEAKER_05 (38:00):
I think this was it
for him.
I think his character art.
Why is he better then?
Because they because they paidhim a lot of money.
They paid him a crazy amount ofmoney.
SPEAKER_03 (38:15):
All right, let's
let's ask this question.
Let me ask this question to myguest today.
Who would you have been happy tosee take that mask off at that
Comic Con?
If it wasn't Tony, that wouldthat you would say, okay, now we
got the movie.
SPEAKER_05 (38:29):
Good question.
That's a good question.
Now we got a door.
Cillian Murphy.
SPEAKER_01 (38:36):
Yeah, he was the
talk of the town before they
introduced RDJ again.
SPEAKER_03 (38:42):
And I think a lot of
people nobody screams Piaky
Blinders as much as me.
I love him and Peaky Blinders.
Doom?
He got a great scarecrow.
He's a good enough actor, right?
I think he can get the emotionand the intention of the
character down.
But that's like he's notphysically imposing, though.
So, okay.
He's frail.
(39:02):
He's like, he's not.
I'm not saying go get JackReacher.
I'm not saying go get that dude,right?
But I don't know, man.
Like we're thinking Marvelvillain.
Like, there's gotta be some.
I just don't, I don't think he'sphysically imposing enough.
I feel like Doom's gotta be.
Robin Jr.
is not physically imposing.
No, Robert Johnny Jr.
(39:22):
is a little dude.
He's a little dude.
Yeah.
But would you rather have abigger actor?
Like, like who would who like,you know?
I don't know.
SPEAKER_05 (39:31):
Who would be your
choice for Doom?
SPEAKER_03 (39:34):
That's that's hard
because we don't have a
present-day Russell Crowe-esqueguy.
Like, there's no Gerard Butleror anybody like that.
I don't think, I don't thinklike a Garrett Hudlin could do
it.
Who's that that's playing EdGean right now?
The head of the Sons of Anarchy.
He's like the head of the of thegang in Sons of Anarchy.
(39:54):
I don't watch the show, so Idon't know.
SPEAKER_01 (39:57):
Ron Pearlman?
SPEAKER_03 (39:58):
No, no, it's not Ron
Pearlman.
It's Charlie Hunning.
Is it Charlie Hunning?
SPEAKER_01 (40:03):
Jax from Sons of
Anarchy?
Yeah, Charlie Hillen, yeah,yeah.
Charlie Hillen, yes.
Oh, he's playing Ed Gean.
I gotta start that.
Crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (40:14):
I gotta crazy.
That's a rough movie.
That's a rough like series.
I ain't gonna front.
SPEAKER_05 (40:19):
I like Cillian.
I like Cillian, man.
I think Cillian's he did well inthe Dark Knight series.
He did well on Peaky Blinders.
SPEAKER_03 (40:28):
Yeah, but if you
look at him in the Dark Knight,
if you look at him in the DarkKnight series, he's like a
little weasel.
SPEAKER_01 (40:34):
It makes sense for
the Scarecrow in the Dark
Knight, but I think you get pastthe physical if he acted his ass
off as Doom.
I think.
SPEAKER_03 (40:41):
Well, we know he
can't act like a mother.
Like I won't take that away fromhim at all.
He's a bad motherfucker.
He will give you what aboutAdrian Brody?
I would have I take Adrian Brodyas that as dirty mysterious.
What about Fenster from theusual suspects?
SPEAKER_02 (40:57):
Up in the beast.
SPEAKER_03 (40:59):
Kevin Spacey.
He got the face, you know, no,no.
He's talking about Benicio.
He's talking about Benicious.
Oh, Benicio.
Benicious.
He's a collector.
He's a collector.
He's already in the MC.
SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
Hey, what about what
about Brian?
Or is he too old from BreakingBad?
Brian.
Yeah.
Yeah, Brian Crasnner.
I take that.
He might be a little old forDoom.
He might be a little old, butman, he's got that vibe.
SPEAKER_01 (41:25):
You got me.
SPEAKER_05 (41:26):
I don't know about
Brian Krasner.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (41:29):
He's definitely a
little too old.
I mean, he might be a little tooold.
SPEAKER_05 (41:36):
We don't have
course.
SPEAKER_03 (41:37):
No, no, I don't
know, but what I'm saying is,
like, well, I don't know,because they figure out how to
make Tom Cruise imposing everyyear, and that nigga's five's
every year.
