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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is a verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
with you. It is after eleven o'clock at night. I
want you to understand when we're doing this is we're
going to be talking about this breaking news that deals
with this retaliatory strike from Israel on Iran. Senator, your
initial thoughts to that.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, as we're recording this at is eleven twelve pm
on Thursday night, and what we know right now is
that Israel has launched what appears to be a series
of coordinated attacks against Iran, in Syria, in Iraq, and
Iran all at the same time. We'll get into that
on this pod in greater detail. We're also going to
(00:42):
get into the Attorney General's testimony before Congress as to
the extraordinary threat Fetanohl is that it's the most deadly
drug threat that has ever faced this country, and it
is flooding across our southern border. And finally we're going
to get into in the face of fentanyl, in the
face of this invasion in our southern border, order, every
single Democrat defied the Constitution and refused to even allow
(01:05):
an impeachment trial. I'm going to explain the constitutional issues there.
What happened and it's gonna make your blood boil.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
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that Israel responded, even though every single time they're attacked
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this administration, whether it's through the State Department or through
the President, or through the White House spokesman or Kirby
at the White House, they keep telling Israel don't respond,
don't react, don't defend yourself, don't as they describe anything
you do that looks aggressive.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We're gonna say basically no to it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Israel has a right to defend itself, and clearly they
said we're going to take steps to do that right now.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, of course Israel has a right to defend itself,
and of course, of course that's what Israel is doing.
Part of the reason that we specified the time that
this is shortly after eleven PM on Thursday, is that
it's unfolding literally this minute, and so by the time
this podcast post on Friday morning, there may have been
many more developments throughout the night and in the morning.
(03:51):
And indeed, even what we know now, I have not
had a classified briefing this evening, so I don't have
any insight beyond what has been publicly reported. And there's
always a fog of war when something is just breaking,
so we don't know the reliability of the early reports.
But what's being reported is that Israel launched a coordinated
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attack using jets and using missiles against Iran, but attacking
Iran in at least three different places, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
And before we get to anything else, Ben, it's worth
noting that the scope of the attacks show just how
far Iran's reach has extended.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Across the region.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
What does it say that if you want to strike
back in Iran, you have to do it in Iran
and Iraq and Syria because they're everywhere. And understand, Iran
is the most malevolent force in the Middle East. They
are funding the most dangerous terrorists on Earth. They fund Hamas,
ninety percent of Hamas's budget comes from Iran. They fund Hesbela,
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ninety percent of Hesbela's budget comes from Iran. And Iran,
led by the Ayatola and the Mullas, they routinely chant
death to America and death to Israel. And it's worth noting,
as you just said, from the instant October seventh happened,
the Biden administration has been telling Israel, do not retaliate,
(05:19):
do not defend yourself, do nothing. From the instant Iran
attacked Israel directly with over three hundred drones and missiles. Again,
the Biden administration's immediate refrain was do nothing, do not
defend yourself, do not retaliate it.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
It was truly absurd.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But you have to understand at every stage that has
been the mantra of the Biden White House and the
Democrats is they're undermining Israel's right to self defense. I
think absolutely Israel should respond. It is responding forcefully. I
expect them to respond significantly more forcefully. I don't anticipate
that this is the only response we will see.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And this may be.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That was the question I was gonna ask you for
just putting in context that people understand is we're recording
this after eleven o'clock at night tonight. There I don't
think there's anybody that believes that this is the end
of the response from Israel. It's probably more like the
beginning of the response.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's probably right, Although I say, we don't know what
we will see what unfolds. But you know, it was
really striking that when when the missiles and both ballistic
missiles and cruise missiles and the drones over three hundred
were launched from Iran, that there are a number of
things that are really striking. Number one, a bunch of
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them never even made it to Israel, both because their
technology was not great and also because they were shot
down in the air. They were shot down number one,
using Israel's missile defense, using iron dome and arrow two
and three those systems. But number two, they were shot
down with fighter jets. And let me say something extraordinary.
(07:01):
So the fighter jets that were shooting him down. My
understanding is you had Israeli fighter jets, but you also
had American fighter jets that were assisting and shooting them down.
But you also had and this is extraordinary, Saudy fighter
jets and Jordanian fighter jets.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Exactly why that's so significant.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Look, if I'd have told you ten years ago or
even five years ago that the Arabs would defend Israel
in a military attack against it from Iran, that would
have seen absurd. And it really is a testament. It's
a testament to the incredible progress that occurred when Donald
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Trump was president, the peace that was flowering in the
Middle East, the Abraham Accords, where we started to see
the Arabs and Israelis coming together. And I'll tell you
a big part of what brought them together was mutual
concern over the danger Iran poses, and and that h
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that this is the fruit of of of what was
planted during the Trump administration in the Abraham Accords. But
that being said, it's still remarkable. I don't believe there
is any precedent for Arabs in conflict in support of
Israel and and and so that's that's really quite remarkable.
(08:25):
And it does say something when when the Arab states
in the Middle East in some ways may be more
supportive of Israel than the Biden White House.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, great point. And there's also another a question that
I have for you. And as I was watching right
before we were we were going to record on CNN,
they were saying, well, now now that the world really
has to be concerned and worried h of of a
massive and they were using this these types of words.
Massive retaliation from Iran should be expected because Iran has
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said so, They've said that they are going to unleash
basically Holy Hell in response to what Israel has just done.
And they said it's going to be a on a
level that you know, basically no one's ever seen before.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
YadA, ya YadA. And then they said, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
This is what the Biden administration had been warning Israel about.
It is genuinely shocking to me as I was watching
that before we got on here, to think you just
want Israel to just keep taking it indefinitely and never
defend themselves and never fight back and not hit strategic
targets because of the threat that is being given by
(09:38):
the same country that literally just attacked you. What world
are they living in?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Look in many ways, Joe Biden, the Democrats are more
supportive of Iran right now than they are of Israel.
And that's an astonishing statement. Israel is our closest ally
in the Middle East. They share our values, They are
an incredibly valuable military ally to the United States. There
intelligence saves the lives of Americans. Their enemies are our enemies.
(10:04):
And yet, as we've discussed at every stage, literally from
the moment he was sworn in, Joe Biden and the
apparatics in his administration have been undermining Israel from day one,
and simultaneously they have been flooding money to Iran, billions
of dollars. And just a couple of weeks ago, when
(10:25):
I forced to vote on the Senate floor that we
should not send billions of dollars to Iran, every single
Democrat but one voted no. The Democrats keep look at
it this way. They want to send money to Iran,
and the Democrats are blocking sending money to Israel. That's extraordinary,
and it is their radical base hates Israel. The anti Semitic,
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radical left that chance from the river to the sea.
That is who the Democrat Party is terrified of. And
it's who's setting their tune and so even their talking points.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You know, look, let's go back to October seventh. Remember
the night of October seventh, the Biden State Department tweeted
out that Israel should not retaliate. That night, as twelve
hundred Israelis were being murdered, as women and children were
being raped, as some thirty Americans were being murdered, and
more were being kidnapped, as hundreds of Israelis were being kidnapped,
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the Biden administration's immediate reaction was, do not retaliate. They
did that on October seventh. They did it again on
October eighth, Tony Blinken personally. So that was the reaction
at the outset. And understand who started this war. It
was Iran. Iran funds Hasbela, Iran controls Hasbela. They are
in Iran proxy. The Wall Street Journal reported that the
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Hamas terrorists trained in Iran for October seventh. So it
was Iran that invaded Israel and murdered twelve hundred Israelis.
Imagine how America would react if that happened, and then
it was Iran again who escalated directly firing missiles and
drones from Iran into Israel. Of course Israel is going
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to defend itself and retaliate. It has to do so.
