Jeremy Farrar and the WHO with Johnny Vedmore

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You're listening to UnlimitedHangout. I'm your host Whitney
Webb. Last month, the WorldHealth Organization quietly
announced that it would soonappoint a new chief scientist in
2023, a man named Jeremy Farraras part of its press release on
Farrar's imminent appointmentthe who stated that Ferrara will
be focused on quote, bringingtogether the best brains in

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science and in novation fromaround the world to develop and
deliver high quality healthservices to the people who need
the most no matter who they areand where they live. However,
Farrar's history in his recentrole as head of the Wellcome
Trust suggests that Farrar'sappointment to a top post at the
WHO bodes poorly for globalhealth and is instead suggestive

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of who ambitions to become asupranational organization that
promotes the interests of bigpharma in increasingly big tech
to the detriment of publichealth. The announcement of
Farrar's appointment comes at aninteresting time for the who, as
the organization is currentlyinvolved in secret negotiations
to amend the InternationalHealth Regulations. Those

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amendments If approved by whomember states would give the WHO
unprecedented power to declare apublic health emergency and also
to dictate to member states whatmeasures they must implement as
a result of that emergency. Itwould also establish a framework
to normalize and entrenchvaccine, passports and other
biosecurity surveillancepractices, while also exempting

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these regulations fromrespecting human rights and the
fundamental freedoms of thepopulations of who member
states. With such unprecedentedpower. A man like Jeremy Farrar,
who has consistently supportedon scientific biosecurity
measures throughout the COVIDcrisis would be able to dictate
to most of the world what publichealth policies must be
implemented and when adding tothese issues is the recent

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pandemic simulation hosted bythe Johns Hopkins Center for
Health Security, whichpreviously hosted controversial
simulations, including 2000 onesdark winter, and 2019 Event 201.
This new simulation calledcatastrophic contagion focused
largely on Africa and on TheFoos. role in shaping global and
regional pandemic responses. Itof course included considerable

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involvement from Bill Gates,whose foundation wields a
significant and troubling amountof influence over World Health
Organization policy. Joining metoday to discuss this and more
as JohnnyVedmore.com andfunkymonkey.com. He has
previously written at lengthabout Jeremy Farrar and the

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Wellcome Trust and has been aconsistent critic of their
health policies, particularly asthey pertain to the COVID-19
response. So welcome back toUnlimited Hangout. How's it
going, Johnny?
Yeah, it's good. I just got outof the unlimited hangout
sweatshops after writingstories, and I don't have to
close them now. And now I'mhere, here for a good discussion

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about someone different JeremyFarrar.
All right. Well, without furtherado, let's get in to Jeremy
Farrar. So the press releaseannouncing Farrar's appointment
was issued on December 13 oflast month, probably at a time
when a lot of people are gettingready for Christmas. I know I
didn't see it because ithappened right around my

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daughter's birthday. So I wasn'tpaying much attention. So took a
independent media a while topick up on this. But it's very
significant. And I'm really gladyou're here today, John, because
out of independent media, Idon't really know of anyone
who's written more about Ferraraor the Wellcome Trust, the new.
So let's see here and how thispress release describes for our,

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they say for var is a clinicclinician scientist who before
joining the Wellcome Trust in2013 spent 17 years as director
of the Clinical Research Unit atthe hospital for tropical
diseases in Vietnam. They oddlyomit the fact that I believe his
directorship there was funded bywelcome and affiliated with the

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University of Oxford, forwhatever reason, and also
interesting is that they saythat under Dr. Farrar the
Wellcome Trust has taken anincreasingly global outlook,
focusing on funding discoveryresearch projects to transform
the understanding of life,health and well being and

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focusing on three urgentchallenges those being
infectious disease, mentalhealth, and the effects of
climate change on health. And Ithink some of this what they're
referring to here is a referenceto welcome leap, which I wrote
about in 2021. And I'm sure wecan discuss later sell Oh,

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Johnny, what exactly is the WHOleaving out about Jeremy Farrar?
Why does he matter? And what issuspect to you about his
background? If anything,
what I found really interestingabout Jeremy Farrar as I was
studying him, and I mean, everybit, anybody who knows my work
knows I tend to go back inhistory, I tend to go back

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through time and try and findthe root to everybody's like,
where they become famous, wherethey become professional, where
they become influential, wherethe power lies and who who gave
them that those opportunitiesand from very early on, Ferrara
was obviously noted as reallyimportant, and you're right

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dimension, welcome and Oxfordcombination because it was a
1994 program being run out ofOxford by welcome joint project
that saw January for enter intobecoming, we'll start off
becoming the head of theWellcome Trust. And this was at

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a time when the Wellcome Trustwas really a kind of new Lee
forged entity out of the welcomePLC. And welcome, as always been
a private company and suddenlybecame this kind of
unaccountable, not for profit,sort of look about it on the

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cover, but when you dig awayunderneath, it seemed like a
good way. There was a guy behinda very important man called
Richard Sykes who was the headof Glaxo and he was involved in
the merger of Glaxo SmithKline,Beecham, the Welcome, welcome
PLC, and they put the put themall together. And out of it came

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the Wellcome Trust is thisnonprofit entity
GlaxoSmithKline. And Beech comesas a separate company. And so
you had these, this, this newforming of the Wellcome brand.
And it's really interesting,because if you go back
beforehand, just beforehand,they're welcome, are very
involved in the HIV medication,a lot of other things

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easy too. So maybe we shouldtalk about that a little bit.
Because I think that's prettyrelevant to why the Wellcome
Trust is not the medicalresearch, nonprofit, you know,
that's objective and blah, blah,blah. I mean, it's often treated
in very glowing terms. But asyou as you noted, it's an
outgrowth of what was previouslywelcome PLC. And before that, I

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believe was Burroughs welcome.And they were the entity, the
company that produced AZT forwhich was an early HIV
treatment, which essentiallykilled people.
Yeah, they seem to be morereckless with advertising. Azt
over in America, fruit burrows,welcome, which was their

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American arm, they seemed to bemore reckless. And in Britain,
they were much more careful. Butit was Roy Anderson, and Level
One of well, he was WellcomeTrust direct in the early 90s.
Before he joined the WellcomeTrust, he was, he was very, all
of the guys who revolve aroundfor very shady figures. They've

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got lots of differentattachments to different groups
and different societies that arereally, I think, important to
unraveling this massive puzzle.And it was a very small group at
the time of the early 90s. Thathelped form this new, you know,
because the AZT had been suchbad publicity. And, of course,

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it was going to be loads ofcourt cases, fought against
welcome if it stayed in itsform, that it was in at that
time. And so I think that's whyit was like, rich sites come in
to dismantle it, and change whatwhat what each of these
companies were doing. He wasbrought in to do that. Richard

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Sykes is a very interesting manwho I'll talk about later, but I
would, I would describe him asprobably the man who recruited
and mentored people like RoyAnderson, Farrar, Neil Ferguson
and the famous people who arethe people who will be bought
the thing, mainly on the Britishside. Now, a lot of Americans
when they started a lot ofAmerican press, and of course,

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I'm writing for unlimitedHangout, and watching a lot of
the time what the American mediaare saying, and a lot of the
independent American media wantsto concentrate on Fauci and
other people who are involved inthe American side of the
process, but when you actuallysee like the BuzzFeed emails

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that got released, you discoverthat Jeremy Farrar was above the
American the you know, JeremyFarrar is above Have Fauci in
the chain of command. And thisis really important. They don't
people don't understand why. Andit's because Britain is used as
this tool. It's like a littlespecial secret of tool the

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Americans have on the side whilethe Americans are producing lots
of policies that will dystopianin nature, and will trap you
into medical sort oforganizations and institutions
that will trap you into yournation into doing things a

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certain way. Well, a lot of theactual controls don't follow the
implementation. A lot of thatcomes from Britain. So Richard
Sykes, the man who kind ofinspired these guys were the guy
was the guy who oversaw theentire rollout of the vaccines
in the UK, when the COVIDvaccines come out. Jeremy
Farrar,
I don't mean to interrupt you.But I think it might be helpful

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to get into a lot of the stuffthat's more recent. In a little
bit, I think it's probably goodfirst, before we get too far
away from it, to discussFerraris background,
specifically, you know, the typeof family he was born into, and
what his history was before hesort of teamed up with this
Wellcome Trust, and it's more,you know, it's broader network.

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Yeah. What can you tell me aboutearlier Farrar and some of his
experience, for example, at thisVietnam hospital and things, you
know, a little bit before hejoined the Wellcome Trust. Yeah,
well,
that was that was him alreadykind of joining the Wellcome
Trust, because in 1994, thisprogram is being run out of
Oxford. And that's a he's justgraduating from Oxford there.