I'm watching, watching TulsaKing right now, and I'm like,
nigga, Sylvester Stone is abeast at five foot three and a
half.
Like crazy.
(41:58):
You know what though?
You just said somethinginteresting, though.
Who said Ron Pearlman?
SPEAKER_01 (42:02):
That was what I
thought you were saying.
Yeah, Ron Pearl said it.
Ron Pearlman, he's he could.
He's long in the team.
He's long in the teeth.
He was Lion King and Hellboy.
So he was Hellboy.
SPEAKER_02 (42:17):
Yeah, he was
Hellboy.
SPEAKER_05 (42:18):
You know what I'm
saying?
But he has a bunch of topicvoice, but I don't know.
Yeah, he's definitely too old.
I don't know about Ron Perlman.
SPEAKER_03 (42:24):
Let's okay, they
gotta have black hair.
I don't know enough about thisright now.
Are Doom and Reed Richardssupposed to be around the same
age?
SPEAKER_05 (42:36):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (42:37):
They went to high
school together.
They went to school together.
So that's gonna determine thatkicks the Ron Prolans and the
Brian Cranstons out of theequation automatically.
SPEAKER_05 (42:47):
All right, but let
me let me let I'ma say a name,
and he would never do it.
This would have took for MCU.
Okay.
That's the universe tellingthem.
Don't even do it.
I don't know what's going onwith my computer.
I'm not I'm not in Atlanta rightnow.
It might be because you're inbed.
Am I frozen again?
Freezing facts.
It could be that freezing facts.
Freezing facts.
(43:07):
You get out of bed and get to adesk like the rest of us.
Loungey.
I'm in New York, man.
This is well I got Daniel DayLewis as Doom.
SPEAKER_01 (43:17):
Daniel Day Lewis.
Now you're saying something.
He might be still a little tooold, but now you're saying
something.
SPEAKER_03 (43:25):
Now we're getting
there.
unknown (43:27):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (43:28):
Yeah.
If if this were the time periodthat we're in in Gangs of
London, like that, Daniel DayLewis, 100%.
I mean Gangs in New York.
What do y'all think about?
No, no Ryan Gosling.
SPEAKER_03 (43:40):
Ryan Gosling.
Why why no Ryan Gosling?
He's physically imposed.
Ryan Gosling.
Is he too?
I like Ryan Gosling.
So Ryan Gosling.
But I don't know that his own.
Are you saying he didn't care?
You think that he'll be tooRyan, he's too handsome.
He's too Ryan Gosling.
Yeah, he's too Ryan threatening.
He's too la laying.
(44:01):
He's not be honest.
That's what took me out of thenew Blade Runner, was him being
the new Blade Runner.
SPEAKER_01 (44:06):
Like that's I mean,
this is more blade runner than
we didn't do better than ourguy, Harrison.
SPEAKER_05 (44:13):
What about Matthew
McConaughey?
McConaughey's dope.
All right, all right.
All right.
SPEAKER_01 (44:18):
Blind, right?
All right, all right, all right.
I got you guys in trouble now.
SPEAKER_05 (44:26):
I thought you said
it had to be a brunette.
SPEAKER_02 (44:30):
I gotta ask a
question.
What was your thoughts on thenew spot on the new Superman?
I love it.
SPEAKER_03 (44:36):
Okay, let's go.
I'm gonna back out of thisbecause that's not my Superman.
Like somebody had to tell me,somebody had to explain to me,
nigga.
I'ma say I don't like jokes inmovies.
I'ma say that, and then I don'tI only liked Mr.
Terrific.
Sorry.
You must hate Thor.
You must hate Thor with a penny.
(44:56):
I hated Love and Thunder.
I hated it.
You like Ragnarok?
I didn't like Ragnarok either.
I thought you no, I didn't.
I didn't like that.
Ragnarok started.
Like, come on, man.
Killing it.
He knows.
(45:17):
It was explained to me that thiswas not my Superman.
Like, I first thought I had aconversation about what I didn't
like about this Superman movie.
I won't get into it.
And the person I was arguingwith was like, nigga, they told
your Superman story twice.
What more?
Like, get out the way.
There's more Supermanstorylines.
(45:39):
Because you got to remember, Igrew up with the Christopher
Reed General Zod.
And then they brought GeneralZod right back.
So that they were like, yo, yourSuperman, that story has already
been told twice.
Oh, you want us to?
How many more General Zodiac?
How many more times?
There are more.
SPEAKER_01 (45:55):
There are definitely
more storylines for Superman.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03 (45:58):
So I'll give him
credit for that.
