May 6, 2025 • 27 mins
On this week's episode of WYHA, we're testing the friendship and testing new ways to bond, and speaking of friendships: we unpack how often you should be talking to your friends, types of friendships and the best communication types, enjoy x
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What happens if one day everyone just goes radio silent
on you.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'd have anxiety, a nervous breakdown, anxiety attack and be like,
what have I done? Yeah? Love it in my own head,
like wait, have I done something? What's this? The rejection
sensitive just more for that ad I'd be like, what's
going on? What have I done? Lose my mind?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Where's your head at? Is a podcast that talks full things. Right,
Hold on a sec, let's give this a refresh. Hi,
I'm Anna.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And I'm Matt, and we are now too newlywed, not
to each other. Just a female and male best friend
here for the good, the bad, and the ugly times.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Come get the lowdown.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
This is your male and female perspective.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So Matt, where's your head at? Good morning, Matt.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Good morning? Anna wears your head at?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, I'm holding a coffee in hand, which is a
big deal because I have not drunk coffee for the
whole of this pregnancy, which is crazy when you think
about it, Like the amount if you're a longtime listener,
wears your head at you know how much Matt and
I used to smash coffee is one for one? Will
you still do this?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I think I'm probably going to have about a quarter
of this, but I've reacquired the coffee taste.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
When I called you to ask for your order, you
were telling me and I was literally sitting there at
the counter and the girls looking at me, and You're like,
can I get it? I'm only going to drink a
quarter of it, so you can get me a quarter
three quarter field sweete with a medium hot milk, but
no phone order, And I just was like, okay, I'll
just get your.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Coffee just by guys, don't believe anything that's coming out
of his mouth. I did not. I did say that
they could put three quarters in it because I'm not
going to drink anything.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I think she heard that and she did do that,
didn't she?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I think, so yeah, But thank you for my coffee
this morning. Anyway, So how are you? I literally walked
into the studio, guys, and that was reading his book
and I was like, wow, who is he?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No, Well, it's in the juicy end of my Goosebumps
the Haunted House, So I'm at the back end of it,
So I'm really trying to get it done because I
want to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You're about to finish. Yes, I am, that's an accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It is. Yeah, it's now my third or fourth Goosebumps one.
I'm loving him.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You're going to have the whole series. There is one.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't know if there is now there is one,
and there's other series. There's heaps of them. Actually did
a bit of like googling, so I realized, oh, this
isn't part of the normal series. I'm not going to
go too much into that. There's all different spin offs
of them. But I wanted to touch on that though,
because when we spoke about it, and I think a
couple of weeks ago, yeah, I was like, really appreciated
everyone's messages. I was getting heaps and messages from people
(02:51):
telling me that it's not I shouldn't be ashamed of
reading Goosebumps. A lot of people also struggled with reading,
and they were saying that, look, start at whatever level
you can. That's pretty much what they were saying. They're
proud of me for giving it a go. So I'd
like to thank everyone for their messages and reaching out to.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Me, yeah, and I think, like, you know, the fact
that you're even reading is great. Like, people don't pick
up books for a long time. I'm trying to read
a parenting book and I've got a quarter of the
way through, and I actually need this information and it's
hard to you know, we all live such busy lives,
it's hard to pick up a book.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, one person said, like, don't listen to people when
they hate you for it. They're like, if you enjoy it,
do it like and obviously you're enjoying it, So keep reading.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Be loud and proud about it. Read it wherever you want.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was reading it here in the studio while Blake
was setting up the cameras. He started trying to start
a chat with me, and I was just like, yeah,
trying to smash some pages I'm reading.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, it's it's cool that people who are supporting you
and behind you about it. And like I said a
couple of weeks ago, it really pissed me off that
people were giving a shit about it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Let the man read, Well, they're not now, they're actually
supporting me and they're telling me to keep reading. But
on that messages, I was getting a bunch of messages
about going to the movies by myself.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh yeah, so you've liked to do that for a
while though, I know.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And that's what people were actually saying. They're like, how
nice is going to the movies, getting popcorn and sitting
there by yourself and relaxing. And I was like, I
love going to the movies. Yeah, I go with my partner,
I go with my step kids, like I go all
the time, go with my sisters. I love to go
to the movies.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You do love a movie.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
If no one we know and if no one is
interested in going to that movie with me, I'm not
gonna skip it. I'm going to go by myself. I
mean I do TikTok years ago about going to the
movies by myself because no one wanted to go with me.
And I love doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And you know what I've got to give you it
like you have a lot of confidence. I personally can't relate,
Like you would never catch me into movies by myself.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
A lot of people message saying that they do it
as well, and they loved going and it's a find
a way of peace, and they just switch off. I
turned my phone off and I just sat there and
watched it. Actually, sorry, I took the photos of the
the title and then turn my hand and then turned
I always do that. I have my phone ready and
then take the title and then I turned it off.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know what, one thing I do love to do
by myself, which I'm comfortable with is going for a
coffee by myself, or getting like a croissant at a
breakfast place, or getting getting breakfast by myself. I'm totally
comfortable with that. Like, I love that. I think it's
really good. In fact, you've been in my area recently
quite a lot working.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, I don't really talk about my work too.
So I've been working for my dad. So he obviously
has a company down in Melbourne which I used to
company Pool company that I used to work for, and
I was doing a bit of work while I was
up on the Gold Coast for UHIM here and there.
But he's had some people leave, some people retire, so
I've come down now to just be on the ground.
It's easy. We found it was easier that way to like,
(05:47):
you know, go see the clients, go see the boys
on site and all that sort of stuff. So I've
been down, yeah, helping him out a fair bit, so
it's good to be back out there.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
They aren't they expanding to the GC.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, yeah, there is talk of that, definitely looking into that.
