April 30, 2025 • 37 mins
Hello, I am so beyond thrilled you are joining me for the first episode of WYBA. I’ve been talking about doing this mini-series for 2 years & to see it finally come to life is so incredible! In this episode I share how we found out we were pregnant & telling our families. As well as a very real candid chat from Michael in I, that was recorded in August 2024, in the depths of ‘the trying stage.’ I hope you love it as much as I’ve loved creating it.
All my love,
Anna xxx
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wanting to have kids is a huge life decision. But
once you're ready to embark on that journey, what do
you actually need to know? This podcast is the community
you never knew you needed from mums and mums to be.
We're about to embark on this learning journey together and
it's going to be real. It's going to be raw
and a completely non judgmental space. You're listening to Where's
(00:25):
your Bump Hat? And this is ANAMACA voice Staples. I'm
going to be interviewing experts in the field so that
all of our burning questions can be answered, from understanding
our cycle to knowing what is the best time to conceive,
and so much more. We'll get into the difference between
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natural verse c section verths, strange pregnancy symptoms, and everything
in between. Welcome to Where's Your Bump Hat. I'm so
excited that we're finally here. Where's Your bum That is
a podcast that I've dedicated to learning in a non
judgmental space. I do not have all the answers. I
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have so much to learn, but first I think it's
only right that I announced, so drumroll please, I am pregnant.
It still sounds so surreal to say that, by the way,
and I'm guessing the majority of you probably already know
I'm pregnant if you're here, But today we are taking
it back to the very beginning. So in this episode,
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we're actually going to hear a chat between Michael and
I that happened way before we got pregnant. It's so
incredible to listen back to us in that trying phase.
I ended up finding out I was pregnant on September
the twenty first, and I remember that because this song
was trending at the time, which specifically mentioned September twenty first.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Remember.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, So a week before the day that I took
the test where I found out I was pregnant, Michael
and I actually took another test and there was the
faintest line you've ever seen on a pregnancy test, to
the point that we had to have it in the
right light on the right angle just to see this faint,
faint line. And Michael was not convinced, but he could
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see what I was talking about. So I ended up
going and doing a blood test. I was sure in
my heart of hearts that I was pregnant, and the
doctor called us and actually said that I wasn't pregnant,
and I asked her what chance did we have this
month of falling pregnant, Like could it be a false negative?
And she told me there was a one percent chance
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of me being pregnant that month because the hCG levels
were just so low, So we kind of had given
up for that month. We then, on the twentieth of September,
so a day before we found out, we were celebrating
our business, Goldie's first birthday. We went out. I had
two aparol spritzers. We were kind of a little bit bummed,
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but we were like, it's okay, It's going to happen
when it happens. And the next morning, when I woke up,
I was feeling so nauseous. And I'm always feeling nauseous,
so it's not really a surprise to me. But in
that moment it was six am, I just thought, I'm
just going to take a pregnancy test. I set up
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the camera because I was like, I every time I
take a pregnancy test, I'm going to set up the
camera because I want to capture that moment. But I
was the most dishevel person off on earth, because I
genuinely didn't think that I was ever going to post
that video. After the last result and the doctor assuring
me that there was very minimal chance that I could
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be pregnant, I was not expecting a positive result. Took
the test and there was a pretty strong positive line,
and I was in complete disbelief but also so excited,
and I was also in just so much shock. I
just I had a million emotions going through my body
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at that moment, and I ended up walking back into
our bedroom, turning the light on, turning the TV on,
and just sitting very upright, staring at the TV but
not taking in anything that was going on, to which
Michael then woke up and was like, are you okay?
And my response was I just feel really nauseous, I'm
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not feeling well, and straightway. The first thing he said
was well, why don't you go do a pregnancy test?
And I was like, that's a great idea. I think
we should do a pregnancy test. So I ended up
having a shower, brushing my hair because it was not
brushed before, and called him into the room and flipped
it over and it said pregnant and we were both like, what,
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like this cannot be true? Like we've done the blood test.
They it was negative, and Michael, being Michael, being very logical,
was like, this isn't true. I don't think that you
should get your hopes up. You need to relax. And
I was like, no, I took another one before and
it said positive. That's why I sat up right in
bed and anyway, he was like, Okay, I think we
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should just go for a walk, go to Woolies, get
a digital pregnancy test, and if that one says pregnant,
like the words pregnant, then we can celebrate. Because he
was like, I don't want to celebrate because me being me,
I was just over the moon. I was so excited,
but in the same breath trying to control my emotions.
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But it's a bit hard when you've never seen a
pregnancy test go positive in your life before and then
all of a sudden you have one there after trying.
So we walked down to Woolies, we got the pregnancy test,
we set up the camera and lo and behold, it
came up as pregnant, and we were so beyond excited,
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so over the moon. We ended up doing a blood
test that day and it came back as positive. They
said that the hCG levels were a little low, so
I did another blood test and they were rising perfectly.
