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November 19, 2025 13 mins

Welcome to another iteration of Where's Your Headline At? On this episode, Matt has come across an article around chemistry fading within 18-months of a relationship, meanwhile Anna is trying to crack the case on whether millennials are binge drinkers or if Gen Z is just leading the way in health and lifestyle.. let us know your thoughts x

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Chemistry phades within eighteen months on average between couples.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Wow, that's kind of scary.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
That isn't a long time manner.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good morning everyone, welcome to where's your headliner? Out? How
are you this morning? That?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
I'm good? An, I am very good. I just have
an article in front of me. The source is the
Journal of Social and Personal Relationships.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
That kind of terrifies me. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I mean, you're past eighteen months. I'm well past eight
so I think you're okay.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, he's still got chemistry.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
We've still got chemistry. So chemistry phase within eighteen months
on average between couples. That spark feeling you feel in
the beginning. Science says it doesn't last forever. Studies show
romantic chemistry phades at about eighteen months, as dopamine and
adrenaline drop and the deeper forms of connection take over.
The real question is can you survive after the spark fades?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
What is chemistry?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I mean I feel like chemistry. How I see it
is like when you meet someone and you get like
those butterflies, you're like tummy. Like sometimes when you like
walk into a room and they're they're your tummy drops
or like your heart flutters and you're like, oh my god,
into them now.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I want to stress chemistry does not equal compatibility, true,
and chemistry can be mistaken for anxiety and an unsettling feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, and I think that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I think that's something that people need to in their psyche,
in their brain compartmentalize the difference between them. It took
me a long time to do that, Yeah, and I
think that that is something that will show growth in
you and understand relationships a bit better. Yeah, because I
feel like I was a very very one that would
mix up those two feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah. I don't think I would ever date someone who
when I like first meet them, I didn't get that
like excitable feeling though, of course, like before you know
someone before Like I think what you're talking about is
like you know, you've known someone for like maybe let's
say you've got on five dates and there's been some
red flags and like you're getting a bit of exciting

(02:14):
and then you're still getting the butterflies and you're getting
they're all getting mixed up, right, yes, yes, yeah, but
whereas like when I first meet someone, I want to
get that like excitable feeling because like I don't know.
I know people say, like, you know, give someone a chance,
like blah blah blah. But for me, if it's not
instantly there, if I don't know straight away, it hasn't

(02:36):
ever grown.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Every instant chemistry connection I've ever had has I think
gone and I've got it mixed up and it's been
the other feeling. Yeah, but I'm looking for someone.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's specific type of data like you.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Here we go, goy, No, it's interestive. Yeah, I know
where you're going with this.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm not going to go any further with this. I'm
just saying I don't know if like are you not talking?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, I know what you're saying. I get those and
when I see those feelings and those things pop up,
I like a bull run No.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
But like, okay, let's let's go back to the headline,
because the headline is basically saying that after.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Eighteen months eighteen months, which essentially is a year and
a half.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah we're good at maths. Yeah, after a year and
a half, like the chemistry is going to fade and look,
ninety nine percent of the relationships that you're going to
be in are going to fail. So it's no surprise
that like after a year and a half of like
dating someone, you're a bit like, I'm not really sure
about you or maybe like the sex, it's a bit
of like more of an effort or I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
A year and a half isn't a long time in forever, yeap,
in the grand scheme of things, it's not a long time,
but it can be a long time if it's not
with the right person.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, it's a lot of your time that you're giving
to someone and you're like coupling up with them, and
like being in a couple with someone is a big commitment.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
And if you're living with them, because let's be realistic,
you move in with someone what these days circumstantial you know,
Lisa's and yeah, Lisa's and stuff happens. So that's a
year of living with someone, right, do you know what
I mean? Potentially? Right, And that is a that's quite
a long time to be like, I'm not in the

