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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Kruz, a Senator,
This show is a really important show and it's one
that I want to say on the front end. I
hope people will take this and put it on social
media because it's an important issue that you said, we
need to dedicate an entire episode two, and that is
talking about what's going on with Israel and the Democratic
Party going after them.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, that's exactly right. We are here at a momentous time.
The Democrat Party is turning hard against the State of Israel.
The White House is turning hard against Israel. Joe Biden
personally is turning hard against Israel. The media is turning
hard against Israel. We are seeing an historic pivot away
from our enormous friend and ally in the Middle East,
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the state of Israel. And that is consequential. It is
consequential for Israel, It is consequential for Hamas, it is
consequential for Hesbla, it is consequential for Iran, it is
consequential for the entirety of the Middle East, is consequential
for the world. And what is striking while the White
House is actively undermining and abandoning Israel, every Democrat in
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the Senate and the House is sitting silently by and
allowing that to happen. This is a podcast We're going
to do a deep dive onto that. But it is
a very very sad moment, I believe.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, no doubt about it, and even shocking words coming
from the White House presscent today. We're going to start
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White House pres saretery Is Jean Pierre, and she said,
we know how to deal with terrorists now, and we're
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going to tell Israel what they need to do. Here
is the new idea.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We believe there has to be alternative ways to deal
with hamas in Gaza, as we're specifically in Rafa, a
military operation that we believe is not the way to
move forward. There is a active conversations happening with the
Israeli government and obviously our government, and I think that's important.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Senator, I'm going to take the bait. I'm going to
ask you the question, how is there an alternative and
what is an alternative way to deal with actual terrorists
that say they want to annihilate you and from the
river to the sea they want you to all be dead.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, let me give you the non alternative way. The
non alternative way is to kill them, is to eliminate Hamas.
To kill the terrorists, To kill the people that murder
twelve hundred israelis to kill the people that murdered over
thirty Americans, To kill the people that raped little girls
and raped women, To kill the people that burned babies alive,
that burn infants to kill the vicious anti Semitic, anti Israel,
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anti America terrorists that pledged to murder as many of
us as possible. That's the non alternative ways. Now, let
me just ask you a question, Ben, What the hell
is she talking about? There's an alternative way to deal
with Hamas terrists? I don't know. Maybe we sit down
in a circle with them, we hug them, we put
little robes on them, we put flowers in our hair,
we sing Kumba y'ah. Maybe that's the way to do it.
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Like what idiocy is this? These are psychopathic, homicidal, genocidal maniacs.
And here's the problem. You know what, There's an alternative
way to do deal with is left wing democrat activists
that the White House is terrified about. And so what
are they doing. They're abandoning Israel. Let me say, Israel
is exactly right. They should eliminate Hamas and every jumos
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terrists they eliminate is saving the lives of Israelis, and
it's saving the lives of Americans. That is a statement
I want you to understand. Let's say you're a Democrat
at home. Look, we don't have a ton of Democrats
that listen to this podcast. But I actually think we
have some we try on this podcast. By the way,
I encourage people all the time when I talk to
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high schools, when I talk to colleges, when I talk
to people that are non partisan, I say, listen, you
want to know what's going on in the world. Here's
part of the problem. The media is all biased, it's
all partisan, it's all ideological. So if you only listen
to see an n or MSNBC, you'll only get part
of the news. And by the way, if you only
listen to Fox News or Newsmax or write a center media,
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you'll only get part of the news. What I do
is I try to listen across the spectrum. So what
I encourage people to do is I tell high school kids,
in college kids this, I said, I'll tell you what.
Take a month listen to every episode of Verdict, and
then also that same month, listen to every episode of
some left wing podcasts. I don't care, Pod Save America,
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some you know, I don't know, whatever comedy piece. There
are enough of them out there. You can pick something
of them. Yeah, but listen to both sides. And I
don't know if anyone has ever taken me up on
that request, but I hope they have. I hope they're
listening to both sides. So if you're a Democrat listening
to this, I want you to ask yourself, do you
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think America should stand with Israel? And if we should,
what do you think is the quote alternative way to
deal with Hamas terrorists. I don't know of any other
way other than the way Israel is trying to do,
which is to eliminate them, to defeat them, to kill them.
But apparently the Biden White House has something else in mind.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You see, I've got like seven different questions for you center,
I've been wanting to ask you all day, so I'm
just going to go through a couple of them quickly.
Number one. When I heard this, I was angry, but
then I said, Okay, what is the alternative? It sounds
like and this is one way you could take it.
She's now saying you need to negotiate with terrorists that
actually have hostages right now, That's what it seems like
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she's saying. And I thought America's foreign policy was we
don't actually negotiate with terrorists they have Americans, by the way,
that they're still holding hostage right now as well. So
then the second question I have for you Center is this,
how much money are we supposed to give them? Because
I'm assuming if there's an alternative way to deal with Hamas,
that means, Okay, we're going to bribe you. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You're not entirely wrong, but you don't have anywhere near
close to the scope of it. Sadly, let me tell
you what the Biden White House means. The alternative way
to deal with them is Number one, allow them to live,
allow them to prosper, allow them to succeed. Do not
kill the terrorists who murdered Israelis. Do not kill the
terrorists who murdered Americans, do not kill the terrorists who
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raped little girls and raped women. Do not kill the
terrorists who murdered infants. But they also it's not just
don't kill them, give them a state.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Reward them.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Remember the White House is trying to say the reward
for October seven should be a two state solution. The
two states should be create a Palestinian state. By the way,
they had a two state solution. Gaza was run by Hamas.
Israel was not in Gaza. They were in control of it.
It's a popular talking point on the left. Oh, it
was an open air concentration site. What utter imbecility. The
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Palestinians ran the Gaza strip, they were in charge of it.
The Israelis weren't there. They could do it whatever they wanted.
The reason it was a hell hole is because Hamas
ran it. And by the way, Hamas ran it because
when the Palestinians had elections, the Palestinians voted for Hamas.
So at some level, listen, Hamas has wreaked havoc and
suffering and misery on the Palestinian people, But at some
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level a majority of them bear responsibility for that because
when they went to the polls and voted, they said, yeah,
the psycho terrorists, that's who we want running things. Now,
here's what Biden is saying. Because you engage in one
of the worst act of mass murder of Jews, in fact,
the single worst mass murder of Jews in a day
since Holocaust, Because you engage in horrific terrorism, because you
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murder over thirty Americans, We're going to reward you and
expand your territory and give you control and give you
power and elevate you and treat you as a statesman.
And by the way, in about a year, they'll give
you the Nobel Peace Prize as a psychotic terrorist. That's
what they mean. By a different way is literally, we
will show every terrorist in the world you want what
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you want, commit horrific acts of mass murder, and get
the idiots and the press and the pacifistic, appeasing, cheese
eating surrender monkeys of the Democrat Party to give you
what you want. And all you need to do is
murder and rape enough people and they'll give you exactly
what you want.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You know, let's go back to when this attack happened,
because I will give credit in that moment. Joe Biden
publicly was very clear that we were standing behind Israel,
but the machine behind Joe Biden very clearly came out.