And then I did a follow up blood test and
again they were rising perfectly, and at six weeks pregnant,
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we just could not keep the secret any longer. We
were so bursting with excitement. So we ended up telling
both of our parents that we were pregnant, as well
as Michael's sister and my brother and both of their partners.
And telling your family that you're pregnant is just the
best thing ever. Our parents were both just so overwhelmed,
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excited and just so thrilled for us. And I think
with those moments, you can picture them a million times
in your head and how they're going to go, and
so sometimes things don't exactly go according to plan, but
the moments really were perfect. I actually tried to tell
my parents it's actually pretty funny. So we had to
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make up a reason to film them because I wanted
to catch their reactions on camera. And so we said
that we were bringing out a new product for our business, Goldiebe,
and that we were going to put the product in
their hand and they had to react to it. And
I was trying to get my parents to do it,
and they had just come back from interstate and they
(07:31):
were kind of frazzled, and I was like, please just
do this Goldiebe video with me, and my Dad's like,
read the room, Anna, we're busy, and I was like furious.
I was like, you read the room. And now it's
like this huge family joke of ours, this read the
room business, because you know, my dad was not reading
the room. But he found out that night that we
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were pregnant after we ended up having dinner with them,
and he was like, oh my god, I feel so bad.
I'm so sorry, but it's just fun because you just
you can't plan these things and however they happen is
just so special. So in case you guys are wondering,
where's your bump at, is not something that just happened
overnight or when I fell pregnant. I've actually been planning
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this mini series now for two years. So when this
was recorded, we had been trying for four cycles. And
you'll hear Michael and I reflect a lot on pregnancy
scares we had after I got my Marina taken out
after six months of being with him. We also reflect
on my complete lack of education when it comes to
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cycles and tracking my cycles, and I think that a
lot of people can relate to that. I remember growing
up and my mum telling me very often that if
I have sex, I will get pregnant, which is very
reminiscent of the coach car scene in Me and Girls.
So let's go back to August of twenty twenty four
now and listen to Michael and I. I'm joined today
(09:05):
by my beautiful husband, Michael stainfules.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Hi, it's interesting we're doing this. I feel a little
bit nervous.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, I feel a bit weird about it, Like, yeah,
just us here. Yeah, I feel a bit nervy.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And you said we're just going to have a conversation
like we would at home.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, but now there's money being recorded.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But it's kind of like quite a real topic. Like
we're kind of getting vulnerable. So I feel like that's
maybe why we both feel nervous.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And I mean, I hate getting publicly vulnerable. So this
is this is my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
But we're just in a room together, like no one
can hear us, no one can see us, except when
this goes out to everyone.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
How long have we wanted to have kids?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I mean, I reckon. We first spoke about kids six
months into our relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, I was open to a mistake early, probably six
months in we would have been like, okay, if yeah,
it happened, yeah, but not the plan. But we were
open to whatever happened.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
We were open to it. I think I'm pretty sure
we have.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
While also being obviously safe and preventing ourselves from having kids.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, and when I met you, I actually decided I
immediately obviously knew that you were my person, and then
knowing that we were kind of potentially going to head
in that direction soon, I was like, obviously I'm not
taking the marina out to have kids, but I wanted
to give my body a bit of a break.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I think I don't know how long into our
relationship did I take it out.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think you got it taken out within the year Yeah,
of our relationship starting.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, about a year in, perhaps took it out. Started
to feel way more like myself.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah. And then we did the calendar method, yes, protection.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yours, which actually taught me, which.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Is weird, but I mean, thanks, sister. Yeah, it's not
called the calendar method, like that's got the right word
for it.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
People have the flow app and it's kind of just
tracking your cycle. Yeah, And it's so crazy because I
never knew up until thirty one. With thirty one, I
had no idea how to track my cycle, which is
so concerning because I feel like we should all be
tracking our cycle. I've only just started to kind of
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get into the flow of my body. I know when
I'm ovulating. I kind of have always had ovulation pain,
but I just didn't really know what it was. Like
I used to get my period. When I got my period,
I was kind of like, oh, surprise to me, which
is crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I would always be less surprised when it came, obviously.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Because I'm like super moody the day.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Before for a few days.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah yeah, two days before, and then I get my
period and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I'm ducking for cover.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But we were in Mildura and I told your sister.
I was like, I'm going to track my cycle. And
they had tracked your sister and her partner had tracked
her cycle for like ten years or something and had
successfully done it for ten years, yeah, up until they
had their beautiful baby, and she kind of just explained
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it to me. I got the flow app. I realized
that your cycle starts on the first day of your period,
which still blows my mind because you would think it
would be after the period, but no, first day of
period is the first day of cycle.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And well, I'm glad that my sister gave you sex education.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Hun, it's not sex sex education, it's cycle education. And
I think then we were tracking for a little bit,
and I think we had been in a real relationship
for nine months and we had our first pregnancy scare.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, I mean it wasn't like a complete scare. It
was I. It was I wasn't convinced person, yes you were. No.