(04:23):
grand scheme, and I'll say it's not forever, like that's
it's not a long time, but when it's the wrong person,
that is a long time.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah. Look, I think that they say that like relationships
last when you marry your best friend, right, because you're
best friends with someone, so like, yes, the chemistry isn't
like sparks for fireworks flying every five seconds, but you're
like hanging out with your best friend. You're like, oh,
what show should we watch? Oh we both like this

(04:50):
same show or you don't like the same show, but
you like to go play tennis on the weekend together,
and like you bond over that. And I feel like
that's what you need to form after that year and
a half. Like the sparks keep you alive until that
year and half, but by that year and a half,
you're best friends with that person. They're your confident, they're
your safe space there, And I think that's how relationships

(05:14):
continue and that's why people have long term relationships. Otherwise
we'd all just have year and a half relationships and
nothing would go past that. It would be a use
by day.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Two of my actual relationships only lasted eighteen months. Really,
that's why I found this article fascinating.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
That is so interesting. Wow. So yeah, so it's like,
obviously you were with the wrong person, but the spark
was so strong throughout that I guess year and a
half that it kept kept it going both.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
There yeah, and also chaos does an equal chemistry. Don't
get it mixed.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Up now with the words.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I've lived, I've seen things. I've seen them.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Okay. My headline of the day comes from Intels. It
says drinking hits record low. Only fifty four percent of
adults consume alcohol, lowest since first tracked in nineteen thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I've seen a lot of people talk about this. I've
seen I saw actually real of the Drive Home show
on Nova with Blackers and that talking about it, and
they said they're over it as well. What happened to
people having fun going out and drinking? Like, how's the
culture changed so much?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm going to read this article. It says millennials and
Gen zs are leading the change, with many opting for
non alcoholic alternatives or cutting back entirely due to mental
health and fitness goals. Industry experts say the shift is
already reshaping nightlife culture and forcing beverage companies to adapt
to a new era of modern of moderation. It is

(06:50):
really interesting and for the longest time on this podcast
we've talked about how we're over drinking and dada da
and like, I don't really drink anymore. I'm breastfeeding at
the moment. But at the Halloween party that we both
went to, I accidentally had too much to drink. I
did it was a double one accidentally spiked me with
four double rucks, three double blacks, and I genuinely no,

(07:17):
I genuinely thought they were singles. I did know they
were double blacks, but I forgot anyway, got way too drunk.
It was a shitty feeling. I hated the feeling. Hate it,
and like, yeah, there is nothing worse than anxiety, feeling
bad in the morning, Like it's just it's not it.
It just doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I do think the culture. We've said this for ages
on the podcast, the culture has definitely changed about drinking.
My attitude towards that has changed dramatically. I think that,
like a lot of people have, I think that there
is a lot more stuff out there to do than
going out and getting pissed, even though it is so
much fun with your mates. Don't get me wrong, Yeah
I love doing it, but there is a lot more
to do out there than that.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I did see this guy. It was a video that
I was watching recently, and he tracks his health like
hardcore and he gave up drinking for a year, and
he said his health actually decreased from giving up drinking,
and they were kind of like looking into why his
health had decreased, and it was because he felt like

(08:15):
he wasn't as social when he wasn't drinking, Like he
kind of stayed home more. He didn't really feel like
comfortable like going out with people who were drinking, so
he kind of missed out on things. And so therefore,
because he wasn't as social, his health actually declined. His
mental health because he wasn't making because connections with people
and like bonding with people around you and like working

(08:38):
on your friendships is great for your health.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Two funny things you said on that is I find
that fascinating, and I agree. I can't be sober around
drunk or intoxicated people. I can't do it. Yeah, I can't.
I just genuinely can't. It actually is probably one of
my pet peeves. Yeah, I don't know why. I just
I don't know. I respect people that can do it.
I can't. It's so irritable around him. I don't know why.

