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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
We've got a lot to chat about tonight, and including
this bill and funding over the Ukraine War. I want
you to walk us through what happened. But before we
get to that, there is some news that deals with
the impeachment inquiry into the President United States of America,
Joe Biden, and there are people that are giving testimony
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now in a shocking opening statement from Tony Bobolinski. Tony
Bobolinski is someone that knows the Biden crime family. He's
an individual that was a whistleblower before election day to
remind people of that, and then he went and sat
down with the FBI for several hours. He had multiple
electronic communication devices, cell phones, he had documents, he had
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everything about the Biden crime family, and not a single
person ever followed up with him. Not only that, no
one at the DOJ, none of the special prosecutors, none
of those that were investigating at the IRS ever contacted
him for anything that he had about the Biden crime family,
a family that he worked with extensively. He also confirmed
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he had meetings with Joe Biden and then he had
an opening statement today that was remarkable. Tell everybody about
what all he said.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, in his opening statement, here's what Tony Bobolinski said.
And I want you to focus, in particular on how
much he is talking about Joe Biden, not Hunter. The media,
the Democrats want to make it all about Hunter, but
I want you to focus on how much this is
about Joe Biden's personal corruption.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Here's what he said. Quote.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I want to be crystal clear. From my direct personal
experience and what I have subsequently come to learn, it
is clear to me that Joe Biden was quote the
brand being sold by the Biden family, His family's foreign
influence peddling operation from China to Ukraine and elsewhere, sold
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out to foreign actors who were making to gain influence
and access to Joe Biden and the United States government.
He was an enabler, despite being buffered by a complex
scheme to maintain plausible deniability. The only reason any of
these international business transactions took place, with tens of millions
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of dollars flowing directly to the Biden family was because
Joe Biden was in high office. The Biden family business
was Joe Biden period. Other key players have made this
point clear as well. Hunter Biden himself has adamantly stated
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in a variety of communications, as did another Biden family
business associate, Devon Archer, in his testimony last year. Foreign
nationals on the other side of these transactions, including from China, Ukraine,
and Romania, have also explained how and why these transactions
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took place. Once again, I would call that evidence extensive.
And then Babbelinski gets into some details focusing on China. Quote,
the Chinese Communist Party, through its surrogate, China Energy Company
Limited or CEFC, a CCP linked Chinese energy conglomerate, successfully
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sought to infiltrate and compromise Joe Biden and the Obama
Biden Whitehouse. The process started in the fourth quarter of
twenty fifteen and continued through when Joe Biden left office
in January twenty seventeen to March of twenty eighteen, when
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CEFC chairman Ye was detained for corruption in China, never
to be seen again. Note that on October twenty first,
twenty fifteen, Joe Biden announced that he would not seek
the presidency in twenty sixteen. It is not a coincidence
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that CEFC's aggressive approach to the Biden family happened around
that time. It is also not a coincidence that CFC
used the Biden family's weakest link, Hunter Biden, and the
promise of large sums of money to the tune of
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tens of millions of dollars initially and eventually the profits
from investing billions of dollars in the United States and
around the world.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You hear that.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And this opening statement is one that shocked me because
it's clear that Tony Bobolinski is saying I need everyone
to know this. I witnessed it, I saw it, I
was therefore it and no, no one is listening to
what happened here in our government, no one sitting down
and asking any of these questions. Thank you for having
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me to basically Congress to tell you what I've been
trying to tell the American people and the authorities. And
that is the most shocking part of all.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. The six o'clock News doesn't
cover this, The Washington Post doesn't cover this, The New
York Times doesn't cover this. Let me reach you some
more from this opening statement, because every paragraph is a
bombshell it continues quote Joe Biden was aware of the
CEFC transaction, he enabled it, and had a constitutional responsibility
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and obligation to the American people to shut it down
before it began. This is because CEFC had been identified
as a known surrogate of the Chinese Communist Party by
the US government and prosecutors in the Southern District of
New York as far back as twenty sixteen, possibly earlier.
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I would encourage Congress to gather all of the exact
facts and date. It is clear to me that alarm
bell should have been going off of theden the Obama
Biden White House, and that Joe Biden should have been
aware that his own administration had red flag CEFC as
a tool of the Chinese Communist Party. That should have
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made any business transaction with CEFC a non starter. And
let me just stop and say, holy crap. Yes, like like,
I've been in the Senate twelve years, I don't know
a senator, all right. I was about to say, I
don't know a senator who would do that, and then
I thought about Bob Menendez. Yes, I do know a
senator who's currently under indictment for corruption by being approached
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by Egypt. Now Egypt happens to be an ally of ours.
It's not even the Chinese Communist Party. But how the
hell does any sane elected official not just walk away
but turn and run.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, and not just run, but even think want to
report it just to be on the record of like, Hey,
I was approached for this, and I want to make
sure everybody knows that I knew that this was bad
and I didn't want to be.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Involved in it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And yet this is what the Biden family seemed to
be seeking out, which is what Bob Olenski is saying here.
