May 19, 2025 • 35 mins
Hi,
This week I am thrilled to be joined by my beautiful husband Michael to talk through our babymoon (we'll unpack what a babymoon is for those wondering) and laughing/crying our way through some of the more unexpected elements of the trip.. Michael and I also answer your burning questions ahead of my birth and discuss how we are feeling ahead of the birth of our newborn.
Thanks so much for your questions and we can't wait to chat next week!
Anna xxx
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wanting to have kids is a huge life decision. But
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(00:24):
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natural verse c section births, strange pregnancy symptoms and everything
in between. Hello and welcome back to another episode of
Where's Your Bump Hat. I am joined in this studio
today by my lovely husband, Michael Staples. Hello.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hello, it's good to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's good to be back. We actually were just on
our baby moon. We were and I think we're just
going to unpack that because there was a lot that
went on.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It was it's never it's never dull when we go
on holiday.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's never there's never a dull moment. Some people do
say that we have a travel curse. We do, You
say we don't. I'm on the fence. I think we might.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, I think. I think in every amazing experience there's
got to be like undercurrents if things go on. So
I don't. I don't believe in the travel curse. I
think all that holidays have been amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Getting locked up in hotel quarantine for two weeks in
Thailand was.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It was a part of the adventure.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was bonding.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It was bonding. And here we are baby on the way.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So here we are baby on the way exactly. Well,
for those of you who don't know, we did go
to Palm Cove for our baby moon. We decided to
keep it in a because I am low on rebella
and basically, before you get pregnant, you're supposed to get
all your levels checked. I didn't do that and then
(02:10):
realized after that my rebella was quite low. So basically,
if you were to get a mosquito bite that has
the rebella disease, I guess then it can affect the
umborn fetus.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, super unlikely, super unlikely, but we felt we may
as well be safe and stay in Os to your disappointment.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
A little bit like I do love to travel internationally,
but obviously Australia has so many beautiful places, and Palm
Cove is beautiful. I obviously I don't want to come
on this podcast and sound ungrateful, but I had ninety
nine problems in Palm Cove? Did I? Did? I not?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The one problem you didn't have was obviously your amazing husband, obviously,
but you had the rest.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's kind of like that thing where they say how
is the baby moon? And I say it was incredible,
it was amazing, but then they say, how really was
the babymoon? And I say, well, I didn't deal well
with the humidity. Yeah, I was itchy all over. My
nipples were on fire. I couldn't wear swimwear and go
down to the pool because I couldn't wear a bikini
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top for more than twenty minutes. I had acid reflux.
I was taking my brows off at dinner, and all
of my clothes I packed were too tired. So I
just wanted to naked. And we've now been to Kn's hospital,
and we've now been to Kan's Hospital for me.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Tick it off the bucket list. I have a funny
story go for about that list, at least one of
the stories. So I think this paints the picture. And
so we're out for dinner one night. Yeah, lovely Italian restaurant, beautiful, amazing,
But as the people started to all join us in
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the tables around, the heat just really started to lock in.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It was humid, very humid.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It felt like it got hotter as we started eating,
and then as we're eating it felt forty degrees. It wasn't,
but it did feel that way. And obviously you were
already itchy. You were already hot. The food came out
and you just had a knough, so you had to
take your bra off at the table. So you come
back from the bathroom with your bra in your.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Hand, pass it to you, and you passed it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
To me under the table. So I had to put
the bra in my pants and pay the bill with
a bra in my pants. And we left early, and
we left early.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, But in saying all of this, Palm Kover is
a really gorgeous place, Yes, beautiful, like the most scenic place,
almost like we were saying reminiscent of Thailand.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, it felt very tropical.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Very tropical. There are crocodiles up there, which we didn't know. Well,
you knew, but I didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, we knew there were crocodiles up there, I didn't.
We didn't know there was going to be a sign
on the beach saying beware of crocodiles.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Do not serve. And so when we first arrived in Palmcove,
we were saying, this beautiful beachfront resort and I was like,
oh my god, I can't wait to swim in the ocean.
No one was swimming, and we were a bit confused.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I sort of felt we saw the marine stinger sign
do not swim stinger season, do not swim crocodiles, but
I kind of thought it was a bit of a
faf like I was ready to jump in, but we couldn't.
We couldn't.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
There's jellyfish everywhere. But we actually had some really beautiful
fun times. It's always nice to get away with you,
and I think that's the benefit of going on a
baby moon, is to spend some real quality time. Obviously,
in our day to day lives, we're both very busy
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with lots of things going on, including our business, you
have work, I have the podcast. There's just lots going
on in some ways, like we really feel like when
we go on holiday, we're really connected. Yeah, very connected.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I always feel connected to you.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I feel more connected on holiday. So take me on more,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, we love we love a new environment, we love
seeing you things together.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Absolutely so Palm Cove was lovely. I think the day
before we were about to leave, two days before we
were about to leave, the baby stopped moving and in
saying that the baby was super active the whole time,
like who was loving Marco? We were like, he's having
a party, he's on holiday, and then he just it
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was like he froze. He was so still. He kicked
maybe one time here, one time there, but normally if
he's gonna kick, he'll kick maybe like ten times. And
once he starts, he kind of rolls and hiccups and
does his thing and interacts and interacts like you could
sing to him, and he start kicking and he'd kick,
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and then all of a sudden, there was nothing. He
went on holiday, he stopped and so on the first
day we weren't really that worried. We were kind of like, oh,
he's just not really moved. And then on day two
he kicked me just then I said that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He can hear.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He's like, I'm still here. We were kind of getting
a little worried. So it was actually a public holiday
in Melbourne that day, so we ended up just calling
the hospital that I'm going to give birth in and
I was like, it's okay if we just come tomorrow
when we come home, because we were coming home the
next day he's just not really moving blah blah blah,
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and they were like, no, you need to go to
the hospital. So we ended up at Cann's Hospital for
some monitoring Lovely, which was lovely.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I had The service was unbelievable. This is a restaurant,
as if they were all so lovely and acting. We
went straight up to the.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Maternity maternity monitoring.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And looked after straight away, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But before we started, like when we were about to
do the monitoring, they obviously put those the devices that
you see people wear where they have like the blue
ribbon and the pink ribbon, and they put the monitoring
devices on the tummy. They really struggled to find his
heartbeat at the start.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Did they not, Yes, which is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
At the time like, obviously, now we know everything's fine,
but at the time, we were both looking at each
other like.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Uh, it was a bit longer than I would have liked,
just a lot longer than I would have had internal
connection panic brief panic, Yeah, yeah, because it felt like
a long time. It felt lot, but I'm sure it
was not.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
As long as it felt anyway. Then they found his heartbeat,
he did some monitoring, and it turns out that everything's
all good with the baby. And we actually saw our
ob yesterday and the first thing he said when he
scanned the baby with the ultrasound was, oh, that's why
he wasn't moving his breach. And we were like, ah,
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because at the hospital they don't do an ultrasound, so
they weren't able to tell that. But now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
He's not just breach, he's frank breach. He is frank breach,
which is pretty much an advanced yoga pose. He's legs up,
head up. I mean, I can't think of the move.