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He's just done his master's atOxford, and Edward C. Holmes,
who's Of course, the man who'sdown for a Nobel Prize alongside
the Chinese scientists for doingthe first transcription for for
right now the firsttranscription of Cypress Cove to
genetic sequence. He was runningthis program out of Oxford

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welcome, Edward C. Holmes wasrunning the program and asked
Jeremy Farrar to be part of theproject along came Jeremy for
and he instantly says, you know,he was by by just I went across
to Ho Chi Minh to just do alittle bit of research and I
ended up staying there 18 years.So so he flew that time. From

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1994 onwards, Jeremy Farrar hasbeen writing many papers doing a
lot of research. And if youactually read a lot of that
research, it relies on theinfrastructure of information
that we have at the moment. Bythat I mean, PCR tests, we
understand a little bit abouthow cycle thresholds work and

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the higher the fire cyclethresholds on a PCR test, the
more the more likely you are toget a positive or a false
positive result. Well, a lot ofgemmy for hours work seems to
tests, test drugs out on highcycle thresholds. A lot of it
relies on the narratives thatwere created around COVID. And

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he's traveled all the way aroundall know when he was he was born
into an really interestingfamily. His father had been
caught as a one of the manysoldiers in France during World
War Two and had been sent to acamp a prisoner of war camp. And
he had remained in a prisoner ofwar camp the entire time. And he

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had met his mother, you metJeremy for his mother. When he
had got back from beingreleased. After marching for
days and days, they finally gotpicked up by the British sent
back, they got sent to Scotland.And he was driven down to the
Ministry of Defence to bedebriefed by his future wife, so

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he would meet his wife, who wasthe actual driver. I mean, a lot
of women did a lot of thosesorts of passes, worked in the
factory, kept home firesburning, you know, all of that
sort of stuff. And that's wherethey met. And it is it's an
interesting link that it comesas he goes into the Ministry of
Defense to give informationabout his time in captivity,

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because after that, he becomeswhat Jeremy Farrar later calls,
like equals his family itinerantin nature. So he says that they
traveled around a lot. So theylived everywhere. Cyprus, they
lived in Libya. They lived fareast. I mean, Farrar was born in
Singapore, and he is theyoungest of I think there was

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six children that Eric Farrarand his wife had, including
Jeremy and there's there's a lotI mean, there's a you can go
even further back in history.I'm currently looking at certain
people who may be members of hisfamily who have identical lives
to watch me for our house, butback in Victorian pounds, so I

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you know, There's the I believethat it's the family history
that's really interest basedfamily, his father, the
traveling around, it seems veryemblematic as someone who is at
least working with the statewith the British in some way. I
haven't been able to find fullproof of that yet. But you can

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see by people like JeremyFarrar, his direction has been
one where he's been allowed intotop schools. He's progressed in
his career to levels that no oneelse can possibly have. And a
lot of us when we do ourresearch into these famous and
big players is really, reallyimportant people will they all

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tend to have links, familylinks, that are really
important. And Jeremy Farrar,when he was recruited in 1984,
he instantly went across to anarea of the world where he could
do tests and experiments that hewouldn't be able to necessarily
do in the West. And that'sanother point that is often

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missed out a lot of the time,the drugs by people like welcome
in the past, and many of thepharmaceutical companies sorry,
many of these entities, they gettested on in poor on poor Asian
Africa. Yeah. And that's whereyou seen, that's where you You

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saw him spend a lot of his timeand a lot of his papers are
written around. And some of theearly I mean, when you get on to
the time when he's looking foravian flu, in the noughties.
Right,
so let's let's, let's waitthere. Wait for a second,
because I wanted to sort ofbefore you get into that, I just
wanted to mention that not onlydo you have this avian flu thing

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that you just touched on, but asyou've previously written about
Farrar, you know, that he wasessentially sent by Oxford,
which is again, running thehospital that he's, you know,
ostensibly a director app, atthis period of time, they're
sending him around the world andspecifically study epidemics or
pandemics as they're happeningin real time. Yeah, so can you

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go into some of that history,including the avian flu and some
of the others?
Well, there's some reallyinteresting, I mean, a lot of
the other people when you followa lot of the other people too,
they have this similar, they getpicked up and they get given
their place within this puzzlethey get given the job and role.
So these people are selectingthe highest candidates. Jeremy

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Farrar is obviously seen as avery successful candidate for
the future. And what he does isstudy lots of lots of different
really complicated illnesses,and potential vaccines. It was
from 1996 until 2013. ThatFarrar is like recorded as being

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the director of what's calledthe Oxford University Clinical
Research Unit in Ho Chi MinhCity. So it's Oxford partnering,
partnering with the WellcomeTrust to set up a research
facility in Ho Chi Minh City.And there's a lot of, you know,
the actual by the time we getword gets around 2009, and bird

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flu. And you've got, I mentionedlike an article that was
published in a RockefellerRockefeller University Press
Journal of Experimental medicinein 2009. So obviously, there's
nice people keeping an eye onwhat January for us doing, and
it's a quote that is titled,Jeremy Farrar when disaster

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strikes and Ferrara talks aboutthe finding of a bird of a bird
flu of an avian flu. And it's areally interesting like
narrative he sets because hesets this narrative with who
people turned up the WorldHealth Organization people and
they tested this kid and andthey said, No, they don't have

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SARS, or even influenza. They'vejust got a cold and they left.
But Jeremy Farrar is not happywith that he and professor here
we go. And they they test outgirl again, and they do some
more explorations. And theydiscover this is a rare bird flu
and they need to start some formof epidemic response or pandemic

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response to this form ofinfluenza A, that they find in
this guy, this belief, they givethis backstory, the girl found a
dead duck that she liked, and soshe buried it in the garden, but
her brother decided to bury itsomewhere else. And then she dug
it up again and buried itsomewhere else. And that's how

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she got it. And but it seemedlike the experts came in did the
tests and when you actually lookat what the local government
health boards say, around time,cuz this happens in somewhere in
Asia And they said, No, we don'tthink there was anything there.
But they convinced that really,even the who said there was

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nothing there. But suddenlyJeremy Farrar finds things, you
know, he's that type of person.And then he sets a narrative.
And that narrative goes on andeverybody gets behind
it right. In that particularoccasion, that narrative set by
Farrar, but rejected by the whowas parented extensively by the
George W. Bush administration inthe United States, which

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fearmonger excessively about itsaid millions were going to die.
And that the only if I recall,the, the countermeasure the
medical countermeasure theyinvested in as a result of that
fear mongering was Tamiflu,which is made by Gilead, a
pharmaceutical company that wasvery much tied up with still at
the time, the finances of DonaldRumsfeld, who before being

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Secretary of Defense, in theBush administration had been the
top executive at Gilead, and wasstill invested in that company.
And so he made like, an insaneamount of money. And then of
course, it turns out that all ofthat fear mongering, which I
guess, in this instance seems tohave started with Farrar ended
up to be inaccurate, right. Andyou know, it's sort of

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collapsed. And no one reallyremembers the bird flu scares
2004 2005 anymore, except forthose of us that, you know, in
the past three years, we've sortof been looking back at some of
the history like I know I didwhen I was looking at the Dark
Winter exercise, the anthrax andstuff, the bird flu was sort of
a subsequent attempt at that bysimilar actors involved with a
lot of this anthrax stuff thatended up going awry. And it's

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interesting to see Farrar there,but at that time, the who was
saying was disagreeing with him.But now Farrar is set to be the
top guy, top scientist at thewho, right. And it seems like
sometime between 2004 2005 Whenthat happened, and the COVID
crisis Farrar's importance tothe World Health Organization

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changed a lot. And again, thisis all absent from the whose
press release about Farrardoesn't mention that he had this
top role at the who, forCOVID-19. Oddly enough, anyway,
you can
see you can see through Farrar'sprogression, though, and the way
he wrote his papers that he wasvery politically minded in the

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world of international medicalresponse, very politically
minded. So, I mean, 2014 and2000 I can which one, Niall
Ferguson said that 200 millionpeople would die and it was like
in the 1000s of people would dieactually died. But these guys

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use this sort of fear mongeringto get more work in a sense. So
for our from 2009, he and thatfinding the girl with a duck and
Abigail saying she was fine. Hewas sent around by Oxford to
various locations. So he sent tolook at the outbreak of MERS. Of

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course, he's central to theEbola outbreak in 2014. And
avian flu in 2014. To it'sreally interesting to see how he
became like the central figurebeing lifted up. I think some of
these guys are just like thatthey are really important to the

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emblematic to the interviews arepolitical and politically minded
and suit the prevailingnarrative of people,
organizations like the who, andother health, big health
organizations who want peoplelike this, but is it a case that

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they encourage the training ofpeople to be like this and then
promote the people to be likethis? Or is it that F errara Is
this person a day that has justcome out of nowhere because I
just don't believe that I reallythink there's a bigger history

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to Jeremy Farrar and he isimportant, as you say, the
BuzzFeed emails, I mean, theywere talking about him being
responsible for everything fromfinancing to advising to writing
up and then they write theproximal origin of SARS cov.

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He's the main guy organizingwithin 10 days, the production
of a paper that falsified theroot of a virus that has caused
So much devastation on economieson people's lives
has since been debunked. Andthis was arguing that it was a

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zoonotic origin.
They even wrote a second paperthough they even wrote a second
paper where they were like, Oh,we were writing this one because
everybody's debunked the otherone. Oh, we come to the same
conclusions again. And what'swhat's completely amazing about
that, is that if you actuallyhear what what was being said,

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at the time, like what whatJeremy Farrar was and others
were doing during those periods.Now, let me let me just quote,
I've opened up a, it's a linefrom January Ferraro's book that
he published, or a part fromJanuary for his book that he

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published during the COVIDpandemic. And he says, By the
second week of January, I wasbeginning this January 2020, I
was beginning to realize thescale of what was happening. In
those weeks, I became exhaustedand scared. I felt as if I was
living a different person'slife. During that period, I
would do things I've never donebefore acquire a burner phone,

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hello, clandestine meetings,keep difficult secrets. In the
last week of January 2020, I sawemail chatter from scientists in
the US suggesting the viruslooked almost engineered to
infect human cells. These werecredible scientists proposing an
incredible and terrifyingpossibility of either accidental
leak from a laboratory ordeliberate release. Now, we

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already we already know thatthis was a release, but this
idea that that it wasincredible, that oh, this is
impossible. And then theycreated this. He seen this
happened in January 2020. Andthen he created all of the hoo
ha, he created all of the fakepandemic paper. He covered it

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up. And then he admitted that hecovered it up in that one part
of his book. So I it seems likeJeremy Farrar thinks he's
completely untouchable. Or he'scompletely and utterly dumb to a
level that I can't evenunderstand. You know, I can, I
can understand how we can seehow that the idea that

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clandestine methods, burnerphones and all of this how that
people can't won't say, whatwere you doing? Why were you
being so secretive? Why were youthis is a public health mapper,
but it seems like his email
so heavily redacted.Specifically, his input relative
to those of other people, justvery bizarre. So thanks for

