July 1, 2025 • 26 mins
Welcome back to our final WYHA hotline! In preparation for Anna's return, we're dropping the best and most explosive hotline we have ever received involving Mum & son-in-law.. this is one of the craziest episodes we've ever released and we had to finish on this one! Enjoy and see you next episode x
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, I am currently on maternity leave, so we
thought that we would bring back one of our most
explosive hotline episodes to finish off our run of hotlines.
This one honestly blew my mind and I thought about
this four months after and this episode actually started an
(00:23):
all out war in our comment section, with the mum
in question actually commenting on our socials.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It got so wild. But listen to this one. We
hope you.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Enjoy it and I will see you back next week.
Welcome back to the Where's Your Head At? Hotline, our
new weekly show where we catch up with each other
and connect with you all via our hotline voicemail.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm Anna and I'm Matt. Let's jump in goods morning.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Hello Anna, how are you going today?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm good? How are you going?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm good? I am I'm just you know, I've been
going on here everywhere and saying how I'm stop drinking,
but fuck me, it gets hard. How good was the
weather on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The weather was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We've had a pretty shit summer in Melbourne, Australia, but
this weekend we were blessed with the sun finally, and
I did peak that you were out on the beers.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So my mate, one of my best mates, Nick, got
his names on me, love him to bits. What do
you mean I've got Nick back on my foot?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You said, you've got your name tattoo.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
He's one of my best mates, love him to bits,
used to live with him. It was his birthday, so
he wanted to talk to go out. I was a
bit headed because you know, I'm not trying to drink
his march.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And your friends are party boy.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It was like, when I send that out with the boys,
I'm like, oh, this is going to go one of
two ways. I could be getting a mercy call the
next day, being like I'm in a dark place.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I was, so i'll tell you what I got. Sunday
I was pretty good. But we went out went to
this new place forgive me, I don't know its name.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I asked you where it was because it looked stunning.
It was like on the water on.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The docklands, literally in that bit there where your boat
was for your birthday. It's acterually in there. It's like
a floating like what would you call one of them?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, like a floating kind of like bar oh.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah. It was unbelievable. Sun was down the vibes are up,
so it was hard for me.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Sun was up, the vibes were up.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, it was hard for me not to It was
hard for me not to drink, so I got stuck in.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It looked like perfection. I asked you what it was.
You said it was like a t et or something something.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Anyway, Yeah, I figure I don't know how to pronounce it,
so I was probably not going to touch on its name.
But it had a bit of fun there. Then woke
up Sunday, went to the Saint Kildo Markets. Have you
been there?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Love the sat Kilda Market.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
What a fun thing to do on a Sunday, very wholesome.
Actually got some henna tattoos done there fifty dollars not cheap.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But did you know that henna tattoos?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Actually it's obviously like an Indian tradition and they do
it like mainly when people get married. And apparently the
reason why they do it is because it's actually really calming.
Really so like they had this when I went to
this Saint Kildo market a few months ago.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
The lady was like telling me, She's like, oh, it's very.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Soothing, it's calming, it's good for the nervous system, and
I was like, sign me, I'll say no more.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Don't stop stop covering me from.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Head to tie. I don't know. I think they have
some like essential oils in there.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think the ingredients are very like soothing, and apparently
that's why they give it to the brides because it
like relaxes them on their wedding day, because apparently your
wedding day is meant to be super stressful, and I
think Indian weddings go through multiple days.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I was gonna say, Matte, maybe.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You can well because my story I'm going to tell
you from the weekend is very stressful.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Really went from.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
The same Kildon Markets and we're going to go watch
a movie. So I went to the shop. She likes
to collect the hard tickets of every movie she goes to.
She's got like a stack of them. So I went
to buy and I bought them for the screening at
whatever time. It was like six point thirty. I did
this during the day, so the car parks full. I
went to a bit of a shop, got some groceries,
got everything. I've been using one of my dad's utes
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from the office, so you know, save fuel, save money
on that save money on my.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Cut very expensive at the moment, I've gotten.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
To add that my car sitting on the driveway with
a flat tire haven't changed yet or two ago. I
just haven't been bothered to change it because I've got
this car. So I'm driving this one around now, so
essentially you don't want to tie. I get so flat
that it almost like folds on itself. It's gotten to
that point and every day I walk past, I'm just
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like Nat today. So I've been driving that around. But
the key is separate from the central locking, so they're
on a key. They're both different. So when I told
my family and everyone this, they said, how'd you get
into the car? And I said, because the central locking
is on a different switch to the actual key that
you put in the ignition, like an old school U,
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one of the old school utes that we have. So
I was like, all right. So I got in the
car after doing my shopping, central lock sat down. I
was looking through my keys and the car key wasn't
on there. Fuck, I've had a huge night. I have
to get home. I just want to get home, shower,
I just want to like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So this is your Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, this is my Sunday wholesome morning. And I've driven
back on to the shops gone to and I was like,
oh my god. I was like, all right, so I've gone,
all right, I need to retrace all my steps. So
and have you ever tried to retrace your steps after
like you've done a full shop, like gone grocery shopping,
gone shopping, go on everything.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Never, thankfully, Well it's fucked, I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So I'm looking on the ground. If anyone saw you
walking around, they would have been like, fuck, this guy's
in some state. Because I was looking around getting all frantic.
I went to colds to my grocery shop, and I
was like, all right, where did I start? Where did
I go? And I was like you know what, Actually,
I was like, that's going to be so dumb doing that.
