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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome its verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
it is the day after Easter, but the White House
wouldn't want you to know that Easter even happened on Sunday.
They were too obsessed with making sure that everybody knew
about the see everybody that's transgender day.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, listen, I hope everyone had a wonderful and blessed
Easter yesterday. I hope you had a weekend with your
family where you gave thanks to God for God's blessings.
And I got to say, right in the middle of it,
seeing the Biden White House say essentially Easter doesn't happen
in this White House, that they're woke priorities Trump and
any recognition of Christianity or even acknowledgment of Christianity is
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really sad. We're also going to talk in this episode
today about California's new twenty dollars minimum wage law, which
sadly has had having exactly the predicted effect of causing
thousands upon thousands of workers to lose their job. Fast
food restaurants all across California are laying off workers because
woke politicians do not understand basic supply and demand. And third,
(01:05):
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News saying essentially, Republicans need not apply. We are a
Democrat only network. And actually, for a brief moment, the
network big wigs tried to hire a Republican and their
on air talent all left wing Democrats, lost their minds
lit their hair on fire, and immediately the network execs
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It's a day that I love on Sunday because the
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world stops and that doesn't happen very often, and Christians
all over the world come together to celebrate the resurrection
of Jesus Christ. It is a day when you see
people come to church at staggering numbers, uh and come
together as families. But you look at the White House
and you go to White House dot gov, they had
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a very different message for Americans. In fact, they tried
to hijack I would argue Easter altogether for another woke moment.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, that's exactly right. The White House put out an
announcement on Friday, on Good Friday that that that that
read quote. Now, therefore, I, Joseph Arbiden, Junior President of
the United States, by virtue of the authority vested in
me by the Constitution and the Laws of the United States,
do hereby proclaim marks thirty first, twenty twenty four as
Transgender Day of Visibility. Sunday was Easter Sunday. Yeah, look, look,
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listen as a Christian that there is no more important
day in the calendar Listen, Christmas is a wonderful celebration
of Jesus' birth, but at the end of the day,
the entirety of Christianity is about Jesus' crucifixion on Good
Friday and his resurrection on Easter. Obviously not on those
exact days, but those are the days we celebrate his
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dying for our sins. And I got to say, for
the White House to decide, you know, Easter is not
really important. The only thing that matters to us is
our politics, and nothing matters more than's transgender Day of
Visibility like that that that's truly stunning.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Not only is it stunning, but it's also one of
those moments and people that have not been around a
White House. This is not by accident. And there were
even some people going, look, you guys are of reacting
AKA Christians, they're just acknowledging. They didn't create this day, right,
The President is acknowledging this transgender visibility day. And this
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could have been just you know, doing two things at once,
and they're not really they're not really overlooking Easter. I
don't believe that for a moment. This is me personally
saying that I think this was a deliberate moved by
this White House to spit in the face of Christians
and to say to younger voters that maybe don't believe
in God and the extremists on the Democratic side, hey,
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we are your party. I think this was deliberate for
November because they're trying to shure up younger voters are
saying they may stay home and not vote for Joe Biden. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
See, I guess I disagree with you on that, Ben.
I don't really think this was like a overt political decision.
I think the senior officials at the White House, most
of them have no idea it's Easter. I think they
are so second I think faith is so distant from
their lives that it doesn't even occur to them. I
don't think they had a warning sign.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It reminds me of you remember a couple of years
ago when Jill Biden was down in San Antonio, Texas,
and she was speaking at a LATINX conference. Oh yeah,
and in her remark she said that that that that
that Hispanics are as diverse as breakfast tacos, which was
so utterly offensive. My response immediately was, well, I'm a
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jonag and chee, so thank you, Jill, and it truly is.
But what was interesting about that, what was revealing about
that it was not a gaff. It was not an
off the cuff comment, that's the sort of thing Joe
Biden might say off the cuff. It was written in
her remarks, which means the political office at the White
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House signed off on it. And they are so woke
that to them being condescending to Latinos who they want
to call latinx. And by the way, anyone who uses
the word LATINX, I promise you is not a Latino
and not a Latina. They are a rich white liberal
and to them it sounds perfectly perfectly normal to say,
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you cute little Latinxes are as diverse as Tacos. I
think it's the same sort of thing here. They put
this out and and all of them, I actually think
they're home celebrating transgender Day of Visibility. They're they're not
not really aware it's Easter. I guess they know that
there there are a lot of bunny rabbits around for
some reason, but I don't know that they could tell
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you why.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
All right, so let me ask you this let's go
with your theory for a second, because there's a there's
definitely a chance that you're correct on this. But the
White House spoken.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And the truth is probably the truth is probably some
of both, it is, but but the question is which
is the predominant one. And I lean to there just
being that oblivious that they don't even realize they don't
know any person of faith who actually celebrates Easter, so
it doesn't occur to them that there's anything offensive about
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what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
All right, So let's talk about the double down, because
the White House spokesman John Pierre doubled down after President
Joe Biden declared Easter Sunday Transgender Day of Visibility. She
put a statement out on xt Saturday, following the backlash
to Biden's animated affirmation of the controversial quote holiday that
happens to me on the same day as the holiest
Christian holiday that we have on the calendar. Quote on
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Transgender Day of Visibility. The Biden Heri's administration honors the
extraordinary courage and contributions of transgender Americans and reaffirms our
nation's commitment to forming him are more perfect union where
all people are treated equally. That is what she put
on X on Saturday. Do you think they just doubled
down because they had no choice? It was like, all right,
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we look like idiots. We've just offitted a ton of
Christians and people of faith this country who basically just
spit in their face. So this will be our way
of saying, hey, we're kind of doing two things at once.
Calm down.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So I don't think they know anyone they offended. I
think they view anyone who would be offended as a
deplorable So it's I genuinely believe there was not a
person in this White House who was offended. And most
of them would tell you, I think they don't know
anyone that they if they have a family member, they
think they're an ignorant family member they don't talk to anymore.
(09:24):
And listen, I'll tell you what I was actually more
okay the two things on this number one, I put
out a statement as it did a lot of people
pointing out how ridiculous this was, and I put it
out on AX, and it was interesting all the lefties
who responded to me. There were a bunch of them
that said, weh, no, no, it just transgender Day. Of
visibility happened to occur this Sunday. It's not our fault
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that Easter coincided with what is clearly this day is
transgender Day. And it was kind of like, Okay, I'm
not sure about this holiday you're talking about, but Easter
spin around a couple thousand and years. It's like they
treat Easter like, who is this interloper that dare land
in the midst of our celebration. But let me say
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something else that actually I found even more offensive, which
is every year the White House has an Easter egg roll.
And the Easter egg Roll is a fun event, and
you know, you have a lot of people who take
their kids there and they have Easter eggs and that
they're wooden and they're painted, they're really neat, and there's
a contest for kids. Well, the Biden White House has
(10:30):
a contest for kids to paint Easter eggs. And they
had a flyer describing what the kids must do. And
here's what the flyer for the content said. An Easter
egg design submission quote must not include any questionable content,
religious symbols, overtly religious themes, or partisan political statements. So
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understand and by the way. This is on behalf of
first Lady Jill Biden. Surprised you didn't call it the
LATINX Easter egg roll. They invite people there and understand
they want you to paint Easter eggs that, according to
their dictate, have nothing to do with Easter. They literally prohibit,
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they say, any religious themes, symbols, or content on a
celebration of Easter.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Rights, yeah, cross would be overly religious. The words?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
All right, what are the most common three words that
any Christian says on Easter? He has he has risen?
And what does everyone respond? He has risen? Indeed, I
sat down, I texted a whole bunch of my friends
today and and and and texted them scriptures. But he
has risen. So according to the Biden rules, you're not
allowed to put he has risen. You are allowed to
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put an Easter bunny. Uh, you are allowed to put
something utterly secular. And and look what I find grotesquely offensive?
Is I listen? This White House puts out celebrations of
Rashashan on Jan kupor, as they should on the Jewish holidays.
Do they have a rule no Jewish symbols on the
Jewish high holidays. They celebrate Ramadan. What are the odds
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you think on Ramadan? They say, nope, you cannot say
anything Muslim on Ramadan, like Easter is a Christian holiday.
And these bastards, I mean this, it really does. They're
telling children when you celebrate Easter at the White House,
it cannot actually be Easter.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, I rarely, and I'm going to ask your permission.