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that. One thing that I wanted totalk about briefly that you
brought up is the Ebolasituation, and 24, from 2014 to
2015, in West Africa. So Iactually came across an article
I found very interesting when Iwas writing about the developers
of the AstraZeneca vaccine.Again, they're based at Oxford

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University. And and I found alot of very odd parallels of
what happened with COVID-19vaccine rollout in the attempt
attempted vaccine rollout herein 2014. And of course, the
experimental vaccine, in thecase of Ebola was
GlaxoSmithKline, which as youmentioned earlier, has a very

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close relationship with theWellcome Trust. And the Wellcome
Trust is, I believe, very muchresponsible for leading a
significant portion of theinternational response to this
Ebola crisis during this periodof time. And I just want to read
some quotes here from thisarticle that was published about

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the crisis while it was ongoingby The Guardian, the UK
newspaper, and it just sounds somuch like what we ended up
hearing during the COVID crisis.I mean, it's almost analogous.
So anyway, it's it reads humantrials of GlaxoSmithKline
experimental vaccine, whichBritain's largest
pharmaceuticals company isdeveloping with the US NIH, are

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to be fast tracked with fundingfrom an international
consortium. Vaccines normallytake 10 years to develop, but
GlaxoSmithKline said it hopes tofinish the first phase of trials
by the end of 2014. Forreference, this was published in
August 2014. It will startmaking up to 10,000 doses of the
vaccine at the same time as theinitial clinical trials so that

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if they prove successful SOC canbe made available immediately to
the World Health Organization.And then goes on to say, if
regulatory approvals are grantedthe UK research teams could
start vaccinating healthyvolunteers for mid September. So
this is about a month after thisarticle is published. And in the
US, the NIH could start phaseone trials which is tested on

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humans. As soon as next weekafter receiving the green light
from the FDA. The vaccine hasalready shown promising results
blah, blah, blah, at 2.8 millionpound grant from the Wellcome
Trust will fund safety tests bya team led by Professor Adrian
Hill, director of the JennerInstitute at the University of
Oxford with Adriene. Hill, beingthe man who produced along with

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a Sara Gilbert, who I think iswas a student at one point,
produced the Oxford AstraZenecavaccine, which of course, has
been quite controversial takenoff the market in numerous
countries, and has been listedas the cause of death on several
death certificates in the UKalone. And he previously spoke

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at the Galton Institute, hismentor was a member of the
Eagleton Institute, which until1989, was the British eugenics
society. And he's a hill is verymuch associated with the
Wellcome Trust. What I findinteresting about this is that
when we had the COVID-19 vaccinerollout, this same narrative was
rolled out again about speedingup the vaccines and not using

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the normal 10 year process, butit was framed like this had
never happened before. But infact, it had happened before
about seven, six years prior.And central in this was
GlaxoSmithKline, and theWellcome Trust, and the National
Institutes of Health, severalplayers who were obviously as
we've just talked about,instrumental in the COVID
response. You have any thoughtsabout that?

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Yeah, yeah, I mean, PatrickVallance did a lot of the public
face of a response in the UK.And he he was seen as kind of
disconnected, because, you know,GlaxoSmithKline aren't
necessarily making a vaccine. Soyou don't need it. They're kind
of impartial. They've made thisbig, pharmaceutical giant,

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that's really you know, wouldhappily break the law overnight.
This this impartial kind figure.But if you if you criticize him,
especially on Twitter, and thelike, you'll find yourself
censored pretty quickly. I I'veexperienced that. The longest
time I've had on Twitter isfirst saying something about
Patrick parents. Now, there's alot when you talk because you

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started talking about Ebola. Andthere's a lot of crossover
between these characters in theUK. And the people who were
working on Ebola that wereAmerican. So like Pardis,
Sabeti, who worked as she gotlinks with Farrar with Edward
Holmes, with other people likeDebbie Sridhar and Andrew Rambo.

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They're both from EdinburghUniversity, if I remember
correctly, and they were allquite heavily involved in the
Ebola crisis, I think that was areally important moment, when a
lot of the the big world orderof medicine was starting to be
created to a level that theywill be able to enact what

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happened during COVID-19, youknow, they didn't have the power
before. From all of my research,what I saw is, every time they
tried to spark some sort ofpandemic here, or some sort of
pandemic, there's some fearmongering that they would, they
would hit a brick wall everytime with people going, Yeah,
whatever, whatever, then peoplewere old enough to remember, bad

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bad vaccines of the past and,and all of the things of the
past and they're not, they'renot going to get involved in
doing any of this. So theythey've tried to push these
ideas of vaccines out, and it'snever been successful. But now
people are really been primedfor this. It's almost like oh,
we we've got to keep introducingthese new things, all of the
time that everybody's going totake to get people used to the

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idea of taking stuff. That'ssimply what it is. It's very
much like and when I talkedabout pardons for Beth use a
really interesting figure. Sheshe was she studied both Harvard
and Oxford, two places where Iended up a lot in my research
when looking into this newworld. She's a Rhodes Scholar as

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well, you know, she's right upthe cream of the crop. She's got
links with Elon Musk, and EricLander. These people are the
trans humanists. These peopleare the people who are trying to
create the agenda. That meansthat you're going to have to
keep having your body pumpedfull of something until that's
something is no longer medicine.It's something else and then

(34:14):
something else and then you wereprying to say Okay, the next
one, we got this ill health soit a bit a bit of ill health or
this fear of a virus. Now Ebolais perfect for for making people
afraid. Because Ebola, thepeople's idea of Ebola is spread
terribly. Everybody dies, you'rebleeding out your eyes and all
your orifices. You know, theyreally scared and that's why I

(34:36):
think they all came togetheraround that and really started
to work on plants of how to makeother illnesses seem as scary as
Ebola. Because Ebola had thatspecial it was like, Yeah, well,
you had you had Anthony Faucisaying stuff like, well, we
can't we haven't had a lot ofaccess with a universal flu
vaccine or any of the stuffbecause people aren't scared
enough of the flu or haverespiratory illnesses or

(34:59):
seasonal respiratory illnesses,and basically implied that in
order to ensure the success ofthose type of vaccination
programs, which for the past twodecades had been heavily funded
by, you know, the Bill andMelinda Gates Foundation and
related organizations.Essentially, what needed to
happen is that people needed tobecome afraid of those diseases.
In order to spur Vaxvaccination,

(35:20):
the only way you can make peopleafraid is is either you release
a virus from the lab where yousee people die. Okay, that's one
way you make people afraid, oryou lie to them. You know, in
this in this particular, when itcomes down to viruses, either
one of two ways, very rarely isone in 100 years, should we get

(35:40):
something that's probably apandemic, and that's based on
maps that, well, we've had aload since humans have started
getting the function researchand started testing on their
people and started releasingviruses. So we've had loads of
you know, we've had,
and this is something that USmilitary's done the Porton down
in the UK has done. You know,it's been a very extensive but

(36:04):
largely unseen series ofoperations over the past century
or so, regarding bio weaponry,and its use on unsuspecting
civilians, I mean, there's justan insane amount of examples of
that happening, that a lot ofpeople don't know very much
about. And it's probably notsurprising that they don't at
this point, considering, youknow, how people have behaved

(36:26):
over the past several years. Soanyway, you mentioned a lot
about how this seems to beleading to transhumanism and all
of that. So maybe now's a goodtime to get into something that
Jeremy Farrar created asapparently as a response to
COVID. So remember, he's, as Imentioned earlier, the World

(36:47):
Health Organization, the Syriansaying that Jeremy Farrar is
essentially one of their is thetop guy for them, as it relates
to the COVID 19 outbreak,really, as it relates to the
science of the outbreak and thefinancing of the response. And
what he does through welcome. Asyou know, he's director of the
Wellcome Trust at this point,his part of the response at

(37:09):
Wellcome Trust is to createwelcome leap. Welcome leap he
ostensibly envisioned with it,create would launch quote,
unconventional projects fundedat scale. And basically, it was
a at least the way I wrote aboutit, it was an obvious attempt to

(37:31):
create a global version ofDARPA. Why do I say it was DARPA
because he put former DARPAdirectors in charge of it. And
the people specifically the ladywho put in charge of it is
Regina Dugan, who was directorof DARPA and green lighted
DARPA's funding of the mRNAinjections that have since

(37:52):
become more or less normalizedover the COVID-19 crisis. And
then, after she left to DARPA,she went to Google and
subsequently to Facebook whereshe set up DARPA equivalent
DARPA style organizations forboth of those companies. And
then she's headhunted fromFacebook to run welcome leap

(38:12):
where she essentially iscreating a DARPA equivalent for
the Wellcome Trust. Yeah, yeah,
I'm Jay Flatley as well, whichis, I mean, he was
a gene sequencing guy. So prettymuch,
he's really just flatly isreally important to this,
because he's a head of alumina,and aluminum will make nearly
every single machine nearlyevery single machine that runs

(38:36):
PCR tests, that
genomic sequences, PCR tests are
massively important to if youwanted to falsify results, you
need to be the person who keepsthe results. That's it.
Sure, but in addition to that,Jay flatly has an obsession,

(38:58):
essentially, with the geneticsequencing you from birth to
death, and having genomicsequencing be mandatory
throughout various stages oflife. And what what most people
in this world these people weretalking about, and how they
refer to it as precisionmedicine, which is really more

(39:19):
like Gene specific medicine. Andyeah, he was, for example,
example speaking at a WorldEconomic Forum panel, which
interestingly enough, he wasspeaking out alongside Matt
Hancock, who was then UK healthsecretary, and he was promoting
all the the ideas of normalizingthe genomic sequencing of babies

(39:39):
and children trying to he claimsthis was about shifting
healthcare system from reactiveto preventative. But you know,
if for people familiar with mywork, there is this huge theme
of the national security state,the military and the
intelligence community's tryingto basically create it, use the