I'm just you know, seeing sussing stuff out, getting contractors,
seeing building licenses and all that sort of stuff. So
we're looking into that all.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
No, it's not, it's really there's a big going on.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Love.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I do love it, but like it's you know, it's stressful.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, it's all jobs. Something he said to me the
other day. You have been saying that we haven't really
seen each other a lot outside of the podcast recently,
and you've mentioned that for a while, you've been trying
to get me to go to the movies and watch
(06:37):
horror movies with you, which I refuse to do because
I care about my mental health.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I've I've been easying up on it as you're pregnant
and you're like, I don't want to get you scared
and stressed out. But as soon as old Stan comes out,
he will take you to the movies and you can
watch one.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I think we need to pivot away from movies and
finds like a duel hobby that we like. That's not
scary movies, because I feel like scary movies is your thing.
We need something like that we can do together, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And well, I think there's a couple of things if
you're get into. But I've got one in mind which
I really love and I reckon you'll enjoy as well.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, I feel like I know what this is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Go ahead? What is it? Is it?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
The NRL?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yes? Do you hear me talking about it? It's the
other day, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, I mean that you always talk about the NRL.
But also I have a funny story about the NRL
because I got invited to the NRL. I think it
was last year with Michael, and because I'm so clueless
on all things sport, I read NRL and I thought
it was a basketball So I was like, Michael, I've
got us tickets to the basketball. We're going to the basketball. Yeah,
(07:44):
And literally on our way out of the door, I
showed Michael the tickets because I was like here, like,
you take the tickets, and he's like, Babe, this is
the NRL. Ah rugby, this is the rugby. We're going
to the rugby. And I was like, oh, okay, I've
never been to before, got it totally wrong. But actually
(08:06):
I had a really fun time there. Loved it. I
think the Storm was playing from memory. The Purple team yep,
loved the color, love the mascot as well. Actually love it.
There was a lot going on, like there was I
don't know if there was fireworks, but there was definitely
like flames fly, there was flay I think cheerleaders maybe.
(08:26):
So yeah, very entertaining and yeah I loved it so
I could I could get into the NRL with you,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
This was a lot easier than I thought to get
a hobby going together the NRL. I got more into
it living on the Gold Coast Queensland. Love it up there.
It's on the TV all the time. Yeah, yeah, it's
pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So who's your team?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I would say I grew up going for the North
Queensland Cowboys, but living on the Gold Coast, I have
to go for the Gold Coast Titans.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah. I feel like I'm more Storm, but I'm not
one hundred percent like I like the Mass like the Purple.
I mean obviously I saw them play they won, so
that was like a good star. So I don't personally
have a team. I'm veering towards the Storm because obviously
I saw them play. We like the color purple, liked
(09:15):
the mascot. But you know, I'm open. I'm open to
exploring new teams as well.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Sounds like you're on Love Island saying you're open to
other connections. But okay, you can't judge your team off
the color. I know that's ridiculous, right you said the mascot. Yeah,
I think that's a fair enough call. You can. So
let's have a look at some other mascots and see
if you prefer them over the Melbourne storm one. Okay,
so this is the Melbourne storm one.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Okay, See, that's like I'm veering towards him. I think
he's pretty cool Stormman, the Stormman. He kind of looks
like Superman. He's in a purple likera suit.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
He does look like a superhero, doesn't he?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
He does look like a superhero. Okay, what about he
also gave me a high five for the game, I
will say, so he's really for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Where about the South Sydney rabbit os.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, look, I'm not loving his fit. The color scheme
is more Christmas vires with the red and cream.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's a crush on Eastern Christmas, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It is? It is, which it would be good for
you because you love holidays and celebrating Eastern Christmas. But
I'm going to say pass.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What about Reefy the Cronulla sharks.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
If we're going off mascots, I'm going to go off
the shark.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Muscly guy. That top's looking a little tired on him.
The pants as well.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Sharks are you know the apex predator out there in
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
He needs to kind of like roof off his Okay,
that's a maybe.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Maybe, Reefy. We've got claws from the Penrith panthers.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Okay, he looks pretty cool. He's got some cool shades
going on. Muscly, he's got a typed up he looks
pretty harsh.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah. The Penrith panthers are are majestic animal, aren't they?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Panthers are up there.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, so we've nearly got the panthers. Okay, I'll give
you one more Anna, Okay, go the Sydney Roosters. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I like the colorway, I love Navy, but I mean
I did like the other guy, the panther.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Okay, So have you steered away from Melbourne Storm?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No, definitely not. I think like my top three would
have to be Melbourne Storm, the Panthers which is who Sydney,
the Penrith Panthers, and the Roosters. What one was that?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
The Sydney Roosters.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The Sydney Roosters. Okay, so they're my top three, but
don't hold me to it. I need to message to
the group chat get final approofals and who are you again?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm the Gold Coast Titans.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Gold Coast Titans, okay and bye.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well you might be picking between those three, but for
your son, Steve O, I'm gonna make him go for
the Gold Coast Titans. He's in new member of the
Gold Coach Titans cheer squad.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh my god, guys, stay tuned for this activity. Matt
and I are getting into the NRL. We'll go to
a game, let's do it. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, I've got a bone to pick with you. Okay, bone?
You know your Mother's Day? No, you're not your Mother's Day.
Your mother's baby shower, my mother, blessing, mother, blessing. See
you don't even know what it is. No wonder I
didn't give mother's blessing. It's an old girl event, though,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, I didn't get invited, you're saying.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I know, I'm Actually it looked cute from what I saw.
It looked sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So I felt like I was getting a lot of
pressure to do a baby shower. Obviously it's my first baby,
and I feel like, you know, there's just there's a
lot of stuff that babies need. I think is what
I've realized in the past, like five ish weeks when
I've started getting things ready, like even like, do you
know what a muslin rap is exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Can I take a guess? Yeah? Sure, it's when you
wrap them up in there in the blanket while they're
asleep so they can't roll anywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Do you think so? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I think so. Do you want silverettza they are?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They are a type of diver? Yeah? Is that a
full stuff? After? Wrong? Was right there?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Silverretta like these little silver things that you put on
your nipples when you're breastfeeding to like relax, like not
relax the nipples, to soothe the nipples from like nipple
trauma from breastfeeding.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, it's pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Apparently, white. Well, I don't know about that, hopefully not.