I know what the answer is going to be. But
I don't share our texts, but I'd like to read
part of your text today that you mentioned. Is that
Is that okay?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Sure? So one of the scriptures that you sent in
a text that I got from you, it says he
is not there, he has risen. Remember how he told
you while he was still with you in Galilee, the
son of Man must be delivered over to the hands
of sinners, be crucified, and on the third day be
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raised again Luke twenty four six through seven. Now I
love that verse and you sent it to me this morning.
Thank you for that, by the way. And it was
one that I was thinking about that kids learn. In fact,
my kids in school learned Luke twenty four six and
seven this week. It was their memory verse. What if
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a kid wanted to put that on an egg? My
kid would have thought of that, right, because this is
part of the holiday, and they would have been I
guess disqualified or not even be allowed in the Easter
egg art contest of the White House because that would
be religious texts, which would be I guess extremism in
the eyes of the White House.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So let me read more of the White House's official guidance.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Selected designs representing the unique experiences and stories of National
Guard children will be brought to life on real hend
eggs by talented egg artists from across the country and
display at the White House this Easter and Passover season.
Children can't promote material that promotes quote bigotry, racism, hatred,
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or harm against any group or individual. Okay, I'm good
with all that. You shouldn't be promoting that or promotes
discrimination based on race, gender, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation,
or age. So under their definition, anything that acknowledges Christianity
presumably is promoting discrimination based on religion. If you quote
Jesus as saying, I'm the way the truth in the life.
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No man comes to the Father but by me. That
according to the White House rules. Nope, you're not allowed
to acknowledge it on Easter. Easter is the celebration. Why
are we having a holiday? Do we just somehow think
bunny rabbits lay eggs?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
What is the purpose of this event? And that level
there is.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
A can we call it that towards Christians? That's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It is abiding hate for people of faith generally, but
especially for Christians. And that's true for Catholics, that's true
for Evangelicals, it's true. Look, if you celebrated Easter, I
mean I want to ask you if you were asked, hey,
do you want to paint an egg for the White House?
And would it occur to you if it was an
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Easter egg to say something about what the holiday is about? Well,
that is prohibited under the rules from this White House.
I got to say that really pisses me off.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
This also makes me go back to when people said
that conservatives like myself. I don't know if you've ever
tweet something like this, So I'll ask you. You know
when several years ago when we talk about I say Christmas,
the real meaning of Christmas under attack and people are
trying to take Christ out of Christmas, and then the
left is like, you guys are crazy, You're paranoid, you're
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radical extremists. Christians, no one's trying to take Christ out
of Christmas and the slippery and then you fast forward
to this Easter. The White House is saying nothing religious
on the Easter eggs. We're making, you know, Eastern the
same as Transgender Visibility Day. And I'm sitting there going, see,
I'm not crazy. I know what you're doing, and I'm
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watching it and I'm calling you out on it. And
you guys don't understand that we understand when we should
be offended by what you're trying to do, which is
have Christmas without Christ, have Easter without the Resurrection.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So I'll tell you in the Senate, I mean, there's
a consistent divide. Democrats won't say Merry Christmas. It is
only Republicans. And actually when you say Marry Christmas, you
almost feel like a crazy rebel. I mean, I mean
it is a bizarre you know, it's it's happy holidays,
but you're kind of like, gee, what what is the
holiday you're you're celebrating And by the way, look for
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my Jewish friends when they're celebrating Jewish holidays. I am
happy to wish them the best celebrating holidays that are
important to their faith. But but but as a Christian,
I celebrate Christmas, I celebrate Easter. And for the left,
look that they're antagonistic to faith across the board. But
there is a particular vitriol, hatred, antagonism, resentment, all of
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those are there to Christianity in particular, which is why
they literally want to erase Christ from Christmas. It's apparently
about a fat guy in a sleigh, and they want
to erase Christ from Easter. It's apparently about bunny rabbits
and eggs.
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that back up that when you mandate ridiculous wages, it
ends up hurting the people that you claim you're helping
the most. Specifically on big increases in minimum wage. Now,
the federal government has a minimum wage, but states have
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They have the highest unemployment rate of any state in
America right now, and they've just gone and pushed their
twenty dollars minimum wage. When it comes to fast food workers,
they did this and guess what happened over eight hundred
For example, pizza delivery drivers got noticed that they were
being laid off and they deliver for Pizza Hut because
(20:24):
it is unsustainable to pay twenty dollars an hour to
deliver pizzas, and yet Democrats are still cheering on this insanity.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well, it's a lot more than that. So this new
law goes into effect today Monday, and it is twenty
dollars an hour for fast food workers at chains with
more than sixty locations in the United.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
States, now in California, in the in the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And by the way, that is a twenty five percent
increase from the old minimum wage of sixteen dollars an
hour in California. And the layoffs have been massive and
far reaching. So Pizza Hut laid off more than one
tho two hundred delivery workers that was in Pizza Hut.
(21:14):
Round Table Pizza chain of about four hundred locations, said
it will lay off one two and eighty delivery workers.
Ex Caliber Pizza, one of his franchises, has plans to
cut seventy three drivers workers, twenty percent of its workforce.
And by the way, McDonald's, Chipotle, Jack in the Box
and other change say, what they're going to do is
raise the menu prices to offset the costs. By the
(21:37):
way they're doing more so, California based El Poyo Loco
has told investors. It is automating some of its salsa
making to mitigate minimum wage rises. Jack in the Box
is testing friar robots and automatic drink dispensers. And understand,
none of this is surprising. This is to be predicted.
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In California. There are roughly five hundred and fifty seven
thousand fast food workers and they're about thirty thousand restaurants
in California. This minimum wage increase is going to drive
some of those restaurants out of business. Some of them
will go broke. When they go broke, all of their
employees will lose their jobs, both the minimum wage employees
and the higher ones, the managers. Everyone will lose their
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job when the restaurants go broke. The ones that don't
go broke, we are seeing literally thousands upon thousands of
people being fired. And by the way, the pizza places,
what they're saying they're gonna do is they're going to
use door Dash and Uber Eats. They're just gonna use
third party apps, and they're they're firing all their drivers.
So and it's interesting that that there was a quote.
(22:45):
There's an article in the Daily Mayor Male that quotes
quotes one guy Michael o'heeda, twenty nine, who's a pizza
Hunt driver in Ontario, California, and he said he received
a notice from his pizza Hunt franchisee in December warming
him that his last day would be in February. And
here's his quote, Pizza Hutt was my career for nearly
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a decade, and with little to no notice, it was
taken away. Well, there are consequences when you elect radical
democrats in California has done it across the board. They
have every state wide elected officials a Democrat. They have
super majorities in both houses of the legislature. And understand,
over and over and over again, when you jack up
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the minimum wage, this is what happens. And one of
the things I like to do when people say, well,
we want a twenty dollars minimum wage that helps people, Okay, Well,
if it helps people, why would you stop at twenty?
Why not fifty dollars an hour? Why not a hundred?
Why not one thousand dollars an hour? Let's pass a
law that everyone must be paid at least one thousand
dollars an hour. Wouldn't that magically mean that money would
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rain into the hands of everyone isn't that how it
works been.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Apparently, if if you've never been to school and you
don't know how the economy, how economy work, and how
inflation works, and yet you have warnings. We've seen this
time and time again. There are professors that will come
out and say, when you increase sinum wage, you think
you're helping people, but in reality, the costs of basic
food and milk and bread and all these things go up,
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so it actually takes more money out of their pocket.
And yet they still keep doing it. And this on
top of the fact that they already had the highest
unemployment rate of any state in America right now, this
is only going to make it not just a little
bit worse, a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So let me tell you, Ben, I spend a lot
of time actually talking to small business owners and restaurant
tours in particular. I love restaurant tours, and I tell
whether it's Burger King franchises or Mexican restaurants or also
I meat up with all sorts of restaurant owners, both
in Texas and when they come to Washington.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And one of the things I explain it when you
say restaurant tour, because I don't think people understand exactly
what that means.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's someone who owns a restaurant. Someone who owns a restaurant,
and sometimes they have one restaurant. Sometimes they'll have a
dozen Jack in the Boxes or a dozen Burger Kings,
or But when I meet with restaurant owners, one of
the things I tell them all the time is I say, listen,
you may think you're in the food business, but I
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actually don't think you're in the food business. You're in
the opportunity business. Because for millions and millions of Americans,
their first job is in a restaurant. And one of
the things I do all the time, Ben when I'm
at a town hall, I've got, you know, three four
hundred people in a room, I'll ask them how many
people in this room have ever worked at a restaurant. Inevitably,
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about half the hands in the room go up. Now,
the argument lefties say is, well, you know, if you're
making ten bucks an hour flipping burgers, you can't feed
a family of four on ten bucks an hour. And
you know what, they're right, It's actually very hard to
feed a family of four on ten bucks an hour.