I'm gonna go aisle by aisle and see if I
see it. So I've done the whole shop and then
I've come to the conclusion. Oh and as I was
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walking out, one of my ex's mum says a lope
to me, because she going on the one from when
I was like sixteen eighteen. But I'm still unfriendly turned
to her. So we're going day on the escalator and
she wanted to have a chat and I'm like, no, no,
I need to find this today. Dressing out, got to
the car and I was like got back to my
car and I was like, you know what. I was like,
I don't know where it is. I'm gonna have to
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call like carkid people who come cut a new key
for me. Accepted defeat, And as I hopped in the
car to call him, I looked on the ground where
my feet were and it was sitting there. So so
after all that, it was literally just sitting in the
car and I was like, fuck me. I was like,
this is this is this is the pit summed up
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my day. So then I went home, I went to bed,
had a knaf and woke up and went watched Violent Nights.
So if anyone's seen Violent Night, I recommend watching it.
If you currently in the movie, yeah, currently movies. If
you're into Christmas movies and violence, it's a good movie.
They go together.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We look, I don't think it's going to be on
my list, but I mean each to their own.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What did you get up to on the weekend? Was yours?
As less frantic as much as Sunday was. Did you
have a cheer one?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, look, on Friday I did something very exciting, which
you know, I went wedding dress shopping. So basically, I'm
working with a designer to make my wedding dress. So
I had my first meeting with him on Friday. So
I kind of sat down, I told him about what
style of wedding I'm going to have. I kind of
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showed him some picks from my Pinterest board that I've
been screenshotting and saving, and I guess we're going to
create a wedding dress together.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
In my ignorance, Yeah, so your weddings I was seeing
twenty twenty four, that's what you're aiming for. Yeah, you
said a bit early to doing the dress.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, if you're getting a dress made, you need a
year really, Yeah, so you need a full year to
kind of plan. And obviously I'm going to go back
and try on a few wedding dresses to see what
shape I like. Because obviously, like I could, like I
don't know a specific wedding dress, but it might not
look good on me.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So wouldn't it go out of fashion in a year
or something like? It might not be fashionable, might not
be well.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I mean, wedding dresses, you can, they're quite classic and
like timeless pieces.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
But yeah, I have to start pre planning this stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Sorry. Like I said, part of the ignorance, I don't
know what goes into planning a wedding dress.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I think because you're a boy as well, like boys
aren't really that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Interested in weddings, Like I mean, I've never planned a
wedding before. But Michael seems to be just kind of like, yeah,
like I'm happy if you're happy kind of vibe. And
I feel like that's kind of something that I hear
a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Hello, you've reached.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Anna, and that we can't get to the phone right now,
but please leave us a message on our hot line
after the beep. Okay, so this week we are going
to be listening to a voice mail. This is a
random voicemail that we've got on our hotline from a
girl called Maddie. Now I have listened to this, and
our producer Alex has listened to this, and this is
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the wildest voicemail we have ever received.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So Matt, you are like very excited to hear this.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I know I am. Yeah, you guys have been talking
about this affair bead I said, I'll wait till the
actual episode to have a listen.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I had to hear it. I was like, I need
to know what this is about.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And then I spoke to our producer Alex and we
were like, we have to get her on because we
just have so many questions for us.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So we're going to listen to the voicemail, we're going to.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
React to it, and then we're actually going to talk
to Maddie. She's coming on the hot line and we're
gonna ask all the questions.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
She should know this.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I'm stressed. I'm stressed for Maddie. I'm like secondhand angry
for her. So I think we should listen.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Hi, Matt Nana.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
My name's Maddie and this is my crazy life story.
So six years ago, I was eighteen and I met
this guy. He was twenty seven, so a little bit
of an age gap, but we fell in love instantly.
Everything moved really quickly. We got pregnant with our first
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daughter three months in fast forward.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
A year after that.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
We got married and got pregnant with our second daughter,
and then a few months after that we got pregnant
with our third daughter. And then late last year, November
twenty twenty one, I had our third daughter and we'd
been together for five years. Our daughter was three weeks old.
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We just moved into a house together, a new house together,
and I got a message from one of my girlfriends
saying that she had found out my husband had been
cheating on me with my mum. That they had been
having an affair since before our second daughter was born,
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and it continued until halfway through my pregnancy with.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
My third daughter, so i'd been going on for about
a year and a half.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
As you can believe, that was shocked me. I was
obviously just had a newborn baby. I had a three
year old and a one year old. I was so confused, shocked,
every emotion under the sun. This is obviously a short story,
but a few days later the truth did come out
(11:40):
and my husband ended up admitting it.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Ex husband.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
And I haven't had communication with my mom since then.
We had one phone call where she admitted it, but
never apologized.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And now fast forward a year, a single mom to
three little babies, and it's honestly been the biggest blessing
in my life. I've met an amazing new guy who's
just taken on the role of a father figure to
my girls, like amazingly. But yeah, that's my crazy story,
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and no one ever believes me when I tell them,
so it's sort of like an icebreaker conversation starter that
me and my sister like to laugh about now that obviously,
looking back, it's very traumatizing.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
So, yeah, that's my crazy story.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So we'll get Maddie on because I've got a thousand questions.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Welln't that the wildest story you've ever heard in your
whole life?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Well, Anna, what would you do if you found out Anne,
Marie and Michael.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Were I would fucking order a hit on both of them.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
That would be I'm pissed off from Maddie, Like what
the fuck?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I just have so many questions, like how did they
first meet the mom and the they're like.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, probably because she was, Like this is what.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Was their sexual chemistry? You're reackon from the start.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That is just so nuts, Like who what type of
mother is hooking up with their daughter's.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Husband when they have three kids? So like the kids's
grandma is hooking up with the dad. It's just not right,
that's fucked up.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I want to speak to her and find out.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well we are, we're about to speak to her, but like, fuck,
I'm so glad number one that it's been a happy
ending for her, because geez, that is hard to get over,
and like she's probably overcome it because she has three
daughters that she has to worry about.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Think about it. You meant to trust your husband and
your mom more than anyone, and then they've both done
the dirty on you, so you've had to see those
both those relationships end at once, and they've both like
taken your trust away from you. So like I would
find it really hard to trust anyone after that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I mean, I find it hard to trust anyone on
a good day, never mind after that, I'd.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Be like, I don't even bother try actually fucked over
by both your mum and your husband.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Like she must have been like leaving her kids with
the grandma and her husband.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They must have been like together.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Or even worse, the kids are left with her and
then the husband's going to the mum's house.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's just our poor Maddie. We have to talk to her.
