November 18, 2025 • 26 mins
Welcome back to another episode of WYHA! On this episode, Anna opens up about some confusing and disturbing DMs Anna has been getting, and then Anna and Matt unpack a new phenomenon 'winter coating' and give you hints and tips on how to catch on if someone is using you as their winter coat! Thanks for listening and we'll be back in your ears tomorrow x
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How often do you check DMS on TikTok?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Never?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Never?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Did I send you my direct ones that I this?
Good morning? Anna? Where's your head?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good morning? How are you feeling this morning?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm actually good. I've only had one coffee, though I
know we rushed in here. I've it's a little bit
late turning another coffee.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, I feel like I'm trying to come back again.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I feel like I should as well, but nah, I should,
but I'm not going Taylor's old as time. Hey, I'm
going to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
True. The weather is absolutely glorious in Melbourne, and I
feel like summer is upon us. It's lovely to be
soaking up all the beautiful suntimes.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I got a question for you. I think I asked
you this the other day. I was talking to my
mate the other day. When was the last time you
went to the beach in Australia? In Melbourne?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Literally this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Before that? When I was last time I went to
a long time? Yeah, I just don't go to the
beach here in Melbourne for some reason.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Do you know what I was saying this to you
the other day? Melbourn beaches kind of suck? I hate
to say it because I'm so pro Melbourne, Like we
have so many good things, like we have the tennis,
we have the Formula one, we have so many amazing things.
But seriously, the beaches.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What's wrong with the beaches? Because I mean, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Just cold, The water is cold, the water looks dark.
I'm just not it.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm gonna say an unpopular opinion here. People can say
what they want. Come for me if you want. I'm
not a big fan of the beach.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Why Probably because you're from Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Maybe I used to have this problem a lot when
I was living on the Gold Coast. I'd be like it,
just the beaches are fun. You leave, you're sticky. You're
all sticky from the salt water. They're sand everywhere. It's coarse,
it's dry like it. I just I don't get the
appeal of the beach. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, but remember my Hen's party. I went to the
Gold Coast for my hands. You came and met us,
like me and the girls at the beach. The sun
was shining. We went in for a dip, jumping over
the waves for a bit, and then left. Tell me
that's not fun. Like I get the stickiness part. I
do get that, but it's it's called a shower.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, but what you have that shitty shower at the beach.
Then you get into the car and you're all sticky
and your tops on and the suncream, and like I feel,
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It's momentary for minimal payoff, and then like what but
it's not. I feel like the beach just like I
don't know, it's energizing, like me swimming in the waves
and like jumping waves. I'm like at peace with life.
Like there's nothing in me that's stressed about some something
dew up, doing website updates, Like anything that's slightly irritating
(02:45):
just evades my mind.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I just don't say it, Sorry, I don't each to me,
is not an idea. Fine, unless you're on a holiday
and you go down to the beach. Sure, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Being in Hawaii with Swede and Michael in the water
as the summer setting is like a core memory that
I'll have for life. It was like the best, one
of the best moments in my life. Sound's cool that wonder,
It's like beautifully warm.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean, yeah, I can think back to being on
a beach in Corfu for your thing, like that's a
core memory or like in the mold Ives' core memory
to mine. But like, I just don't think going to
the beach. You've just a good beach, well, white Haven Beach,
I mean some really cool beaches around the world, But
like you know, I.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Just turning your nose.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I just don't think it's something that you go. I
don't know. I just don't go out of my way
to go to the beach.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, I will say, like going to the beach with
a baby, if it was not as fun when you
went in Hawaii, like doing it in Melbourne, I was
letting it's gonna happen many more times. Although if you're
listening and you are from Melbourne and you're like, actually,
we have some good beaches. Talky Beach, incredible, Bell's Beach, incredible.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
One of my favorite scenes of all time and Point
Break when Patrick sways he's going to go take the
wave and Keanus lets him go because he knows he's
gonna die. What a movie.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't know what you're talking about. I thought I
knew that.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is cinema movie. Point Break.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Point Break is a movie. Sorry, that just went so
over my head, like I don't even know what.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
There's a couple of moments in a man's life. His
first heartbreak, the first time he watched his point break.
He's gets his driving license in his first beer.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It's so funny that you're like, do you know what's
hilarious is like my dad has this thing at the
moment where he's like, I just can't wait to sit
and watch a movie with Swede, like watch Harry Potter
with Swede, Like it's like in his head, fixated in
his head that like his life will be complete when
he like watch movies with Swaye. And I just feel
like you give that same energy. It's pretty cute.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean showing kids movies. That's probably enough
to do it one time. It's a good feeling. Yeah,
getting them to watch the one that you grew up with. Yeah,
it's a good feeling. Star Wars, Yeah, Star Wars, it's
a great feeling.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I have something that I really want to talk about
and a dress because for the longest time on TikTok,
I did not know that I had all of these
unread d ms.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I had the same problem on time, and I went
to them and saw them. Yeah, because how often do
you check dms.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
On tik talk? Never?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, you don't check that. I send you my direct
ones that I seen. It was an early wake up today, dude.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was up multiple times humping milk so that he
could live with dad. That was dramatic. I came across
my damns. Dude, you're going to die. You're going to die.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
What they bad or good?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I'm just going to read a few hours and then
you can piece together what I'm dealing with. And when
I say those one hundreds of these, there is hundreds, hundreds,
maybe even thousands, maybe not thousands, but definitely a thousand.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, got me excited.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
If eight thousand dollars was in your PayPal account?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So settlement of self issues? How are you going to
spend it? A car? Bills, school, family donation, groceries, debt business?