I think sometimes we remember we both thought no, because well,
I mean, let.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Me tell this story.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Tell the story.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
So basically, I I was having a few like what
I thought were pregnancy symptoms, and then I took a
test and it was a clear blue test. And then
I left it for like half an hour and forgot
about it and came back to it and it had
two lines, a double line, and I was like, genuinely
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in my heart of hearts, was like, oh my god,
I am pregnant.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So I remember a little bit differently, which I'm nervous
about how do you remember it? Because obviously I don't
want you to make yeah, I don't want you to
feel like you've remembered this story in correctly. But I
thought it was perhaps a lot longer than thirty minutes
you left it for.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, Yeah, I'm not good with the time. I probably did.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I think it was a significant amount of time had passed.
And then you came back to the test and checked
it and it was It said pregnant.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And we both believed it because we had no idea
that evaporation lines had existed.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Right at first, you showed me a pregnancy test that
said positive and yeah. The initial reaction was, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Like my heart was racing, I was freaking out. I
was excited, I was nervous. I genuinely was like, oh
my god, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Remember yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And then that day we were actually seeing a play
with my parents.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But at this point we'd already googled a fair bit
around the results and realized there was a thing called
an evaporation land which comes outside of the test window,
which is why they tell you to check the test
within five or ten minut.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But we weren't sure, and we didn't have you, Yeah,
you were convinced. We thought we might be pregnant. We
went to a play with my parents and we told
them that we thought we might be pregnant. And this
is so sad. My parents were so happy and so excited.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, they were really excited.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They were like thrilled because they have no grandkids and
would love, love, love love to have some grandkids. And
they were like smiling. And I didn't drink that day
because I was like, well, if I'm pregnant, I can't drink. Yeah,
and everyone else was like toasting.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
But then I mean, we unfortunately or fortunately, I don't know,
however you want to spin it, test it again the
next day and.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It was negative.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And it was negative because we still did a blood test.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Remember, because we weren't sure, I took a blood test.
I went to the doctor and took a blood test.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, I did remember that. Maybe we did think we
were pregnant.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
We are, honey, definitely thought it, I mean, and we
were like, one was positive, one was negative, like either way.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
We were excited, nervous and excited. Yeah, but I mean,
this isn't the only time you thought you were pregnant.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But that was the first of the start of many pregnants.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That was the start of the huge journey of potential pregnancies. So,
in my mind, you thought you were pregnant at least
and please correct me, maybe every second month for our
entire relation that much, three four a year.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, probably, So I kind of nauseous often, and so
I'm like, I'm nauseous? Am I pregnant?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Nauseous and irritable? Yes?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, I'm not that irritable. Really, you're painting me as like, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Like if one day you feel a bit nauseous and irritable,
your assumption is that you might be, Like if I.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Got like snappy at something, I'm like, I was just snappy.
Am I pregnant?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Well, you've thought you were pregnant in my mind every
holiday we've been on in the last two years, which
is a lot of holidays.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, and then we have to take a test because
I'm like, well, I don't want to drink if I am.
Do you know what I think it actually comes down
to is like I think I've only very recently, whilst
kind of going on this trying to get pregnant journey,
that I've realized and I think it is due to
a general lack of education from me. I've realized that
(17:38):
there's only a really small window, like twelve to forty
eight hours maximum most people who are like twelve to
twenty four hours maximum that you can get pregnant in.
And I think growing up, I've always been told if
you have sex, you will get pregnant. And I think
that's just my mom trying to be an overprotective mum
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and trying to, you know, protect me in some way.
But that was like drummed into me as a kid.
And so we then when I got my Marina taken out,
started having sex and then I was like, there's pre come,
I'm gonna get pregnant, and like we weren't even having
sex in the ovulation window, and like I was convinced
(18:22):
I was pregnant, and I was I think I'd gone
a little bit to Lulu, But I think that's what
it's from. I think so as well, Yeah, just not knowing.
And then also I think it's also important to know,
like until you start trying to have kids, you don't
know how fertile you are, especially if you've never had
(18:43):
a pregnancy scare, like I've had pregnancy scares and that's
in quotations because they were never actually pregnancies. I've never actually,
to my knowledge, been pregnant, so I don't know how
fertile fertile I am. Yeah, And we recently started trying
(19:05):
to have a baby, like actual trying, actual trying, like
when am I ovulating, like taking using ovulation sticks, tracking
my cycle, you know, to the getting that twelve to
twenty four hour ish window and you know, going for gold.