And yeah, I think everybodyacross the board agrees that Mr.
Terrific was to me the best partof the story.
He was the show.
He stole the show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he could speak.
He was an X-Men too, bud.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (46:13):
They killed him off
too quick.
They killed him quick.
SPEAKER_03 (46:16):
And he was a
character.
He was the one that couldsurvive anything, right?
Yeah, he had that hard skin orwhatever.
SPEAKER_01 (46:23):
But and this is a
distinction that we've kind of
set in this, and and like tomake sure we keep that line
there.
That was pre-MCU.
Everything after the MCU hasbeen a different thing.
And it's been better, even whenit's not good.
SPEAKER_03 (46:39):
Okay, that's fair.
SPEAKER_01 (46:41):
I could get with
that.
SPEAKER_03 (46:44):
Better doesn't mean
great, it just means better.
I'll give you that.
Better than before.
Yep.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (46:49):
I'm gonna get the
butts back on track here for a
minute.
Okay, okay.
I want to hear from these guys.
You guys now have a comicculture show.
Why, why?
Why did you decide to actuallydo this?
And I mean, we're kind ofhearing a little bit of it.
You absolutely have opinions onall this stuff.
And why is your show gonna bedifferent than any other comic
(47:09):
show out there?
SPEAKER_05 (47:10):
Well, for me, you
know, that wizard had has he had
a uh clubhouse room, and that'show I kind of you know knew that
he was into the comics from thatperspective.
Me and Pete were talking, weweren't even talking about
music.
I would never reach out to Peteand be like, let me get a beat.
(47:31):
Let me do it.
We would literally just kind oftalk.
You have stop lying.
SPEAKER_00 (47:34):
Well, I've actually
heard you asking for a beat.
SPEAKER_05 (47:38):
A me who got the
beat right a few times.
But you know, it's like 90, it'slike a 90-10 thing.
Uh, we we talk mostly comicsover music.
Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_03 (47:47):
Yeah, we do, we do,
we do, we do.
SPEAKER_05 (47:48):
And I was like, yo,
man, we probably need to kind of
let people know how we thinkabout this.
And I I felt like it was a greatspace between someone who loves
what's happening, right, withtat, and then somebody who kind
of has some uh some disdain, Idon't want to say hate, right?
Disdain to what was happening inthe world.
(48:09):
It was that, man.
Yeah, yeah, that was you alittle bit.
And and I was the bridge.
I was this guy that was like, Ilike some of it, I don't like
some of this.
And this creates a great synergybetween two opposite polar sides
that we could kind of talk aboutand debate on and be up to date
on it because we were justtalking about it separately in
(48:31):
text messages.
And I felt I I personally feellike us coming together is now
allowing people to see that hey,yeah, we all all three of us do
music as our you know frontlinespace, but we also have a vast
knowledge of comic culture andwe and we love it and we share
that love with each other.
(48:52):
Yeah, I love this three-holddynamics.
SPEAKER_02 (49:01):
What it's putting me
up on is I just because I'm not
tapped into comic book culturelike I was as a kid, I have I
had no knowledge of how manymusic people are tapped in.
Like every time I click, they'resaying, oh yeah, mom, yeah, you
you know.
Like I I had Reef on my show uhtwo weeks ago, I guess now, and
(49:21):
he's the one who told me aboutPaz from Day Live.
Yeah.
And I've known Pops forever.
I had no idea.
SPEAKER_03 (49:29):
Like man pose are
the same way.
SPEAKER_02 (49:31):
Like I had no idea
that that, like, and there's
many more people like that inthe in the business that are
like so deeply tapped into thecomic culture.
I had no, I just had noknowledge.
SPEAKER_00 (49:42):
Why do you think
that is?
Why do you think there's such aclose connection between comic
book culture and hip hop comics?
SPEAKER_03 (49:47):
I can teach you that
without even being a collector.
I think it's it's all it's apart of our childhood.
I think for many of us, thosetwo things came into our lives
around the same time, if I if Ihad to guess, based on the guys
that are talking in this room.
You can almost tell based on thepeople they like and the
characters and that they're intoand stuff like that, and the the
disdain that Mickey has for somany different parts of it.
(50:10):
You can tell when they fell inlove, but you can tell when they
fell in love with these books.
You know what I'm saying?
You can tell who they gravitatedto.
It's the same thing with hiphop, you know what I'm saying?
We all kind of found it the sameway.