It also goes to another point of reporting before you
read a couple more points in there that he said
in his opening statement. Catherine Heritage, who actually was laid
off within hours of her reporting on how Biden may
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have quote retained sensitive documents related to specific countries involving
his family's foreign business dealings. This coming from the committees.
We've talked with, James Comer, We've talked to Jim Jordan said,
quote the committees require this Biden slash her interview transcript.
There is concern that President Biden may have retained sensitive
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documents related to specific countries involving his famili's foreign business dealings.
That is what she posted on Twitter from these documents
that she got from the committees. And this was a
letter that went to the Honorable Garland from these committees,
and it was simply saying, we believe, from what we've
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been told, the President Biden may have retained these documents
related to these countries involving his family and families foreign
business dealings. And further, the committee says, we seek to
understand whether the White House or President Biden's personal attorneys
placed any limitations or scoping restrictions during the interview that
would have precluded a line of inquiry regarding evidence emails,
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text messages, or witness statements directly linking the president to
troublesome foreign payments. You combine that with what Bob Olenski's saying,
and they line up about one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Well, that's exactly right. And recall that when Robert Hurr
was appointed, we said on this podcast, the tell of
whether DOJ wants to cover up malfeasance by the White
House is whether there's an investigation into the nexus between
the documents, the classified documents that Joe Biden had illegally
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and the foreign entities paying the Biden family tens of
millions of dollars, and as best we can tell, that
was not investigated by DOJ. Now, this is what James
Comer and Jim Jordan are trying to get to the
bottom of to find out what is the connection. And
you know, look, I got to stop and say, Catherine
Herriage has been really a unicorn. She has been a
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reporter for the corporate media for CBS, and she's been
willing to actually report on the Biden corruption. So what
did CBS do today? They laid her off. They fired her.
They said, you know what, we had one person in
our entire staff doing journalism. We've decided we don't need
any journalism at this outlet. You're out of a job.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And by the way, not just amazing journalism, journalism that
was above reproach and a history of it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And you notice, yes, I understand that layoffs happen.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I get that at CBS, but she was someone that
was doing unbelievable reporting at the highest level in Washingt
d C. On the biggest news stories that involve our government.
And just hours after she puts this out there, like yeah,
we're gonna get rid of you too.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I mean, it was three percent of the workforce.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You're telling me you couldn't have kept her in this
very important reporting position.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Give me a break.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, CBS is corrupt. Unfortunately, so is ABC, so is NBC,
so is CNN, so ISMSNBC. They have all abandoned any
pretense of journalism, and they are advocates, and so somehow
Catherine Herridge slipped through the crut cracks and CBS it
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is not accidental that when they're doing layoffs they decide, nope,
we can have noiceent from the orthodoxy. We have a
mission here and that mission, let's be clear, is to
defeat Donald Trump. And everything she was reporting that was
inconvenient to that was contrary to their narrative, and therefore
they let her go.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And they've silenced that narrative now completely by getting rid
of her.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
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Speaker 1 (13:00):
Before we get into.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And I know everybody wants to hear your thoughts on
this Ukraine funding bill that it worked its way through
the Senate, I do want to connect what we just
told the audience about Tony Bobolinsky to something else. It's
also not being covered by the media, and that is
the House Oversight Judiciary committees have released Rob Walker's transcript
as well as their finding that deal a lot more
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with the Chinese Communist parties connection to this Chinese energy
company CEFC and chairman Ye as well as others that
were in attendance with meetings that dealt directly with Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, that's right, and when you combine the two, when
you look at Bobolinsky's opening statement and then you look
at the testimony from Rob Walker, it paints an incredibly
damning picture of Joe Biden's personal complicity. So James Comber
tweeted out a series of tweets specifying exactly what it is,
Rob Walker said. And here's what Comber tweeted out about
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the Bob Walker testimony. Around the time Hunter Biden and
his associates received a three million dollar payment from a
CEFC entity, Joe Biden attended a CEFC meeting at the
Four Seasons in Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
D C.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
CFC chairman Yi Jingmang and other CEFC officials were in attendance.
In other words, let's just take that first tweet, Hunter
Biden's associates get three million dollars at the same time
Joe Biden is personally meeting with the chairman of CEFC,
the Communist Party energy company. Now let's go back to
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what Comer put out. Hunter Biden's associates work with CFC,
a Chinese government linked energy company, began in February twenty sixteen,
when Joe Biden was Vice President of the United States. However,
Hunter Biden and his associates were not paid until after
Joe Biden left office. Rob Walker admitted Hunter Biden's last
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name would quote probably get people in the door, and
he had a letter he drafted to CEFC director Zang
placed on Hunter Biden's letterhead because he was the son
of the vice president at the time, Rob Walker's account,
Robinson Walker LLC, received the three million dollar payment from
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the CFC entity on March first, twenty seventeen. The next day,
he wired one million and sixty five thousand dollars to
James Gilliar, a Biden family associate, and then over the
course of several months, wired incremental payments to the bidens,
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totaling around one million, sixty five thousand dollars. Rob Walker
told investigators Hunter asked him to send incremental payments to
various Biden accounts, including Halle Biden and James Biden, who
were not affiliated with the CEFC deal.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Now, to be clear, this goes back to exactly what
James Comer said to us the last time we sat
down with him, which was this is money laundering. This is, yes,
moving money from accounts to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Accounts, breaking it up in pieces, sending it all over
the place, hiding where it's coming from. That's called money laundering.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, And there is no service that's being rendered by
any of the bidens that are being paid. They're not
selling anything. There's no actual business activities within these accounts.