(19:30):
And we have been trying at this moment in time,
this will be our fourth month trying, right, Yeah, And
like to be honest with you, and this is a
safe space, so no judgment. I was pretty shocked on
the first month of trying when we didn't get pregnant,
(19:50):
Like I was very shocked. And I think this is
coming from someone who is like a hypochondriac like I
was testing, you know, when we weren't trying, so like
imagine me when we are trying.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think once you start trying, all those potential fears
about maybe this won't be able to happen for us,
Like maybe this isn't going to be possible for us,
as soon as it doesn't happen in the first month
or two in the back of your head, there is
(20:23):
that inkling of doubt of like, will this ever be possible,
even though that's a completely irrational thought. Yeah, because rationally
they say it's going to take three, six, twelve months
for a healthy couple. Yeah, But I think as soon
as it doesn't happen for a few months, or as
soon as you start trying, that's when it dawns on
you that it doesn't happen for everyone and you have
(20:44):
to start potentially dealing with that.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
The first month we tried and we didn't get pregnant.
Like keeping in mind, in the two week wait, I
took a million pregnancy tests. It was ridiculous. It was
so silly and such waste of money. But I was
just so high prefixated on it and so sure I was.
I believed it to my care that we were pregnant,
and I was like, well, I'll just do it again
(21:07):
tomorrow because I want to, like know as soon.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
As you somehow had every symptom as well, and I
don't know if you somehow manifested this symptoms.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I was so sick everything. I was so sick. We
were convinced that I was pregnant on the first month.
Remember yeah, Like I had the worst headache, I was nauseou.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Every single of the checklist on the symptom boxes.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
My boobs hurt, I was getting dizzy, and then I
would like check the symptoms and I was like, I've
got it. I must be pregnant. And I tested and
I tested and I tested, And when my period came,
I was even like, oh, that must be implantation bleeding,
Like that's not my period. I was dead set that
(21:53):
I was pregnant. But then the period kind of it
wasn't implantation bleeding. It was an actual period. But I
think you are the voice of reason that I need.
You were like, I don't want you to hurt your
own feelings and do what you did last month, Like
this could take twelve months, and we can't do this
for twelve months, Anna, Like we need to live our lives.
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Like I kind of stopped my life for those two months,
just hyper fixating on every symptom. It is a strange
time to be in, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah. I mean I think all those position them as
irrational feelings that you have, and yeah, I think I
have like two percent of them. I just bury them
deep down because there's no point, the more you hyper
fixate on something, it feels like the harder it is
(22:44):
for it to happen. So, yeah, I've kind of just thought,
let's let's just do the things that we're meant to do, yeah,
like have sex and then at the right times, yeah,
and then just not really think about it, like just
go on living life and just think not about it
at all for maybe nine months. And then after nine months,
(23:06):
then do we need to go do some tests or whatever.
But for nine months, I might let's just go with
the fly.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Wow, it's so interesting listening back to that and just
hearing how uneducated I was when it comes to talking
about cycles. On episode two of Where's You'll Bump Out,
we actually have a women's health practitioner, Nat kra and
Gudis coming onto the podcast to talk all things cycles.
She gives me a full lon education and is going
(23:37):
to help you guys so much. So make sure you
tune into that episode. It's such a gooddy and such
a good resource for women, especially if you're like me
and don't feel like you were fully educated on cycles.
Let's now go back again to August of twenty twenty four,
where Michael and I talk about our sex life during
that time and our predictions for our future kids. Let's
(24:06):
talk about this month. We're having a very chill month.
We haven't really spoken about kids, but we have had
a lot of sex. Yeah, it's been a lot, at
a point where like it's good, but we've forced ourselves
a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
What I've found more amusing and I don't know how
much how we're going to share about it. It's pretty open, right,
So you're quite obsessed with the concept not the ovulation
test this month.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, I'm on the ovulation test. I'm not obsessed, though,
I'm trying to be like, really chill. I'm just taking
the right word.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
The windows of when you think we should be having sex,
they're closing. So when you think it looks like a
positive ovulation.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Test, then I'm like, let's go back.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
What the time is now, no matter where we are.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, let's just leave it there. Yeah, let's just leave
it there. But I'm curious, I mean, do you think
a lot of people are experiencing that.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I think so, like my I don't want to say
who it is just in case they're not comfortable, but
someone who I know close to me was like she
would be like to her husband, like, let's.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Go no matter where they are.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I don't know, no matter where. I mean, I think
we were just.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Think that should be made legal. If you're ovulating, then
it's kind of free game where you have chex just
for the greater good of populations and what have you.
I think that seems like a fair law, but I'm
sure in different countries.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I mean, we did it once in an interesting location.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But it was only for the greater good.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Only because I was kind of thinking that potentially, like
if I have a twelve hour window, I was kind
of like, if we don't do it now, we won't
get to do it. And so then I was like,
let's go this month. My period started on the first
of August until the seventh, and now we're on the
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nineteenth of August. How many times do you think we've
had sex this month? As in, like in that short
period of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven twelve days? How many times.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Is that? So this is from when you're when my
period finished, it feels like most.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Days we haven't.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Today as a clue, okay, well I'm going at least
minus one.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
From twelve nine eight. Okay, I reckon two of them.