And yet the Biden administration cannot refrain from repeating Iran's
talking points of oh, well this is terrible, and now
of course Iran is going to respond massively. How about
having a president telling Iran we stand with Israel period
the end. That's what Biden should be saying, but it's
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not what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You also have to wonder will this administration change course.
And I've said this before you and I've had this
conversation several times. I never root for the United States
America to fail on national security issues, especially when it
deals with foreign nations. Right, I don't care who the
president is. I want Joe Biden to be successful in
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protecting and defending US always against oursaries as well as
our allies. And he clearly has done a one eighty
from what the Trump doctrine was foreign policy was and
to stand with Ismaie like you just mentioned, no matter what,
this is not working.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
This weak yes, and just just pause and ask yourself
which was better peace and prosperity or war everywhere you look.
That's the result of the Biden and foreign policy is
war everywhere. That's the result of the Biden. Foreign policy
is our enemies stronger, emboldened, and more threatening.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So will they look at this and at some point
do you believe that they may actually change course? Because
I mean it sincerely when I say I want us
to be safe and I want them to protect Israel.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I think they are ideologues. I think they are self righteous.
I think they are naive. I think they believe, like
a bunch of college professors in the faculty lounge, that Iran,
if we just give piece of chance, man, you know Iran,
we don't have any right to tell Iran to have nukes.
You know, So what if if they're crazy religious zealots
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who say they want to murder us, you know, if
we're just nice to them, if we just give them
a bunch of money, that they'll be our friends. Look,
it is hopeless naivete, and they believe it like a religion.
They keep doing it. Think of the the just how
devoted you have to be to appeasement to Iran? To
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in the wake of October seventh, still refuse to enforce
the oil sanctions today, yeah, this not enforce the oil sections.
And by the way, it is also worth noting today
on Friday, Biden is announcing massive sanctions against Alaska, our state,
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the National Petroleum Reserve. They are shutting down production in
It is an incredibly rich petroleum reserve in Alaska, massive reserves.
So explain to me how these anti American Marxist zelots
can possibly justify they hate oil and gas in America.
They're going to destroy jobs in America, They're gonna they're
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gonna drive up the cost of gasoline for Americans in America.
But at the same time they're going to allow Iran
to go to go from three hundred thousand barrels a
day of oil to two million barrels of oil a day.
That's what they're doing right now. And apparently Biden and
the Democrats they only like oil and gas if it's
produced by crazed Zelots who want to murder us and
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want to kill as many Israelis as possible.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What you just said made me want to talk about
funding for a second. What is sad is because the
position that you just mentioned. The Biden administration is absolutely
funding Iran and their needs. Yes, what we're not doing
right now is giving Israel funding that they need, an
aid in sport, they need, in military hardware that they
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need from the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
How is that possible?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Because the Democrat Party is captured by the radical left,
and sadly the mainstream Democrat Party has turned against Israel.
It's not just the fringe. It's not just ilhan Omar
and Taleb and AOC, It's not just the whack jobs.
It's Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer is the one that stood
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on the floor and demanded that Net and Yahoo be
thrown out of office. The democratically elected leader of Israel,
it's Joe Biden. Joe Biden is the one who orchestrated
a resolution in the United Nations effective condemning Israel for
not having an immediate cease fire.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
It's Nancy Pelosi who.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Signed a letter demanding that America cut off weapons military
weapons for Israel to defend itself. Those are not fringe Democrats.
Those are the leading Democrats in office. And that's an
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the aid package that Israel needs, what does it look
like and how quickly are we going to get an
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answer for Israel, especially if this turns into a significant
military conflict between them and Iran that goes back and forth.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
They need it now, Well, that's up in the air
right now as we sit here tonight. The House is
in the middle of debating that question right now, and
they're trying to put together an aid package and voted out.
They're putting together a big supplemental bill that they're talking about,
including Israel Aid in that they're talking about, including Ukraine
eight in, which is going to split some members of
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the House and some members of the Senate. They're talking about,
including their bill forcing China to sell TikTok, which is
a very important bill. It's going to be a big,
complicated supplemental It's not clear right now that they're going
to get the votes to pass any of it, but
they are actively battling it out in the House right
now as we speak.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
We'll keep you updated on this as it's going to
be a very quick moving next I think week week
and a half on these issues.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
We will cover it all for you.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
There's also another big warning and a moment of honesty
that came from the Attorney General, Merrick Garland.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He was in front.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Hold hold on a second, did you just say honesty
from the Attorney General, Merrit Garland?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I know, I know, it's everybody get right with the
Lord because it could be rapture alert.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Holy cow, that is a sign of the end times.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I was wondering if you were going to let me
get away with that moment, and clearly see this is
why I love doing this show because I was like.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Am setting him up? And yes, you took, you.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Took, Like the man is so smug and so dishonest.
All right, So what did he say? I mean, I
suppose even a stop clock is right twice a day?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
What what? What did he say? That that that that
was actually honest?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So the Attorney General was asked about how bad the
the fetanol not only you know deaths and abuse are,
but how much is coming across the border and how
big of a threat does he sees? The Attorney General
he was asked this question, and I want to play it.
It's it's it's a little bit longer, but it's important
because I want you to hear what he said. And
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the reason why I think this is so important is
we also have to tie this back to the impeachment
of the man. My orchists who Democrats refuse to move on.
So at the same time they're doing that, you have
the Attorney Joe going, yeah, yeah, we got a major
problem with fetnah in this country.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It's hell of a lot of people here. Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Senator Moran and I both mentioned in our opening statements,
as did you the continuing fight against the opioid epidemic,
substance misuse, the drug cartels. I continue to be very
concerned about fentanyl use and poisoning. New Hampshire has lost
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too many people to fentanyl overdoses. Can you talk a
little bit about the OJ's efforts to interdict these drugs
and efforts to find a way to prosecute those responsible.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Yes, Senator, I have said, and I deeply mean this,
that fentanyl is the dead has a drug threat that
this country has ever faced. I've met with families at
the DEA, whose children, whose teenagers, whose infants, whose grandparents
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have died, mostly not even knowing that what they're taking
is fentanyl, thinking it's another kind of prescription pill that
they were able to get over the internet. We don't
even refer to this as overdoses anymore, for this is
drug poisoning, because that's what it is. So we are
facing this with the urgency it requires.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Let me just stop there. He says, we are facing
this with the urgency that it requires. If this is
as urgent as he just said, and I want to
read that back to you, Centaer, I have said, and
I deeply mean this, that fetnah is the deadliest drug
threat that this country has ever faced. I've met with
the families at the DEA, whose children, who'se teenagers, whose infants,
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whose grandparents have died, mostly not even knowing that what
they were taking as ventnol, thinking it's another kind of
a prescription pill that they are able to get over
the internet. We don't even refer to this as overdoses anymore.
This is drug poisoning, because that's what it is. So
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then he says that we are facing this with the
urgency that it requires. If that was true, Senator, wouldn't
you be then closing the southern border and not having
it wide open like it is right now?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Of course that this is not complicated. The drug traffickers
are the human traffickers. It's the same drug cartels. In
twenty eighteen, the drug cartels made five hundred million dollars
from human trafficking. In twenty twenty two, they made thirteen
billion dollars from human trafficking. That's a twenty six hundred
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percent increase. The people making fentanyl are getting extraordinarily rich
under Joe Biden and Alejandro Majorcis and Merrick Garland's open borders.
They are flooding the border, and the human trafficking and
drug trafficking are completely intertwined. It's the same people doing it,
it's the same cartels doing it. And the way they
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do it is they'll send a flood of migrants over
one portion of the river, and border patrol will all
go there. And while border patrol is dealing with the migrants.