I wanted to get ahead of him and say no, no, no,
we actually don't. We're calling on Israel to not retaliate
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even against their nine to eleven that happened, that the
most Jews have been massacred since the Holocaust, for goodness sakes,
and you called out quickly. Remind you we've talked about
on the show before. But if people may be listening
the show for the first time because they've seen on
social media where people have been posting this about Israel.
I want to remind them in the hours after the attack,
what our government, the machine behind Biden, was doing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Within hours of the attack, on October seventh, while people
we're still being murdered, while the bodies were still warm,
the Biden State Department, the Office of Palestinian Affairs, tweeted
out a tweet that said Israel should not retaliate, do
not respond with violence, do not respond with warfare. Essentially
roll over and allow mass murder to happen in your country,
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and do nothing now. At three in the morning that night,
I called that out, announced it, and within hours they
retracted the tweet. They deleted it. Then the next day,
Tony Blincoln, the Secretary of State, did the same thing.
He said, I just talked with the Turkish foreign Minister
and we agreed there should be an immediate cease fire.
The one thing that is critical is Israel should not
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kill any terrorists. He didn't quite say that, but that's
essentially what he said. I responded again within hours saying
this is disgraceful, this is shameful, and again the State
Department deleted the tweet. So understand, in forty eight hours,
they sent out two anti Israel Prohamas tweets. In forty
eight hours, I called him both out, and in forty
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eight hours they deleted them both. Early on, when Biden
would get in the front of a camera and talk,
his actually talking points were pretty good because listen, Biden
is from an older generation of Democrats that they actually
said we should stand with Israel, and Biden is what
one hundred and forty two years old. He probably still
thinks he's in the nineteen eighties. He re peeded those
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old talking points. Here's the problem. Biden has filled his
White House, He's filled his State Department, He's filled his
administration with rabid leftist anti Israel, anti Semites. They hate Israel,
they believe Israel is an illegitimate occupying force. They believe
the Palestinians, they believe the Hamas terrorists are noble freedom fighters,
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and they side with Hamas. I'm not exaggerating. And by
the way, we've had, among other things, white House interns
protesting State Department in turns protesting. Let me be clear,
in any sane White House, listen, if I'd been elected
president of twenty sixteen, and the White House returns protests
the day they protested with the day they lost their
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White House badge and they left the White House. The
idiocy of they've hired these twenty year old radicals who
hate Israel. They have been taught from their Marxist professors
Israel is a colonialist oppressor. And I got to say
Biden's rhetoric from a yester year of the Democrats saying
we stand with Israel to the young, angry leftist made
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no sense. And let me say to people listening to this,
if you're a Democrat, if you're a centrist, but you
do support Israel, ask yourself, is there room left in
the Democrat Party for theirs views? I don't see a
whole lot of it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, you're right, well, And that brings me to what's
happening now. Clearly, the people around Joe Biden have said
to him over and over and over and over again
that he needs to quiet down on his public support
of Israel. And the White House was asked about that.
John Kirby was asked about it, and here's how it
went down. When Peter Deucey asked him at the White
House Press briefing US one. Then where is President Biden
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on any of this? When he wants to talk about
how angry he is or frustrated he is about the
high cost of insulin, he comes out and gives an
impassioned speech.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Where does he on any of this?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
He's been talking about this, He's been issuing statements on us. No,
that's statement. The last I looked was public.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
But where is he?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Why isn't he here right now?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I'm sure you'll continue to hear from the President about
this and many other national securities.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
We gotta wrap up. I love that you heard John
here in the background. We got to wrap this up.
We gotta wrap this up right now. Actions speak louder
than words, right, So if the President has some words
on a page about Israel, that says something, but he's
not saying anything publicly. It's very clear now that the
White House has turned basically a one eighty and the
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UN vote from a week ago was a lot of proof.
But now the White House is publicly not supporting Israel.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Listen, the UN vote from a week ago was I
believe orchestrated by the Biden administration. They want the United
Nations to condemn Israel. They want the United Nations to
call for an immediate cease fire. And let's be clear.
Joe Biden yesterday talked with Benjamin et Ya, who they
put out a press that they put out a readout
of the call and they said Biden Deman did an
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immediate ceasefire. Understand, the President of the United States is
telling Israel stop killing Hamas terrorists. Now that is their position,
that you cannot kill any more terrorist. Why and listen,
it's not a national security reason. It's not a reason
that supports israel security. It's not a reason that sports
America's security. The reason is domestic politics. The angry left
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wing Democrat Party, the anti Semites, and let's be clear,
they hate Israel and they hate Jews. And by the way,
I got to say, there are a lot of Jewish
Democrats right now in this country who are facing an
existential crisis because they have been Democrats, many of them
their entire lives. They vote Democrat. And yet they're seeing
people in the Democrat Party who despise Israel. And let's
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be clear, who despised Jews. Listen. In the Marxist worldview,
as you know, in my book Unwoke, How to Defeat
Cultural Marxism in America, I described the cultural Marxist view
the world into oppressors and victims, and the leftists, the
leftists at universities, the anti Semits at universities, they define Jews,
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not Israelis Jews. If you are Jewish in America, if
you are Jewish in Israel, if you're Jewish anywhere in
the world, the Marxists define you as an oppressor. You
are white, you are a capitalist, you are wealthy, you
are an oppressor. That is their worldview. And by the way,
if you're not, they think you probably want to be,
so you're an oppressor too. And they define Palestinians, all Palestinians,
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and especially Hamas terrorists, as victims. And the cultural Marxist
support the violent, aggressive revolution of the so called victims
against the so called oppressors. And so the leftists and
the Marxists are celebrating when Hamas murders Israelis, when Hamas
murders Americans, the leftists and the Democrat Party are celebrating.
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And this is what Joe Biden, this is what Chuck Schumer,
and sadly, this is what every Democrat and House member
on the Democrat side in the Senate and House are supporting.
And let me ask you this, so Ben, you're you're
a very sophisticated political observer. Have you seen a single Democrat,
a single Democrat member of the House, single Democrat member
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of the Senate, call out and denounce Joe Biden this
White House for undermining Israel, for supporting Hamas and for
demanding that Israel stop killing Hamas terrorists.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
No, and not only that, to put it in perspective,
with a passing of Joe, have.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You've seen a reporter ask a Democrat that hold on, Yeah,
The answer is no, I haven't seen it either. Have
you seen one Democrat ask I'm sorry, one reporter ask
a Democrat that I haven't. I literally have not seen
a single Democrat senator, a single Democrat House member asked
that in a normal, insane world, there are five hundred
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and thirty five members of the Senate and the House,
every one of us, myself included, should be at Now.
My answer, that's easy.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You asked me.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Do I support it? Hell no, I think it is
corrupt and evil and profoundly anti Israel. That's my answer. Now,
let's start with the remaining four hundred and thirty four.