We really pushed ourselves.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
To get the job done. We're kind of sick of
it now, aren't we? Absolutely not, We are a little.
I think the stress of the time, you know what
it is. Sometimes it's the pressure of like the time
is now. I would say eighty percent of those have
been organic experiences, but talk about a few.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It needs to happen right now.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Do you want to have next today?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yes? You do? You? Yeah, definitely, I don't think you do. Yeah, definitely,
he's lying, shining, it's lying.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He turned me down for.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That was the first thing in the morning. I hadn't
I hadn't had any nutrients or coffee.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Never did I think I would have a husband who
turning me down.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
First thing in the morning. It's I'm just like personally
not like I don't think first thing in the morning
is it for me?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Like afternoon is like earlo is preferred.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Should we do some predictions?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, let's predict.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Do you think we'll have a boy or a girl? First?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Well, we thought boy. You always thought girl, But for
the last year we've kind of thought boy. Yeah, they've
been named named It would be weird. If it was
a girl, then I would probably. I don't know's be
calling the name that we've chosen, which is a boy's name.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We've got both boy and girl names, though we've got
our name sorted.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
We've been picturing this this boy.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So you think boy, I think boy. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I don't know how disappointed you'll be if you never
have a girl.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I would love a girl at some point, but I
really do think that my prediction is that we'll have
a boy first. Yeah, we obviously both know the name,
yes we do. We've known it from like six months
into our relationship.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yes we have.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
And the girl name. We actually went through a point
where we were talking about our kids in conversation by
their name, like we were calling them by their name,
and then we were like, oh, maybe we shouldn't do
this anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I think I was like, maybe you should stop doing
this because it's possibly not healthy.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
They were like, our kids' names were.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
In existence of someone before they exist.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, they were in daily conversation, and we were like,
I don't know if this is healthy anymore. Definitely wasn't healthy,
but it was fun.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
But we don't do that anymore. Do you predict that
we're going to have? How many kids do you think
we're going to have?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I think too, just because like I'm not getting any younger,
and I've always said I don't want to, Like I
feel like I've got like a mental deadline of age
where I don't want to have more kids. But then
maybe once you've had two, you go.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
But like we've kind of experienced in the past four months,
you can't predict.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
We're both one of two.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
We are both one of two.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And I think that a lot of people generally want
the amount of kids that they come from, and I'm
just basing it on like a lot of my friends
that come from big families, I'm also wanting to have
big families.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm going to predict we're going to have three.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Kids, Okay, like what to two girls and a boy?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay, let me think, what's my prediction. I think we're
gonna have two boys and a girl. No, maybe a
boy and two girls. Yeah, that's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
A boy and two girls. Yeah, yeah, I could do three.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I could do three. Let's hope for one. Let's start
with one.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Let's start with one.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Let's put all the good vibes out into the universe
because we would absolutely love to welcome a little Staples
into the world. It's honestly crazy to hear us predict
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that we were having a little boy. I honestly completely
forgot about that, And thank god we recorded that conversation
back in August, because I was certain that we were
having a girl from the moment I got pregnant, and
I think I probably would have forgotten about that. Speaking
of things in the past, I almost completely forgot about this.
But we are now going to hear from Michael talking
(31:08):
about some things that were very unforeseen. There's some testing
that he did and it was not as we expected.
You spoke before about getting to nine months and then
doing some testing, but we have already done half testing.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, I mean I sort of ended up testing by accident.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Do you want to explain that story?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, so yeah. I mean at this point, I think
it was like a year into our relationship and we
weren't even really well. We definitely weren't trying. We certainly
weren't thinking about it, but I think we were having
a just a Friday night in and as you generally
do at the Chemist, just getting a few random supplies
on a Friday afternoon and you're walking down at aisle
(32:02):
and you stumbled across like a sperm test at home
testing kit. And then we sort of in a very
lighthearted way, we're just like, oh, yeah, like why not.
Like it wasn't like we had this strong desire to
do it. You were just like why not. We just
grabbed it off the shelf, like why.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Wouldn't we test your spell to see if it's you.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Know, like oh crazy. We didn't even know you could
do it at home test, So yeah, it was a
why not moment. We grabbed it. We weren't even thinking
about it, and that night before we put on a movie,
we did the test and it came up with no sperm.
So ultimately the test came back potentially infertile, which was
(32:46):
a bit of a shock because.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Like we were like thinking that this was like a
fun thing to do.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, it was more like like light It was light hearted.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It was a Friday night, and we after it said
no sperm, like Michael has no sperm, we were both
just like looking at each other like, wow, did we
just stumble upon something that we had no idea about?
And then we read the instructions through again and again,
and realized that we had done it wrong because apparently
(33:18):
you have to wait.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Two days is it three two or three.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Two or three days specifically? So then we were like, okay,
so we'll go back to the chemists. Got another one.