What would it be in a yeah, what would be
a yoga move? It's like a it's like a downward dog,
but up up right, but upright.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, So I guess we've just found out what breach is. Apparently,
I'm currently twenty nine weeks and four days, and by
this point in the pregnancy, the baby normally is head down,
kind of getting ready for birth in some ways. But
our baby is head up and then body down and
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then legs back up straight like straight legs toes are
like it's like right next to his head.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
His flexibility hasn't come from his dad, that's sure, his mum.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, our baby is flexible, they must say. I mean
they're in the womb. Yeah, don't think the womb would
be so claustrophobic. I do think that sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I do think about that.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, it freaks it out as well, like because we
obviously talk to him and we make up scenarios of
like why he's doing things will be like, oh, he's
just having a party or blah blah blah. But we
were once in the womb.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
In his eyes, though, I think it's spacious because he's
he's really pushed. He's pushed out, like he's creative. He
doesn't know, in my mind, he doesn't know any better.
He's in a five star resort. Like his legs are
just kicking back and relaxing.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He's in a water pool.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, when he gets out to the real world, he'd
be like, Wow, it's pretty small. And they're in hindsight again.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Baby don't know what's going Michael thinks the baby is
living in a five star resort his mind. But we'll
go with that because I like to think that he's happy.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
He's got good taste in music.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
He actually does have a good taste of music. He
can hear voices. Now, he can recognize your voice. He
definitely recognizes your singing, and.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's what he really gets excited about. We've played him
some average songs and he doesn't move much.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think he knows it makes you quite proud.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay, we digress.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We were talking about the baby moon. Yes, I think
in hindsight, if I was to give anyone advice who
was about to go on a baby moon, I think
things that we've potentially learned from our baby moon is
maybe go somewhere a little less humid. I think dealing
with humidity during pregnancy is so hard, so hard. Maybe
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a little earlier, go earlier. Yeah, we went start of
the third trimester. I think going second trimester is the
sweet spar.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, because I feel like your your sensitivity to heat
had kind of started that month. Yeah, it all got
a lot worse.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, And I had a lot of people message me
on Instagram being like because obviously throughout our baby moon,
I was super itchy, very very itchy, specifically on my
boobs and like my nipples we saw and so many
people were like, oh my god. In Palmkove or in
far North Queensland, the humidity killed me when I was pregnant,
and all people who live there and they're like, I'm
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normally fine with this sort of humidity, but whilst pregnant,
I couldn't go outside like I was egg on to
twenty more seven. So I think it's just it's good
to know. Yeah, because you know, when you think about
your baby moon, I'm thinking tropical locations. I'm thinking I'm
going to be swimming in the ocean and by the
pool every day, potentially having a mocktail or whatever. And yeah,
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that's not how the cookie crumbled for us, but we
still had some amazing times. What's your favorite part of
our baby moon? Would you say?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I loved all of it obviously, outside of your excessive
inching and irritation around the heat. And the hospital visit.
I think that the rainforest day was pretty pretty lovely
because it was different to the sort of stuff that
we've done before. We went up to you know, the rainforest.
We saw a waterfall, very.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Nature barren falls.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And then, of course I'm always going to say the
day we went out on a boat because we love
we love coming out of boats. Yeah, so probably those
those two days, but just relaxing was nice as well.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I think they're my favorite days. Are going to
see the waterfall, and then we went to this really
cool hippie market right beside it, and I bought this
like big four XL tied I from this lovely hippie
lady and she was like, this is going to be
perfect for you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah. She was here the first well apparently the first
rainforest market ever.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Apparently according to her, we won't fact.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I believe believe it's been there for thirty years. That's impressive.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, okay, so what was the reason that we actually
decided to go on a baby moon? Would you say,
from your do.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You want the honest you would put moon behind any
word as an excuse to go on another holiday if
you could. We've done a honeymoon, a friend moon, a
baby moon. I don't know what's next.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What was better? Would you say?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
They were all amazing? What was the reason we were
always going to try to get a last hurrah y
so to speak, and not to say it's going to
be a last hurrah, like a last holiday before the baby.
There's plenty of holidays for us to come and traveling.
So what was the reason? I mean, that was my reason.
I think you'd find any excuse and I would love
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to take you on holiday where I can.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, I think, Yeah, I think it's a really good
time to bond with your partner. I think pregnancy in
so many ways can be so challenging, and there's lots
of difficult parts of pregnancy, and it was something that
we were really looking forward to throughout the whole pregnancy
as well.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So I think that's the reason why we chose to
do a baby moon. In saying that, you did say
to me, should we go on one little mini last
hurrah for Easter?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah? Locally though where we can drive to a hospital.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, like no more than an hour away, like thinking,
you know, talkie or I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, I'm not sure I've given you my humorous answer,
serious answer, Well, pregnancy is really hard, and I'm saying that, like,
look what as the bystander, I've done nothing except try
to support you and help you as much as I can.
So you definitely deserve a baby moon. There's not enough
baby moons for what you've gone through. It's been tough.
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So yeah, I think it's a lovely way to say thanks.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Ah. Yeah, well I appreciate you taking me on a
babymoon because you I actually I was like, did a
video on TikTok reaching out to everyone being like, where's
a good babyman, and you were like, no, no, no, no, no,
I've got this covered. I'm going to organize it all.
Like you just sit back and relax. So I also
appreciate you, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Taking you to taking me to park Stupid.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think it's like it's a trip that will never forget.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It was different to our other trips, like we weren't
getting day drunk on app rolls and whatever. You normally
drink beer fear of the city.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Like I think in hindsight, we wouldn't have gone somewhere different,
though maybe we would have just tried to go a
month earlier.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
We also went to Port Douglas as well, which is beautiful.