Here's the problem. Most people are not feeding a family
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of fourping burgers. What happens and what restaurants are all
about is they're often the entry level job. So you
get a lot of teenagers, You get a lot of sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
nineteen year old it's their first job, and they learn skills.
They learn to show up. They learned to show up
on time that they learned to interact with customers, they
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learned to make change, they learned to work hard, they
learned to be disciplined, all of the skills that enable
them to get promoted. So very few people spend their
entire career flipping burgers at ten bucks an hour. That's
an entry level job. And by the way, if you
do it and do a good job, you almost inevitably
get promoted. So let me give a personal story from
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my family background. When my dad came from Cuba, it
was nineteen fifty seven and he came to Texas. He
was eighteen. He had nothing, he was broke, and he
couldn't speak English. So the very first job he got
was washing dishes at a restaurant and he made fifty
cents an hour. Now why did he get that job?
Because he couldn't speak English and a lot of jobs.
(27:06):
Most jobs in Texas at the time in nineteen fifty
seven you had to speak English. You didn't have to
speak English to wash a dish. So that's what he
could do with the skill set he had at that time. Now,
I will point out that by the time that he
and my mom had me, he wasn't making fifty cents
an hour anymore. But his first job let him get started.
And by the way, he was a freshman at ut
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that money at the time he paid his way through school.
But what happened is very quickly thereafter he started learning English,
and when he learned English, she got promoted. His second
job was at the same restaurant, and it was as
a cook, and a second job, he made eighty cents
an hour. Now he thought a cook was a much
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better job than a dishwasher, and it was an eighty
cents an hour was a lot better than fifty cents
an hour. His next job after that was as a
teaching assistant at University at Texas, teaching undergrad's math, and
his next job after that was as a computer programmer
at IBM. But he doesn't get those subsequent jobs without
that first job washing dishes, and the left doesn't get
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that when you do this, the people who are being
laid off, by the way, are predominantly low skilled, low income,
and very young. The majority of people who California just
laid off, the statistics tell us, are very likely to
be Hispanic or African American, to be teenagers with limited skills,
and this was their first job where they were getting skills.
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And Democrats are pulling up the ladder and saying, you
don't get to get skills. Instead, you should be unemployed.
But guess what, we got a welfare check for you,
and you can just stop working right now because we'll
pay you as long as you vote Democrat.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Here's my question, and it comes back to California really
full circle. You have all these people that are laid off.
I wonder how many of them will not vote for
Democrats next time number one or two. They just say, Okay,
it is what it is, and I'll get some free
cash for a little bit and then I'll find another job.
(29:10):
Or is there gonna be a turning point do you
think center where it gets so bad with the absurdity
of twenty dollars an hour, twenty five an hour, whatever
it is and the sustainability of it, that there's no
other way but for people's eyes to be open. I
just don't have a lot of confidence.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, look, I don't know, and I suspect it will
be some of both. So one of the things, again
that a lot of Democrats don't understand, is that in
any business you have a trade off between labor and capital,
and so you have a choice which one to invest in.
So the example I use when my dad was washing
dishes making fifty cents an hour. Thank god, some well
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meaning liberal didn't come along and pass a two dollars
minimum wage law. Now they might have said, I want
to help those poor people making fifty cent an hour,
so I'm gonna mandate you cannot pay anyone less than
two dollars an hour. You know what they would have done.
They would have fired my father. Yeah, and they would
have bought a dishwasher. That you have a trade off
(30:12):
do you use labor or do you use capital. Notice
when I was going through in California that they're discussing
stores that are that they're looking at automated salsa makers,
that are looking at robotic French fry friars, that are
looking at automated soft drink dispensers. Have you ever been
to a restaurant and ordered an iPad or in a kiosk?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yes, and it's becoming more regular now.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And you know what that is. This is this is
actually ancient history. But I used to describe iPads and
kiosks as a fifteen dollars waitress. Which is what happened
is some well meaning Democrats said you got to pay
people fifteen dollars an hour. And you know what, the
restaurant owner said, I can't stay in business. The math
doesn't work. So I'm gonna fire the waitress. I'm gonna
fire the waiter, and I'm gonna put a piece of
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metal and you know what, I have to pay the
piece of metal zero dollars an hour. Now I've got
some upfront capital, but once I put the iPad of
the kioska, I don't have to pay them an hourly wage.
And when you jack up the cost of labor, inevitably
the result is people lose their jobs. And the people
who lose it understand who democrats hurt. They hurt the
(31:18):
most vulnerable. By the way, the same thing is true
when Democrats did shutdowns during COVID when they shut schools down,
the people who got hurt the most were low income kids.
They were African American kids, they were Hispanic kids. The
data show we have the biggest learning gap since we
have been recording learning results. And by the way, the
(31:40):
racial gap grew more during the COVID lockdowns than in
any period in recorded history. So understand, this is what
democrats do. And by the way, if your parents were rich,
guess what the school shut downs. They were inconvenient, but
you could hire a tutor, you had resources. Your kids.
Rich kids didn't fall behind all that much during the lockdowns.
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Low income kids if they had a single mom with
three four kids, for millions of them, they essentially didn't
go to school for months and months and months on end.
And again, this is what Democrat policies systematically do. They
hurt the most vulnerable while at the same time they're
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sermonizing about how they want to help the most vulnerable.
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to ask you about saying that happened this last week,
and it was a story that was I was even
shocked by it. The former RNC chairwoman was hired by
NBC News to become a commentator slash NBC News. She
was hired, it came out, and what ended up happening
(34:17):
was virtually every name that was a host of a show,
a big talent at NBC, including me. The press said,
we're not going to work with her, she's a radical
Trump extremist. January sixther We're not going to work with her,
and they literally ripped her on air in a way
(34:39):
that I didn't even think they would do, but they
did it. And here's a montage of just how bad
it was.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Joined by former RNC chair Roni McDaniel in her first
interview since stepping down as party chair. In full disclosure
to our viewers, this interview was scheduled weeks before it
was announced that McDaniel would become a paid NBC News contributor,
will be a news interview and I was not involved
in her hiring.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I think our bosses owe you an apology for putting
you in this situation. And look, there's a reason why
there's a lot of journalists at NBC News uncomfortable with this,
because many of our professional dealings with the RNC over
the last six years have been met with catilating, have
been met with characters fascination.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
We weren't asked our opinion of the hiring, but if
we were, we would have strongly objected to it.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
At NBC News, either wittingly or unwittingly, is teaching election
deniers that what they can do stretches well beyond appearing
on our air and interviews to pedal lies about the
sanctity and integrity of our elections so that they can
do that as one of us, as badge carrying employees
of NBC News, there.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Is an easy way to avoid the controversy NBC News
has stumbled into.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Don't hire anyone close to the crimes.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
She literally backed an illegal scheme to an election in
the state of Mission.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
That is the type of experience that Ronald McDaniel brings
to the table, and that experience does not get us
to a deeper understanding of anything in the public debate.
I want to associate myself with all my colleagues, both
at MSNBC and at NBC News who have voiced loud
and principled objections to our company putting on the payroll
(36:22):
someone who hasn't just attacked us as journalists, but someone
who is part of an ongoing project to get rid
of our system of government.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Senator that was clearly orchestrated by the talent. They were
not going to work with her, and they were going
to ruin her career before it even started.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, look, NBC News sadly is a joke MSNBC News.