They're not cheap as well, they were like maybe fifty
sixty dollars. Got another one, waited three days, you did
it again, and it came back no sperm. Yeah, And
(33:42):
I was like.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
So then at this point there.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Was like, you looked like you had seen it go,
so you were really worried.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Completely fair enough, Yeah, I mean it wasn't like I
was doing sort of such. I was trying to figure
out how accurate these tests were. It looked like, based
on everything I could find line, they were mostly accurate.
But then there was a few glimmers of hope of
some potential feedback that perhaps these were one hundred percent accurate. Yeah,
which is when I decided to do a proper test
(34:13):
at the hospital.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Him off, I dropped you off. Explain how that happens, Like,
how do you do a sperm test at the hospital?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Oh? I never thought I'd be sharing this experience publicly,
but here we are. So yeah, ultimately, you just do.
You do the deed, and then you need to get
to a hospital within thirty minutes to drop off the sampoint.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
We drove it, We rushed it.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah, and then dropped it off and then within
like yeah, a couple of days, it comes back. But
it ultimately says the levels, so the volume, the potentially
the mobility, and maybe the speed. There's like a couple
of different categories, and then it kind of has a
(35:00):
range where it's considered a normal range. And I came
back a normal range for all of those.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
So wasn't there one that was like a little bit less.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It was on the lower end of the normal range.
The volume the volume, right, so the volume sat on
the lower end of the normal range. But it's still
said in the results that it came back as a
normal test but.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Maybe still speedy.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah. I mean, again, don't quote me on the full
accuracy of this, but in my eyes, the way I
read the test was there was slightly less of that
normal range, but they were fast and mobile. It was
pretty much my interpretation of the results. And probably it
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looks like from that test, it looks like I'm fertile
and you've also tested well a couple.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Of years ago, I did a test that you can
do where you go to your local GP and it
tells you how many follicles you have. But apparently that
test you need to get it done pretty much like
every year for it to be accurate, like they can
drop significantly in a year. So I haven't yet done
that test, but I mean, who knows, Maybe I'll do
(36:21):
it in a couple of months if we still haven't conceived.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, but I think that will be in like what
six months, we might consider doing that.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, but positive vibes, right.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, positive vibes of course.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And here we are today. I'm currently in this moment,
twenty five weeks pregnant. I honestly can't believe it. I
feel so lucky and so grateful. Guys, thank you so
much for tuning into the very first episode of Where's
Your Bump? Hat. I really want you guys to get
involved in this, so please send me voice notes. I'm
going to include as many of them as I can
(36:58):
in the show, and make sure to check tu in
to the upcoming episodes. We have so much great content
coming your way. Next episode, we have Nat talking all
things cycles, and we have so many experts helping us
all learn together. We have doctor Golly, we have osteopaths,
OB's and so much more. So I won't give it
(37:19):
all away now, but I cannot wait to chat to
you next week. Starting a new chapter in your life
can be scary, so let's do this one together. Lots
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natural verse c section verths, strange pregnancy symptoms, and everything
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have so much to learn, but first I think it's
only right that I announced, so drumroll please, I am pregnant.
It still sounds so surreal to say that, by the way,
and I'm guessing the majority of you probably already know
I'm pregnant if you're here, But today we are taking
it back to the very beginning. So in this episode,
(01:30):
we're actually going to hear a chat between Michael and
I that happened way before we got pregnant. It's so
incredible to listen back to us in that trying phase.
I ended up finding out I was pregnant on September
the twenty first, and I remember that because this song
was trending at the time, which specifically mentioned September twenty first.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Remember.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, So a week before the day that I took
the test where I found out I was pregnant, Michael
and I actually took another test and there was the
faintest line you've ever seen on a pregnancy test, to
the point that we had to have it in the
right light on the right angle just to see this faint,
faint line. And Michael was not convinced, but he could
(02:22):
see what I was talking about. So I ended up
going and doing a blood test. I was sure in
my heart of hearts that I was pregnant, and the
doctor called us and actually said that I wasn't pregnant,
and I asked her what chance did we have this
month of falling pregnant, Like could it be a false negative?
And she told me there was a one percent chance
(02:45):
of me being pregnant that month because the hCG levels
were just so low, So we kind of had given
up for that month. We then, on the twentieth of September,
so a day before we found out, we were celebrating
our business, Goldie's first birthday. We went out. I had
two aparol spritzers. We were kind of a little bit bummed,
(03:05):
but we were like, it's okay, It's going to happen
when it happens. And the next morning, when I woke up,
I was feeling so nauseous. And I'm always feeling nauseous,
so it's not really a surprise to me. But in
that moment it was six am, I just thought, I'm
just going to take a pregnancy test. I set up
(03:26):
the camera because I was like, I every time I
take a pregnancy test, I'm going to set up the
camera because I want to capture that moment. But I
was the most dishevel person off on earth, because I
genuinely didn't think that I was ever going to post
that video. After the last result and the doctor assuring
me that there was very minimal chance that I could
(03:46):
be pregnant, I was not expecting a positive result. Took
the test and there was a pretty strong positive line,
and I was in complete disbelief but also so excited,
and I was also in just so much shock. I
just I had a million emotions going through my body
(04:09):
at that moment, and I ended up walking back into
our bedroom, turning the light on, turning the TV on,
and just sitting very upright, staring at the TV but
not taking in anything that was going on, to which
Michael then woke up and was like, are you okay?