That's where we did the boat trip, and that was yeah,
and it was a bit busier.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
We got the best of both worlds.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
We did get the best of both worlds. Absolutely. Okay, Well,
we have asked our listeners to send some questions in
for both of us as a couple, so we're going
to answer them next Okay, so we have lots of questions.
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Our producer has chosen the best of the best, so
we're going to start with an easy one. This is
for you, Michael. Do you feel like pregnancy has brought
you guys closer together?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, I definitely think it has. Yeah, I think every
every step of the way in our relationship has brought
us closer together.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
And I've always had a ridiculous amount of respect for
the person you are, But seeing how you've taken on
pregnancy and just had a smile on your face through
pretty I couldn't do it. There's no way I struggle
to be sick for a day, let alone nine months.
So yeah, and every day there's a new challenge to
you physically to take on yeah. So yeah, I think
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my respect levels from you were already a ten out
of ten, and well now they're a bit off the chart.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Really, I definitely think I feel the same in regards
to feeling closer. But it's so funny because I remember
when we got engaged and I was like, oh my god,
I didn't think getting engaged even meant anything, not meant anything,
but like I never felt like I would be closer
to you. But then after that I was like, Okay,
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now I feel even closer to him. And then getting married,
I was like, okay, we've hit like the top. Like
getting married, that's you can't get any closer, and then
being pregnant with your baby it's like very different again.
So it has been a big evolution. But yeah, I
definitely think it's brought us closer.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I think too pregnancy there's the these kind of constant
challenges that pop up, and for us, we've been so
lucky they've never been serious challenges. But you're kind of
taking on these challenges together. And that is because we've
had an amazing relationship. We've had a lot of fun,
but now we've as a team taken on these challenges
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together throughout the pregnancy, Yeah, which is going to bring
you close together.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And I think seeing how much you've looked after me
as well as a partner is really reassuring and has
been lovely because you know, it's a bit scary sometimes
knowing that you're about to have a baby, and we
know our whole lives are going to change, but we
don't really quite understand it. And I think because it's
getting closer to the time recently, we've been like looking
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at each other being like, holy shit, is this legal?
Is it legal for us to look after a baby?
Like all of these crazy thoughts, and you know, just
seeing how much you've looked after me, we got this,
think we hope we do.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We don't know if we've.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Got it, but we're going to make it work regardless.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Definitely, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And we have a great support system around us, Like
both of our parents are so excited. My mum's very excited.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
We're very lucky, we're very lucky, amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, Yeah, so I think it's all is going to
be well. Yeah, definitely brought us closer. Next question, are
you ready to hate each other a little bit during
the post part of phase?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, I think I think No, I want to hate you.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I definitely won't hate you.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, but this question is implying that we definitely will
hate each other.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
That the question is implying that it's challenging on the relationship.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, should we talk? Should we talk about our biggest
fight in Dubai airport? Oh, it all happened due to
me being extremely sleep deprived.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Anna is not at her best when she sleep deprived,
not at my best. So I mean, it was not
that big of a fight, but.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I couldn't it was our biggest fight.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, I couldn't find a way to get you out
of your fun, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So. We had been at Dubai Airport for like five hours, yeah,
and I was exhausted. I was so sleepy because I
think on the first light, I forced myself to stay
awake because in my mind, we were going to have
a five hour wait and then get on the plane
and I would sleep the whole way through and I'd
be back on the Melbourne clock. That was what I
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thought was going to happen. Then our flight got delayed
by like seven hours or something crazy after the five
hour wait, and I I've never been so salty. In
that seven hours, we tried to book a hotel, like
in the airport, like I was just fuming. Yeah, nothing
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could nothing's happening.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But I mean, yeah, look, you were a bit difficult.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I was so I was so exhausted, but I found
you a comfy chair. You did find share, which wasn't needed.
And I think when we have kids, just put me
to sleep.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well, I think that in the middle of the day,
we'll get the baby down for the nap and then
put you for a nap.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Be fine, I need to be put down for The
difference is between our worst fight in Dubai is that
I didn't have a bed at least at home when
the baby comes.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think what you're trying to make is in a
past life you weren't at your best on minimal sleep,
but as you evolve, anything's possible.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I'm just I'm not that patient of a person. Actually
feel like I'm quite impatient. That's probably one of my
worst traits. Yes, I want everything done yesterday, bad quality
of my.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Worst trait, get stuff done, true done? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So impatient? Yeah, and also don't do well in no sleep,
which is a concern.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So these are two things you're about to get much better.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
At this is good optionist money.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, hopefully hopefully either way. Back to the question, I
would never hate you, and I think we've already spoken
about this that we're going to be very kind, very
patient with each other as we work through this as
a team.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
And helping each other, like if one person struggling, trying
to step in and trying to be supportive.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
And also just laughing through the ship unintended, the literal ship,
you know what I mean, just having a laugh and
at two o'clock in the morning together.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Putting on some TV like it's really hard, or some
music and we could be in a dream world. They've
got no idea, but at least we're hopeful. You've got
to have some hope.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Plus shake camp, we got this.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I don't know why, we.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Just I'm not sure. Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Next question is do you and Michael have many fights
from your hormones or feeling unwell? No, you haven't had any.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So chill. Yeah during this pregnancy. Yeah, it's really really
like an angel, really.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Do you know what I think? Like in some ways
I've been too nauseous to have a fight.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I've been a better version of myself, So your physical
self has been too hindered to try to pick a
fight with me.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
No, I do feel like I've really been very quite
chill and very really I've been very tried to be
very mindful, like obviously there's no nothing severely bad in
our lives, and I've tried to be super grateful and
remain positive and tried to like bring good vibes to
the baby.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You've been extremely chill. We have not really had We've
not really had many vibes. Sometimes you have this sort
of moment where it seems like there's some sort of
hormone response perhaps where you get strangely irritable or emotional.
But I mean if I was itchy, getting heavier, hot, yeah, hormonal,
(25:31):
I would probably feel the same. But you get through.
It's sometimes only like a minute, Like you'll get into
this thing for a minute and then you come out
of it. Usually I'll just it just come. It just
passes very quickly. But No, you've been extremely.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I do half and puff at the in the middle
of the night, like when I'm turning around with my
stoic I'm like.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I would too. Yeah, you've been very chill, and.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Because you're not meant to sleep on your back, sometimes
you wake me up in the middle of the night
and you're like, honey, you're on your back and I'm like,
thank you, just down to my side.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, you've been amazing, You're doing incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Thank you. Have you guys made a plan from managing
the night shift and will you both wake every time
or take shifts?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So we did speak about this.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
We have spoken about this. So firstly, I'm going to
say that you had two weeks of parental leave is
it called parental leave, and we actually just recently found
out that you actually now have four weeks. So we
were kind of bummed about the two weeks, and now
(26:37):
that we know you have four weeks off, we're quite
excited about having that quality time as a family together.
