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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
I feel like the entire show tonight we should just
scream at one another and yell in honor of the
state of the union that you just walked out of.
Are your ears okay?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, that they're not. I have a little bit of trauma.
It is twelve seventeen in the morning, and I just
spent a little bit over an hour sitting on the
floor of the house being yelled at by a deranged
old man.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It was an experience, and I'll.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Tell you what we're going to talk about that We're
going to break down everything that happened. But we also
have a very special feature tonight, and it is it
is a happy twist of fate because I was not
the only person in the chamber listening to that angry
old man screaming, but an unemployed podcaster and radio host
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and former Marquee actor and book author turned out that
he was desperately in need of some liquor and cigars
and so sent me a text earlier tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
And so I'm actually.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Quite quite proud to welcome back to Verdict, my original
co host and my dear friend Michael Knowles, Michael, welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Back, Senator. It's good to be back, Ben, it's good
to be back. But you tricked me. You tricked me
because I look, you're right, what do I do? I
don't do verdict anymore. So I had a lot of
time on my hands. I sauntered down to DC said,
I got nothing better to do than listen to this
old man yell at me for three hours, however long
it took at the State of the Union. And I said,
but you know what we'll make this night totally redeemed,
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is I will text my friend Senator Cruz and we'll
have a nice cigar. And you said, absolutely, Michael, come
on over and we'll have cigars. Right after we finished
the podcast, and I said, all right, you got me.
I already agreed, Okay, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And this is how you and this is how we
welcome you back. By the way, you went to this
thing tonight as well, which was really just an hysterical
State of the Union. If you're ever going to go
to State of the Union, there's nothing better than saying
you can remember for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I was at the one that lasts an hour and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Eight minutes, where it looked like Joe Biden might have
been on some sort of drug and was screaming and
talking very fast for at least the first forty five
minutes of the speech. Then he went back to old
Joe's stature and slowed it back down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So you can tell your kids and grandkids about that.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Wait a second, damn, it was the time, actually an
hour and eight minutes. It was, but it was because
he talked, Hey, there's a problem. There's a problem with that,
which is Roger Marshall sent a text to a bunch
of us with all sorts of wagers, and one of
them was an over under on the length, and his
over under was seventy minutes. And I took the over, dammit,
And so I was two minutes off.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
You took it.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I was betting I was just up there in the
peanut gallery, but I bet I knew he couldn't go
thirty or even under forty because it would be a
national news story. Biden can't make it. So I thought
he had to go forty five. But I felt he
couldn't go more than a minute over that. So I
had it at forty six and I he totally blew
me out of the water.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Say what you will.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
It was a horrific speech, but it went a long
time and he yelled the entire time.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I said, fifty five minutes. That was what I thought.
I thought it'd be barely under an hour. But he
was late, so you know, I guess that maybe got
him a little bit more jacked up as he was late.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And is it true that he was late.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Did either of you guys see the protesters that apparently
they stopped the streets, all the pro Palastadian protesters, and
that's part of the reason why I was late.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Is that true?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I know that's what people were saying, but it was strange.
I've never seen at the State of the Union where
like the President shows up thirty minutes late.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah, I did not see protesters really. I mean, I
guess I was in the Capitol complex relatively early, but
I saw a handful of pro Ukraine protest And when
I say a handful, I mean like half a dozen,
and maybe some of the pro Palestine.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
But you know that there were none that I saw
at the Capitol. Maybe there were at the White House. Yeah,
but they're not over at the Capitol that I saw.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
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the big shock for me was how he started the
State of the Union of the United States of America
dealing with we need your money, and I'm gonna yell
at you about it, and you better get me the
money because otherwise if you don't, Ukraine is going to fall,
and the rest of Europe is going to and Russia's
going to take over everything. That was really the start
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of the State of the Union, because that's not the
number one issue on the minds of Americans right now.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, listen, the whole thing was bizarre. I've been to
twelve State of the Unions. This was the twelfth one.
This was by far the worst I've ever seen and
the strangest I've ever seen. So this was a campaign speech,
but it was an exceptionally bad campaign speech. So Biden
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was angry, he was bitter, he was screaming, he was extreme,
and he was completely out of touch. The entire speech
reminded me of a grumpy old man standing on his
front porch screaming at the kids.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Get off my front lawn. It was very odd.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I wanted your perspective on it, because You've been to
so many of these now and I couldn't tell. Maybe
it's just my first one and I didn't know. It
did seem much angry, but there was something hollow about it,
like as if he thought to prove that I'm alive,
I have to be yelling the whole time. But but
what was so odd was he was yelling and slurring
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his words, and it was the cadence was off, like
it just seemed like, I don't know, a bad theatrical
performance or something.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It is also interesting in that it reveals the political
strategy of the political White House for this election, which
is there were zero nods to the middle. This speech
said Republicans across America, I don't want your votes, independence
across America.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I don't want your votes.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
That this was an effort to woo the squad, that
this was an effort to appeal to bring back on
the reservation Elizabeth Warren. And you know, look, she's spent
a lot of time in reservation.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
She knows it well.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
You know, Bernie Sanders AOC and I don't know if
they're scared with the whole Hamas thing.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
That they've lost the crazy he left.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
But look, I can tell you one of the things
experiencing it, like I enjoy State of the Unions. They're fun,
the pageantry, it's it feels like, you know, it's a
moment of American history, and frankly, it's just pretty friggin
wild to be like sitting on the floor listening to it.
I mean, it's a neat thing almost always, and this
is true whether you have I've been there for Obama
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doing it, I've been there for Trump doing it, and
I've been there for Biden doing it. Almost always, you
have multiple lines that are designed to get everyone on
their feet and it's a different experience if it's your
own party. It's like being in a Jane Fonda aerobics session.
I mean, you're just up, down, up, down, up down.
Every sentence you stand up wooh. But any president has
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multiple lines that are designed to unify everyone, to bring
Congress to their feet. We're all standing together, and it
was weird. Look, I stand at the beginning in a
plaud and I will always do that because I respect
the office, even if I don't like the job Biden
is doing back the office he's holding. But then I
sat down, and for the next hour, almost all of
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us stayed sitting the whole time. I do not recall
any other speech that made so little effort to garner
even a shred of support from the opposing part.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
I couldn't figure out the calculus on that, because I agree,
I think maybe I think I stood up for the hostage.
We're going to bring our hostages back. I mean, that
was the one I did. I did stand up for that.
It was the hostages back, and that was it. I mean,
otherwise I was seated. It made it a very easy night,
But I just couldn't understand the calculus. If you're looking
at the Poles. The Poles have been reliable at least
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for the Republican primary, and the Poles are putting Trump
up right now in seven out of seven swing states,
and nationally it looks like he's up five points. It
could change. But if I'm Joe Biden, I don't need
AOC and Aana Presley. They were on their feet, they
were cheering. I don't need them right now. I really
need those nicky Haley voters.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Really And I think what it was when I was
watching it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Obviously I was watching on TV, and I had a
different perspective than you guys that were in the chamber.
But when Biden entered the House Chamber and the dim
start chanting four more years, to me, what it came
across as was I've got to let the Democratic Party
in machine know I'm not going anywhere. You're not going
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to replace me at the convention. I am the candidate.
The entire speech, watching again on TV, came across as
one hundred percent a partisan campaign speech, and it was like,
if you think you're gonna get rid of me, you're wrong.
You better get behind me. He clearly was going to
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the left. And I think it's the left, meaning the
Democratic the elites, the Democratic higher ups that are thinking,
how the hell do we run this guy? Can we
get rid of him? Can we bring somebody else in?
It was like, I'm here tonight and I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Look, that's not crazy. I will say when when the
Dems began four more years, that was weird too. I
may be missed remembering, but I don't remember that ever
happening before.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
No, but I think it's like the Lady Doth protests
too much in the sense that truly it's not even
that I don't like the guy, and I thought he
gave a bad speech, but I thought.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Four more years?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Who are you trying to convience here? You know, I
don't think you could convince him of four more years.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So seven more months, yeah, yeah, ten more minutes, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I got thirty three minutes of doctor say it can
make it right?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I mean, we know it.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It was a very partisan speech, and I want to
get both of you guys reaction to I think what
was the most awkward moment of the night from a
TV standpoint, and that was when the President went directly
after the Supreme Court justices that were sitting in front
of him. It did not play well, I think to
the American people, take a listen.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Francessor came to office determined to see wherever right overturn.