It's just cleaning the money laundering the money and giving
it to this person and that person with the Biden
last name, funneling all into the Biden crime family. And
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this now back set up without a shadow of a
doubt that this was how they've been running business, not
just for a year or two, this is apparently how
they've been doing business the entire time.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, look at another thing in the Rob Lawucker transcript.
It's not just China, it's Ukraine, it's Russia, it's Romania.
Here here's another portion. During the Obama Biden administration, Hunter Biden,
Rob Walker and James Gillier had a lucrative contract with
Romanian businessmen Gabriel Papa Visiou, who was under investigation. Walker
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was unable to articulate what services the partners provided for.
I don't know, what do you think would be a
good amount for some Romanian businessman to hire the son
of the Vice president.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I mean, I'm assuming you know they like to deal
with millions, right, So let's stick with that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
How about this one hundred and eighty thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, that's how you get to millions real fast.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
One hundred and eighty thousand monthly from Papa issue. The
payments ended abruptly shortly after Joe Biden left the vice presidency.
It ain't subtle, no, not at all. What services did
Hunter provide? Well, those services ended as long as Daddy
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was no longer Vice president.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
By the way, if you just want to do simple
math to put this in perspective of hard working Americans,
they this romanian was paying the Biden family six grand
basically every day.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And you know what, in my experience, people don't give
away money for nothing. They were getting something and it
was not complex legal advice from Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Let's also dive in just for a second, and I
want your opinion Joe Biden over and over again. And
we played the montage in the show before of him
saying I never had anything to do with my son's
business dealings. I never talked business with them. We have
these firewalls between him and me. He also then when
it came to the issues of China, said I never
made it. My family's never made a dime from China.
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We've never done a business with China. I've never made
any money from China. How dare you say that? And
then said you should be looking at Donald Trump and
investigating him, right, that's the line. Not only was he
lying on both of those accounts, he also then had
this lie, which was he never talked business with him,
He never met with any of his been associates. This
is a new dinner we didn't know about. This is
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outside the Cafe Milano dinners that he had with other
people from China as well as from Russia and Romania.
So it looks like the product, which was Joe Biden
and this all deals with his impeachment inquiry, was a
product that had to go to dinner with some of
the shadiest figures in the world to get the money flowing.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well, listen, that's exactly right. What was being sold here,
I believe was not just access, It was favors from
Joe Biden. And what is so striking about the testimony,
about the transcript that was released is how much of
this connects directly to Joe. The corporate media doesn't want
to focus on it, but that of course is exactly
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why the House is open an impeachment inquiry.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, it's going to be important to see exactly what
happens with this moving forward.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
We're going to keep you updated on it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
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so many republic Wilans defected and did this deal with
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spent to secure our southern border, putting Americans last and
putting others first around the world. And this money we
don't have, We're gonna have to borrow this money. We're
gonna have to pay interest on this money. And it
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seems like there's no in insight for the obsession with
sending money to Ukraine. We're sending more money to them
than to Israel as well. Why did so many Democrats
get along so well with so many Republicans on this one?
How is it that so many Republicans can't just stand
their ground.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Well, it's incredibly frustrating. Look, you and I are recording this.
It is ten oh seven pm Texas time on Tuesday night.
I started this day this morning at a little after
five am, voting on the Senate floor. And the reason
we were voting at five am is because Chuck Schumer
had kept the Senate in all night in order to
try to force this vote through, and he succeeded. The
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vote was seventy to twenty nine. In other words, seventy
senators voted yes, twenty nine voted no. All the Democrats
except three voted for the funding bill, and yet there
were just twenty nine of us. I was a no.
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There were twenty nine of US, and that was twenty
six Republicans and three Democrats who voted no. And listen,
my reasons for voting no. We've talked about at length,
but it's worth revisiting. There are elements of this bill
that I support. There are even elements of this bill
that I strongly support. So for example, this bill includes
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emergency military funding for Israel. I think that is incredibly important.
I think we should have passed that months ago. This
bill includes funding to help Taiwan defend itself against communist China.
I think that is very important for US national security.
Most notably, this bill contains tens of billions of dollars
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of funding for Ukraine. Now, my views on that are mixed.
I think it is very important that Russia lose and
Putin loses, and there are certainly circumstances in which I
would be willing to support military funding for Ukraine to
stop Russia because I think that's in the United States's interest. However,
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just a couple of months ago, every single Republican in
the Senate we stood united, and we made a united stand.