Some people split it up. We've decided that you're going
to just take the first four weeks of the baby's
life off and just we'll all try and bond and
get to know each other, I guess, and help with
(26:58):
the baby and then with the night shift.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah. Well, I felt that it would just be an
evolving thing that we'll just do whatever helps whoever needs
sleep and productivity the most the next day. So if
we can get to it, like we also don't really
know what's going to happen yet around breastfeeding, how long
that's going to go on for. Yeah, so I think
(27:25):
we're both just going to try to support each other
to see how much we can share the responsibilities to
ensure that everyone feels as rested as possible. Yeah, I
feel like you need sleep more than I do. So
if there's an opportunity for me to help sub in
for a significant period of time in the night or
early morning and give you a long line in the morning,
that's just going to help everyone. So we'll just try
(27:47):
to be a team as much as we can.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah. So obviously I want to try to breastfeed, and
I'm going to give it a really good go. So
obviously I'm aware that I'm going to be needed most
during the night for those night feeds. But I think
I'm also going to try to express milk so that
if there's a point in the night that I don't
want to get up, then you can use the bottle
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with the milk.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Before I am. I'm just aim so to speak.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I think we're going to use our intuition as well,
Like if I'm exhausted to the point of no return,
then maybe one night you'll be the main person in
charge of the baby and just wake me up and
put the baby on the boob. What did you ask
in power class? And she was like, you're the first
man who's ever asked me that question. I'm so impressed.
(28:42):
You were like, so, if your wife's asleep and the
baby's crying, can you just take the baby out of
the bassinet and put it on her boobs?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Asking that question, if that's the only thing that can
fix the crying, then put it.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
On the booth. It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
She said, yes, theoretically, if you could get them into
a comfortable position.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I'm just like, there's too many visuals going ahead. But yeah,
we have spoken about it. We're going to play it
by year, but I think we're both going to be
quite hands on. We're going to try to be an
evolve as we go and as this podcast evolves. When
we actually are in that phase, maybe we can look
back on this moment and maybe laugh, or maybe we'll
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be doing exactly what we're saying we're doing or who knows.
Next question, what has been your favorite part of experiencing
pregnancy so far or your favorite memory?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
The favorite memories are all those key moments, like all
the key scans. Yeah, so when you first first seeing
the baby and seeing them again at twelve weeks where
it actually looks like a baby, Yeah, I think all
the all the scam has been really amazing, exciting and
amazing moments.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I had a little bit of brown spotting at six weeks,
and then we went in for an ultrasound in early
ultrasound and seeing that little, tiny, tiny, tiny heartbeat on
the screen was the wildest, wildest moment and feeling. I
feel like, and it's so crazy because now when we
go in we get to see the baby's foot or
(30:35):
the baby's head, like he's so big now, but just
seeing the teeniest, tiniest little seed with the heartbeat was
pretty Yeah, that was spectacular, especially because we thought it
was going to be bad news. Yeah, and then it
turned out to be just mind blowing, Like what the hell?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
That was really special.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
It's pretty crazy. It is hard to really pinpoint a
favorite moment because obviously that was a beautiful moment. But
I think throughout pregnancy there's so many special moments and
so many firsts, Like we've experienced so many firsts of
things together like that moment when he kicked for the
first time, and then the moment that you felt him
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kick for the first time was pretty cool. And seeing
your face like, what the fuck is in your tummy?
There's an alien in there?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
But yeah, no, there's there is there's It's so funny,
like pregnancy is a crazy ride because there's so many
hard and challenging moments, but there's so many beautiful moments
that you have to be just so grateful for. And
tomorrow we're actually seeing the baby in four D for
the first time, which I'm personally very very excited for
(31:50):
because it's kind of that scan where you get to
see the face. Every time we get a scan of
the baby. He doesn't like getting his pictures take. He
likes the he hides. He puts his hands in front
of his face. He's now breach, so'sanking us.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, hopefully he shows up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I hope so, because if we go, if we can't
go all the way, it's an excellent hour out of
the city. It's called Precious Glimpse Melbourne. And if we
go all the way and we don't get to see
his face, I'm gonna be pretty devo. Okay, this one
is probably the most asked question from everyone, and that
(32:32):
is about sex during pregnancy. Someone says, I'm twenty eight
weeks and my sex life is nonexistent.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
It's been up and down for different reasons.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
It's been up and down. For the first twelve weeks
of me being pregnant. You were like, no, no, Yeah,
I had some I had some reservations.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Some anxieties, maybe some safety concerns completely can cletly irrational
safety concerns about the baby. It's when they say it's
the most risky time in pregnancy, and yeah, I was
a little perhaps paranoid.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah. And then after twelve weeks you were like, akam,
I'm ready to go. And I was like, my libido
has gone walk about. I don't know where it's gone.
I'm like, not into it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, you're feeling sick and in pain most days, it
makes sense you're looking at it to be not as
high as it used to be.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah. The one thing about the baby moon, though, the
best thing about the baby moon was that it kind
of re created that's the right word. What's the word, like, reignited,
reignited our sex life. I mean, the baby moon was
(33:53):
was good for us it's the most that we've had
sex throughout the whole pregnancy. I actually so when I
was reading up on pregnancy, there was a lot of
information online saying how as soon as you get pregnant,
you're so into it, you're like ready to go, You're
like jumping on your husband or whoever you're with. So
(34:14):
I was like, Okay, it's gonna be fun times. And
it's just not been like that for us at all.
And I don't think it. I think that a lot
of people experience that.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I don't think it matters too much. I mean, you
made them in some way, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, if things give, things cool down for a
matter of months, it's not the end of the world,
is it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
It's just funny because you haven't heard the first episode
of Where's Your Bump Hat? But I was listening back
to it the other day and we're talking about how
we're having a lot of sex, and I was thinking,
if only you knew, babe, only knew.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You. So really withdrawn during this question.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Was associated.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
But in summary, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
The time will pass.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
We're having a baby in like nine weeks.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, so baby sleep Let's.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Come back to this question post baby, and we'll see
how I mean, who knows the last four weeks it smart.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Let's not come back to this question.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Okay, Well, on that note, it was lovely to have
you in the studio, Michael. I hope we got to
your questions. If not, it's probably going to be in
the next episode, so make sure you stay tuned for that.