We gravitated to certain people,certain styles of it.
And that's kind of you know,that's that's just me, you know,
looking at it for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (50:28):
I agree, and uh add
on top of that, I think because
of growing up with it uh at thesame time, a lot of rappers got
their vocabulary and how theyput their rhymes together from
the comics.
You know, there's sayings thatwhen you watch some of those
cartoons, and it's like how avillain says something
sometimes, you're like, that'sfrom that's a rap bar, but this
(50:52):
came out before the rap bar.
I'm like, yo, this so it justmakes me feel like you know, a
lot of rappers took thatcreativity and expounded on it
and got to their greatness.
SPEAKER_03 (51:03):
I was gonna say
something, but I'm I'm gonna
save it for I'ma save it fory'all coming at me because my my
first rap name is superhero kindof derivatives oh we gotta save
that.
SPEAKER_00 (51:15):
We'll get we'll get
to that.
SPEAKER_03 (51:17):
We gotta save that.
We'll get to that.
I just thought about who I'mtalking to.
I'm like, I gotta talk aboutthis.
I gotta talk about this.
SPEAKER_02 (51:25):
But I'm gonna save
it for y'all.
I'm gonna save it for y'all.
The two things that that I'veI've I've said I've discovered,
because I'm not really tappingeither either one of these
cultures, that rappers are sodeeply tapped into besides
music, obviously, are comics andwrestling.
Yes, wrestling.
Wrestling.
And they kind of, if you if youlook at it, they all kind of
kind of make sense as to whysame thing.
(51:46):
You said like wrestling also ischaracters and the speeches of
Ric Flair.
Energy thing.
Ric Flair is a god.
That's a good point.
SPEAKER_01 (51:53):
The confidence.
SPEAKER_02 (51:54):
Ric Flair is a god.
SPEAKER_03 (51:56):
But you know,
rapper, rappers like to craft
themselves as a larger-than-lifepersona.
You know what I'm saying?
And the superhero and thewrestling aesthetic clearly
leads into that.
And again, I don't know how itis for women, but I know for
men, like little boys, likethat's what you wanna, you want
to be like the Hulk or Superman.
(52:18):
Like you take that on.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to be able to knock outeverybody and run faster than
everybody and you know, shoot abetter shot and knock a baseball
faster, like all of that.
And those kind of characterslive in that larger-than-life
world.
Like they live in a world wherethey're picking up 300-pound men
and slamming them on the ground.
(52:38):
That's as close to a realsuperhero that you're gonna see
in the flesh.
They come out with the cape, thecostume, you know what I'm
saying, the theatrics of it, themusic to accompany them.
And what do they do?
They go on the ring and theyknock out the villain and they
put their foot on their chest,type of shit, you know?
Like that's it.
That's victory.
Wrestling is as close tosuperhero aesthetic as we get in
(53:04):
real life.
That's a fact.
In real life, you're right.
Absolutely.
That's a fact.
I agree with that.
SPEAKER_00 (53:11):
Before we end, I'd
like to end with a little bit of
lightning round questions.
All right.
So we'll go around the horn.
We'll start with Pete.
SPEAKER_03 (53:19):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (53:20):
Favorite villain.
SPEAKER_03 (53:22):
Ooh.
Oh, wow.
My favorite villain has to beGalactus.
SPEAKER_01 (53:30):
Doom there's no
greater villain.
That's true.
That had to be different.
For sure.
SPEAKER_00 (53:37):
Mickey.
The Joker.
Ooh, that's a good one.
unknown (53:42):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (53:43):
For me?
That's a good one.
That's a good question.
I hadn't really thought aboutthat.
That's a good question.
I I didn't know you were goingaround this table.
Um, we're gonna be obscurebecause this I don't know if
this is a comic book.
This is more of a graphic novel.
Say what you feel, bro.
I really I really like theconquest angle and incredible
(54:05):
and uh Invincible.
I don't know if anybody'swatching Invincible.
I think Invincible is I thinkInvincible is the best series.
I think it's the best thing youcan actually watch on
television.
Invincible.
Yeah, I love what's this.
I gotta watch this.
It's good.
It's really, really good.
(54:25):
So I would say right now,Conquest, because I don't know
how they're gonna is BattleBeast a villain at this point?
SPEAKER_01 (54:31):
In Invincible, yeah.
In Invincible, yeah.
Yes, Battle Beast.
SPEAKER_03 (54:34):
Battle Beast for
sure.