(39:59):
precrime approach approach, butapply it to medicine. So, you
know, for people that areinterested in my work on that
you can look through some of mypast interviews related to
biosecurity and other things.But it's just very,
very wide. It's very tellingthat it was 2016, I think or
2017 were like flatly, hiscompany said that they're going

(40:22):
to embark on an aggressive fiveyear plan, you know, that
aggressive five year plan, thisis where we're picking up speed
now to bring genomic out of theresearch labs and into doctors
offices. And I think this isthis is one of the signs that we
are changing. Once upon a timewe use a company like Illumina

(40:42):
to check all of these things,because they're too complicated
for a normal everyday doctor todo. But now what they want you
to do, what they want doctors tobe in eventually, is to have
some form of like a CRISPR,technology, style technology
where they can do they canpermit a plate and play around
with people's genetics safely inthe doctor's office, or come for
a visit. Okay, let's play aroundwith you. And your genetics. And

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this is a, this is a step inwhat we're seeing is a step
towards a much more futuristicidea, and a really hard to grasp
idea of what transhumanism lookslike,
right? Well, transhumanism, asI've noted a lot in my work is
essentially the new eugenics. Sowhat combines this idea of of
putting machines in your bodyand sort of what we're gonna do,

(41:25):
again, head of welcome leaprefers to is fixing what she
calls the mismatch between humanthe human body and machines. And
then you have this, the genesequencing aspect of it, which
is being framed as medicinethrough things like CRISPR and
mRNA injections and DNAinjections and all of this
stuff. So we changed our name tothe golden Institute to honor

(42:13):
Francis Galton, the guy thatinvented eugenics. And so now
we're going to rebrand again,and call it a Delphi. But a
Delphi is the name of theneighborhood where the British
eugenics society used to meet soyou know, I mean, it's like
they're running out of things tolike, secretly, still agree with
the stuff. But
you can see that this wholemedical dictatorship that we've

(42:33):
got over the world, it's alllinked, it's all clubs,
societies, groups. And, youknow, these are clubs, which are
very similar to things we wouldhave seen in the old day, olden
days, you know, you're relatedto so and so. So you get in this

(42:55):
club, and this club rules,everything. You know, we're
seeing the the same patterns.And this is one of the things
that I discover from going inhistory so much with my my work
going through history, is thatwhen I was talking about, you
know, doctors will eventuallyhave a CRISPR technology while
the doctor's office won'tchange, it'll still be the same

(43:16):
old, boring looking doctor'soffice. But slowly, the
technology will change, and itwill be exponentially changing.
Roughly less our technologygoes, it kind of goes
exponential, and goes up, and upand up. And at the same time,
the walls don't change, thepeople don't change what the
people want doesn't change, orhow the people feel doesn't
change. All they're doing thistesting on you with new new toys

(43:38):
that they've got. And this iswhat all of these guys are
doing. They're in their clubs,they'll create their clubs and
societies. And they want to testout all their new gadgets and
gizmos on these people who donot matter to them. And that's
where we got to understand whenwe understand those people don't
matter. We don't matter thosepeople, then maybe majority of

(44:00):
people on Earth can decide thatthese people don't matter to us,
and we can stop listening tothem. Stop giving them the
ability to get away with withthings scot free. They do it all
of the time. They can do whatthey like and they don't have
accountability. And that is whatJeremy Farrar has been created
into Jeremy Farrar and theWellcome Trust has been created

(44:21):
into supposedly nonprofit entitythat's outside government,
outside business, outsideeducation. Just it just exists
on the side and brings peopletogether well actually brings
companies together actually. Itcovers up massive fake. Like it
over exaggerates pandemics overexaggerate everything to get

(44:47):
these companies andpharmaceutical big
pharmaceutical brands, get themmore business. That's what it's
all about. It's all guys inclubs, using their technologies
together to try and take overWere there parts of the world,
which in this case is medicine.
All right, so I want to get alittle more into welcome like
really bit because we didn'treally get to discuss what it

(45:11):
views as science worth fundingand what it sees as quote,
unquote, innovation. And this isrelevant because going back to
the food press release aboutFarrar becoming Chief Scientist,
it says, Dr. Farrar will overseethe science division bringing
together the best brains inscience and innovation from
around the world deliver anddevelop high quality health

(45:32):
services. So what is Ferrarathink of when he thinks of
innovation in science, while Iwould wager that his the
projects that welcome leap arean example of that. So I
mentioned earlier, we're goingto do again, right is in charge
of this with her former deputyat DARPA, Ken Gabriel, I think
his name is and do you canpreviously, when she was at

(45:53):
Google and Facebook, she wasmaking things like brain machine
interfaces, a digital tattoowhere your that will be on your
body and unlock your smartphone,a pill that turns you into your
own authentication, token, smartclothing, augmented reality
stuff. I mean, this is the stuffthat she's big on. And then her

(46:16):
deputy Ken Gabriel, is one ofthe leading DARPA guys for micro
electrical mechanical systemsresearch, which is directly
related to a lot of the stuffthat do again, is has been
interested in during her time atDARPA, and after that time, as
well. And I just want to get alittle bit into some of the

(46:37):
programs that welcome leapfunds. So I previously wrote
about this again in June 2021.Not that long after it was
created. And I think I was thefirst person to report on
welcome leak, because no one hasreally paid very much attention
to the Wellcome Trust over thepast three years. And I really
hope with this appointment ofFerrara that begins to change.

(46:58):
And that changes very quickly,so people can realize what we're
dealing with here. So the firstprogram I wrote about that
welcome leak was involved withis abbreviated as hoped standing
for human organs, physiology andengineering. It's basically
about growing organs andgrowing, living things, growing
animals, all sorts of stuff. Andusing that for a whole variety

(47:21):
of purposes, including toreplace existing clinical
trials. So instead of doing, forexample, safety trials on on
animals, or human beings, thesepeople would grow organs, and
then just test it on the organand assume that's how a human
body would respond to it, whichis obviously a way to cut
corners. But we've definitelyseen a lot of that over the past

(47:42):
three years.
They create corners, they createtheir own corners, so they don't
have to cut them.
Yeah, I guess. So. Anotherprogram was called delta tissue,
which was about predictingchanges in states of human
tissues. And as again, a thingabout precision medicine
promoting the use of DNA and RNAgene therapies.

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And they make it soundwonderful. They call a tissue
Time Machine.
Yeah, they, they obviously hadPR people work on it. But it's
all about getting like AI topredict disease in humans,
again, this sort of pre crimeapproach to disease and health,
right. So if you can be like,Well, we think you're gonna
predict a crime based on yoursocial media history, sometime

(48:27):
in the next five to 10 years,and we should send you to
prison. Now, you know, you haveto trust the algorithm a lot,
especially when the algorithmslike well, you'll probably
develop cancer, you don't havecancer now, but you'll probably
develop it. So you should do allthis crazy invasive stuff and
inject yourself with all of thiscrazy goo. And whatever. It's
the same. Well, I mean,mentality there.
The problem is, with all ofthis, all of this will succeed

(48:53):
if they continue to aim at theyoung, you know, well, let
me let me get there becausethere's two more programs. Well,
three, I want to just do a quickoverview of before we discuss so
one of the other ones is calledmultichannel site site being
short for psychology thereobviously. And this focus is to
develop non invasive technologyto directly interrogate the

(49:15):
human brain state this can be anon invasive spinal tap
equivalent, not sure how you dothat Wow. Behavioral or
biomarker probes of neuralplasticity, single session
neural monitoring capabilities.So basically, you can read
between the lines there and seewhat this stuff is about. A lot
of it is aimed at developingwearables basically to read read

(49:38):
your mind for lack of a betterterm but also specifically
manipulate what they call thehypothalamic pituitary adrenal
axis. So you know a part of theendocrine system. So it this
particular system or access andthe body is a negative and
positive feedback system but itregulates stress reactions,
immunity and also quite notablyfertility in the human body,

(50:03):
worth pointing out,specifically, if you're familiar
with some of our past work onWellcome Trust and eugenics
stuff, and then the mostdisturbing programs are focused
on little kids and babies. Sothe most disturbing welcome LEAD
program, to me, it's called thefirst 1000 days promoting
healthy brain networks. Andessentially what this is about

(50:26):
per them are creating objective,scalable ways to assess a
child's cognitive health bymonitoring the brain development
and function of infants andtoddlers, allowing practitioners
to risk stratify children andpredict responses to
intervention and developingbrains. So basically, they want

(50:47):
to develop a model for how abrain should ideally look and
then they want to decide whatchildren don't fit that model,
and then intervene to makechildren's brains look like that
model, right? This is verymessed up this whole idea of
like pruning children's brainsto make them all cognitively

(51:07):
equivalents of each other as away of what they say, you know,
equalizing the playing field,but really, you could I think
it's pretty communism. Well, Ithink you're wrong. Right. Okay.
Well, I think you can see howthis could be misused, right.
And basically, the way it aimsto accomplish this is that it
wants children to be exposed tofrom the age I think of it's

(51:28):
either three or six months ofage.
I know it's free. It's free andunder, is what they say. Okay,
yeah, but it's stuff likeexposing your child to wearable
sensors, wearable, EEG, eyetracking technology. I mean,
these are for babies. Yeah, I'mterrible sensors, have them

(51:51):
under constant surveillance.
Data, if you want constant data,which is scientific, their
scientific modeling relies onconstant massive data, such a
large amount of data, and theytracking their eyes are tracking
kids eyes. I mean, what what arethey doing that for? Well,
they'll be tracking everything,they'll be tracking their

(52:11):
temperature, they'll be trackingmore than talking about
their goal here, becauseremember this with Ferraris,
chief scientist at the who, andif they get these powers that
they want the food that we'regoing to talk about in a little
bit, this could be this couldbecome a, you know, become
reality. A The main goal of thisprogram before 2030 is to have