He's the reason was overturned, and he brags about it.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
That was my applause, Chaos.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Join us.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Tonight is Kate Cox, the wife and mother from Dallas.
She's become pregnant again and had a fetus of a
fatal condition. Her doctor told Kate that her own life
and her ability to have Choo children in the future
were at risk if she didn't act because Texas law
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banned her ability to act. Kate and her husband had
to leave the state to get what she needed, but
her family got through. Should have never happened as well.
But it's happening in too many others. There are state
laws banning the freedom to choose, criminalizing doctors, forcing survivors
of rape and incest to leave their states to get
the treatment they need. Many of you in this chamber
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and my predecessor are promising to pass the national ban
on reproductive freedom. My god, what freedom else would you
take away? Look, it's a decision to overturn Roe v. Wade,
The Supreme Court majority wrote the following, and with all
due respect, Justices, women are not without electoral power. Excuse me,
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electoral or political power. You're about to realize just how
much you get.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Write it out, I mean center.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That was honestly one of the most shocking moments of
any State of the Union I've ever seen. He looked
straight down at them, and it came across that way
on TV of you sitting beneath me. I'm coming after
all of you, including you liberals, down there, and you
better get your acted. I think a lot of it
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also is in a weird way, the anger and the
disdain and he had when he was looking at them.
At least how it came across on TV was part
of the Nino decision I think for Donald Trump and
Colorado this past week.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Look, it was a very strange moment, I will say
when he said, with all due respect, A number of us,
including me, laughed out loud at that because it was like,
with all due respect, FU like it was not that
there was no respect to do or otherwise. It was
reminiscent in some ways of Barack Obama lecturing the Court
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about citizens United and justice. Alito famously mouthed not true,
and actually Justice Alito doesn't go to the State of
the Union anymore because of that. That was the last
he went. But the temperature on this was three hundred
degrees hotter, like it makes Obama's words about Citizens United
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feel almost quaint and antiquated. This was angry, it was bitter,
it was threatening. And look what's also weird about it.
Biden almost never smiled, like there was no effort to
bring new voters into the fold. And even listen when
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he's talking about abortion, when he's talking about Kate Cox,
Kate Cox's situation was tragic. He doesn't tell her story
with empathy. He doesn't actually talk like a normal human
being and the horror that any parent would have at
finding out that that that that you had a child
with a fatal birth defect. Instead he just screams about it,
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which was a very strange way. And it was the
same He had one volume, he had one tempo, he
had one affect through the entire speech, and and and
it was and by the way he combined it all
with massive dishonesty, where he's like, and you Republicans want
to want to ban abortion across the country. Look, I
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am not aware of a single member of Congress that
has a bill to ban abortion nationwide.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I'm not aware of a presidential candidate, actually a Republican
presidential candidate. I mean, even to your point on dishonesty, Senator,
obviously part of the Cox story is part of it
is just quite tragic, and there's absolutely no nuance in
the Democrats telling of it. But part of it is dishonest.
When the Democrats say she was not permitted to have
an abortion when her life was at risk, that's just
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a lie. There is no state in the country where
if a woman's life is at risk, she can't undergo
the medical treatment, some of which would involve an abortion,
to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So that Texas law is explicit allowing an exception for
a medical emergency. But Biden would accept no nuance. It
was a Manichean world where he was the self righteous
avenger and everyone the Supreme Court, every Republican on earth,
everyone who disagrees with his view were the evildoers to
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be vanquished.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
It was very strange the focus on that. I mean,
for a while, when I saw the guest list come out,
I said, am I the only guest at the State
of the Union.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Who isn't invited to promote abortion?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I thought, I understand the Democrats think they can really
lean on that so much so that they're going to
explicitly attack the Supreme Court during the State of the Union.
But is that that's really the issue that Joe Biden
wants to run on. It is front and center, and
then screaming about Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Ukraine was the top.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But there was even weird other moments in their center
that were also I would say bizarre. Were you guys
taking aback in the room? When he said the vaccine
that saved us from COVID are now being used to
beat cancer, and everybody that was watching it, I think
at home, it was like, what in the world is
the president talking about?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
That all America and all Americans to make every sure
everyone has a fair shot, we leave no one behind.
The pandemic no longer controls our lives. The vaccines has
saved us from COVID are now being used to beat cancer,
turning set back into comeback.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
That's what America does.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
That's what America does.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
By the way, when he said that, even Kamawa Harris's
eyes got big and looked like I looked at him, like, wait,
what the vaccine saved us us from COVID and now
it's beating cancer.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
By the way, Ben I will say, if he was
telling the truth, if Joe Biden actually had cured cancer,
you'd think he would have told us about it by now.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You would have led with it before Ukraine, you would hope.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Like, like, wouldn't you just start? Good evening, I want
to start by saying we have cured cancer. That's the
end of my speech, thank you, and the end of
my campaign. I think I won reelection.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Actually that the COVID stuff, I guess might have been
the most dishonest part of the speech, where because on
some of it he's just lying, right, he's lying about abortion,
he's lying about the border. But on the COVID stuff
he uses partial truths to tell total lies, where he says,
you know, are we've cut the deficit by a trillion dollars, Yeah,
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because the Democrats made us spend an insane amount of
money justify by COVID. So yeah, sure tech, Oh we've
created a bazillion new jobs. Yeah, you shut down a
ton of businesses right on the premise of COVID, so yeah, like, technically,
I guess that's true, but that it's just a false
economic painting.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, and I also want to ask you, guys, is
anybody looking forward to getting on Air Force one to
go to Moscow.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm gonna get in trouble for saying that.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
But if you want to get an Air Force woman
and fly to Toronto, Berlin, Moscow, I mean, excuse me,
and well even Moscow.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Probably even Moscow. Probably that's how he saved it.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm like, well, if you're taking all the money from
oligarks at Moscow, I guess maybe we are going to
fly on Air Force one to Moscow? Why not even
though you're saying they're going to invade the world fifteen
minutes earlier, and you better give all the money to Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Look, it was it was out of touch. It was
out of touch with the issues that I think people
are wrestling with on an inflation I can tell you
in Texas, I spent a lot of time listening to
Texans when they pay their rent. Remember the the candidate
in New York the rent is too damn high.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
A good friend of mine, actually, well, okay, that like.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Mortgages when when you know a young couple goes out
and they're gonna buy their first house, and they discover
that a seven percent mortgage rate is very different from
a two percent mortgage rate, and they can get half
the house they used to be able to get when
they go to the grocery store and suddenly there's.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
A lot time.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But he's gonna give you four hundred dollars. Didn't he
say that tonight in the State of the Union to
help you buy that house. It's nono one hundred thousand
from last year.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It was even better than that when he said the
big savings. Forget about the price of groceries. There aren't
enough chips in the bag of potato chips. But he says,
don't worry, because I'm putting a cap the credit card
late payments used to be thirty two dollars, and I'm
gonna make it eight dollars, twenty four dollars in the
pockets of every American. Reelect me. In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
It was over and over again. He had new things
he was going to give away. Look the four hundred
dollars to everyone here. This will help you pay you more.
I'm just gonna send you four hundred dollars. Mind you,
your mortgage gone has gone up because we spent so
much money and we drove inflation and drove it up,
so we'll just pay you. And our answer the problem
is we printed too much money and it caused inflation.
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My answer is we're gonna print even more money and
that's going to help you deal with inflation. And like,
did anyone on the White White House staff like like
like take econ one oh one, like did they go
for like one day?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Certainly not under the White House staff since the Obama years.
They they usually get MFAs in creative writing, and somehow
that's supposed to direct domestic and foreign policy.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
By the way, I say, also, did you notice there
was not only was it angry and bitter and extreme,
but there was also very little beautiful about it. I
mean sometimes State of the Unions have some poetry to it.
I mean there's you think of Peggy Noonan writing for
Ronald Reagan, and and and there is there are full
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moments in the State of the Union. And there were
no beautiful moments tonight.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And I think it's because he was running for reelection.
He was all about that I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Even at the end of the speech though, because I
totally agree with you, Ben, he was and I agree
with you, Senator. You know, this is this rallying of
the base. Maybe it was just to shore up the
Democrats because he feels that Gavin Newsom's lurking in the corner.