Maybe probably I think they have a sucking reflex to
drink the milk.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, go on.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Matt's like favorite for where's your bump?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I say, which is live? Guys at the moment.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yes, where's your quickly where's your bumpat is live? It's
going really well. I've had the most beautiful messages of
people saying, thank you so much for putting this together
because you know, it really just encompasses the experience of
either wanting kids or being pregnant or you know, trying
or whatever it is. So thank you for listening. Make
(14:14):
sure you listen. We have two episodes out right now,
three no, three three yeah, so give it a listen.
And I really appreciate all of the feedback. But no,
so yeah, I had a mother's blessing. I felt a
lot of pressure to do a baby shower, and I
don't know, I feel like I kind of left that
too late. Like I'm very pregnant. I'm heavily pregnant. It's
(14:37):
what people are calling me at the moment, which I'm
okay with because I am heavily pregnant and I just
really couldn't be bothered. I couldn't be bothered putting on
a party. I feel like, you know, I had a
thirtieth had an engagement party, had a wedding last year,
and I'm like, I was one year. Well, no, who wasn't, But.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I'm gone thirty we got married.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Thirty one?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You did yet? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Anyway, anyway, I've put on a lot of parties. I
couldn't be bothered with it. I've heard of this thing
called a mother blessing, and it's basically less about you know,
the gifts for the baby, and it's.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
More about the mother.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, it's about the mom. Like it's looking after the mom,
say you dug no. I think like I'm the first
person in my friendship group to have a baby, so
I really wanted to set the precedence of, like, you know,
be there for each other, like support each other, Please
support me. I don't know handle postpartum. And it was lovely,
(15:36):
Like everyone brought a bead and they made me like
this little bracelet with all of the beads from each
person which were all sentimental and I'm going to wear
it when I go to have the baby and just yeah,
and like everyone got a candle and everyone. We burned
it for the whole mother blessing, but when they know
that I'm heading to the hospital, They're going to start
(15:57):
burning the candle for me, and just like things like that.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Wow. Real it was quite.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Spiritual and just I felt very loved and kind of
looked after and supported and it was really nice. Like
I would recommend doing a mother's blessing to anyone who's
pregnant and who I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Know how I would have gone there. I would have
sort of been like, mind you, I wasn't even in
the state, so I wasn't even in the state. But
if I was there, I don't know. It seems real spiritual, real.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Well, we got like everyone got quite emotional at one point.
It sounds because like you start the mother blessing by
saying I'm the granddaughter of and then you say your grandparents' names,
and you say I am the daughter of my mum Emory,
and then I would say and I'm the mother of
and then I said the baby's name, like to be mother,
(16:45):
don't continue trying to get the name. But yeah, no,
it was lovely, highly recommend it, very I feel very supportive,
and yeah, it was just good vibes all around. Really Okay, Matt.
Today on the podcast, we are talking about how often
(17:05):
we should be chatting with our friends.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yes, well, how often do you think you should be
chatting to your friends?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, I mean you you're a caller, so you call
all the time, So I think this is not including.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, I think that's not I know a lot of
my mates have like said they screened my calls because
I'm a caller.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Really because I don't want to chat on the phone.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, they're not cause.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Some people don't like some people find it uncomfortable or
like it is time consuming to chat on the phone.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It is, but a lot of the best time to call,
I feel in a lot of when my mates actually
call me back is when they're driving. Yeah, true, I think.
And then I think that My mum actually pointed out
to me, she said, you only call me when you're driving,
but you don't realize what I'm doing on the other end,
like I'm not driving, do you know what I mean?
And I'm like, yeah, true, never thought of it like that?
Selfish a little bit like that, how often do you
(17:53):
reckon your message your friends?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Then I would say, like the group chat would be
like three times a week. Yeah, what do you think
about the group chat?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh, that's sporadic and could be here there, you could
be here, that could be on fire one time. It
could be like you know, it could be on fire
back NonStop messages, or it could be as dry as
a sahara. No one's chatting. It just really depends if
there's something we're trying to tee up.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, then there's a bit more.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, but I have I honestly, with the boys, I'll
have I have so many different separate group chats.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
We were like one person get's left.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Hand, yeah, or there's different like things. If one event
was organized and then that group chat keeps going for
a while and that fizzled out, do you know what
I mean? And then like something might spark another group
chat because you know, like say my bucks one that
flares up randomly when something happens that's relevant to that
nice yeah, and then it gets a little bit of
my managument it just fizzle out again.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
It's funny. I was watching an episode of Keeping Up
with the Kardashians and they have like lots of different
group chats. But they'll have like a not Kim group chat,
not Courtney group chat. Really, I guess if they want
a bitch about each other, they'll go to like the
you know not Kendle group chat and be like, can
you leave Kendle did this?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's a bit of effets. We have. Yeah, we have
like even family ones like mother, kids, dad and kids
and mum and like we have different ones. I'm actually
in one with my mates. Am part of a football team,
and it's called Carpool plus Matt, so I hear all.
I've muted it now, but it's all their car pool
things to go to because they play a country football team,
and they like talk about where they're meeting and times
(19:26):
and the game on the weekend and all this sort
of stuff and random football blows and I'm just like, yeah,
I can't, I've got to mute this. But they're my
best mates, so I stay in there. I haven't left.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I just think, like, you sound like you have way
too many group chats for me, Like that kind of
stresses me out. I have my friend group chat. I
have my friends plus the boys group chats like the
boyfriends and husbands or whatever, and then I have the
family group chat, and there's like a couple of variations,
but that's pretty much about it.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
We have a couple of where's your head at ones?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
We have where's your head out? Where's your bump hat
as well, but they're more like working group chat. Actually,
I have a few group chats now I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You have heaps I They go off here and there.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It just depends, really, I mean, look, there's lots of
different ways to communicate with your friends. Obviously, I feel
like FaceTime would be the closest thing to being in person. Yeah.
So there's FaceTime. Then there's calling, which you love to do.