Shall we get her on the phone.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, let's do it. Hey Maddie, Hi, Hey Maddie. Welcome
to the show. Thank you for jumping on and explaining
the rest of this wild story that we just listened to.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
You're welcome. Pretty crazy, very crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
This is the craziest hotline story we've ever received, and
we are just full of so many questions. Firstly, we
want to say sorry that you've had to go through
such a wild, wild experience that's like crazy.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah, it's pretty fuck up, but it's a year on now,
so I feel like it's easy to talk about and
I'm doing so well.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So yeah, it's clear that you've found another guy and
he's taken on the role as the father and doing well.
That's good to hear.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, he's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
We're so glad that there is a happy ending out
of all of this for you, and we're really glad
that you met him. But can you just take us
back to that day when your friend called you and
you found out that your mom and your husband were
having an affair behind your back.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yeah, So we just moved into a new house. So
I just had our third daughter, So she was two
weeks old, and I got a message from my friend
saying can you come to my house? And I was
like no, Like, I've got three little kids, Like it's
not that easy to just pack up the car and
bring them with me, yea, So like just call me,
and she's like, I really need to tell you. Like
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it went back and forth a little bit, so it's
like just call me, like I'll go to the bathroom.
And I sort of had like a gut feeling, like
my heart just sank. And then she said to me
that she had all these screenshots of him messaging her
mom and explaining the whole affair to her mom what
they'd been doing.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
He was sending to your friend's mum.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, so he had been messaging my friend's mum I
think maybe trying to persuade her to have an affair
with him, and then going into the details with her
about where they would do it, what had been going on,
And she had secretly been taking photos of all these
messages and snapchat and it had been going on for
quite a few months before I knew. So then, yeah,
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she showed me all of that everything. Her mum came
to me and explained everything, And of course I went
to my partner at the time and said, like, what
is this and he was like, I don't know, It's
not me blah. Blah blah, And of course I knew
it was him. His name was written all over it,
it was his snapchat everything. So yeah, that's pretty much
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I found out. And then it was just turmoil from there.
I rang my dad because my mom and dad were
still together. They still are together actually, and I had said,
I'm coming over. I've got the three kids, Like obviously,
I was really upset. Showed him everything. He tried to
wring my mum and she wouldn't ant. She finally answered
and he had said, look, I've found out this. You
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need to come home. And she took off and we
didn't speak to her for two days, and then she
eventually came back. I had one phone call with her,
a big argument, and that was kid. I haven't spoken
to her or seen her since, and that was a
year ago. And yeah, that's sort of the gist of
the story.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh my god, were you in disbelief hearing this like
that just seems like the craziest, most absurd story ever.
Are we kind of like, yeah, my mum has this
in her.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, I sort of now looking back and speaking to
my dad a lot, my mum had had affairs when
we were kids, or my dad so I should have,
in hindsight maybe expected it from her. But in the
months leading up to it, like as sick as it
like it feels to say this, I sort of had
a gut feeling like I knew something was going on.
There was just times when they would be together and
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no one else was there, and like they would do
like changeover from looking after my kids when I was working,
And yet there was sort of, I don't know, just
a gut feeling that I knew something was going on.
But obviously it sounds so fucked to even think that,
So I just thought I was crazy and like a
super jealous like wife. But yeah, my gut like knew
the whole time.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Fuck a woman's intuition.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
We always say it, but you always have to listen
to it, because if something's like telling you something's wrong,
it's normally right.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Just how did they Do you know any details of
how it started? When?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, well, my husband pretty much told me all of
it and said that it sort of just started with
flirting and they would snutchat and things like that, and
then one day they kissed, and then the next time
they saw each other, like they would do changeover for
looking after my kids when my husband would leave for
work and I was working the whole day, so they
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would like had sex once and then it just sort
of continued and they would speak about it, and because
it happened like every couple of weeks or every month
or so, and there was one time that I thought
I'd caught them. I got home. I was here at
my parents' house, and my mum walked in the door
from work, and then my husband came in like a
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minute later, and they didn't say hello to each other,
which is really strange. Normally, when they see each other,
like for the first time, we would all say hello.
So that was sort of like alarm bells. And my
gut was already like telling me something was going on.
And then we got home and our bedroom blinds were
shot and I always leave them open, like I used
to always have to my husband about shutting the blinds
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like when it's hot, and they were down, and that
was just like my gut was just feeling terrible, like
I knew something was going on. So then I confronted
him about it, and I actually messaged my mom saying,
did you come to my house after work? And she said, yeah,
I did. But then I like knew you guys weren't there.
So I left and then she had snapchatted my husband
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and I had his phone, and she said, Maddie just
asked me if I went to your house, if she
asked you anything, tell her this is what happened. Oh
so so fuck your friend even told you.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
So this was July last year. So I just fallen
pregnant with my third daughter. And then that came out
and my husband said to me that they just kissed,
like eventually i'd gotten out, but I'm like, I know
something's going on. You need to tell me. And he said,
we just kissed and that was that. And then so
I knew about that, and I was like ten weeks pregnant,
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and obviously I was like trying to I don't know.