Let them get their answers on record.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
There's also something else that's been happening. And early on
you saw some members of the squad, the aocs, Rashida Leibs,
the more extreme socialists in the Democratic Party. They were
anti Israel from day one. But we saw a shift
this last week. And I want you to hear what
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Elizabeth Warren had to say, of course, coming from Cambridge, Massachusetts,
she goes on CNN and this is what she had
to say about Net and Yahoo.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
You talk about Netnahoo needing to be held accountable and
things that need to happen now. Last month you joined
a group of Democratic senators basically asking Joe Biden to
leverage weapon sales to Israel to pressure Netnyah who to
change tactics in Gaza. We know the administration is set
to light a huge sale worth upwards of eighteen billion
dollars to Israel, having to do with a slew of
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F fifteen fighter jets. Do you Congress can take action
now to have a say in that. Do you want
Congress to move to block that sale?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well, I think it is clear that Congress has a
responsibility to act. We have legal tools here, and as
I said, we cannot approve the sale of arms to
a country that is in violation of our own laws
on this, and that includes access to humanitarian relief. This
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is a moral question, it is also a legal question.
Congress has responsibility here, and I'm willing to take that responsibility.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Talk to me more about that, because I've heard a
lot of kind of conversations around possibly considering legislation to
step in. Will are you considering or will you be
putting forward legislation if that's the right term when it
comes to this to kind of start this process of
blocking the sale.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So, actually, let's let's put this in a slightly different context.
We already have an established US policy here.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
How do you make the president not doing like this?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
That's I think the best we can do here is
that we need to all be working together, and that's
the President, that's people in Congress. And I am hopeful
that when the President talks with Prime Minister net Miyahu,
he will be making it clear that support for the
actions of the Prime Minister are not He's not helping Israel,
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he is not keeping Israel safe. And that he cannot
cannot continue to follow a policy of trying to starve
out the people of Gaza Center.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Not just as he's saying no more aid, military aid
to protect him from the terrace. She then accuses net
and Yahoo of quote trying to starve out the people
of Gaza And that's her last point that she makes
there on CNN, and CNN set her up perfectly for this.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
CNN wants to tell you that. And by the way,
you and I did a podcast a couple of months
ago that I think is a really important podcast. If
you didn't listen to it, you got to go back
and listen to it. Even better, you got to watch
it on YouTube, because this is one of our video podcasts,
and it was entitled CNN as Hamas's air Force. So
is MSNBC, so is ABC. CNN is acting as propagandists
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for Hamas. With that, and sadly, a United States Senator,
my colleague, Elizabeth Warren was elected the same day I was,
in November of twenty twelve. She served twelve years, just
like I have. And but you know what, she was
a professor at Harvard Law School, my alma mater where
I went, and Harvard Law School is a pit of
rabid leftist, often Marxist thought, and we have seen it
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festers anti Semitism. There's a reason Clauding Gay, the president
of Harvard, was forced to resign. There's a reason Harvard
has seen their applications plummet because the left despises Israel.
In her comments, Israel's not trying to starve at anyone.
That is grotesque, that is dishonest, that is false. But
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understand the angry lefties who are Elizabeth Warren's base, hate hate,
hate Israel. They're not neutral, they're not ambiguous, they're not fair,
they're not objective. They cheer when pro Palestinian and pro
Hamas protesters chant from the river to the sea, what
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is from the river to the sea mean? It means literally,
we should annihilate Israel. There should be no Jewish state
on the face of the planet. That the only thing
in the land that is now Israel should be a
new Palestinian state where apparently Jews are not welcome. That
is the view of the radicals, And sadly, Elizabeth Warren
is not an outlier. Rashida Talib is not an outliner.
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Ilhan Omar is not an outlier. AOC is not an outlier.
Their views are reflected by Chuck Schumer and by Joe Biden.
This is the so called mainstream Democrat party. They have decided.
They've looked at the political landscape and they said, oh crap,
the crazy lefties are our base. We need them to
show up. So Israel we're willing to abandon. And that
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that makes me incredibly sad because it's dangerous. It's dangerous
for Israel, it's dangerous for American it's dangerous for the world.
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account today, Senator, I also want to ask you something else,
and this seems to be becoming a much bigger political issue.
There's reporting now that the First Lady, Joe Biden, is
urging the president privately. They've leaked this obviously so it,
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you know, to make it look like this is really
a big issue behind closed doors. Apparently she's urging the
president privately to end the war in Gaza. Stop stop
it now. Is the quote that has quote been lead.
You also have John Kirby saying he won't clarify if
Joe Biden wants to cease fire before or after Hamas
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releases hostages. This happening at the White House as well.
Listen and we'll clarify on the.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Ceasefire language that other president used.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
The statement, he says that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
That there should be a cease fire, and then the
next after commites, he urged Prime Minister and power negotiators
to conclude a deal without delay. So are the two
tied together, or is he saying ceasefire right now and
then the other thing later. I mean, what how immediate
is A mean?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
I can't really improve upon the president's language.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
We want to see a pause in the fighting. We
want to see a cease fire immediately so that we
can get more humanitarian assistance in and create a set
of conditions where EID organizations feel better about operating inside
GOSA because as we've already seen it as a result
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of the attack on the WCK workers that some aid
organizations now are pulling back. So we want to see
that immediacy's fireplace. We also, of course, as we've said
many times, I think that that could also provide a
window here to get the hostages out.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Thanks, thank you so much, Thank you, Centater. It seems
to me we don't know what the foreign policy is
anymore of America with Israel and our ally in Israel,
because they can't figure out the politics of how to
play this in an election year, and they're worried about
losing younger voters, so they're trying to play both sides
at the bare minimum. But we also could be witnessing
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for the first time in my lifetime, an actual policy change,
with Israel maybe not being our great ally in the Middle.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
East, how hard would it be for the President of
the United States to stand up and say, Hamas needs
to release the hostages now. Every American it is a
hostage should be released now. Every Israeli that is a
hostage should be released now. Every woman that you are
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raping right now should be released today. And if you don't,
we will hunt you down, we will destroy you, we
will kill you. That's what a commander in chief who
was defending Americans. How would you feel if it was
your family, If it was your mom, if it was
your sister, if it was your daughter, if it was
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your son or father or brother who was trapped in
hell being brutalized day after day after day. Look, I've
spoken with the families of these hostages. Some of them
been released, some of not. The agony they're feeling in
this White House, you know what, I sat on the
floor of the House and listened to it, tired State
of the Union address. I don't remember Joe Biden standing
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up and saying Hamas, release the hostages now, or face
the holy fear of the United States of America. He
didn't say that, because you know what, his angry leftist
base would be mad at.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
That senat you. And I want to go back in
time because it's amazing how quick people forget about what
happened on that day. I've met with the Israeli government independently.
You've obviously met with them and representatives countless times. You
watched a long version of the atrocities of that day.
(29:28):
I have seen more than I wanted to, but I
think it was important with the platform that I have
to be an advocate for Israel to see it and
witness it, and I saw it much more recently. I
can't get those images out out of my head, just
how orchestrated, how barbaric, how evil the people were that
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were doing these things to As we talked about children,
to the elderly, the elderly, it has somewhat been overlooked.
And I was watching some of this, and you watch
these elderly people. Not only were they killing the grandfathers
and great grandfathers in front of the great grandmothers and
their kids and grandkids, but they were ripping them away
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and then taunting because they were going to go after
the women. And this was all caught on video, and
yet no one seems to be reminding people that those
are the hostages that are still being held captive right now.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
They are, And where is America? Where is the president?
Where is a Democrat calling for the release of the
American hostages? By the way, these are not many of
them are Israelis, but there are multiple American hostages that
this White House A wall doesn't even begin. It's worse
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than a wall. If they were silent, that would be disgraceful.