There's texting, there's voice noting.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Are you a voice noter?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I am? Sometimes if there's too.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Much info that I can't my little thumbs can't be followed.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I how long is a voice note should be? I
saw this debate on TikTok. How long should a voice
note be to your friend?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
A minute?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I think longer than a minute? Yeah, stop, I'm not
listening to that, you know what I mean? I think,
what bang on a minute? Once it hits like a
minute oh two, I feel like that's when I'm rapping
my voice.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Get to the point.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Get to the point.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
If you've not got there yet you're know they're.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Going to get there because I remember a new girl
who would send my friend like literally like three minute
once and she'd sit there listening to it, and I'm like,
that's drain.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Like, yeah, you need to get to the point.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You get to the point by a minute. I think
that's the average length of a voice not to a
friend for.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Sure, and like you're not looking like if someone sending
a four minute voice note.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's a bit like do you read the text on
a voice not how it scribs out the text underneath.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Sometimes if I'm like, yeah, I'll read it in a
place where I can't listen out loud, but I'd prefer
to listen.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay, I prefer to read it or listen to it.
And it's so funny because it's how scrabbled up it is,
scrambled like scrambled in different words it.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Okay. Then there's sending videos as in like not sending
videos of yourself, like sending reels and reels and tiktoks, yes,
which you love to do. I love to do that too,
actually to connect with friends. Like even if I'm not
saying hi to you, I might send you a little
reel where I've been reminded of you and even like
a little connection.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Even before I literally was saw a real or TikTok,
just before I was a reel on Instagram and I
literally sent it to like three different group charts, six
different mates, and you just send it off to all
of them. Yeah, I'm massive at reels and tiktoks ending.
I'm a huge of that. It's probably I get stuck
in those TikTok holes and I send so many. Yeah,
it's probably the only communication I have with one of
(22:09):
my best mates, benji Obi, Me and him just literally
send reels and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You just never speak.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, finally enough, we're getting lunch after this downstairs.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But it's the one off.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Normally it's just TikTok sending and we've got like different
things that keep going different inside jokes and the tiktoks
and that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
So what you'll just see each other and be like,
so let's talk about all of the tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
At each other, just sending each other things.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
No chat, I don't have a profit.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
We'll chat normally.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
How often do we need to talk to our friends though?
Because like I know that we say you know, two
or three times a week roughly, kind of checking with
people see how they're going. As someone who's about to
go into having a baby postpartum, I'm hoping that my
friends check up on me and say how you're going?
But then am I going to be too busy and
exhausted to reply? I don't know. There's so many questions
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for me personally.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I think seeing your friends should be really up to
each other. I think if it goes some friends though
you could not see for like a month, true, and
it's just like where you picked up. Like I went
to a thirtieth the other day for my mate. I
hadn't seen him in probably a year. I briefly caught
up with him at my wedding. You know how that
is catching up. That's like just brief at weddings. It's
(23:19):
not like a full thing. But I was like, I'd
never not seen him. Yeah, talk spoken normally.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Well. It is interesting that you say that. I have
a lot of friends who live overseas, one in la
one in London, and when they come back to Australia,
it's literally like nothing has changed. We just fall straight
back into being friends. But do I talk to them
as much as I would like to when they're over there,
Probably not, I think, with the time differences and things
(23:47):
like that. But there are some friends where you don't
need to talk to them every week or every month,
or you know, every maybe three months, and then you'll
talk to them and you'll have like a really nice chat,
or you might have a forty five minute for conversation
and just unpack both of your lives and kind of
be like, okay, we're good for another three months.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Three months literally the same. But like I said, it's
case by case. I don't think you can put an
actual amount of times on each I think you need to,
you know, maybe even talk to your friend and say, hey,
check in, are you okay? Do you want to talk more?
I'm here for you. Let's chat. Let's go get a drink,
let's get a coffee, Let's go for a drive, Let's
go to the beach, Let's go get some ice cream.
Let's just hang out. If you want to hang out,
let's chat. If you want to call, let's call facetiming.
(24:28):
If you want facetimeing, text me, I'm here for your.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
God, even the I just was talking, Oh my god,
that like really whigged me out. I felt like I
was going to labor or something. Oh my gosh, Okay,
I'm still recovering from that. But interestingly enough, many close
friendships actually thrive on more regular communication. For instance, there
(24:52):
was a study that found that fifty nine percent of
teenagers are in touch with their closest friends daily, which
to me is not surprising.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, when you're at school with them.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
So, yeah, they're seeing each other at school, they're communicating,
they have social media, smartphones. It's a little bit, you know,
it's easy.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's easier to communicate. Yeah, you have to call the
home phone.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, you have to tell phone, dial up, the internet.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Hey, we spend there.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yea to the parents alone. As opposed to for adult friendships,
especially those involving busy professionals or long distance friendships, weekly
or monthly interactions are actually sufficient, so you don't need
as much talking and interacting and reassurance. But again, it's
(25:43):
nice to always check in with your friends, making sure
that they're all good, even if it's just like a
little how you're going, what's happening in your world?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
What's your preferred I'm not gonna say method, what's your
preferred way of catching up with a friend.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Okay, I would say like booking in like a dinner
and like, obviously I can't drink at the moment, but
maybe having a couple of cocktails, having dinner kind of
unwinding on like what's happening in both of our lives,
or even if it's just like getting breakfast or a coffee,
breakfast and a walk. Yeah, like sometimes when we go
for a coffee rarely, but now really when we have
(26:21):
gone for a coffee before, it's actually quite nice and
you just like have a little chat, have a drink
and you know it's cheap, it's easy, and.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A walk afterwards. That's me and my mates when I
come down here, we go out for breakfast and go
for a walk around South Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, I have a question. Are your expectations the same
for your family and loved ones as it is with
your friends.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I don't really have any expectations for people to contact
me or talk to me same? Actually yeah, I mean
if I call you answer.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
What happens if one day everyone just goes radio silent on.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You, I'd have anxiety, a nervous break down, anxiety attacking
and be like, what what have I done? Yeah, love
it in my own head like wait, have I done something?
What's this? The rejection sensitive just more for the ADHD.
I'd be like, what's going on? What have I done?