And by the way, because Biden's policy is catch and release,
once border patrol apprehends a group, and let's be clear,
the group is normally finding border patrol and turning themselves in,
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then the majority of agents are spending their time processing
those migrants, or staying with them in the detention facilities,
or getting them diapers, or getting them food, or caring
for this massive influx. And so the percentage of agents
on on the border that are actually deployed drops precipitously
because the vast majority of the agents are processing migrants
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and doing administrative work. And then what the cartels do
is a mile up the river, that's where they move
the fetanyl across where the border patrol agents are dealing
with the illegal immigrants, they move the fetanyl somewhere else.
And so the two are very closely intertwined. And if
Joe Biden and Mayorcis and Garland were willing to deport
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illegal immigrants and follow the law, what that would mean
is that border patrol agents could be on the border
and stop the fentanyl from coming in. But they can't.
And I'll tell you, I'll give you some amazing stats.
So do you know how much how much drugs were
seized at the southern border in March in one month?
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How much of feanyl one three and eighty nine pounds?
And understand, look, fetanyl is so powerful. Just a tiny
grain or two is enough to kill you.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Tell the story you told us a while ago.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But I think it's important for people to understand that,
just so that they have context. Fetnah is not a
heavy drug, Okay, Like you see like a kilo of
cocaine and it looks pretty heavy and pretty dense, and
then you look at you know, a kilo for example,
of marijuana. It's obviously a pretty big package. But there's
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talk about the grains when you met uh with the
agents explaining just how little can kill you, and the
story that you told with your own daughters using a
sweeten low packet.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, this is something that a DA agent told me,
and he had me and several other people take out
a packet of Sweet and Low and tear open the
packet of Sweet and Low and dump dump all the
contents out, empty all the contents. And then he said, okay,
stick your pinky and the empty empty bag of Sweet
and Low and you pull your pinky out, and there
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are two or three little grains that are on your pinky.
He said, that's enough fatanyl to kill you, just the
residue that's in the packet after you've emptied it. And
so what I did with both my daughters is I
got three packets of Sweet and Low and I tore
one open.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I had them to tear it open.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I had them empty out the contents and then then
do exactly that, because look, it's terrifying. My girls are
thirteen and sixteen.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
They're good kids.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
But what is so frightening about this epidemic is it's
not Look, it's one thing if you know a heroin
junkie on the street who's abusing drugs for years and
years and years, if they overdose, that's sad when anyone dies,
but that's the result of extended conduct. What is terrifying
about this crisis is the people who are dying are
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not drug addicts, and in many instances, they're not even
drug users in the ordinary sense of things. They're a
teenager or a young adult who goes to a party
and they're at a party and someone says, hey, you
want to try a xanax, want to try a percoset,
You want to try you know, a riddlin, And look,
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should you take those drugs if they're not prescribed to
you know? But a teenager doing that that didn't used
to be a death sentence. Because if they get a
pill that someone say god on the internet, and it
happens to have fentanyl in it, they literally can drop dead.
And that is happening over and over and over again.
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I'll give you an amazing stay.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You go back to Garland's exact words, and I think
it's important that people hear this as he described it.
We don't even refer to this as an as an
overdose or overdose anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
This is drug poisoning because that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
This is a point I've tried with my kids to
emphasize it. But it's frightening because look, teenagers do stupid things,
and it can be just one random And the reason
why Garland is right to use the term poisoning because
an overdose suggests a drug user that takes too much.
And what's happening with feanyl is you have things that
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are laced with fate fetanyl that they don't know they're
taking feentanyl. That's why it's a poisoning because taking a
xanax pill will not kill you, but if there's fentanyl
in it, and if there's a little bit too much,
you can literally just drop dead right there. And here
is the stat that is amazing and terrifying. Right now today,
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fetanyl is the number one cause of death for Americans
age eighteen to forty five, number one, number one, more
than car accidents, more than heart disease, more than anything.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
By the way, did you say to forty five?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Eighteen to forty five?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So what that means is if you remember at the
end of last year, it was eighteen to thirty nine,
so that it's expanded now to forty five.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I'm not sure if the numbers have expanded or just
the category that I'm looking at, but eighteen to forty
five it's the number one cause of death.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
And here let me give you a quote from Biden's
DEA administrator and Milgrim. She said, cartels are quote killing
Americans with fentanyl at catastrophic and record rates like we've
never seen before. And that begs the question, then, why
the hell are you making cartels incredibly rich and allowing
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them to bring ten point four million illegal immigrants into
this country?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Senator, I'm not sure what's worse.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Is it the fact that we have an Attorney general
that is genuinely being honest now with the American people
about the threat, talking about this being the number one
killer for those forty five to eighteen in this country
and knowing it and publicizing it, and then yet they're
not doing a damn thing to stop the flow of
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the drug coming across the southern border or securing that order.
So what is the takeaway for the American people? We
know that you're dying at record rates, but we need
illegal immigrants to come into fundomly change this country. So
we're willing to sacrifice your lives, and your kids' lives,
and your grandparents' lives.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
So, Ben, I'm going to give you the very sad takeaway.
The Democrats simply do not care. Now, that sounds harsh,
that sounds political, But what other conclusion can you draw
when they continue to put in place the policies that
enriches the cartels and that allows them to keep flooding
this country with fentanyl. And you know there's some irony
(31:36):
about that exchange. So the senator who was questioning Merrick
Garland was Jeene Shaheen. Jean Shaheen is a Democrat from
New Hampshire. Literally the day before yesterday, Jean Shaheen sat
on the Senate floor along with every single Democrat and
voted to shut down, to not have a trial on
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Alajandro Majorcis, to block even one word of testimony, to
block any and all evidence of the invasion at our
southern border, any and all evidence of the fentanyl poisonings.
That was a major element of why Mayorcis was impeached,
and every single Democrat voted straight party line. Look the
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vote on Wednesday, you need to understand how dramatic and
unprecedented it was. And let me say on two fronts.
Number one, twenty two times in our nation's history, the
House of Representatives has voted to impeach an individual and
has sent articles of impeachment to the Senate twenty two
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times prior to yesterday. The twenty one times in every
single time when the Senate had jurisdiction, in other words,
when the person who had been impeached hadn't died or
resigned from office. Every single time, the Senate held a trial,
hurt evidence, and then the Senators adjudicated the case, voted
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guilty or not guilty. Yesterday is the first time in
over two hundred years of our nation's history with the
Senate refused to do its job, and it defied the Constitution.
And listen, I remember well, I was standing on the
Senate floor when Harry Reid, then the Senate majority leader
in twenty thirteen, the Democrat exercised the nuclear option and
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blew up the Senate filibuster for appointees, and it did
did enormous damage to the Senate. It broke the rules
of the Senate. And I remember turning and turning to
Amy Klobuchar, Democrat senator from Minnesota at the time, and
I told her, I said, Amy, you are going to
regret this. This is going to result in a lot
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more judges and justices in the mold of antonin Scalia
and Clarence Thomas and every Democrat. Nonetheless, Lemmings jumped off
that cliff, and ironically, the Dobbs decision that overturned Roe
versus Wide never would have happened if Harry Reid the
Democrats had not nuked the filibuster in twenty thirteen. That
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was the direct result, because there's no way on earth
that Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Cony Barrett, and probably even Neil
Gorsich could have gotten sixty votes to get confirmed, which
is what would have been required if the filibuster still existed.
And what happened yesterday is the Democrats nuked not the
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Senate rules, but the Constitution, the Constitution's power of impeachment
for the Senate. And as a result of yesterday, never
again will there be an impeachment trial when the Senate
is of the same party as the president. And so,
by the way, this could happen less than a year
from now. I think it is likely that Donald Trump
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is going to win in November.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I hope he does.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I think it is likely that Republicans are going to
take the Senate.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I hope we do.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It is also possible, unfortunately, that Democrats take the House.