But they're not silent. They're telling Israel stop trying to
kill the terrorists. Instead, reward the terrorist and give them
a nation state that is stronger than it was before
and in a better position to wage war with Israel
into murder innocent civilians going forward. That is a bizarre
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way to respond to a horrific atrocity carried out by.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Hamas Jensaki, White House Press secretary. She obviously And this
is when you know it's a coordinated and orchestrated effort
by talking heads, former White House pressingre terry, people in
the media, people in the State Department, people in social
media circles on the left, and celebrities and others this
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is what she had to say on Israel on MSNBC.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Well, and Jen, it's very easy for people to say
the president should do a the president should do BC.
There is also the very real possibility, and He'll say,
understand this, if the President turns on met Yahoo to belief,
the President says we're going to stop sending weapons that
(32:05):
Met and Yahoo actually uses that to gain more power
inside of Israel, saying, see, we have been abandoned even
by the United States.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
We have to fight on That's right, Joe.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
And I think that's important too. Look, clearly, the strategy
that the United States is implementing at this point is
not working to change the behavior of Prime Minister net
and Yahoo is not working to end the war. So
obviously something has to change. And I think it's pretty
clear they're discussing that, I think in the White House
and I hope in the White House in this situation
room at this point in time. The question is what
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that will be. And there's a number of allies of
President Biden's in the Senate, Democratic senators and others who
have been pretty outspoken about the need for conditioning AID
at least as a consideration. That's Obviously something that is
being considered should be considered. The question is will that
change the behavior? And what additional leverage needs to be
(33:00):
put on Prime Minister Netnyaho at this point in time
to change the trajectory. But you're right, there's a calculation
if you're discussing this, if you're the president, if you're
the national security team, about what would prompt Prime Minister
Netanyaho to be more aggressive, what would prompt him to
be less aggressive? Obviously nothing has worked to date, But
it's it's not as easy as it sounds to make
that determination center.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Not one time did she say anything about putting pressure
on Hamas the terrorist organization or the Palestinian that are
supporting the terrorists to stop them. They don't care about Israel,
like Israel is the terrorist organization that started all this.
They were the ones that were attacked.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Look that they treat Israel as a client state. They
treat Israel as the oppressors, and understand the base of
their party believes Israel as their oppressors and also get
you know, you know, there's some folks. There's a popular
media narrative that hey, Joe Biden Israelly pro Israel. But
he's just got a political problem that that his party
(34:00):
is not That's actually not accurate. Joe Biden has been
undermining Israel for more than fifty years. Let's go back
to nineteen eighty two. Nineteen eight two was a long
time ago. Nineteen eighty two, Joe Biden was in the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He had a private meeting with
Israeli Prime Minister Man Knock and began and Joe Biden
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decided to do what he's doing now, to threaten Israel,
to threaten We're going to cut off usaid if Israel
did not stop quote settlements in Judaea and Samaria. So
it's frankly the same thing he was saying in eighty
two is what he's saying now. We don't like Israel.
You don't have any right to settle the land of Israel,
and if you do, we're going to cut you off.
(34:44):
And here's what Megan responded to. And this is one
of the most famous responses by any Israeli Prime minister,
and it was in nineteen eighty two, so a long
long time ago. Here's what Began said to Joe Biden.
Then a senator quote, don't threaten us with cutting off
your aid. It will not work. I am not a
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Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with
three thousand, seven hundred years of civilized history. Nobody came
to our aid when we were dying in the gas
chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we
were striving to create our country. We paid for it,
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we fought for it, we died for it. We will
stand by our principles, we will defend them, and when necessary,
we will die for them again, with or without your aid.
That's what the Prime Minister of Israel said to Joe
Biden over forty years ago. You know what, the Prime
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Minister of Israel is still saying that to Joe Biden.
But sadly, the entire Democrat Party is with Biden, undermining
is and effectively forming a protective shield around the Hamas
terrorists who committed the most unspeakable acts of modern times
that we have seen.
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Send our last question for you, and it's a really
important one. If the Elizabeth Warrens, the Democratic Party, and
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if the aocs and Rashida Leeves and others are able
to flip the script the way it seems like we're
going with the help of the media, what happens if,
in fact we don't give the AA needed and the
military weaponry needed that Israel is willing to buy from
us because this president caves and blocks it. What happens
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to Israel?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Then well, listen, the Biden administration and the Democrats in
the Congress hope that Israel will give in that they
want to number one undermine Benjamin et Yahoo. And I'm
not listen, I'm not being partisan in this. I'm not
intuiting or supposing this. Chuck Schumer said it on the
Senate floor. He said he wants net Yahu to be
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forced out of office. He wants Israel to have a new
election and for them to elect a prime minister whose
views he likes. And apparently the voters of Israel don't
have a right to choose their own leader. That it's
going to be the Democrats in Washington to choose that.
But look the White House and the Congressional Democrats. They
hope that by attacking Israel relentlessly, by threatening to cut
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off money, by undermining their international support, that Israel will
get cold feet, that they will get weak knees, they
will stop attacking Hamas and in particular Rafa. Look the
Hamas leadership, the Hamas terrorists are all gathered in Rafa. Now,
I'll tell you I sat down doing a zoom call
two weeks ago with Prime Minister Netanyahu. He joined all
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the Republican senators at our lunch. I can tell you
two weeks ago he was unequivocal. He said, we will
go to Rafa, we will enter Rafa, we will engage
in a military campaign, we will utterly eliminate Hamas, and
if America has not there, we'll do it on our own.
To be honest, what Netanyahu said it was almost word
for word webknock, and Vegan said that has not changed.
It's one of the reasons Listen, as a Texan, I've explained,
(40:14):
people have asked me a lot of times. They've said,
how is it. How did it come to pass that
a Cuban Techan Southern Baptist became the leading defender of
Israel in the Senate. And there are lots of reasons
for that, But I'll tell you one of the biggest
is the attitude of Israel. Israel is surrounded by nations
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that would drive it into the sea, that would murder
every Israeli, every Jew if they could, and the only
reason they don't is because Israel is strong enough to
defeat them all. I got to say that is an
incredibly Texan foreign policy. It is a national security policy.
I have more than once wished that American foreign policy
could have the clarity and strength that Israel's does, and
(41:00):
so I'm not surprised that Netanyahu is saying the same
thing Knock and Megan said forty plus years later, which
is Israel only survives because they can survive. They are
not dependent on the large Yes, the welfare from Democrats
who are condescending to flick breadcrumbs from their table. But
(41:24):
I really do wonder Ben, is there one Democrat in
Congress with the guts to stand up to Biden and
say this is wrong. We stand with Israel, we stand
against Tamas, and all of the rest of this is garbage.
(41:45):
If they have I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, I agree with you, and this is going to
be such an important issue on the ballot this coming November.
Don't forget to share this please. It's an important episode
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Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Kruz, a Senator,
This show is a really important show and it's one
that I want to say on the front end. I
hope people will take this and put it on social
media because it's an important issue that you said, we
need to dedicate an entire episode two, and that is
talking about what's going on with Israel and the Democratic
Party going after them.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, that's exactly right. We are here at a momentous time.
The Democrat Party is turning hard against the State of Israel.