I'd love to help from Daddy Muller.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
What's the catch? What do you want next?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Hello, beautiful? May I ask you a question? If that's
all right? Do you need money next?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Sweetie? Can I sort some bills out for you and
put you on a weekly allowance for your upkeep? We
can discuss details if you're ready.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Next, so are you replying to these people?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Come on, hey, Princess, can I ask you? I'm sorry
to distract you, but can I ask you a real question?
Because I want to help you out with money?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Next, this is the last time you truly deserve all
the love, tenderness and care this world has to offer. Beautiful,
never forget that. Do you want to chat? I'd love
to help you out.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That's a nice one. That's a nice approach by.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Him, started with a few compliments.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, he's done well there.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I mean, it's all a nice approach. They're all offering
me like eight grand apparently if I give them my PayPal.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Account, I mean, go for it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I don't know. It feels like it's some sort of
like crazy scam.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
If you have to send a pair of dirty socks,
send a pair of dirty socks for eight grand.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I feel like this is like there can't be really cows.
I'm like, this must be happening to girls all over TikTok,
and I want to ask and put it out there
is this happening to girls all over TikTok because I
can't be the only one.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And you want to know that if you send them
a PayPal account. It's legit, and.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I'm like you to get eight grand if I keep
them my PayPal acount.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
PayPal is pretty safe.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Let's talk about my TikTok content for a second. I'm
a mum with a five month old baby.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Michael features pretty heavily.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Michael features heavily. I don't know why I'm being hit
up like this.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Maybe just own it.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's not about owning it. I think it's like a scam.
I think they're bots. I don't know what they are,
but I'm like, whoever has put you towards my account
like scram.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Scram, no, no, please inform us about that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I need to show you right now. It's literally one
of my favorite ever TikTok fi.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I've had people ask for like dirty socks in exchange
for money, but I'm like the same thing, like if
I actually send them my socks. And socks are so
hard these days to you know, like they go but
they go missing real quickly. I go through socks so quickly,
and it's like do I really want to send a
pair off and then not have them?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Okay, this we need to talk about socks. I'm so
glad you put this because Michael and I are shook
to our core at the moment and it's all over socks.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Why so are they going is the sock faith? It's
Dobby at your house.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, So, like we literally have so many socks. We
did have so many socks. We get socks for birthdays,
socks for Christmases from both from my parents, so like
we should have an abundance.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Of If you're listening, our socks is a great present. Yeah,
Like socks and jocks are so underrated. Yeah, like I
said it last year, Calvin Klein Long's size large black, Yeah,
that's the way to go.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But yeah, like all of our socks are missing, to
the point that we didn't have one pair of socks.
We have a shared sock draw. I mean Michael did
not have one pair of socks in our stock draw
but swain sock drawer fulls.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Is he stealing your socks?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Socks don't go missing. So I was like, make that
make sense?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Are they getting stuck down behind the washing machine? I
see you do your own washing now, Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
A few times a few Michael's more in charge of
the washing, but I do like put it on. I
am not that hard to do washing like it's literally
like put the washing into the machine, press a button.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I actually don't mind doing my washing.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I actually don't mind. It's quite therapeutic.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It's not like the hanging up when it's wet.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh, it's fucking brutal.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Back to socks. How come all of our socks are
missing and sways aren't?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Because how do you think you're paying for bills? Michael
sending your socks off to these people in TikTok fast?
How the bills are getting That's how they're he's not
telling you.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, on that note, let's jump into today's episode. Okay,
mat So, one of my friends, who is single, was
talking to me about winter coating. Have you heard of
this term?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'm sorry before we go on, we have the camera
set up and I should address it. I'm staring right
at myself on this screen here. Should have known it's
too distracting. But let's keep going.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Actually, when she came in and said, do you have
me to put your face on your screen? I said no,
and you were like yes, absolutely showed me what I
look like.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I can't. Why am I watching it? It's just me
in lifetime Raine. Okay, okay, let's winter coding. Let's get
to it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
If you could have just seen what I saw. Guys. Yeah,
so my friend she's going to remain nameless. She rekindled
things with her ex. Let me just start by saying,
there's a phenomenon called winter coding. So it's similar to
the concept of cuffing season. We know what cuffing season is.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Cuffing season is when you let go of your partner
because it's coming into summer.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Correct. Yes, so it's similar to cuffing season, but it's
winter coding, which involves reaching out to an ex partner
to regnat the spark during the cold winter months. So
it's not about true love. It's about reconnection rather, and
it's about filling the void so that they feel less
alone during winter.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Because you did say, we're coming into summer right now,
some people might be shredding their winter coding. Yes, which
could be an X, could be an X situationship, an
X flame, It could be a completely X which if
you're doing that, that's pretty silly, but you know, it
could be someone like that you've had things with that
you feel comfortable around, so you're inviting them around on
those cold winter nights to have a cup of tea
(12:20):
and to watch I don't know a movie have sex with.
I guess that's what you're into.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That's probably the main.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Fuck here of mine. Love a boy trying to be
romantic running cuddles. Okay, mate, Okay, cuddle is awesome, and
watching them cuddle is if it leads to a poke
in the back, it does, can you that is above board? Yeah?
