July 7, 2025 • 33 mins
Hi,
In this special season finale of WYBA, I'm joined by my beautiful husband Michael to reflect on my pregnancy, talk through how we're preparing at the very end of my pregnancy and some predictions about our parenting and our little bub.
Thank you for your overwhelming support on this season of Where's Your Bump At?, recording this series has been a dream of mine for so long now and I couldn't be more blessed to have created this incredible community.
We're off to have this baby and we'll keep you posted on what happens after! All my love,
Anna xxx
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wanting to have kids is a huge life decision. But
once you're ready to embark on that journey, what do
you actually need to know? This podcast is the community
you never knew you needed from mums and mums to be.
We're about to embark on this learning journey together and
it's going to be real. It's going to be raw
and a completely non judgmental space. You're listening to Where's
(00:24):
your Bump Hat and this is Ana Macavoy Staples. I'm
going to be interviewing experts in the field so that
all of our burning questions can be answered, from understanding
our cycle to knowing what is the best time to conceive,
and so much more. We'll get into the difference between
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natural verse c section births, strange pregnancy symptoms and everything
in between. Hello, and welcome back to our final episode
of Where's Your Bumpat. My name is on a maca
Voice Staples, and I'm joined today by my lovely husband Michael. Hello,
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I'm back. He's back. He was here for the first episode.
You came in for the middle kind of episodes and
now we are clocking off. And what a journey, what
what a journey pregnancy has been the craziest I don't
want to say activity, but the craziest thing I've ever
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participated in activity. I don't know what to call it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's a it's an experience, for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's been a real experience. Yeah, some thirty seven weeks today,
and I think I've pushed recording this podcast out was
long as physically possible. But I think as of the weekend,
I would say Saturday, I've genuinely thought I was coming
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back to labor every single day, which I don't know.
I'm probably not, but I think because it's my first
pregnancy and I'm just getting all of these crazy symptoms,
like my hips hurt, my inner thighs hurt. I don't
want to come on here and complain, but basically everything,
I feel like I'm eighty years old. That's how my
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body feels, which I don't know if I was really
expecting that, Like I didn't really you know, like I
wake up in the morning and my hands just I
can't even straighten them out.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, Like rolling over in bed is quite.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
A process, guys. Okay, if you're pregnant and you're close
to the end of the pregnancy, it takes me through
business days to roll over in bed from one side,
so it's from my left side all the way over
to my right side. Is the most painful experience ever.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
If I wake up mid roll, I sort of help
you with the last, sort of.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Give me a little bit, but it's so painful. Like
I think that you even might think I'm overplaying, but
I wouldn't be ever played because it in the middle
of the It's the middle of the night, Like, who
could be bothered putting on a charade.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think that you think that I'm maybe not really
seeing and feeling all the symptoms you are, But I
just I try to make light of the symptoms to
try to keep things a bit upbeat, Like I know
you're doing it tough at.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
This point, Yeah, it is. I am doing it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
There's no way I could do it. I could not
do it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You could do it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
The rolling in the middle of the night. That's the
most hidden secret of pregnancy. I would say I've had
no one talk about. And I know I'm not alone
because I've asked people, Like when saw my osteomeg and
I was like, oh my god, what's happening. She's like, Oh,
that's pelvic girdle pain. I think it's called and totally
normal at the end of pregnancy. I've seen my acupuncturist.
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You know, I have a team of people trying to
help me with pregnancy. Team. I'm having a pregnancy massage as
you should.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, I couldn't do it. I genuinely couldn't do it.
What you've done is amazing. Thank you, well done.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
We saw our ob yesterday. We got some injections.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
We did.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You got your injections?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Why is that funny? Because I made a joke. I
just feel it was a joke. It was I can't
believe the struggle that I'm having to go through in
this pregnancy because I had to get two little needles.
But it was obviously a joke.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, you got the hooping cough and the flu. Obviously
the baby's being born in winter, so those were recommended.
And then I got I've already had those two, but
I also got the RSV vaccine and I feel good.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
On the other hand, the.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Army saw, you know what, the hoop pregnancy is really
start to take its toll on them.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The hooping cough has tennis in it, so yeah, it
gives you that real sore, like it's just been punched. Yeah,
but we got measurements done. Do you want to talk
us through babies?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I do love my numbers.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You do love your number.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So it's all algorithm based. Keep in mind, so the
predicted current weight is two point nine, which would mean
the predicted birth weight would be over four kilograms, which
is on the larger side but not huge. So what
it's based on is the measurement of the stomach is
in the ninetieth percentile, and the overall average measurement of
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the stomach, the head, and the thigh is the sixty
fifth percentile.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, and keeping in mind, our obi was like, we
measured the head, the head is like six to sixtieth percentile,
but he reckons that they're under measuring that. And then
because the baby is unfortunately still in the breach position,
his little legs are all bent, so they couldn't really
measure his lafe.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, but that's where he wants his legs to be.
He's not uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, but they think that's an underprediction because obviously if
his stomach is in the ninetieth percentile, that means the
baby's like in the top ten percent of the population,
the top biggest how did you describe it at the top.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You wouldn't say top ten percent.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
But like not in the top ten percent, but he's
the biggest.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Out of ten babies, out of one hundred babies, he'd
be in the top ten biggest babies.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
In his stomach. Yeah, so that's our predictions. Have we
told the podcast how much we weighed at birth? We
know him pounds, We.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Might have told them at the start.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, should we go over that again, because I feel
like it's pretty I was.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I was ten pounds ten, which is.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Very large, very large. If you know power measurements. Ten
pound ten is like the top like two percent of
the babies, Like, it's huge. And then I was a
nine pound baby, So obviously I was like slightly concerned
knowing that Michael and I were both huge babies. But
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from what they're saying, the baby's going to be like
an eight pound or nine pound baby. So we'll see.