The White House is turning hard against Israel. Joe Biden
personally is turning hard against Israel. The media is turning
hard against Israel. We are seeing an historic pivot away
from our enormous friend and ally in the Middle East,
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the state of Israel. And that is consequential. It is
consequential for Israel, It is consequential for Hamas, it is
consequential for Hesbla, it is consequential for Iran, it is
consequential for the entirety of the Middle East, is consequential
for the world. And what is striking while the White
House is actively undermining and abandoning Israel, every Democrat in
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the Senate and the House is sitting silently by and
allowing that to happen. This is a podcast We're going
to do a deep dive onto that. But it is
a very very sad moment, I believe.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, no doubt about it, and even shocking words coming
from the White House presscent today. We're going to start
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White House pres saretery Is Jean Pierre, and she said,
we know how to deal with terrorists now, and we're
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going to tell Israel what they need to do. Here
is the new idea.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We believe there has to be alternative ways to deal
with hamas in Gaza, as we're specifically in Rafa, a
military operation that we believe is not the way to
move forward. There is a active conversations happening with the
Israeli government and obviously our government, and I think that's important.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Senator, I'm going to take the bait. I'm going to
ask you the question, how is there an alternative and
what is an alternative way to deal with actual terrorists
that say they want to annihilate you and from the
river to the sea they want you to all be dead.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, let me give you the non alternative way. The
non alternative way is to kill them, is to eliminate Hamas.
To kill the terrorists, To kill the people that murder
twelve hundred israelis to kill the people that murdered over
thirty Americans, To kill the people that raped little girls
and raped women, To kill the people that burned babies alive,
that burn infants to kill the vicious anti Semitic, anti Israel,
(04:13):
anti America terrorists that pledged to murder as many of
us as possible. That's the non alternative ways. Now, let
me just ask you a question, Ben, What the hell
is she talking about? There's an alternative way to deal
with Hamas terrists? I don't know. Maybe we sit down
in a circle with them, we hug them, we put
little robes on them, we put flowers in our hair,
we sing Kumba y'ah. Maybe that's the way to do it.
(04:34):
Like what idiocy is this? These are psychopathic, homicidal, genocidal maniacs.
And here's the problem. You know what, There's an alternative
way to do deal with is left wing democrat activists
that the White House is terrified about. And so what
are they doing. They're abandoning Israel. Let me say, Israel
is exactly right. They should eliminate Hamas and every jumos
(04:57):
terrists they eliminate is saving the lives of Israelis, and
it's saving the lives of Americans. That is a statement
I want you to understand. Let's say you're a Democrat
at home. Look, we don't have a ton of Democrats
that listen to this podcast. But I actually think we
have some we try on this podcast. By the way,
I encourage people all the time when I talk to
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high schools, when I talk to colleges, when I talk
to people that are non partisan, I say, listen, you
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to see an n or MSNBC, you'll only get part
of the news. And by the way, if you only
listen to Fox News or Newsmax or write a center media,
(05:38):
you'll only get part of the news. What I do
is I try to listen across the spectrum. So what
I encourage people to do is I tell high school kids,
in college kids this, I said, I'll tell you what.
Take a month listen to every episode of Verdict, and
then also that same month, listen to every episode of
some left wing podcasts. I don't care, Pod Save America,
(05:59):
some you know, I don't know, whatever comedy piece. There
are enough of them out there. You can pick something
of them. Yeah, but listen to both sides. And I
don't know if anyone has ever taken me up on
that request, but I hope they have. I hope they're
listening to both sides. So if you're a Democrat listening
to this, I want you to ask yourself, do you
(06:19):
think America should stand with Israel? And if we should,
what do you think is the quote alternative way to
deal with Hamas terrorists. I don't know of any other
way other than the way Israel is trying to do,
which is to eliminate them, to defeat them, to kill them.
But apparently the Biden White House has something else in mind.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You see, I've got like seven different questions for you center,
I've been wanting to ask you all day, so I'm
just going to go through a couple of them quickly.
Number one. When I heard this, I was angry, but
then I said, Okay, what is the alternative? It sounds
like and this is one way you could take it.
She's now saying you need to negotiate with terrorists that
actually have hostages right now, That's what it seems like
(07:01):
she's saying. And I thought America's foreign policy was we
don't actually negotiate with terrorists they have Americans, by the way,
that they're still holding hostage right now as well. So
then the second question I have for you Center is this,
how much money are we supposed to give them? Because
I'm assuming if there's an alternative way to deal with Hamas,
that means, Okay, we're going to bribe you. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You're not entirely wrong, but you don't have anywhere near
close to the scope of it. Sadly, let me tell
you what the Biden White House means. The alternative way
to deal with them is Number one, allow them to live,
allow them to prosper, allow them to succeed. Do not
kill the terrorists who murdered Israelis. Do not kill the
terrorists who murdered Americans, do not kill the terrorists who
(07:43):
raped little girls and raped women. Do not kill the
terrorists who murdered infants. But they also it's not just
don't kill them, give them a state.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Reward them.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Remember the White House is trying to say the reward
for October seven should be a two state solution. The
two states should be create a Palestinian state. By the way,
they had a two state solution. Gaza was run by Hamas.
Israel was not in Gaza. They were in control of it.
It's a popular talking point on the left. Oh, it
was an open air concentration site. What utter imbecility. The
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Palestinians ran the Gaza strip, they were in charge of it.
The Israelis weren't there. They could do it whatever they wanted.
The reason it was a hell hole is because Hamas
ran it. And by the way, Hamas ran it because
when the Palestinians had elections, the Palestinians voted for Hamas.
So at some level, listen, Hamas has wreaked havoc and
suffering and misery on the Palestinian people, But at some
(08:39):
level a majority of them bear responsibility for that because
when they went to the polls and voted, they said, yeah,
the psycho terrorists, that's who we want running things. Now,
here's what Biden is saying. Because you engage in one
of the worst act of mass murder of Jews, in fact,
the single worst mass murder of Jews in a day
since Holocaust, Because you engage in horrific terrorism, because you
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murder over thirty Americans, We're going to reward you and
expand your territory and give you control and give you
power and elevate you and treat you as a statesman.
And by the way, in about a year, they'll give
you the Nobel Peace Prize as a psychotic terrorist. That's
what they mean. By a different way is literally, we
will show every terrorist in the world you want what
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you want, commit horrific acts of mass murder, and get
the idiots and the press and the pacifistic, appeasing, cheese
eating surrender monkeys of the Democrat Party to give you
what you want. And all you need to do is
murder and rape enough people and they'll give you exactly
what you want.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You know, let's go back to when this attack happened,
because I will give credit in that moment. Joe Biden
publicly was very clear that we were standing behind Israel,
but the machine behind Joe Biden very clearly came out.
I wanted to get ahead of him and say no, no, no,
we actually don't. We're calling on Israel to not retaliate
(10:08):
even against their nine to eleven that happened, that the
most Jews have been massacred since the Holocaust, for goodness sakes,
and you called out quickly. Remind you we've talked about
on the show before. But if people may be listening
the show for the first time because they've seen on
social media where people have been posting this about Israel.