We said, we will not fund additional money for Ukraine
unlessen until we secure our own border. That we're not
going to spend billions to secure the border of another
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nation until America secures our border. And we're not going
to spend billions to stop the invasion of another country
until we stop the invasion of our own country. Now,
when I said that, I meant it. Unfortunately, I think
for a lot of my colleagues they did not, because,
as you know, what happened was Chuck Schumer and the
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Democrats refused to negotiate and agree to meaningful border security. Instead,
they demanded a bill that in many ways would have
made the border crisis worse, would have codified Joe Biden's
open borders, and when as soon as the bill TECHS
was released, they negotiated in secret. Within twenty four hours,
the bill had collapse because everyone reading it realized it
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was a terrible bill. What Republican leadership did next, I
think was indefensible. They said, Okay, well, a few people
don't like Chuck Chuck Schumer's open border proposal, then never mind,
we'll just pass all the funding with nothing on.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
The border at all.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I think that is an absurd position, But unfortunately seventy
senators just cast a vote that way.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
So what happens now, because what we're hearing is that
this could move the House side Speaker Johnson has indicated.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
No or probably not, This isn't going to happen.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And then now Democrats, apparently Kim Jeffreys is saying, all right, well,
they're going to get together and they're going to get
a game planned or basically ram this down everyone's throat.
What would that look like and what does that mean
moving forward? On top of the fact that the House
majority for Republicans just got slimmer as well tonight because
we've lost a special election.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well that's exactly right. Look, if it is up to
House leadership, if it's up to the Speaker of the House,
this bill will not pass. The Speaker has said so
unequivocally that the House is not going to take up
and pass any military funding for Ukraine unlessen until it
contained serious and meaningful border security. And by the way,
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the House has already passed strong border security legislation, that
is HR two. The House passed that months ago. Chuck
Schumer refused to take it up. I entered STATEHR two
in the Senate. I'm the author of HR two in
the United States Senate. I had it as an amendment
to this bill. And by the way, I was clear.
I said, you know what, if we pass HR two,
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I'll vote for this bill. If we pass strong legislation
that forces Joe Biden to secure the border, I'm on board.
And Schumer said, not just no, but hell no. Refused
to allow a vote on HR two. When we were
voting this morning, I was trying very hard to get
a vote. Schumer locked down and blocked every single amendment vote.
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What I expect Republican leadership in the House to do
is to take up this bill and to attach strong
border security to it and then send it back to
the Senate. That's what I think is likely to happen.
There is a chance, and you referenced it. There's some
Democrats talking about trying to do what's called a discharge petition,
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which is all the House Democrats teaming up with a
handful of haw GISs Republicans to basically overrule the Speaker
of the House and force the bill onto the floor.
I don't think that will happen, and it is the
sort of move that would be just absolute rebellion by
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the rank and file Republican members. And but that is
really what Mitch mcconnlin Chuck Schumer's plan is, is to
try to use this bill to directly attack the Republican
speaker of the House. And I got to say, Ben,
I don't understand why Senate Republican leadership is trying to
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lead the attack on House Republican leadership.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, one final question this what was in it for
Republicans that just caved on this. I mean, I know,
and I'm cynical because I've been around it probably too long,
and you're probably you see it every day, so you're
cynical too. I'm like, all right, so what did you
get like to make you not listen to the American
people and just go along with this? What was the
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incentive of there to side with the Democrats?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
So so let me be a little more forgiving in
this sense. You know, there are folks that said, what
did they get? They're compromised. Look, in my experience, that's
not how Washington works. I don't think there's anybody with
a folder of people having, you know, sexual relations with
barnyard animals. And I don't think this is compromant. I
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don't think it's And I also don't think for the
people who voted for this that what did they get?
I don't think that they're like the Biden family in
terms of making millions of dollars off of this. I
don't think that's why it happened, At least among the Republicans.
I think a great many of them passionately believe that
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it is in America's interest for Ukraine to beat Russia.
And I understand that sentiment. I think Russia's winning this
war would be very, very bad for America and over
the long term would be much more expensive for American
te payers than it would be to defeat Russia and Ukraine.