I hope they don't, but it is a real possibility.
It's a very very close majority if that happens. If
we start January of next year with a Democrat House,
a Republican Senate, and Trump in the White House, I'm
here to predict what's going to happen. The Democrats are
going to impeach Donald Trump again a third time, and
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who knows, maybe a fourth and a fifth time. They
hate him. They'll do it again if they have a
majority in the House. But you know what will happen.
If they do that, they'll send it to the Senate,
and I guarantee you a Senate, Republicans are going to say, nope,
we're not having a trial. We're going to follow the
Democrat president. What's good for the goose is good for
the gander. So no trial for you. That's a bad thing.
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And by the way, it is worth noting that was
the scenario for the first Trump impeachment. The first Trump impeachment,
there was a Democrat House, a Republican Senate, and obviously
Trump was in the White House, and we could have
done what Chuck Schumer and the Democrats did yesterday, but
we didn't. We could have just thrown it out at
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the outset, but we said, no, we have a constitutional
responsibility to hold a trial. We think this impeachment is garbage,
but we have a responsibility to respect the constitution and
allow the house managers to present their case and then
to make it adjudication.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And it's sad because now there's this, like you said,
it doesn't matter what you do. If you're in the
party that has majority, you can pretty much get away
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people understand how they pulled this off?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Well, at one pm yesterday we convened on the Senate floor.
This is pursue it to the Senate rules. When we
enter impeachment, we were all sworn in and then we
all sign the oath Book, one at a time. We
signed the oath Book. And what is supposed to happen
next is that we adopt a resolution laying out a
trial schedule of how the House managers are going to
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present their case. But instead what happened is Chuck Schumer
rose on a constitutional point of order, and a constitutional
point of order as you stand and say, what is
on the floor violates the Constitution. And he raised a
constitutional point of order and he said Article one, the
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first article sent over by the House does not allege
a high crime or misdemeanor. And so what happened next
is we voted on whether Article one alleged a high
crime or misdemeanor. High crime and misdemeanor is what you
need to be able to impeach someone. Now, Article one
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focused on Alejandro Majorcis's defiance of federal law, that that
that that he was refusing to follow explicit and clear
federal law, federal law that that says that that illegal
immigrants shall be detained, that that illegal immigrants with criminal
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conviction shall be detained and shall be deported over and
over again. Immigration law is mandatory. It says shall shall,
shall shall, and he's defying it at a level it's
never happened before. It's not that he's bad at his job.
It's that he is utterly flouting and defying federal law.
And that that's the first article of impeachment. And they argued, well,
(40:38):
actually they didn't argue. They just made a motion that
it's not a high crime or misdemeanor. They presented no argument.
They they did not give a legal argument, they did
not write a brief, they did not present an argument.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
And and I was the.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Person who who who raised the lead objection to that. Now,
under the impeachment rules, you can't debate on the Senate floor.
You're supposed to be silent because you're jurors. I'm just saying,
why is that? But that makes sense because your juror
not a lawyer. I guess presenting right, right, And so
(41:13):
I made a motion for us to move into executive session.
If we move into executive session, we throw the reporters out,
we turned the TV cameras off, but then we can
debate it. And I said, look, you're making a major
legal point. You presented no argument, and what you're saying
is quality is fundamentally wrong.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
And I'll tell you the amazing thing is.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
The idea that refusing to follow the law, defying the
law is not a high crime and misdemeanor is not impeachable.
It is contrary to the original understanding of the Constitution.
Joseph Story, who was a Supreme Court justice, one of
the leading constitutional scholars right at the very beginning of
our country, and his commentaries in the Constitution are widely
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cited for understanding what the founding generation believed the Constitution
to mean. And he talked about he wrote at length
about high crimes and misdemeanors, and he gave lots of examples,
including the Lord Admiral refusing to protect the high seas,
and he said, that is a high crime or misdemeanor,
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and that is virtually analogous, very closely analogous to the
head of Homeland Security refusing to secure the border. It's
the same principle of allowing lawless piracy to threaten and
invade America. So Joseph's story and the founding generation understood
this to be a high crime and misdemeanor. And amazingly enough,
(42:41):
Ben the Biden Justice Department argued in front of the U. S.
Supreme Court that impeachment was the remedy for the Biden
administration refusing to follow the law. So in Texas versus
the United States, Texas sued the Biden administration for refusing
to secure the border, and the Supreme Court ended up
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agreeing with the Biden administration and saying, well, Texas can't
sue and the Biden doj The Solicitor General for Biden argued, look,
if you have a cabinet member who's refusing to follow
the law, Congress has remedies, including impeachment. And so I
stood up and said, listen, the Biden Department of Justice
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argued last year this was impeachable. It didn't matter. Every
single Democrat, all of them. And by the way, even
the so called moderates Joe Manchin and Cursten Cinema, they
voted also Nope, not a high crime or misdemeanor. And
as a result, because they had to have a majority,
the point of order carried. They got fifty one votes
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for it. And so the first article was thrown out,
and then they did it again on the second one.
And I'll tell you the second one is even more astonishing.
So as a result of the first vote, it is
now the position of Democrats that any cabinet member can
refuse to follow the law and defy the law and
utterly ignore the law, and you can't impeach him for it.
I mean, that's an astonishing and dangerous proposition in Democrat
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looney land. But the second article of impeachment was for
breach of trust, and it focused on majorcas repeatedly lying
to Congress under oath about what was happening at the border.
And again Chuck Schumer rose on a point of order
and said this is not a high crime or misdemeanor.
Now mind you, they're saying lying under oath to Congress
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is not impeachable. It is a felony. It is a
felony that you can serve jail time for. And it's
worth remembering Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury. The House
impeached him, and what did the Senate do. They didn't
throw it out, they didn't dismiss it. The House managers
presented the case, they hurt and conducted a trial, and
ultimately the Senate acquitted him. But they did their duty
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to hold a trial. And actually before that, there's someone
I'm sure you've never heard of, a guy named Walter Nixon.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
You know who Walter Nixon was?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Who is that?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Walter Nixon was a federal judge. He was a federal
judge actually from Mississippi. You're an all MS grad. He
was a federal judge from Mississippi. But he was not
a good guy. And he was convicted a perjury before
a grand jury. And you know what happened. The Congress
impeached him, The House impeached him, the Senate convicted him,
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and he was removed as a federal judge for perjury.
So even though it was clear, there was clear precedent
that yes, perjury, lying under oath is a high crime
or misdemeanor, it is impeachable, every single Senate Democrat voted
that it's not a high crime or misdemeanor. So now apparently,
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again in Democrat Wonderland, lying to Congress is AOK. And understand,
this was not about the Constitution. They didn't care. They
had no arguments as to why the Constitution said this.
This was about power, and this was about protecting their
political backsides because they're terrified of the American people hearing
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what is happening at the border, the fentanyl, the deaths,
the rapes, the children being abused. They do not want
that evidence before the American people. And I'll say this
is a final point to wrap up. Do you want
to see proof of why this is all political and
why the Democrats did what they did?
Speaker 4 (46:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (46:35):
You know what, you know what ms you know what,
MSNBC and CNN covered all day yesterday, Trump, the Trump Trial,
Stormy Daniels, ooh smut lying processing Like apparently there was
no impeachment proceeding in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Nothing happened. There's no border crisis.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
The only thing they would cover is is the attack
on Trump.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Facts, don't forget. By the way, this is a really
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in Review.