And my response was I just feel really nauseous, I'm
(04:31):
not feeling well, and straightway. The first thing he said
was well, why don't you go do a pregnancy test?
And I was like, that's a great idea. I think
we should do a pregnancy test. So I ended up
having a shower, brushing my hair because it was not
brushed before, and called him into the room and flipped
it over and it said pregnant and we were both like, what,
(04:55):
like this cannot be true? Like we've done the blood test.
They it was negative, and Michael, being Michael, being very logical,
was like, this isn't true. I don't think that you
should get your hopes up. You need to relax. And
I was like, no, I took another one before and
it said positive. That's why I sat up right in
bed and anyway, he was like, Okay, I think we
(05:20):
should just go for a walk, go to Woolies, get
a digital pregnancy test, and if that one says pregnant,
like the words pregnant, then we can celebrate. Because he
was like, I don't want to celebrate because me being me,
I was just over the moon. I was so excited,
but in the same breath trying to control my emotions.
(05:40):
But it's a bit hard when you've never seen a
pregnancy test go positive in your life before and then
all of a sudden you have one there after trying.
So we walked down to Woolies, we got the pregnancy test,
we set up the camera and lo and behold, it
came up as pregnant, and we were so beyond excited,
(06:03):
so over the moon. We ended up doing a blood
test that day and it came back as positive. They
said that the hCG levels were a little low, so
I did another blood test and they were rising perfectly.
And then I did a follow up blood test and
again they were rising perfectly, and at six weeks pregnant,
(06:25):
we just could not keep the secret any longer. We
were so bursting with excitement. So we ended up telling
both of our parents that we were pregnant, as well
as Michael's sister and my brother and both of their partners.
And telling your family that you're pregnant is just the
best thing ever. Our parents were both just so overwhelmed,
(06:50):
excited and just so thrilled for us. And I think
with those moments, you can picture them a million times
in your head and how they're going to go, and
so sometimes things don't exactly go according to plan, but
the moments really were perfect. I actually tried to tell
my parents it's actually pretty funny. So we had to
(07:10):
make up a reason to film them because I wanted
to catch their reactions on camera. And so we said
that we were bringing out a new product for our business, Goldiebe,
and that we were going to put the product in
their hand and they had to react to it. And
I was trying to get my parents to do it,
and they had just come back from interstate and they
(07:31):
were kind of frazzled, and I was like, please just
do this Goldiebe video with me, and my Dad's like,
read the room, Anna, we're busy, and I was like furious.
I was like, you read the room. And now it's
like this huge family joke of ours, this read the
room business, because you know, my dad was not reading
the room. But he found out that night that we
(07:52):
were pregnant after we ended up having dinner with them,
and he was like, oh my god, I feel so bad.
I'm so sorry, but it's just fun because you just
you can't plan these things and however they happen is
just so special. So in case you guys are wondering,
where's your bump at, is not something that just happened
overnight or when I fell pregnant. I've actually been planning
(08:14):
this mini series now for two years. So when this
was recorded, we had been trying for four cycles. And
you'll hear Michael and I reflect a lot on pregnancy
scares we had after I got my Marina taken out
after six months of being with him. We also reflect
on my complete lack of education when it comes to
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cycles and tracking my cycles, and I think that a
lot of people can relate to that. I remember growing
up and my mum telling me very often that if
I have sex, I will get pregnant, which is very
reminiscent of the coach car scene in Me and Girls.