So want I want Russia to lose. And I think
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it's combined with there are a lot of Republican senators
that basically they don't like a fight, and in any
given fight, when you ask them, all right, let's hold
the line and say we won't do this unless we
get real border security, they look at you and say, well,
Chuck Schumer would never do that. And I don't understand
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why they expect Chuck Schumer to stand strong and never blink,
and yet their solution is always, well, therefore, we got
to give Schumer what he wants. But that's temperamentally the
view of far too many Republicans in Congress.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, it's going to be a tough year for the Republicans,
especially on the House side, as their majority has gotten
even slimmer after we have lost a special election in
New York today as well. We're going to keep you
updated on all this, especially on what's happening with a
Biden crime family and these new testimony and documents coming
out in the impeachment inquiry of the President United States
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
We've got a lot to chat about tonight, and including
this bill and funding over the Ukraine War. I want
you to walk us through what happened. But before we
get to that, there is some news that deals with
the impeachment inquiry into the President United States of America,
Joe Biden, and there are people that are giving testimony
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now in a shocking opening statement from Tony Bobolinski. Tony
Bobolinski is someone that knows the Biden crime family. He's
an individual that was a whistleblower before election day to
remind people of that, and then he went and sat
down with the FBI for several hours. He had multiple
electronic communication devices, cell phones, he had documents, he had
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everything about the Biden crime family, and not a single
person ever followed up with him. Not only that, no
one at the DOJ, none of the special prosecutors, none
of those that were investigating at the IRS ever contacted
him for anything that he had about the Biden crime family,
a family that he worked with extensively. He also confirmed
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he had meetings with Joe Biden and then he had
an opening statement today that was remarkable. Tell everybody about
what all he said.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, in his opening statement, here's what Tony Bobolinski said.
And I want you to focus, in particular on how
much he is talking about Joe Biden, not Hunter. The media,
the Democrats want to make it all about Hunter, but
I want you to focus on how much this is
about Joe Biden's personal corruption.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Here's what he said. Quote.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I want to be crystal clear. From my direct personal
experience and what I have subsequently come to learn, it
is clear to me that Joe Biden was quote the
brand being sold by the Biden family, His family's foreign
influence peddling operation from China to Ukraine and elsewhere, sold
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out to foreign actors who were making to gain influence
and access to Joe Biden and the United States government.
He was an enabler, despite being buffered by a complex
scheme to maintain plausible deniability. The only reason any of
these international business transactions took place, with tens of millions
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of dollars flowing directly to the Biden family was because
Joe Biden was in high office. The Biden family business
was Joe Biden period. Other key players have made this
point clear as well. Hunter Biden himself has adamantly stated
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in a variety of communications, as did another Biden family
business associate, Devon Archer, in his testimony last year. Foreign
nationals on the other side of these transactions, including from China, Ukraine,
and Romania, have also explained how and why these transactions
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took place. Once again, I would call that evidence extensive.
And then Babbelinski gets into some details focusing on China. Quote,
the Chinese Communist Party, through its surrogate, China Energy Company
Limited or CEFC, a CCP linked Chinese energy conglomerate, successfully
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sought to infiltrate and compromise Joe Biden and the Obama
Biden Whitehouse. The process started in the fourth quarter of
twenty fifteen and continued through when Joe Biden left office
in January twenty seventeen to March of twenty eighteen, when
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CEFC chairman Ye was detained for corruption in China, never
to be seen again. Note that on October twenty first,
twenty fifteen, Joe Biden announced that he would not seek
the presidency in twenty sixteen. It is not a coincidence
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that CEFC's aggressive approach to the Biden family happened around
that time. It is also not a coincidence that CFC
used the Biden family's weakest link, Hunter Biden, and the
promise of large sums of money to the tune of
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tens of millions of dollars initially and eventually the profits
from investing billions of dollars in the United States and
around the world.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You hear that.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And this opening statement is one that shocked me because
it's clear that Tony Bobolinski is saying I need everyone
to know this. I witnessed it, I saw it, I
was therefore it and no, no one is listening to
what happened here in our government, no one sitting down
and asking any of these questions. Thank you for having
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me to basically Congress to tell you what I've been
trying to tell the American people and the authorities. And
that is the most shocking part of all.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. The six o'clock News doesn't
cover this, The Washington Post doesn't cover this, The New
York Times doesn't cover this. Let me reach you some
more from this opening statement, because every paragraph is a
bombshell it continues quote Joe Biden was aware of the
CEFC transaction, he enabled it, and had a constitutional responsibility
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and obligation to the American people to shut it down
before it began. This is because CEFC had been identified
as a known surrogate of the Chinese Communist Party by
the US government and prosecutors in the Southern District of
New York as far back as twenty sixteen, possibly earlier.
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I would encourage Congress to gather all of the exact
facts and date. It is clear to me that alarm
bell should have been going off of theden the Obama
Biden White House, and that Joe Biden should have been
aware that his own administration had red flag CEFC as
a tool of the Chinese Communist Party. That should have
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made any business transaction with CEFC a non starter. And
let me just stop and say, holy crap. Yes, like like,
I've been in the Senate twelve years, I don't know
a senator, all right. I was about to say, I
don't know a senator who would do that, and then
I thought about Bob Menendez. Yes, I do know a
senator who's currently under indictment for corruption by being approached
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by Egypt. Now Egypt happens to be an ally of ours.
It's not even the Chinese Communist Party. But how the
hell does any sane elected official not just walk away
but turn and run.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, and not just run, but even think want to
report it just to be on the record of like, Hey,
I was approached for this, and I want to make
sure everybody knows that I knew that this was bad
and I didn't want to be.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Involved in it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And yet this is what the Biden family seemed to
be seeking out, which is what Bob Olenski is saying here.