I look back and think, why did I try and
work it out? But I was trying to work it
out for the sake of the kids. So I was like,
maybe it just was a mistake. They were both reassuring
me that it was nothing. It was a tiny peck,
that was all that happened. Yeah, and then I didn't
find out the whole story till yees six months later.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh my god, are you poor thing? That is just
I just can't even imagine.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
How do you trust your current partner after going through
that level of deceit from them?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I did say, that's yeah, your mom and your husband
and your husband you mean to put a lot of
trust in and invest in and they do you dirty, Like,
how can you come back and trust anyone after that?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, I feel like I had those worries a lot,
But I don't know if it's just because the guy
that I'm with is like so great. But I honestly
thought I would be a lot worse than what I am,
but he is just like we have really great communication,
so that I think that's the main thing. Like I
don't feel like he's hiding anything from me. We talk
about everything, and just from the get go I've got
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like a complete different vibe of him than what I
got off my husband.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Oh my god, I'm so happy for you far out.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So you said your dad and your mom are still together.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, so they're still together. Sorry, my daughter's staying on
the door in that my grandson. Yeah, they're still together.
So that's obviously caused a lot of dramas between my
dad and I because I just can't believe he would
stay with her, But I've voiced all this to him,
and at the end of the day, like it's his decision.
He has to live with her all the time, and
as long as it doesn't come between our relationship or
he's trying to force me to see her or anything
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like that, Like I just try to keep it cool.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Oh my god, So you've not seen your mom since
this happened, but your dad is very much still in
your life, is that correct?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yeah? Yeah, I see him all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And then what about your ex husband? How often, if
at all?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
He sees our kids every second weekend, so normally I'll
see him at like changeovers for that. And obviously in
the beginning it was really hard, like I hated him
for a long time, but now I've sort of just
let it go and just trying to copare and as
well as we can for the sake of our girls,
because it does make such a difference to their behavior
and all those sorts of things if we are getting along.
(22:49):
So yeah, we even just had our daughter's youngest son's
first birthday, which we haven't been together her whole life
pretty much, and he came for the party. His family
came for the party, so yeah, yeah, we're really trying
hard to co parent together and put my own feelings
aside and put the girls first.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I'm assuming your mum wasn't at that party.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Definitely not.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Maddie.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
You are a stronger person than I am, Like I
am looking up to you so much right now for
your strength for your kids, because like I just I
don't know if I would have it in.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Me to do that. No, I almost I can't wrap
my head around it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Do you think you'll tell your daughters what's happened when
they grow up?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I do think about this a lot because even now,
my oldest daughter, she's only four, but we had a
massive like my mum was a massive part of our lives.
We would see her every day and especially my girls' lives.
So it has been the adjustment to especially my oldest
like not seeing her and she does ask questions like
where's Nana and whatever, and I just try to play
(23:50):
it off. But I think it will come a time
when they ask me about it, because they're not a
part of her life, but they see my dad, and
I think I'm just gonna have to be honest with them,
And you know, their dad made a massive mistake. I
don't really want to turn them on their dad, but
when they're old enough, that'll be up to them to
make that decision, and he'll have a lot of explaining
to do to them.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah fuck yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Is he Do you know about he's dating anyone? Now?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I haven't really heard. He tells me a few like
you're seeing girls or whatever, but then tries to flirt
with me when I see him, So I don't really know.
But I don't feel jealous or anything like that, like
I feel sorry for whoever's going to be with him.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Well, he said he was hitting on your friend's mum
as well. Does he have like a fetish for mums
or something?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I think so he must have like a mum fetish
because they're all like fifty years old and he's thirty
and I'm a lot younger than him, So I don't know.
He must have a thing for older women. I think
he just has a lot of insecurities and needs to
be wanted and needs attention all the time. So obviously
that and the thrill of doing it behind everyone's back
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was enough for them. Your poor dad, Yeah, he is
the best, that's honestly why. I just don't know why
he puts up with it because he could find like
the most amazing woman and he's like such a beautiful person.
But I don't know that's up to him.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Has your mom tried to reach out to you?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Obviously you had that one call, But has she tried
to like message you or call you at all?
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Yeah, she messaged me a lot in the beginning before
I had blocked her, and then after we had our
big fight. I had blocked her because it was just
like too much. I was trying to deal with the
kids and husband's side of it. I felt like her
side of it just needs to take a step back.
And obviously having a newborn baby, like my head was
consumed with that. So yeah, she hadn't contacted me because
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I had blocked her. But then she'll randomly like photos
that I've been tagged in on Instagram or like it
was my birthday a few weeks ago and she sent
me a bunch of flowers just saying I miss you
and I love you.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Like, yeah, ever accept her apology and rekindle something or
you think that's just dead in the water.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, I think think it's gone. Like obviously, some days
I miss having my mum and we were so close,
like it would just be nice to have her, But
it's not the same, Like once you do that, I
could never do that to my kids, So I don't
know how you could do that to your daughter. So
I don't think it'll ever come back.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's just a whole new level of low. It's just
like the disrespect, Like, how can you come back from that?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It's yeah, one hundred.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, Maddie, thank you so much for sending us this voicemail.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
We really appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You're so sorry you've been through this traumatic event, and
thank you for being so open as to share only
a year later. Again, thank you so much, and thanks
for being on our hotline, no worries, Thanks for having
you guys,
Hey guys, I am currently on maternity leave, so we
thought that we would bring back one of our most
explosive hotline episodes to finish off our run of hotlines.