We should we actually we're going to hold the predictions,
but at the end of this episode, we will be
making predictions on the baby and how we're going to
parent and all things like that. So I'm actually really
excited for that. Let's talk about how we're feeling. Because
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the baby is going to be born in around two weeks,
two to three weeks, how are you feeling about becoming
a dad?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I feel good about it. It is still really hard
to fully conceptualize what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, it's hard, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's such a strange feeling because obviously you've got all
the time when you're in conversation as a couple that
you want to eventually have kids, and then nine months
of a pregnancy to kind of mentally prepare for it.
And I feel one hundred percent prepared for it and
excited for it, but still that idea of bringing a
baby home in a couple of weeks time potentially and
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just having this other member of the household, which is
the say of us, which would be amazing. But it's
just it's really strange to fully see that until I
guess it actually happens.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's really hard to conceptualize what that looks like. And
I think nine months. I've always thought that's a really
long time to be pregnant, but in some ways I
feel like it's not been long enough. I need another
year to really wrap my head around this. You said,
do you feel prepared? I don't really feel prepared, Like
I feel like with all the stuff, like we have
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the stuff that we need to have a baby, but
I feel so underprepared to look after a newborn, Like
I'm not sure if it's quite legal because I don't
have any qualifications. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I think that most people the first time, they're just
we've got you know, we've got a really good support
network and so that we'll get some help along the way. Yeah,
we'll figure it out day by day.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. Both of our parents are extremely excited, and I
think they're going to be such a good help. But
I'm just like, yeah, like I just can't quite even
though obviously I know the baby's coming. And I don't
know if you guys can relate to this feeling, but
it's just really hard to wrap my head around. And
I know people say, like, when the baby comes, you
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can't remember your life without them, but right now, it's
like really hard to picture us with a baby.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, you know, yeah I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And I'm sure we're gonna listen back to this if
we do it. Where's your bump? At Season two? Fulle
and fingers crossed and probably laugh at us saying this.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be cool.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Though, it's gonna I'm excited. I'm very excited. But it's
also like for someone who loves change, even for me,
this is like a lot of change.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's a big change.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's a big change. It's an irreversible change. Yeah, not
that I want it to be reversal, but I'm just saying, like, who,
we're excited. We got this, we got this. I think
now's the time to talk about this. M it's a
little bit more on the serious spectrum of things, and
it's postpartum. We've spoken between ourselves about postpartum and kind
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of looking out for signs and just really being connected
and looking out for each other and making sure each
other is okay. But I really wanted to bring up
some of the stats around dads who get postpartum. So
one and and fathers experience postpartum depression or anxiety when
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a baby is born. So this condition is also known
as paternal postpartum depression and can manifest with similar symptoms
of maternal postpartum. So obviously those statistics are pretty high.
How are we going to navigate that and how do
you even feel about just hearing those statistics.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I mean it's always hard to hear statistics that
around mental health for anyone, and it's it's hard for
anyone going through mental health. You know, hopefully they can
find a way through it. I think, like any mental health,
it's just all about checking in on yourself and checking
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in on each other because you never know when it's
going to arise, so it's hard to prepare for. But
definitely it's just about you know, checking it on yourself,
checking in on each other, checking in on your friends.
And you know, I'm super lucky personally that I've got
a lot of good people around me, so yeah, checking in.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, we'll definitely be doing a lot of checking in
with each other.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You also get a month of paternity leave, so we're
going to really be adjusting to this new life and
person together, getting to know him and love on him.
But we're also going in very eyes open that you know,
both of our mental health could be challenged, and I
think just being aware of that and knowing that it's
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a potential and not being naive and saying that's not
going to happen to us, because we just never.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Know agree with that. I think, yeah, just all about
looking after the people you care about and checking in
on them.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Okay, Mike, what type of parent do you think that
you're going to be.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I think the easiest answer to that is I have
no idea, because, like any major change in life, you're
just going to adapt as things happen, you know. I'd
like to think that, well, I'd like to think this
is how I will be that I'll be keen on
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creating a level of I think I'll be the structure
and rules, but also like fun within that. Yeah, I
think if we can try our best to just be
good guidance while also hopefully you know, being there to
have a lot of fun along the way, and that'd
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be great.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, I agree. I think I don't know. I've actually
I went on a podcast recently and the girls we're
saying like, they're like that we don't know how it happens,
but you end up kind of modeling your parenting on
how you were parented, even if it's something you were like,
I never want to be like my parents, and then
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as your parent, you see like little parts even if
it's even if you don't want to be like your
parents at all, and you actively try to not be
like them. They could be like some things that you
do and you're like, oh, that reminds me of my parents.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That is funny. I like the way my parents parented.
