May 13, 2025 • 28 mins
On this week's episode of WYHA, we are waving Anna goodbye ahead of her maternity leave before she is off to meet her baby boy! We also unpack the candle, firework & mirror theory and look into these relationship types & what time in our lives they've been most common. Enjoy x
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's so funny because Michael was like obviously lead singer
in a band, had like long hair, he had a
lip ring. He looks like so different.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It looks like panic at the disco. Literally, that's fall
out boy. No, we can't sing songs. We've got to
pay royalties on this.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Where's Your Head At? Is a podcast that talks full
things right, Hold on a sec, let's give this a refresh. Hi,
I'm Anna.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And I'm Matt, and we are now too newlywed not
to each other. Just a female and male best friend
here for the good, the bad, and the ugly times.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Come get the lowdown.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
This is your male and female perspective.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So, Matt, where's your head At?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Good morning morning?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
How are you feeling today?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm good. We're in for our last bulk record before
you take your maternity leave.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
No, i'm single today. The rings are officially off my fingers.
My fingers, I actually have really long, skinny figures. I
feel like my fingers probably just look like a normal
person's hands.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Now, do you think it could be a hand model?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Could I have a hand model. Yeah, I don't know.
Do you think I could be.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
A hand model?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm asking you, are you trying to give me a
compliment here or what? He's looking at his own hands.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He's like, no, but I could be man's kna he
was for a bit. I'm listening to his book still, Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You love you love a bit of Matthew mcut.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I know I do. He was a hand model.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Is it like self help?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I might have touched on this before. He says stuff
that has happened to him, and then he says green light,
and then he says like it's a green light, like
that's a go sign, like he goes. You know, I
spoke to this the producer, and he said blah blah blah,
green light. And then I I guess in the format
of a book, when it's written out, it looks better.
But when he says that, it's sort of right.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Today, I'm officially thirty six weeks pregnant.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's been a long journey. I feel like I wake
up in the morning and my whole body is in pain.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Like you just run a marathon or something like, Yeah,
just serious workout, which I've never had.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That. No, it's honestly so painful, like the hips, the
inner thighs, like it's genuinely like I'm on a treadmill
all night and then i wake up and I'm like, oh,
that was hard training.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Respect, you're carrying a child, you're carrying wife. Yeah, it's
a tough gig that you've got there.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I'm surprised you didn't say another s name. I was
waiting for it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Ah, okay, I was actually over the weekend thought of
a bunch of them. But now I've forgotten write and
still no.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
One's got the name. How crazy is that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's so obscure of Sammy Boy. Obscure Sammy boy? How
was your weekend? So?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I went to the Loom the Van Go exhibition in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Here is that?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's actually really cool?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Where is it? Is it at the Yeah? Okay, I've
walked past it before.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like there's it's basically this huge
room with all of these lights and his artwork kind
of projected throughout the whole space. I'm sure you've seen photos.
It's pretty epic, and then there's little areas.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I don't know. I feel like I have it feels
very familiar.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, and then there's like little spaces where you can
do like different kind of projects or like artworks. Like
one room there was all of these art kind of
I don't even know what they're called, Like you know
how they have those art things set up with the
chair and then you would go there and paint or whatever.
It like teaches you how to draw anyway. So basically
like every was like sitting down in little rows and
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like drawing, which was really cute. We drew a bedroom,
which was I think one of his pieces was so bad.
I'll put it on the Where's your Head at group
because it's actually like embarrassingly that you're going to be
you're going to die. Michael was really good. He was unreal.
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He was doing like the full like.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know when you draw and you Drawing to me
has never been a skill, has never been something that
I have thought about doing. Drawing to me was just
always so. I remember in like wood Tech in year
nine and year eight, you know, he had to draw
those proper drawings, the measurements. I would in class just
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sit there like pretending to draw, and then I'd take
it back home and I'd say, hey, Dad, and get
my dad to draw it and then I'd bring it
in the next class and yeah, he's awesome. He knows
exactly because my dad's good. I had all the architects
sort of stuff drawing, and I just yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, Like there's a difference between Like the difference between
Michael and I is that like he was doing the
shading to draw a line, you know how you like
shaved down the line, and minds was like from like
point one straight down to point two. Like I wasn't
looking Like.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Have you done the thing with Michael where you have
to paint a bit and you get like time and
you have to paint and then you swap over and
you pass it and you're painting a picture. No, I
did that. So it was like a TikTok thing where
you get a blank canvas and you paint and then
you pass it to your partner and then you keep
switching it over.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well you did it like a like a duel painting.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, and then you add something to it.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, Michael probably wouldn't want to do that with me,
and I'd ruin it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It was pretty funny, Like it was originally like flowers
and I drew like bugs, coming out of the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's fun, it's it sounds good. I mean, I'm like
so into arts and crafts. I think like a couple
of years ago I got into adult drawing because obviously
I'm big into meditation and mindfulness and reducing anxiety. And
someone said that adult coloring in is like so good
for this calming the mind because you just focus in
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all of your energy on adult coloring.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So when we were in before we went into the
villa in Love Island, when we were locked into our
hotel room for seven days.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You were coloring.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I brought a coloring book and Texas. It was a
Marvel one and I was coloring in Avengers.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's really cute.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, well, what do you normally do You sit on
your phone so you couldn't.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Be on movies.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, I watched movies. I watched like fucking I Reckon
thirty something movies I would have watch.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Did that much adult coloring?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well I did. I did a lot, I feel I remember.
I remember I was like sitting there while watching the
movies coloring it in. Apparently I was the easiest one
to deal with my chaperone and told me really because
I just did not care I just sat there just.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Like I think I was one of the hardest. Yeah,
I only they had a double eye on me. Were
you talking about laugh Island?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, I had. I had another person in my hotel
on the other side, so we would have to like
they would have to chat when I was allowed to leave.