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is a verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
with you. It is after eleven o'clock at night. I
want you to understand when we're doing this is we're
going to be talking about this breaking news that deals
with this retaliatory strike from Israel on Iran. Senator, your
initial thoughts to that.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, as we're recording this at is eleven twelve pm
on Thursday night, and what we know right now is
that Israel has launched what appears to be a series
of coordinated attacks against Iran, in Syria, in Iraq, and
Iran all at the same time. We'll get into that
on this pod in greater detail. We're also going to
(00:42):
get into the Attorney General's testimony before Congress as to
the extraordinary threat Fetanohl is that it's the most deadly
drug threat that has ever faced this country, and it
is flooding across our southern border. And finally we're going
to get into in the face of fentanyl, in the
face of this invasion in our southern border, order, every
single Democrat defied the Constitution and refused to even allow
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an impeachment trial. I'm going to explain the constitutional issues there.
What happened and it's gonna make your blood boil.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
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that Israel responded, even though every single time they're attacked
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this administration, whether it's through the State Department or through
the President, or through the White House spokesman or Kirby
at the White House, they keep telling Israel don't respond,
don't react, don't defend yourself, don't as they describe anything
you do that looks aggressive.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We're gonna say basically no to it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Israel has a right to defend itself, and clearly they
said we're going to take steps to do that right now.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, of course Israel has a right to defend itself,
and of course, of course that's what Israel is doing.
Part of the reason that we specified the time that
this is shortly after eleven PM on Thursday, is that
it's unfolding literally this minute, and so by the time
this podcast post on Friday morning, there may have been
many more developments throughout the night and in the morning.
(03:51):
And indeed, even what we know now, I have not
had a classified briefing this evening, so I don't have
any insight beyond what has been publicly reported. And there's
always a fog of war when something is just breaking,
so we don't know the reliability of the early reports.
But what's being reported is that Israel launched a coordinated
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attack using jets and using missiles against Iran, but attacking
Iran in at least three different places, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
And before we get to anything else, Ben, it's worth
noting that the scope of the attacks show just how
far Iran's reach has extended.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Across the region.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
What does it say that if you want to strike
back in Iran, you have to do it in Iran
and Iraq and Syria because they're everywhere. And understand, Iran
is the most malevolent force in the Middle East. They
are funding the most dangerous terrorists on Earth. They fund Hamas,
ninety percent of Hamas's budget comes from Iran. They fund Hesbela,
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ninety percent of Hesbela's budget comes from Iran. And Iran,
led by the Ayatola and the Mullas, they routinely chant
death to America and death to Israel. And it's worth noting,
as you just said, from the instant October seventh happened,
the Biden administration has been telling Israel, do not retaliate,
(05:19):
do not defend yourself, do nothing. From the instant Iran
attacked Israel directly with over three hundred drones and missiles. Again,
the Biden administration's immediate refrain was do nothing, do not
defend yourself, do not retaliate it.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
It was truly absurd.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But you have to understand at every stage that has
been the mantra of the Biden White House and the
Democrats is they're undermining Israel's right to self defense. I
think absolutely Israel should respond. It is responding forcefully. I
expect them to respond significantly more forcefully. I don't anticipate
that this is the only response we will see.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And this may be.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That was the question I was gonna ask you for
just putting in context that people understand is we're recording
this after eleven o'clock at night tonight. There I don't
think there's anybody that believes that this is the end
of the response from Israel. It's probably more like the
beginning of the response.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's probably right, Although I say, we don't know what
we will see what unfolds. But you know, it was
really striking that when when the missiles and both ballistic
missiles and cruise missiles and the drones over three hundred
were launched from Iran, that there are a number of
things that are really striking. Number one, a bunch of
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them never even made it to Israel, both because their
technology was not great and also because they were shot
down in the air. They were shot down number one,
using Israel's missile defense, using iron dome and arrow two
and three those systems. But number two, they were shot
down with fighter jets. And let me say something extraordinary.
(07:01):
So the fighter jets that were shooting him down. My
understanding is you had Israeli fighter jets, but you also
had American fighter jets that were assisting and shooting them down.
But you also had and this is extraordinary, Saudy fighter
jets and Jordanian fighter jets.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Exactly why that's so significant.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Look, if I'd have told you ten years ago or
even five years ago that the Arabs would defend Israel
in a military attack against it from Iran, that would
have seen absurd. And it really is a testament. It's
a testament to the incredible progress that occurred when Donald
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Trump was president, the peace that was flowering in the
Middle East, the Abraham Accords, where we started to see
the Arabs and Israelis coming together. And I'll tell you
a big part of what brought them together was mutual
concern over the danger Iran poses, and and that h
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that this is the fruit of of of what was
planted during the Trump administration in the Abraham Accords. But
that being said, it's still remarkable. I don't believe there
is any precedent for Arabs in conflict in support of
Israel and and and so that's that's really quite remarkable.
(08:25):
And it does say something when when the Arab states
in the Middle East in some ways may be more
supportive of Israel than the Biden White House.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, great point. And there's also another a question that
I have for you. And as I was watching right
before we were we were going to record on CNN,
they were saying, well, now now that the world really
has to be concerned and worried h of of a
massive and they were using this these types of words.
Massive retaliation from Iran should be expected because Iran has
(08:58):
said so, They've said that they are going to unleash
basically Holy Hell in response to what Israel has just done.
And they said it's going to be a on a
level that you know, basically no one's ever seen before.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
YadA, ya YadA. And then they said, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
This is what the Biden administration had been warning Israel about.
It is genuinely shocking to me as I was watching
that before we got on here, to think you just
want Israel to just keep taking it indefinitely and never
defend themselves and never fight back and not hit strategic
targets because of the threat that is being given by
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the same country that literally just attacked you. What world
are they living in?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Look in many ways, Joe Biden, the Democrats are more
supportive of Iran right now than they are of Israel.
And that's an astonishing statement. Israel is our closest ally
in the Middle East. They share our values, They are
an incredibly valuable military ally to the United States. There
intelligence saves the lives of Americans. Their enemies are our enemies.
(10:04):
And yet, as we've discussed at every stage, literally from
the moment he was sworn in, Joe Biden and the
apparatics in his administration have been undermining Israel from day one,
and simultaneously they have been flooding money to Iran, billions
of dollars. And just a couple of weeks ago, when
(10:25):
I forced to vote on the Senate floor that we
should not send billions of dollars to Iran, every single
Democrat but one voted no. The Democrats keep look at
it this way. They want to send money to Iran,
and the Democrats are blocking sending money to Israel. That's extraordinary,
and it is their radical base hates Israel. The anti Semitic,
(10:51):
radical left that chance from the river to the sea.
That is who the Democrat Party is terrified of. And
it's who's setting their tune and so even their talking points.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You know, look, let's go back to October seventh. Remember
the night of October seventh, the Biden State Department tweeted
out that Israel should not retaliate. That night, as twelve
hundred Israelis were being murdered, as women and children were
being raped, as some thirty Americans were being murdered, and
more were being kidnapped, as hundreds of Israelis were being kidnapped,
(11:29):
the Biden administration's immediate reaction was, do not retaliate. They
did that on October seventh. They did it again on
October eighth, Tony Blinken personally. So that was the reaction
at the outset. And understand who started this war. It
was Iran. Iran funds Hasbela, Iran controls Hasbela. They are
in Iran proxy. The Wall Street Journal reported that the
(11:50):
Hamas terrorists trained in Iran for October seventh. So it
was Iran that invaded Israel and murdered twelve hundred Israelis.
Imagine how America would react if that happened, and then
it was Iran again who escalated directly firing missiles and
drones from Iran into Israel. Of course Israel is going
(12:11):
to defend itself and retaliate. It has to do so.