(52:34):
80% of children, you know,exposed to this technology in
this screening process thatinvolves wearables, and all of
this stuff, like 2030 80% ofkids. Now, the guy that created
the organization doing this isthe guy that's going to be the
chief scientist of the who andgonna decide
direction of policy all aroundbecause they can get the nations

(52:58):
or every nation around to signup to doing this, right wherever
they want it whether the peoplewant it or not, this is
democracy out the window.
Right. And what's particularlydisturbing to me also, is that
after I wrote that article, Ididn't think these people could
get any sicker. But not thatlong after I published that
article, they announced a newprogram called in utero, where

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they essentially are applyingthe same methodology and have
the same goals. But instead ofapplying it to infants and
children under three years old,they are applying it to fetuses.
The program, as you mightexpect, is called in utero
measurement and modeling duringgestational development. And
it's essentially, you know,mobile sensing technologies and

(53:45):
you know, surveilling how yourbaby's doing now, are they
looking after the health ofchildren and babies? Or are they
trying to understand how tocreate children and babies
because the next the next stageof the transhuman,
of trying to grow them
and to make pregnancy licenses athing? Well, if

(54:05):
you if you look at this first1000 days program at welcome
leap, what they want to do, likeI mentioned earlier is create a
model of the ideal child's brainand then have interventions
developed that bring as manychildren as possible in line

(54:27):
with that model. It's ahomogenization aren't
believable, unbelievable ideahow I can I know it's mind
boggling. One of the mostimportant and amazing things
about having kids is watchingthem develop into this person
themselves, and not influencingthat in any negative way trying

(54:48):
to be positivity. You're handingover again your child's health,
complete health and, andeveryday function over to
someone who does not Hear abouthumans who proved who have
proven over and over again, theyjust don't care about humans.
Yet people seem, I believe lotsof people will have their
children over.

(55:09):
Well, here's the thing as headof the world as the chief
scientist at the who, and ifthese powers that were again,
we're going to talk about soonare implemented. Someone like
Jeremy Farrar, who sees thistype of stuff as innovation that
sees pruning child's brains bymachine intelligence and having
AI shape, that kind of stuff forfuture generations. He sees that

(55:32):
as innovation, this is going tobe the guy that setting policy
at the who, and if theseamendments were passed, the who
will have teeth, ie it will haveincreased sovereignty, while
Nation members or member statesof the WHO nation states have
reduced sovereignty in thesematters. You are basically
giving Jeremy Farrar a crazy mana blank check to dictate what

(55:54):
you do not just with your ownbody, but what happens to your
children's bodies. So this isvery significant stuff. And this
is why I think this podcasttoday is really important
because, I mean, most peoplethink of Jeremy Farrar like you
were we were reading before thispodcast in an article by I think
the brownstone Institute. Theyjust refer and criticize Farrar

(56:17):
as a lockdown advocate. Yeah,yeah. And a lot more than that.
Yeah, he did everything. I mean,he, he Yeah, he advised
lockdowns, He also advised allof the financing and the
response and he was the centralfigure. Fauci witty with the
American and British peopledealing is supposed to be at the
top, we're told to go and reportto her. This is the guy who's

(56:41):
doing every ease. He's also thesame guy who in 2020, is saying
that China is setting the newstandard for outbreak response
and deserves all our facts. Andthey are the model for the
future. This is this is a guywho people really, he what I
find amazing about Ferraris ishubris, it seems to him he knows

(57:02):
that anybody who knows is, youknow, knows anything about
medicine, knows what he's doing.Everybody knows, who knows. And
all of the rest of the peopleare gonna get injected. And he's
got a little smile on his face,a little Dupas delight, a little
grin, because he knows what he'sdoing. And every time I read an
article, and they listen to hisquote, he seems like he's

(57:24):
detached from the reality ofwhere he is. And when when I
read out that piece earlier,where he talks about all these
things I've never done before. Idon't believe that. I just think
that yeah, they had to do that,because everybody was watching
them all of a sudden, I thinkthat normally, they're acting in
these ways, withoutaccountability, and doing things

(57:46):
underhand and dealing withthings behind the scenes, and no
one's watching. So they don'thave to have burner phones, and
they don't have to haveclandestine meetings, their
meetings in normal meetings tous would be clandestine, if we
looked at them. And these arethe people who are in charge
your children's have want to putthings because this like, some
of the technology they'retalking about is pumping things

(58:07):
into your body, your child'sbody, and your baby's body that
will go around all of their bodyand map out the insides so they
can read the insights what theylook like to homogenize your
child. This is
a firm that has an effort toalso the same technology will be
used to cognitively augment yourchild. But remember that these

(58:29):
are DARPA people that aredeveloping this. And DARPA
people also frame a lot of theirtranshumanist endeavors framed
as healthcare in similar terms.So this is this could be used to
augment people. But if you alsoread enough of crap, DARPA,
people have said over the years,as I have and some other people
have, as well, you will knowthat they have also said that

(58:49):
really, all of thesetechnologies are dual use,
anything that can augment canalso do the opposite and can
degrade. Right? And basically beweaponized to that effect.
So how many how many experimentson the entire population of the
earth do you think they can dobefore they destroy the entire
population of the earth?

(59:10):
I really don't want to thinkabout it because I just think
this stuff is so sick. And Imean, if someone like Ferrara
gets the ability to basicallyjust unilaterally decide what
what people have to do to theirbodies, you know, it's obviously
going to go well,
no, no, I can't understand howsomeone like him is allowed to

(59:35):
exist without any sort ofaccountability. is allowed is
not is not in jail. Basically,it's not been investigated and
found to have been a fraudsteralready. That gets gets in a
real world. In a real fairworld. That would happen but we
don't have that. And we documentexactly the sort of people who

(59:56):
run roughshod over civilizedsociety. This is what this is
uncivilized. This is treatingpeople like meatbags, who they
can test on, is uncivilized.This is not civilized society.
Right. So I think it's time weturn to turn to the stuff going
on at the World HealthOrganization right now. So, I

(01:00:20):
want to give credit, first andforemost to James Rogowski,
whose work I was not familiarwith until relatively recently.
I'm not really familiar with himor his background,
unfortunately, but he seems tobe the person raising the most
alarm about what is going on atthe World Health Organization
right now. So from January 9,until the 13th. And just for

(01:00:40):
reference for those listening,we're recording this on on the
13th. This is the time duringwhich the International Health
Regulations review committee areconducting face to face meetings
in Geneva, Switzerland, not thatfar from, you know, Davao,
Switzerland, where the WorldEconomic Forum is hosting its
first in person annual meeting,

(01:01:01):
they are willing to mingle. So Isuppose it won't be thinking
they can jump in and out of eachother's
Yes, yes. So I'm very true. Soanyway, this particular review
committee, what they are doingis to finalize the proposed
amendments to the InternationalHealth Regulations. You may

(01:01:21):
remember that not that long ago,there was an attempt to bring
about these internal andinternational health
regulations, the Amendments Act,but that it was struck down by a
vote of who member states mostsignificantly, from a bloc of
African countries who said noprops to them, but relatively

(01:01:42):
recently, as well. And we'll getinto this in a second, the World
Health Organization and the Billand Melinda Gates Foundation
were part of a new Dark Winterstyle simulation called
catastrophic contagion about ahorrible virus that specifically
attacks Africa, and specificallychildren in Africa, and how they
need the WHO to have all theseunilateral powers in order for a

(01:02:05):
bunch of their kids not to die.That was basically the the
message of that simulationanyway, back to the World Health
Organization. So again, thesemeetings that have gone on this
week, no live stream, there'llbe no public comment period.
They don't really care aboutanyone's opinion, I guess. They

(01:02:26):
just report only to the directordidn't general Lord Pedro's
himself. And then ostensibly,this is going to be voted on and
2024. But because of the certaindeadlines that have been set up,
Renu ski notes that it's verypossible that they may instead
vote on this stuff much soonerthan expected, as a way to sort

(01:02:48):
of preempt protest or criticism.Oh, and have it voted on the
World Health Assembly meeting inMay of this year, they very well
could. So this is why it's veryimportant to cover this.
Amazing, we're going to preemptthe protesters by definitely
causing proof. Well,
they're saying they're going todo it in 2024. But if they have

(01:03:10):
enough time to do it now andthen avoid people preparing that
oppose it, you know, not givethem time to prepare, like
something they do.
Yeah. And it's those momentsthat make us like game like I
say, a civilized society or not.You can't you can't say you're
civilized, if you're not givingeverybody an ability to have a
voice or build you to speak upagainst something. And none of

(01:03:33):
this if everybody knew thefacts, none of this would have
happened. None of this wouldhave been no, no one would have
COVID vaccine in them right now.No one, zero people on Earth.
And what's really interestingabout what you're talking about
the Kentucky sale stuff,catastrophic contagion, they do

(01:03:53):
it on purpose. They've made it atongue twister on purpose for
me. The catastrophic can agentsimulations. Now. It's obvious,
and it's clear that Africa didnot go with the COVID narrative.
It was the only place and oh,well guess what they've they've

(01:04:14):
not had a problem with it, havethey?
But there were five. So COVIDdidn't really hit the African
continent, right the way itallegedly hit everywhere else.
But you did, oddly enough, haveabout five or six heads of state
all die in a very shorttimespan. And interestingly
enough, all heads of state thatdidn't want to do a lot of this

(01:04:35):
biosecurity stuff recommended bythe fool and ostensibly by
Farrar, who was you know, eventhough he wasn't chief scientist
at the time, he was theaccording to the WHO themselves
the key guy on COVID science andfinancing of the response. I
think
that if we want to know wherewe're going to be in the future

(01:04:56):
and how we're going to betreated in the future by these
people, that We should watchAfrica over the next two years,
because there is going to besome form of what we could call
or just simply vengeance wroughtupon those people because they
didn't get into line when theyneeded to get into line. And a