Thanks Sonny, thanks for having me.
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in between. Hello and welcome back to another episode of
Where's Your Bump Hat. I am joined in this studio
today by my lovely husband, Michael Staples. Hello.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hello, it's good to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's good to be back. We actually were just on
our baby moon. We were and I think we're just
going to unpack that because there was a lot that
went on.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It was it's never it's never dull when we go
on holiday.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's never there's never a dull moment. Some people do
say that we have a travel curse. We do, You
say we don't. I'm on the fence. I think we might.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, I think. I think in every amazing experience there's
got to be like undercurrents if things go on. So
I don't. I don't believe in the travel curse. I
think all that holidays have been amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Getting locked up in hotel quarantine for two weeks in
Thailand was.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It was a part of the adventure.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was bonding.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It was bonding. And here we are baby on the way.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So here we are baby on the way exactly. Well,
for those of you who don't know, we did go
to Palm Cove for our baby moon. We decided to
keep it in a because I am low on rebella
and basically, before you get pregnant, you're supposed to get
all your levels checked. I didn't do that and then
(02:10):
realized after that my rebella was quite low. So basically,
if you were to get a mosquito bite that has
the rebella disease, I guess then it can affect the
umborn fetus.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, super unlikely, super unlikely, but we felt we may
as well be safe and stay in Os to your disappointment.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
A little bit like I do love to travel internationally,
but obviously Australia has so many beautiful places, and Palm
Cove is beautiful. I obviously I don't want to come
on this podcast and sound ungrateful, but I had ninety
nine problems in Palm Cove? Did I? Did? I not?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The one problem you didn't have was obviously your amazing husband, obviously,
but you had the rest.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's kind of like that thing where they say how
is the baby moon? And I say it was incredible,
it was amazing, but then they say, how really was
the babymoon? And I say, well, I didn't deal well
with the humidity. Yeah, I was itchy all over. My
nipples were on fire. I couldn't wear swimwear and go
down to the pool because I couldn't wear a bikini
(03:16):
top for more than twenty minutes. I had acid reflux.
I was taking my brows off at dinner, and all
of my clothes I packed were too tired. So I
just wanted to naked. And we've now been to Kn's hospital,
and we've now been to Kan's Hospital for me.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Tick it off the bucket list. I have a funny
story go for about that list, at least one of
the stories. So I think this paints the picture. And
so we're out for dinner one night. Yeah, lovely Italian restaurant, beautiful, amazing,
But as the people started to all join us in
(03:51):
the tables around, the heat just really started to lock in.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It was humid, very humid.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It felt like it got hotter as we started eating,
and then as we're eating it felt forty degrees. It wasn't,
but it did feel that way. And obviously you were
already itchy. You were already hot. The food came out
and you just had a knough, so you had to
take your bra off at the table. So you come
back from the bathroom with your bra in your.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Hand, pass it to you, and you passed it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
To me under the table. So I had to put
the bra in my pants and pay the bill with
a bra in my pants. And we left early, and
we left early.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, But in saying all of this, Palm Kover is
a really gorgeous place, Yes, beautiful, like the most scenic place,
almost like we were saying reminiscent of Thailand.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, it felt very tropical.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Very tropical. There are crocodiles up there, which we didn't know. Well,
you knew, but I didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, we knew there were crocodiles up there, I didn't.
We didn't know there was going to be a sign
on the beach saying beware of crocodiles.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Do not serve. And so when we first arrived in Palmcove,
we were saying, this beautiful beachfront resort and I was like,
oh my god, I can't wait to swim in the ocean.
No one was swimming, and we were a bit confused.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I sort of felt we saw the marine stinger sign
do not swim stinger season, do not swim crocodiles, but
I kind of thought it was a bit of a
faf like I was ready to jump in, but we couldn't.
We couldn't.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
There's jellyfish everywhere. But we actually had some really beautiful
fun times. It's always nice to get away with you,
and I think that's the benefit of going on a
baby moon, is to spend some real quality time. Obviously,
in our day to day lives, we're both very busy
(05:46):
with lots of things going on, including our business, you
have work, I have the podcast. There's just lots going
on in some ways, like we really feel like when
we go on holiday, we're really connected. Yeah, very connected.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I always feel connected to you.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I feel more connected on holiday. So take me on more,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, we love we love a new environment, we love
seeing you things together.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Absolutely so Palm Cove was lovely. I think the day
before we were about to leave, two days before we
were about to leave, the baby stopped moving and in
saying that the baby was super active the whole time,
like who was loving Marco? We were like, he's having
a party, he's on holiday, and then he just it
(06:36):
was like he froze. He was so still. He kicked
maybe one time here, one time there, but normally if
he's gonna kick, he'll kick maybe like ten times. And
once he starts, he kind of rolls and hiccups and
does his thing and interacts and interacts like you could
sing to him, and he start kicking and he'd kick,
(06:58):
and then all of a sudden, there was nothing. He
went on holiday, he stopped and so on the first
day we weren't really that worried. We were kind of like, oh,
he's just not really moved. And then on day two
he kicked me just then I said that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He can hear.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He's like, I'm still here. We were kind of getting
a little worried. So it was actually a public holiday
in Melbourne that day, so we ended up just calling
the hospital that I'm going to give birth in and
I was like, it's okay if we just come tomorrow
when we come home, because we were coming home the
next day he's just not really moving blah blah blah,
(07:36):
and they were like, no, you need to go to
the hospital. So we ended up at Cann's Hospital for
some monitoring Lovely, which was lovely.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I had The service was unbelievable. This is a restaurant,
as if they were all so lovely and acting. We
went straight up to the.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Maternity maternity monitoring.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And looked after straight away, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But before we started, like when we were about to
do the monitoring, they obviously put those the devices that
you see people wear where they have like the blue
ribbon and the pink ribbon, and they put the monitoring
devices on the tummy. They really struggled to find his
heartbeat at the start.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Did they not, Yes, which is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
At the time like, obviously, now we know everything's fine,
but at the time, we were both looking at each
other like.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Uh, it was a bit longer than I would have liked,
just a lot longer than I would have had internal
connection panic brief panic, Yeah, yeah, because it felt like
a long time. It felt lot, but I'm sure it
was not.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
As long as it felt anyway. Then they found his heartbeat,
he did some monitoring, and it turns out that everything's
all good with the baby. And we actually saw our
ob yesterday and the first thing he said when he
scanned the baby with the ultrasound was, oh, that's why
he wasn't moving his breach. And we were like, ah,
(09:05):
because at the hospital they don't do an ultrasound, so
they weren't able to tell that. But now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
He's not just breach, he's frank breach. He is frank breach,
which is pretty much an advanced yoga pose. He's legs up,
head up. I mean, I can't think of the move.