And yet the Biden administration cannot refrain from repeating Iran's
talking points of oh, well this is terrible, and now
of course Iran is going to respond massively. How about
having a president telling Iran we stand with Israel period
the end. That's what Biden should be saying, but it's
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not what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You also have to wonder will this administration change course.
And I've said this before you and I've had this
conversation several times. I never root for the United States
America to fail on national security issues, especially when it
deals with foreign nations. Right, I don't care who the
president is. I want Joe Biden to be successful in
(12:56):
protecting and defending US always against oursaries as well as
our allies. And he clearly has done a one eighty
from what the Trump doctrine was foreign policy was and
to stand with Ismaie like you just mentioned, no matter what,
this is not working.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
This weak yes, and just just pause and ask yourself
which was better peace and prosperity or war everywhere you look.
That's the result of the Biden and foreign policy is
war everywhere. That's the result of the Biden. Foreign policy
is our enemies stronger, emboldened, and more threatening.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So will they look at this and at some point
do you believe that they may actually change course? Because
I mean it sincerely when I say I want us
to be safe and I want them to protect Israel.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I think they are ideologues. I think they are self righteous.
I think they are naive. I think they believe, like
a bunch of college professors in the faculty lounge, that Iran,
if we just give piece of chance, man, you know Iran,
we don't have any right to tell Iran to have nukes.
You know, So what if if they're crazy religious zealots
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who say they want to murder us, you know, if
we're just nice to them, if we just give them
a bunch of money, that they'll be our friends. Look,
it is hopeless naivete, and they believe it like a religion.
They keep doing it. Think of the the just how
devoted you have to be to appeasement to Iran? To
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in the wake of October seventh, still refuse to enforce
the oil sanctions today, yeah, this not enforce the oil sections.
And by the way, it is also worth noting today
on Friday, Biden is announcing massive sanctions against Alaska, our state,
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the National Petroleum Reserve. They are shutting down production in
It is an incredibly rich petroleum reserve in Alaska, massive reserves.
So explain to me how these anti American Marxist zelots
can possibly justify they hate oil and gas in America.
They're going to destroy jobs in America, They're gonna they're
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gonna drive up the cost of gasoline for Americans in America.
But at the same time they're going to allow Iran
to go to go from three hundred thousand barrels a
day of oil to two million barrels of oil a day.
That's what they're doing right now. And apparently Biden and
the Democrats they only like oil and gas if it's
produced by crazed Zelots who want to murder us and
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want to kill as many Israelis as possible.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What you just said made me want to talk about
funding for a second. What is sad is because the
position that you just mentioned. The Biden administration is absolutely
funding Iran and their needs. Yes, what we're not doing
right now is giving Israel funding that they need, an
aid in sport, they need, in military hardware that they
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need from the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
How is that possible?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Because the Democrat Party is captured by the radical left,
and sadly the mainstream Democrat Party has turned against Israel.
It's not just the fringe. It's not just ilhan Omar
and Taleb and AOC, It's not just the whack jobs.
It's Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer is the one that stood
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on the floor and demanded that Net and Yahoo be
thrown out of office. The democratically elected leader of Israel,
it's Joe Biden. Joe Biden is the one who orchestrated
a resolution in the United Nations effective condemning Israel for
not having an immediate cease fire.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
It's Nancy Pelosi who.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Signed a letter demanding that America cut off weapons military
weapons for Israel to defend itself. Those are not fringe Democrats.
Those are the leading Democrats in office. And that's an
enormous problem. I had forty a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
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like and how quickly are we going to get an
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answer for Israel, especially if this turns into a significant
military conflict between them and Iran that goes back and forth.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
They need it now, Well, that's up in the air
right now as we sit here tonight. The House is
in the middle of debating that question right now, and
they're trying to put together an aid package and voted out.
They're putting together a big supplemental bill that they're talking about,
including Israel Aid in that they're talking about, including Ukraine
eight in, which is going to split some members of
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the House and some members of the Senate. They're talking about,
including their bill forcing China to sell TikTok, which is
a very important bill. It's going to be a big,
complicated supplemental It's not clear right now that they're going
to get the votes to pass any of it, but
they are actively battling it out in the House right
now as we speak.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
We'll keep you updated on this as it's going to
be a very quick moving next I think week week
and a half on these issues.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
We will cover it all for you.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
There's also another big warning and a moment of honesty
that came from the Attorney General, Merrick Garland.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He was in front.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Hold hold on a second, did you just say honesty
from the Attorney General, Merrit Garland?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I know, I know, it's everybody get right with the
Lord because it could be rapture alert.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Holy cow, that is a sign of the end times.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I was wondering if you were going to let me
get away with that moment, and clearly see this is
why I love doing this show because I was like.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Am setting him up? And yes, you took, you.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Took, Like the man is so smug and so dishonest.
All right, So what did he say? I mean, I
suppose even a stop clock is right twice a day?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
What what? What did he say? That that that that
was actually honest?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So the Attorney General was asked about how bad the
the fetanol not only you know deaths and abuse are,
but how much is coming across the border and how
big of a threat does he sees? The Attorney General
he was asked this question, and I want to play it.
It's it's it's a little bit longer, but it's important
because I want you to hear what he said. And
(20:59):
the reason why I think this is so important is
we also have to tie this back to the impeachment
of the man. My orchists who Democrats refuse to move on.
So at the same time they're doing that, you have
the Attorney Joe going, yeah, yeah, we got a major
problem with fetnah in this country.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It's hell of a lot of people here. Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Senator Moran and I both mentioned in our opening statements,
as did you the continuing fight against the opioid epidemic,
substance misuse, the drug cartels. I continue to be very
concerned about fentanyl use and poisoning. New Hampshire has lost
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too many people to fentanyl overdoses. Can you talk a
little bit about the OJ's efforts to interdict these drugs
and efforts to find a way to prosecute those responsible.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Yes, Senator, I have said, and I deeply mean this,
that fentanyl is the dead has a drug threat that
this country has ever faced. I've met with families at
the DEA, whose children, whose teenagers, whose infants, whose grandparents
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have died, mostly not even knowing that what they're taking
is fentanyl, thinking it's another kind of prescription pill that
they were able to get over the internet. We don't
even refer to this as overdoses anymore, for this is
drug poisoning, because that's what it is. So we are
facing this with the urgency it requires.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Let me just stop there. He says, we are facing
this with the urgency that it requires. If this is
as urgent as he just said, and I want to
read that back to you, Centaer, I have said, and
I deeply mean this, that fetnah is the deadliest drug
threat that this country has ever faced. I've met with
the families at the DEA, whose children, who'se teenagers, whose infants,
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whose grandparents have died, mostly not even knowing that what
they were taking as ventnol, thinking it's another kind of
a prescription pill that they are able to get over
the internet. We don't even refer to this as overdoses anymore.
This is drug poisoning, because that's what it is. So
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then he says that we are facing this with the
urgency that it requires. If that was true, Senator, wouldn't
you be then closing the southern border and not having
it wide open like it is right now?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Of course that this is not complicated. The drug traffickers
are the human traffickers. It's the same drug cartels. In
twenty eighteen, the drug cartels made five hundred million dollars
from human trafficking. In twenty twenty two, they made thirteen
billion dollars from human trafficking. That's a twenty six hundred
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percent increase. The people making fentanyl are getting extraordinarily rich
under Joe Biden and Alejandro Majorcis and Merrick Garland's open borders.
They are flooding the border, and the human trafficking and
drug trafficking are completely intertwined. It's the same people doing it,
it's the same cartels doing it. And the way they
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do it is they'll send a flood of migrants over
one portion of the river, and border patrol will all
go there. And while border patrol is dealing with the migrants.