Lose my mind?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Well, look, guys, this is your sign to check up
on your friends. Say hi, check in and make sure
they're all good, Send them some love, even send them
a TikTok or a reel and until next time, Bye
bye
What happens if one day everyone just goes radio silent
on you.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'd have anxiety, a nervous breakdown, anxiety attack and be like,
what have I done? Yeah? Love it in my own head,
like wait, have I done something? What's this? The rejection
sensitive just more for that ad I'd be like, what's
going on? What have I done? Lose my mind?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Where's your head at? Is a podcast that talks full things. Right,
Hold on a sec, let's give this a refresh. Hi,
I'm Anna.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And I'm Matt, and we are now too newlywed, not
to each other. Just a female and male best friend
here for the good, the bad, and the ugly times.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Come get the lowdown.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
This is your male and female perspective.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So Matt, where's your head at? Good morning, Matt.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Good morning? Anna wears your head at?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, I'm holding a coffee in hand, which is a
big deal because I have not drunk coffee for the
whole of this pregnancy, which is crazy when you think
about it, Like the amount if you're a longtime listener,
wears your head at you know how much Matt and
I used to smash coffee is one for one? Will
you still do this?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I think I'm probably going to have about a quarter
of this, but I've reacquired the coffee taste.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
When I called you to ask for your order, you
were telling me and I was literally sitting there at
the counter and the girls looking at me, and You're like,
can I get it? I'm only going to drink a
quarter of it, so you can get me a quarter
three quarter field sweete with a medium hot milk, but
no phone order, And I just was like, okay, I'll
just get your.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Coffee just by guys, don't believe anything that's coming out
of his mouth. I did not. I did say that
they could put three quarters in it because I'm not
going to drink anything.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I think she heard that and she did do that,
didn't she?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I think, so yeah, But thank you for my coffee
this morning. Anyway, So how are you? I literally walked
into the studio, guys, and that was reading his book
and I was like, wow, who is he?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No, Well, it's in the juicy end of my Goosebumps
the Haunted House, So I'm at the back end of it,
So I'm really trying to get it done because I
want to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You're about to finish. Yes, I am, that's an accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It is. Yeah, it's now my third or fourth Goosebumps one.
I'm loving him.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You're going to have the whole series. There is one.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't know if there is now there is one,
and there's other series. There's heaps of them. Actually did
a bit of like googling, so I realized, oh, this
isn't part of the normal series. I'm not going to
go too much into that. There's all different spin offs
of them. But I wanted to touch on that though,
because when we spoke about it, and I think a
couple of weeks ago, yeah, I was like, really appreciated
everyone's messages. I was getting heaps and messages from people
(02:51):
telling me that it's not I shouldn't be ashamed of
reading Goosebumps. A lot of people also struggled with reading,
and they were saying that, look, start at whatever level
you can. That's pretty much what they were saying. They're
proud of me for giving it a go. So I'd
like to thank everyone for their messages and reaching out to.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Me, yeah, and I think, like, you know, the fact
that you're even reading is great. Like, people don't pick
up books for a long time. I'm trying to read
a parenting book and I've got a quarter of the
way through, and I actually need this information and it's
hard to you know, we all live such busy lives,
it's hard to pick up a book.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, one person said, like, don't listen to people when
they hate you for it. They're like, if you enjoy it,
do it like and obviously you're enjoying it, So keep reading.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Be loud and proud about it. Read it wherever you want.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was reading it here in the studio while Blake
was setting up the cameras. He started trying to start
a chat with me, and I was just like, yeah,
trying to smash some pages I'm reading.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, it's it's cool that people who are supporting you
and behind you about it. And like I said a
couple of weeks ago, it really pissed me off that
people were giving a shit about it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Let the man read, Well, they're not now, they're actually
supporting me and they're telling me to keep reading. But
on that messages, I was getting a bunch of messages
about going to the movies by myself.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh yeah, so you've liked to do that for a
while though, I know.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And that's what people were actually saying. They're like, how
nice is going to the movies, getting popcorn and sitting
there by yourself and relaxing. And I was like, I
love going to the movies. Yeah, I go with my partner,
I go with my step kids, like I go all
the time, go with my sisters. I love to go
to the movies.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You do love a movie.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
If no one we know and if no one is
interested in going to that movie with me, I'm not
gonna skip it. I'm going to go by myself. I
mean I do TikTok years ago about going to the
movies by myself because no one wanted to go with me.
And I love doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And you know what I've got to give you it
like you have a lot of confidence. I personally can't relate,
Like you would never catch me into movies by myself.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
A lot of people message saying that they do it
as well, and they loved going and it's a find
a way of peace, and they just switch off. I
turned my phone off and I just sat there and
watched it. Actually, sorry, I took the photos of the
the title and then turn my hand and then turned
I always do that. I have my phone ready and
then take the title and then I turned it off.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know what, one thing I do love to do
by myself, which I'm comfortable with is going for a
coffee by myself, or getting like a croissant at a
breakfast place, or getting getting breakfast by myself. I'm totally
comfortable with that. Like, I love that. I think it's
really good. In fact, you've been in my area recently
quite a lot working.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, I don't really talk about my work too.
So I've been working for my dad. So he obviously
has a company down in Melbourne which I used to
company Pool company that I used to work for, and
I was doing a bit of work while I was
up on the Gold Coast for UHIM here and there.
But he's had some people leave, some people retire, so
I've come down now to just be on the ground.
It's easy. We found it was easier that way to like,
(05:47):
you know, go see the clients, go see the boys
on site and all that sort of stuff. So I've
been down, yeah, helping him out a fair bit, so
it's good to be back out there.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
They aren't they expanding to the GC.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, yeah, there is talk of that, definitely looking into that.
I'm just you know, seeing sussing stuff out, getting contractors,
seeing building licenses and all that sort of stuff. So
we're looking into that all.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
No, it's not, it's really there's a big going on.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Love.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I do love it, but like it's you know, it's stressful.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, it's all jobs. Something he said to me the
other day. You have been saying that we haven't really
seen each other a lot outside of the podcast recently,
and you've mentioned that for a while, you've been trying
to get me to go to the movies and watch
(06:37):
horror movies with you, which I refuse to do because
I care about my mental health.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I've I've been easying up on it as you're pregnant
and you're like, I don't want to get you scared
and stressed out. But as soon as old Stan comes out,
he will take you to the movies and you can
watch one.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I think we need to pivot away from movies and
finds like a duel hobby that we like. That's not
scary movies, because I feel like scary movies is your thing.