It would be a joke if anyone watched it. But
it's just sort of a left wing primal scream and
the utter hypocrisy of everyone. So much of this was
started by Chuck Todd, and Chuck Todd had this whole screed,
(37:04):
this self righteous, holier than the now screed that he
did on Meet the Press. Now here's an interesting bit
you may not know. Do you know how Chuck Todd
got his start? How was that as a staffer in
nineteen ninety two for the presidential campaign of Senator Tom Harkin,
a Democrat. So Chuck Todd was a Democrat staffer on
(37:24):
a presidential campaign. Mind, you're not just in passing. But
let's go back to Chuck Todd's predecessor, Tim Russert. Tim
Russer the gold standard of Meet the Press, the gold
standard of NBC News. Did you know what Tim Russer
did before he went NBC.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I'm gonna go out and a lemon and say a
Democratic staffer.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
He worked for US Senator Daniel Patrick Boynihan, a Democrat
from New York. He served as special counsel to Daniel
Patrick Boynihan. He served as chief of staff to Daniel
Patrick Boynihan, and then in nineteen eighty three he became
a top aid to New York Governor Mario Cuomo, also
a Democrat. So he was a senior Democrat staffer over
(38:04):
and over again for multiple Democrats, and then he went
to NBC News. Let's fast forward George Stephanopolis. Where did
George Stephanopolis make his name as a senior press hack
for the Clinton White House? He was a political staffer
his entire life. By the way, he's the premier political
commentator at ABC now. And let's not forget Jen Saki
(38:26):
happily ensconced at MSNBC. She was, of course Joe Biden's
White House Press secretary. She stood up there and spin,
baby spin, baby spin, and she got hired basically straight
from the White House, where she continues to do the
same job. She is still, as far as I'm concerned,
the White House Press secretary. She's actually a much better
press secretary than Kareem John Pierre. Why because Kring John
(38:48):
Pierre is not very good at her job. All she
does is lie. To Sak's credit, she actually rarely directly lied.
She just pivoted, she circled back, she spun, but she
rarely made flat out, demonstrably provable falsehoods, whereas Krane John
Pierre seems to do so on an almost daily basis.
(39:08):
But the entirety of that, understand, the position of NBC
is essentially, we cannot tolerate an actual Republican who works
for us. And by the way, there were a few
folks who got online and they said, no, no, no, that's
not true. That's not true. That's not true. Because Nicole
(39:29):
Wallace is on MSNBC and she was a Republican staffer,
and Joe Scarborough he was a Republican congressman. Well that's true,
they were in a prior life Republicans, but both Nicole
Wallace and Joe Scarboro voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
So the position of NBC News is we cannot actually
(39:53):
hire anybody who voted for Donald Trump. As long as
you vote for Democrats, you could have been a Republican
long in your distant life, but you must have abandoned
half of the country and decided they're evil deplorables. Those
are the only people we are willing to hire.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Welcome to MSNBC and NBC News as you described it.
And again I'm not a big person advocating or supporting,
like oh, sue somebody, but I hope she gets a
big payday the way they treat her, and apparently she
found out she was fired through media reports, not even
from a phone call from NBC News. I hope that
she gets a huge payout from this. She deserves every
(40:32):
dime after watching her colleagues run her name through the
mud the way they did and treat her the way
they did.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So and let me make an important point on this.
So MSNBC has a niche as a hard left network,
that's why they have so few viewers.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But they're hard left.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Let me ask you something, Why does NBC I mean,
and what NBC pretends to actually be a real journalistic outfit.
Why do they have a subsidiary that is just a
hard left platform. By the way, they all decry Fox News,
but MSNBC is hard left, unapologetically so. And by the way,
(41:10):
you know what the MS stands for Microsoft. Why exactly
is Microsoft funding hard left propaganda? Why is NBC? Why
are they okay with a network that has an explicit
ideological agenda? And one of the points to understand, it
was NBC News that hired Ron McDaniel. And I'm going
(41:34):
to make the case to you there is no difference
between MSNBC and NBC. They are one and the same.
NBC no longer pretends to be journalists. They are advocates.
They are MSNBC. They are the left wing of the
Democrat Party. There's a reason, by the way, in the
last presidential cycle they were thrown out of moderating because
(41:54):
they're so hardcore and partisan. Now, I guess somebody in
their corporate leader ship decided they wanted to at least
have a nod of have somebody on the staff who
had voted with half of the country. But let me
ask you, Ben, so you actually have been a paid
conservative at a left wing network at CNN, you were
(42:17):
paid for a number of years. What was that like then,
and give us your perspectives from having been in Rana's shoes,
although at a different time.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's funny that you asked this because I was doing
out Numbered, hosting out Numbered on I think it was
Wednesday when this story broke and they came to me.
They're like, look, you've got an instume perspective. I said, yeah,
I was hired for My contract was extended when I
was at CN and I was there totally seven years,
but the last year was just and this is how
(42:47):
much it even changed at CNN. They used to want
when they when Jeff Zecker took over a Grand Debate,
they wanted conservatives to have people that they thought were
well representing them so that consertaives wouldn't you know, basically
immediately skip over the channel one Stunnald Trump one in
sixteen Wills came off at CNN they hated him. They
(43:08):
hated and they yelled and screamed and tried to turn
you into bigot, racist homophobes NFOI everything they could and
try to ruin your career when you were on because
the couldn't yell at Trump, but they could yell at
you and you were supporting Trump or defending Trump. But
in the last year that I was there, they hired
me just to have my name on a piece of
paper as it get out a free jail card when
(43:28):
someone said you guys have no conservatives, and they would
say no, no, no, no, no, look over here, we have
Ben Ferguson. In my last year, I did two appearances
on CNN. Now that's absurd from a financial standpoint. If
you were a financial person, why would you hire a guy,
give him a salary and only have him come to
work two days out of three hundred and sixty five
days in a year. One of those two appearances was
(43:51):
after the Hollywood Reporter did a story about me being benched,
and then they put me on the next day on
a Saturday, for four minutes, just to say no, see
he's not benched. We just used him today, and then
never used me again, and with Ronald McDowell. I have
to say with her, I think that's part of what
(44:12):
they wanted. They wanted to go into this election cycle
saying noo, we've got a token concern. This lady just
ran the RNC. We see we're not biased. We've got
her on the air.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
By the way, and i'll tell you Jensaki, So as
Verdict listeners know, my latest book, Unwoke, How to Defeat
Cultural Marxism in America. When it came out, I did
a ton of radio interviews. We actually called an offer
to go on Jensaki show. She said no, no, we
don't want you. We don't that they're and by the way,
the view also turned me down. So the last two
(44:45):
books I did previously, I went on the view for
both of them, and and look I.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
And the ratings were huge.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
When the ratings were massive, and and and I don't
think it is an overstatement to say it did not
go well for the host because they didn't know what
they were talking about. And I pointed out they didn't
know what they were talking about. Look with with Whoopy Goldberg,
when I went on for my book Justice Corrupted, How
(45:12):
how the Left is weaponized the legal system. I went on,
and all the hosts of the view begin screaming at me,
and they're like, you know, you Republicans are all election deniers,
election deniers, and and they're used to everyone who agrees
with them, so they think that that's just like a
kill shot. And I said, oh, you mean like when
when Hillary Clinton insisted that she won and that Donald
(45:33):
Trump's election was illegitimate. She said she didn't say that,
so I had the quote and I read it out loud,
or I said, do you mean when when Al Gore
said that George W. Bush was illegitimately elected and the
election was stolen from him? Or do you mean like
when Stacy Abrams said that she was the governor of
Georgia and that there was illegitimate or do you mean
like when Joe Biden said George W. Bush was illegitimate elected.
(45:56):
I just read quote after quote after quote. They'd never
heard any of them, by the way. What we later
they had Chelsea Clinton on to say, my mother never
said that quote that she's on TV saying, and that
I read verbatim. But then the next exchange with Whoopy
was really interesting because after saying election denial, which is
their sort of first response. Then she said, and you
guys are all a bunch of angry, rioting criminals, to
(46:21):
which I laughed and said, really, you mean what about
the entire year of Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots
that burned American cities across this country for a year,
And Whoopy looks at me, completely confused, and she says,
I don't know what an antifa riot is. I have
no idea what that is. And it was they're in
(46:45):
such an echo chamber they will only talk to people
who agree to them, and sadly they're a couple of million,
mostly women watching the view who are just listening to
partisan propaganda. And then there were there are no Antifa riots.
That doesn't exist. And by the way, for the last
book Unwoke, the View said Nope, we don't want you.
(47:07):
And that didn't go well for us at all. And Jensaki,
who I've never been on her show, you would think
she might be interested. And by the way, I'm perfectly
happy her to come attack me and scream and be
a crazy nut if she wanted to. I mean, I
was not expecting a love fest, but their view was sorry, no,
we don't want you on it all. We have one
view and we will never ever ever have anything to
(47:28):
the contrary. That is MSNBC and apparently that's NBC two.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah, great point. Don't forget. We did this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
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Welcome its verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
it is the day after Easter, but the White House
wouldn't want you to know that Easter even happened on Sunday.
They were too obsessed with making sure that everybody knew
about the see everybody that's transgender day.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, listen, I hope everyone had a wonderful and blessed
Easter yesterday. I hope you had a weekend with your
family where you gave thanks to God for God's blessings.