What would it be in a yeah, what would be
a yoga move? It's like a it's like a downward dog,
but up up right, but upright.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, So I guess we've just found out what breach is. Apparently,
I'm currently twenty nine weeks and four days, and by
this point in the pregnancy, the baby normally is head down,
kind of getting ready for birth in some ways. But
our baby is head up and then body down and
(09:56):
then legs back up straight like straight legs toes are
like it's like right next to his head.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
His flexibility hasn't come from his dad, that's sure, his mum.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, our baby is flexible, they must say. I mean
they're in the womb. Yeah, don't think the womb would
be so claustrophobic. I do think that sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I do think about that.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, it freaks it out as well, like because we
obviously talk to him and we make up scenarios of
like why he's doing things will be like, oh, he's
just having a party or blah blah blah. But we
were once in the womb.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
In his eyes, though, I think it's spacious because he's
he's really pushed. He's pushed out, like he's creative. He
doesn't know, in my mind, he doesn't know any better.
He's in a five star resort. Like his legs are
just kicking back and relaxing.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He's in a water pool.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, when he gets out to the real world, he'd
be like, Wow, it's pretty small. And they're in hindsight again.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Baby don't know what's going Michael thinks the baby is
living in a five star resort his mind. But we'll
go with that because I like to think that he's happy.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
He's got good taste in music.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
He actually does have a good taste of music. He
can hear voices. Now, he can recognize your voice. He
definitely recognizes your singing, and.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That's what he really gets excited about. We've played him
some average songs and he doesn't move much.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think he knows it makes you quite proud.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay, we digress.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We were talking about the baby moon. Yes, I think
in hindsight, if I was to give anyone advice who
was about to go on a baby moon, I think
things that we've potentially learned from our baby moon is
maybe go somewhere a little less humid. I think dealing
with humidity during pregnancy is so hard, so hard. Maybe
(11:49):
a little earlier, go earlier. Yeah, we went start of
the third trimester. I think going second trimester is the
sweet spar.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, because I feel like your your sensitivity to heat
had kind of started that month. Yeah, it all got
a lot worse.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, And I had a lot of people message me
on Instagram being like because obviously throughout our baby moon,
I was super itchy, very very itchy, specifically on my
boobs and like my nipples we saw and so many
people were like, oh my god. In Palmkove or in
far North Queensland, the humidity killed me when I was pregnant,
and all people who live there and they're like, I'm
(12:30):
normally fine with this sort of humidity, but whilst pregnant,
I couldn't go outside like I was egg on to
twenty more seven. So I think it's just it's good
to know. Yeah, because you know, when you think about
your baby moon, I'm thinking tropical locations. I'm thinking I'm
going to be swimming in the ocean and by the
pool every day, potentially having a mocktail or whatever. And yeah,
(12:54):
that's not how the cookie crumbled for us, but we
still had some amazing times. What's your favorite part of
our baby moon? Would you say?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I loved all of it obviously, outside of your excessive
inching and irritation around the heat. And the hospital visit.
I think that the rainforest day was pretty pretty lovely
because it was different to the sort of stuff that
we've done before. We went up to you know, the rainforest.
We saw a waterfall, very.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Nature barren falls.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And then, of course I'm always going to say the
day we went out on a boat because we love
we love coming out of boats. Yeah, so probably those
those two days, but just relaxing was nice as well.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I think they're my favorite days. Are going to
see the waterfall, and then we went to this really
cool hippie market right beside it, and I bought this
like big four XL tied I from this lovely hippie
lady and she was like, this is going to be
perfect for you.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah. She was here the first well apparently the first
rainforest market ever.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Apparently according to her, we won't fact.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I believe believe it's been there for thirty years. That's impressive.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, okay, so what was the reason that we actually
decided to go on a baby moon? Would you say,
from your do.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You want the honest you would put moon behind any
word as an excuse to go on another holiday if
you could. We've done a honeymoon, a friend moon, a
baby moon. I don't know what's next.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What was better? Would you say?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
They were all amazing? What was the reason we were
always going to try to get a last hurrah y
so to speak, and not to say it's going to
be a last hurrah, like a last holiday before the baby.
There's plenty of holidays for us to come and traveling.
So what was the reason? I mean, that was my reason.
I think you'd find any excuse and I would love
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to take you on holiday where I can.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, I think, Yeah, I think it's a really good
time to bond with your partner. I think pregnancy in
so many ways can be so challenging, and there's lots
of difficult parts of pregnancy, and it was something that
we were really looking forward to throughout the whole pregnancy
as well.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So I think that's the reason why we chose to
do a baby moon. In saying that, you did say
to me, should we go on one little mini last
hurrah for Easter?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah? Locally though where we can drive to a hospital.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, like no more than an hour away, like thinking,
you know, talkie or I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, I'm not sure I've given you my humorous answer,
serious answer, Well, pregnancy is really hard, and I'm saying that, like,
look what as the bystander, I've done nothing except try
to support you and help you as much as I can.
So you definitely deserve a baby moon. There's not enough
baby moons for what you've gone through. It's been tough.
(15:57):
So yeah, I think it's a lovely way to say thanks.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Ah. Yeah, well I appreciate you taking me on a
babymoon because you I actually I was like, did a
video on TikTok reaching out to everyone being like, where's
a good babyman, and you were like, no, no, no, no, no,
I've got this covered. I'm going to organize it all.
Like you just sit back and relax. So I also
appreciate you, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Taking you to taking me to park Stupid.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think it's like it's a trip that will never forget.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It was different to our other trips, like we weren't
getting day drunk on app rolls and whatever. You normally
drink beer fear of the city.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Like I think in hindsight, we wouldn't have gone somewhere different,
though maybe we would have just tried to go a
month earlier.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
We also went to Port Douglas as well, which is beautiful.
That's where we did the boat trip, and that was yeah,
and it was a bit busier.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
We got the best of both worlds.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
We did get the best of both worlds. Absolutely. Okay, Well,
we have asked our listeners to send some questions in
for both of us as a couple, so we're going
to answer them next Okay, so we have lots of questions.