We need something like that we can do together, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And well, I think there's a couple of things if
you're get into. But I've got one in mind which
I really love and I reckon you'll enjoy as well.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, I feel like I know what this is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Go ahead? What is it? Is it?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
The NRL?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yes? Do you hear me talking about it? It's the
other day, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, I mean that you always talk about the NRL.
But also I have a funny story about the NRL
because I got invited to the NRL. I think it
was last year with Michael, and because I'm so clueless
on all things sport, I read NRL and I thought
it was a basketball So I was like, Michael, I've
got us tickets to the basketball. We're going to the basketball. Yeah,
(07:44):
And literally on our way out of the door, I
showed Michael the tickets because I was like here, like,
you take the tickets, and he's like, Babe, this is
the NRL. Ah rugby, this is the rugby. We're going
to the rugby. And I was like, oh, okay, I've
never been to before, got it totally wrong. But actually
(08:06):
I had a really fun time there. Loved it. I
think the Storm was playing from memory. The Purple team yep,
loved the color, love the mascot as well. Actually love it.
There was a lot going on, like there was I
don't know if there was fireworks, but there was definitely
like flames fly, there was flay I think cheerleaders maybe.
(08:26):
So yeah, very entertaining and yeah I loved it so
I could I could get into the NRL with you,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
This was a lot easier than I thought to get
a hobby going together the NRL. I got more into
it living on the Gold Coast Queensland. Love it up there.
It's on the TV all the time. Yeah, yeah, it's
pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So who's your team?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I would say I grew up going for the North
Queensland Cowboys, but living on the Gold Coast, I have
to go for the Gold Coast Titans.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah. I feel like I'm more Storm, but I'm not
one hundred percent like I like the Mass like the Purple.
I mean obviously I saw them play they won, so
that was like a good star. So I don't personally
have a team. I'm veering towards the Storm because obviously
I saw them play. We like the color purple, liked
(09:15):
the mascot. But you know, I'm open. I'm open to
exploring new teams as well.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Sounds like you're on Love Island saying you're open to
other connections. But okay, you can't judge your team off
the color. I know that's ridiculous, right you said the mascot. Yeah,
I think that's a fair enough call. You can. So
let's have a look at some other mascots and see
if you prefer them over the Melbourne storm one. Okay,
so this is the Melbourne storm one.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Okay, See, that's like I'm veering towards him. I think
he's pretty cool Stormman, the Stormman. He kind of looks
like Superman. He's in a purple likera suit.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
He does look like a superhero, doesn't he?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
He does look like a superhero. Okay, what about he
also gave me a high five for the game, I
will say, so he's really for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Where about the South Sydney rabbit os.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, look, I'm not loving his fit. The color scheme
is more Christmas vires with the red and cream.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's a crush on Eastern Christmas, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It is? It is, which it would be good for
you because you love holidays and celebrating Eastern Christmas. But
I'm going to say pass.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What about Reefy the Cronulla sharks.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
If we're going off mascots, I'm going to go off
the shark.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Muscly guy. That top's looking a little tired on him.
The pants as well.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Sharks are you know the apex predator out there in
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
He needs to kind of like roof off his Okay,
that's a maybe.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Maybe, Reefy. We've got claws from the Penrith panthers.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Okay, he looks pretty cool. He's got some cool shades
going on. Muscly, he's got a typed up he looks
pretty harsh.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah. The Penrith panthers are are majestic animal, aren't they?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Panthers are up there.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, so we've nearly got the panthers. Okay, I'll give
you one more Anna, Okay, go the Sydney Roosters. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I like the colorway, I love Navy, but I mean
I did like the other guy, the panther.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Okay, So have you steered away from Melbourne Storm?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No, definitely not. I think like my top three would
have to be Melbourne Storm, the Panthers which is who Sydney,
the Penrith Panthers, and the Roosters. What one was that?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
The Sydney Roosters.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The Sydney Roosters. Okay, so they're my top three, but
don't hold me to it. I need to message to
the group chat get final approofals and who are you again?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm the Gold Coast Titans.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Gold Coast Titans, okay and bye.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well you might be picking between those three, but for
your son, Steve O, I'm gonna make him go for
the Gold Coast Titans. He's in new member of the
Gold Coach Titans cheer squad.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh my god, guys, stay tuned for this activity. Matt
and I are getting into the NRL. We'll go to
a game, let's do it. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, I've got a bone to pick with you. Okay, bone?
You know your Mother's Day? No, you're not your Mother's Day.
Your mother's baby shower, my mother, blessing, mother, blessing. See
you don't even know what it is. No wonder I
didn't give mother's blessing. It's an old girl event, though,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, I didn't get invited, you're saying.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I know, I'm Actually it looked cute from what I saw.
It looked sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So I felt like I was getting a lot of
pressure to do a baby shower. Obviously it's my first baby,
and I feel like, you know, there's just there's a
lot of stuff that babies need. I think is what
I've realized in the past, like five ish weeks when
I've started getting things ready, like even like, do you
know what a muslin rap is exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Can I take a guess? Yeah? Sure, it's when you
wrap them up in there in the blanket while they're
asleep so they can't roll anywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Do you think so? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I think so. Do you want silverettza they are?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They are a type of diver? Yeah? Is that a
full stuff? After? Wrong? Was right there?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Silverretta like these little silver things that you put on
your nipples when you're breastfeeding to like relax, like not
relax the nipples, to soothe the nipples from like nipple
trauma from breastfeeding.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, it's pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Apparently, white. Well, I don't know about that, hopefully not.