SPEAKER_01 (54:36):
He's he's crazy with
it.
SPEAKER_03 (54:37):
Yeah, I would say
that's my favorite villain right
now.
SPEAKER_00 (54:39):
That's your
favorite.
SPEAKER_02 (54:41):
Yes, I'm I I I got a
uh a tie because they're both in
the same kind of pocket.
Um Killmonger and Thanos.
Because were they really wrong?
I don't, you know, so it's kindof they were they were they were
ill, but like they were kind ofmaking some sense in a lot of
ways.
They were harsh and within thestuff.
They were fighting for stuff,yeah.
(55:01):
So what the heck exactly, Pete.
They had a they had in a weirdintegrity to what they were
doing, you know.
So those are my two faves.
I'll give you a few.
SPEAKER_03 (55:11):
I'll give Thanos
credit because he was
indiscriminate, right?
Yeah, like it was just likewe're just gonna kill half.
I'm just going, live, die, live,die.
I'm not picking no favorites,all right?
Like, we're gonnaindiscriminately kill half of
y'all.
SPEAKER_01 (55:26):
Except for Gamora.
Yeah, he dusted her off.
Yeah, he's like, nah, you know,matter of fact, here you come
with me.
I got you.
Let me hold it.
Let me hold that.
SPEAKER_00 (55:35):
All right, question.
I'm going with Joker, by theway.
I gotta go with the Joker.
I love that joker.
SPEAKER_03 (55:38):
Okay, yeah, no, that
Joker's a great fucking villain.
It is.
SPEAKER_00 (55:43):
Which one though,
Bon?
Which which what who whichperson do you think was the best
actor of the Joker?
SPEAKER_03 (55:51):
He agree with it.
I I'm gonna say Heath.
Mickey, you got a real desertedlook on your face.
I like you.
SPEAKER_05 (56:02):
I like Jack Jack.
I like Jack.
I can't do that.
I like Jack.
Yeah, Jack.
I I'm not saying that Heath isnot the best.
I'm saying that if it's Heath,it's 1A and Jack is 1B.
And it and it can alternatedepending on when you watch it.
Now, wait a minute.
SPEAKER_01 (56:19):
We're sleeping on
who's the current guy?
SPEAKER_00 (56:21):
Joaquin Phoenix.
SPEAKER_01 (56:23):
No, that's an
off-world thing.
Does that not count?
We don't it does.
It counts.
It does age joker, yes.
So does Jared Leto.
We don't want to let orwhatever.
We don't want to.
He's out.
He's out.
SPEAKER_03 (56:36):
Well that that's his
problem.
That's his fault.
Like, you know, like he couldhe's a good enough actor.
He just let it, it just laidflat, to be fair.
Yeah, he overshot it.
He's had a wrestling thing.
It's the writing.
The scene with Jared Leto andCommon, where he's like, What's
up, dog, and all that type ofshit?
And his mom tried to be a homiewith the gold grill and all that
(57:00):
shit.
Like, get out of here.
SPEAKER_00 (57:04):
Question number two
of three.
Dream cameo, dream comic cameofor yourself.
SPEAKER_01 (57:11):
Like in which book
we'd want to be in.
SPEAKER_00 (57:13):
You can take it as a
book or as a movie.
I take it as a movie.
Movie's more fun.
SPEAKER_01 (57:18):
That we would want
to be in.
You want to be in?
Yeah.
That you want to be in.
Good questions, huh?
I would want to be in.
SPEAKER_05 (57:27):
You would be in the
movie.
Okay.
Avengers.
SPEAKER_01 (57:30):
It would have to be
a cameo.
SPEAKER_00 (57:34):
Shit.
Avengers.
I guess Avengers, you could beone of many that pop up.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (57:39):
I mean, yeah, I
guess technically it'd be crazy
to be actually in Secret Wars,considering they'd have they're
gonna have everybody in SecretWars, then it'd be like, yo, I'm
in there too.
Like that'd be crazy.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (57:54):
I think Secret Wars,
Secret Wars.
Put me in a new multiverse,whatever the with the third
multiverse is.
SPEAKER_03 (58:00):
Put me in Doomsday.
I'll be in Doom.
SPEAKER_02 (58:04):
Spider Verse.
It's some type of character,like a music character, like a
DJ, or something.
Just put me in there because Iknow they got the music rocket.
SPEAKER_00 (58:12):
Hey Bun, what if
that thing came up in for Doom
and it was you?