And I got to say, right in the middle of it,
seeing the Biden White House say essentially Easter doesn't happen
in this White House, that they're woke priorities Trump and
any recognition of Christianity or even acknowledgment of Christianity is
(00:42):
really sad. We're also going to talk in this episode
today about California's new twenty dollars minimum wage law, which
sadly has had having exactly the predicted effect of causing
thousands upon thousands of workers to lose their job. Fast
food restaurants all across California are laying off workers because
woke politicians do not understand basic supply and demand. And third,
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News saying essentially, Republicans need not apply. We are a
Democrat only network. And actually, for a brief moment, the
network big wigs tried to hire a Republican and their
on air talent all left wing Democrats, lost their minds
lit their hair on fire, and immediately the network execs
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It's a day that I love on Sunday because the
(03:15):
world stops and that doesn't happen very often, and Christians
all over the world come together to celebrate the resurrection
of Jesus Christ. It is a day when you see
people come to church at staggering numbers, uh and come
together as families. But you look at the White House
and you go to White House dot gov, they had
(03:37):
a very different message for Americans. In fact, they tried
to hijack I would argue Easter altogether for another woke moment.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, that's exactly right. The White House put out an
announcement on Friday, on Good Friday that that that that
read quote. Now, therefore, I, Joseph Arbiden, Junior President of
the United States, by virtue of the authority vested in
me by the Constitution and the Laws of the United States,
do hereby proclaim marks thirty first, twenty twenty four as
Transgender Day of Visibility. Sunday was Easter Sunday. Yeah, look, look,
(04:14):
listen as a Christian that there is no more important
day in the calendar Listen, Christmas is a wonderful celebration
of Jesus' birth, but at the end of the day,
the entirety of Christianity is about Jesus' crucifixion on Good
Friday and his resurrection on Easter. Obviously not on those
exact days, but those are the days we celebrate his
(04:35):
dying for our sins. And I got to say, for
the White House to decide, you know, Easter is not
really important. The only thing that matters to us is
our politics, and nothing matters more than's transgender Day of
Visibility like that that that's truly stunning.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Not only is it stunning, but it's also one of
those moments and people that have not been around a
White House. This is not by accident. And there were
even some people going, look, you guys are of reacting
AKA Christians, they're just acknowledging. They didn't create this day, right,
The President is acknowledging this transgender visibility day. And this
(05:15):
could have been just you know, doing two things at once,
and they're not really they're not really overlooking Easter. I
don't believe that for a moment. This is me personally
saying that I think this was a deliberate moved by
this White House to spit in the face of Christians
and to say to younger voters that maybe don't believe
in God and the extremists on the Democratic side, hey,
(05:36):
we are your party. I think this was deliberate for
November because they're trying to shure up younger voters are
saying they may stay home and not vote for Joe Biden. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
See, I guess I disagree with you on that, Ben.
I don't really think this was like a overt political decision.
I think the senior officials at the White House, most
of them have no idea it's Easter. I think they
are so second I think faith is so distant from
their lives that it doesn't even occur to them. I
don't think they had a warning sign.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It reminds me of you remember a couple of years
ago when Jill Biden was down in San Antonio, Texas,
and she was speaking at a LATINX conference. Oh yeah,
and in her remark she said that that that that
that Hispanics are as diverse as breakfast tacos, which was
so utterly offensive. My response immediately was, well, I'm a
(06:30):
jonag and chee, so thank you, Jill, and it truly is.
But what was interesting about that, what was revealing about
that it was not a gaff. It was not an
off the cuff comment, that's the sort of thing Joe
Biden might say off the cuff. It was written in
her remarks, which means the political office at the White
(06:51):
House signed off on it. And they are so woke
that to them being condescending to Latinos who they want
to call latinx. And by the way, anyone who uses
the word LATINX, I promise you is not a Latino
and not a Latina. They are a rich white liberal
and to them it sounds perfectly perfectly normal to say,
(07:13):
you cute little Latinxes are as diverse as Tacos. I
think it's the same sort of thing here. They put
this out and and all of them, I actually think
they're home celebrating transgender Day of Visibility. They're they're not
not really aware it's Easter. I guess they know that
there there are a lot of bunny rabbits around for
some reason, but I don't know that they could tell
(07:34):
you why.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
All right, so let me ask you this let's go
with your theory for a second, because there's a there's
definitely a chance that you're correct on this. But the
White House spoken.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And the truth is probably the truth is probably some
of both, it is, but but the question is which
is the predominant one. And I lean to there just
being that oblivious that they don't even realize they don't
know any person of faith who actually celebrates Easter, so
it doesn't occur to them that there's anything offensive about
(08:05):
what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
All right, So let's talk about the double down, because
the White House spokesman John Pierre doubled down after President
Joe Biden declared Easter Sunday Transgender Day of Visibility. She
put a statement out on xt Saturday, following the backlash
to Biden's animated affirmation of the controversial quote holiday that
happens to me on the same day as the holiest
Christian holiday that we have on the calendar. Quote on
(08:29):
Transgender Day of Visibility. The Biden Heri's administration honors the
extraordinary courage and contributions of transgender Americans and reaffirms our
nation's commitment to forming him are more perfect union where
all people are treated equally. That is what she put
on X on Saturday. Do you think they just doubled
down because they had no choice? It was like, all right,
(08:51):
we look like idiots. We've just offitted a ton of
Christians and people of faith this country who basically just
spit in their face. So this will be our way
of saying, hey, we're kind of doing two things at once.
Calm down.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So I don't think they know anyone they offended. I
think they view anyone who would be offended as a
deplorable So it's I genuinely believe there was not a
person in this White House who was offended. And most
of them would tell you, I think they don't know
anyone that they if they have a family member, they
think they're an ignorant family member they don't talk to anymore.
(09:24):
And listen, I'll tell you what I was actually more
okay the two things on this number one, I put
out a statement as it did a lot of people
pointing out how ridiculous this was, and I put it
out on AX, and it was interesting all the lefties
who responded to me. There were a bunch of them
that said, weh, no, no, it just transgender Day. Of
visibility happened to occur this Sunday. It's not our fault
(09:47):
that Easter coincided with what is clearly this day is
transgender Day. And it was kind of like, Okay, I'm
not sure about this holiday you're talking about, but Easter
spin around a couple thousand and years. It's like they
treat Easter like, who is this interloper that dare land
in the midst of our celebration. But let me say
(10:10):
something else that actually I found even more offensive, which
is every year the White House has an Easter egg roll.
And the Easter egg Roll is a fun event, and
you know, you have a lot of people who take
their kids there and they have Easter eggs and that
they're wooden and they're painted, they're really neat, and there's
a contest for kids. Well, the Biden White House has
(10:30):
a contest for kids to paint Easter eggs. And they
had a flyer describing what the kids must do. And
here's what the flyer for the content said. An Easter
egg design submission quote must not include any questionable content,
religious symbols, overtly religious themes, or partisan political statements. So
(10:55):
understand and by the way. This is on behalf of
first Lady Jill Biden. Surprised you didn't call it the
LATINX Easter egg roll. They invite people there and understand
they want you to paint Easter eggs that, according to
their dictate, have nothing to do with Easter. They literally prohibit,
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they say, any religious themes, symbols, or content on a
celebration of Easter.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Rights, yeah, cross would be overly religious. The words?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
All right, what are the most common three words that
any Christian says on Easter? He has he has risen?
And what does everyone respond? He has risen? Indeed, I
sat down, I texted a whole bunch of my friends
today and and and and texted them scriptures. But he
has risen. So according to the Biden rules, you're not
allowed to put he has risen. You are allowed to
(11:48):
put an Easter bunny. Uh, you are allowed to put
something utterly secular. And and look what I find grotesquely offensive?
Is I listen? This White House puts out celebrations of
Rashashan on Jan kupor, as they should on the Jewish holidays.
Do they have a rule no Jewish symbols on the
Jewish high holidays. They celebrate Ramadan. What are the odds
(12:12):
you think on Ramadan? They say, nope, you cannot say
anything Muslim on Ramadan, like Easter is a Christian holiday.
And these bastards, I mean this, it really does. They're
telling children when you celebrate Easter at the White House,
it cannot actually be Easter.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, I rarely, and I'm going to ask your permission.