Apparently other people like demanding what time they left, and
I was like, yeah, whatever time, I'll go eat whenever,
I'll go for exors. Yeah. I wasn't like I was
just chill ours.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I was more like trying to like sneak out or
like to.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Do what in Fiji? What were you going to do?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Just be free, not be stuck in a room. I
honestly hate authority, Like I hate the rules. I'm like,
I like to break the rules. Cool cat, I'm just
an adult.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I just sat there adult, coloring and watching the American football.
That's like, yes, sir, yeah, like cool as I have
nothing like this is what I'd be doing anyway. He
is everything ready to go for old arms Scoop.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Scoop Scoop. That's probably one of the most stoopy with
Snoopy Snoop Dog Snoopy.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Are you ready for old Snoopy's birth. Is everything ready
we are?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
We have to still build the prem We need to
get a car seat and then pretty much everything on.
I need to get like a baby holder.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah. Right, so you're really you're on the home stretch.
Now do you have it to go back? Do you
have it to go back for the hospital?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I have a baby. Yeah, I have a hospital bag.
I have a baby bag. I have a nappy caddy.
Do you know what that is? No, I'm surprised pretty
much know everything.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah I do. No, I guess I gets a nappy bag. No.
Nappy caddy is where you set them up on the
nappy changing table.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
No. I thought it was like it's like kind of
like a bag, open bag and it's got all the
nappies in it. So I'm putting it in the back
of the car so i can change him in the
back of the car.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah. Yeah, that's why everyone does change it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, so I'm not like breaking your ground.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
No, it's definitely where posy stuff changed, posy snapping in
the back of the car before. Definitely.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Also, Matt, this time last year, I was a week
off of heading to Grease to get married to Michael.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Is that a year ago?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
A year ago. Can you believe that time like literally
goes so fast you blink.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And nah, that's scary.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That is scary because I remember being there like it
was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Same. No, that is scary that I honestly feels like yesterday.
I was like we were traveling to Corfu, we were
even getting there. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's so funny because Michael and I obviously we got
legally married a month earlier.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Right, And so we've been kind of debating what anniversary
all of them, all of them, Well, we didn't do
the legal one, all of them. We didn't do the
legal one because it was very close to my birthday.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It doesn't mean celebrating them. Just have a glass of
champagne for it, or a bottle of champagne. Oh yeah,
well you know what I mean, Like I know, you
have like just like a dinner or something to acknowledge it.
When I say celebrated, I don't mean throwing a party
like you know, I don't mean like, I just mean
like acknowledging it, like.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Acknowledging everything that we acknowledged it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah. I think that's something that I like in a relationship.
It's just to acknowledge all those little things, all the
little little moments they count because in the grand scheme
of things, that's all you've got.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It was pretty cute. Both of our parents actually sent
us a message and there happy legal marriage today or
wedding day. But yeah, we didn't like officially celebrate it.
But we will be celebrating the Greek wedding, our Greek wedding.
But it's so close to the baby's arrival, so maybe
we won't be celebrating. Is mainly what I was getting at.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, maybe I'll tell you what you do. Just just
all right and just enjoy it, just have something nice, cute,
like I was, just acknowledge it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, I know it's funny because like you think, like
it's weird when you're in a relationship and you've been
in a relationship with someone for let's say three or
four years, and then you get married, and then it's
like you have to start from square one, not to
start from scure one. But it's like one year acknowledged.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Like I've said before, I will acknowledge the date we met,
the date we said up.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You can be doing a lot of celebrating in your life,
but I think that's the I think that's something sweet.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
That's my opinion. I'm a sentimental gar.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, I'm kind of like, to be honest, there's a
part of me that's like, I want to book a
holiday when the baby's four months old, just celebrate. I
don't know where to. I would personally love to go
back to grew So I don't know if that's maybe
just completely out of tune with what it's going to
take to have a baby.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Rights the audience. I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I don't know, guys, if you were a mom listening
to this when it was the earliest that you traveled
with a baby is what I want to know.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And I was relaxing over the weekend and you sent
me a photo of a photo, So I'm assuming this
is you charged up by I look at things your
old phone.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah. I charged up my old phone because I'm currently
going through this super annoying phase where I'm trying to
change my name from Anna McAvoy to Anna Staples. So
I was looking through my old phone because it has
my old email in it, and then I'm not very
good at admin, as we know. So then Michael started
doing that and I started looking through old photos and
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I came across.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
This is a photo of This is the first ever
photo taken of Anna and myself featured date back to
I Reckon two thousand and fifteen.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Do you reckon? We were at the Maya Catwalk and
we had a break in the middle of the day.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Ye, And then we all went to like a bar,
a four hour break or something before the night show.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Unrecognizable both of us, to the point where I actually asked,
So I sent the photo to Matt, why is your
eyeliner so thick?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Dude? It was a Maya Catwalk show. It's not something
that I did. There was a makeup to the point. Okay,
So there's a photo of Matt and I. It's first
ever photo that we've.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Taken to it's a group selfie.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
It's a group selfie with like a few of the
other models. It's mainly me and you.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It is mainly us. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And then I literally said to Matt, is that you?
Because that's how unrecognizable you look.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Man, I am a in that photo. That's yeah, that's
that is ten years old.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And I'm wrapping the brunette hair you are.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Look at my phone? How small was the iPhone back then.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Your hand is bigger than the phone.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We'll put this on the Instagram and the Facebook page.
That is a hilarious photo.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
It's a photo we didn't even know that we had.
So the fact that I have somehow found this amazing.