And by the way, because Biden's policy is catch and release,
once border patrol apprehends a group, and let's be clear,
the group is normally finding border patrol and turning themselves in,
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then the majority of agents are spending their time processing
those migrants, or staying with them in the detention facilities,
or getting them diapers, or getting them food, or caring
for this massive influx. And so the percentage of agents
on on the border that are actually deployed drops precipitously
because the vast majority of the agents are processing migrants
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and doing administrative work. And then what the cartels do
is a mile up the river, that's where they move
the fetanyl across where the border patrol agents are dealing
with the illegal immigrants, they move the fetanyl somewhere else.
And so the two are very closely intertwined. And if
Joe Biden and Mayorcis and Garland were willing to deport
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illegal immigrants and follow the law, what that would mean
is that border patrol agents could be on the border
and stop the fentanyl from coming in. But they can't.
And I'll tell you, I'll give you some amazing stats.
So do you know how much how much drugs were
seized at the southern border in March in one month?
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How much of feanyl one three and eighty nine pounds?
And understand, look, fetanyl is so powerful. Just a tiny
grain or two is enough to kill you.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Tell the story you told us a while ago.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
But I think it's important for people to understand that,
just so that they have context. Fetnah is not a
heavy drug, Okay, Like you see like a kilo of
cocaine and it looks pretty heavy and pretty dense, and
then you look at you know, a kilo for example,
of marijuana. It's obviously a pretty big package. But there's
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talk about the grains when you met uh with the
agents explaining just how little can kill you, and the
story that you told with your own daughters using a
sweeten low packet.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, this is something that a DA agent told me,
and he had me and several other people take out
a packet of Sweet and Low and tear open the
packet of Sweet and Low and dump dump all the
contents out, empty all the contents. And then he said, okay,
stick your pinky and the empty empty bag of Sweet
and Low and you pull your pinky out, and there
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are two or three little grains that are on your pinky.
He said, that's enough fatanyl to kill you, just the
residue that's in the packet after you've emptied it. And
so what I did with both my daughters is I
got three packets of Sweet and Low and I tore
one open.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I had them to tear it open.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I had them empty out the contents and then then
do exactly that, because look, it's terrifying. My girls are
thirteen and sixteen.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
They're good kids.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
But what is so frightening about this epidemic is it's
not Look, it's one thing if you know a heroin
junkie on the street who's abusing drugs for years and
years and years, if they overdose, that's sad when anyone dies,
but that's the result of extended conduct. What is terrifying
about this crisis is the people who are dying are
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not drug addicts, and in many instances, they're not even
drug users in the ordinary sense of things. They're a
teenager or a young adult who goes to a party
and they're at a party and someone says, hey, you
want to try a xanax, want to try a percoset,
You want to try you know, a riddlin, And look,
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should you take those drugs if they're not prescribed to
you know? But a teenager doing that that didn't used
to be a death sentence. Because if they get a
pill that someone say god on the internet, and it
happens to have fentanyl in it, they literally can drop dead.
And that is happening over and over and over again.
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I'll give you an amazing stay.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You go back to Garland's exact words, and I think
it's important that people hear this as he described it.
We don't even refer to this as an as an
overdose or overdose anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
This is drug poisoning because that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
This is a point I've tried with my kids to
emphasize it. But it's frightening because look, teenagers do stupid things,
and it can be just one random And the reason
why Garland is right to use the term poisoning because
an overdose suggests a drug user that takes too much.
And what's happening with feanyl is you have things that
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are laced with fate fetanyl that they don't know they're
taking feentanyl. That's why it's a poisoning because taking a
xanax pill will not kill you, but if there's fentanyl
in it, and if there's a little bit too much,
you can literally just drop dead right there. And here
is the stat that is amazing and terrifying. Right now today,
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fetanyl is the number one cause of death for Americans
age eighteen to forty five, number one, number one, more
than car accidents, more than heart disease, more than anything.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
By the way, did you say to forty five?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Eighteen to forty five?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So what that means is if you remember at the
end of last year, it was eighteen to thirty nine,
so that it's expanded now to forty five.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I'm not sure if the numbers have expanded or just
the category that I'm looking at, but eighteen to forty
five it's the number one cause of death.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
And here let me give you a quote from Biden's
DEA administrator and Milgrim. She said, cartels are quote killing
Americans with fentanyl at catastrophic and record rates like we've
never seen before. And that begs the question, then, why
the hell are you making cartels incredibly rich and allowing
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them to bring ten point four million illegal immigrants into
this country?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Senator, I'm not sure what's worse.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Is it the fact that we have an Attorney general
that is genuinely being honest now with the American people
about the threat, talking about this being the number one
killer for those forty five to eighteen in this country
and knowing it and publicizing it, and then yet they're
not doing a damn thing to stop the flow of
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the drug coming across the southern border or securing that order.
So what is the takeaway for the American people? We
know that you're dying at record rates, but we need
illegal immigrants to come into fundomly change this country. So
we're willing to sacrifice your lives, and your kids' lives,
and your grandparents' lives.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
So, Ben, I'm going to give you the very sad takeaway.
The Democrats simply do not care. Now, that sounds harsh,
that sounds political, But what other conclusion can you draw
when they continue to put in place the policies that
enriches the cartels and that allows them to keep flooding
this country with fentanyl. And you know there's some irony
(31:36):
about that exchange. So the senator who was questioning Merrick
Garland was Jeene Shaheen. Jean Shaheen is a Democrat from
New Hampshire. Literally the day before yesterday, Jean Shaheen sat
on the Senate floor along with every single Democrat and
voted to shut down, to not have a trial on
(32:00):
Alajandro Majorcis, to block even one word of testimony, to
block any and all evidence of the invasion at our
southern border, any and all evidence of the fentanyl poisonings.
That was a major element of why Mayorcis was impeached,
and every single Democrat voted straight party line. Look the
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vote on Wednesday, you need to understand how dramatic and
unprecedented it was. And let me say on two fronts.
Number one, twenty two times in our nation's history, the
House of Representatives has voted to impeach an individual and
has sent articles of impeachment to the Senate twenty two
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times prior to yesterday. The twenty one times in every
single time when the Senate had jurisdiction, in other words,
when the person who had been impeached hadn't died or
resigned from office. Every single time, the Senate held a trial,
hurt evidence, and then the Senators adjudicated the case, voted
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guilty or not guilty. Yesterday is the first time in
over two hundred years of our nation's history with the
Senate refused to do its job, and it defied the Constitution.
And listen, I remember well, I was standing on the
Senate floor when Harry Reid, then the Senate majority leader
in twenty thirteen, the Democrat exercised the nuclear option and
(33:28):
blew up the Senate filibuster for appointees, and it did
did enormous damage to the Senate. It broke the rules
of the Senate. And I remember turning and turning to
Amy Klobuchar, Democrat senator from Minnesota at the time, and
I told her, I said, Amy, you are going to
regret this. This is going to result in a lot
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more judges and justices in the mold of antonin Scalia
and Clarence Thomas and every Democrat. Nonetheless, Lemmings jumped off
that cliff, and ironically, the Dobbs decision that overturned Roe
versus Wide never would have happened if Harry Reid the
Democrats had not nuked the filibuster in twenty thirteen. That
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was the direct result, because there's no way on earth
that Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Cony Barrett, and probably even Neil
Gorsich could have gotten sixty votes to get confirmed, which
is what would have been required if the filibuster still existed.