They did a pretty good job.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, no, same, I think I just don't want to
be the disciplinarian. But I'm also like so aware that
you know, kids need structure rules. Yeah, but I wouldn't
you to be like obviously when he's older, if he
does something wrong, it's like, go see dad. But it's
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probably not going to work out like that. I'm so
aware that it's probably going to be me. It's going
to be probably just a mix.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Right. I remember when my dad would say to me
I'm disappointed it was, it would hit home. It would
definitely hit home when he would say it, and he
wouldn't say it in an angry way. He would just
say it in the most calm, sort of dead pan way,
and it did hit home. So hopefully I've got the
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same power.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Is that your vibe of what you're going to do look?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, And now actually I'm thinking of more things to say,
because how you want to act is not necessarily how
you're capable of acting. We know that emotions always get
in the way of things. I'd like to think that
I'm like a really calm person you are, But I've
also never been a parent before, So I'm not going
to come on here as someone that has not parented
and preach to potential parents about how to stay calm
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during parenting, because you know, I've obviously seen how kids, babies,
toddlers can act, and that is really challenging stuff, like
super challenging stuff, and probably the sort of challenges that
my emotions haven't had to deal with. But I'd like
to hope that I can stay really calm, and that's
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that's what I'm aim to do, stay calm and then
just try to guide and not be too reactive. Funny thing,
do we come back to this in like a couple
of years time.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
We definitely coming back to this way sooner than that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think it's really good to have like aspirations and goals,
but they're not be so hard on yourself. Yeah when
because we're human, right, We're going to make mistakes. So
is it possible to stay calm as a parent one
hundred percent of the time? Probably not, But I'm going
to definitely. I'm going to certainly do my best.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's just funny because you are the most calm person
that I've ever met, which is one of the things
I love so dearly about you. But me, on the
other hand, I'm not calm at all.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I would like to be.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You've calmed me down. I would say, I.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Think that you have really calmed and I've not had
any parent that You've made people make their own decisions
I think, and how they want to act. You've calmed
down over the last few years a lot. Yeah, you've
definitely calm.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And I don't want to ramp back up.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You've definitely come significantly while being pregnant, which is often
the well, like I'm just talking about cliches here, of course,
but obviously the cliches is sometimes being quite irritable and
not calm when pregnant.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Would you agree with that, I'm so calm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You're so calm pregnant.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We had like a really important business meeting the other day,
and normally in meetings like that with like such pressure,
I would say I would be like panicking, freaking out,
like going over everything. I was the calmest person in
the room. I had zero fucks were given by me.
I was like, who am I?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, I'd agree with that. So what do you, I mean,
what are you going to aim to be? Like? Obviously
I think would you hope to be?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like I think that I really need to work on
my patients.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I would agree with that, Like.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I like, sometimes if you say a story that goes
for too long, let's go.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm an amazing storyteller, So I'd hate to think, so, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Need to work on my patients. I do feel really calm.
I've felt calm this whole pregnancy, just maintaining that. Really.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Do you know what's funny? I think any parents listening
to this and are saying we're going to be calm
and patient, They're like, you just wait, just wait.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Our biggest fight that we've ever had, We've had a fight.
The biggest fight I can recall was when we just
went to Europe. We were on the way back Dubai Airport,
the Dubai Airport fight, and basically I had pushed myself
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to stay awake even although it was meant to be
like nighttime, like it was meant to be my sleep time,
so I'd like stayed up kind of like for eight hours,
and then in my mind, we want to go straight
onto the flight. And then I was going to sleep
the whole time. And I literally as soon as I
get on a flight, I'm knocked out right, Like I
just sleep the whole time. I'll sleep ten hours on
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a flight, which I would not do in my bed,
but because I know I'm on a flight, I'm like,
send myself to sleep. And then the flight was delayed
by six hours, and that was I was not in
a good mental stage.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You're not good without sleep. But it's all about.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Change the dialogue anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
It's just the only reason I'm bringing this fight up
is because the worst fight we've ever had was.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It was just you.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
But like what I'm saying is is it was when
I was deeply sleep deprived, and so knowing that we're
going into a state of sleep deprivation, I just really
hope and pray for a better version of myself.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's let me to say, I think you're perfect the
way you are, and you'll do your best and that's
all that matters.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Thanks Anny. Okay, what is the weirdest symptom that I
have had? Being pregnant that you've been like, whoa, that's
a lot, because I feel like there's so many if.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
That's some really, do you mean throughout the whole pregnancy. Yeah,
I mean the thing that springs to mind the most
was when we're on It's not really the weirdest, but
when we're on our baby moon, you were the itchiest
person on planet Earth for about all weeks, Like everything
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was itching you, clothing, heat, you were just so itchy
for a week. That's probably the thing that stands out
the most. But yeah, it's hard to pinpoint one. I
feel like each day you're feeling and experiencing something new,
and we're just saying what does this all mean? And
we're just trying to figure it out day by day.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We went on a baby man, and all I wanted
to do was be in my bikini at the beach.
Oh no, I've been a bikini at the pool and
I literally couldn't put on my bikini. I think the
weirdest moment that we've had, and again, like it's not weird,
but it's just like a really interesting symptom was when
the milk came out and we were.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Like, oh yeah, yeah, that was like, oh wow, this
is the real deal.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Definitely pregnant, the bright yellow milk, and we were like,
oh my god. Yeah, obviously I've gone through a million
changes physically, emotionally, just all the things. Really, but how
has pregnancy been for you as my husband, as the
dad watching alongside.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
That's difficult to answer. I mean for me, honestly, I
haven't really had to do anything that I don't naturally
want to do, which is just care for you and
look after you as much as I can. You know,
it is hard seeing life be a little bit more
challenging for you. Definitely, Yeah, But yeah, I can't say
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that I've had to go through any sort of real
day to day challenges throughout your pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Has it been hard for you because obviously, like on
weekends we go have some app rolls and you know,
have Kingfish Civic Chain, and there's so much we can't
do that we used to be able to do fun things.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well. Yeah, but in saying that, it's been, like, it's
pretty amazing. Like every week or so, you've got another
scan you're seeing like the baby develop your you know,
it's going through a lot of positive changes and the
baby's growing and you're growing, and it's kind of you're
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going through milestones every couple of weeks. Which when can
you say that like in your day to day life.
So no, I only can, Like, I'm only gonna I mean,
look back on this with just all those positive memories.