By the end, he started to lean in a little
bit toward what could have been poetry, but it was
so platitudinous, and also it was a self contradictory. So
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within the span of about three minutes, at the end
of the speech, he says, we are still the United
States of America. We have enduring values. We believe what
we've always believed, these old enduring ideas, and then not
two seconds later, he says, but we got to get
rid of the old ideas. We need all the new ideas.
And I said, wait a second, but you had two
speech writers clearly with separate theses on this, and they
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Speaker 1 (22:56):
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Speaker 1 (24:21):
Center.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You did Hannity tonight, and there was one thing that
Handy said that I thought was very interesting in his monologue.
He was talking about the obsession with the White House,
saying that the economy's strong and Bidenomics is working. I
want you to hear what he had to say for
everyone that missed it. It's very interesting.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Let's start with his lives on the economy.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Take a look, I heard it. Economy is on the
brink now.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Our economy is literally the envy of the world. Fifteen
million new jobs in just three years, a record, a
record way.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Just keep going up. In flash, she keeps coming down.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Inflation has dropped from nine percent to three percent, the
lowest in the world and tending lower.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
The land he is and will be saw all right.
Here is the truth. Here of the facts.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
Since Biden took office, cumulative prices have risen over seventeen percent.
Real hourly wages have only risen thirteen percent. Sixty percent
of our fellow Americans, sadly, they are living paycheck to
paycheck now costs across the board. They are surgery, groceries,
are eating up more of the American people's paychecks, and
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they have in over thirty years. In fact, according to
a recent study, Americans now need to make eleven four
hundred dollars more to afford the same quality of life
that they did in twenty twenty one. And his claims
about job creation another lie. In reality, almost ten million
of those jobs are just well backfield jobs or temporary
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jobs that were lost during the pandemic. And as we
know now many of those other jobs were part time
jobs going too many farm born workers.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That he's led it in this country on veted illegally.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I mean, Senator, you hear that montage. It's spot on.
But this goes back to how tone death this White
House seems to be. It's the economy, stupid. You walk
out there and you the beginning of the stay of
the Union was, I'm going to tell the American people
you must give massive amounts of money Ukraine or you're
an evil person. You better give me abortion on demand
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and help me allow me to kill more babies, or
you're a terrible person. And I'm going to oh and
on top of that, I'm going to attack the Supreme
Court in front of me and basically say they're illegitimate.
And then after forty something minutes, I might mention the
number one issue for many Americans, which is border security.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It took him forty plus minutes to get to that.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Well, and before we turn to border security, which we
obviously are going to talk about, let's pause for a
second on inflation, and I'll say number one. Hannity referenced
the study that's say it's over eleven thousand dollars a
year to live the same standard of living you had
in twenty twenty one, just three years ago before Joe
Biden came to office. That works out to nearly one
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thousand dollars more a month. Wow, is what people are
having to pay just to tread water, just to stay
where they were in twenty twenty one. And I get
to say, the moment where Biden seemed most out of
touch on this issue was when he did his whole
shrink flation thing, And it kind of felt like, you
remember Andy Rooney, who'd be like, you ever notice when
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you have potato chips as many potato chips in the
bag as they used to be.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Why is that it's a direct quote from the State
of the Union.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
It if you're trying not to seem like a crazy
old man ranting, maybe don't sound like a crazy old
man ranting. And on the other level, no kidding, Yes,
we're aware what shrink inflation is and you caused it,
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Like there's no actual use of the cranium to say, well,
what is causing those mean old corporations to put fewer
potato chips in the bag. Do they just hate their
customers and don't want them to eat potato chips? Or
are they dealing with inflation and it costs more and
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more and more and they're trying to find ways to
fight the inflation that you caused by printing trillions of
dollars in money we didn't have. There's no awareness of that.
There's just ranting, I don't like shrinkflation, So what are
we gonna do? Pass Bob Casey's bill on shrinkflation? And
we're all looking at each other going, what the hell
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does Casey have?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Like, like, what does Casey have a law?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
We're going to count the chips in your bag and
if you're below the chips, Joe Biden gives you four
hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Like Hostito's Protection Act from Casey you know it. It
reminded me of that meme of the guy who has
the gun and he turns around and he shoots someone,
and then he looks at the camera. He says, why
did X, Y and Z do that? Right, and blames
anything else, And it's Biden with the inflation. He has
all this massive spending and then he says, why did
the tostitos company do that? But if you had taken
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even economics one oh one in high school, you would say, look,
the chip company has always had an incentive to maximize profits.
The thing that has change is not that all of
a sudden the potato chip company wants to make money.
Clearly something else in the economic He's changed here between
the last eight years or so.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
By the way, when the economy is booming, think what
big mean corporations do they sell megamega size even more chips,
you know, the big gulp with enough to drink to
have you on caffeine for the next thirteen weeks.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Like that, Also is the profit.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Motive if you're not dealing with crushing inflation and trying
to figure out a way to make things work right.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
All right, I gotta ask you guys about the heckling
that happened. There was one person that heckled tonight. It's
now being reported that that individual was a gold star
father whose son, Lance Colonel Karen nick Koori, who was
killed by a terrorist suicide bomber during Joe Biden's disastrous
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withdraw from Afghanistan. I usually am not a big fan
of heckling. I don't think that's heckling once I learned
the backstory. That was an angry father who saw a
president that was rewriting history.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Look, we did not know the backstory when he yelled.
We could tell he was yelling something about a marine company,
but we couldn't tell the details in that room. Obviously,
if his son lost his life, I wondered if it
was if it was one of the Marines who was
killed in Afghanistan, if that's what he was referring to,
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and apparently it was. Look, Joe Biden accepts no responsibility
for anything, and instead his White House tries to whitewash
every foreign policy disaster as an absolute success. And you know,
when it comes to the thirteen servicemen and women who
died in Afghanistan, that was completely unnecessary.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
It was Biden's fault.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
By the way, one of my favorite pods we ever
did is when we focused on the testimony of the
young marine who was there in Afghanistan and had the
suicide bomber, had him identified him, was prepared to take
him out, and the Biden White House wouldn't let him,
and he was prevented from doing so, and those service
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men and women were killed.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
You know, I'm seeing a news report now. I don't
know if it's been verified or not, that the man
who was yelling out about his son and the Marines
was arrested and charged with a misdemeanor for interrupting Biden.
And I didn't know it was a crime at all
to interrupt the state of the Union. If it is,
I imagine not a court in the land would ever convict
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him given the circumstances of what he did.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Have you seen the DC district courts? Well, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I was saying, you'll have a much shot, and yeah,
trust me, they'll go after them all the way.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Right. I forgot where we were broadcasting from right now.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It was putting you in the swamp, brother, You were
right in the swamp.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
But putting that particular instance aside it did seem to
me that there was more heckling than usual. You've been
to a dozen of these centators.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, Look, I mean there has been. The Democrats were
doing lots of the four more years, which was weird.
I don't recall I don't recall anyone doing that for Obama.
I don't recall folks doing it for Trump. I may
not be remembering it, but if it happened, I don't
remember it, you know, I will say, Look, in recent years,
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I have not like. There are some House Republicans who
heckled the president, and I got.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
To say, I really dislike that.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I disagree passionately with Joe Biden, but I respect the
office of the presidency and what it represents, and so
even if I disagree with him, I just think it's
not Look, a gold star father is a different circumstance,
But for a member of Congress, I think heckling is
is not not consistent with the decorum and respect that
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is owed, not just the presidency. By the way, did
you notice what didn't happen at the beginning of the speech?
Did you notice the Speaker of the House speak the
House the speech up into shreds, and.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
He didn't get to introduce him. Did you notice that
as well? Usually you have him introduce He didn't do that.
The President just walked up there, went straight to the
to the podium and started talking. And the entire moment
where you're supposed to introduce him that comes to the
Speak of the House never happened.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
It was It was very odd and look the heckling
led to So I predicted before the speech that there
were four words that that Biden would not say, Lake
and Riley and Jeremy Caserras. Now, as it so happened,
he kind of sort of said Lake.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
And Riley, but he almost tried to.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
But he did so in response to heckling someone calling
out say her name, and there were many members of
Congress wearing buttons and pins that said Lake and Riley,
say her name.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
And he said the wrong name.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
He said Lincoln Riley, which the.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Head football coach at usc.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It and he had one of those buttons. So I
think I think one of the members of Congress had
given it to him.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yes, I don't know if it was Congressman Andy Ogles
who actually invited me tonight, or if it was Marjorie
Taylor Green or what but there were a handful of
the conservative congressman who had it, and what I heard
from one of the members was that they handed it
to the president. He leaned it, he said, oh, I
like your button. But I don't think it was sarcastic.