I know what the answer is going to be. But
I don't share our texts, but I'd like to read
part of your text today that you mentioned. Is that
Is that okay?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Sure? So one of the scriptures that you sent in
a text that I got from you, it says he
is not there, he has risen. Remember how he told
you while he was still with you in Galilee, the
son of Man must be delivered over to the hands
of sinners, be crucified, and on the third day be
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raised again Luke twenty four six through seven. Now I
love that verse and you sent it to me this morning.
Thank you for that, by the way. And it was
one that I was thinking about that kids learn. In fact,
my kids in school learned Luke twenty four six and
seven this week. It was their memory verse. What if
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a kid wanted to put that on an egg? My
kid would have thought of that, right, because this is
part of the holiday, and they would have been I
guess disqualified or not even be allowed in the Easter
egg art contest of the White House because that would
be religious texts, which would be I guess extremism in
the eyes of the White House.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So let me read more of the White House's official guidance.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Selected designs representing the unique experiences and stories of National
Guard children will be brought to life on real hend
eggs by talented egg artists from across the country and
display at the White House this Easter and Passover season.
Children can't promote material that promotes quote bigotry, racism, hatred,
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or harm against any group or individual. Okay, I'm good
with all that. You shouldn't be promoting that or promotes
discrimination based on race, gender, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation,
or age. So under their definition, anything that acknowledges Christianity
presumably is promoting discrimination based on religion. If you quote
Jesus as saying, I'm the way the truth in the life.
(14:31):
No man comes to the Father but by me. That
according to the White House rules. Nope, you're not allowed
to acknowledge it on Easter. Easter is the celebration. Why
are we having a holiday? Do we just somehow think
bunny rabbits lay eggs?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
What is the purpose of this event? And that level
there is.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
A can we call it that towards Christians? That's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It is abiding hate for people of faith generally, but
especially for Christians. And that's true for Catholics, that's true
for Evangelicals, it's true. Look, if you celebrated Easter, I
mean I want to ask you if you were asked, hey,
do you want to paint an egg for the White House?
And would it occur to you if it was an
(15:19):
Easter egg to say something about what the holiday is about? Well,
that is prohibited under the rules from this White House.
I got to say that really pisses me off.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
This also makes me go back to when people said
that conservatives like myself. I don't know if you've ever
tweet something like this, So I'll ask you. You know
when several years ago when we talk about I say Christmas,
the real meaning of Christmas under attack and people are
trying to take Christ out of Christmas, and then the
left is like, you guys are crazy, You're paranoid, you're
(15:53):
radical extremists. Christians, no one's trying to take Christ out
of Christmas and the slippery and then you fast forward
to this Easter. The White House is saying nothing religious
on the Easter eggs. We're making, you know, Eastern the
same as Transgender Visibility Day. And I'm sitting there going, see,
I'm not crazy. I know what you're doing, and I'm
(16:14):
watching it and I'm calling you out on it. And
you guys don't understand that we understand when we should
be offended by what you're trying to do, which is
have Christmas without Christ, have Easter without the Resurrection.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So I'll tell you in the Senate, I mean, there's
a consistent divide. Democrats won't say Merry Christmas. It is
only Republicans. And actually when you say Marry Christmas, you
almost feel like a crazy rebel. I mean, I mean
it is a bizarre you know, it's it's happy holidays,
but you're kind of like, gee, what what is the
holiday you're you're celebrating And by the way, look for
(16:49):
my Jewish friends when they're celebrating Jewish holidays. I am
happy to wish them the best celebrating holidays that are
important to their faith. But but but as a Christian,
I celebrate Christmas, I celebrate Easter. And for the left,
look that they're antagonistic to faith across the board. But
there is a particular vitriol, hatred, antagonism, resentment, all of
(17:14):
those are there to Christianity in particular, which is why
they literally want to erase Christ from Christmas. It's apparently
about a fat guy in a sleigh, and they want
to erase Christ from Easter. It's apparently about bunny rabbits
and eggs.
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There are tons of warnings and data points and history
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that back up that when you mandate ridiculous wages, it
ends up hurting the people that you claim you're helping
the most. Specifically on big increases in minimum wage. Now,
the federal government has a minimum wage, but states have
gone to another level mandating higher wages. Fast forward to California.
(20:02):
They have the highest unemployment rate of any state in
America right now, and they've just gone and pushed their
twenty dollars minimum wage. When it comes to fast food workers,
they did this and guess what happened over eight hundred
For example, pizza delivery drivers got noticed that they were
being laid off and they deliver for Pizza Hut because
(20:24):
it is unsustainable to pay twenty dollars an hour to
deliver pizzas, and yet Democrats are still cheering on this insanity.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Well, it's a lot more than that. So this new
law goes into effect today Monday, and it is twenty
dollars an hour for fast food workers at chains with
more than sixty locations in the United.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
States, now in California, in the in the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And by the way, that is a twenty five percent
increase from the old minimum wage of sixteen dollars an
hour in California. And the layoffs have been massive and
far reaching. So Pizza Hut laid off more than one
tho two hundred delivery workers that was in Pizza Hut.
(21:14):
Round Table Pizza chain of about four hundred locations, said
it will lay off one two and eighty delivery workers.
Ex Caliber Pizza, one of his franchises, has plans to
cut seventy three drivers workers, twenty percent of its workforce.
And by the way, McDonald's, Chipotle, Jack in the Box
and other change say, what they're going to do is
raise the menu prices to offset the costs. By the
(21:37):
way they're doing more so, California based El Poyo Loco
has told investors. It is automating some of its salsa
making to mitigate minimum wage rises. Jack in the Box
is testing friar robots and automatic drink dispensers. And understand,
none of this is surprising. This is to be predicted.
(22:03):
In California. There are roughly five hundred and fifty seven
thousand fast food workers and they're about thirty thousand restaurants
in California. This minimum wage increase is going to drive
some of those restaurants out of business. Some of them
will go broke. When they go broke, all of their
employees will lose their jobs, both the minimum wage employees
and the higher ones, the managers. Everyone will lose their
(22:24):
job when the restaurants go broke. The ones that don't
go broke, we are seeing literally thousands upon thousands of
people being fired. And by the way, the pizza places,
what they're saying they're gonna do is they're going to
use door Dash and Uber Eats. They're just gonna use
third party apps, and they're they're firing all their drivers.
So and it's interesting that that there was a quote.
(22:45):
There's an article in the Daily Mayor Male that quotes
quotes one guy Michael o'heeda, twenty nine, who's a pizza
Hunt driver in Ontario, California, and he said he received
a notice from his pizza Hunt franchisee in December warming
him that his last day would be in February. And
here's his quote, Pizza Hutt was my career for nearly
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a decade, and with little to no notice, it was
taken away. Well, there are consequences when you elect radical
democrats in California has done it across the board. They
have every state wide elected officials a Democrat. They have
super majorities in both houses of the legislature. And understand,
over and over and over again, when you jack up
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the minimum wage, this is what happens. And one of
the things I like to do when people say, well,
we want a twenty dollars minimum wage that helps people, Okay, Well,
if it helps people, why would you stop at twenty?
Why not fifty dollars an hour? Why not a hundred?
Why not one thousand dollars an hour? Let's pass a
law that everyone must be paid at least one thousand
dollars an hour. Wouldn't that magically mean that money would
(23:48):
rain into the hands of everyone isn't that how it
works been.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Apparently, if if you've never been to school and you
don't know how the economy, how economy work, and how
inflation works, and yet you have warnings. We've seen this
time and time again. There are professors that will come
out and say, when you increase sinum wage, you think
you're helping people, but in reality, the costs of basic
food and milk and bread and all these things go up,
(24:13):
so it actually takes more money out of their pocket.
And yet they still keep doing it. And this on
top of the fact that they already had the highest
unemployment rate of any state in America right now, this
is only going to make it not just a little
bit worse, a lot worse.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So let me tell you, Ben, I spend a lot
of time actually talking to small business owners and restaurant
tours in particular. I love restaurant tours, and I tell
whether it's Burger King franchises or Mexican restaurants or also
I meat up with all sorts of restaurant owners, both
in Texas and when they come to Washington.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And one of the things I explain it when you
say restaurant tour, because I don't think people understand exactly
what that means.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
It's someone who owns a restaurant. Someone who owns a restaurant,
and sometimes they have one restaurant. Sometimes they'll have a
dozen Jack in the Boxes or a dozen Burger Kings,
or But when I meet with restaurant owners, one of
the things I tell them all the time is I say, listen,
you may think you're in the food business, but I
(25:14):
actually don't think you're in the food business. You're in
the opportunity business. Because for millions and millions of Americans,
their first job is in a restaurant. And one of
the things I do all the time, Ben when I'm
at a town hall, I've got, you know, three four
hundred people in a room, I'll ask them how many
people in this room have ever worked at a restaurant. Inevitably,
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about half the hands in the room go up. Now,
the argument lefties say is, well, you know, if you're
making ten bucks an hour flipping burgers, you can't feed
a family of four on ten bucks an hour. And
you know what, they're right, It's actually very hard to
feed a family of four on ten bucks an hour.