(09:03):
And the second thing was, I saw a doctor a
couple of weeks ago, and you don't have to fill
in the forms. And it's like do you drink? How
many do you drink when you drink? And I just
wrote binge.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Oh my, he laughed.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
He's like, I'm actually saying, no one ever feel that
out that way. How many drinks do you drink? And
I said binge?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I'm a binge binge.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I am like if I don't very rarely will crack
a can or have a glass do you know what
I mean? Just on a week night. Ever, I've never
done that.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Do you know? The scary thing about you is like
you look very I mean there's been times where I've
seen you look really really drunk, but like, oh yeah,
I think that Like you were telling me once that
you like your memory was like a little fuzzy and
you looked completely sober, like normal, like you were just normal.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
And from so many yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
The fact that his memory is fuzzy and you look
to me like completely normal and like that scary.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I've heard that from so many people. I was like,
I don't remember what happened last night, and like, dude,
you're fine, you were sober, And I was like, fuck.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
That's scary because then no one can help you. Yeah,
you come across so sober, like there wasn't one thing
that you did, like you weren't like swaying.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I've heard that from a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
The way you were talking was exactly how you would
talk to me now. But I was hammered, so that
that means like you could be hammered right now and
I would have no functioning. But like, but that is
what it's like. That's I was like, that is crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, No, you're not the first person to say that.
A lot of people say a lot of my mates
and other people say that. But then I have gotten
when I've been really messed up though, and you can tell.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, there's been Like there's one time I can remember,
which is probably your Halloween party at Agar Street where
you were.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Like not your thirtieth yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
But like but I mean we were all at the
club then, so you know where I woke up with
a park Yeah. Like, well, this isn't a segment where
we're like promoting our caulduring. I feel like we've like
this has gone the wrong way. Like the fact the
gen Z is like leading the charge on like drinking
lives I think is so amazing. We grew up in
a culture where binge drinking was the norm, and like

(11:08):
we've tried to like fight against it, and I feel
like I've done a pretty good job. I think we
both have we don't but here and there, yes, like.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
But it is fun, isn't it? Though?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's fun? But like I have, there's no place in
my life to be hung over with a baby.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
It's it's going to happen. I don't know how people
do it.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I just won't, I think, do you know what, Michael?
I feel like Michael has been the best influence with
like drinking because I used to be like a bit
of a party gal girl, and I feel like Michael,
He's like like literally, like being drunk is not actually fun.
It's been Tipsy is fun, and once you get tipsy,

(11:45):
it's like stopped. Charlie's the funnest thing ever.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Charlie Sheen said, the first hour drinking is.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
The best, and then it's downhill.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
It's downhill from that totally. The first hour is the
best and then after that and we all I've said it,
nothing good happens after two am. Yeah, And I understand
by that.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
That tipsy feeling you chase and try to chase the
feelings the dragon you like like a bit messy.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
It doesn't. Yeah, the first hour of drinking is the best,
and then after that it's just all downhill.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I think having a like having a mental limit in
your head of like I'm only going to have X
amount of drinks tonight is really like I also in
my experience, like I know that, Like you're obviously like
in your I'm not gonna say i's gonna say party
for you. You're not your party. What you're at you
feel like more like getting back into like single life,

(12:34):
just socializing, socializing.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
But you know you don't have to do that. We might.
I've been on a couple of walks with my mates,
a couple of like lunches, breckys, there's all different sort
of things. And that's what the article is saying that
the new generation of adults is seeing that there's other
things to do then just get pissed at the local pub.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Hopefully Swede will be like, I don't even want to
ever have a drink, and I'll.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Be like, yes, that might. If it's going the way
it's going, that might be the culture.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
That would be great. I think that would be incredible. Okay, guys,
that's all we have time for. Send us headlines that
you want us to chat about on the podcast that
brings a headline. I bring a headline, and we could
bring another one from everybody else. We could bring another
one if you guys have one that you'd like us
to touch on. Until next time, Okay,
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