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I think he legitimately had no idea what was going
on and what it represented.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Well, look when the heckling happened, he responded, and he
did sort of try to say her name, although he
didn't get it right. But then look what he said.
He said, you know, she was killed. I'm sorry she
was killed, and he expressed sympathy for the parents. And
I got to say that may have been the moment
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that pissed me off the most because listen, so Lake
and Riley's parents were invited, and actually, you know, they
were invited and they decided not to come. And I
understand they are grieving the loss of their daughter, their
home in Georgia, and the Georgia House member who invited
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them left the seat vacant in honor of Lake and Riley.
And you know, frankly, they don't want Joe Biden's empathy.
They don't want a Hallmark.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Card from him.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
They want their daughter back and and what Joe Biden
didn't do is take responsibility for his direct culpability. And
let's walk through. Lake and Riley never should have been killed.
The illegal immigrant who murdered her was caught. He was
apprehended in Texas, in El Paso. He came illegally from Venezuela.
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We had him. And what should have happened is the
Biden administration should have followed the law. They should have
put him on a plane and flown him back to Venezuela.
And if Joe Biden had done that, Lake and Riley
would still be alive today.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
But it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Just l Pass was so so frustrating about this, all
a totally preventable tragedy. Yes, they could have gotten him
in New York. They did get him in New York.
He committed a crime in New York they let him go.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
He was arrested for endangering a child. But New York City,
again run by Democrats, calls itself a sanctuary city, and
they let him go. If Joe Biden had deported him,
Lake and Riley would be alive. If New York City
had kept it and jail, Lake and Riley would be
a lot forget.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
About New York City.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
He ends up in Athens, Georgia, and he steals from
a store. I forget which store. It was the Georgia authorities.
I think he was cited with a misdemeanor for shoplifting.
You had three distinct opportunities.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Three chances to get rid of him.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Three chances, three strikes, You're out, and a poor American
student winds up dead because.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And by the way, let's be clear, Jeremy Cassaris is
a two year old boy, a beautiful little boy who
was murdered just weeks ago in Prince George's County in Virginia,
about thirty miles from where Joe Biden was standing. And
that little boy was murdered again by an illegal immigrant
that Joe Biden let go. This is happening across the country.
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We're getting day after day stories of children raped by
illegal immigrants. Joe Biden is let go. And he had
zero acknowledgment of that, zero intention of changing anything. It
was just crocodile tears of I'm so sorry about your daughter,
without acknowledging it happened because of his policies, and he
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continues to do those policies which means there'll be another
lake in Riley tomorrow and another set of parents that
he again disingenuously apologizes well.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
And the proof that the President doesn't seem to care
about this issue is the fact that it took him
forty minutes into an hour speech to even mention the
border on his own. That's how far they buried the
border issue in his State of the Union speech.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
What I wondered when he was browbeating the Republicans for
not voting for even more illegal immigration, which is what
his border bill would have done, is is he just
counting on the American people not realizing that he is
dismantling the fence that the Texas border authorities are putting up,
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That it's not merely passivity that he's allowing.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Actually give you a little bit of correction on that
he wants to dismantle it, but he hasn't actually done it.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
He hasn't succeeded.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
No, No, the razor wire is there, and they ended up
Texas had gotten an injunction preventing the Biden administration from
removing the razor wire, and that injunction got reversed. So
the Biden administration is no longer prevented from removing the
razor wire, but they have not done so.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
They wanted to do it, they're prevented from doing it,
they're then allowed to do it, but they got spooked
by the politics off Yeah. Wow, Wow, that's actually encouraging
that someone at the White House is saying, hold on
that that really crazy thing that we were going to do.
Maybe let's hold off, yeah for a few days.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
All right, before we end, I got to get you
guys reaction to two different things, two clips from CNN.
You guys were obviously in the chamber and you didn't
get to see all the commentary. I want you to
hear what CNN had to say about the state of
the Union. This is clip one.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
He seemed like Walkowski, you talking about this area, he said,
like Walkawowski and Grandtarino screaming at kids, get off my lawn,
like an old guy screaming agains.
Speaker 9 (40:12):
My guess is that when he got into the heart
of his agenda, the things that you ridicule about the
cost of food and you know, price gouging and so on.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I bet you that scored.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
With a lot of people. I think that they the
populist economic agenda is a powerful, powerful thing for him.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Look, there are parts of it.
Speaker 9 (40:35):
I'm not sure that the attacks all landed exactly. They
may have landed well in that room for sure, and
they landed well with base voters for sure. I'm not
sure where those swing voters that they landed as well,
but I do think.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I mean, that's David Axrod, the former Obama you know,
senior advisor, who's saying, you know, in response to one
of the commenters saying, look it was it was like
an old guy screaming to the kids get off my lawn.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's what you said earlier. Center.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
But they're saying CNN and he's even admitting, hey, there's
a pretty good chance that didn't play well or land
with independent voters.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Okay, Ben, you're really scaring me? Are you telling me that,
unbeknownst to me, I was channeling David Axelrod on CNN.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Holy crap. I might have to just hang it all
up right now. It's over.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I am off the rails, Michael right now.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Something we need to correct something.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
And I got to say even worse, Axelrod's analogy is better.
He threw out the whole grand Tarino like he took
it one notch better. I am just thoroughly humiliated.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
And not only that, you'll like this one.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
So then there was another commentator on CNN who actually
said this about the president's speech.
Speaker 8 (41:46):
Listen, he talked about snickers and snack chips before he
ever got to the border. He was obsessed with his
political rival more than he was obsessed with the condition
of the American people.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
It was so weird.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
This guy lectures us all on unity, the soul of
the nation, and he gives the most partisan convention speech
in place of a state of a Union that I've
ever heard. It's the literal opposite of unity. It's so partisan.
He's obsessed with taunting Republicans. It's not statesman life. Can
let's say one thing on Israel?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I mean, that was Scott Jennings, a former col league
of mine, who said that.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
And he's right, by the way.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I mean, he did talk about snickers and snack chips
before he ever got to the border.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
It was his words. It was just weird.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
I like his observation that Joe Biden thought he was
at the DNC.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Maybe that's as simple as that.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
You know, he thought he walked into the convention Whoosie
Daisy had actually was a joint session for the state
of the Union. But you know, the man doesn't remember
his own name.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I will say one thing that also, that clip reminded
me of It was odd how many times he referenced Trump.
I cannot think of any state of the Union in
my lifetime with that many references to your opponent, the
forer president, the forer president, the former president. And you
know he's like, you know, you know, I believe in
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in truth and happiness and love and puppy dogs and fairies,
and my opponent believes in hate and suffering, in misery
and dead puppies.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Like like it was just like, really, do a little
defensive you would.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Say, campaign one I want.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I will tell you the list of things Biden didn't
mention to say the Union. You guys ready for this.
He did not mention US service members killed in Afghanistan.
He did not mention US service members killed by Iranian
backed proxies in the Middle East. He did not mention
gas prices. He did not mention TikTok or China uh.
He did not mention North Korea. He didn't mention Cuba.
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He didn't mention school choice. He didn't mention the classified
doc scandal. He didn't mention Hunter Biden or the Biden corruption.
He did not mention fossil fuels. He did not mention
deporting illegals. He did not mention border wall, he did
not mention the attacks on pregnancy centers, and he did
not mention China's human rights abuses. Notice a lot of
those connect with people that have given money the Biden
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crime family.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'll leave it with that center your reaction.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Well, but do you have anything to say about how
many chips are in a bag of chips?
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I think you know, I think he did touch on
that important subject.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Do you know the state of the Union may be
in trouble, but the state of chips is really in trouble.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
There you go, Michael, Hey, welcome back, my friend. Always
a pleasure. This is fun, nice way to recap the
stay of the Union here. Don't forget Senator Cruise Nighty
This show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. We also have the
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you down with my podcast the Ben Ferguson podcasts. I'll
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in between Days and the Senator, and I will see
you back here in a couple of days
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
I feel like the entire show tonight we should just
scream at one another and yell in honor of the
state of the union that you just walked out of.