That's appropriate. Okay, Well we'll find out if it's this.
(12:48):
You'll find out if it's in the episode or not.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Maybe you'll keep it in when you're listening back to
this episode then that if it's on the if it's
on the cutting room floor or not, we'll find out. Anyway,
So my friend was seeing a guy. They broke up,
and he did rekindle things with her over winter.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So he did it. He did it, did he say hey?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
But it was still casual. But it was like, you know,
like wanting those extra winter struggles, having someone to winter
coat up with. I guess you would call hibernate hybrid
eate with exactly. That's way much better, much more better.
And now she's kind of getting the flick.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
He's flicking her off.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well, yeah, because we're coming into summer.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So at this point I'm not from I haven't winter
coated or hibernated with anyone. It should communication be key here,
tell them what the girl is or do you reckon?
Then they might not agree to it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So you go, hey, do you want to be my
winter coat? I mean, hey, like you sounds cute winter coat?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I don't know. Yeah, maybe someone said that to me.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
My polar bear.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Hibernate with no normal bears hibernate birth don't hibernate there.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
You go, well, you know more than they do.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You want to be my there that we hibnate with.
I mean I would if I was someone was doing
that with me, I'd be quite offended.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, I mean it's so hard, right because like no
one wants to be single and alone in a cold
house watching movies by themselves. So I can understand why winter.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It just summed up my winter, and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You'd loved you and your mum wearing teas on the
couch like you're good.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I was fine.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Do you know? What's actually interesting as well is for
anyone who might be thinking of cuffing, which is like
getting rid of the excess people or like cutting people
out of their lives in preparation for summer. Supposedly, December
of the eleventh is the date in which the most
people get broken up with in the whole year.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's fascinating. It's right before Christmas as well.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
My dad's birthday is it every year? I'm like, Dad,
I do having a good day because there's a lot
of people who ain't.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
That's fascinating. December the eleventh.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I wouldn't pick it, but if you think, like think
about it logically, so maybe on December first you're like, fuck, summer,
summer's hick. Everyone's like, oh, first day of summer. And
then you're like, oh shit, and then it takes you
ten days to really grow the balls to just cut
you know, if it's.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Not the one something like wow, I mean I just
so close to Christmas, like I probably wouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, you don't want to buy an extra present.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
True, and if it's your partner, it's going to be
a good present.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's got to be a good present. And then it's like, yeah,
like if you if you don't feel like you're going
to be with the long term, my last relationship, proper relationship.
We broke up in like November, late November. It was great.
It's actually a great time to break up. Then you
(15:58):
have summer. Yeah, it's like no time to be depressed
in the house.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, you're going out. There's like, you know, day drinking,
summer stuff. Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Lots of events. The events season is here. What do
you have planned for events season? Because I know that
you would be Christmas gurly.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Just the usual going to pick a Christmas tree with
the family at start of December. Yeah, and then just
Christmas Eve with my family.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Normally Christmas Day we wake up with the family presence,
the go to our partners houses. But that's not I
would just probably just hang out or Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I feel like Christmas peaks on Christmas Eve and then
it's just downhill from there.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But that's because you guys have like a specific, huge
chrestivity on that day. Maybe you need to make one
for Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I mean yeah, sure, Like the last three or four Christmases,
I've flown on Christmas Morning to Sydney. This like the
two years in the Gold Coast.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's crazy. Yeah, they like sing Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
On the flight, norry Christmas. It's actually pretty normal, so
we say it's no, yeah, it's actually pretty normal.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So no one's like a mery Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Oh you say mery Christmas people, but you start when
you have you started doing that. No, it's too early
to say that. Too early. Yeah, a couple more weeks, maybe.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You'll start seeing people be like, okay, merry christ.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, merry Christmas. Or when you're like, you know, buy
something mery Christmas.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I would only say to someone merry Christmas on Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'll tell you what I am.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Maybe Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Actually a couple of weeks ago, I got thrown off
because the Christmas decorations were up at the shops, but
so Halloween stuff still because Halloween had n't had so
I was like having like a wigging out because it
was like everything we're not, just like, oh where am
I right now?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And my Christmas snatching pajamas arrived and I posted a
story about it, and that's like it's too early.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Take it down? No, No, because you said it's too early,
and I said, it's spooky season.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Stip spooky season. Don't don't put your Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
To should we go into signs that you are your
partner is winter coating. You tell me they only reach
out in off seasons.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So this is this So when we're talking about winter coding,
and we're talking about someone who's like a long term
like X or like person that you've seen, and.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
They're just reaching out, like we said, to just hug
and probably just have someone during because phenomenally during winter
kind of.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Like a booty call, right, That's essentially what this is,
but a winter booty call.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
But I think it has a lot more like to it,
Like you're not just what's a booty call these days? Anyway?