SPEAKER_03 (58:18):
That's not the
movie.
That's I will say this.
I always thought, to me, Ithought that the best payoff in
the MCU was the Sam Wilson onyour left.
On your left.
That came back.
When the entire army of Thanoswas coming at him and out of
(58:39):
nowhere, you just hear inEndgame.
Sorry, Mickey.
Sorry, Mickey.
But when he comes up and youhear Kat on your left, and I'm
like, shit.
Like, I have goosebumps nowrecalling the moment.
Yeah.
Circle open up and you're like,Mickey is nothing.
Mickey feels nothing.
(58:59):
And then you had the womenbrigade coming.
SPEAKER_02 (59:01):
Mickey's dead
inside.
SPEAKER_03 (59:02):
I didn't like the
therapy.
It's crazy because when I talkedto Giggs about it, Giggs left
the theater disappointed.
Really?
He was like, it's a good movie,but I don't know.
And then like a month later, hewas like, yo, I just watched it
again.
It's the greatest shit I eversaw in my life.
Like I'm sorry.
(59:24):
Like, I've I've seen a lot ofmovies.
I've been going to movies a lot.
I've seen a lot of great movies.
But that that moment, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (59:32):
The way they put
that together is crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (59:34):
The way they put
that and they came out of, bro,
the whole fucking room exploded,bro.
Stop.
The whole room exploded.
SPEAKER_01 (59:43):
When do have you
ever seen 20 something movies in
one movie?
SPEAKER_03 (59:48):
Let me ask y'all
this.
I think this may be a problem.
Mickey, let me ask you Doeshaving read having read so many
comic books and having such athorough knowledge of
storylines?
Do these movies tend to let youdown?
SPEAKER_05 (01:00:02):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (01:00:03):
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Now I can't.
SPEAKER_05 (01:00:05):
Big time.
SPEAKER_01 (01:00:07):
Can I interject
something?
That's what we talk about.
Can I interject something?
As you pointed out, Bun, there'sother storylines.
And they're trying to allsometimes get other things out.
And it's like, why can't yougive them that grace just
because it's not your storyline?
It's not a bad movie.
It's just not what thecomplaints I hear from these
guys a lot of times is it's nottheir storyline.
(01:00:28):
Not that it's always a badmovie, it's because the choices
that they made.
And it's like, let them maketheir choices.
Some some of the stuff ain'tgreat.
SPEAKER_03 (01:00:35):
I'm just talking
about this with Superman.
I just talked about this withthe Superman.
The Superman movie is not aterrible movie, but because it's
not my storyline, I can'tconnect to certain characters.
Like I really didn't, I it wasvery hard to get past the
elemental dude, right?
Like it was just he was veryoff-putting with the with the
octopus legs, and that baby wasone of the worst things I've
(01:00:59):
ever seen in a CGI movie.
SPEAKER_01 (01:01:01):
Maybe CGI and babies
left.
SPEAKER_03 (01:01:03):
But because I don't
know what this baby becomes, I
don't know, right?
Like I'm sure there's asignificant reason as to why
this baby is green and lookslike how it looks.
Because we God knows looking atthe father, I don't know what
the mom looks like, so I don'tknow.
So to me, it looked, and thenSuperman swimming in like a
river of crystals and shit.
I just it it just it just lostme.
(01:01:26):
It just really lost me.
I couldn't get into I keptwaiting for Buddy to come back.
I mean, I kept waiting for thisterrific.
Listen, I'm not mad.
This is terrific in thisterrific in this movie, is me in
this movie.
Like, man, move, man.
Y'all, y'all bullshit.
Like, get the fuck out of theway, bro.
You play too much.
What the dumbest is.
Why are you sitting on this spotline, bro?
We're supposed to be gone bynow, type of shit.
(01:01:48):
It's like he keeps waiting forthe whole movie to catch up with
him.
I agree.
The whole audience, everybody tocatch up with him.
SPEAKER_05 (01:01:56):
Endgame is terrible.
Listen, crazy truth.
Here we go with the therapyagain.
The first hour was therapy.
The second hour was Back to theFuture 4.
Wow.
Hopefully.
No get back from Hulk.
SPEAKER_03 (01:02:11):
Nope.
Nope.
SPEAKER_05 (01:02:12):
It was, it was, it
was just sloppy.
A rat.
A rat is is why Ant-Man got outof the of the quantum realm.
A rat.
But it's already known.
SPEAKER_03 (01:02:22):
It's already known
that Thanos hates fighting the
Hulk.