Are your ears okay?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, that they're not. I have a little bit of trauma.
It is twelve seventeen in the morning, and I just
spent a little bit over an hour sitting on the
floor of the house being yelled at by a deranged
old man.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It was an experience, and I'll.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Tell you what we're going to talk about that We're
going to break down everything that happened. But we also
have a very special feature tonight, and it is it
is a happy twist of fate because I was not
the only person in the chamber listening to that angry
old man screaming, but an unemployed podcaster and radio host
(00:55):
and former Marquee actor and book author turned out that
he was desperately in need of some liquor and cigars
and so sent me a text earlier tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
And so I'm actually.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Quite quite proud to welcome back to Verdict, my original
co host and my dear friend Michael Knowles, Michael, welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Back, Senator. It's good to be back, Ben, it's good
to be back. But you tricked me. You tricked me
because I look, you're right, what do I do? I
don't do verdict anymore. So I had a lot of
time on my hands. I sauntered down to DC said,
I got nothing better to do than listen to this
old man yell at me for three hours, however long
it took at the State of the Union. And I said,
but you know what we'll make this night totally redeemed,
(01:43):
is I will text my friend Senator Cruz and we'll
have a nice cigar. And you said, absolutely, Michael, come
on over and we'll have cigars. Right after we finished
the podcast, and I said, all right, you got me.
I already agreed, Okay, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And this is how you and this is how we
welcome you back. By the way, you went to this
thing tonight as well, which was really just an hysterical
State of the Union. If you're ever going to go
to State of the Union, there's nothing better than saying
you can remember for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I was at the one that lasts an hour and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Eight minutes, where it looked like Joe Biden might have
been on some sort of drug and was screaming and
talking very fast for at least the first forty five
minutes of the speech. Then he went back to old
Joe's stature and slowed it back down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So you can tell your kids and grandkids about that.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Wait a second, damn, it was the time, actually an
hour and eight minutes. It was, but it was because
he talked, Hey, there's a problem. There's a problem with that,
which is Roger Marshall sent a text to a bunch
of us with all sorts of wagers, and one of
them was an over under on the length, and his
over under was seventy minutes. And I took the over, dammit,
And so I was two minutes off.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
You took it.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I was betting I was just up there in the
peanut gallery, but I bet I knew he couldn't go
thirty or even under forty because it would be a
national news story. Biden can't make it. So I thought
he had to go forty five. But I felt he
couldn't go more than a minute over that. So I
had it at forty six and I he totally blew
me out of the water.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Say what you will.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
It was a horrific speech, but it went a long
time and he yelled the entire time.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I said, fifty five minutes. That was what I thought.
I thought it'd be barely under an hour. But he
was late, so you know, I guess that maybe got
him a little bit more jacked up as he was late.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And is it true that he was late.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Did either of you guys see the protesters that apparently
they stopped the streets, all the pro Palastadian protesters, and
that's part of the reason why I was late.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Is that true?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I know that's what people were saying, but it was strange.
I've never seen at the State of the Union where
like the President shows up thirty minutes late.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah, I did not see protesters really. I mean, I
guess I was in the Capitol complex relatively early, but
I saw a handful of pro Ukraine protest And when
I say a handful, I mean like half a dozen,
and maybe some of the pro Palestine.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
But you know that there were none that I saw
at the Capitol. Maybe there were at the White House. Yeah,
but they're not over at the Capitol that I saw.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Hey, when you get the doctors and they got to
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The reality is the toll on the Israeli people is staggering.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
It's massive.
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There are hundreds of thousands of Israelis that have been
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the big shock for me was how he started the
State of the Union of the United States of America
dealing with we need your money, and I'm gonna yell
at you about it, and you better get me the
money because otherwise if you don't, Ukraine is going to fall,
and the rest of Europe is going to and Russia's
going to take over everything. That was really the start
(06:04):
of the State of the Union, because that's not the
number one issue on the minds of Americans right now.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, listen, the whole thing was bizarre. I've been to
twelve State of the Unions. This was the twelfth one.
This was by far the worst I've ever seen and
the strangest I've ever seen. So this was a campaign speech,
but it was an exceptionally bad campaign speech. So Biden
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was angry, he was bitter, he was screaming, he was extreme,
and he was completely out of touch. The entire speech
reminded me of a grumpy old man standing on his
front porch screaming at the kids.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Get off my front lawn. It was very odd.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I wanted your perspective on it, because You've been to
so many of these now and I couldn't tell. Maybe
it's just my first one and I didn't know. It
did seem much angry, but there was something hollow about it,
like as if he thought to prove that I'm alive,
I have to be yelling the whole time. But but
what was so odd was he was yelling and slurring
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his words, and it was the cadence was off, like
it just seemed like, I don't know, a bad theatrical
performance or something.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It is also interesting in that it reveals the political
strategy of the political White House for this election, which
is there were zero nods to the middle. This speech
said Republicans across America, I don't want your votes, independence
across America.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I don't want your votes.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
That this was an effort to woo the squad, that
this was an effort to appeal to bring back on
the reservation Elizabeth Warren. And you know, look, she's spent
a lot of time in reservation.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
She knows it well.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
You know, Bernie Sanders AOC and I don't know if
they're scared with the whole Hamas thing.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
That they've lost the crazy he left.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
But look, I can tell you one of the things
experiencing it, like I enjoy State of the Unions. They're fun,
the pageantry, it's it feels like, you know, it's a
moment of American history, and frankly, it's just pretty friggin
wild to be like sitting on the floor listening to it.
I mean, it's a neat thing almost always, and this
is true whether you have I've been there for Obama
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doing it, I've been there for Trump doing it, and
I've been there for Biden doing it. Almost always, you
have multiple lines that are designed to get everyone on
their feet and it's a different experience if it's your
own party. It's like being in a Jane Fonda aerobics session.
I mean, you're just up, down, up, down, up down.
Every sentence you stand up wooh. But any president has
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multiple lines that are designed to unify everyone, to bring
Congress to their feet. We're all standing together, and it
was weird. Look, I stand at the beginning in a
plaud and I will always do that because I respect
the office, even if I don't like the job Biden
is doing back the office he's holding. But then I
sat down, and for the next hour, almost all of
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us stayed sitting the whole time. I do not recall
any other speech that made so little effort to garner
even a shred of support from the opposing part.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
I couldn't figure out the calculus on that, because I agree,
I think maybe I think I stood up for the hostage.
We're going to bring our hostages back. I mean, that
was the one I did. I did stand up for that.
It was the hostages back, and that was it. I mean,
otherwise I was seated. It made it a very easy night,
But I just couldn't understand the calculus. If you're looking
at the Poles. The Poles have been reliable at least
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for the Republican primary, and the Poles are putting Trump
up right now in seven out of seven swing states,
and nationally it looks like he's up five points. It
could change. But if I'm Joe Biden, I don't need
AOC and Aana Presley. They were on their feet, they
were cheering. I don't need them right now. I really
need those nicky Haley voters.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Really And I think what it was when I was
watching it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Obviously I was watching on TV, and I had a
different perspective than you guys that were in the chamber.
But when Biden entered the House Chamber and the dim
start chanting four more years, to me, what it came
across as was I've got to let the Democratic Party
in machine know I'm not going anywhere. You're not going
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to replace me at the convention. I am the candidate.
The entire speech, watching again on TV, came across as
one hundred percent a partisan campaign speech, and it was like,
if you think you're gonna get rid of me, you're wrong.
You better get behind me. He clearly was going to
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the left. And I think it's the left, meaning the
Democratic the elites, the Democratic higher ups that are thinking,
how the hell do we run this guy? Can we
get rid of him? Can we bring somebody else in?
It was like, I'm here tonight and I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Look, that's not crazy. I will say when when the
Dems began four more years, that was weird too. I
may be missed remembering, but I don't remember that ever
happening before.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
No, but I think it's like the Lady Doth protests
too much in the sense that truly it's not even
that I don't like the guy, and I thought he
gave a bad speech, but I thought.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Four more years?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Who are you trying to convience here? You know, I
don't think you could convince him of four more years.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So seven more months, yeah, yeah, ten more minutes, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I got thirty three minutes of doctor say it can
make it right?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I mean, we know it.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It was a very partisan speech, and I want to
get both of you guys reaction to I think what
was the most awkward moment of the night from a
TV standpoint, and that was when the President went directly
after the Supreme Court justices that were sitting in front
of him. It did not play well, I think to
the American people, take a listen.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Francessor came to office determined to see wherever right overturn.