I want to remind them in the hours after the attack,
what our government, the machine behind Biden, was doing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Within hours of the attack, on October seventh, while people
we're still being murdered, while the bodies were still warm,
the Biden State Department, the Office of Palestinian Affairs, tweeted
out a tweet that said Israel should not retaliate, do
not respond with violence, do not respond with warfare. Essentially
roll over and allow mass murder to happen in your country,
(10:54):
and do nothing now. At three in the morning that night,
I called that out, announced it, and within hours they
retracted the tweet. They deleted it. Then the next day,
Tony Blincoln, the Secretary of State, did the same thing.
He said, I just talked with the Turkish foreign Minister
and we agreed there should be an immediate cease fire.
The one thing that is critical is Israel should not
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kill any terrorists. He didn't quite say that, but that's
essentially what he said. I responded again within hours saying
this is disgraceful, this is shameful, and again the State
Department deleted the tweet. So understand, in forty eight hours,
they sent out two anti Israel Prohamas tweets. In forty
eight hours, I called him both out, and in forty
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eight hours they deleted them both. Early on, when Biden
would get in the front of a camera and talk,
his actually talking points were pretty good because listen, Biden
is from an older generation of Democrats that they actually
said we should stand with Israel, and Biden is what
one hundred and forty two years old. He probably still
thinks he's in the nineteen eighties. He re peeded those
(12:00):
old talking points. Here's the problem. Biden has filled his
White House, He's filled his State Department, He's filled his
administration with rabid leftist anti Israel, anti Semites. They hate Israel,
they believe Israel is an illegitimate occupying force. They believe
the Palestinians, they believe the Hamas terrorists are noble freedom fighters,
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and they side with Hamas. I'm not exaggerating. And by
the way, we've had, among other things, white House interns
protesting State Department in turns protesting. Let me be clear,
in any sane White House, listen, if I'd been elected
president of twenty sixteen, and the White House returns protests
the day they protested with the day they lost their
(12:43):
White House badge and they left the White House. The
idiocy of they've hired these twenty year old radicals who
hate Israel. They have been taught from their Marxist professors
Israel is a colonialist oppressor. And I got to say
Biden's rhetoric from a yester year of the Democrats saying
we stand with Israel to the young, angry leftist made
(13:07):
no sense. And let me say to people listening to this,
if you're a Democrat, if you're a centrist, but you
do support Israel, ask yourself, is there room left in
the Democrat Party for theirs views? I don't see a
whole lot of it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, you're right, well, And that brings me to what's
happening now. Clearly, the people around Joe Biden have said
to him over and over and over and over again
that he needs to quiet down on his public support
of Israel. And the White House was asked about that.
John Kirby was asked about it, and here's how it
went down. When Peter Deucey asked him at the White
House Press briefing US one. Then where is President Biden
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on any of this? When he wants to talk about
how angry he is or frustrated he is about the
high cost of insulin, he comes out and gives an
impassioned speech.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Where does he on any of this?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
He's been talking about this, He's been issuing statements on us. No,
that's statement. The last I looked was public.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
But where is he?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Why isn't he here right now?
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I'm sure you'll continue to hear from the President about
this and many other national securities.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
We gotta wrap up. I love that you heard John
here in the background. We got to wrap this up.
We gotta wrap this up right now. Actions speak louder
than words, right, So if the President has some words
on a page about Israel, that says something, but he's
not saying anything publicly. It's very clear now that the
White House has turned basically a one eighty and the
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UN vote from a week ago was a lot of proof.
But now the White House is publicly not supporting Israel.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Listen, the UN vote from a week ago was I
believe orchestrated by the Biden administration. They want the United
Nations to condemn Israel. They want the United Nations to
call for an immediate cease fire. And let's be clear.
Joe Biden yesterday talked with Benjamin et Ya, who they
put out a press that they put out a readout
of the call and they said Biden Deman did an
(15:00):
immediate ceasefire. Understand, the President of the United States is
telling Israel stop killing Hamas terrorists. Now that is their position,
that you cannot kill any more terrorist. Why and listen,
it's not a national security reason. It's not a reason
that supports israel security. It's not a reason that sports
America's security. The reason is domestic politics. The angry left
(15:23):
wing Democrat Party, the anti Semites, and let's be clear,
they hate Israel and they hate Jews. And by the way,
I got to say, there are a lot of Jewish
Democrats right now in this country who are facing an
existential crisis because they have been Democrats, many of them
their entire lives. They vote Democrat. And yet they're seeing
people in the Democrat Party who despise Israel. And let's
(15:47):
be clear, who despised Jews. Listen. In the Marxist worldview,
as you know, in my book Unwoke, How to Defeat
Cultural Marxism in America, I described the cultural Marxist view
the world into oppressors and victims, and the leftists, the
leftists at universities, the anti Semits at universities, they define Jews,
(16:09):
not Israelis Jews. If you are Jewish in America, if
you are Jewish in Israel, if you're Jewish anywhere in
the world, the Marxists define you as an oppressor. You
are white, you are a capitalist, you are wealthy, you
are an oppressor. That is their worldview. And by the way,
if you're not, they think you probably want to be,
so you're an oppressor too. And they define Palestinians, all Palestinians,
(16:32):
and especially Hamas terrorists, as victims. And the cultural Marxist
support the violent, aggressive revolution of the so called victims
against the so called oppressors. And so the leftists and
the Marxists are celebrating when Hamas murders Israelis, when Hamas
murders Americans, the leftists and the Democrat Party are celebrating.
(16:56):
And this is what Joe Biden, this is what Chuck Schumer,
and sadly, this is what every Democrat and House member
on the Democrat side in the Senate and House are supporting.
And let me ask you this, so Ben, you're you're
a very sophisticated political observer. Have you seen a single Democrat,
a single Democrat member of the House, single Democrat member
(17:18):
of the Senate, call out and denounce Joe Biden this
White House for undermining Israel, for supporting Hamas and for
demanding that Israel stop killing Hamas terrorists.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
No, and not only that, to put it in perspective,
with a passing of Joe, have.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You've seen a reporter ask a Democrat that hold on, Yeah,
The answer is no, I haven't seen it either. Have
you seen one Democrat ask I'm sorry, one reporter ask
a Democrat that I haven't. I literally have not seen
a single Democrat senator, a single Democrat House member asked
that in a normal, insane world, there are five hundred
(17:54):
and thirty five members of the Senate and the House,
every one of us, myself included, should be at Now.
My answer, that's easy.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You asked me.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Do I support it? Hell no, I think it is
corrupt and evil and profoundly anti Israel. That's my answer. Now,
let's start with the remaining four hundred and thirty four.
Let them get their answers on record.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
There's also something else that's been happening. And early on
you saw some members of the squad, the aocs, Rashida Leibs,
the more extreme socialists in the Democratic Party. They were
anti Israel from day one. But we saw a shift
this last week. And I want you to hear what
(18:33):
Elizabeth Warren had to say, of course, coming from Cambridge, Massachusetts,
she goes on CNN and this is what she had
to say about Net and Yahoo.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
You talk about Netnahoo needing to be held accountable and
things that need to happen now. Last month you joined
a group of Democratic senators basically asking Joe Biden to
leverage weapon sales to Israel to pressure Netnyah who to
change tactics in Gaza. We know the administration is set
to light a huge sale worth upwards of eighteen billion
dollars to Israel, having to do with a slew of
(19:05):
F fifteen fighter jets. Do you Congress can take action
now to have a say in that. Do you want
Congress to move to block that sale?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well, I think it is clear that Congress has a
responsibility to act. We have legal tools here, and as
I said, we cannot approve the sale of arms to
a country that is in violation of our own laws
on this, and that includes access to humanitarian relief. This
(19:41):
is a moral question, it is also a legal question.