It also goes to another point of reporting before you
read a couple more points in there that he said
in his opening statement. Catherine Heritage, who actually was laid
off within hours of her reporting on how Biden may
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have quote retained sensitive documents related to specific countries involving
his family's foreign business dealings. This coming from the committees.
We've talked with, James Comer, We've talked to Jim Jordan said,
quote the committees require this Biden slash her interview transcript.
There is concern that President Biden may have retained sensitive
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documents related to specific countries involving his famili's foreign business dealings.
That is what she posted on Twitter from these documents
that she got from the committees. And this was a
letter that went to the Honorable Garland from these committees,
and it was simply saying, we believe, from what we've
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been told, the President Biden may have retained these documents
related to these countries involving his family and families foreign
business dealings. And further, the committee says, we seek to
understand whether the White House or President Biden's personal attorneys
placed any limitations or scoping restrictions during the interview that
would have precluded a line of inquiry regarding evidence emails,
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text messages, or witness statements directly linking the president to
troublesome foreign payments. You combine that with what Bob Olenski's saying,
and they line up about one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Well, that's exactly right. And recall that when Robert Hurr
was appointed, we said on this podcast, the tell of
whether DOJ wants to cover up malfeasance by the White
House is whether there's an investigation into the nexus between
the documents, the classified documents that Joe Biden had illegally
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and the foreign entities paying the Biden family tens of
millions of dollars, and as best we can tell, that
was not investigated by DOJ. Now, this is what James
Comer and Jim Jordan are trying to get to the
bottom of to find out what is the connection. And
you know, look, I got to stop and say, Catherine
Herriage has been really a unicorn. She has been a
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reporter for the corporate media for CBS, and she's been
willing to actually report on the Biden corruption. So what
did CBS do today? They laid her off. They fired her.
They said, you know what, we had one person in
our entire staff doing journalism. We've decided we don't need
any journalism at this outlet. You're out of a job.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And by the way, not just amazing journalism, journalism that
was above reproach and a history of it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And you notice, yes, I understand that layoffs happen.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I get that at CBS, but she was someone that
was doing unbelievable reporting at the highest level in Washingt
d C. On the biggest news stories that involve our government.
And just hours after she puts this out there, like yeah,
we're gonna get rid of you too.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I mean, it was three percent of the workforce.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You're telling me you couldn't have kept her in this
very important reporting position.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Give me a break.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, CBS is corrupt. Unfortunately, so is ABC, so is NBC,
so is CNN, so ISMSNBC. They have all abandoned any
pretense of journalism, and they are advocates, and so somehow
Catherine Herridge slipped through the crut cracks and CBS it
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is not accidental that when they're doing layoffs they decide, nope,
we can have noiceent from the orthodoxy. We have a
mission here and that mission, let's be clear, is to
defeat Donald Trump. And everything she was reporting that was
inconvenient to that was contrary to their narrative, and therefore
they let her go.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And they've silenced that narrative now completely by getting rid
of her.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
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Before we get into.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
And I know everybody wants to hear your thoughts on
this Ukraine funding bill that it worked its way through
the Senate, I do want to connect what we just
told the audience about Tony Bobolinsky to something else. It's
also not being covered by the media, and that is
the House Oversight Judiciary committees have released Rob Walker's transcript
as well as their finding that deal a lot more
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with the Chinese Communist parties connection to this Chinese energy
company CEFC and chairman Ye as well as others that
were in attendance with meetings that dealt directly with Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, that's right, and when you combine the two, when
you look at Bobolinsky's opening statement and then you look
at the testimony from Rob Walker, it paints an incredibly
damning picture of Joe Biden's personal complicity. So James Comber
tweeted out a series of tweets specifying exactly what it is,
Rob Walker said. And here's what Comber tweeted out about
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the Bob Walker testimony. Around the time Hunter Biden and
his associates received a three million dollar payment from a
CEFC entity, Joe Biden attended a CEFC meeting at the
Four Seasons in Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
D C.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
CFC chairman Yi Jingmang and other CEFC officials were in attendance.
In other words, let's just take that first tweet, Hunter
Biden's associates get three million dollars at the same time
Joe Biden is personally meeting with the chairman of CEFC,
the Communist Party energy company. Now let's go back to
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what Comer put out. Hunter Biden's associates work with CFC,
a Chinese government linked energy company, began in February twenty sixteen,
when Joe Biden was Vice President of the United States. However,
Hunter Biden and his associates were not paid until after
Joe Biden left office. Rob Walker admitted Hunter Biden's last
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name would quote probably get people in the door, and
he had a letter he drafted to CEFC director Zang
placed on Hunter Biden's letterhead because he was the son
of the vice president at the time, Rob Walker's account,
Robinson Walker LLC, received the three million dollar payment from
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the CFC entity on March first, twenty seventeen. The next day,
he wired one million and sixty five thousand dollars to
James Gilliar, a Biden family associate, and then over the
course of several months, wired incremental payments to the bidens,
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totaling around one million, sixty five thousand dollars. Rob Walker
told investigators Hunter asked him to send incremental payments to
various Biden accounts, including Halle Biden and James Biden, who
were not affiliated with the CEFC deal.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Now, to be clear, this goes back to exactly what
James Comer said to us the last time we sat
down with him, which was this is money laundering. This is, yes,
moving money from accounts to.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Accounts, breaking it up in pieces, sending it all over
the place, hiding where it's coming from. That's called money laundering.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, And there is no service that's being rendered by
any of the bidens that are being paid. They're not
selling anything. There's no actual business activities within these accounts.