I tried to send it to myself.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Didn't work. Nice phone. Okay, so it doesn't air drop
or anything. You can't I message it or anything off there.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I mean to go back and find that photo I
was deep in, that was deep in photos. I don't
know if I could, or I probably could, but I
don't know if I have the mental whilst pregnant. But
we will put the photo of the photo on our
Facebook page, maybe on our Instagram as well, and you
guys can have a laugh because it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It's very funny.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay, let's jump into today's episode.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
We Love Theories here, where's your header? And I don't we.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Love a theory conspiracy theories?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
No, we're not that sort of podcast, not yet, not yet,
not ever. I was thinking about going and hunting for
the panther, not hunting panther. Currently in like Ballarat and
around the outskirts of Victoria, there's a black panther that
roams around. I'm not going to hunt him to kill him,
but I want to hunt him to find him and
report back. I was thinking about doing.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And you believe that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I don't not believe it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
What makes you believe it?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
There's been sightings of a big.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
There's insightings of the Lockness Monster in Scotland. It doesn't
mean he's real.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's your theory. I think Lockheest monsters. We're not a
conspiracy theory podcast. Let's move one. We love theories though.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I mean maybe the Locknest months who does exist? I
don't know. I've been in that lake on a little
tiny boat and I was thinking, well, if this is
this thing's real fun.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You're fucked. I actually put on a really budget rated
Locknest monster movie the other day. I had to turn
it off. I I don't turn off movies. And you
know that that's how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Must have been real dire, dire watching. Okay, so on
this episode we are talking about the three great love theory.
So you're either going to be the firework, the candle,
and the mirror.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
You're either going to be in one of those relationships
or had one of.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Those relationships, have had one of those relationships. So it's
about people who you've fallen in love with in your past. Obviously,
we love doing this, we love figuring out which one
we are, and you guys can at home as well.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, so do you want to tell us a bit
about these three theories? Anna?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, So first let's start with the firework, the most
crazy one, as the name suggests, being a firework. So
this love is the intoxicating love, the one that burns
bright but fades quickly. So we've all had that relationship,
I think, especially when I was younger. I think the
firework theory happened a lot. Like you meet someone, it's explosion,
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and then next minute like it's over. It's it all
happens so quick.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Super and over.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Literally.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Is that what they called the burn bright, die young? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So it's exciting, it's dramatic, it's explosive, basically like an
actual firework. It fizzles out quickly and often leaves behind
a smoky aftermath of drama and emotional wreckage. Matt, can
I relate?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, I think in a couple of firework relationships, definitely.
I feel like these ones, though, everyone has to go
through them. I mean I say everyone, that's a bit
of a broad statement, but I feel like you learn
from them, and I feel like you better yourself from
those relationships and understand a bit more about yourself and
a bit more about dating. Like we've always said on
this podcast, dating is about learning, and to learn, you
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need to get out there and explore different scenarios and
different relationships. I think it's a very not useful, but
it's something that might seem traumatic at the time, but
you learn from it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I think the firework love rarely works out, and I
think it's good to learn that lesson young Yeah, so
that you can kind of like see that Yes, it
was fun at the start, but it's not there's no
longevity in that type of relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
People mistake that passion for like love and lusters in love.
I feel like that happens a lot when you're younger
as well.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, But in saying that, I've never been in a
relationship where there's not been fireworks at the start, like
you know, like tummy, but have you Yeah, I done
a slow burner.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, I was with one when I was like hooking
up with the girl for like a couple of years
before I realized that she was cool shit can started
dating her for over two years.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's that must be a rare scenario. Yeah, so what
you guys were like friends with benefits. Yeah, and then
it moved.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Into it just it just got more and more like
you know, from every fortnight to like once a week,
twice a week, like go home after going out with
her or go like and then eventually just got more
and more like you know, and the more you talk
and it was like dates, more days, and it just
gradually became a relationship. Didn't work out obviously, Yeah, but
you know you're young. They can happen you're young.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, let's talk about the slow burn one. That is
the candle that is steady but potentially unfulfilling. I've definitely
had a candle before. Let's explain it. So the candle
relationship is what many of us settle into after recovering
from the burns of the firework. This is so true.
It's steady, it's reliable, and it offers a warm glow
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rather than a blinding explosion of light. A candle burns consistently,
providing comfort, and it could potentially burn for a long time.
But there's often something missing, whether that be the spark,
that challenge, or a deeper connection, and then we end
up normally leaving the candle relationship because of that. Yeah, Okay,
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I can definitely relate to this one. I think after
you do get burned by the firework relationship, you can
sometimes just want that you know, good person who you
know stability, Yeah, is going to give you that stability
is going to be peace. Peace, Yeah, that love, that.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Piece piece is so valuable in a relationship. I think
that that is something that is just.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, totally underrated. Like when people say what are you
looking for? No one says that piece.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
No one says they want peace. We all want peace.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
What I do want to say about the candle relationship
is there's still fire, Like the candle still represents a
fire burning. It's not saying it's a boring relationship. You know,
there's still a lot of love there. But I think
you do end up in some cases blowing out that
flame because there's just something missing. There's not a big
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enough challenge for you.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And what would you say to like high school sweethearts
that are still together.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Maybe they're the candle that never blew out.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, I got told the other day that my
house captains at my school just got married. They've been
together for like that's over ten years. Really, that's a
long time. That's like real, Like and they were dating
at school.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, I have a similar story. There's a few couples
actually from my school who have ended up together. You
know what, I think it's really sweet if you're in
love and happy and you meet your person who's your
forever person at school, Like why not, Like if I
met Michael when I was at school, It's actually funny.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Do you reckon though you would still be with Michael school.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
We've spoken about this, and I reckon that we would
have like dated and then we would have gone separate
ways and then found our way back to each other
at the same time when we were like even it's
so funny because Michael was like obviously lead singer in
a band, had like long hair, he had a lip ring.