SPEAKER_05 (01:02:26):
He hates it.
They killed him in the first 10minutes.
In the comic books.
What are we doing here, man?
SPEAKER_03 (01:02:32):
Like he hates
fighting the Hulk.
That's gonna be weird.
That's why I'm kind of glad Ihaven't read as many comics as
y'all, so I can still enjoy someof this shit.
SPEAKER_00 (01:02:41):
All right.
I got my last question.
And this is an urgent one forwhat we're talking about.
SPEAKER_03 (01:02:47):
I'd be like, I don't
give a fuck about no script,
man.
Just as long as that shit isjust fucking make me happy shit.
I just don't, I just don't, Idon't know what you know.
I don't know what you know.
So I don't go into the moviewith level.
I don't go into the movie withexpecting levels of discernment.
Like to me, they're making greatentertainment, right?
(01:03:11):
But I don't have the same entrypoint as y'all have, right?
I don't have a dog in this racelike you do.
Right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
If you want to talk about theNWA movie or some shit like
that, I can critique that.
I got dogs in those races.
I know what's real in that andwhat's not.
Like I know where the filler ison that type of shit.
(01:03:33):
I'm telling you.
All right, all right, Thomas,what do you got?
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:37):
Question three and
the last question.
Oh, good.
The storyline that you thinkshould have ended differently.
Endgame.
SPEAKER_03 (01:03:44):
Endgame.
Endgame.
I mean, that's my answer too.
Really.
It really, I was gonna say that.
SPEAKER_05 (01:03:50):
Endgame should have
ended differently.
So no death of Iron Man?
No.
He doesn't die.
So I don't think okay.
So I I cheered when he died, butI only cheered when he died
because he was doing down onthis shit.
He really button, he was doingtoo much.
(01:04:12):
I I I wanted to see other peopledo things, bro.
I feel that right there.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like I don't, I don't, Ididn't want him to quote unquote
die.
He was just doing too much, bro.
He started, he creating Ultron,he giving Spider-Man a suit, you
know, he's he's but he does allof those things.
SPEAKER_03 (01:04:32):
No, no, no.
Mickey, Mickey, Mickey, hecreated the vision too.
If that's the case, if the core,if literally the core founding
pillar of the MCU is doing toomuch, who do you believe is the
most single most underutilizedperson in Marvel's canon?
(01:04:52):
That they just that they justthey play.
Because I I think it's three Ithink it's Drax.
I think like they I think likethey nerfed Drax all the way
through this.
SPEAKER_05 (01:05:01):
I think I honestly
listen, I think power wise that
he didn't do much.
I think it's the Hulk.
I think the Hulk is the mostunderutilized character in the
MCU.
Well, we don't know why.
I agree with you.
SPEAKER_03 (01:05:15):
But that's all like
they don't understand the story
and they're not telling itthere's a you guys say there's a
legal reason.
Legal issue.
Technically, they're notunderutilizing him, they're
utilizing him as much as theycan.
Right?
Like they're doing what theycan.
Right.
So, okay, so if I can't use theHulk.
(01:05:37):
I mean, you can, but uh, weunderstand why.
Like I'm talking about acharacter, if they're that's in
a bunch of movies that gets alot of screen time, but they're
not really fleshing thischaracter out in the way they
should.
SPEAKER_05 (01:05:48):
Okay, for me, uh and
you guys gotta hear me out on
this.
For me, it would be it would beDoctor Strange.
Okay, why?
I think Cumberland, I thinkBenedict Cumber Cumberbatch is a
fantastic actor.
Fantastic.
And he looks just like him.
I think the first movie,excellent.
SPEAKER_03 (01:06:11):
I think super dope.
SPEAKER_05 (01:06:12):
I think he was
incredible in Infinity War.
Incredible.
Fighting Thanos with the withthe gem, excellent.
I think strange wasunderutilized in Endgame.
He did some foolish dumb thingsin the Spider-Man movie.
SPEAKER_06 (01:06:28):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (01:06:29):
He was the true he
was the second lead character in
his sequel movie.
That movie was about ScarletWitch.
That was Scarlet Witch.
And even before Infinity War, hewas great for 10 minutes, Bun,
in Thor Ragnarok.
He was great for that smalltime.
(01:06:51):
We should have seen more of him.
And also, aside from DoctorStrange, rest in peace, but
T'Challa.
Black Panther.
What is happening, bruh?
T'Challa, Black Panther, bruh.