(01:05:16):
lot of these people are I do notcare about Africans, they do not
care about Africans that totallyproved
the Wellcome Trust history inAfrica. It'll be very clear. Who
cares about Africans? Same Samewith the Bill and Melinda Gates
Foundation? Yeah. So anyway, Ithink it's important then, to

(01:05:37):
see exactly what powers the whois attempting to give itself and
what will be voted on either inthis May, or if we want to
believe them. Next year, yourGod now? Yeah. Okay. So one of
the most talked about perhapsamendments is a change to the

(01:05:58):
following line. So the lineoriginally read, the
implementation of theseregulations shall be with full
respect for the dignity, humanrights and fundamental freedoms
of persons. That whole last lineabout dignity, human rights and
fundamental freedoms of personis gone now. It's been replaced.
So it's now reads, theimplementation of these
regulations shall be based onthe principles of equity,

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inclusivity coherence, and inaccordance with their common but
differentiated responsibilitiesof the states parties, taking
into consideration their socialand economic development. So
don't forget the worddifferentiating into any type of

(01:06:43):
let's see, oh, contract?
No, no, but it's happening alot. Now, I'm sure you've seen
it, you know, from Rishi Sunak,you know, statements as, as UK
Prime Minister saying stufflike, more because we're, you
know, a more economicallydeveloped country. So we have
to, you know, give all our moneyaway to these countries and
these causes and this and this,because, you know, we have a

(01:07:03):
different level ofresponsibility than less
economically developedcountries, even though he's
basically imploding the economy.Yeah,
yeah. But that's, I mean, Ipredicted exactly that back in
July is clear that Rishi Sunakwas the guy who's gonna come in
and he's gonna start organizingfor the banks to bank

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Yeah, he's the guy wasn't votedand he was placed in quite
a discount. I mean, from from apoint of a British person is
quite disgusting. And it'sexactly the reason why people
like Jeremy Farrar get away withwhat they get away with is that
that's the power we'veembarrassed direction.
So anyway, these changes,highlight, you know, dignity,

(01:07:47):
human rights and fundamentalfreedoms go out the window when
it comes to the implementationof these regulations. Yeah. So
chief scientist, Jeremy Farrarcan be like, Well, I think these
things have to happen in orderto respond to public health
emergency acts. And thoseresponses do not have to respect
human rights, or fundamentalfreedoms or dignity of people.

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Instead, it's about equity, ietreating all people the same. So
everyone's got to get thevaccine. Right. Yeah. So that's
basically what the equity andinclusivity part means coherence
just means that they're clearlycommunicating what you're being
forced to do. And then, ofcourse, the differentiated
responsibilities. There'll bedifferent standards for

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developing and developedcountries for certain things,
probably to do with financing.Okay, so the other important
changes are about the powersthat the director general Lord
Tadros will receive. So inaddition, say things like the
Director General on the basis ofinformation received may

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determine at any time to issuein intermediate public health
alerts. Immediately after thedetermination of a public health
emergency of internationalconcern under Article 12. The
director general shall make animmediate assessment of
availability and affordabilityof required health products and
make recommendations includingan allocation mechanism, the who

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shall develop an allocation planfor health products, so as to
ensure equitable access topeople of all state parties upon
request of the whose state partyshall ensure the manufacturers
within their territory supplythe requested quantity of health
products to the food or otherstate parties as directed by the
WHO in a timely manner, blah,blah, blah. And this directly
ties into another amendment madeon on that same, that same group

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of pages that says state partiesrecognize the World Health
Organization as the guidance andcoordinating authority of
international public healthresponse during public health
emergencies of internationalconcern and undertake agree to
follow who's recommended nationsin their international public

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health response. Okay, so let'spause for a second and break
that down. So state partiesmember states of the WHO
national nation states recognizethat who guides and coordinates
international public healthresponse during public health
emergencies. And they have tofollow they agree to follow the

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World Health Organization'srecommendations, whatever they
are, as it relates to thatpublic health emergency. And
that public health emergency canbe declared willy nilly by the
director, General. So DirectorGeneral Tedros decides, I think
I'm going to declare a publichealth alert, and it's going to
be a public health emergency ofinternational concern front row.

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And then from that, states haveto do whatever the WHO
recommends and who developsthose recommendations? Well,
it's about to be Jeremy Farrar.
That all of these all of these,anything that gets implemented,
has to work. Yeah, it has tohave a function that everybody
gets on board. So they scarepeople with another virus. What

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do you think's gonna happen?Well, I think this is again, an
example of their hubris, thegreat hubris, they believe that
they've now found a way toconvince everybody that they're
going to die, or they shouldpump the old if they don't get
pumped full of their products,their medical products, but
they've used up all of theirchips over the pandemic, they've

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used up every single chip, theyhave, they have to now convince
people again, before thepandemic Edelman PR, the right
hand guys, PR firm for well, 60to 70% of the businesses around
the world. And of course,Richard Edelman being the right
hand man of Klaus Schwab. Andbeing really closely linked with

(01:11:51):
the World Economic Forum, theywere saying before the pandemic
that they did increase theamount of people who trusted in
the media, again, it gone downto minus 80%. And negative
rating minus apes and 80% ofpeople didn't trust what was
going on in the mainstreammedia. And just before the

(01:12:11):
pandemic, they managed toincrease that through all of
their tools of creatingpolitical crisis and creating
fake fake news all over theplace, they managed to increase
that to about minus 60%. So only60% of people found that the
trusted news, but that was morethan the 80%. So that's better.

(01:12:32):
And now it's gone back downagain, because people have been
lied to. And now, people allaround are watching people fall
over, get Ill die. And you know,when this happened before, with
vaccines, when this has happenedin the past, is meant that the
uptake of new vaccines has beenreally low, and that people do

(01:12:53):
not listen to medicalauthorities anymore for quite a
long period. Because if ithappens in your generation,
you're not going to believe themall of a sudden, when they tell
you the next time, if they tellyou in two weeks, oh, we got
another virus. We gotta go pumpthis vaccine quickly. So get
vaccines, it's not gonna be likethe last time they had it. They
had drive their impotency. Theygot all of these mainstream

(01:13:14):
media characters, they used allof their chips. And now they
don't have any of thosebargaining chips.
I don't know, because there's areason why they're trying to get
these new powers. And I thinkit's so they don't have to
really worry, yes,
they can force it upon people.That's, that is one of my
points. Were like the fifthsixth booster is like a 5%
uptake compared to the 1% to thefirst. So you can see that's

(01:13:37):
what happens every time. Nowit's a generational thing.
pandemics are so rare, andepidemics are so rare. And they
try and push this thing or thesethings on you so rarely, because
they can't do it very easily.People don't just instantly go,
I've just left that pandemicaren't going to trust you. Now,
you just cheated me obviouslyout of that, in that last one,
they're not going to do thatthey are going to say no, and

(01:13:59):
there's going to be resistance.So they have to do it by
implementing policies thatdictate to the people what they
have to have inside them.
Right. So let's go back to thesome of these amendments. So I
just want to point out too, thatnot only do they take all these
new powers for themselves, noneed to worry about human rights

(01:14:20):
and fundamental freedoms anymoreover at the World Health
Organization, because thosethings get in the way of public
health obviously. Um, so they'realso setting up frameworks for
specific things and these arewhat they call health
certificates, and passengerlocator forums. And essentially
this is really a framework forvaccine passports. So, passenger

(01:14:45):
locator forms it says documentscontaining information
concerning traveler destinationshould be produced in digital
form, ideally, with paper formas a residual option. So right
away, they're trying toeliminate what we saw in COVID.
There was no digital They'retrying to make it all digital.
And we know that this doesn'twork that all digital is, is

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what they're gonna ask for. Andthere'll be no paper allowed.
Now, that's what I'm saying. Theamendment makes it so that it's
essentially no paper allowedthat it's has to be digital. So
this time around, there's notgoing to be a paper option, and
that it will be used for contacttracing. And that such documents
will be recognized and acceptedby all whom member parties,

(01:15:28):
right. And then you have healthcertificates, which they say
health documents, maybe maybeproducing digital or paper form,
subject to the approval of therequirements, blah, blah, blah,
about technical requirements andstuff. And how they can will be
protected against abuse andfalsification. So you can't make

(01:15:49):
false vaccine passports anymore.And all of this stuff, there's
like, you know, creatinginternational standards that
will be recognized and accepted
for granting passport. So eatingglobally, structures right
underneath, right,
so not all vaccine passports,this time around, we're digital
where they know, like in the US,it was like this little card

(01:16:10):
that was produced by HHS, thatwas like a physical card that
was written on by the personthat gave the vaccine. In some
places, it was digital, likeChile, for example. I think in
the NHS, it was as well, but mayhave had a paper option. But you
know, essentially, this istrying to create an
international framework so thatit's all digital, again, like

(01:16:31):
the passenger locator stuff. Andyou know, a lot of people have
been talking about for a longtime that vaccine passports are
a segue to digital ID and yousee that, again here. And it of
course, says a little bit moreabout health certificates. Where
it refers to specificallyvaccine or some sort of
treatment, digital or papercertificates should be used.

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It makes traveling almostimpossible.
Well, that's the goal, you'renot going to the idea is to
basically centralize andstandardize these types of
documents. Next time there's apublic health emergency of
international concern
is about do Neo. It's an oldtrick is creating so much

(01:17:17):
bureaucracy that you feelcompletely overwhelmed and when
you try and I mean, for I had acouple of experiences a few
experiences of traveling acrossthe world through COVID. From
from the star COVID. And therewas when you got to a point
where they wanted to digitalsomething from you an airport

(01:17:38):
or, or whatever wanted somethingdigital from you, there was no
way out because there was nopaper alternatives. There's no
way to print the paperalternative. There's no way to
have it. You're just you're justsitting there like hoping Yeah,
I remember being in one linewhere there was this old lady,
she must have been a 660s. Andthey were refusing to let her on
because she can fill out thisdocument that was required by

(01:17:58):
Chile, because she was just tooold and no one would help her
fill out. So she was sitting onthe floor just crying. He was
just walking past her. That'syour that's your future, pay for
your flight. You don't you don'tget your money back. You just
gonna sit on the floor of theairport and cry, you know, go in
anyway.
Yeah, it's obviously a bleakfuture. If this gets through.