What do they even like? What is that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Like friends with benefits? Yeah? What I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah? And you know, people don't say Netflix and chill anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I wouldn't know. Yeah, what do they say?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
There's a word called sneaky link.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, you told me about that. I got my sneaky link.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I heard it for the first time and I was like, dude,
that's that's not funny.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It is like you're literally thirty, and you're like people
these days don't say this. People these days voice, I'm like,
you're not seventy.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like I'm more talking about the people that are like single,
because if you think about it, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And you're probably dating people who would be gen z right,
Like we're millennials, you're like the last year of millennial,
the first year of millennial, because I'm pretty sure you're
the same year as my brother in nineteen ninety five,
Is that right, with the last year of millennial? Yeah,
the last year of millennial? Correct. So then if you're
dating anyone younger, they're gen z Is that right?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
What do you not want to comment about that? That's
just facts. That's like trying to be all coy and
like private about is like dating life.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Dating is a very loose term what you're.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Allowed to you're allowed to date.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I know.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
But are you just feeling like you just want to
keep it a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Like a bit more cash than datings.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, you're trying to keep it casual.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, dating makes it sound a.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Lot more been married. It makes complete sense. I think
any one who's dating you probably is away you were
just married. Yeah, as long as you're honest and very
honest you say I'm not looking for anything serious.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, I feel like dating makes it sound a lot
more serious than it is.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But this is what I was saying to you. It
just takes one good date.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The next sign is that.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The next the next sign is their communication is on
and off, which I look, I'm not gonna lie. I
just feel like we're talking right now about someone that's
just is a booty call. That's an expression like friends
of benefits not friends of benefits. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I kind of think like if the relations if the
communication is on and off, read between the lines, like
people like like people don't need to people don't need
to like physically say something. You can read how people
are acting, and that probably says a lot more.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
My mate gave a bit of advice the other day.
Actually I don't know why I took it from him,
but I thought it was quite a nice bit of
a beneficial He said, if you organize a date with someone,
you don't need to continue talking to him every day NonStop.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You doing that?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
No, it was just thrown around me because he was like,
you know, you organize the date and then you touch
base of them a day every day like before how
to day going, But you need to save something for
when you get there or else. You know, if you've
been talking non stop. You're just rehashing things. There's not
much new to talk about when you're actually sitting there
in person, and obviously in person, the connection is a
(21:38):
lot deeper than just voice notes or texting. He lost
over here. I just told you to escape some really
great relationship advice.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
We just hit for studios and I can see behind
me it's Jason Laurie's here. So I was like, is
that behind me? And then I was like are they there?
And I was like, where is Jason?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Long Well, for everyone listening at home, Anna, wasn't that
is some good advice.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Never get distracted when you talk. Let's be real, you
always get distracted when it was probably the first time
this is true. Just to repeat that with you, just
so I can just compute what you said.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I said something along the lines of when you date,
so on you don't or going on it. When you've
organized a date with someone, you don't need to talk
to them every day afterwards non stop, to say it's Tuesday,
you go, let's catch up Friday. You don't need to
continue talking to them every day non stop, because come Friday,
what the fuck are you going to talk about? You're
going to rehash things you're already talking about, so you
(22:43):
can touch base with them every day if you like,
like how's your day been, how's work? How is this?
But you don't need to continue that conversation. I thought
that was a good piece of advice. Yeah, by my
thirty three year old single mate who hasn't had a
relationship in ten years, still got good.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't need to have a relationship. Told maybe he's
smarter than others because he doesn't have the heartbreak contral
flight to go with.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
But that builds character.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It does build character, and then you know what you
want and you figure out what you don't want, and
then you're one step closer you're finding the one, or
in that's case, just having some fun.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I'm sorry.
I'm just trying to like figure out what's going on.
Like I'm just doingn't spoken a lot like this week,
I know.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just being mad, Like I'm not
trying to can just be mad, Yeah, and like you just.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Want to be single.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm having a hard time holding these alligators down. The
fun Rick Flair a movie co It's a wrestler. Okay,
they The next sign is they only see you inconvenient
to them. Unfortunately, today's dating world is quite self absorbed.
(23:57):
Many datas, especially those partake in winter coding, only make
plans when it's convenient for them.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, that's it. This is very This is just basically casual.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Dating, casual dating.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
But the thing is, there's nothing wrong with casual dating.
If the person knows that you're casual dating, be.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Open about it. Communication is key, and I respect communication.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
The thing about winter coding is you're going back to
the same person time and time and time, like a
comfort blanket during winter. That's that's so that you don't
need to feel the winter blues.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
That's what separates it from casual dating. Correct rehashing it
with an ex flame, an X situationship an X, which
I sins would be stupid. But you know someone like.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
That, someone where there's maybe like a little bit of
feelings and history. But I always feel like and this
is just like a little piece of advice for me, like,
don't let someone string you along too much. Like if
you're catching feelings and they're keeping it super casual in them,
just be like, no, I'm not doing it, like, don't
play their game, like people who come plain about like oh,
(25:01):
like who are friends with benefits for like two years
and like blah blah blah, like don't put yourself in
that position, Like if you're catching feels after you know,
six months, then go, this is not good for my
mental health. Yes, I like you, you clearly don't like me.
If you did, we'd been a relationships. I'm out. And
then if they don't come to you and say I
(25:21):
fucked up, I do want to be with you, then
they weren't the one and move on to finding your
person if that's what you want to do, looking for
their person, but not everyone is like you're not looking
for your person.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
No, I got an agreement. That's great, great bit of advice.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Sorry. The next one is they prioritize their needs above yours.
Look like we said, this is casual dating, but when
it becomes winter coding is when it's with an ex
flame and they're using you just through the cold months
as an extra the chilli months, as a another instead
of a hot water bottle. They use you. But true, true, lush,
but true, hush for true.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, Okay, Matt.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's all we have time for today.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
This is all we have time for Guys, as always,
send us in topics that you want us to cover,
juicy stories you have. We love hearing them. Send us
voice notes, we'll play them on the podcast. And until
next time, Bye bye,
How often do you check DMS on TikTok?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Never?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Never?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Did I send you my direct ones that I this?