And what happened yesterday is the Democrats nuked not the
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Senate rules, but the Constitution, the Constitution's power of impeachment
for the Senate. And as a result of yesterday, never
again will there be an impeachment trial when the Senate
is of the same party as the president. And so,
by the way, this could happen less than a year
from now. I think it is likely that Donald Trump
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is going to win in November.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I hope he does.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I think it is likely that Republicans are going to
take the Senate.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I hope we do.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It is also possible, unfortunately, that Democrats take the House.
I hope they don't, but it is a real possibility.
It's a very very close majority if that happens. If
we start January of next year with a Democrat House,
a Republican Senate, and Trump in the White House, I'm
here to predict what's going to happen. The Democrats are
going to impeach Donald Trump again a third time, and
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who knows, maybe a fourth and a fifth time. They
hate him. They'll do it again if they have a
majority in the House. But you know what will happen.
If they do that, they'll send it to the Senate,
and I guarantee you a Senate, Republicans are going to say, nope,
we're not having a trial. We're going to follow the
Democrat president. What's good for the goose is good for
the gander. So no trial for you. That's a bad thing.
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And by the way, it is worth noting that was
the scenario for the first Trump impeachment. The first Trump impeachment,
there was a Democrat House, a Republican Senate, and obviously
Trump was in the White House, and we could have
done what Chuck Schumer and the Democrats did yesterday, but
we didn't. We could have just thrown it out at
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the outset, but we said, no, we have a constitutional
responsibility to hold a trial. We think this impeachment is garbage,
but we have a responsibility to respect the constitution and
allow the house managers to present their case and then
to make it adjudication.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And it's sad because now there's this, like you said,
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Speaker 3 (38:51):
Well, at one pm yesterday we convened on the Senate floor.
This is pursue it to the Senate rules. When we
enter impeachment, we were all sworn in and then we
all sign the oath Book, one at a time. We
signed the oath Book. And what is supposed to happen
next is that we adopt a resolution laying out a
trial schedule of how the House managers are going to
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present their case. But instead what happened is Chuck Schumer
rose on a constitutional point of order, and a constitutional
point of order as you stand and say, what is
on the floor violates the Constitution. And he raised a
constitutional point of order and he said Article one, the
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first article sent over by the House does not allege
a high crime or misdemeanor. And so what happened next
is we voted on whether Article one alleged a high
crime or misdemeanor. High crime and misdemeanor is what you
need to be able to impeach someone. Now, Article one
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focused on Alejandro Majorcis's defiance of federal law, that that
that that he was refusing to follow explicit and clear
federal law, federal law that that says that that illegal
immigrants shall be detained, that that illegal immigrants with criminal
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conviction shall be detained and shall be deported over and
over again. Immigration law is mandatory. It says shall shall,
shall shall, and he's defying it at a level it's
never happened before. It's not that he's bad at his job.
It's that he is utterly flouting and defying federal law.
And that that's the first article of impeachment. And they argued, well,
(40:38):
actually they didn't argue. They just made a motion that
it's not a high crime or misdemeanor. They presented no argument.
They they did not give a legal argument, they did
not write a brief, they did not present an argument.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
And and I was the.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Person who who who raised the lead objection to that. Now,
under the impeachment rules, you can't debate on the Senate floor.
You're supposed to be silent because you're jurors. I'm just saying,
why is that? But that makes sense because your juror
not a lawyer. I guess presenting right, right, And so
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I made a motion for us to move into executive session.
If we move into executive session, we throw the reporters out,
we turned the TV cameras off, but then we can
debate it. And I said, look, you're making a major
legal point. You presented no argument, and what you're saying
is quality is fundamentally wrong.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
And I'll tell you the amazing thing is.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
The idea that refusing to follow the law, defying the
law is not a high crime and misdemeanor is not impeachable.
It is contrary to the original understanding of the Constitution.
Joseph Story, who was a Supreme Court justice, one of
the leading constitutional scholars right at the very beginning of
our country, and his commentaries in the Constitution are widely
(41:59):
cited for understanding what the founding generation believed the Constitution
to mean. And he talked about he wrote at length
about high crimes and misdemeanors, and he gave lots of examples,
including the Lord Admiral refusing to protect the high seas,
and he said, that is a high crime or misdemeanor,
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and that is virtually analogous, very closely analogous to the
head of Homeland Security refusing to secure the border. It's
the same principle of allowing lawless piracy to threaten and
invade America. So Joseph's story and the founding generation understood
this to be a high crime and misdemeanor. And amazingly enough,
(42:41):
Ben the Biden Justice Department argued in front of the U. S.
Supreme Court that impeachment was the remedy for the Biden
administration refusing to follow the law. So in Texas versus
the United States, Texas sued the Biden administration for refusing
to secure the border, and the Supreme Court ended up
(43:03):
agreeing with the Biden administration and saying, well, Texas can't
sue and the Biden doj The Solicitor General for Biden argued, look,
if you have a cabinet member who's refusing to follow
the law, Congress has remedies, including impeachment. And so I
stood up and said, listen, the Biden Department of Justice
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argued last year this was impeachable. It didn't matter. Every
single Democrat, all of them. And by the way, even
the so called moderates Joe Manchin and Cursten Cinema, they
voted also Nope, not a high crime or misdemeanor. And
as a result, because they had to have a majority,
the point of order carried. They got fifty one votes
(43:48):
for it. And so the first article was thrown out,
and then they did it again on the second one.
And I'll tell you the second one is even more astonishing.
So as a result of the first vote, it is
now the position of Democrats that any cabinet member can
refuse to follow the law and defy the law and
utterly ignore the law, and you can't impeach him for it.
I mean, that's an astonishing and dangerous proposition in Democrat
(44:12):
looney land. But the second article of impeachment was for
breach of trust, and it focused on majorcas repeatedly lying
to Congress under oath about what was happening at the border.
And again Chuck Schumer rose on a point of order
and said this is not a high crime or misdemeanor.
Now mind you, they're saying lying under oath to Congress
(44:35):
is not impeachable. It is a felony. It is a
felony that you can serve jail time for. And it's
worth remembering Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury. The House
impeached him, and what did the Senate do. They didn't
throw it out, they didn't dismiss it. The House managers
presented the case, they hurt and conducted a trial, and
ultimately the Senate acquitted him. But they did their duty
(44:59):
to hold a trial. And actually before that, there's someone
I'm sure you've never heard of, a guy named Walter Nixon.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
You know who Walter Nixon was?
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Who is that?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Walter Nixon was a federal judge. He was a federal
judge actually from Mississippi. You're an all MS grad. He
was a federal judge from Mississippi. But he was not
a good guy. And he was convicted a perjury before
a grand jury. And you know what happened. The Congress
impeached him, The House impeached him, the Senate convicted him,
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and he was removed as a federal judge for perjury.
So even though it was clear, there was clear precedent
that yes, perjury, lying under oath is a high crime
or misdemeanor, it is impeachable, every single Senate Democrat voted
that it's not a high crime or misdemeanor. So now apparently,
(45:53):
again in Democrat Wonderland, lying to Congress is AOK. And understand,
this was not about the Constitution. They didn't care. They
had no arguments as to why the Constitution said this.
This was about power, and this was about protecting their
political backsides because they're terrified of the American people hearing
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what is happening at the border, the fentanyl, the deaths,
the rapes, the children being abused. They do not want
that evidence before the American people. And I'll say this
is a final point to wrap up. Do you want
to see proof of why this is all political and
why the Democrats did what they did?
Speaker 4 (46:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (46:35):
You know what, you know what ms you know what,
MSNBC and CNN covered all day yesterday, Trump, the Trump Trial,
Stormy Daniels, ooh smut lying processing Like apparently there was
no impeachment proceeding in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Nothing happened. There's no border crisis.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
The only thing they would cover is is the attack
on Trump.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Facts, don't forget. By the way, this is a really
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