This one honestly blew my mind and I thought about
this four months after and this episode actually started an
(00:23):
all out war in our comment section, with the mum
in question actually commenting on our socials.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It got so wild. But listen to this one. We
hope you.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Enjoy it and I will see you back next week.
Welcome back to the Where's Your Head At? Hotline, our
new weekly show where we catch up with each other
and connect with you all via our hotline voicemail.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm Anna and I'm Matt. Let's jump in goods morning.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Hello Anna, how are you going today?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm good? How are you going?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm good? I am I'm just you know, I've been
going on here everywhere and saying how I'm stop drinking,
but fuck me, it gets hard. How good was the
weather on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The weather was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We've had a pretty shit summer in Melbourne, Australia, but
this weekend we were blessed with the sun finally, and
I did peak that you were out on the beers.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So my mate, one of my best mates, Nick, got
his names on me, love him to bits. What do
you mean I've got Nick back on my foot?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You said, you've got your name tattoo.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
He's one of my best mates, love him to bits,
used to live with him. It was his birthday, so
he wanted to talk to go out. I was a
bit headed because you know, I'm not trying to drink
his march.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And your friends are party boy.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It was like, when I send that out with the boys,
I'm like, oh, this is going to go one of
two ways. I could be getting a mercy call the
next day, being like I'm in a dark place.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I was, so i'll tell you what I got. Sunday
I was pretty good. But we went out went to
this new place forgive me, I don't know its name.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I asked you where it was because it looked stunning.
It was like on the water on.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The docklands, literally in that bit there where your boat
was for your birthday. It's acterually in there. It's like
a floating like what would you call one of them?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, like a floating kind of like bar oh.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah. It was unbelievable. Sun was down the vibes are up,
so it was hard for me.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Sun was up, the vibes were up.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, it was hard for me not to It was
hard for me not to drink, so I got stuck in.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It looked like perfection. I asked you what it was.
You said it was like a t et or something something.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Anyway, Yeah, I figure I don't know how to pronounce it,
so I was probably not going to touch on its name.
But it had a bit of fun there. Then woke
up Sunday, went to the Saint Kildo Markets. Have you
been there?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Love the sat Kilda Market.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
What a fun thing to do on a Sunday, very wholesome.
Actually got some henna tattoos done there fifty dollars not cheap.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But did you know that henna tattoos?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Actually it's obviously like an Indian tradition and they do
it like mainly when people get married. And apparently the
reason why they do it is because it's actually really calming.
Really so like they had this when I went to
this Saint Kildo market a few months ago.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
The lady was like telling me, She's like, oh, it's very.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Soothing, it's calming, it's good for the nervous system, and
I was like, sign me, I'll say no more.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Don't stop stop covering me from.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Head to tie. I don't know. I think they have
some like essential oils in there.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think the ingredients are very like soothing, and apparently
that's why they give it to the brides because it
like relaxes them on their wedding day, because apparently your
wedding day is meant to be super stressful, and I
think Indian weddings go through multiple days.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So I was gonna say, Matte, maybe.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You can well because my story I'm going to tell
you from the weekend is very stressful.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Really went from.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
The same Kildon Markets and we're going to go watch
a movie. So I went to the shop. She likes
to collect the hard tickets of every movie she goes to.
She's got like a stack of them. So I went
to buy and I bought them for the screening at
whatever time. It was like six point thirty. I did
this during the day, so the car parks full. I
went to a bit of a shop, got some groceries,
got everything. I've been using one of my dad's utes
(04:20):
from the office, so you know, save fuel, save money
on that save money on my.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Cut very expensive at the moment, I've gotten.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
To add that my car sitting on the driveway with
a flat tire haven't changed yet or two ago. I
just haven't been bothered to change it because I've got
this car. So I'm driving this one around now, so
essentially you don't want to tie. I get so flat
that it almost like folds on itself. It's gotten to
that point and every day I walk past, I'm just
(04:47):
like Nat today. So I've been driving that around. But
the key is separate from the central locking, so they're
on a key. They're both different. So when I told
my family and everyone this, they said, how'd you get
into the car? And I said, because the central locking
is on a different switch to the actual key that
you put in the ignition, like an old school U,
(05:09):
one of the old school utes that we have. So
I was like, all right. So I got in the
car after doing my shopping, central lock sat down. I
was looking through my keys and the car key wasn't
on there. Fuck, I've had a huge night. I have
to get home. I just want to get home, shower,
I just want to like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So this is your Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, this is my Sunday wholesome morning. And I've driven
back on to the shops gone to and I was like,
oh my god. I was like, all right, so I've gone,
all right, I need to retrace all my steps. So
and have you ever tried to retrace your steps after
like you've done a full shop, like gone grocery shopping,
gone shopping, go on everything.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Never, thankfully, Well it's fucked, I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So I'm looking on the ground. If anyone saw you
walking around, they would have been like, fuck, this guy's
in some state. Because I was looking around getting all frantic.
I went to colds to my grocery shop, and I
was like, all right, where did I start? Where did
I go? And I was like you know what, Actually,
I was like, that's going to be so dumb doing that.