Good morning? Anna? Where's your head?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good morning? How are you feeling this morning?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm actually good. I've only had one coffee, though I
know we rushed in here. I've it's a little bit
late turning another coffee.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, I feel like I'm trying to come back again.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I feel like I should as well, but nah, I should,
but I'm not going Taylor's old as time. Hey, I'm
going to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
True. The weather is absolutely glorious in Melbourne, and I
feel like summer is upon us. It's lovely to be
soaking up all the beautiful suntimes.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I got a question for you. I think I asked
you this the other day. I was talking to my
mate the other day. When was the last time you
went to the beach in Australia? In Melbourne?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Literally this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Before that? When I was last time I went to
a long time? Yeah, I just don't go to the
beach here in Melbourne for some reason.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Do you know what I was saying this to you
the other day? Melbourn beaches kind of suck? I hate
to say it because I'm so pro Melbourne, Like we
have so many good things, like we have the tennis,
we have the Formula one, we have so many amazing things.
But seriously, the beaches.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What's wrong with the beaches? Because I mean, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Just cold, The water is cold, the water looks dark.
I'm just not it.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm gonna say an unpopular opinion here. People can say
what they want. Come for me if you want. I'm
not a big fan of the beach.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Why Probably because you're from Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Maybe I used to have this problem a lot when
I was living on the Gold Coast. I'd be like it,
just the beaches are fun. You leave, you're sticky. You're
all sticky from the salt water. They're sand everywhere. It's coarse,
it's dry like it. I just I don't get the
appeal of the beach. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay, but remember my Hen's party. I went to the
Gold Coast for my hands. You came and met us,
like me and the girls at the beach. The sun
was shining. We went in for a dip, jumping over
the waves for a bit, and then left. Tell me
that's not fun. Like I get the stickiness part. I
do get that, but it's it's called a shower.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, but what you have that shitty shower at the beach.
Then you get into the car and you're all sticky
and your tops on and the suncream, and like I feel,
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It's momentary for minimal payoff, and then like what but
it's not. I feel like the beach just like I
don't know, it's energizing, like me swimming in the waves
and like jumping waves. I'm like at peace with life.
Like there's nothing in me that's stressed about some something
dew up, doing website updates, Like anything that's slightly irritating
(02:45):
just evades my mind.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I just don't say it, Sorry, I don't each to me,
is not an idea. Fine, unless you're on a holiday
and you go down to the beach. Sure, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Being in Hawaii with Swede and Michael in the water
as the summer setting is like a core memory that
I'll have for life. It was like the best, one
of the best moments in my life. Sound's cool that wonder,
It's like beautifully warm.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean, yeah, I can think back to being on
a beach in Corfu for your thing, like that's a
core memory or like in the mold Ives' core memory
to mine. But like, I just don't think going to
the beach. You've just a good beach, well, white Haven Beach,
I mean some really cool beaches around the world, But
like you know, I.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Just turning your nose.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I just don't think it's something that you go. I
don't know. I just don't go out of my way
to go to the beach.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, I will say, like going to the beach with
a baby, if it was not as fun when you
went in Hawaii, like doing it in Melbourne, I was
letting it's gonna happen many more times. Although if you're
listening and you are from Melbourne and you're like, actually,
we have some good beaches. Talky Beach, incredible, Bell's Beach, incredible.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
One of my favorite scenes of all time and Point
Break when Patrick sways he's going to go take the
wave and Keanus lets him go because he knows he's
gonna die. What a movie.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't know what you're talking about. I thought I
knew that.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is cinema movie. Point Break.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Point Break is a movie. Sorry, that just went so
over my head, like I don't even know what.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
There's a couple of moments in a man's life. His
first heartbreak, the first time he watched his point break.
He's gets his driving license in his first beer.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It's so funny that you're like, do you know what's
hilarious is like my dad has this thing at the
moment where he's like, I just can't wait to sit
and watch a movie with Swede, like watch Harry Potter
with Swede, Like it's like in his head, fixated in
his head that like his life will be complete when
he like watch movies with Swaye. And I just feel
like you give that same energy. It's pretty cute.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean showing kids movies. That's probably enough
to do it one time. It's a good feeling. Yeah,
getting them to watch the one that you grew up with. Yeah,
it's a good feeling. Star Wars, Yeah, Star Wars, it's
a great feeling.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I have something that I really want to talk about
and a dress because for the longest time on TikTok,
I did not know that I had all of these
unread d ms.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I had the same problem on time, and I went
to them and saw them. Yeah, because how often do
you check dms.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
On tik talk? Never?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, you don't check that. I send you my direct
ones that I seen. It was an early wake up today, dude.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was up multiple times humping milk so that he
could live with dad. That was dramatic. I came across
my damns. Dude, you're going to die. You're going to die.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
What they bad or good?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I'm just going to read a few hours and then
you can piece together what I'm dealing with. And when
I say those one hundreds of these, there is hundreds, hundreds,
maybe even thousands, maybe not thousands, but definitely a thousand.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, got me excited.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
If eight thousand dollars was in your PayPal account?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So settlement of self issues? How are you going to
spend it? A car? Bills, school, family donation, groceries, debt business?