He looks like so different.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
It looks like panic at the disco. Literally that's all
that boy say a scene. No, we can't sing songs,
We've got to pay royalties.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
We were sitting on this long gust no, and then
I was like literally had like long dark hair like
we literally we put photos of ourselves together when we
were younger, and we look.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Like, well, if you're wearing eyeliner from that photo I
just showed you, guys would definitely be best friends.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Dude, I didn't put that eyelinera.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Do you see this photo? This eyeliner is so thick
with the.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Look from the MYR show. Roll it up with them.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
The last and final one in this theory, Anna, is
the mirror.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So that is the challenging.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Before we start. I've never seen a mirror that I
don't get along with.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Why did you have to say that? Like, I'm like,
I'm not surprised, but you know, it's so typical about
So the mirror is the challenging but transformative relationship. So
the mirror love the one that is the most profound
and potentially lasting of the three. So if I was
going to say that me and Michael are one of these,
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I mean I feel like the fireworks at the start
was me and Michael, but then we moved into the
mirror one.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well that's a healthy transition I feel of a relationship.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, So let me describe this one. This is a
relationship that reflects back to you all of your strengths, weaknesses, fears,
and potential. It shows you exactly who you are, which
can be both terrifying and incredibly liberating. I love the
mirror theory as well, Like I think having a relationship
where you look at someone and you see yourself is
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so powerful because you can grow so much.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I say, or you see someone that wants you to grow,
and you respect and listen to them, and you take
it on and you want to grow with them and
grow together to make the best version of yourself. I
feel like that is a relationship that's the most powerful
and will not break. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And if you can like look at someone and see
their faults and go I do that too, Yeah, and
then you can both help each other. I think that's
such a powerful relationship. So I think if you're finding
that mirror relationship, absolutely cherish it, hold on to it.
It also does mention that some of the most powerful
mirror relationships that we have in our lives are between
the friends and family that we have. There are indestructible
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bonds and they're the ones who you turn to at
the worst possible times in your life and also your
best and reveal your most happiest moments and your worst moments.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I feel like, though, for this to work, a mirror,
you have to be open to criticism from people you
love and not take it as negative and take it constructively,
because I don't think your partner is trying to criticize
you to hurt you. They're just trying to see the
best of you and try and get the best out
of you. And if they are trying to hurt you,
that's an unhealthy relationship and you need to leave.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What do you think is the best relationship, the firework,
the candle, or the mirror?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Obviously the mirror, you think the mirror, Yeah, yeah, I
think the you want to grow with your partner totally,
and I think that if they can bring that out
of you and you can bring that out of them,
that's a positive step forward. And that's it. But the
safety of a candle is just can't argue with that,
the stability and that piece of that candle relationship absolutely,
Like that's just what about a healthy mix of all
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of them? Is that on the table? Are we allowed
to do that?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And why not? Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I mean, these are just apparently the three great loves
that we have in our life. We've spoken about this
is one sery of it, and this is a theory
that each of these loves are represented by one of
these things. Obviously, everyone loves a bit of excitement, everyone
loves a bit of firework relationship. But I think as
you get older you prioritize different things.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I've said this before. There you can have excitement in
a relationship without it ruining the stability of each other. Yeah,
likely there are two different things. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I think there's also a lot to be said about
growing with your partner.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And oh that's what's that's the idea.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, like actually building things together and building your kind
of like life together, you know, buying a car together,
we are all.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Having a child, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, Matt, that's all we have time for guys.
I'm going on maternity leave. We have been recording some
really fun Hotline episodes for you guys, so don't worry.
We will be back next week. But they're just prerecorded
episodes so that I can take a break meet my
baby to know him actually Snoopy snoop dog. It's pretty
(25:29):
crazy to be signing off like this because I don't
know we always go back and say this, but it's
just like so interesting that we started this podcast to
single people talking about our relationships and dating life and
how chaotic they were. And now I'm signing off this
episode saying bye, guys, I'm gonna go have a baby.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's very exciting, mind blowing.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It's actually crazy. But yeah, stay tuned. We have some
really fun episodes planned for you, guys. And the next
time that you speak to me or we talk or
I'm in this podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Studio, They're going to bring him in.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I don't know. Am I going to bring him in?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Am I going to have a babysit? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You should proably start thinking about that sort of probably
should be front of mine.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
My mom is like so excited. So is Michael's mum
of course, so we have the best support system from
both sides of the family. And I think if I
need a babysitter, I don't think I'm going to be
short on I've.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Heard some horror stories about the mum and mother in
law getting too involved. That should be interesting. Just people
in general, tiktoks and stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, boundaries, boundaries, But like if I'm saying I'm coming
in to record the podcast and ask both of them.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
There's going to be no.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Maybe they can fight with each other, okay, but no,
or maybe I can bring him into the podcast. We'll
see it might be a bit distracting.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It should just sleep. It's weeks. It's him sorry, wow Sand?
Oh he should just see C S E A C.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Did you just get the name? Well? Did I?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well there's a picture here and I saw Sand and
see on this screen. That's so funny, see Staples, sand
Stafles sand Staples, Sand Is it actually Sand? I'll get it.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I want to tell you, like, it would be funny
if you did actually get it. That's like like every
time you keep guessing these names, I'm like, it would
actually be funny if you just happen to get it.
But unfortunately, Strike, No, you're off the mark.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't know. No one has got it.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
No one's got it. Guys, Thank you so much for
listening in man. I really appreciate all of the support
that we get from you guys. It does not go unnoticed.