He's the reason was overturned, and he brags about it.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
That was my applause, Chaos.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Join us.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Tonight is Kate Cox, the wife and mother from Dallas.
She's become pregnant again and had a fetus of a
fatal condition. Her doctor told Kate that her own life
and her ability to have Choo children in the future
were at risk if she didn't act because Texas law
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banned her ability to act. Kate and her husband had
to leave the state to get what she needed, but
her family got through. Should have never happened as well.
But it's happening in too many others. There are state
laws banning the freedom to choose, criminalizing doctors, forcing survivors
of rape and incest to leave their states to get
the treatment they need. Many of you in this chamber
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and my predecessor are promising to pass the national ban
on reproductive freedom. My god, what freedom else would you
take away? Look, it's a decision to overturn Roe v. Wade,
The Supreme Court majority wrote the following, and with all
due respect, Justices, women are not without electoral power. Excuse me,
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electoral or political power. You're about to realize just how
much you get.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Write it out, I mean center.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That was honestly one of the most shocking moments of
any State of the Union I've ever seen. He looked
straight down at them, and it came across that way
on TV of you sitting beneath me. I'm coming after
all of you, including you liberals, down there, and you
better get your acted. I think a lot of it
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also is in a weird way, the anger and the
disdain and he had when he was looking at them.
At least how it came across on TV was part
of the Nino decision I think for Donald Trump and
Colorado this past week.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Look, it was a very strange moment, I will say
when he said, with all due respect, A number of us,
including me, laughed out loud at that because it was like,
with all due respect, FU like it was not that
there was no respect to do or otherwise. It was
reminiscent in some ways of Barack Obama lecturing the Court
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about citizens United and justice. Alito famously mouthed not true,
and actually Justice Alito doesn't go to the State of
the Union anymore because of that. That was the last
he went. But the temperature on this was three hundred
degrees hotter, like it makes Obama's words about Citizens United
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feel almost quaint and antiquated. This was angry, it was bitter,
it was threatening. And look what's also weird about it.
Biden almost never smiled, like there was no effort to
bring new voters into the fold. And even listen when
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he's talking about abortion, when he's talking about Kate Cox,
Kate Cox's situation was tragic. He doesn't tell her story
with empathy. He doesn't actually talk like a normal human
being and the horror that any parent would have at
finding out that that that that you had a child
with a fatal birth defect. Instead he just screams about it,
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which was a very strange way. And it was the
same He had one volume, he had one tempo, he
had one affect through the entire speech, and and and
it was and by the way he combined it all
with massive dishonesty, where he's like, and you Republicans want
to want to ban abortion across the country. Look, I
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am not aware of a single member of Congress that
has a bill to ban abortion nationwide.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I'm not aware of a presidential candidate, actually a Republican
presidential candidate. I mean, even to your point on dishonesty, Senator,
obviously part of the Cox story is part of it
is just quite tragic, and there's absolutely no nuance in
the Democrats telling of it. But part of it is dishonest.
When the Democrats say she was not permitted to have
an abortion when her life was at risk, that's just
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a lie. There is no state in the country where
if a woman's life is at risk, she can't undergo
the medical treatment, some of which would involve an abortion,
to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So that Texas law is explicit allowing an exception for
a medical emergency. But Biden would accept no nuance. It
was a Manichean world where he was the self righteous
avenger and everyone the Supreme Court, every Republican on earth,
everyone who disagrees with his view were the evildoers to
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be vanquished.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
It was very strange the focus on that. I mean,
for a while, when I saw the guest list come out,
I said, am I the only guest at the State
of the Union.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Who isn't invited to promote abortion?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I thought, I understand the Democrats think they can really
lean on that so much so that they're going to
explicitly attack the Supreme Court during the State of the Union.
But is that that's really the issue that Joe Biden
wants to run on. It is front and center, and
then screaming about Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Ukraine was the top.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But there was even weird other moments in their center
that were also I would say bizarre. Were you guys
taking aback in the room? When he said the vaccine
that saved us from COVID are now being used to
beat cancer, and everybody that was watching it, I think
at home, it was like, what in the world is
the president talking about?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
That all America and all Americans to make every sure
everyone has a fair shot, we leave no one behind.
The pandemic no longer controls our lives. The vaccines has
saved us from COVID are now being used to beat cancer,
turning set back into comeback.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
That's what America does.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
That's what America does.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
By the way, when he said that, even Kamawa Harris's
eyes got big and looked like I looked at him, like, wait,
what the vaccine saved us us from COVID and now
it's beating cancer.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
By the way, Ben I will say, if he was
telling the truth, if Joe Biden actually had cured cancer,
you'd think he would have told us about it by now.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You would have led with it before Ukraine, you would hope.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Like, like, wouldn't you just start? Good evening, I want
to start by saying we have cured cancer. That's the
end of my speech, thank you, and the end of
my campaign. I think I won reelection.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Actually that the COVID stuff, I guess might have been
the most dishonest part of the speech, where because on
some of it he's just lying, right, he's lying about abortion,
he's lying about the border. But on the COVID stuff
he uses partial truths to tell total lies, where he says,
you know, are we've cut the deficit by a trillion dollars, Yeah,
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because the Democrats made us spend an insane amount of
money justify by COVID. So yeah, sure tech, Oh we've
created a bazillion new jobs. Yeah, you shut down a
ton of businesses right on the premise of COVID, so yeah, like, technically,
I guess that's true, but that it's just a false
economic painting.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, and I also want to ask you, guys, is
anybody looking forward to getting on Air Force one to
go to Moscow.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm gonna get in trouble for saying that.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
But if you want to get an Air Force woman
and fly to Toronto, Berlin, Moscow, I mean, excuse me,
and well even Moscow.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Probably even Moscow. Probably that's how he saved it.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm like, well, if you're taking all the money from
oligarks at Moscow, I guess maybe we are going to
fly on Air Force one to Moscow? Why not even
though you're saying they're going to invade the world fifteen
minutes earlier, and you better give all the money to Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Look, it was it was out of touch. It was
out of touch with the issues that I think people
are wrestling with on an inflation I can tell you
in Texas, I spent a lot of time listening to
Texans when they pay their rent. Remember the the candidate
in New York the rent is too damn high.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
A good friend of mine, actually, well, okay, that like.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Mortgages when when you know a young couple goes out
and they're gonna buy their first house, and they discover
that a seven percent mortgage rate is very different from
a two percent mortgage rate, and they can get half
the house they used to be able to get when
they go to the grocery store and suddenly there's.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
A lot time.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But he's gonna give you four hundred dollars. Didn't he
say that tonight in the State of the Union to
help you buy that house. It's nono one hundred thousand
from last year.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It was even better than that when he said the
big savings. Forget about the price of groceries. There aren't
enough chips in the bag of potato chips. But he says,
don't worry, because I'm putting a cap the credit card
late payments used to be thirty two dollars, and I'm
gonna make it eight dollars, twenty four dollars in the
pockets of every American. Reelect me. In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
It was over and over again. He had new things
he was going to give away. Look the four hundred
dollars to everyone here. This will help you pay you more.
I'm just gonna send you four hundred dollars. Mind you,
your mortgage gone has gone up because we spent so
much money and we drove inflation and drove it up,
so we'll just pay you. And our answer the problem
is we printed too much money and it caused inflation.
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My answer is we're gonna print even more money and
that's going to help you deal with inflation. And like,
did anyone on the White White House staff like like
like take econ one oh one, like did they go
for like one day?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Certainly not under the White House staff since the Obama years.
They they usually get MFAs in creative writing, and somehow
that's supposed to direct domestic and foreign policy.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
By the way, I say, also, did you notice there
was not only was it angry and bitter and extreme,
but there was also very little beautiful about it. I
mean sometimes State of the Unions have some poetry to it.
I mean there's you think of Peggy Noonan writing for
Ronald Reagan, and and and there is there are full
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moments in the State of the Union. And there were
no beautiful moments tonight.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And I think it's because he was running for reelection.
He was all about that I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Even at the end of the speech though, because I
totally agree with you, Ben, he was and I agree
with you, Senator. You know, this is this rallying of
the base. Maybe it was just to shore up the
Democrats because he feels that Gavin Newsom's lurking in the corner.