Underutilized, really?
Yes.
I was gonna say Black Panther isthe underutilized.
It should have recast because Idon't want to see Shuri.
Like, I like Shuri, but I don'tthink she should be Black
(01:07:12):
Panther.
It should be Black Panther.
She was the she becomes BlackPanther in the comics.
Yes, but that was after 40 yearsof storytelling.
SPEAKER_01 (01:07:21):
That was after 40
years.
But that's your knowledge.
They just throwing some stuffthat happened in the comics in
the child while they re-prove.
SPEAKER_06 (01:07:30):
So you really
believe.
SPEAKER_03 (01:07:34):
You really believe
somebody could have stepped into
Chadwick's shoes.
Come on, Mickey.
No.
SPEAKER_02 (01:07:40):
No, but but it looks
like Damon, Damon, uh, Damon.
Bam.
What's the difference?
No.
SPEAKER_03 (01:07:47):
No Paul.
SPEAKER_01 (01:07:48):
Yeah, I thought he
was gonna step into that.
And he will be, but it's stillgonna be the storyline that they
told because it'll probablybecome his son.
But he'll become T'Challaregardless, and that'll be the
Black Panther regardless movingforward.
I need a barf.
SPEAKER_05 (01:08:01):
Regardless of what
his history is.
He's the closest man.
I need a barf.
It's just Alba too could playhim.
Doctor Strange and Black Pantherreally should have been the
leads going into phase four,into phase seven.
It was supposed to be those twoguys.
And Spider-Man.
I think they would have takenthe MCU to higher heights until
(01:08:22):
we got to X-Men and theFantastic Four.
In my personal opinion, itshould have been those two.
I hear you.
SPEAKER_03 (01:08:29):
I can't argue that.
I can't argue that.
I don't have a lot of things.
SPEAKER_05 (01:08:33):
I would have to say
out of the MCU, hmm.
SPEAKER_03 (01:08:37):
Went Winter Soldier.
SPEAKER_05 (01:08:41):
That's actually a
good pick.
SPEAKER_03 (01:08:43):
Yeah, winter
soldier.
I'm not mad at that.
Because they they nerfed him inThunderbirds fully.
Yeah.
Like gave him the theme music.
Yeah, I have to say, I have tosay, because I'm thinking about
it and I'm just like, I think, Ithink.
Yep.
Winter Soldier.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (01:09:03):
I'm staying on that.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
That's a great one.
SPEAKER_01 (01:09:06):
So it's really, all
right.
So you first asked which endingshould have changed.
Yes.
And then so that question, Ithink, um, Secret Invasion,
because that ended so trash, andthat could have been so fucking
good, especially withintroducing Super Show.
I'm not gonna front.
I like the first episode.
The first no, the show was fire.
The show was good last year.
(01:09:28):
The last episode half of it ofSamuel Jackson walking around
hacking his lung out.
It's like, babe, bro, like whatare we doing here?
And then you introduce SuperScroll and then have somebody
beat Super Scroll.
And it's like, that's not howthis should have went, right?
So then there's that, and thenmost other underutilized.
Scrolls are wicked.
Well, Super Scroll is superwicked, right?
(01:09:50):
But then they gave him morepowers than just the Fantastic
Four, but we'll get to thatlater.
Most underutilized character, Ithink, and and and y'all
probably gonna be like, how?
But Spider-Man.
They have been doing really goodSpider-Man movies with the
Marvel Sony relationship, right?
(01:10:10):
Because Sony has let Marvelproduce the Spider-Man movies,
but they still have someoversight.
He's not doing the things hecould be doing in the MCU,
considering how connected he isto everybody in the MCU, and
he's definitely beingunderutilized.
Yeah.
(01:10:30):
I'll take that.
That's dope.
SPEAKER_03 (01:10:31):
I love these
different perspectives.
This is crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (01:10:35):
All right, Von, you
gotta leave us with a big
cliffhanger.
SPEAKER_03 (01:10:39):
Okay.
Set it up.
SPEAKER_00 (01:10:41):
Set it up.
What's gonna go?
What are we what are we about toroll into in part two of this
show?
Okay.
Let me feed you a little bit.
There's a rumor that you've beenin a comic before.
SPEAKER_03 (01:10:55):
Yes.
That is true.
I've actually been featured in aMarvel comic book variant.
Oh does anyone know what that isand what character I'm a variant
of?
SPEAKER_00 (01:11:08):
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are gonna we are gonna close on
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