(17:26):
Our producer has chosen the best of the best, so
we're going to start with an easy one. This is
for you, Michael. Do you feel like pregnancy has brought
you guys closer together?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, I definitely think it has. Yeah, I think every
every step of the way in our relationship has brought
us closer together.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
And I've always had a ridiculous amount of respect for
the person you are, But seeing how you've taken on
pregnancy and just had a smile on your face through
pretty I couldn't do it. There's no way I struggle
to be sick for a day, let alone nine months.
So yeah, and every day there's a new challenge to
you physically to take on yeah. So yeah, I think
(18:11):
my respect levels from you were already a ten out
of ten, and well now they're a bit off the chart.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Really, I definitely think I feel the same in regards
to feeling closer. But it's so funny because I remember
when we got engaged and I was like, oh my god,
I didn't think getting engaged even meant anything, not meant anything,
but like I never felt like I would be closer
to you. But then after that I was like, Okay,
(18:37):
now I feel even closer to him. And then getting married,
I was like, okay, we've hit like the top. Like
getting married, that's you can't get any closer, and then
being pregnant with your baby it's like very different again.
So it has been a big evolution. But yeah, I
definitely think it's brought us closer.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I think too pregnancy there's the these kind of constant
challenges that pop up, and for us, we've been so
lucky they've never been serious challenges. But you're kind of
taking on these challenges together. And that is because we've
had an amazing relationship. We've had a lot of fun,
but now we've as a team taken on these challenges
(19:17):
together throughout the pregnancy, Yeah, which is going to bring
you close together.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And I think seeing how much you've looked after me
as well as a partner is really reassuring and has
been lovely because you know, it's a bit scary sometimes
knowing that you're about to have a baby, and we
know our whole lives are going to change, but we
don't really quite understand it. And I think because it's
getting closer to the time recently, we've been like looking
(19:46):
at each other being like, holy shit, is this legal?
Is it legal for us to look after a baby?
Like all of these crazy thoughts, and you know, just
seeing how much you've looked after me, we got this,
think we hope we do.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We don't know if we've.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Got it, but we're going to make it work regardless.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Definitely, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And we have a great support system around us, Like
both of our parents are so excited. My mum's very excited.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
We're very lucky, we're very lucky, amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, Yeah, so I think it's all is going to
be well. Yeah, definitely brought us closer. Next question, are
you ready to hate each other a little bit during
the post part of phase?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, I think I think No, I want to hate you.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I definitely won't hate you.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, but this question is implying that we definitely will
hate each other.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
That the question is implying that it's challenging on the relationship.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, should we talk? Should we talk about our biggest
fight in Dubai airport? Oh, it all happened due to
me being extremely sleep deprived.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Anna is not at her best when she sleep deprived,
not at my best. So I mean, it was not
that big of a fight, but.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I couldn't it was our biggest fight.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, I couldn't find a way to get you out
of your fun, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So. We had been at Dubai Airport for like five hours, yeah,
and I was exhausted. I was so sleepy because I
think on the first light, I forced myself to stay
awake because in my mind, we were going to have
a five hour wait and then get on the plane
and I would sleep the whole way through and I'd
be back on the Melbourne clock. That was what I
(21:42):
thought was going to happen. Then our flight got delayed
by like seven hours or something crazy after the five
hour wait, and I I've never been so salty. In
that seven hours, we tried to book a hotel, like
in the airport, like I was just fuming. Yeah, nothing
(22:03):
could nothing's happening.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But I mean, yeah, look, you were a bit difficult.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I was so I was so exhausted, but I found
you a comfy chair. You did find share, which wasn't needed.
And I think when we have kids, just put me
to sleep.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well, I think that in the middle of the day,
we'll get the baby down for the nap and then
put you for a nap.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Be fine, I need to be put down for The
difference is between our worst fight in Dubai is that
I didn't have a bed at least at home when
the baby comes.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think what you're trying to make is in a
past life you weren't at your best on minimal sleep,
but as you evolve, anything's possible.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I'm just I'm not that patient of a person. Actually
feel like I'm quite impatient. That's probably one of my
worst traits. Yes, I want everything done yesterday, bad quality
of my.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Worst trait, get stuff done, true done? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So impatient? Yeah, and also don't do well in no sleep,
which is a concern.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So these are two things you're about to get much better.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
At this is good optionist money.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, hopefully hopefully either way. Back to the question, I
would never hate you, and I think we've already spoken
about this that we're going to be very kind, very
patient with each other as we work through this as
a team.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
And helping each other, like if one person struggling, trying
to step in and trying to be supportive.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
And also just laughing through the ship unintended, the literal ship,
you know what I mean, just having a laugh and
at two o'clock in the morning together.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Putting on some TV like it's really hard, or some
music and we could be in a dream world. They've
got no idea, but at least we're hopeful. You've got
to have some hope.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Plus shake camp, we got this.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I don't know why, we.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Just I'm not sure. Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Next question is do you and Michael have many fights
from your hormones or feeling unwell? No, you haven't had any.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So chill. Yeah during this pregnancy. Yeah, it's really really
like an angel, really.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Do you know what I think? Like in some ways
I've been too nauseous to have a fight.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I've been a better version of myself, So your physical
self has been too hindered to try to pick a
fight with me.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
No, I do feel like I've really been very quite
chill and very really I've been very tried to be
very mindful, like obviously there's no nothing severely bad in
our lives, and I've tried to be super grateful and
remain positive and tried to like bring good vibes to
the baby.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You've been extremely chill. We have not really had We've
not really had many vibes. Sometimes you have this sort
of moment where it seems like there's some sort of
hormone response perhaps where you get strangely irritable or emotional.
But I mean if I was itchy, getting heavier, hot, yeah, hormonal,
(25:31):
I would probably feel the same. But you get through.
It's sometimes only like a minute, Like you'll get into
this thing for a minute and then you come out
of it. Usually I'll just it just come. It just
passes very quickly. But No, you've been extremely.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I do half and puff at the in the middle
of the night, like when I'm turning around with my
stoic I'm like.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I would too. Yeah, you've been very chill, and.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Because you're not meant to sleep on your back, sometimes
you wake me up in the middle of the night
and you're like, honey, you're on your back and I'm like,
thank you, just down to my side.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, you've been amazing, You're doing incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Thank you. Have you guys made a plan from managing
the night shift and will you both wake every time
or take shifts?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So we did speak about this.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
We have spoken about this. So firstly, I'm going to
say that you had two weeks of parental leave is
it called parental leave, and we actually just recently found
out that you actually now have four weeks. So we
were kind of bummed about the two weeks, and now
(26:37):
that we know you have four weeks off, we're quite
excited about having that quality time as a family together.