Congress has responsibility here, and I'm willing to take that responsibility.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Talk to me more about that, because I've heard a
lot of kind of conversations around possibly considering legislation to
step in. Will are you considering or will you be
putting forward legislation if that's the right term when it
comes to this to kind of start this process of
blocking the sale.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So, actually, let's let's put this in a slightly different context.
We already have an established US policy here.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
How do you make the president not doing like this?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
That's I think the best we can do here is
that we need to all be working together, and that's
the President, that's people in Congress. And I am hopeful
that when the President talks with Prime Minister net Miyahu,
he will be making it clear that support for the
actions of the Prime Minister are not He's not helping Israel,
(20:47):
he is not keeping Israel safe. And that he cannot
cannot continue to follow a policy of trying to starve
out the people of Gaza Center.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Not just as he's saying no more aid, military aid
to protect him from the terrace. She then accuses net
and Yahoo of quote trying to starve out the people
of Gaza And that's her last point that she makes
there on CNN, and CNN set her up perfectly for this.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
CNN wants to tell you that. And by the way,
you and I did a podcast a couple of months
ago that I think is a really important podcast. If
you didn't listen to it, you got to go back
and listen to it. Even better, you got to watch
it on YouTube, because this is one of our video podcasts,
and it was entitled CNN as Hamas's air Force. So
is MSNBC, so is ABC. CNN is acting as propagandists
(21:37):
for Hamas. With that, and sadly, a United States Senator,
my colleague, Elizabeth Warren was elected the same day I was,
in November of twenty twelve. She served twelve years, just
like I have. And but you know what, she was
a professor at Harvard Law School, my alma mater where
I went, and Harvard Law School is a pit of
rabid leftist, often Marxist thought, and we have seen it
(22:01):
festers anti Semitism. There's a reason Clauding Gay, the president
of Harvard, was forced to resign. There's a reason Harvard
has seen their applications plummet because the left despises Israel.
In her comments, Israel's not trying to starve at anyone.
That is grotesque, that is dishonest, that is false. But
(22:22):
understand the angry lefties who are Elizabeth Warren's base, hate hate,
hate Israel. They're not neutral, they're not ambiguous, they're not fair,
they're not objective. They cheer when pro Palestinian and pro
Hamas protesters chant from the river to the sea, what
(22:44):
is from the river to the sea mean? It means literally,
we should annihilate Israel. There should be no Jewish state
on the face of the planet. That the only thing
in the land that is now Israel should be a
new Palestinian state where apparently Jews are not welcome. That
is the view of the radicals, And sadly, Elizabeth Warren
is not an outlier. Rashida Talib is not an outliner.
(23:07):
Ilhan Omar is not an outlier. AOC is not an outlier.
Their views are reflected by Chuck Schumer and by Joe Biden.
This is the so called mainstream Democrat party. They have decided.
They've looked at the political landscape and they said, oh crap,
the crazy lefties are our base. We need them to
show up. So Israel we're willing to abandon. And that
(23:32):
that makes me incredibly sad because it's dangerous. It's dangerous
for Israel, it's dangerous for American it's dangerous for the world.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
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and this seems to be becoming a much bigger political issue.
There's reporting now that the First Lady, Joe Biden, is
urging the president privately. They've leaked this obviously so it,
(25:48):
you know, to make it look like this is really
a big issue behind closed doors. Apparently she's urging the
president privately to end the war in Gaza. Stop stop
it now. Is the quote that has quote been lead.
You also have John Kirby saying he won't clarify if
Joe Biden wants to cease fire before or after Hamas
(26:10):
releases hostages. This happening at the White House as well.
Listen and we'll clarify on the.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Ceasefire language that other president used.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
The statement, he says that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
That there should be a cease fire, and then the
next after commites, he urged Prime Minister and power negotiators
to conclude a deal without delay. So are the two
tied together, or is he saying ceasefire right now and
then the other thing later. I mean, what how immediate
is A mean?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
I can't really improve upon the president's language.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
We want to see a pause in the fighting. We
want to see a cease fire immediately so that we
can get more humanitarian assistance in and create a set
of conditions where EID organizations feel better about operating inside
GOSA because as we've already seen it as a result
(27:04):
of the attack on the WCK workers that some aid
organizations now are pulling back. So we want to see
that immediacy's fireplace. We also, of course, as we've said
many times, I think that that could also provide a
window here to get the hostages out.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Thanks, thank you so much, Thank you, Centater. It seems
to me we don't know what the foreign policy is
anymore of America with Israel and our ally in Israel,
because they can't figure out the politics of how to
play this in an election year, and they're worried about
losing younger voters, so they're trying to play both sides
at the bare minimum. But we also could be witnessing
(27:41):
for the first time in my lifetime, an actual policy change,
with Israel maybe not being our great ally in the Middle.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
East, how hard would it be for the President of
the United States to stand up and say, Hamas needs
to release the hostages now. Every American it is a
hostage should be released now. Every Israeli that is a
hostage should be released now. Every woman that you are
(28:08):
raping right now should be released today. And if you don't,
we will hunt you down, we will destroy you, we
will kill you. That's what a commander in chief who
was defending Americans. How would you feel if it was
your family, If it was your mom, if it was
your sister, if it was your daughter, if it was
(28:30):
your son or father or brother who was trapped in
hell being brutalized day after day after day. Look, I've
spoken with the families of these hostages. Some of them
been released, some of not. The agony they're feeling in
this White House, you know what, I sat on the
floor of the House and listened to it, tired State
of the Union address. I don't remember Joe Biden standing
(28:53):
up and saying Hamas, release the hostages now, or face
the holy fear of the United States of America. He
didn't say that, because you know what, his angry leftist
base would be mad at.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
That senat you. And I want to go back in
time because it's amazing how quick people forget about what
happened on that day. I've met with the Israeli government independently.
You've obviously met with them and representatives countless times. You
watched a long version of the atrocities of that day.
(29:28):
I have seen more than I wanted to, but I
think it was important with the platform that I have
to be an advocate for Israel to see it and
witness it, and I saw it much more recently. I
can't get those images out out of my head, just
how orchestrated, how barbaric, how evil the people were that
(29:52):
were doing these things to As we talked about children,
to the elderly, the elderly, it has somewhat been overlooked.
And I was watching some of this, and you watch
these elderly people. Not only were they killing the grandfathers
and great grandfathers in front of the great grandmothers and
their kids and grandkids, but they were ripping them away
(30:16):
and then taunting because they were going to go after
the women. And this was all caught on video, and
yet no one seems to be reminding people that those
are the hostages that are still being held captive right now.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
They are, And where is America? Where is the president?
Where is a Democrat calling for the release of the
American hostages? By the way, these are not many of
them are Israelis, but there are multiple American hostages that
this White House A wall doesn't even begin. It's worse
(30:52):
than a wall. If they were silent, that would be disgraceful.