I'd love to help from Daddy Muller.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
What's the catch? What do you want next?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Hello, beautiful? May I ask you a question? If that's
all right? Do you need money next?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Sweetie? Can I sort some bills out for you and
put you on a weekly allowance for your upkeep? We
can discuss details if you're ready.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Next, so are you replying to these people?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Come on, hey, Princess, can I ask you? I'm sorry
to distract you, but can I ask you a real question?
Because I want to help you out with money?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Next, this is the last time you truly deserve all
the love, tenderness and care this world has to offer. Beautiful,
never forget that. Do you want to chat? I'd love
to help you out.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That's a nice one. That's a nice approach by.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Him, started with a few compliments.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, he's done well there.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I mean, it's all a nice approach. They're all offering
me like eight grand apparently if I give them my PayPal.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Account, I mean, go for it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I don't know. It feels like it's some sort of
like crazy scam.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
If you have to send a pair of dirty socks,
send a pair of dirty socks for eight grand.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I feel like this is like there can't be really cows.
I'm like, this must be happening to girls all over TikTok,
and I want to ask and put it out there
is this happening to girls all over TikTok because I
can't be the only one.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And you want to know that if you send them
a PayPal account. It's legit, and.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I'm like you to get eight grand if I keep
them my PayPal acount.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
PayPal is pretty safe.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Let's talk about my TikTok content for a second. I'm
a mum with a five month old baby.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Michael features pretty heavily.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Michael features heavily. I don't know why I'm being hit
up like this.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Maybe just own it.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's not about owning it. I think it's like a scam.
I think they're bots. I don't know what they are,
but I'm like, whoever has put you towards my account
like scram.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Scram, no, no, please inform us about that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I need to show you right now. It's literally one
of my favorite ever TikTok fi.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I've had people ask for like dirty socks in exchange
for money, but I'm like the same thing, like if
I actually send them my socks. And socks are so
hard these days to you know, like they go but
they go missing real quickly. I go through socks so quickly,
and it's like do I really want to send a
pair off and then not have them?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Okay, this we need to talk about socks. I'm so
glad you put this because Michael and I are shook
to our core at the moment and it's all over socks.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Why so are they going is the sock faith? It's
Dobby at your house.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, So, like we literally have so many socks. We
did have so many socks. We get socks for birthdays,
socks for Christmases from both from my parents, so like
we should have an abundance.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Of If you're listening, our socks is a great present. Yeah,
Like socks and jocks are so underrated. Yeah, like I
said it last year, Calvin Klein Long's size large black, Yeah,
that's the way to go.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But yeah, like all of our socks are missing, to
the point that we didn't have one pair of socks.
We have a shared sock draw. I mean Michael did
not have one pair of socks in our stock draw
but swain sock drawer fulls.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Is he stealing your socks?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Socks don't go missing. So I was like, make that
make sense?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Are they getting stuck down behind the washing machine? I
see you do your own washing now, Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
A few times a few Michael's more in charge of
the washing, but I do like put it on. I
am not that hard to do washing like it's literally
like put the washing into the machine, press a button.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I actually don't mind doing my washing.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I actually don't mind. It's quite therapeutic.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It's not like the hanging up when it's wet.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh, it's fucking brutal.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Back to socks. How come all of our socks are
missing and sways aren't?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Because how do you think you're paying for bills? Michael
sending your socks off to these people in TikTok fast?
How the bills are getting That's how they're he's not
telling you.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, on that note, let's jump into today's episode. Okay,
mat So, one of my friends, who is single, was
talking to me about winter coating. Have you heard of
this term?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'm sorry before we go on, we have the camera
set up and I should address it. I'm staring right
at myself on this screen here. Should have known it's
too distracting. But let's keep going.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Actually, when she came in and said, do you have
me to put your face on your screen? I said no,
and you were like yes, absolutely showed me what I
look like.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I can't. Why am I watching it? It's just me
in lifetime Raine. Okay, okay, let's winter coding. Let's get
to it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
If you could have just seen what I saw. Guys. Yeah,
so my friend she's going to remain nameless. She rekindled
things with her ex. Let me just start by saying,
there's a phenomenon called winter coding. So it's similar to
the concept of cuffing season. We know what cuffing season is.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Cuffing season is when you let go of your partner
because it's coming into summer.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Correct. Yes, so it's similar to cuffing season, but it's
winter coding, which involves reaching out to an ex partner
to regnat the spark during the cold winter months. So
it's not about true love. It's about reconnection rather, and
it's about filling the void so that they feel less
alone during winter.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Because you did say, we're coming into summer right now,
some people might be shredding their winter coding. Yes, which
could be an X, could be an X situationship, an
X flame, It could be a completely X which if
you're doing that, that's pretty silly, but you know, it
could be someone like that you've had things with that
you feel comfortable around, so you're inviting them around on
those cold winter nights to have a cup of tea
(12:20):
and to watch I don't know a movie have sex with.
I guess that's what you're into.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That's probably the main.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Fuck here of mine. Love a boy trying to be
romantic running cuddles. Okay, mate, Okay, cuddle is awesome, and
watching them cuddle is if it leads to a poke
in the back, it does, can you that is above board? Yeah?
That's appropriate. Okay, Well we'll find out if it's this.