Some people split it up. We've decided that you're going
to just take the first four weeks of the baby's
life off and just we'll all try and bond and
get to know each other, I guess, and help with
(26:58):
the baby and then with the night shift.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah. Well, I felt that it would just be an
evolving thing that we'll just do whatever helps whoever needs
sleep and productivity the most the next day. So if
we can get to it, like we also don't really
know what's going to happen yet around breastfeeding, how long
that's going to go on for. Yeah, so I think
(27:25):
we're both just going to try to support each other
to see how much we can share the responsibilities to
ensure that everyone feels as rested as possible. Yeah, I
feel like you need sleep more than I do. So
if there's an opportunity for me to help sub in
for a significant period of time in the night or
early morning and give you a long line in the morning,
that's just going to help everyone. So we'll just try
(27:47):
to be a team as much as we can.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah. So obviously I want to try to breastfeed, and
I'm going to give it a really good go. So
obviously I'm aware that I'm going to be needed most
during the night for those night feeds. But I think
I'm also going to try to express milk so that
if there's a point in the night that I don't
want to get up, then you can use the bottle
(28:11):
with the milk.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Before I am. I'm just aim so to speak.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I think we're going to use our intuition as well,
Like if I'm exhausted to the point of no return,
then maybe one night you'll be the main person in
charge of the baby and just wake me up and
put the baby on the boob. What did you ask
in power class? And she was like, you're the first
man who's ever asked me that question. I'm so impressed.
(28:42):
You were like, so, if your wife's asleep and the
baby's crying, can you just take the baby out of
the bassinet and put it on her boobs?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Asking that question, if that's the only thing that can
fix the crying, then put it.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
On the booth. It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
She said, yes, theoretically, if you could get them into
a comfortable position.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I'm just like, there's too many visuals going ahead. But yeah,
we have spoken about it. We're going to play it
by year, but I think we're both going to be
quite hands on. We're going to try to be an
evolve as we go and as this podcast evolves. When
we actually are in that phase, maybe we can look
back on this moment and maybe laugh, or maybe we'll
(29:33):
be doing exactly what we're saying we're doing or who knows.
Next question, what has been your favorite part of experiencing
pregnancy so far or your favorite memory?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
The favorite memories are all those key moments, like all
the key scans. Yeah, so when you first first seeing
the baby and seeing them again at twelve weeks where
it actually looks like a baby, Yeah, I think all
the all the scam has been really amazing, exciting and
amazing moments.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I had a little bit of brown spotting at six weeks,
and then we went in for an ultrasound in early
ultrasound and seeing that little, tiny, tiny, tiny heartbeat on
the screen was the wildest, wildest moment and feeling. I
feel like, and it's so crazy because now when we
go in we get to see the baby's foot or
(30:35):
the baby's head, like he's so big now, but just
seeing the teeniest, tiniest little seed with the heartbeat was
pretty Yeah, that was spectacular, especially because we thought it
was going to be bad news. Yeah, and then it
turned out to be just mind blowing, Like what the hell?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
That was really special.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
It's pretty crazy. It is hard to really pinpoint a
favorite moment because obviously that was a beautiful moment. But
I think throughout pregnancy there's so many special moments and
so many firsts, Like we've experienced so many firsts of
things together like that moment when he kicked for the
first time, and then the moment that you felt him
(31:15):
kick for the first time was pretty cool. And seeing
your face like, what the fuck is in your tummy?
There's an alien in there?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
But yeah, no, there's there is there's It's so funny,
like pregnancy is a crazy ride because there's so many
hard and challenging moments, but there's so many beautiful moments
that you have to be just so grateful for. And
tomorrow we're actually seeing the baby in four D for
the first time, which I'm personally very very excited for
(31:50):
because it's kind of that scan where you get to
see the face. Every time we get a scan of
the baby. He doesn't like getting his pictures take. He
likes the he hides. He puts his hands in front
of his face. He's now breach, so'sanking us.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, hopefully he shows up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I hope so, because if we go, if we can't
go all the way, it's an excellent hour out of
the city. It's called Precious Glimpse Melbourne. And if we
go all the way and we don't get to see
his face, I'm gonna be pretty devo. Okay, this one
is probably the most asked question from everyone, and that
(32:32):
is about sex during pregnancy. Someone says, I'm twenty eight
weeks and my sex life is nonexistent.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
It's been up and down for different reasons.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
It's been up and down. For the first twelve weeks
of me being pregnant. You were like, no, no, Yeah,
I had some I had some reservations.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Some anxieties, maybe some safety concerns completely can cletly irrational
safety concerns about the baby. It's when they say it's
the most risky time in pregnancy, and yeah, I was
a little perhaps paranoid.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah. And then after twelve weeks you were like, akam,
I'm ready to go. And I was like, my libido
has gone walk about. I don't know where it's gone.
I'm like, not into it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, you're feeling sick and in pain most days, it
makes sense you're looking at it to be not as
high as it used to be.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah. The one thing about the baby moon, though, the
best thing about the baby moon was that it kind
of re created that's the right word. What's the word, like, reignited,
reignited our sex life. I mean, the baby moon was
(33:53):
was good for us it's the most that we've had
sex throughout the whole pregnancy. I actually so when I
was reading up on pregnancy, there was a lot of
information online saying how as soon as you get pregnant,
you're so into it, you're like ready to go, You're
like jumping on your husband or whoever you're with. So
(34:14):
I was like, Okay, it's gonna be fun times. And
it's just not been like that for us at all.
And I don't think it. I think that a lot
of people experience that.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I don't think it matters too much. I mean, you
made them in some way, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, if things give, things cool down for a
matter of months, it's not the end of the world,
is it.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
It's just funny because you haven't heard the first episode
of Where's Your Bump Hat? But I was listening back
to it the other day and we're talking about how
we're having a lot of sex, and I was thinking,
if only you knew, babe, only knew.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You. So really withdrawn during this question.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Was associated.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
But in summary, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
The time will pass.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
We're having a baby in like nine weeks.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, so baby sleep Let's.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Come back to this question post baby, and we'll see
how I mean, who knows the last four weeks it smart.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Let's not come back to this question.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Okay, Well, on that note, it was lovely to have
you in the studio, Michael. I hope we got to
your questions. If not, it's probably going to be in
the next episode, so make sure you stay tuned for that.
Thanks Sonny, thanks for having me.
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