Hopefully the nauseousness and all the pains and aches will
slowly be forgotten over the next six months, and I
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would just say that we'd look back on it as
like such a beautiful time in our lives.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I think, So, what's your top three best moments of
this pregnancy if you had to rank?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, so that first that first scan when so maybe
the twelve thirteen week scan when they first look like
a baby, Yeah, and you're like, wow, this is this
is incredible. Telling our families was pretty amazing day. Actually,
that was a couple of days that we told our
families over that was that was really amazing. Oh, there's
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actually there's actually so many Hearing the heartbeat for the
first time, which was kind of that was actually like
six or seven.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Weeks and I was having some bleeding, so we were concerned.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, we were we were really worried. Yeah, that morning,
and then to hear the heartbeat that afternoon was amazing. Yeah,
they're the first three that have jumped out. What about you?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Obviously finding out has to be number one. That was
so cool, especially after like doing lots of negative tests
and then it was finally a positive and we were like,
oh my God. Definitely telling our families. And then I
think seeing the four D scan, seeing his little face
and in the four D scan he like grabbed his
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own foot and put it in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Unique.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It was just really cool and I think like it
made it feel really real, like.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
A proper little boy.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
There's a human in there, not an alien. Michael, have
you ever heard of Covede syndrome.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I have not heard of Covede syndrome.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Covede syndrome is also called sympathetic pregnancy, which I think
that you might have had during this pregnant I'm not
coughing this. So it is a proposed condition in which
an expectant father experiences some of the same symptoms and
behaviors as his pregnant wife.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So you're talking about the tiredness, but I would go
as far as saying that we have had probably the
busiest year of our lives while being pregnant. We've been
so much work, all this stuff going on with the business,
all these other ventures happening, and the pregnancy and pregnancy admin.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And then I added where's your So it's just.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Been kind of non non stop. I honestly felt that
we haven't really not stopped for six months, and I've
occasionally been tired. And now you're trying to throw coved
I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It's sleeping in the studio, guys. No, I feel like
so expecting dads can often have a bit of weight gain,
altered hormonal levels, morning nausea, disrupted sleep. I'm not saying, but.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You've You've just named three things I haven't had.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
All I'm saying is all I'm saying is sometimes I'll
be like, oh, I've got to sow back like yeah,
me too, or I'll be like I feel like nauseous
and you're like same.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I'm not waking up. I have been waking up to
go to the toilet in the middle of the night, however,
which is a new thing. I think that is because
you wake up in the middle of the night to
go to the toilet, which wakes me up, and then
I'm kind of like, fomo, you know why not may
as well go.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
To covede syndrome. That is, it's a scientific thing, it's
a real syndrome. It's like, you're such an EmPATH. You're
such an empathetic person that you're like, I also feel
what you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I don't know what you're feeling. Looks hot like, looks
like real, real challenges and if.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You've had just just like the rain, I feel amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I feel absolutely incredible. Thanks for asking.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Next question, Okay, so should we make some predictions? That's
pretty so on the first episode of Where's'll Bump Out,
we made some predictions and then we got to listen back,
or I listened back, and it was really cool listening
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back because I was like, we have to do this again.
So the first one, who do you think he's going
to look more like?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think a fifty mix?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Really, yeah, I think he's going to look.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Like you. I think he's going to look like me,
with your eyes and your shaped head.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
My chubby cheese. We've seen four D scans of him,
so we know he has my chubby cheese.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Will he end up being a Taurus or a Gemini?
Because when he's going to be born is really dependent.
It's really it's really on the cusp. The cutoff is
the twentieth of May.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And I'll say Taurus is before the twentieth and May. Yeah,
I think you'll slip over.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Into Gemini territory.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Territory.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, it's so funny. Everyone who asks me about the baby,
they're like, oh, what star sign is he? And I
keep saying, oh, his due dates actually Gemini, and they're like, ooh.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I believe in positive traits when it comes to star science.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
If you're a Leo.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
If it's not positive, then I don't want to hear
about it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I'm a Taurus and Tauruses get along really well with
other tauruses. But regardless, we're gonna love him so much.
In regardless, boy, I love my stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah again, only believe in positive traits.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Okay, prediction on how much the baby is going to weigh,
and this has to be an actual prediction. We can
do pounds or killers. What ra Let's do pounds because
I feel like I know roughly more about pounds.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm just going to put it based on the information
that we've got, so I'll just skew on the higher
end of it. Eight point nine pounds I don't know
what that is in kilos.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I think nine point one pounds. Okay, well we'll circle
back and see he's right. What day do you think
he's going to be born?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
The twenty third of May?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I think he's going to be born on the twenty
eighth of May.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Okay, let's wait and see.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Do you think he's going to be born day or nine?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I mean get a good night's sleep day?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I think night okay, yeah, only because we had that
little thing that happened where I woke up at three
am with contractions, some like just going off what's already happened.
Do you think he will still be breach when he's born.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I always wish for I mean not that. No, I
think he's going to unbreach.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think he's going to remain breach. Eye color. I
have blue eyes, you have brown eyes.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I think blue eyes. Based on what I said to
a question three.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Questions, I think brown eyes. Traits that you hope he
gets from me, all of it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You're perfect there, you are. He obviously determination, with kind heart,
loving nature, intelligence that something.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I hope he gets your calmness. I hope he gets
your intelligence. I hope he gets your ability to be
amazing with numbers, because that's not something that is Mum
possesses your kindness and probably just your ability to be
so lovable, and I feel like everyone you meet loves you.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
That's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
What do you think is going to be the hardest
part of having a baby?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah? Undoubtedly the adjustment. Yeah, but I don't want to
project anything to be hard. I think face challenges in
life when they come your way. I'm going into this
with only positive vibes and excitement, and you know, when
the hard, the inevitable, hard night potentially comes our way,
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then try to laugh through it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah. I think obviously it's a sleep I've made no
secret that I'm concerned about the sleep aspect. But like
you said, there's a lot of fear mongering when it
comes to pregnancy and motherhood. And look, we might be
completely delusional, but we've both spoken about how we want
to go in with a really positive mind, really just
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excited we have a month together where we can be
a little family and just try to make the most
of that month. Last but not least, What are you
most excited about having a son?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh? I mean, we could do a whole episode on
this yeah, all of it. I'm excited to sort of
watch them grow, watch you as what will be an
amazing mother, teach them things, try to guide them through life. Yeah.