Maybe probably I think they have a sucking reflex to
drink the milk.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, go on.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Matt's like favorite for where's your bump?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I say, which is live? Guys at the moment.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yes, where's your quickly where's your bumpat is live? It's
going really well. I've had the most beautiful messages of
people saying, thank you so much for putting this together
because you know, it really just encompasses the experience of
either wanting kids or being pregnant or you know, trying
or whatever it is. So thank you for listening. Make
(14:14):
sure you listen. We have two episodes out right now,
three no, three three yeah, so give it a listen.
And I really appreciate all of the feedback. But no,
so yeah, I had a mother's blessing. I felt a
lot of pressure to do a baby shower, and I
don't know, I feel like I kind of left that
too late. Like I'm very pregnant. I'm heavily pregnant. It's
(14:37):
what people are calling me at the moment, which I'm
okay with because I am heavily pregnant and I just
really couldn't be bothered. I couldn't be bothered putting on
a party. I feel like, you know, I had a
thirtieth had an engagement party, had a wedding last year,
and I'm like, I was one year. Well, no, who wasn't, But.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I'm gone thirty we got married.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Thirty one?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You did yet? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Anyway, anyway, I've put on a lot of parties. I
couldn't be bothered with it. I've heard of this thing
called a mother blessing, and it's basically less about you know,
the gifts for the baby, and it's.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
More about the mother.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, it's about the mom. Like it's looking after the mom,
say you dug no. I think like I'm the first
person in my friendship group to have a baby, so
I really wanted to set the precedence of, like, you know,
be there for each other, like support each other, Please
support me. I don't know handle postpartum. And it was lovely,
(15:36):
Like everyone brought a bead and they made me like
this little bracelet with all of the beads from each
person which were all sentimental and I'm going to wear
it when I go to have the baby and just yeah,
and like everyone got a candle and everyone. We burned
it for the whole mother blessing, but when they know
that I'm heading to the hospital, They're going to start
(15:57):
burning the candle for me, and just like things like that.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Wow. Real it was quite.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Spiritual and just I felt very loved and kind of
looked after and supported and it was really nice. Like
I would recommend doing a mother's blessing to anyone who's
pregnant and who I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Know how I would have gone there. I would have
sort of been like, mind you, I wasn't even in
the state, so I wasn't even in the state. But
if I was there, I don't know. It seems real spiritual, real.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Well, we got like everyone got quite emotional at one point.
It sounds because like you start the mother blessing by
saying I'm the granddaughter of and then you say your grandparents' names,
and you say I am the daughter of my mum Emory,
and then I would say and I'm the mother of
and then I said the baby's name, like to be mother,
(16:45):
don't continue trying to get the name. But yeah, no,
it was lovely, highly recommend it, very I feel very supportive,
and yeah, it was just good vibes all around. Really Okay, Matt.
Today on the podcast, we are talking about how often
(17:05):
we should be chatting with our friends.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yes, well, how often do you think you should be
chatting to your friends?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, I mean you you're a caller, so you call
all the time, So I think this is not including.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, I think that's not I know a lot of
my mates have like said they screened my calls because
I'm a caller.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Really because I don't want to chat on the phone.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, they're not cause.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Some people don't like some people find it uncomfortable or
like it is time consuming to chat on the phone.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It is, but a lot of the best time to call,
I feel in a lot of when my mates actually
call me back is when they're driving. Yeah, true, I think.
And then I think that My mum actually pointed out
to me, she said, you only call me when you're driving,
but you don't realize what I'm doing on the other end,
like I'm not driving, do you know what I mean?
And I'm like, yeah, true, never thought of it like that?
Selfish a little bit like that, how often do you
(17:53):
reckon your message your friends?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Then I would say, like the group chat would be
like three times a week. Yeah, what do you think
about the group chat?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh, that's sporadic and could be here there, you could
be here, that could be on fire one time. It
could be like you know, it could be on fire
back NonStop messages, or it could be as dry as
a sahara. No one's chatting. It just really depends if
there's something we're trying to tee up.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, then there's a bit more.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, but I have I honestly, with the boys, I'll
have I have so many different separate group chats.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
We were like one person get's left.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Hand, yeah, or there's different like things. If one event
was organized and then that group chat keeps going for
a while and that fizzled out, do you know what
I mean? And then like something might spark another group
chat because you know, like say my bucks one that
flares up randomly when something happens that's relevant to that
nice yeah, and then it gets a little bit of
my managument it just fizzle out again.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
It's funny. I was watching an episode of Keeping Up
with the Kardashians and they have like lots of different
group chats. But they'll have like a not Kim group chat,
not Courtney group chat. Really, I guess if they want
a bitch about each other, they'll go to like the
you know not Kendle group chat and be like, can
you leave Kendle did this?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's a bit of effets. We have. Yeah, we have
like even family ones like mother, kids, dad and kids
and mum and like we have different ones. I'm actually
in one with my mates. Am part of a football team,
and it's called Carpool plus Matt, so I hear all.
I've muted it now, but it's all their car pool
things to go to because they play a country football team,
and they like talk about where they're meeting and times
(19:26):
and the game on the weekend and all this sort
of stuff and random football blows and I'm just like, yeah,
I can't, I've got to mute this. But they're my
best mates, so I stay in there. I haven't left.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I just think, like, you sound like you have way
too many group chats for me, Like that kind of
stresses me out. I have my friend group chat. I
have my friends plus the boys group chats like the
boyfriends and husbands or whatever, and then I have the
family group chat, and there's like a couple of variations,
but that's pretty much about it.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
We have a couple of where's your head at ones?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
We have where's your head out? Where's your bump hat
as well, but they're more like working group chat. Actually,
I have a few group chats now I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You have heaps I They go off here and there.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It just depends, really, I mean, look, there's lots of
different ways to communicate with your friends. Obviously, I feel
like FaceTime would be the closest thing to being in person. Yeah.
So there's FaceTime. Then there's calling, which you love to do.