You guys are our where's your head out? Family? Thank
you for coming on this journey with us. Enjoy the
episodes that we have prepared for you, and until next
time
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Love you, bye,
It's so funny because Michael was like obviously lead singer
in a band, had like long hair, he had a
lip ring. He looks like so different.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It looks like panic at the disco. Literally, that's fall
out boy. No, we can't sing songs. We've got to
pay royalties on this.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Where's Your Head At? Is a podcast that talks full
things right, Hold on a sec, let's give this a refresh. Hi,
I'm Anna.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And I'm Matt, and we are now too newlywed not
to each other. Just a female and male best friend
here for the good, the bad, and the ugly times.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Come get the lowdown.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
This is your male and female perspective.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So, Matt, where's your head At?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Good morning morning?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
How are you feeling today?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm good. We're in for our last bulk record before
you take your maternity leave.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
No, i'm single today. The rings are officially off my fingers.
My fingers, I actually have really long, skinny figures. I
feel like my fingers probably just look like a normal
person's hands.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Now, do you think it could be a hand model?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Could I have a hand model. Yeah, I don't know.
Do you think I could be.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
A hand model?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm asking you, are you trying to give me a
compliment here or what? He's looking at his own hands.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He's like, no, but I could be man's kna he
was for a bit. I'm listening to his book still, Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You love you love a bit of Matthew mcut.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I know I do. He was a hand model.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Is it like self help?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I might have touched on this before. He says stuff
that has happened to him, and then he says green light,
and then he says like it's a green light, like
that's a go sign, like he goes. You know, I
spoke to this the producer, and he said blah blah blah,
green light. And then I I guess in the format
of a book, when it's written out, it looks better.
But when he says that, it's sort of right.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Today, I'm officially thirty six weeks pregnant.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's been a long journey. I feel like I wake
up in the morning and my whole body is in pain.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Like you just run a marathon or something like, Yeah,
just serious workout, which I've never had.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That. No, it's honestly so painful, like the hips, the
inner thighs, like it's genuinely like I'm on a treadmill
all night and then i wake up and I'm like, oh,
that was hard training.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Respect, you're carrying a child, you're carrying wife. Yeah, it's
a tough gig that you've got there.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I'm surprised you didn't say another s name. I was
waiting for it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Ah, okay, I was actually over the weekend thought of
a bunch of them. But now I've forgotten write and
still no.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
One's got the name. How crazy is that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's so obscure of Sammy Boy. Obscure Sammy boy? How
was your weekend? So?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I went to the Loom the Van Go exhibition in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Here is that?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's actually really cool?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Where is it? Is it at the Yeah? Okay, I've
walked past it before.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like there's it's basically this huge
room with all of these lights and his artwork kind
of projected throughout the whole space. I'm sure you've seen photos.
It's pretty epic, and then there's little areas.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I don't know. I feel like I have it feels
very familiar.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, and then there's like little spaces where you can
do like different kind of projects or like artworks. Like
one room there was all of these art kind of
I don't even know what they're called, Like you know
how they have those art things set up with the
chair and then you would go there and paint or whatever.
It like teaches you how to draw anyway. So basically
like every was like sitting down in little rows and
(04:01):
like drawing, which was really cute. We drew a bedroom,
which was I think one of his pieces was so bad.
I'll put it on the Where's your Head at group
because it's actually like embarrassingly that you're going to be
you're going to die. Michael was really good. He was unreal.
(04:22):
He was doing like the full like.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know when you draw and you Drawing to me
has never been a skill, has never been something that
I have thought about doing. Drawing to me was just
always so. I remember in like wood Tech in year
nine and year eight, you know, he had to draw
those proper drawings, the measurements. I would in class just
(04:45):
sit there like pretending to draw, and then I'd take
it back home and I'd say, hey, Dad, and get
my dad to draw it and then I'd bring it
in the next class and yeah, he's awesome. He knows
exactly because my dad's good. I had all the architects
sort of stuff drawing, and I just yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, Like there's a difference between Like the difference between
Michael and I is that like he was doing the
shading to draw a line, you know how you like
shaved down the line, and minds was like from like
point one straight down to point two. Like I wasn't
looking Like.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Have you done the thing with Michael where you have
to paint a bit and you get like time and
you have to paint and then you swap over and
you pass it and you're painting a picture. No, I
did that. So it was like a TikTok thing where
you get a blank canvas and you paint and then
you pass it to your partner and then you keep
switching it over.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well you did it like a like a duel painting.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, and then you add something to it.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, Michael probably wouldn't want to do that with me,
and I'd ruin it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It was pretty funny, Like it was originally like flowers
and I drew like bugs, coming out of the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's fun, it's it sounds good. I mean, I'm like
so into arts and crafts. I think like a couple
of years ago I got into adult drawing because obviously
I'm big into meditation and mindfulness and reducing anxiety. And
someone said that adult coloring in is like so good
for this calming the mind because you just focus in
(06:02):
all of your energy on adult coloring.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So when we were in before we went into the
villa in Love Island, when we were locked into our
hotel room for seven days.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You were coloring.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I brought a coloring book and Texas. It was a
Marvel one and I was coloring in Avengers.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's really cute.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, well, what do you normally do You sit on
your phone so you couldn't.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Be on movies.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, I watched movies. I watched like fucking I Reckon
thirty something movies I would have watch.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Did that much adult coloring?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well I did. I did a lot, I feel I remember.
I remember I was like sitting there while watching the
movies coloring it in. Apparently I was the easiest one
to deal with my chaperone and told me really because
I just did not care I just sat there just.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Like I think I was one of the hardest. Yeah,
I only they had a double eye on me. Were
you talking about laugh Island?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, I had. I had another person in my hotel
on the other side, so we would have to like
they would have to chat when I was allowed to leave.