(12:48):
You'll find out if it's in the episode or not.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Maybe you'll keep it in when you're listening back to
this episode then that if it's on the if it's
on the cutting room floor or not, we'll find out. Anyway,
So my friend was seeing a guy. They broke up,
and he did rekindle things with her over winter.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So he did it. He did it, did he say hey?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
But it was still casual. But it was like, you know,
like wanting those extra winter struggles, having someone to winter
coat up with. I guess you would call hibernate hybrid
eate with exactly. That's way much better, much more better.
And now she's kind of getting the flick.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
He's flicking her off.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well, yeah, because we're coming into summer.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So at this point I'm not from I haven't winter
coated or hibernated with anyone. It should communication be key here,
tell them what the girl is or do you reckon?
Then they might not agree to it.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So you go, hey, do you want to be my
winter coat? I mean, hey, like you sounds cute winter coat?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I don't know. Yeah, maybe someone said that to me.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
My polar bear.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Hibernate with no normal bears hibernate birth don't hibernate there.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
You go, well, you know more than they do.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You want to be my there that we hibnate with.
I mean I would if I was someone was doing
that with me, I'd be quite offended.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, I mean it's so hard, right because like no
one wants to be single and alone in a cold
house watching movies by themselves. So I can understand why winter.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It just summed up my winter, and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You'd loved you and your mum wearing teas on the
couch like you're good.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I was fine.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Do you know? What's actually interesting as well is for
anyone who might be thinking of cuffing, which is like
getting rid of the excess people or like cutting people
out of their lives in preparation for summer. Supposedly, December
of the eleventh is the date in which the most
people get broken up with in the whole year.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's fascinating. It's right before Christmas as well.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
My dad's birthday is it every year? I'm like, Dad,
I do having a good day because there's a lot
of people who ain't.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
That's fascinating. December the eleventh.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I wouldn't pick it, but if you think, like think
about it logically, so maybe on December first you're like, fuck, summer,
summer's hick. Everyone's like, oh, first day of summer. And
then you're like, oh shit, and then it takes you
ten days to really grow the balls to just cut
you know, if it's.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Not the one something like wow, I mean I just
so close to Christmas, like I probably wouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, you don't want to buy an extra present.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
True, and if it's your partner, it's going to be
a good present.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's got to be a good present. And then it's like, yeah,
like if you if you don't feel like you're going
to be with the long term, my last relationship, proper relationship.
We broke up in like November, late November. It was great.
It's actually a great time to break up. Then you
(15:58):
have summer. Yeah, it's like no time to be depressed
in the house.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, you're going out. There's like, you know, day drinking,
summer stuff. Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Lots of events. The events season is here. What do
you have planned for events season? Because I know that
you would be Christmas gurly.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Just the usual going to pick a Christmas tree with
the family at start of December. Yeah, and then just
Christmas Eve with my family.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Normally Christmas Day we wake up with the family presence,
the go to our partners houses. But that's not I
would just probably just hang out or Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I feel like Christmas peaks on Christmas Eve and then
it's just downhill from there.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But that's because you guys have like a specific, huge
chrestivity on that day. Maybe you need to make one
for Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I mean yeah, sure, Like the last three or four Christmases,
I've flown on Christmas Morning to Sydney. This like the
two years in the Gold Coast.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's crazy. Yeah, they like sing Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
On the flight, norry Christmas. It's actually pretty normal, so
we say it's no, yeah, it's actually pretty normal.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So no one's like a mery Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Oh you say mery Christmas people, but you start when
you have you started doing that. No, it's too early
to say that. Too early. Yeah, a couple more weeks, maybe.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You'll start seeing people be like, okay, merry christ.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, merry Christmas. Or when you're like, you know, buy
something mery Christmas.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I would only say to someone merry Christmas on Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'll tell you what I am.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Maybe Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Actually a couple of weeks ago, I got thrown off
because the Christmas decorations were up at the shops, but
so Halloween stuff still because Halloween had n't had so
I was like having like a wigging out because it
was like everything we're not, just like, oh where am
I right now?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And my Christmas snatching pajamas arrived and I posted a
story about it, and that's like it's too early.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Take it down? No, No, because you said it's too early,
and I said, it's spooky season.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Stip spooky season. Don't don't put your Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
To should we go into signs that you are your
partner is winter coating. You tell me they only reach
out in off seasons.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So this is this So when we're talking about winter coding,
and we're talking about someone who's like a long term
like X or like person that you've seen, and.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
They're just reaching out, like we said, to just hug
and probably just have someone during because phenomenally during winter
kind of.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Like a booty call, right, That's essentially what this is,
but a winter booty call.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
But I think it has a lot more like to it,
Like you're not just what's a booty call these days? Anyway?