Here's the problem. Most people are not feeding a family
(25:59):
of fourping burgers. What happens and what restaurants are all
about is they're often the entry level job. So you
get a lot of teenagers, You get a lot of sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
nineteen year old it's their first job, and they learn skills.
They learn to show up. They learned to show up
on time that they learned to interact with customers, they
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learned to make change, they learned to work hard, they
learned to be disciplined, all of the skills that enable
them to get promoted. So very few people spend their
entire career flipping burgers at ten bucks an hour. That's
an entry level job. And by the way, if you
do it and do a good job, you almost inevitably
get promoted. So let me give a personal story from
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my family background. When my dad came from Cuba, it
was nineteen fifty seven and he came to Texas. He
was eighteen. He had nothing, he was broke, and he
couldn't speak English. So the very first job he got
was washing dishes at a restaurant and he made fifty
cents an hour. Now why did he get that job?
Because he couldn't speak English and a lot of jobs.
(27:06):
Most jobs in Texas at the time in nineteen fifty
seven you had to speak English. You didn't have to
speak English to wash a dish. So that's what he
could do with the skill set he had at that time. Now,
I will point out that by the time that he
and my mom had me, he wasn't making fifty cents
an hour anymore. But his first job let him get started.
And by the way, he was a freshman at ut
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that money at the time he paid his way through school.
But what happened is very quickly thereafter he started learning English,
and when he learned English, she got promoted. His second
job was at the same restaurant, and it was as
a cook, and a second job, he made eighty cents
an hour. Now he thought a cook was a much
(27:50):
better job than a dishwasher, and it was an eighty
cents an hour was a lot better than fifty cents
an hour. His next job after that was as a
teaching assistant at University at Texas, teaching undergrad's math, and
his next job after that was as a computer programmer
at IBM. But he doesn't get those subsequent jobs without
that first job washing dishes, and the left doesn't get
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that when you do this, the people who are being
laid off, by the way, are predominantly low skilled, low income,
and very young. The majority of people who California just
laid off, the statistics tell us, are very likely to
be Hispanic or African American, to be teenagers with limited skills,
and this was their first job where they were getting skills.
(28:35):
And Democrats are pulling up the ladder and saying, you
don't get to get skills. Instead, you should be unemployed.
But guess what, we got a welfare check for you,
and you can just stop working right now because we'll
pay you as long as you vote Democrat.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Here's my question, and it comes back to California really
full circle. You have all these people that are laid off.
I wonder how many of them will not vote for
Democrats next time number one or two. They just say, Okay,
it is what it is, and I'll get some free
cash for a little bit and then I'll find another job.
(29:10):
Or is there gonna be a turning point do you
think center where it gets so bad with the absurdity
of twenty dollars an hour, twenty five an hour, whatever
it is and the sustainability of it, that there's no
other way but for people's eyes to be open. I
just don't have a lot of confidence.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, look, I don't know, and I suspect it will
be some of both. So one of the things, again
that a lot of Democrats don't understand, is that in
any business you have a trade off between labor and capital,
and so you have a choice which one to invest in.
So the example I use when my dad was washing
dishes making fifty cents an hour. Thank god, some well
(29:50):
meaning liberal didn't come along and pass a two dollars
minimum wage law. Now they might have said, I want
to help those poor people making fifty cent an hour,
so I'm gonna mandate you cannot pay anyone less than
two dollars an hour. You know what they would have done.
They would have fired my father. Yeah, and they would
have bought a dishwasher. That you have a trade off
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do you use labor or do you use capital. Notice
when I was going through in California that they're discussing
stores that are that they're looking at automated salsa makers,
that are looking at robotic French fry friars, that are
looking at automated soft drink dispensers. Have you ever been
to a restaurant and ordered an iPad or in a kiosk?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yes, and it's becoming more regular now.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And you know what that is. This is this is
actually ancient history. But I used to describe iPads and
kiosks as a fifteen dollars waitress. Which is what happened
is some well meaning Democrats said you got to pay
people fifteen dollars an hour. And you know what, the
restaurant owner said, I can't stay in business. The math
doesn't work. So I'm gonna fire the waitress. I'm gonna
fire the waiter, and I'm gonna put a piece of
(30:54):
metal and you know what, I have to pay the
piece of metal zero dollars an hour. Now I've got
some upfront capital, but once I put the iPad of
the kioska, I don't have to pay them an hourly wage.
And when you jack up the cost of labor, inevitably
the result is people lose their jobs. And the people
who lose it understand who democrats hurt. They hurt the
(31:18):
most vulnerable. By the way, the same thing is true
when Democrats did shutdowns during COVID when they shut schools down,
the people who got hurt the most were low income kids.
They were African American kids, they were Hispanic kids. The
data show we have the biggest learning gap since we
have been recording learning results. And by the way, the
(31:40):
racial gap grew more during the COVID lockdowns than in
any period in recorded history. So understand, this is what
democrats do. And by the way, if your parents were rich,
guess what the school shut downs. They were inconvenient, but
you could hire a tutor, you had resources. Your kids.
Rich kids didn't fall behind all that much during the lockdowns.
(32:03):
Low income kids if they had a single mom with
three four kids, for millions of them, they essentially didn't
go to school for months and months and months on end.
And again, this is what Democrat policies systematically do. They
hurt the most vulnerable while at the same time they're
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sermonizing about how they want to help the most vulnerable.
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to ask you about saying that happened this last week,
and it was a story that was I was even
shocked by it. The former RNC chairwoman was hired by
NBC News to become a commentator slash NBC News. She
was hired, it came out, and what ended up happening
(34:17):
was virtually every name that was a host of a show,
a big talent at NBC, including me. The press said,
we're not going to work with her, she's a radical
Trump extremist. January sixther We're not going to work with her,
and they literally ripped her on air in a way
(34:39):
that I didn't even think they would do, but they
did it. And here's a montage of just how bad
it was.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Joined by former RNC chair Roni McDaniel in her first
interview since stepping down as party chair. In full disclosure
to our viewers, this interview was scheduled weeks before it
was announced that McDaniel would become a paid NBC News contributor,
will be a news interview and I was not involved
in her hiring.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I think our bosses owe you an apology for putting
you in this situation. And look, there's a reason why
there's a lot of journalists at NBC News uncomfortable with this,
because many of our professional dealings with the RNC over
the last six years have been met with catilating, have
been met with characters fascination.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
We weren't asked our opinion of the hiring, but if
we were, we would have strongly objected to it.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
At NBC News, either wittingly or unwittingly, is teaching election
deniers that what they can do stretches well beyond appearing
on our air and interviews to pedal lies about the
sanctity and integrity of our elections so that they can
do that as one of us, as badge carrying employees
of NBC News, there.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Is an easy way to avoid the controversy NBC News
has stumbled into.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Don't hire anyone close to the crimes.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
She literally backed an illegal scheme to an election in
the state of Mission.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
That is the type of experience that Ronald McDaniel brings
to the table, and that experience does not get us
to a deeper understanding of anything in the public debate.
I want to associate myself with all my colleagues, both
at MSNBC and at NBC News who have voiced loud
and principled objections to our company putting on the payroll
(36:22):
someone who hasn't just attacked us as journalists, but someone
who is part of an ongoing project to get rid
of our system of government.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Senator that was clearly orchestrated by the talent. They were
not going to work with her, and they were going
to ruin her career before it even started.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, look, NBC News sadly is a joke MSNBC News.