Apparently other people like demanding what time they left, and
I was like, yeah, whatever time, I'll go eat whenever,
I'll go for exors. Yeah. I wasn't like I was
just chill ours.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I was more like trying to like sneak out or
like to.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Do what in Fiji? What were you going to do?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Just be free, not be stuck in a room. I
honestly hate authority, Like I hate the rules. I'm like,
I like to break the rules. Cool cat, I'm just
an adult.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I just sat there adult, coloring and watching the American football.
That's like, yes, sir, yeah, like cool as I have
nothing like this is what I'd be doing anyway. He
is everything ready to go for old arms Scoop.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Scoop Scoop. That's probably one of the most stoopy with
Snoopy Snoop Dog Snoopy.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Are you ready for old Snoopy's birth. Is everything ready
we are?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
We have to still build the prem We need to
get a car seat and then pretty much everything on.
I need to get like a baby holder.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah. Right, so you're really you're on the home stretch.
Now do you have it to go back? Do you
have it to go back for the hospital?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I have a baby. Yeah, I have a hospital bag.
I have a baby bag. I have a nappy caddy.
Do you know what that is? No, I'm surprised pretty
much know everything.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah I do. No, I guess I gets a nappy bag. No.
Nappy caddy is where you set them up on the
nappy changing table.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
No. I thought it was like it's like kind of
like a bag, open bag and it's got all the
nappies in it. So I'm putting it in the back
of the car so i can change him in the
back of the car.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah. Yeah, that's why everyone does change it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, so I'm not like breaking your ground.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
No, it's definitely where posy stuff changed, posy snapping in
the back of the car before. Definitely.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Also, Matt, this time last year, I was a week
off of heading to Grease to get married to Michael.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Is that a year ago?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
A year ago. Can you believe that time like literally
goes so fast you blink.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And nah, that's scary.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That is scary because I remember being there like it
was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Same. No, that is scary that I honestly feels like yesterday.
I was like we were traveling to Corfu, we were
even getting there. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's so funny because Michael and I obviously we got
legally married a month earlier.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Right, And so we've been kind of debating what anniversary
all of them, all of them, Well, we didn't do
the legal one, all of them. We didn't do the
legal one because it was very close to my birthday.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It doesn't mean celebrating them. Just have a glass of
champagne for it, or a bottle of champagne. Oh yeah,
well you know what I mean, Like I know, you
have like just like a dinner or something to acknowledge it.
When I say celebrated, I don't mean throwing a party
like you know, I don't mean like, I just mean
like acknowledging it, like.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Acknowledging everything that we acknowledged it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah. I think that's something that I like in a relationship.
It's just to acknowledge all those little things, all the
little little moments they count because in the grand scheme
of things, that's all you've got.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It was pretty cute. Both of our parents actually sent
us a message and there happy legal marriage today or
wedding day. But yeah, we didn't like officially celebrate it.
But we will be celebrating the Greek wedding, our Greek wedding.
But it's so close to the baby's arrival, so maybe
we won't be celebrating. Is mainly what I was getting at.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, maybe I'll tell you what you do. Just just
all right and just enjoy it, just have something nice, cute,
like I was, just acknowledge it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, I know it's funny because like you think, like
it's weird when you're in a relationship and you've been
in a relationship with someone for let's say three or
four years, and then you get married, and then it's
like you have to start from square one, not to
start from scure one. But it's like one year acknowledged.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Like I've said before, I will acknowledge the date we met,
the date we said up.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You can be doing a lot of celebrating in your life,
but I think that's the I think that's something sweet.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
That's my opinion. I'm a sentimental gar.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, I'm kind of like, to be honest, there's a
part of me that's like, I want to book a
holiday when the baby's four months old, just celebrate. I
don't know where to. I would personally love to go
back to grew So I don't know if that's maybe
just completely out of tune with what it's going to
take to have a baby.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Rights the audience. I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I don't know, guys, if you were a mom listening
to this when it was the earliest that you traveled
with a baby is what I want to know.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And I was relaxing over the weekend and you sent
me a photo of a photo, So I'm assuming this
is you charged up by I look at things your
old phone.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah. I charged up my old phone because I'm currently
going through this super annoying phase where I'm trying to
change my name from Anna McAvoy to Anna Staples. So
I was looking through my old phone because it has
my old email in it, and then I'm not very
good at admin, as we know. So then Michael started
doing that and I started looking through old photos and
(11:58):
I came across.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
This is a photo of This is the first ever
photo taken of Anna and myself featured date back to
I Reckon two thousand and fifteen.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Do you reckon? We were at the Maya Catwalk and
we had a break in the middle of the day.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Ye, And then we all went to like a bar,
a four hour break or something before the night show.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Unrecognizable both of us, to the point where I actually asked,
So I sent the photo to Matt, why is your
eyeliner so thick?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Dude? It was a Maya Catwalk show. It's not something
that I did. There was a makeup to the point. Okay,
So there's a photo of Matt and I. It's first
ever photo that we've.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Taken to it's a group selfie.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
It's a group selfie with like a few of the
other models. It's mainly me and you.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It is mainly us. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And then I literally said to Matt, is that you?
Because that's how unrecognizable you look.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Man, I am a in that photo. That's yeah, that's
that is ten years old.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And I'm wrapping the brunette hair you are.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Look at my phone? How small was the iPhone back then.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Your hand is bigger than the phone.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We'll put this on the Instagram and the Facebook page.
That is a hilarious photo.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
It's a photo we didn't even know that we had.
So the fact that I have somehow found this amazing.