It's just cleaning the money laundering the money and giving
it to this person and that person with the Biden
last name, funneling all into the Biden crime family. And
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this now back set up without a shadow of a
doubt that this was how they've been running business, not
just for a year or two, this is apparently how
they've been doing business the entire time.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, look at another thing in the Rob Lawucker transcript.
It's not just China, it's Ukraine, it's Russia, it's Romania.
Here here's another portion. During the Obama Biden administration, Hunter Biden,
Rob Walker and James Gillier had a lucrative contract with
Romanian businessmen Gabriel Papa Visiou, who was under investigation. Walker
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was unable to articulate what services the partners provided for.
I don't know, what do you think would be a
good amount for some Romanian businessman to hire the son
of the Vice president.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I mean, I'm assuming you know they like to deal
with millions, right, So let's stick with that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
How about this one hundred and eighty thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, that's how you get to millions real fast.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
One hundred and eighty thousand monthly from Papa issue. The
payments ended abruptly shortly after Joe Biden left the vice presidency.
It ain't subtle, no, not at all. What services did
Hunter provide? Well, those services ended as long as Daddy
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was no longer Vice president.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
By the way, if you just want to do simple
math to put this in perspective of hard working Americans,
they this romanian was paying the Biden family six grand
basically every day.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And you know what, in my experience, people don't give
away money for nothing. They were getting something and it
was not complex legal advice from Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Let's also dive in just for a second, and I
want your opinion Joe Biden over and over again. And
we played the montage in the show before of him
saying I never had anything to do with my son's
business dealings. I never talked business with them. We have
these firewalls between him and me. He also then when
it came to the issues of China, said I never
made it. My family's never made a dime from China.
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We've never done a business with China. I've never made
any money from China. How dare you say that? And
then said you should be looking at Donald Trump and
investigating him, right, that's the line. Not only was he
lying on both of those accounts, he also then had
this lie, which was he never talked business with him,
He never met with any of his been associates. This
is a new dinner we didn't know about. This is
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outside the Cafe Milano dinners that he had with other
people from China as well as from Russia and Romania.
So it looks like the product, which was Joe Biden
and this all deals with his impeachment inquiry, was a
product that had to go to dinner with some of
the shadiest figures in the world to get the money flowing.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well, listen, that's exactly right. What was being sold here,
I believe was not just access, It was favors from
Joe Biden. And what is so striking about the testimony,
about the transcript that was released is how much of
this connects directly to Joe. The corporate media doesn't want
to focus on it, but that of course is exactly
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why the House is open an impeachment inquiry.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, it's going to be important to see exactly what
happens with this moving forward.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
We're going to keep you updated on it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
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putting others first around the world. And this money we
don't have, We're gonna have to borrow this money. We're
gonna have to pay interest on this money. And it
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seems like there's no in insight for the obsession with
sending money to Ukraine. We're sending more money to them
than to Israel as well. Why did so many Democrats
get along so well with so many Republicans on this one?
How is it that so many Republicans can't just stand
their ground.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Well, it's incredibly frustrating. Look, you and I are recording this.
It is ten oh seven pm Texas time on Tuesday night.
I started this day this morning at a little after
five am, voting on the Senate floor. And the reason
we were voting at five am is because Chuck Schumer
had kept the Senate in all night in order to
try to force this vote through, and he succeeded. The
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vote was seventy to twenty nine. In other words, seventy
senators voted yes, twenty nine voted no. All the Democrats
except three voted for the funding bill, and yet there
were just twenty nine of us. I was a no.
(23:23):
There were twenty nine of US, and that was twenty
six Republicans and three Democrats who voted no. And listen,
my reasons for voting no. We've talked about at length,
but it's worth revisiting. There are elements of this bill
that I support. There are even elements of this bill
that I strongly support. So for example, this bill includes
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emergency military funding for Israel. I think that is incredibly important.
I think we should have passed that months ago. This
bill includes funding to help Taiwan defend itself against communist China.
I think that is very important for US national security.
Most notably, this bill contains tens of billions of dollars
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of funding for Ukraine. Now, my views on that are mixed.
I think it is very important that Russia lose and
Putin loses, and there are certainly circumstances in which I
would be willing to support military funding for Ukraine to
stop Russia because I think that's in the United States's interest. However,
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just a couple of months ago, every single Republican in
the Senate we stood united, and we made a united stand.