I'm gonna go aisle by aisle and see if I
see it. So I've done the whole shop and then
I've come to the conclusion. Oh and as I was
(06:09):
walking out, one of my ex's mum says a lope
to me, because she going on the one from when
I was like sixteen eighteen. But I'm still unfriendly turned
to her. So we're going day on the escalator and
she wanted to have a chat and I'm like, no, no,
I need to find this today. Dressing out, got to
the car and I was like got back to my
car and I was like, you know what. I was like,
I don't know where it is. I'm gonna have to
(06:30):
call like carkid people who come cut a new key
for me. Accepted defeat, And as I hopped in the
car to call him, I looked on the ground where
my feet were and it was sitting there. So so
after all that, it was literally just sitting in the
car and I was like, fuck me. I was like,
this is this is this is the pit summed up
(06:51):
my day. So then I went home, I went to bed,
had a knaf and woke up and went watched Violent Nights.
So if anyone's seen Violent Night, I recommend watching it.
If you currently in the movie, yeah, currently movies. If
you're into Christmas movies and violence, it's a good movie.
They go together.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We look, I don't think it's going to be on
my list, but I mean each to their own.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
What did you get up to on the weekend? Was yours?
As less frantic as much as Sunday was. Did you
have a cheer one?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, look, on Friday I did something very exciting, which
you know, I went wedding dress shopping. So basically, I'm
working with a designer to make my wedding dress. So
I had my first meeting with him on Friday. So
I kind of sat down, I told him about what
style of wedding I'm going to have. I kind of
(07:38):
showed him some picks from my Pinterest board that I've
been screenshotting and saving, and I guess we're going to
create a wedding dress together.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
In my ignorance, Yeah, so your weddings I was seeing
twenty twenty four, that's what you're aiming for. Yeah, you
said a bit early to doing the dress.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well, if you're getting a dress made, you need a
year really, Yeah, so you need a full year to
kind of plan. And obviously I'm going to go back
and try on a few wedding dresses to see what
shape I like. Because obviously, like I could, like I
don't know a specific wedding dress, but it might not
look good on me.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So wouldn't it go out of fashion in a year
or something like? It might not be fashionable, might not
be well.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I mean, wedding dresses, you can, they're quite classic and
like timeless pieces.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
But yeah, I have to start pre planning this stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Sorry. Like I said, part of the ignorance, I don't
know what goes into planning a wedding dress.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I think because you're a boy as well, like boys
aren't really that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Interested in weddings, Like I mean, I've never planned a
wedding before. But Michael seems to be just kind of like, yeah,
like I'm happy if you're happy kind of vibe. And
I feel like that's kind of something that I hear
a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Hello, you've reached.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Anna, and that we can't get to the phone right now,
but please leave us a message on our hot line
after the beep. Okay, so this week we are going
to be listening to a voice mail. This is a
random voicemail that we've got on our hotline from a
girl called Maddie. Now I have listened to this, and
our producer Alex has listened to this, and this is
(09:11):
the wildest voicemail we have ever received.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So Matt, you are like very excited to hear this.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I know I am. Yeah, you guys have been talking
about this affair bead I said, I'll wait till the
actual episode to have a listen.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I had to hear it. I was like, I need
to know what this is about.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And then I spoke to our producer Alex and we
were like, we have to get her on because we
just have so many questions for us.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So we're going to listen to the voicemail, we're going to.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
React to it, and then we're actually going to talk
to Maddie. She's coming on the hot line and we're
gonna ask all the questions.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
She should know this.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I'm stressed. I'm stressed for Maddie. I'm like secondhand angry
for her. So I think we should listen.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Hi, Matt Nana.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
My name's Maddie and this is my crazy life story.
So six years ago, I was eighteen and I met
this guy. He was twenty seven, so a little bit
of an age gap, but we fell in love instantly.
Everything moved really quickly. We got pregnant with our first
(10:17):
daughter three months in fast forward.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
A year after that.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
We got married and got pregnant with our second daughter,
and then a few months after that we got pregnant
with our third daughter. And then late last year, November
twenty twenty one, I had our third daughter and we'd
been together for five years. Our daughter was three weeks old.
(10:47):
We just moved into a house together, a new house together,
and I got a message from one of my girlfriends
saying that she had found out my husband had been
cheating on me with my mum. That they had been
having an affair since before our second daughter was born,
(11:08):
and it continued until halfway through my pregnancy with.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
My third daughter, so i'd been going on for about
a year and a half.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
As you can believe, that was shocked me. I was
obviously just had a newborn baby. I had a three
year old and a one year old. I was so confused, shocked,
every emotion under the sun. This is obviously a short story,
but a few days later the truth did come out
(11:40):
and my husband ended up admitting it.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Ex husband.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
And I haven't had communication with my mom since then.
We had one phone call where she admitted it, but
never apologized.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And now fast forward a year, a single mom to
three little babies, and it's honestly been the biggest blessing
in my life. I've met an amazing new guy who's
just taken on the role of a father figure to
my girls, like amazingly. But yeah, that's my crazy story,
(12:18):
and no one ever believes me when I tell them,
so it's sort of like an icebreaker conversation starter that
me and my sister like to laugh about now that obviously,
looking back, it's very traumatizing.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
So, yeah, that's my crazy story.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So we'll get Maddie on because I've got a thousand questions.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Welln't that the wildest story you've ever heard in your
whole life?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Well, Anna, what would you do if you found out Anne,
Marie and Michael.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Were I would fucking order a hit on both of them.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
That would be I'm pissed off from Maddie, Like what
the fuck?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I just have so many questions, like how did they
first meet the mom and the they're like.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, probably because she was, Like this is what.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Was their sexual chemistry? You're reackon from the start.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That is just so nuts, Like who what type of
mother is hooking up with their daughter's.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Husband when they have three kids? So like the kids's
grandma is hooking up with the dad. It's just not right,
that's fucked up.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I want to speak to her and find out.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well we are, we're about to speak to her, but like, fuck,
I'm so glad number one that it's been a happy
ending for her, because geez, that is hard to get over,
and like she's probably overcome it because she has three
daughters that she has to worry about.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Think about it. You meant to trust your husband and
your mom more than anyone, and then they've both done
the dirty on you, so you've had to see those
both those relationships end at once, and they've both like
taken your trust away from you. So like I would
find it really hard to trust anyone after that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I mean, I find it hard to trust anyone on
a good day, never mind after that, I'd.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Be like, I don't even bother try actually fucked over
by both your mum and your husband.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Like she must have been like leaving her kids with
the grandma and her husband.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They must have been like together.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Or even worse, the kids are left with her and
then the husband's going to the mum's house.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It's just our poor Maddie. We have to talk to her.