It would be a joke if anyone watched it. But
it's just sort of a left wing primal scream and
the utter hypocrisy of everyone. So much of this was
started by Chuck Todd, and Chuck Todd had this whole screed,
(37:04):
this self righteous, holier than the now screed that he
did on Meet the Press. Now here's an interesting bit
you may not know. Do you know how Chuck Todd
got his start? How was that as a staffer in
nineteen ninety two for the presidential campaign of Senator Tom Harkin,
a Democrat. So Chuck Todd was a Democrat staffer on
(37:24):
a presidential campaign. Mind, you're not just in passing. But
let's go back to Chuck Todd's predecessor, Tim Russert. Tim
Russer the gold standard of Meet the Press, the gold
standard of NBC News. Did you know what Tim Russer
did before he went NBC.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I'm gonna go out and a lemon and say a
Democratic staffer.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
He worked for US Senator Daniel Patrick Boynihan, a Democrat
from New York. He served as special counsel to Daniel
Patrick Boynihan. He served as chief of staff to Daniel
Patrick Boynihan, and then in nineteen eighty three he became
a top aid to New York Governor Mario Cuomo, also
a Democrat. So he was a senior Democrat staffer over
(38:04):
and over again for multiple Democrats, and then he went
to NBC News. Let's fast forward George Stephanopolis. Where did
George Stephanopolis make his name as a senior press hack
for the Clinton White House? He was a political staffer
his entire life. By the way, he's the premier political
commentator at ABC now. And let's not forget Jen Saki
(38:26):
happily ensconced at MSNBC. She was, of course Joe Biden's
White House Press secretary. She stood up there and spin,
baby spin, baby spin, and she got hired basically straight
from the White House, where she continues to do the
same job. She is still, as far as I'm concerned,
the White House Press secretary. She's actually a much better
press secretary than Kareem John Pierre. Why because Kring John
(38:48):
Pierre is not very good at her job. All she
does is lie. To Sak's credit, she actually rarely directly lied.
She just pivoted, she circled back, she spun, but she
rarely made flat out, demonstrably provable falsehoods, whereas Krane John
Pierre seems to do so on an almost daily basis.
(39:08):
But the entirety of that, understand, the position of NBC
is essentially, we cannot tolerate an actual Republican who works
for us. And by the way, there were a few
folks who got online and they said, no, no, no, that's
not true. That's not true. That's not true. Because Nicole
(39:29):
Wallace is on MSNBC and she was a Republican staffer,
and Joe Scarborough he was a Republican congressman. Well that's true,
they were in a prior life Republicans, but both Nicole
Wallace and Joe Scarboro voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
So the position of NBC News is we cannot actually
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hire anybody who voted for Donald Trump. As long as
you vote for Democrats, you could have been a Republican
long in your distant life, but you must have abandoned
half of the country and decided they're evil deplorables. Those
are the only people we are willing to hire.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Welcome to MSNBC and NBC News as you described it.
And again I'm not a big person advocating or supporting,
like oh, sue somebody, but I hope she gets a
big payday the way they treat her, and apparently she
found out she was fired through media reports, not even
from a phone call from NBC News. I hope that
she gets a huge payout from this. She deserves every
(40:32):
dime after watching her colleagues run her name through the
mud the way they did and treat her the way
they did.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
So and let me make an important point on this.
So MSNBC has a niche as a hard left network,
that's why they have so few viewers.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But they're hard left.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Let me ask you something, Why does NBC I mean,
and what NBC pretends to actually be a real journalistic outfit.
Why do they have a subsidiary that is just a
hard left platform. By the way, they all decry Fox News,
but MSNBC is hard left, unapologetically so. And by the way,
(41:10):
you know what the MS stands for Microsoft. Why exactly
is Microsoft funding hard left propaganda? Why is NBC? Why
are they okay with a network that has an explicit
ideological agenda? And one of the points to understand, it
was NBC News that hired Ron McDaniel. And I'm going
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to make the case to you there is no difference
between MSNBC and NBC. They are one and the same.
NBC no longer pretends to be journalists. They are advocates.
They are MSNBC. They are the left wing of the
Democrat Party. There's a reason, by the way, in the
last presidential cycle they were thrown out of moderating because
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they're so hardcore and partisan. Now, I guess somebody in
their corporate leader ship decided they wanted to at least
have a nod of have somebody on the staff who
had voted with half of the country. But let me
ask you, Ben, so you actually have been a paid
conservative at a left wing network at CNN, you were
(42:17):
paid for a number of years. What was that like then,
and give us your perspectives from having been in Rana's shoes,
although at a different time.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's funny that you asked this because I was doing
out Numbered, hosting out Numbered on I think it was
Wednesday when this story broke and they came to me.
They're like, look, you've got an instume perspective. I said, yeah,
I was hired for My contract was extended when I
was at CN and I was there totally seven years,
but the last year was just and this is how
(42:47):
much it even changed at CNN. They used to want
when they when Jeff Zecker took over a Grand Debate,
they wanted conservatives to have people that they thought were
well representing them so that consertaives wouldn't you know, basically
immediately skip over the channel one Stunnald Trump one in
sixteen Wills came off at CNN they hated him. They
(43:08):
hated and they yelled and screamed and tried to turn
you into bigot, racist homophobes NFOI everything they could and
try to ruin your career when you were on because
the couldn't yell at Trump, but they could yell at
you and you were supporting Trump or defending Trump. But
in the last year that I was there, they hired
me just to have my name on a piece of
paper as it get out a free jail card when
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someone said you guys have no conservatives, and they would
say no, no, no, no, no, look over here, we have
Ben Ferguson. In my last year, I did two appearances
on CNN. Now that's absurd from a financial standpoint. If
you were a financial person, why would you hire a guy,
give him a salary and only have him come to
work two days out of three hundred and sixty five
days in a year. One of those two appearances was
(43:51):
after the Hollywood Reporter did a story about me being benched,
and then they put me on the next day on
a Saturday, for four minutes, just to say no, see
he's not benched. We just used him today, and then
never used me again, and with Ronald McDowell. I have
to say with her, I think that's part of what
(44:12):
they wanted. They wanted to go into this election cycle
saying noo, we've got a token concern. This lady just
ran the RNC. We see we're not biased. We've got
her on the air.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
By the way, and i'll tell you Jensaki, So as
Verdict listeners know, my latest book, Unwoke, How to Defeat
Cultural Marxism in America. When it came out, I did
a ton of radio interviews. We actually called an offer
to go on Jensaki show. She said no, no, we
don't want you. We don't that they're and by the way,
the view also turned me down. So the last two
(44:45):
books I did previously, I went on the view for
both of them, and and look I.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
And the ratings were huge.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
When the ratings were massive, and and and I don't
think it is an overstatement to say it did not
go well for the host because they didn't know what
they were talking about. And I pointed out they didn't
know what they were talking about. Look with with Whoopy Goldberg,
when I went on for my book Justice Corrupted, How
(45:12):
how the Left is weaponized the legal system. I went on,
and all the hosts of the view begin screaming at me,
and they're like, you know, you Republicans are all election deniers,
election deniers, and and they're used to everyone who agrees
with them, so they think that that's just like a
kill shot. And I said, oh, you mean like when
when Hillary Clinton insisted that she won and that Donald
(45:33):
Trump's election was illegitimate. She said she didn't say that,
so I had the quote and I read it out loud,
or I said, do you mean when when Al Gore
said that George W. Bush was illegitimately elected and the
election was stolen from him? Or do you mean like
when Stacy Abrams said that she was the governor of
Georgia and that there was illegitimate or do you mean
like when Joe Biden said George W. Bush was illegitimate elected.
(45:56):
I just read quote after quote after quote. They'd never
heard any of them, by the way. What we later
they had Chelsea Clinton on to say, my mother never
said that quote that she's on TV saying, and that
I read verbatim. But then the next exchange with Whoopy
was really interesting because after saying election denial, which is
their sort of first response. Then she said, and you
guys are all a bunch of angry, rioting criminals, to
(46:21):
which I laughed and said, really, you mean what about
the entire year of Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots
that burned American cities across this country for a year,
And Whoopy looks at me, completely confused, and she says,
I don't know what an antifa riot is. I have
no idea what that is. And it was they're in
(46:45):
such an echo chamber they will only talk to people
who agree to them, and sadly they're a couple of million,
mostly women watching the view who are just listening to
partisan propaganda. And then there were there are no Antifa riots.
That doesn't exist. And by the way, for the last
book Unwoke, the View said Nope, we don't want you.
(47:07):
And that didn't go well for us at all. And Jensaki,
who I've never been on her show, you would think
she might be interested. And by the way, I'm perfectly
happy her to come attack me and scream and be
a crazy nut if she wanted to. I mean, I
was not expecting a love fest, but their view was sorry, no,
we don't want you on it all. We have one
view and we will never ever ever have anything to
(47:28):
the contrary. That is MSNBC and apparently that's NBC two.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yeah, great point. Don't forget. We did this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
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