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Some of the other things I wantto add really quick, is that
state parties are allowed tobasically disclose your personal
data were essential for thepurposes of assessing and
managing public health risks.Well, Peter Thiel and like all
that. Yeah, well, for peoplethat don't know Peter Thiel is
Palantir has had a major role inmanaging the data in the NHS and

(01:18:39):
also HHS and the UK in the US,basically, all the COVID data
was, you know, aggregated anddata managed by them. Anyway,
something that's alsoparticularly relevant, that the
who plans to strengthen itscapacities to counter
misinformation anddisinformation at the global
level. That's why it's, likemore censorship far away. And

(01:19:03):
this time, it'll be a lot worsethan last time. So if you
thought it was bad last time,and if you think Elon Musk's
Twitter will save you fromJeremy, forever World Health
Organization, I would know I'dsay it's, let's suppose this
stuff. Yeah. And then the lastone, they expand the definition
of what constitutes a publichealth emergency of

(01:19:24):
international concern so that itcan now include clusters of
severe acute pneumonia ofunknown cause. So they can
declare this new global pandemicwhen they don't know what's
causing it.
Like they could be the vaccinesthat they gave Oh,
yeah, or antibody dependentenhancement. Yeah. And then also
clusters of other severeinfections in which human to

(01:19:47):
human treatment transmissioncannot be ruled out. So I don't
know. It seems like a recipe forno good Crazy stuff.
This way, I feel that they canonly become more dystopian, they
can almost they'll have to doeverything by diktat. There's no

(01:20:10):
way that you can keep goingalong this route. And people
will be on board. And puttingsomeone is really interesting.
They put someone else who worksfor the organization, and they
put someone with so much hubrisat the top of the organization,
Jeremy Farrar and these guysthink then the government can
get any kickback that peoplearen't going to point at them

(01:20:31):
and say, look at the loads ofthings that you did. This is a
guy. Normally, if someone coversup a pandemic, be a virus being
released from the lab andcausing a pandemic, normally,
you would expect that thatperson would go a little bit low
key afterwards and a little bitquiet. But Jeremy Farage,

(01:20:54):
Ferrara gets put on top slip atthe time, Jeremy Farrar gets put
on top of the World HealthOrganization that it just seems
like they're they are what wewould say balls out now with
what they're doing. They do notcare, they do not have any fear.
They know that the future isgoing to be major resistance to
all of this. And it is onlygoing to get quicker, it's going

(01:21:17):
to get more extreme. And forthat they need the best man in
on in their world on top ofthat, and that is at the moment,
Jeremy for someone who's beenbrought up and trained by some
of the most influential I mean,I didn't speak about him enough
earlier. But really importantRoy Anderson. And and of course,

(01:21:40):
Richard Sykes, two of the peoplewho helped for our to this area,
well, they will once upon a timethey would they would be
desperate to be in for oursituation. And I have that youth
now to be able to do what for Iwas going to do because variety
is taking their ideas on furtherand that is dictating to people
what is wrong with them andmaking it up if they can't find

(01:22:03):
the evidence and forcing it uponeverybody forcing drugs upon
everybody forcing therapeuticsbeyond everything, but more than
anything, forcingexperimentation upon human
beings, including infants, oneverybody. Yeah,
so let's recap them since we're,you know, coming up to the end

(01:22:25):
of the podcast. So essentially,Jeremy Farrar over his career
has worked for the WellcomeTrust an offshoot of the
organization that wasresponsible for AZT during the
HIV AIDS crisis, that killedlots of people and of course,
tarnished the welcome burrowswelcome name. And then this

(01:22:46):
figure Richard Sykes sort ofoversees the spin off of the
Wellcome Trust andGlaxoSmithKline and all of this,
but they sort of come from thesame,
you also at the same time tojust quickly put in their sights
also rearranges the entire waythat all scientific papers are
accessed and produced and thedatabase is stored on he

(01:23:11):
organized all of that in late80s.
Fascinating, I think RobertMaxwell had a hand in some of
that shape, from scientificjournals as well, actually not
kidding about them. That's real.So anyway, Jeremy Farrar
throughout the rest of careerdoes things where he is sent by
the University of Oxford todifferent epidemics and
pandemics and some cases likethe what you noted earlier, he

(01:23:36):
essentially goes against the fluand says, Oh, well, there
actually is a pandemic here. Andit wasn't there. And fear
mongering was used by the USnational security state to
benefit themselves. And ofcourse, for our benefits. And a
lot of these people who seem tobe wrong all the time, like Neil
Ferguson, who's models arealways insanely, still employed.
He's not wrong. He's not wrong.He knows he's wrong through

(01:23:59):
something else. He's not around.Well, that's what I'm
saying these people arerepeatedly wrong. But they're
kept there for a reason. Andit's because them being wrong is
benefiting somebody. Right? Sothese are people who in other
words are willing to lie tofurther specific agenda with
that agenda being thisbiosecurity surveillance state
that leads us in thistranshumanist era, right. And

(01:24:22):
that's essentially what Ferrarscareer shows, I would really
encourage people to look at yourarticle Johnny called the
welcome five, we'll have linksin the show notes, and also my
past reporting on unlimitedhangout about welcome leap
specifically. So you can reallysee what this guy is capable of.
And I do just want to point outtoo, that among the top funders

(01:24:43):
to the World HealthOrganization, is the UK
Government and the Bill andMelinda Gates Foundation Bill
and Melinda Gates Foundation,works very closely with the
Wellcome Trust loves a lot ofstuff that they do. Right. And
of course, the Wellcome Trust isvery much very much shapes A lot
of health policy with respect tothe government of the United

(01:25:04):
Kingdom. So it's interestingthat you have them being listed,
at least right now, as one ofthe Top funding governments of
the who lease on their website,they've really changed how they
break down their funding, but alot of money from there,
specifically. So you know, maybeit's possible, that's how
Ferrari got this particularposition. And, you know, the

(01:25:26):
people that are responsible forFerraris rise, you know, through
Ferrara are gonna essentially berunning global health policy in
a way that they've never beenable to before. And what we're
seeing here is the emergence ofbasically medical fascism at the
global level, in a way, wherenation states will lack the
sovereignty to say no to the

(01:25:48):
dictates, we've never seenanything like this before.
Yes. And if you're having a guythat's willing to, you know,
trying to get 80% of kids hookedup to like, a bunch of insane
invasive mind mapping technologyto try and like trigger the
singularity, and like all ofthis other crazy stuff, and
create like a, you know,cognitively homogenous group of

(01:26:12):
humans and potentially throughgene editing a lot of other
crazy stuff as well, which isalso associated with welcome
leap. You know, it's a verydisturbing scenario we have
before us. And of course, it'sbeen clear to me for some time
that there's going to be somesort of crisis needed to force
people to agree to adopt a lotof this transhumanist

(01:26:33):
technology. It's no coincidence.I think that a lot of this
transhumanist technology, forseveral years has been framed as
healthcare, one of the pastpodcasts we did, Johnny was
actually titled about, you know,reframing eugenics, as
healthcare. And that'sessentially what we have going
on. Here still, but there has tobe some sort of situation
created where people are forcedto adopt technology, invasive

(01:26:59):
technology, on or in theirbodies, they otherwise would
not. And it seems like what wehave before us are the is
essentially the foundation forthat type of event to take
place. And I think people reallyneed to be very cognizant of
that, and consider what you willdo to oppose this, because it's

(01:27:19):
very, you know, I thinkessentially, you know, if you're
in the place, a place like theUS, you know, resistance is not
going to come from the federalgovernment, the best you're
probably going to be able to dois, you know, affect something
at the local or state level,where a state legislature or
some sort of local council saysthat, you know, World Health
Organization dictates, you know,can't be unilaterally imposed on

(01:27:44):
your community or your statewithout, you know, some sort of
debate or something, well,there's
got to be some form of effort tostop globalist agendas and
policies being introduced on anylocal level. And there needs to
be some rethinking of how wehold our politicians and our
representatives accountable,because it's not working.

(01:28:07):
Well, obviously, it's notworking. But I think the
response is obviously going tobe something that's
decentralized. If you make, youknow, one central entity that
gets any traction, they're goingto focus all their attention on
that and destroy it, butnumerous decentralized efforts
to do stuff locally, I think isgoing to be a lot harder for
them to tack on. I think, youknow, based on what I've seen
over the past several years,that seems to be the most, you

(01:28:27):
know, effective way out of it,the more resilient you can make
your community to this stuff,whatever that means for you, you
know, is where this ultimatelyneeds to go. I know that you
would like to see, you know,French Revolution style
guillotine stuff or whatever.But, you know, it may not
necessarily be that way soonerrather than later. You know,

(01:28:47):
what I,
what I really want to see ispeople come to this and some
people think about things andpeople think about where we go
and so so, you know, I though Ido joke about the return of the
galleys and guillotines. I dothink there's, there's there is
a point where people will breakand say no more. And so that
will happen. Yeah, if they keeppushing, the people don't just

(01:29:10):
keep accepting it, it gets lessand less people. And their
agenda is really focused andreally hardcore, and is really
invasive. And some of the peoplewho are involved in it are
really powerful people. Andthere's people who are getting
dirty with their associations aswell. So one thing I'll just say
near the end of this is that inthem the welcome five article. I

(01:29:32):
research five people whoconnected with the Wellcome
Trust in the past, includingJeremy for warrior, Roy
Anderson, Neil Ferguson, andRichard Sykes, and I look at a
few others too. But what youfind connects nearly all of
these people is theirmemberships of certain societies
and certain organizations intheir case, it is the Royal

(01:29:54):
Society in the UK, which wasmade up to be a place where lots
of scientists and to medicalpeople and come together and
have their little club. Butreally, it's a roundtable group
where they can separate actionsfrom the politicians and the
politicians go there and ask theguys there who are members of
the Royal Society to go andorganize all of these people to

(01:30:15):
do these things. So it's a waythat breaks out if we can see if
we can expose those parts asimportant conduit. So as
important cogs that make thisthe stuff work without
accountability for these badactors, then we can bring the
whole thing that we can bringthe whole thing down because
their structure relies on reallysignificant and important

(01:30:36):
conduits like like, fundingconduit, for the CIA for
universities and stuff. You takeaway that conduit, you stop the
program running. WhenKissinger's international
seminar was running soon as itwas exposed, Kissinger's
international seminar stopped.
Yeah, but that that depended onjournalists like exposing it.