But they're not silent. They're telling Israel stop trying to
kill the terrorists. Instead, reward the terrorist and give them
a nation state that is stronger than it was before
and in a better position to wage war with Israel
into murder innocent civilians going forward. That is a bizarre
(31:14):
way to respond to a horrific atrocity carried out by.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Hamas Jensaki, White House Press secretary. She obviously And this
is when you know it's a coordinated and orchestrated effort
by talking heads, former White House pressingre terry, people in
the media, people in the State Department, people in social
media circles on the left, and celebrities and others this
(31:39):
is what she had to say on Israel on MSNBC.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Well, and Jen, it's very easy for people to say
the president should do a the president should do BC.
There is also the very real possibility, and He'll say,
understand this, if the President turns on met Yahoo to belief,
the President says we're going to stop sending weapons that
(32:05):
Met and Yahoo actually uses that to gain more power
inside of Israel, saying, see, we have been abandoned even
by the United States.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
We have to fight on That's right, Joe.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
And I think that's important too. Look, clearly, the strategy
that the United States is implementing at this point is
not working to change the behavior of Prime Minister net
and Yahoo is not working to end the war. So
obviously something has to change. And I think it's pretty
clear they're discussing that, I think in the White House
and I hope in the White House in this situation
room at this point in time. The question is what
(32:40):
that will be. And there's a number of allies of
President Biden's in the Senate, Democratic senators and others who
have been pretty outspoken about the need for conditioning AID
at least as a consideration. That's Obviously something that is
being considered should be considered. The question is will that
change the behavior? And what additional leverage needs to be
(33:00):
put on Prime Minister Netnyaho at this point in time
to change the trajectory. But you're right, there's a calculation
if you're discussing this, if you're the president, if you're
the national security team, about what would prompt Prime Minister
Netanyaho to be more aggressive, what would prompt him to
be less aggressive? Obviously nothing has worked to date, But
it's it's not as easy as it sounds to make
that determination center.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Not one time did she say anything about putting pressure
on Hamas the terrorist organization or the Palestinian that are
supporting the terrorists to stop them. They don't care about Israel,
like Israel is the terrorist organization that started all this.
They were the ones that were attacked.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Look that they treat Israel as a client state. They
treat Israel as the oppressors, and understand the base of
their party believes Israel as their oppressors and also get
you know, you know, there's some folks. There's a popular
media narrative that hey, Joe Biden Israelly pro Israel. But
he's just got a political problem that that his party
(34:00):
is not That's actually not accurate. Joe Biden has been
undermining Israel for more than fifty years. Let's go back
to nineteen eighty two. Nineteen eight two was a long
time ago. Nineteen eighty two, Joe Biden was in the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He had a private meeting with
Israeli Prime Minister Man Knock and began and Joe Biden
(34:24):
decided to do what he's doing now, to threaten Israel,
to threaten We're going to cut off usaid if Israel
did not stop quote settlements in Judaea and Samaria. So
it's frankly the same thing he was saying in eighty
two is what he's saying now. We don't like Israel.
You don't have any right to settle the land of Israel,
and if you do, we're going to cut you off.
(34:44):
And here's what Megan responded to. And this is one
of the most famous responses by any Israeli Prime minister,
and it was in nineteen eighty two, so a long
long time ago. Here's what Began said to Joe Biden.
Then a senator quote, don't threaten us with cutting off
your aid. It will not work. I am not a
(35:05):
Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with
three thousand, seven hundred years of civilized history. Nobody came
to our aid when we were dying in the gas
chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we
were striving to create our country. We paid for it,
(35:28):
we fought for it, we died for it. We will
stand by our principles, we will defend them, and when necessary,
we will die for them again, with or without your aid.
That's what the Prime Minister of Israel said to Joe
Biden over forty years ago. You know what, the Prime
(35:52):
Minister of Israel is still saying that to Joe Biden.
But sadly, the entire Democrat Party is with Biden, undermining
is and effectively forming a protective shield around the Hamas
terrorists who committed the most unspeakable acts of modern times
that we have seen.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
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Send our last question for you, and it's a really
important one. If the Elizabeth Warrens, the Democratic Party, and
(38:25):
if the aocs and Rashida Leeves and others are able
to flip the script the way it seems like we're
going with the help of the media, what happens if,
in fact we don't give the AA needed and the
military weaponry needed that Israel is willing to buy from
us because this president caves and blocks it. What happens
(38:47):
to Israel?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Then well, listen, the Biden administration and the Democrats in
the Congress hope that Israel will give in that they
want to number one undermine Benjamin et Yahoo. And I'm
not listen, I'm not being partisan in this. I'm not
intuiting or supposing this. Chuck Schumer said it on the
Senate floor. He said he wants net Yahu to be
(39:08):
forced out of office. He wants Israel to have a new
election and for them to elect a prime minister whose
views he likes. And apparently the voters of Israel don't
have a right to choose their own leader. That it's
going to be the Democrats in Washington to choose that.
But look the White House and the Congressional Democrats. They
hope that by attacking Israel relentlessly, by threatening to cut
(39:29):
off money, by undermining their international support, that Israel will
get cold feet, that they will get weak knees, they
will stop attacking Hamas and in particular Rafa. Look the
Hamas leadership, the Hamas terrorists are all gathered in Rafa. Now,
I'll tell you I sat down doing a zoom call
two weeks ago with Prime Minister Netanyahu. He joined all
(39:50):
the Republican senators at our lunch. I can tell you
two weeks ago he was unequivocal. He said, we will
go to Rafa, we will enter Rafa, we will engage
in a military campaign, we will utterly eliminate Hamas, and
if America has not there, we'll do it on our own.
To be honest, what Netanyahu said it was almost word
for word webknock, and Vegan said that has not changed.
It's one of the reasons Listen, as a Texan, I've explained,
(40:14):
people have asked me a lot of times. They've said,
how is it. How did it come to pass that
a Cuban Techan Southern Baptist became the leading defender of
Israel in the Senate. And there are lots of reasons
for that, But I'll tell you one of the biggest
is the attitude of Israel. Israel is surrounded by nations
(40:37):
that would drive it into the sea, that would murder
every Israeli, every Jew if they could, and the only
reason they don't is because Israel is strong enough to
defeat them all. I got to say that is an
incredibly Texan foreign policy. It is a national security policy.
I have more than once wished that American foreign policy
could have the clarity and strength that Israel's does, and
(41:00):
so I'm not surprised that Netanyahu is saying the same
thing Knock and Megan said forty plus years later, which
is Israel only survives because they can survive. They are
not dependent on the large Yes, the welfare from Democrats
who are condescending to flick breadcrumbs from their table. But
(41:24):
I really do wonder Ben, is there one Democrat in
Congress with the guts to stand up to Biden and
say this is wrong. We stand with Israel, we stand
against Tamas, and all of the rest of this is garbage.
(41:45):
If they have I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, I agree with you, and this is going to
be such an important issue on the ballot this coming November.
Don't forget to share this please. It's an important episode
so people understand what's actually happening with Israel on social media.
Without you guys listening and putting this out the world,
no one hears it. So thank you. We need to
say that more often. We don't take you for granted.
(42:09):
Thank you for being involved in fighting for this country
and our allies. Please share this on social media wherever
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(42:33):
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