Every like I can visualize sort of every stage of it,
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and I'm excited for all of it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Love it, Michael. Thank you so much for coming on
the podcast. It's been incredible having you on once again.
I feel like it's a really nice ribbon to tie
up what's been an incredible series of where a bump
out and you've been a big part of that.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Should we go have a baby?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Now that's so scary to say, it's so terrifying, but
I think, yeah, we should go have a Okay, guys,
thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much
for sharing these episodes with friends who are trying to
have kids, who are pregnant, who are moms. I really
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I'm back. He's back. He was here for the first episode.
You came in for the middle kind of episodes and
now we are clocking off. And what a journey, what
what a journey pregnancy has been the craziest I don't
want to say activity, but the craziest thing I've ever
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participated in activity. I don't know what to call it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's a it's an experience, for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It's been a real experience. Yeah, some thirty seven weeks today,
and I think I've pushed recording this podcast out was
long as physically possible. But I think as of the weekend,
I would say Saturday, I've genuinely thought I was coming
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back to labor every single day, which I don't know.
I'm probably not, but I think because it's my first
pregnancy and I'm just getting all of these crazy symptoms,
like my hips hurt, my inner thighs hurt. I don't
want to come on here and complain, but basically everything,
I feel like I'm eighty years old. That's how my
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body feels, which I don't know if I was really
expecting that, Like I didn't really you know, like I
wake up in the morning and my hands just I
can't even straighten them out.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, Like rolling over in bed is quite.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
A process, guys. Okay, if you're pregnant and you're close
to the end of the pregnancy, it takes me through
business days to roll over in bed from one side,
so it's from my left side all the way over
to my right side. Is the most painful experience ever.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
If I wake up mid roll, I sort of help
you with the last, sort of.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Give me a little bit, but it's so painful. Like
I think that you even might think I'm overplaying, but
I wouldn't be ever played because it in the middle
of the It's the middle of the night, Like, who
could be bothered putting on a charade.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think that you think that I'm maybe not really
seeing and feeling all the symptoms you are, But I
just I try to make light of the symptoms to
try to keep things a bit upbeat, Like I know
you're doing it tough at.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
This point, Yeah, it is. I am doing it.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
There's no way I could do it. I could not
do it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You could do it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
The rolling in the middle of the night. That's the
most hidden secret of pregnancy. I would say I've had
no one talk about. And I know I'm not alone
because I've asked people, Like when saw my osteomeg and
I was like, oh my god, what's happening. She's like, Oh,
that's pelvic girdle pain. I think it's called and totally
normal at the end of pregnancy. I've seen my acupuncturist.
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You know, I have a team of people trying to
help me with pregnancy. Team. I'm having a pregnancy massage as
you should.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, I couldn't do it. I genuinely couldn't do it.
What you've done is amazing. Thank you, well done.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
We saw our ob yesterday. We got some injections.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
We did.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You got your injections?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Why is that funny? Because I made a joke. I
just feel it was a joke. It was I can't
believe the struggle that I'm having to go through in
this pregnancy because I had to get two little needles.
But it was obviously a joke.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, you got the hooping cough and the flu. Obviously
the baby's being born in winter, so those were recommended.
And then I got I've already had those two, but
I also got the RSV vaccine and I feel good.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
On the other hand, the.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Army saw, you know what, the hoop pregnancy is really
start to take its toll on them.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The hooping cough has tennis in it, so yeah, it
gives you that real sore, like it's just been punched. Yeah,
but we got measurements done. Do you want to talk
us through babies?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I do love my numbers.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You do love your number.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So it's all algorithm based. Keep in mind, so the
predicted current weight is two point nine, which would mean
the predicted birth weight would be over four kilograms, which
is on the larger side but not huge. So what
it's based on is the measurement of the stomach is
in the ninetieth percentile, and the overall average measurement of
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the stomach, the head, and the thigh is the sixty
fifth percentile.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, and keeping in mind, our obi was like, we
measured the head, the head is like six to sixtieth percentile,
but he reckons that they're under measuring that. And then
because the baby is unfortunately still in the breach position,
his little legs are all bent, so they couldn't really
measure his lafe.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, but that's where he wants his legs to be.
He's not uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, but they think that's an underprediction because obviously if
his stomach is in the ninetieth percentile, that means the
baby's like in the top ten percent of the population,
the top biggest how did you describe it at the top.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You wouldn't say top ten percent.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
But like not in the top ten percent, but he's
the biggest.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Out of ten babies, out of one hundred babies, he'd
be in the top ten biggest babies.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
In his stomach. Yeah, so that's our predictions. Have we
told the podcast how much we weighed at birth? We
know him pounds, We.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Might have told them at the start.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, should we go over that again, because I feel
like it's pretty I was.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I was ten pounds ten, which is.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Very large, very large. If you know power measurements. Ten
pound ten is like the top like two percent of
the babies, Like, it's huge. And then I was a
nine pound baby, So obviously I was like slightly concerned
knowing that Michael and I were both huge babies. But
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from what they're saying, the baby's going to be like
an eight pound or nine pound baby. So we'll see.
We should we actually we're going to hold the predictions,
but at the end of this episode, we will be
making predictions on the baby and how we're going to
parent and all things like that. So I'm actually really
excited for that. Let's talk about how we're feeling. Because
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the baby is going to be born in around two weeks,
two to three weeks, how are you feeling about becoming
a dad?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I feel good about it. It is still really hard
to fully conceptualize what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, it's hard, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's such a strange feeling because obviously you've got all
the time when you're in conversation as a couple that
you want to eventually have kids, and then nine months
of a pregnancy to kind of mentally prepare for it.