(01:30:56):
Yeah, they're, they're planningto censor a lot more. So I think
people should get a lot wiserabout media consumption, do not
rely on social media, for yournews, invest in something like
an RSS feed, or some sort ofother means of accessing the
sites you like. And in sort ofaggregating that information. On

(01:31:17):
big tech,
yeah, communicate with a rangeof people with all different
views and get loads of differentideas and a load of different
forms of evidence and make upyour own mind based on
everything, not based on onlywhat certain people, if you will
ever get told in life, certainpeople know better than the rest
of you, you, then those certainpeople are not to be trusted.
That's a rule you can put overlife. If you have someone who

(01:31:39):
says no, we know about this, andyou shouldn't listen to anyone
else. As soon as they say youshouldn't listen to anyone else.
They're liars.
So the last point I want tobring up here too, is that I do
not think that all of this wouldbe happening right now. The
World Health Organization powergrab this catastrophic contagion
simulation, looking at the areaera, the main continent in the

(01:32:00):
world that didn't play ball withthe COVID stuff. And Jeremy
Ferrars appointment, all ofthis, to me suggests that what
we saw over the past threeyears, they plan to do again,
and they plan to have learnedfrom their mistakes, and they
plan to have the big guns outthis time. Yeah, okay, I can
safely assume that that will nothappen until after these

(01:32:21):
amendments are approved. Butafter that point, and once
Farrar is in this position,watch these people like hawks,
there is going to be somethingthey are going to do this again.
Because otherwise they are notgoing to get to all of the
different you know, go rememberthis is all about remaking the
world. This is not just aboutremaking health policy that is a

(01:32:42):
key part of this, because a lotof this technology needed to run
the smart grid and all of thisstuff they are forcing through
and into our world and into youthrough health policy. That's
how they're getting a foot inthe door. But this is about
remaking every aspect of oursociety. That's what agenda 2030
is all about. And one of thosesustainable development goals

(01:33:04):
that composed 2030 Number threeis about health care, but this
is this is the way that it'sbeing it's, you know, if you let
them it's game over,
how do you cause a great resetof any type of industry or any
type of economy, you could seewhat they're doing now they're

(01:33:25):
gonna have to crash it they'regonna have to make it feel as
unmanageable and so then theyoffer you a new system and
medical may be the same. Theywill push this until
we're already talking about it.Yeah, I headline I saw a couple
days ago at preparing for theimminent collapse of the US
healthcare system. I've beensaying hey, for a long time the
NHS is near collapse. Yeah. AndChilean media, they talk about

(01:33:47):
oh, hotels are overstretch they
were your saviors be way yoursaviors because in the same club
in that Royal Society alongsideFarrar and Sykes and people and
these manipulators behind thescenes are also a rare American

(01:34:07):
is allowed in in this case isonly a couple Bill Bryson's in
there but also Elon Musk is amember of the Royal Society
understand that they all flocktogether and they will give you
your saviors as they give you
a quick talking about you knowhow I think Ferrara is gonna in
this position as chief scientistwho was going to try and force

(01:34:28):
you know, transhumanist tech onpeople. They also need people
that oppose the food and youknow, their policies and this
power grabs they need to sellthat same tech to them but from
a different angle. Right. And Iwould argue that someone like
Elon Musk has been very muchprimed and set up for this
personal Savior role over aseries of years and I talked

(01:34:48):
about this on a recent panelwith with Derek bros. James
Corbett Ryan Christian and JasonBurma's. You know, that's
essentially what's happened hereand you have him you know,
selling transhumanist tuckedunder the same metrics that the
same narrative that is used topromote them by people like
we're going to do get in thehead of welcome leap and by
DARPA and stuff. So healthcarejustification, how does Elon

(01:35:12):
Musk justify neuro link? Oh,it's gonna help the blind see,
and the Paralyzed walk. Andthat's how he justifies about
commercializing it, andeveryone's gonna have one, you
don't want to be left behindwhen everyone's gotten the chip
in the brain and the upgradeunder there. So you know, I
really see that they're tryingto sell this from multiple

(01:35:32):
angles. And ultimately, it comesdown to how many people are
going to be willing to sacrificetheir convenience and their
comfort, to say no to thisagenda and this technology, it
stops, do not let them in, dothis stuff to you and your
children. Full stop. Yeah.Essentially the way out if you

(01:35:52):
don't know how to organize or doanything in your local
community, that's the red line.
Agreed, but they will make anecessity. Now, this time you
try to Yeah, well, this timethey released a fairly minor, or
released or at least releasedfrom a lab was a minor disease.

(01:36:13):
In the future, these guys couldrelease something really
catastrophic, and spread itaround, as they, as they see fit
to cause as much fear. And allof these, I told you, so from
these people who are in control,now you've got to listen to us.
And that's what I see in thefuture.
Well, I think, you know, myadvice would be, you know, a lot

(01:36:38):
of this they can't accomplishwithout having a lot of people
really scared and afraid. Sofear should be your enemy. And
you should also, again, keepyour kids and yourselves away
from all this experimental crap,because a lot of it comes under
the transhumanist umbrella atthe end of the day. And if you
don't want that transhumanistagenda 2030 future for you and

(01:37:00):
your family and your community.And more broadly speaking the
world this is this is the timeto oppose it the time is now. So
again, I would encourageeveryone to follow up a lot on
on what the who is doing withthese amendments, who Jeremy
Farrar is, please considerlooking into the Wellcome Trust
more if you haven't already.Because as you know, Johnny and

(01:37:23):
I have mentioned before, thereis a lack of reporting by
independent media on theWellcome Trust, and on Jeremy
Farrar, and he is poised to havea lot of power if these
amendments are rammed throughwhich seems increasingly likely,
yeah. So please, I would urgethose watching. If you haven't
looked at or listening, if youhaven't before, definitely look

(01:37:44):
at the show notes on this one,take the time to read it and
understand what we're facinghere. Because this is a global
biosecurity issue. If you didnot like the past three years,
it's time to get prepared andunderstand who these people are,
what they have done and whatthey are likely to do, again,
and how to prepare yourself andyour family. Anything else you'd
like to add? Final thoughts,John?
No, no, I would say that. Yeah,I mean, that's well said, you,

(01:38:07):
we, those, I don't want to limitto only those who have children,
those who have loved ones, thosewho care about anybody in the
world. I mean, I want to see mychildren get by without being
compromised. And that's what Ifeel the modern medical system,
and these actors do to ourchildren and to us, it
compromises the will need to behooked up to medicines for the

(01:38:30):
rest of our life. And we allknow it, we all know that. So
don't just don't fall for
it. They see you as a data setas a biological computer. And
that's how they that's how theyview everyone that's not in
their little club, right? Andthey will treat you like that as
expendable and you can beexperimented on. That's why you
see in the the WHO regulations,dignity, human rights,

(01:38:54):
fundamental freedoms, no, it'sabout treating everyone the
same. And everyone is a slave asa serf to these guys at the top.
And they're going to doeverything in their power to
make itself and it's obviouslyincumbent on all of us to oppose
them. Well, alright, John,thanks for giving me a
significant portion of your timetoday. Thanks for coming back on

(01:39:16):
the podcast. Where can peoplefollow your work and support you
and what do you have coming up?
Well, I you can find me atJohnnyvedmore.com. Of course,
I'm writing on unlimitedHangout. And I'm also on
fungimonkey.com, which is a lotof my media stuff. There's loads
of interesting articles comingup. Just released a piece on the

(01:39:39):
German Marshall Fund, which is areal interest in organization
that kind of the piece kind oflinks up the Henry Kissinger's
international seminar and, andthe Young Global Leaders program
in the way of leadership coursesthat come out of especially
Harvard. I got an Just stuffcoming up is really interesting.

(01:40:02):
Some some things I'm working onat the moment are some of the
most interesting things I'veever worked probably in my life.
At times as they get moredystopian get more interesting
for us as journalists. That's anunfortunate byproduct
versus our workload.
Yeah. So so I just encouragepeople, you know, go out and
read, don't only read the onething, read everything. Never

(01:40:25):
trust anybody who tells you notto look in a certain place and
only to look at where they go.We want to encourage people to
look at everything up your ownmind. And thanks for having me
on.
Yeah, absolutely. So I thinkthis is a very important timely
episode. So I would encouragethose listening, if you thought
this information was important,please share it around. Because

(01:40:45):
we definitely have algorithmsand censorship working against
us. And as we just talked aboutearlier today, next time, the
who declares a public healthemergency of international
concern, that censorship, we'llprobably get a lot worse than it
was last time. So try andprepare yourself for that if
you're interested in things likeRSS feeds or how to follow this
podcast or unlimited hangoutarticles by that means. We have

(01:41:07):
info about that on the website.We can put that in the show
notes as well. A big thank youas always to supporters of
unlimited hangout and peoplethat subscribe to this podcast.
You keep my articles andJohnny's articles coming as they
do and of course, this podcastup and running as well. And we
thank you so much for that. Andyeah, that's it for now, and

(01:41:29):
we'll catch you on the nextepisode. Thanks.

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