There's texting, there's voice noting.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Are you a voice noter?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I am? Sometimes if there's too.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Much info that I can't my little thumbs can't be followed.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I how long is a voice note should be? I
saw this debate on TikTok. How long should a voice
note be to your friend?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
A minute?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I think longer than a minute? Yeah, stop, I'm not
listening to that, you know what I mean? I think,
what bang on a minute? Once it hits like a
minute oh two, I feel like that's when I'm rapping
my voice.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Get to the point.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Get to the point.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
If you've not got there yet you're know they're.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Going to get there because I remember a new girl
who would send my friend like literally like three minute
once and she'd sit there listening to it, and I'm like,
that's drain.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Like, yeah, you need to get to the point.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You get to the point by a minute. I think
that's the average length of a voice not to a
friend for.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Sure, and like you're not looking like if someone sending
a four minute voice note.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's a bit like do you read the text on
a voice not how it scribs out the text underneath.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Sometimes if I'm like, yeah, I'll read it in a
place where I can't listen out loud, but I'd prefer
to listen.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay, I prefer to read it or listen to it.
And it's so funny because it's how scrabbled up it is,
scrambled like scrambled in different words it.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Okay. Then there's sending videos as in like not sending
videos of yourself, like sending reels and reels and tiktoks, yes,
which you love to do. I love to do that too,
actually to connect with friends. Like even if I'm not
saying hi to you, I might send you a little
reel where I've been reminded of you and even like
a little connection.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Even before I literally was saw a real or TikTok,
just before I was a reel on Instagram and I
literally sent it to like three different group charts, six
different mates, and you just send it off to all
of them. Yeah, I'm massive at reels and tiktoks ending.
I'm a huge of that. It's probably I get stuck
in those TikTok holes and I send so many. Yeah,
it's probably the only communication I have with one of
(22:09):
my best mates, benji Obi, Me and him just literally
send reels and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You just never speak.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, finally enough, we're getting lunch after this downstairs.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But it's the one off.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Normally it's just TikTok sending and we've got like different
things that keep going different inside jokes and the tiktoks
and that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
So what you'll just see each other and be like,
so let's talk about all of the tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
At each other, just sending each other things.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
No chat, I don't have a profit.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
We'll chat normally.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
How often do we need to talk to our friends though?
Because like I know that we say you know, two
or three times a week roughly, kind of checking with
people see how they're going. As someone who's about to
go into having a baby postpartum, I'm hoping that my
friends check up on me and say how you're going?
But then am I going to be too busy and
exhausted to reply? I don't know. There's so many questions
(22:57):
for me personally.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I think seeing your friends should be really up to
each other. I think if it goes some friends though
you could not see for like a month, true, and
it's just like where you picked up. Like I went
to a thirtieth the other day for my mate. I
hadn't seen him in probably a year. I briefly caught
up with him at my wedding. You know how that
is catching up. That's like just brief at weddings. It's
(23:19):
not like a full thing. But I was like, I'd
never not seen him. Yeah, talk spoken normally.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Well. It is interesting that you say that. I have
a lot of friends who live overseas, one in la
one in London, and when they come back to Australia,
it's literally like nothing has changed. We just fall straight
back into being friends. But do I talk to them
as much as I would like to when they're over there,
Probably not, I think, with the time differences and things
(23:47):
like that. But there are some friends where you don't
need to talk to them every week or every month,
or you know, every maybe three months, and then you'll
talk to them and you'll have like a really nice chat,
or you might have a forty five minute for conversation
and just unpack both of your lives and kind of
be like, okay, we're good for another three months.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Three months literally the same. But like I said, it's
case by case. I don't think you can put an
actual amount of times on each I think you need to,
you know, maybe even talk to your friend and say, hey,
check in, are you okay? Do you want to talk more?
I'm here for you. Let's chat. Let's go get a drink,
let's get a coffee, Let's go for a drive, Let's
go to the beach, Let's go get some ice cream.
Let's just hang out. If you want to hang out,
let's chat. If you want to call, let's call facetiming.
(24:28):
If you want facetimeing, text me, I'm here for your.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
God, even the I just was talking, Oh my god,
that like really whigged me out. I felt like I
was going to labor or something. Oh my gosh, Okay,
I'm still recovering from that. But interestingly enough, many close
friendships actually thrive on more regular communication. For instance, there
(24:52):
was a study that found that fifty nine percent of
teenagers are in touch with their closest friends daily, which
to me is not surprising.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, when you're at school with them.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
So, yeah, they're seeing each other at school, they're communicating,
they have social media, smartphones. It's a little bit, you know,
it's easy.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's easier to communicate. Yeah, you have to call the
home phone.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, you have to tell phone, dial up, the internet.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Hey, we spend there.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yea to the parents alone. As opposed to for adult friendships,
especially those involving busy professionals or long distance friendships, weekly
or monthly interactions are actually sufficient, so you don't need
as much talking and interacting and reassurance. But again, it's
(25:43):
nice to always check in with your friends, making sure
that they're all good, even if it's just like a
little how you're going, what's happening in your world?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
What's your preferred I'm not gonna say method, what's your
preferred way of catching up with a friend.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Okay, I would say like booking in like a dinner
and like, obviously I can't drink at the moment, but
maybe having a couple of cocktails, having dinner kind of
unwinding on like what's happening in both of our lives,
or even if it's just like getting breakfast or a coffee,
breakfast and a walk. Yeah, like sometimes when we go
for a coffee rarely, but now really when we have
(26:21):
gone for a coffee before, it's actually quite nice and
you just like have a little chat, have a drink
and you know it's cheap, it's easy, and.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A walk afterwards. That's me and my mates when I
come down here, we go out for breakfast and go
for a walk around South Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, I have a question. Are your expectations the same
for your family and loved ones as it is with
your friends.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I don't really have any expectations for people to contact
me or talk to me same? Actually yeah, I mean
if I call you answer.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
What happens if one day everyone just goes radio silent on.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You, I'd have anxiety, a nervous break down, anxiety attacking
and be like, what what have I done? Yeah, love
it in my own head like wait, have I done something?
What's this? The rejection sensitive just more for the ADHD.
I'd be like, what's going on? What have I done?
Lose my mind?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Well, look, guys, this is your sign to check up
on your friends. Say hi, check in and make sure
they're all good, Send them some love, even send them
a TikTok or a reel and until next time, Bye
bye
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