And I feel one hundred percent prepared for it and
excited for it, but still that idea of bringing a
baby home in a couple of weeks time potentially and
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just having this other member of the household, which is
the say of us, which would be amazing. But it's
just it's really strange to fully see that until I
guess it actually happens.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's really hard to conceptualize what that looks like. And
I think nine months. I've always thought that's a really
long time to be pregnant, but in some ways I
feel like it's not been long enough. I need another
year to really wrap my head around this. You said,
do you feel prepared? I don't really feel prepared, Like
I feel like with all the stuff, like we have
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the stuff that we need to have a baby, but
I feel so underprepared to look after a newborn, Like
I'm not sure if it's quite legal because I don't
have any qualifications. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I think that most people the first time, they're just
we've got you know, we've got a really good support
network and so that we'll get some help along the way. Yeah,
we'll figure it out day by day.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. Both of our parents are extremely excited, and I
think they're going to be such a good help. But
I'm just like, yeah, like I just can't quite even
though obviously I know the baby's coming. And I don't
know if you guys can relate to this feeling, but
it's just really hard to wrap my head around. And
I know people say, like, when the baby comes, you
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can't remember your life without them, but right now, it's
like really hard to picture us with a baby.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, you know, yeah I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And I'm sure we're gonna listen back to this if
we do it. Where's your bump? At Season two? Fulle
and fingers crossed and probably laugh at us saying this.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be cool.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Though, it's gonna I'm excited. I'm very excited. But it's
also like for someone who loves change, even for me,
this is like a lot of change.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's a big change.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's a big change. It's an irreversible change. Yeah, not
that I want it to be reversal, but I'm just saying, like, who,
we're excited. We got this, we got this. I think
now's the time to talk about this. M it's a
little bit more on the serious spectrum of things, and
it's postpartum. We've spoken between ourselves about postpartum and kind
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of looking out for signs and just really being connected
and looking out for each other and making sure each
other is okay. But I really wanted to bring up
some of the stats around dads who get postpartum. So
one and and fathers experience postpartum depression or anxiety when
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a baby is born. So this condition is also known
as paternal postpartum depression and can manifest with similar symptoms
of maternal postpartum. So obviously those statistics are pretty high.
How are we going to navigate that and how do
you even feel about just hearing those statistics.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I mean it's always hard to hear statistics that
around mental health for anyone, and it's it's hard for
anyone going through mental health. You know, hopefully they can
find a way through it. I think, like any mental health,
it's just all about checking in on yourself and checking
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in on each other because you never know when it's
going to arise, so it's hard to prepare for. But
definitely it's just about you know, checking it on yourself,
checking in on each other, checking in on your friends.
And you know, I'm super lucky personally that I've got
a lot of good people around me, so yeah, checking in.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, we'll definitely be doing a lot of checking in
with each other.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You also get a month of paternity leave, so we're
going to really be adjusting to this new life and
person together, getting to know him and love on him.
But we're also going in very eyes open that you know,
both of our mental health could be challenged, and I
think just being aware of that and knowing that it's
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a potential and not being naive and saying that's not
going to happen to us, because we just never.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Know agree with that. I think, yeah, just all about
looking after the people you care about and checking in
on them.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Okay, Mike, what type of parent do you think that
you're going to be.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I think the easiest answer to that is I have
no idea, because, like any major change in life, you're
just going to adapt as things happen, you know. I'd
like to think that, well, I'd like to think this
is how I will be that I'll be keen on
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creating a level of I think I'll be the structure
and rules, but also like fun within that. Yeah, I
think if we can try our best to just be
good guidance while also hopefully you know, being there to
have a lot of fun along the way, and that'd
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be great.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, I agree. I think I don't know. I've actually
I went on a podcast recently and the girls we're
saying like, they're like that we don't know how it happens,
but you end up kind of modeling your parenting on
how you were parented, even if it's something you were like,
I never want to be like my parents, and then
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as your parent, you see like little parts even if
it's even if you don't want to be like your
parents at all, and you actively try to not be
like them. They could be like some things that you
do and you're like, oh, that reminds me of my parents.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That is funny. I like the way my parents parented.
They did a pretty good job.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, no, same, I think I just don't want to
be the disciplinarian. But I'm also like so aware that
you know, kids need structure rules. Yeah, but I wouldn't
you to be like obviously when he's older, if he
does something wrong, it's like, go see dad. But it's
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probably not going to work out like that. I'm so
aware that it's probably going to be me. It's going
to be probably just a mix.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Right. I remember when my dad would say to me
I'm disappointed it was, it would hit home. It would
definitely hit home when he would say it, and he
wouldn't say it in an angry way. He would just
say it in the most calm, sort of dead pan way,
and it did hit home. So hopefully I've got the
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same power.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Is that your vibe of what you're going to do look?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, And now actually I'm thinking of more things to say,
because how you want to act is not necessarily how
you're capable of acting. We know that emotions always get
in the way of things. I'd like to think that
I'm like a really calm person you are, But I've
also never been a parent before, So I'm not going
to come on here as someone that has not parented
and preach to potential parents about how to stay calm
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during parenting, because you know, I've obviously seen how kids, babies,
toddlers can act, and that is really challenging stuff, like
super challenging stuff, and probably the sort of challenges that
my emotions haven't had to deal with. But I'd like
to hope that I can stay really calm, and that's
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that's what I'm aim to do, stay calm and then
just try to guide and not be too reactive. Funny thing,
do we come back to this in like a couple
of years time.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
We definitely coming back to this way sooner than that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think it's really good to have like aspirations and goals,
but they're not be so hard on yourself. Yeah when
because we're human, right, We're going to make mistakes. So
is it possible to stay calm as a parent one
hundred percent of the time? Probably not, But I'm going
to definitely. I'm going to certainly do my best.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's just funny because you are the most calm person
that I've ever met, which is one of the things
I love so dearly about you. But me, on the
other hand, I'm not calm at all.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I would like to be.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You've calmed me down. I would say, I.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Think that you have really calmed and I've not had
any parent that You've made people make their own decisions
I think, and how they want to act. You've calmed
down over the last few years a lot. Yeah, you've
definitely calm.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And I don't want to ramp back up.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You've definitely come significantly while being pregnant, which is often
the well, like I'm just talking about cliches here, of course,
but obviously the cliches is sometimes being quite irritable and
not calm when pregnant.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Would you agree with that, I'm so calm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You're so calm pregnant.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We had like a really important business meeting the other day,
and normally in meetings like that with like such pressure,
I would say I would be like panicking, freaking out,
like going over everything. I was the calmest person in
the room. I had zero fucks were given by me.