Shall we get her on the phone.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, let's do it. Hey Maddie, Hi, Hey Maddie. Welcome
to the show. Thank you for jumping on and explaining
the rest of this wild story that we just listened to.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
You're welcome. Pretty crazy, very crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
This is the craziest hotline story we've ever received, and
we are just full of so many questions. Firstly, we
want to say sorry that you've had to go through
such a wild, wild experience that's like crazy.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah, it's pretty fuck up, but it's a year on now,
so I feel like it's easy to talk about and
I'm doing so well.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So yeah, it's clear that you've found another guy and
he's taken on the role as the father and doing well.
That's good to hear.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, he's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
We're so glad that there is a happy ending out
of all of this for you, and we're really glad
that you met him. But can you just take us
back to that day when your friend called you and
you found out that your mom and your husband were
having an affair behind your back.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yeah, So we just moved into a new house. So
I just had our third daughter, So she was two
weeks old, and I got a message from my friend
saying can you come to my house? And I was
like no, Like, I've got three little kids, Like it's
not that easy to just pack up the car and
bring them with me, yea, So like just call me,
and she's like, I really need to tell you. Like
(15:39):
it went back and forth a little bit, so it's
like just call me, like I'll go to the bathroom.
And I sort of had like a gut feeling, like
my heart just sank. And then she said to me
that she had all these screenshots of him messaging her
mom and explaining the whole affair to her mom what
they'd been doing.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
He was sending to your friend's mum.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, so he had been messaging my friend's mum I
think maybe trying to persuade her to have an affair
with him, and then going into the details with her
about where they would do it, what had been going on,
And she had secretly been taking photos of all these
messages and snapchat and it had been going on for
quite a few months before I knew. So then, yeah,
(16:21):
she showed me all of that everything. Her mum came
to me and explained everything, And of course I went
to my partner at the time and said, like, what
is this and he was like, I don't know, It's
not me blah. Blah blah, And of course I knew
it was him. His name was written all over it,
it was his snapchat everything. So yeah, that's pretty much
(16:41):
I found out. And then it was just turmoil from there.
I rang my dad because my mom and dad were
still together. They still are together actually, and I had said,
I'm coming over. I've got the three kids, Like obviously,
I was really upset. Showed him everything. He tried to
wring my mum and she wouldn't ant. She finally answered
and he had said, look, I've found out this. You
(17:04):
need to come home. And she took off and we
didn't speak to her for two days, and then she
eventually came back. I had one phone call with her,
a big argument, and that was kid. I haven't spoken
to her or seen her since, and that was a
year ago. And yeah, that's sort of the gist of
the story.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh my god, were you in disbelief hearing this like
that just seems like the craziest, most absurd story ever.
Are we kind of like, yeah, my mum has this
in her.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, I sort of now looking back and speaking to
my dad a lot, my mum had had affairs when
we were kids, or my dad so I should have,
in hindsight maybe expected it from her. But in the
months leading up to it, like as sick as it
like it feels to say this, I sort of had
a gut feeling like I knew something was going on.
There was just times when they would be together and
(17:59):
no one else was there, and like they would do
like changeover from looking after my kids when I was working,
And yet there was sort of, I don't know, just
a gut feeling that I knew something was going on.
But obviously it sounds so fucked to even think that,
So I just thought I was crazy and like a
super jealous like wife. But yeah, my gut like knew
the whole time.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Fuck a woman's intuition.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
We always say it, but you always have to listen
to it, because if something's like telling you something's wrong,
it's normally right.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Just how did they Do you know any details of
how it started? When?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, well, my husband pretty much told me all of
it and said that it sort of just started with
flirting and they would snutchat and things like that, and
then one day they kissed, and then the next time
they saw each other, like they would do changeover for
looking after my kids when my husband would leave for
work and I was working the whole day, so they
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would like had sex once and then it just sort
of continued and they would speak about it, and because
it happened like every couple of weeks or every month
or so, and there was one time that I thought
I'd caught them. I got home. I was here at
my parents' house, and my mum walked in the door
from work, and then my husband came in like a
(19:15):
minute later, and they didn't say hello to each other,
which is really strange. Normally, when they see each other,
like for the first time, we would all say hello.
So that was sort of like alarm bells. And my
gut was already like telling me something was going on.
And then we got home and our bedroom blinds were
shot and I always leave them open, like I used
to always have to my husband about shutting the blinds
(19:36):
like when it's hot, and they were down, and that
was just like my gut was just feeling terrible, like
I knew something was going on. So then I confronted
him about it, and I actually messaged my mom saying,
did you come to my house after work? And she said, yeah,
I did. But then I like knew you guys weren't there.
So I left and then she had snapchatted my husband
(20:00):
and I had his phone, and she said, Maddie just
asked me if I went to your house, if she
asked you anything, tell her this is what happened. Oh
so so fuck your friend even told you.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
So this was July last year. So I just fallen
pregnant with my third daughter. And then that came out
and my husband said to me that they just kissed,
like eventually i'd gotten out, but I'm like, I know
something's going on. You need to tell me. And he said,
we just kissed and that was that. And then so
I knew about that, and I was like ten weeks pregnant,
(20:38):
and obviously I was like trying to I don't know.