By the end, he started to lean in a little
bit toward what could have been poetry, but it was
so platitudinous, and also it was a self contradictory. So
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within the span of about three minutes, at the end
of the speech, he says, we are still the United
States of America. We have enduring values. We believe what
we've always believed, these old enduring ideas, and then not
two seconds later, he says, but we got to get
rid of the old ideas. We need all the new ideas.
And I said, wait a second, but you had two
speech writers clearly with separate theses on this, and they
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Speaker 1 (24:21):
Center.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You did Hannity tonight, and there was one thing that
Handy said that I thought was very interesting in his monologue.
He was talking about the obsession with the White House,
saying that the economy's strong and Bidenomics is working. I
want you to hear what he had to say for
everyone that missed it. It's very interesting.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Let's start with his lives on the economy.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Take a look, I heard it. Economy is on the
brink now.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Our economy is literally the envy of the world. Fifteen
million new jobs in just three years, a record, a
record way.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Just keep going up. In flash, she keeps coming down.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Inflation has dropped from nine percent to three percent, the
lowest in the world and tending lower.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
The land he is and will be saw all right.
Here is the truth. Here of the facts.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
Since Biden took office, cumulative prices have risen over seventeen percent.
Real hourly wages have only risen thirteen percent. Sixty percent
of our fellow Americans, sadly, they are living paycheck to
paycheck now costs across the board. They are surgery, groceries,
are eating up more of the American people's paychecks, and
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they have in over thirty years. In fact, according to
a recent study, Americans now need to make eleven four
hundred dollars more to afford the same quality of life
that they did in twenty twenty one. And his claims
about job creation another lie. In reality, almost ten million
of those jobs are just well backfield jobs or temporary
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jobs that were lost during the pandemic. And as we
know now many of those other jobs were part time
jobs going too many farm born workers.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That he's led it in this country on veted illegally.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I mean, Senator, you hear that montage. It's spot on.
But this goes back to how tone death this White
House seems to be. It's the economy, stupid. You walk
out there and you the beginning of the stay of
the Union was, I'm going to tell the American people
you must give massive amounts of money Ukraine or you're
an evil person. You better give me abortion on demand
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and help me allow me to kill more babies, or
you're a terrible person. And I'm going to oh and
on top of that, I'm going to attack the Supreme
Court in front of me and basically say they're illegitimate.
And then after forty something minutes, I might mention the
number one issue for many Americans, which is border security.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It took him forty plus minutes to get to that.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Well, and before we turn to border security, which we
obviously are going to talk about, let's pause for a
second on inflation, and I'll say number one. Hannity referenced
the study that's say it's over eleven thousand dollars a
year to live the same standard of living you had
in twenty twenty one, just three years ago before Joe
Biden came to office. That works out to nearly one
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thousand dollars more a month. Wow, is what people are
having to pay just to tread water, just to stay
where they were in twenty twenty one. And I get
to say, the moment where Biden seemed most out of
touch on this issue was when he did his whole
shrink flation thing, And it kind of felt like, you
remember Andy Rooney, who'd be like, you ever notice when
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you have potato chips as many potato chips in the
bag as they used to be.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Why is that it's a direct quote from the State
of the Union.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
It if you're trying not to seem like a crazy
old man ranting, maybe don't sound like a crazy old
man ranting. And on the other level, no kidding, Yes,
we're aware what shrink inflation is and you caused it,
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Like there's no actual use of the cranium to say, well,
what is causing those mean old corporations to put fewer
potato chips in the bag. Do they just hate their
customers and don't want them to eat potato chips? Or
are they dealing with inflation and it costs more and
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more and more and they're trying to find ways to
fight the inflation that you caused by printing trillions of
dollars in money we didn't have. There's no awareness of that.
There's just ranting, I don't like shrinkflation, So what are
we gonna do? Pass Bob Casey's bill on shrinkflation? And
we're all looking at each other going, what the hell
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does Casey have?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Like, like, what does Casey have a law?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
We're going to count the chips in your bag and
if you're below the chips, Joe Biden gives you four
hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Like Hostito's Protection Act from Casey you know it. It
reminded me of that meme of the guy who has
the gun and he turns around and he shoots someone,
and then he looks at the camera. He says, why
did X, Y and Z do that? Right, and blames
anything else, And it's Biden with the inflation. He has
all this massive spending and then he says, why did
the tostitos company do that? But if you had taken
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even economics one oh one in high school, you would say, look,
the chip company has always had an incentive to maximize profits.
The thing that has change is not that all of
a sudden the potato chip company wants to make money.
Clearly something else in the economic He's changed here between
the last eight years or so.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
By the way, when the economy is booming, think what
big mean corporations do they sell megamega size even more chips,
you know, the big gulp with enough to drink to
have you on caffeine for the next thirteen weeks.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Like that, Also is the profit.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Motive if you're not dealing with crushing inflation and trying
to figure out a way to make things work right.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
All right, I gotta ask you guys about the heckling
that happened. There was one person that heckled tonight. It's
now being reported that that individual was a gold star
father whose son, Lance Colonel Karen nick Koori, who was
killed by a terrorist suicide bomber during Joe Biden's disastrous
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withdraw from Afghanistan. I usually am not a big fan
of heckling. I don't think that's heckling once I learned
the backstory. That was an angry father who saw a
president that was rewriting history.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Look, we did not know the backstory when he yelled.
We could tell he was yelling something about a marine company,
but we couldn't tell the details in that room. Obviously,
if his son lost his life, I wondered if it
was if it was one of the Marines who was
killed in Afghanistan, if that's what he was referring to,
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and apparently it was. Look, Joe Biden accepts no responsibility
for anything, and instead his White House tries to whitewash
every foreign policy disaster as an absolute success. And you know,
when it comes to the thirteen servicemen and women who
died in Afghanistan, that was completely unnecessary.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
It was Biden's fault.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
By the way, one of my favorite pods we ever
did is when we focused on the testimony of the
young marine who was there in Afghanistan and had the
suicide bomber, had him identified him, was prepared to take
him out, and the Biden White House wouldn't let him,
and he was prevented from doing so, and those service
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men and women were killed.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
You know, I'm seeing a news report now. I don't
know if it's been verified or not, that the man
who was yelling out about his son and the Marines
was arrested and charged with a misdemeanor for interrupting Biden.
And I didn't know it was a crime at all
to interrupt the state of the Union. If it is,
I imagine not a court in the land would ever convict
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him given the circumstances of what he did.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Have you seen the DC district courts? Well, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I was saying, you'll have a much shot, and yeah,
trust me, they'll go after them all the way.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Right. I forgot where we were broadcasting from right now.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It was putting you in the swamp, brother, You were
right in the swamp.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
But putting that particular instance aside it did seem to
me that there was more heckling than usual. You've been
to a dozen of these centators.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, Look, I mean there has been. The Democrats were
doing lots of the four more years, which was weird.
I don't recall I don't recall anyone doing that for Obama.
I don't recall folks doing it for Trump. I may
not be remembering it, but if it happened, I don't
remember it, you know, I will say, Look, in recent years,
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I have not like. There are some House Republicans who
heckled the president, and I got.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
To say, I really dislike that.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I disagree passionately with Joe Biden, but I respect the
office of the presidency and what it represents, and so
even if I disagree with him, I just think it's
not Look, a gold star father is a different circumstance,
But for a member of Congress, I think heckling is
is not not consistent with the decorum and respect that
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is owed, not just the presidency. By the way, did
you notice what didn't happen at the beginning of the speech?
Did you notice the Speaker of the House speak the
House the speech up into shreds, and.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
He didn't get to introduce him. Did you notice that
as well? Usually you have him introduce He didn't do that.
The President just walked up there, went straight to the
to the podium and started talking. And the entire moment
where you're supposed to introduce him that comes to the
Speak of the House never happened.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
It was It was very odd and look the heckling
led to So I predicted before the speech that there
were four words that that Biden would not say, Lake
and Riley and Jeremy Caserras. Now, as it so happened,
he kind of sort of said Lake.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
And Riley, but he almost tried to.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
But he did so in response to heckling someone calling
out say her name, and there were many members of
Congress wearing buttons and pins that said Lake and Riley,
say her name.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
And he said the wrong name.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
He said Lincoln Riley, which the.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Head football coach at usc.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It and he had one of those buttons. So I
think I think one of the members of Congress had
given it to him.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yes, I don't know if it was Congressman Andy Ogles
who actually invited me tonight, or if it was Marjorie
Taylor Green or what but there were a handful of
the conservative congressman who had it, and what I heard
from one of the members was that they handed it
to the president. He leaned it, he said, oh, I
like your button. But I don't think it was sarcastic.