We said, we will not fund additional money for Ukraine
unlessen until we secure our own border. That we're not
going to spend billions to secure the border of another
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nation until America secures our border. And we're not going
to spend billions to stop the invasion of another country
until we stop the invasion of our own country. Now,
when I said that, I meant it. Unfortunately, I think
for a lot of my colleagues they did not, because,
as you know, what happened was Chuck Schumer and the
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Democrats refused to negotiate and agree to meaningful border security. Instead,
they demanded a bill that in many ways would have
made the border crisis worse, would have codified Joe Biden's
open borders, and when as soon as the bill TECHS
was released, they negotiated in secret. Within twenty four hours,
the bill had collapse because everyone reading it realized it
(25:33):
was a terrible bill. What Republican leadership did next, I
think was indefensible. They said, Okay, well, a few people
don't like Chuck Chuck Schumer's open border proposal, then never mind,
we'll just pass all the funding with nothing on.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
The border at all.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I think that is an absurd position, But unfortunately seventy
senators just cast a vote that way.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
So what happens now, because what we're hearing is that
this could move the House side Speaker Johnson has indicated.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
No or probably not, This isn't going to happen.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And then now Democrats, apparently Kim Jeffreys is saying, all right, well,
they're going to get together and they're going to get
a game planned or basically ram this down everyone's throat.
What would that look like and what does that mean
moving forward? On top of the fact that the House
majority for Republicans just got slimmer as well tonight because
we've lost a special election.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well that's exactly right. Look, if it is up to
House leadership, if it's up to the Speaker of the House,
this bill will not pass. The Speaker has said so
unequivocally that the House is not going to take up
and pass any military funding for Ukraine unlessen until it
contained serious and meaningful border security. And by the way,
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the House has already passed strong border security legislation, that
is HR two. The House passed that months ago. Chuck
Schumer refused to take it up. I entered STATEHR two
in the Senate. I'm the author of HR two in
the United States Senate. I had it as an amendment
to this bill. And by the way, I was clear.
I said, you know what, if we pass HR two,
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I'll vote for this bill. If we pass strong legislation
that forces Joe Biden to secure the border, I'm on board.
And Schumer said, not just no, but hell no. Refused
to allow a vote on HR two. When we were
voting this morning, I was trying very hard to get
a vote. Schumer locked down and blocked every single amendment vote.
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What I expect Republican leadership in the House to do
is to take up this bill and to attach strong
border security to it and then send it back to
the Senate. That's what I think is likely to happen.
There is a chance, and you referenced it. There's some
Democrats talking about trying to do what's called a discharge petition,
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which is all the House Democrats teaming up with a
handful of haw GISs Republicans to basically overrule the Speaker
of the House and force the bill onto the floor.
I don't think that will happen, and it is the
sort of move that would be just absolute rebellion by
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the rank and file Republican members. And but that is
really what Mitch mcconnlin Chuck Schumer's plan is, is to
try to use this bill to directly attack the Republican
speaker of the House. And I got to say, Ben,
I don't understand why Senate Republican leadership is trying to
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lead the attack on House Republican leadership.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Well, one final question this what was in it for
Republicans that just caved on this. I mean, I know,
and I'm cynical because I've been around it probably too long,
and you're probably you see it every day, so you're
cynical too. I'm like, all right, so what did you
get like to make you not listen to the American
people and just go along with this? What was the
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incentive of there to side with the Democrats?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
So so let me be a little more forgiving in
this sense. You know, there are folks that said, what
did they get? They're compromised. Look, in my experience, that's
not how Washington works. I don't think there's anybody with
a folder of people having, you know, sexual relations with
barnyard animals. And I don't think this is compromant. I
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don't think it's And I also don't think for the
people who voted for this that what did they get?
I don't think that they're like the Biden family in
terms of making millions of dollars off of this. I
don't think that's why it happened, At least among the Republicans.
I think a great many of them passionately believe that
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it is in America's interest for Ukraine to beat Russia.
And I understand that sentiment. I think Russia's winning this
war would be very, very bad for America and over
the long term would be much more expensive for American
te payers than it would be to defeat Russia and Ukraine.
So want I want Russia to lose. And I think
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it's combined with there are a lot of Republican senators
that basically they don't like a fight, and in any
given fight, when you ask them, all right, let's hold
the line and say we won't do this unless we
get real border security, they look at you and say, well,
Chuck Schumer would never do that. And I don't understand
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why they expect Chuck Schumer to stand strong and never blink,
and yet their solution is always, well, therefore, we got
to give Schumer what he wants. But that's temperamentally the
view of far too many Republicans in Congress.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, it's going to be a tough year for the Republicans,
especially on the House side, as their majority has gotten
even slimmer after we have lost a special election in
New York today as well. We're going to keep you
updated on all this, especially on what's happening with a
Biden crime family and these new testimony and documents coming
out in the impeachment inquiry of the President United States
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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