I look back and think, why did I try and
work it out? But I was trying to work it
out for the sake of the kids. So I was like,
maybe it just was a mistake. They were both reassuring
me that it was nothing. It was a tiny peck,
that was all that happened. Yeah, and then I didn't
find out the whole story till yees six months later.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh my god, are you poor thing? That is just
I just can't even imagine.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
How do you trust your current partner after going through
that level of deceit from them?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I did say, that's yeah, your mom and your husband
and your husband you mean to put a lot of
trust in and invest in and they do you dirty, Like,
how can you come back and trust anyone after that?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, I feel like I had those worries a lot,
But I don't know if it's just because the guy
that I'm with is like so great. But I honestly
thought I would be a lot worse than what I am,
but he is just like we have really great communication,
so that I think that's the main thing. Like I
don't feel like he's hiding anything from me. We talk
about everything, and just from the get go I've got
(21:40):
like a complete different vibe of him than what I
got off my husband.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Oh my god, I'm so happy for you far out.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So you said your dad and your mom are still together.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, so they're still together. Sorry, my daughter's staying on
the door in that my grandson. Yeah, they're still together.
So that's obviously caused a lot of dramas between my
dad and I because I just can't believe he would
stay with her, But I've voiced all this to him,
and at the end of the day, like it's his decision.
He has to live with her all the time, and
as long as it doesn't come between our relationship or
he's trying to force me to see her or anything
(22:11):
like that, Like I just try to keep it cool.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Oh my god, So you've not seen your mom since
this happened, but your dad is very much still in
your life, is that correct?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yeah? Yeah, I see him all the time.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And then what about your ex husband? How often, if
at all?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
He sees our kids every second weekend, so normally I'll
see him at like changeovers for that. And obviously in
the beginning it was really hard, like I hated him
for a long time, but now I've sort of just
let it go and just trying to copare and as
well as we can for the sake of our girls,
because it does make such a difference to their behavior
and all those sorts of things if we are getting along.
(22:49):
So yeah, we even just had our daughter's youngest son's
first birthday, which we haven't been together her whole life
pretty much, and he came for the party. His family
came for the party, so yeah, yeah, we're really trying
hard to co parent together and put my own feelings
aside and put the girls first.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I'm assuming your mum wasn't at that party.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Definitely not.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Maddie.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
You are a stronger person than I am, Like I
am looking up to you so much right now for
your strength for your kids, because like I just I
don't know if I would have it in.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Me to do that. No, I almost I can't wrap
my head around it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Do you think you'll tell your daughters what's happened when
they grow up?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
I do think about this a lot because even now,
my oldest daughter, she's only four, but we had a
massive like my mum was a massive part of our lives.
We would see her every day and especially my girls' lives.
So it has been the adjustment to especially my oldest
like not seeing her and she does ask questions like
where's Nana and whatever, and I just try to play
(23:50):
it off. But I think it will come a time
when they ask me about it, because they're not a
part of her life, but they see my dad, and
I think I'm just gonna have to be honest with them,
And you know, their dad made a massive mistake. I
don't really want to turn them on their dad, but
when they're old enough, that'll be up to them to
make that decision, and he'll have a lot of explaining
to do to them.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah fuck yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Is he Do you know about he's dating anyone? Now?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I haven't really heard. He tells me a few like
you're seeing girls or whatever, but then tries to flirt
with me when I see him, So I don't really know.
But I don't feel jealous or anything like that, like
I feel sorry for whoever's going to be with him.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Well, he said he was hitting on your friend's mum
as well. Does he have like a fetish for mums
or something?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I think so he must have like a mum fetish
because they're all like fifty years old and he's thirty
and I'm a lot younger than him, So I don't know.
He must have a thing for older women. I think
he just has a lot of insecurities and needs to
be wanted and needs attention all the time. So obviously
that and the thrill of doing it behind everyone's back
(24:56):
was enough for them. Your poor dad, Yeah, he is
the best, that's honestly why. I just don't know why
he puts up with it because he could find like
the most amazing woman and he's like such a beautiful person.
But I don't know that's up to him.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Has your mom tried to reach out to you?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Obviously you had that one call, But has she tried
to like message you or call you at all?
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Yeah, she messaged me a lot in the beginning before
I had blocked her, and then after we had our
big fight. I had blocked her because it was just
like too much. I was trying to deal with the
kids and husband's side of it. I felt like her
side of it just needs to take a step back.
And obviously having a newborn baby, like my head was
consumed with that. So yeah, she hadn't contacted me because
(25:42):
I had blocked her. But then she'll randomly like photos
that I've been tagged in on Instagram or like it
was my birthday a few weeks ago and she sent
me a bunch of flowers just saying I miss you
and I love you.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Like, yeah, ever accept her apology and rekindle something or
you think that's just dead in the water.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, I think think it's gone. Like obviously, some days
I miss having my mum and we were so close,
like it would just be nice to have her, But
it's not the same, Like once you do that, I
could never do that to my kids, So I don't
know how you could do that to your daughter. So
I don't think it'll ever come back.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's just a whole new level of low. It's just
like the disrespect, Like, how can you come back from that?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It's yeah, one hundred.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, Maddie, thank you so much for sending us this voicemail.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
We really appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You're so sorry you've been through this traumatic event, and
thank you for being so open as to share only
a year later. Again, thank you so much, and thanks
for being on our hotline, no worries, Thanks for having
you guys,
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