I tried to send it to myself.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Didn't work. Nice phone. Okay, so it doesn't air drop
or anything. You can't I message it or anything off there.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I mean to go back and find that photo I
was deep in, that was deep in photos. I don't
know if I could, or I probably could, but I
don't know if I have the mental whilst pregnant. But
we will put the photo of the photo on our
Facebook page, maybe on our Instagram as well, and you
guys can have a laugh because it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It's very funny.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay, let's jump into today's episode.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
We Love Theories here, where's your header? And I don't we.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Love a theory conspiracy theories?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
No, we're not that sort of podcast, not yet, not yet,
not ever. I was thinking about going and hunting for
the panther, not hunting panther. Currently in like Ballarat and
around the outskirts of Victoria, there's a black panther that
roams around. I'm not going to hunt him to kill him,
but I want to hunt him to find him and
report back. I was thinking about doing.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And you believe that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I don't not believe it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
What makes you believe it?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
There's been sightings of a big.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
There's insightings of the Lockness Monster in Scotland. It doesn't
mean he's real.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's your theory. I think Lockheest monsters. We're not a
conspiracy theory podcast. Let's move one. We love theories though.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I mean maybe the Locknest months who does exist? I
don't know. I've been in that lake on a little
tiny boat and I was thinking, well, if this is
this thing's real fun.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You're fucked. I actually put on a really budget rated
Locknest monster movie the other day. I had to turn
it off. I I don't turn off movies. And you
know that that's how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Must have been real dire, dire watching. Okay, so on
this episode we are talking about the three great love theory.
So you're either going to be the firework, the candle,
and the mirror.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
You're either going to be in one of those relationships
or had one of.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Those relationships, have had one of those relationships. So it's
about people who you've fallen in love with in your past. Obviously,
we love doing this, we love figuring out which one
we are, and you guys can at home as well.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, so do you want to tell us a bit
about these three theories? Anna?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, So first let's start with the firework, the most
crazy one, as the name suggests, being a firework. So
this love is the intoxicating love, the one that burns
bright but fades quickly. So we've all had that relationship,
I think, especially when I was younger. I think the
firework theory happened a lot. Like you meet someone, it's explosion,
(16:00):
and then next minute like it's over. It's it all
happens so quick.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Super and over.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Literally.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Is that what they called the burn bright, die young? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So it's exciting, it's dramatic, it's explosive, basically like an
actual firework. It fizzles out quickly and often leaves behind
a smoky aftermath of drama and emotional wreckage. Matt, can
I relate?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, I think in a couple of firework relationships, definitely.
I feel like these ones, though, everyone has to go
through them. I mean I say everyone, that's a bit
of a broad statement, but I feel like you learn
from them, and I feel like you better yourself from
those relationships and understand a bit more about yourself and
a bit more about dating. Like we've always said on
this podcast, dating is about learning, and to learn, you
(16:49):
need to get out there and explore different scenarios and
different relationships. I think it's a very not useful, but
it's something that might seem traumatic at the time, but
you learn from it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I think the firework love rarely works out, and I
think it's good to learn that lesson young Yeah, so
that you can kind of like see that Yes, it
was fun at the start, but it's not there's no
longevity in that type of relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
People mistake that passion for like love and lusters in love.
I feel like that happens a lot when you're younger
as well.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, But in saying that, I've never been in a
relationship where there's not been fireworks at the start, like
you know, like tummy, but have you Yeah, I done
a slow burner.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, I was with one when I was like hooking
up with the girl for like a couple of years
before I realized that she was cool shit can started
dating her for over two years.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's that must be a rare scenario. Yeah, so what
you guys were like friends with benefits. Yeah, and then
it moved.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Into it just it just got more and more like
you know, from every fortnight to like once a week,
twice a week, like go home after going out with
her or go like and then eventually just got more
and more like you know, and the more you talk
and it was like dates, more days, and it just
gradually became a relationship. Didn't work out obviously, Yeah, but
you know you're young. They can happen you're young.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, let's talk about the slow burn one. That is
the candle that is steady but potentially unfulfilling. I've definitely
had a candle before. Let's explain it. So the candle
relationship is what many of us settle into after recovering
from the burns of the firework. This is so true.
It's steady, it's reliable, and it offers a warm glow
(18:33):
rather than a blinding explosion of light. A candle burns consistently,
providing comfort, and it could potentially burn for a long time.
But there's often something missing, whether that be the spark,
that challenge, or a deeper connection, and then we end
up normally leaving the candle relationship because of that. Yeah, Okay,
(18:56):
I can definitely relate to this one. I think after
you do get burned by the firework relationship, you can
sometimes just want that you know, good person who you
know stability, Yeah, is going to give you that stability
is going to be peace. Peace, Yeah, that love, that.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Piece piece is so valuable in a relationship. I think
that that is something that is just.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, totally underrated. Like when people say what are you
looking for? No one says that piece.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
No one says they want peace. We all want peace.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
What I do want to say about the candle relationship
is there's still fire, Like the candle still represents a
fire burning. It's not saying it's a boring relationship. You know,
there's still a lot of love there. But I think
you do end up in some cases blowing out that
flame because there's just something missing. There's not a big
(19:49):
enough challenge for you.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And what would you say to like high school sweethearts
that are still together.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Maybe they're the candle that never blew out.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, I got told the other day that my
house captains at my school just got married. They've been
together for like that's over ten years. Really, that's a
long time. That's like real, Like and they were dating
at school.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, I have a similar story. There's a few couples
actually from my school who have ended up together. You
know what, I think it's really sweet if you're in
love and happy and you meet your person who's your
forever person at school, Like why not, Like if I
met Michael when I was at school, It's actually funny.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Do you reckon though you would still be with Michael school.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
We've spoken about this, and I reckon that we would
have like dated and then we would have gone separate
ways and then found our way back to each other
at the same time when we were like even it's
so funny because Michael was like obviously lead singer in
a band, had like long hair, he had a lip ring.