What do they even like? What is that? Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Like friends with benefits? Yeah? What I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah? And you know, people don't say Netflix and chill anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I wouldn't know. Yeah, what do they say?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
There's a word called sneaky link.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, you told me about that. I got my sneaky link.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I heard it for the first time and I was like, dude,
that's that's not funny.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It is like you're literally thirty, and you're like people
these days don't say this. People these days voice, I'm like,
you're not seventy.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like I'm more talking about the people that are like single,
because if you think about it, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And you're probably dating people who would be gen z right,
Like we're millennials, you're like the last year of millennial,
the first year of millennial, because I'm pretty sure you're
the same year as my brother in nineteen ninety five,
Is that right, with the last year of millennial? Yeah,
the last year of millennial? Correct. So then if you're
dating anyone younger, they're gen z Is that right?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
What do you not want to comment about that? That's
just facts. That's like trying to be all coy and
like private about is like dating life.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Dating is a very loose term what you're.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Allowed to you're allowed to date.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I know.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
But are you just feeling like you just want to
keep it a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Like a bit more cash than datings.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, you're trying to keep it casual.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, dating makes it sound a.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Lot more been married. It makes complete sense. I think
any one who's dating you probably is away you were
just married. Yeah, as long as you're honest and very
honest you say I'm not looking for anything serious.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, I feel like dating makes it sound a lot
more serious than it is.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But this is what I was saying to you. It
just takes one good date.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The next sign is that.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The next the next sign is their communication is on
and off, which I look, I'm not gonna lie. I
just feel like we're talking right now about someone that's
just is a booty call. That's an expression like friends
of benefits not friends of benefits. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I kind of think like if the relations if the
communication is on and off, read between the lines, like
people like like people don't need to people don't need
to like physically say something. You can read how people
are acting, and that probably says a lot more.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
My mate gave a bit of advice the other day.
Actually I don't know why I took it from him,
but I thought it was quite a nice bit of
a beneficial He said, if you organize a date with someone,
you don't need to continue talking to him every day NonStop.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You doing that?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
No, it was just thrown around me because he was like,
you know, you organize the date and then you touch
base of them a day every day like before how
to day going, But you need to save something for
when you get there or else. You know, if you've
been talking non stop. You're just rehashing things. There's not
much new to talk about when you're actually sitting there
in person, and obviously in person, the connection is a
(21:38):
lot deeper than just voice notes or texting. He lost
over here. I just told you to escape some really
great relationship advice.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
We just hit for studios and I can see behind
me it's Jason Laurie's here. So I was like, is
that behind me? And then I was like are they there?
And I was like, where is Jason?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Long Well, for everyone listening at home, Anna, wasn't that
is some good advice.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Never get distracted when you talk. Let's be real, you
always get distracted when it was probably the first time
this is true. Just to repeat that with you, just
so I can just compute what you said.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I said something along the lines of when you date,
so on you don't or going on it. When you've
organized a date with someone, you don't need to talk
to them every day afterwards non stop, to say it's Tuesday,
you go, let's catch up Friday. You don't need to
continue talking to them every day non stop, because come Friday,
what the fuck are you going to talk about? You're
going to rehash things you're already talking about, so you
(22:43):
can touch base with them every day if you like,
like how's your day been, how's work? How is this?
But you don't need to continue that conversation. I thought
that was a good piece of advice. Yeah, by my
thirty three year old single mate who hasn't had a
relationship in ten years, still got good.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't need to have a relationship. Told maybe he's
smarter than others because he doesn't have the heartbreak contral
flight to go with.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
But that builds character.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It does build character, and then you know what you
want and you figure out what you don't want, and
then you're one step closer you're finding the one, or
in that's case, just having some fun.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I'm sorry.
I'm just trying to like figure out what's going on.
Like I'm just doingn't spoken a lot like this week,
I know.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just being mad, Like I'm not
trying to can just be mad, Yeah, and like you just.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Want to be single.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm having a hard time holding these alligators down. The
fun Rick Flair a movie co It's a wrestler. Okay,
they The next sign is they only see you inconvenient
to them. Unfortunately, today's dating world is quite self absorbed.
(23:57):
Many datas, especially those partake in winter coding, only make
plans when it's convenient for them.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, that's it. This is very This is just basically casual.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Dating, casual dating.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
But the thing is, there's nothing wrong with casual dating.
If the person knows that you're casual dating, be.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Open about it. Communication is key, and I respect communication.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
The thing about winter coding is you're going back to
the same person time and time and time, like a
comfort blanket during winter. That's that's so that you don't
need to feel the winter blues.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
That's what separates it from casual dating. Correct rehashing it
with an ex flame, an X situationship an X, which
I sins would be stupid. But you know someone like.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
That, someone where there's maybe like a little bit of
feelings and history. But I always feel like and this
is just like a little piece of advice for me, like,
don't let someone string you along too much. Like if
you're catching feelings and they're keeping it super casual in them,
just be like, no, I'm not doing it, like, don't
play their game, like people who come plain about like oh,
(25:01):
like who are friends with benefits for like two years
and like blah blah blah, like don't put yourself in
that position, Like if you're catching feels after you know,
six months, then go, this is not good for my
mental health. Yes, I like you, you clearly don't like me.
If you did, we'd been a relationships. I'm out. And
then if they don't come to you and say I
(25:21):
fucked up, I do want to be with you, then
they weren't the one and move on to finding your
person if that's what you want to do, looking for
their person, but not everyone is like you're not looking
for your person.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
No, I got an agreement. That's great, great bit of advice.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Sorry. The next one is they prioritize their needs above yours.
Look like we said, this is casual dating, but when
it becomes winter coding is when it's with an ex
flame and they're using you just through the cold months
as an extra the chilli months, as a another instead
of a hot water bottle. They use you. But true, true, lush,
but true, hush for true.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, Okay, Matt.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's all we have time for today.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
This is all we have time for Guys, as always,
send us in topics that you want us to cover,
juicy stories you have. We love hearing them. Send us
voice notes, we'll play them on the podcast. And until
next time, Bye bye,
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