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I think he legitimately had no idea what was going
on and what it represented.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Well, look when the heckling happened, he responded, and he
did sort of try to say her name, although he
didn't get it right. But then look what he said.
He said, you know, she was killed. I'm sorry she
was killed, and he expressed sympathy for the parents. And
I got to say that may have been the moment
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that pissed me off the most because listen, so Lake
and Riley's parents were invited, and actually, you know, they
were invited and they decided not to come. And I
understand they are grieving the loss of their daughter, their
home in Georgia, and the Georgia House member who invited
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them left the seat vacant in honor of Lake and Riley.
And you know, frankly, they don't want Joe Biden's empathy.
They don't want a Hallmark.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Card from him.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
They want their daughter back and and what Joe Biden
didn't do is take responsibility for his direct culpability. And
let's walk through. Lake and Riley never should have been killed.
The illegal immigrant who murdered her was caught. He was
apprehended in Texas, in El Paso. He came illegally from Venezuela.
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We had him. And what should have happened is the
Biden administration should have followed the law. They should have
put him on a plane and flown him back to Venezuela.
And if Joe Biden had done that, Lake and Riley
would still be alive today.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
But it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Just l Pass was so so frustrating about this, all
a totally preventable tragedy. Yes, they could have gotten him
in New York. They did get him in New York.
He committed a crime in New York they let him go.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
He was arrested for endangering a child. But New York City,
again run by Democrats, calls itself a sanctuary city, and
they let him go. If Joe Biden had deported him,
Lake and Riley would be alive. If New York City
had kept it and jail, Lake and Riley would be
a lot forget.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
About New York City.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
He ends up in Athens, Georgia, and he steals from
a store. I forget which store. It was the Georgia authorities.
I think he was cited with a misdemeanor for shoplifting.
You had three distinct opportunities.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Three chances to get rid of him.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Three chances, three strikes, You're out, and a poor American
student winds up dead because.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And by the way, let's be clear, Jeremy Cassaris is
a two year old boy, a beautiful little boy who
was murdered just weeks ago in Prince George's County in Virginia,
about thirty miles from where Joe Biden was standing. And
that little boy was murdered again by an illegal immigrant
that Joe Biden let go. This is happening across the country.
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We're getting day after day stories of children raped by
illegal immigrants. Joe Biden is let go. And he had
zero acknowledgment of that, zero intention of changing anything. It
was just crocodile tears of I'm so sorry about your daughter,
without acknowledging it happened because of his policies, and he
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continues to do those policies which means there'll be another
lake in Riley tomorrow and another set of parents that
he again disingenuously apologizes well.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
And the proof that the President doesn't seem to care
about this issue is the fact that it took him
forty minutes into an hour speech to even mention the
border on his own. That's how far they buried the
border issue in his State of the Union speech.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
What I wondered when he was browbeating the Republicans for
not voting for even more illegal immigration, which is what
his border bill would have done, is is he just
counting on the American people not realizing that he is
dismantling the fence that the Texas border authorities are putting up,
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That it's not merely passivity that he's allowing.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Actually give you a little bit of correction on that
he wants to dismantle it, but he hasn't actually done it.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
He hasn't succeeded.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
No, No, the razor wire is there, and they ended up
Texas had gotten an injunction preventing the Biden administration from
removing the razor wire, and that injunction got reversed. So
the Biden administration is no longer prevented from removing the
razor wire, but they have not done so.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
They wanted to do it, they're prevented from doing it,
they're then allowed to do it, but they got spooked
by the politics off Yeah. Wow, Wow, that's actually encouraging
that someone at the White House is saying, hold on
that that really crazy thing that we were going to do.
Maybe let's hold off, yeah for a few days.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
All right, before we end, I got to get you
guys reaction to two different things, two clips from CNN.
You guys were obviously in the chamber and you didn't
get to see all the commentary. I want you to
hear what CNN had to say about the state of
the Union. This is clip one.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
He seemed like Walkowski, you talking about this area, he said,
like Walkawowski and Grandtarino screaming at kids, get off my lawn,
like an old guy screaming agains.
Speaker 9 (40:12):
My guess is that when he got into the heart
of his agenda, the things that you ridicule about the
cost of food and you know, price gouging and so on.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I bet you that scored.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
With a lot of people. I think that they the
populist economic agenda is a powerful, powerful thing for him.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Look, there are parts of it.
Speaker 9 (40:35):
I'm not sure that the attacks all landed exactly. They
may have landed well in that room for sure, and
they landed well with base voters for sure. I'm not
sure where those swing voters that they landed as well,
but I do think.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I mean, that's David Axrod, the former Obama you know,
senior advisor, who's saying, you know, in response to one
of the commenters saying, look it was it was like
an old guy screaming to the kids get off my lawn.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's what you said earlier. Center.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
But they're saying CNN and he's even admitting, hey, there's
a pretty good chance that didn't play well or land
with independent voters.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Okay, Ben, you're really scaring me? Are you telling me that,
unbeknownst to me, I was channeling David Axelrod on CNN.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Holy crap. I might have to just hang it all
up right now. It's over.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I am off the rails, Michael right now.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Something we need to correct something.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
And I got to say even worse, Axelrod's analogy is better.
He threw out the whole grand Tarino like he took
it one notch better. I am just thoroughly humiliated.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
And not only that, you'll like this one.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
So then there was another commentator on CNN who actually
said this about the president's speech.
Speaker 8 (41:46):
Listen, he talked about snickers and snack chips before he
ever got to the border. He was obsessed with his
political rival more than he was obsessed with the condition
of the American people.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
It was so weird.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
This guy lectures us all on unity, the soul of
the nation, and he gives the most partisan convention speech
in place of a state of a Union that I've
ever heard. It's the literal opposite of unity. It's so partisan.
He's obsessed with taunting Republicans. It's not statesman life. Can
let's say one thing on Israel?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I mean, that was Scott Jennings, a former col league
of mine, who said that.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
And he's right, by the way.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
I mean, he did talk about snickers and snack chips
before he ever got to the border.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
It was his words. It was just weird.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
I like his observation that Joe Biden thought he was
at the DNC.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Maybe that's as simple as that.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
You know, he thought he walked into the convention Whoosie
Daisy had actually was a joint session for the state
of the Union. But you know, the man doesn't remember
his own name.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I will say one thing that also, that clip reminded
me of It was odd how many times he referenced Trump.
I cannot think of any state of the Union in
my lifetime with that many references to your opponent, the
forer president, the forer president, the former president. And you
know he's like, you know, you know, I believe in
(43:08):
in truth and happiness and love and puppy dogs and fairies,
and my opponent believes in hate and suffering, in misery
and dead puppies.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Like like it was just like, really, do a little
defensive you would.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Say, campaign one I want.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I will tell you the list of things Biden didn't
mention to say the Union. You guys ready for this.
He did not mention US service members killed in Afghanistan.
He did not mention US service members killed by Iranian
backed proxies in the Middle East. He did not mention
gas prices. He did not mention TikTok or China uh.
He did not mention North Korea. He didn't mention Cuba.
(43:47):
He didn't mention school choice. He didn't mention the classified
doc scandal. He didn't mention Hunter Biden or the Biden corruption.
He did not mention fossil fuels. He did not mention
deporting illegals. He did not mention border wall, he did
not mention the attacks on pregnancy centers, and he did
not mention China's human rights abuses. Notice a lot of
those connect with people that have given money the Biden
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crime family.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'll leave it with that center your reaction.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Well, but do you have anything to say about how
many chips are in a bag of chips?
Speaker 5 (44:18):
I think you know, I think he did touch on
that important subject.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Do you know the state of the Union may be
in trouble, but the state of chips is really in trouble.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
There you go, Michael, Hey, welcome back, my friend. Always
a pleasure. This is fun, nice way to recap the
stay of the Union here. Don't forget Senator Cruise Nighty
This show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. We also have the
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