He looks like so different.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
It looks like panic at the disco. Literally that's all
that boy say a scene. No, we can't sing songs,
We've got to pay royalties.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
We were sitting on this long gust no, and then
I was like literally had like long dark hair like
we literally we put photos of ourselves together when we
were younger, and we look.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Like, well, if you're wearing eyeliner from that photo I
just showed you, guys would definitely be best friends.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Dude, I didn't put that eyelinera.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Do you see this photo? This eyeliner is so thick
with the.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Look from the MYR show. Roll it up with them.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
The last and final one in this theory, Anna, is
the mirror.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So that is the challenging.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Before we start. I've never seen a mirror that I
don't get along with.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Why did you have to say that? Like, I'm like,
I'm not surprised, but you know, it's so typical about
So the mirror is the challenging but transformative relationship. So
the mirror love the one that is the most profound
and potentially lasting of the three. So if I was
going to say that me and Michael are one of these,
(22:05):
I mean I feel like the fireworks at the start
was me and Michael, but then we moved into the
mirror one.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well that's a healthy transition I feel of a relationship.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, So let me describe this one. This is a
relationship that reflects back to you all of your strengths, weaknesses, fears,
and potential. It shows you exactly who you are, which
can be both terrifying and incredibly liberating. I love the
mirror theory as well, Like I think having a relationship
where you look at someone and you see yourself is
(22:38):
so powerful because you can grow so much.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I say, or you see someone that wants you to grow,
and you respect and listen to them, and you take
it on and you want to grow with them and
grow together to make the best version of yourself. I
feel like that is a relationship that's the most powerful
and will not break. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And if you can like look at someone and see
their faults and go I do that too, Yeah, and
then you can both help each other. I think that's
such a powerful relationship. So I think if you're finding
that mirror relationship, absolutely cherish it, hold on to it.
It also does mention that some of the most powerful
mirror relationships that we have in our lives are between
the friends and family that we have. There are indestructible
(23:19):
bonds and they're the ones who you turn to at
the worst possible times in your life and also your
best and reveal your most happiest moments and your worst moments.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I feel like, though, for this to work, a mirror,
you have to be open to criticism from people you
love and not take it as negative and take it constructively,
because I don't think your partner is trying to criticize
you to hurt you. They're just trying to see the
best of you and try and get the best out
of you. And if they are trying to hurt you,
that's an unhealthy relationship and you need to leave.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What do you think is the best relationship, the firework,
the candle, or the mirror?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Obviously the mirror, you think the mirror, Yeah, yeah, I
think the you want to grow with your partner totally,
and I think that if they can bring that out
of you and you can bring that out of them,
that's a positive step forward. And that's it. But the
safety of a candle is just can't argue with that,
the stability and that piece of that candle relationship absolutely,
Like that's just what about a healthy mix of all
(24:12):
of them? Is that on the table? Are we allowed
to do that?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And why not? Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I mean, these are just apparently the three great loves
that we have in our life. We've spoken about this
is one sery of it, and this is a theory
that each of these loves are represented by one of
these things. Obviously, everyone loves a bit of excitement, everyone
loves a bit of firework relationship. But I think as
you get older you prioritize different things.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I've said this before. There you can have excitement in
a relationship without it ruining the stability of each other. Yeah,
likely there are two different things. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I think there's also a lot to be said about
growing with your partner.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And oh that's what's that's the idea.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, like actually building things together and building your kind
of like life together, you know, buying a car together,
we are all.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Having a child, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, Matt, that's all we have time for guys.
I'm going on maternity leave. We have been recording some
really fun Hotline episodes for you guys, so don't worry.
We will be back next week. But they're just prerecorded
episodes so that I can take a break meet my
baby to know him actually Snoopy snoop dog. It's pretty
(25:29):
crazy to be signing off like this because I don't
know we always go back and say this, but it's
just like so interesting that we started this podcast to
single people talking about our relationships and dating life and
how chaotic they were. And now I'm signing off this
episode saying bye, guys, I'm gonna go have a baby.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's very exciting, mind blowing.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It's actually crazy. But yeah, stay tuned. We have some
really fun episodes planned for you, guys. And the next
time that you speak to me or we talk or
I'm in this podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Studio, They're going to bring him in.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I don't know. Am I going to bring him in?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Like?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Am I going to have a babysit? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You should proably start thinking about that sort of probably
should be front of mine.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
My mom is like so excited. So is Michael's mum
of course, so we have the best support system from
both sides of the family. And I think if I
need a babysitter, I don't think I'm going to be
short on I've.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Heard some horror stories about the mum and mother in
law getting too involved. That should be interesting. Just people
in general, tiktoks and stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, boundaries, boundaries, But like if I'm saying I'm coming
in to record the podcast and ask both of them.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
There's going to be no.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Maybe they can fight with each other, okay, but no,
or maybe I can bring him into the podcast. We'll
see it might be a bit distracting.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It should just sleep. It's weeks. It's him sorry, wow Sand?
Oh he should just see C S E A C.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Did you just get the name? Well? Did I?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well there's a picture here and I saw Sand and
see on this screen. That's so funny, see Staples, sand
Stafles sand Staples, Sand Is it actually Sand? I'll get it.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I want to tell you, like, it would be funny
if you did actually get it. That's like like every
time you keep guessing these names, I'm like, it would
actually be funny if you just happen to get it.
But unfortunately, Strike, No, you're off the mark.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't know. No one has got it.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
No one's got it. Guys, Thank you so much for
listening in man. I really appreciate all of the support
that we get from you guys. It does not go unnoticed.
You guys are our where's your head out? Family? Thank
you for coming on this journey with us. Enjoy the
episodes that we have prepared for you, and until next
time
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Love you, bye,
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