I was like, who am I?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, I'd agree with that. So what do you, I mean,
what are you going to aim to be? Like? Obviously
I think would you hope to be?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like I think that I really need to work on
my patients.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I would agree with that, Like.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I like, sometimes if you say a story that goes
for too long, let's go.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm an amazing storyteller, So I'd hate to think, so, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Need to work on my patients. I do feel really calm.
I've felt calm this whole pregnancy, just maintaining that. Really.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Do you know what's funny? I think any parents listening
to this and are saying we're going to be calm
and patient, They're like, you just wait, just wait.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Our biggest fight that we've ever had, We've had a fight.
The biggest fight I can recall was when we just
went to Europe. We were on the way back Dubai Airport,
the Dubai Airport fight, and basically I had pushed myself
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to stay awake even although it was meant to be
like nighttime, like it was meant to be my sleep time,
so I'd like stayed up kind of like for eight hours,
and then in my mind, we want to go straight
onto the flight. And then I was going to sleep
the whole time. And I literally as soon as I
get on a flight, I'm knocked out right, Like I
just sleep the whole time. I'll sleep ten hours on
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a flight, which I would not do in my bed,
but because I know I'm on a flight, I'm like,
send myself to sleep. And then the flight was delayed
by six hours, and that was I was not in
a good mental stage.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You're not good without sleep. But it's all about.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Change the dialogue anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
It's just the only reason I'm bringing this fight up
is because the worst fight we've ever had was.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It was just you.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
But like what I'm saying is is it was when
I was deeply sleep deprived, and so knowing that we're
going into a state of sleep deprivation, I just really
hope and pray for a better version of myself.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's let me to say, I think you're perfect the
way you are, and you'll do your best and that's
all that matters.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Thanks Anny. Okay, what is the weirdest symptom that I
have had? Being pregnant that you've been like, whoa, that's
a lot, because I feel like there's so many if.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
That's some really, do you mean throughout the whole pregnancy. Yeah,
I mean the thing that springs to mind the most
was when we're on It's not really the weirdest, but
when we're on our baby moon, you were the itchiest
person on planet Earth for about all weeks, Like everything
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was itching you, clothing, heat, you were just so itchy
for a week. That's probably the thing that stands out
the most. But yeah, it's hard to pinpoint one. I
feel like each day you're feeling and experiencing something new,
and we're just saying what does this all mean? And
we're just trying to figure it out day by day.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We went on a baby man, and all I wanted
to do was be in my bikini at the beach.
Oh no, I've been a bikini at the pool and
I literally couldn't put on my bikini. I think the
weirdest moment that we've had, and again, like it's not weird,
but it's just like a really interesting symptom was when
the milk came out and we were.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Like, oh yeah, yeah, that was like, oh wow, this
is the real deal.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Definitely pregnant, the bright yellow milk, and we were like,
oh my god. Yeah, obviously I've gone through a million
changes physically, emotionally, just all the things. Really, but how
has pregnancy been for you as my husband, as the
dad watching alongside.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
That's difficult to answer. I mean for me, honestly, I
haven't really had to do anything that I don't naturally
want to do, which is just care for you and
look after you as much as I can. You know,
it is hard seeing life be a little bit more
challenging for you. Definitely, Yeah, But yeah, I can't say
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that I've had to go through any sort of real
day to day challenges throughout your pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Has it been hard for you because obviously, like on
weekends we go have some app rolls and you know,
have Kingfish Civic Chain, and there's so much we can't
do that we used to be able to do fun things.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well. Yeah, but in saying that, it's been, like, it's
pretty amazing. Like every week or so, you've got another
scan you're seeing like the baby develop your you know,
it's going through a lot of positive changes and the
baby's growing and you're growing, and it's kind of you're
(22:49):
going through milestones every couple of weeks. Which when can
you say that like in your day to day life.
So no, I only can, Like, I'm only gonna I mean,
look back on this with just all those positive memories.
Hopefully the nauseousness and all the pains and aches will
slowly be forgotten over the next six months, and I
(23:11):
would just say that we'd look back on it as
like such a beautiful time in our lives.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I think, So, what's your top three best moments of
this pregnancy if you had to rank?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, so that first that first scan when so maybe
the twelve thirteen week scan when they first look like
a baby, Yeah, and you're like, wow, this is this
is incredible. Telling our families was pretty amazing day. Actually,
that was a couple of days that we told our
families over that was that was really amazing. Oh, there's
(23:45):
actually there's actually so many Hearing the heartbeat for the
first time, which was kind of that was actually like
six or seven.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Weeks and I was having some bleeding, so we were concerned.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, we were we were really worried. Yeah, that morning,
and then to hear the heartbeat that afternoon was amazing. Yeah,
they're the first three that have jumped out. What about you?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Obviously finding out has to be number one. That was
so cool, especially after like doing lots of negative tests
and then it was finally a positive and we were like,
oh my God. Definitely telling our families. And then I
think seeing the four D scan, seeing his little face
and in the four D scan he like grabbed his
(24:27):
own foot and put it in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Unique.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It was just really cool and I think like it
made it feel really real, like.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
A proper little boy.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
There's a human in there, not an alien. Michael, have
you ever heard of Covede syndrome.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I have not heard of Covede syndrome.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Covede syndrome is also called sympathetic pregnancy, which I think
that you might have had during this pregnant I'm not
coughing this. So it is a proposed condition in which
an expectant father experiences some of the same symptoms and
behaviors as his pregnant wife.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So you're talking about the tiredness, but I would go
as far as saying that we have had probably the
busiest year of our lives while being pregnant. We've been
so much work, all this stuff going on with the business,
all these other ventures happening, and the pregnancy and pregnancy admin.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And then I added where's your So it's just.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Been kind of non non stop. I honestly felt that
we haven't really not stopped for six months, and I've
occasionally been tired. And now you're trying to throw coved
I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It's sleeping in the studio, guys. No, I feel like
so expecting dads can often have a bit of weight gain,
altered hormonal levels, morning nausea, disrupted sleep. I'm not saying, but.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You've You've just named three things I haven't had.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
All I'm saying is all I'm saying is sometimes I'll
be like, oh, I've got to sow back like yeah,
me too, or I'll be like I feel like nauseous
and you're like same.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I'm not waking up. I have been waking up to
go to the toilet in the middle of the night, however,
which is a new thing. I think that is because
you wake up in the middle of the night to
go to the toilet, which wakes me up, and then
I'm kind of like, fomo, you know why not may
as well go.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
To covede syndrome. That is, it's a scientific thing, it's
a real syndrome. It's like, you're such an EmPATH. You're
such an empathetic person that you're like, I also feel
what you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I don't know what you're feeling. Looks hot like, looks
like real, real challenges and if.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You've had just just like the rain, I feel amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I feel absolutely incredible. Thanks for asking.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Next question, Okay, so should we make some predictions? That's
pretty so on the first episode of Where's'll Bump Out,
we made some predictions and then we got to listen back,
or I listened back, and it was really cool listening
(27:24):
back because I was like, we have to do this again.
So the first one, who do you think he's going
to look more like?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think a fifty mix?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Really, yeah, I think he's going to look.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Like you. I think he's going to look like me,
with your eyes and your shaped head.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
My chubby cheese. We've seen four D scans of him,
so we know he has my chubby cheese.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Will he end up being a Taurus or a Gemini?
Because when he's going to be born is really dependent.
It's really it's really on the cusp. The cutoff is
the twentieth of May.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And I'll say Taurus is before the twentieth and May. Yeah,
I think you'll slip over.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Into Gemini territory.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Territory.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, it's so funny. Everyone who asks me about the baby,
they're like, oh, what star sign is he? And I
keep saying, oh, his due dates actually Gemini, and they're like, ooh.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I believe in positive traits when it comes to star science.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
If you're a Leo.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
If it's not positive, then I don't want to hear
about it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I'm a Taurus and Tauruses get along really well with
other tauruses. But regardless, we're gonna love him so much.
In regardless, boy, I love my stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah again, only believe in positive traits.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Okay, prediction on how much the baby is going to weigh,
and this has to be an actual prediction. We can
do pounds or killers. What ra Let's do pounds because
I feel like I know roughly more about pounds.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm just going to put it based on the information
that we've got, so I'll just skew on the higher
end of it. Eight point nine pounds I don't know
what that is in kilos.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I think nine point one pounds. Okay, well we'll circle
back and see he's right. What day do you think
he's going to be born?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
The twenty third of May?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I think he's going to be born on the twenty
eighth of May.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Okay, let's wait and see.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Do you think he's going to be born day or nine?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I mean get a good night's sleep day?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I think night okay, yeah, only because we had that
little thing that happened where I woke up at three
am with contractions, some like just going off what's already happened.
Do you think he will still be breach when he's born.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I always wish for I mean not that. No, I
think he's going to unbreach.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think he's going to remain breach. Eye color. I
have blue eyes, you have brown eyes.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I think blue eyes. Based on what I said to
a question three.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Questions, I think brown eyes. Traits that you hope he
gets from me, all of it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You're perfect there, you are. He obviously determination, with kind heart,
loving nature, intelligence that something.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I hope he gets your calmness. I hope he gets
your intelligence. I hope he gets your ability to be
amazing with numbers, because that's not something that is Mum
possesses your kindness and probably just your ability to be
so lovable, and I feel like everyone you meet loves you.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
That's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
What do you think is going to be the hardest
part of having a baby?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah? Undoubtedly the adjustment. Yeah, but I don't want to
project anything to be hard. I think face challenges in
life when they come your way. I'm going into this
with only positive vibes and excitement, and you know, when
the hard, the inevitable, hard night potentially comes our way,
(31:44):
then try to laugh through it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah. I think obviously it's a sleep I've made no
secret that I'm concerned about the sleep aspect. But like
you said, there's a lot of fear mongering when it
comes to pregnancy and motherhood. And look, we might be
completely delusional, but we've both spoken about how we want
to go in with a really positive mind, really just
(32:08):
excited we have a month together where we can be
a little family and just try to make the most
of that month. Last but not least, What are you
most excited about having a son?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh? I mean, we could do a whole episode on
this yeah, all of it. I'm excited to sort of
watch them grow, watch you as what will be an
amazing mother, teach them things, try to guide them through life. Yeah.
Every like I can visualize sort of every stage of it,
(32:45):
and I'm excited for all of it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Love it, Michael. Thank you so much for coming on
the podcast. It's been incredible having you on once again.
I feel like it's a really nice ribbon to tie
up what's been an incredible series of where a bump
out and you've been a big part of that.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Should we go have a baby?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Now that's so scary to say, it's so terrifying, but
I think, yeah, we should go have a Okay, guys,
thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much
for sharing these episodes with friends who are trying to
have kids, who are pregnant, who are moms. I really
(33:26):
really appreciate you guys. And We're going to go have
a baby.
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