So let's go back to August of twenty twenty four
now and listen to Michael and I. I'm joined today
(09:05):
by my beautiful husband, Michael stainfules.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Hi, it's interesting we're doing this. I feel a little
bit nervous.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, I feel a bit weird about it, Like, yeah,
just us here. Yeah, I feel a bit nervy.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And you said we're just going to have a conversation
like we would at home.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, but now there's money being recorded.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But it's kind of like quite a real topic. Like
we're kind of getting vulnerable. So I feel like that's
maybe why we both feel nervous.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And I mean, I hate getting publicly vulnerable. So this
is this is my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
But we're just in a room together, like no one
can hear us, no one can see us, except when
this goes out to everyone.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
How long have we wanted to have kids?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I mean, I reckon. We first spoke about kids six
months into our relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, I was open to a mistake early, probably six
months in we would have been like, okay, if yeah,
it happened, yeah, but not the plan. But we were
open to whatever happened.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
We were open to it. I think I'm pretty sure
we have.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
While also being obviously safe and preventing ourselves from having kids.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, and when I met you, I actually decided I
immediately obviously knew that you were my person, and then
knowing that we were kind of potentially going to head
in that direction soon, I was like, obviously I'm not
taking the marina out to have kids, but I wanted
to give my body a bit of a break.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I think I don't know how long into our
relationship did I take it out.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think you got it taken out within the year Yeah,
of our relationship starting.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, about a year in, perhaps took it out. Started
to feel way more like myself.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah. And then we did the calendar method, yes, protection.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yours, which actually taught me, which.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Is weird, but I mean, thanks, sister. Yeah, it's not
called the calendar method, like that's got the right word
for it.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
People have the flow app and it's kind of just
tracking your cycle. Yeah, And it's so crazy because I
never knew up until thirty one. With thirty one, I
had no idea how to track my cycle, which is
so concerning because I feel like we should all be
tracking our cycle. I've only just started to kind of
(11:34):
get into the flow of my body. I know when
I'm ovulating. I kind of have always had ovulation pain,
but I just didn't really know what it was. Like
I used to get my period. When I got my period,
I was kind of like, oh, surprise to me, which
is crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I would always be less surprised when it came, obviously.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Because I'm like super moody the day.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Before for a few days.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah yeah, two days before, and then I get my
period and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I'm ducking for cover.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But we were in Mildura and I told your sister.
I was like, I'm going to track my cycle. And
they had tracked your sister and her partner had tracked
her cycle for like ten years or something and had
successfully done it for ten years, yeah, up until they
had their beautiful baby, and she kind of just explained
(12:28):
it to me. I got the flow app. I realized
that your cycle starts on the first day of your period,
which still blows my mind because you would think it
would be after the period, but no, first day of
period is the first day of cycle.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And well, I'm glad that my sister gave you sex education.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Hun, it's not sex sex education, it's cycle education. And
I think then we were tracking for a little bit,
and I think we had been in a real relationship
for nine months and we had our first pregnancy scare.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, I mean it wasn't like a complete scare. It
was I. It was I wasn't convinced person, yes you were. No.
I think sometimes we remember we both thought no, because well,
I mean, let.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Me tell this story.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Tell the story.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
So basically, I I was having a few like what
I thought were pregnancy symptoms, and then I took a
test and it was a clear blue test. And then
I left it for like half an hour and forgot
about it and came back to it and it had
two lines, a double line, and I was like, genuinely
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in my heart of hearts, was like, oh my god,
I am pregnant.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So I remember a little bit differently, which I'm nervous
about how do you remember it? Because obviously I don't
want you to make yeah, I don't want you to
feel like you've remembered this story in correctly. But I
thought it was perhaps a lot longer than thirty minutes
you left it for.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, Yeah, I'm not good with the time. I probably did.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I think it was a significant amount of time had passed.
And then you came back to the test and checked
it and it was It said pregnant.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And we both believed it because we had no idea
that evaporation lines had existed.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Right at first, you showed me a pregnancy test that
said positive and yeah. The initial reaction was, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Like my heart was racing, I was freaking out. I
was excited, I was nervous. I genuinely was like, oh
my god, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Remember yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And then that day we were actually seeing a play
with my parents.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But at this point we'd already googled a fair bit
around the results and realized there was a thing called
an evaporation land which comes outside of the test window,
which is why they tell you to check the test
within five or ten minut.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But we weren't sure, and we didn't have you, Yeah,
you were convinced. We thought we might be pregnant. We
went to a play with my parents and we told
them that we thought we might be pregnant. And this
is so sad. My parents were so happy and so excited.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, they were really excited.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
They were like thrilled because they have no grandkids and
would love, love, love love to have some grandkids. And
they were like smiling. And I didn't drink that day
because I was like, well, if I'm pregnant, I can't drink. Yeah,
and everyone else was like toasting.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
But then I mean, we unfortunately or fortunately, I don't know,
however you want to spin it, test it again the
next day and.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It was negative.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And it was negative because we still did a blood test.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Remember, because we weren't sure, I took a blood test.
I went to the doctor and took a blood test.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, I did remember that. Maybe we did think we
were pregnant.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
We are, honey, definitely thought it, I mean, and we
were like, one was positive, one was negative, like either way.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
We were excited, nervous and excited. Yeah, but I mean,
this isn't the only time you thought you were pregnant.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But that was the first of the start of many pregnants.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That was the start of the huge journey of potential pregnancies. So,
in my mind, you thought you were pregnant at least
and please correct me, maybe every second month for our
entire relation that much, three four a year.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, probably, So I kind of nauseous often, and so
I'm like, I'm nauseous? Am I pregnant?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Nauseous and irritable? Yes?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, I'm not that irritable. Really, you're painting me as like, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Like if one day you feel a bit nauseous and irritable,
your assumption is that you might be, Like if I.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Got like snappy at something, I'm like, I was just snappy.
Am I pregnant?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Well, you've thought you were pregnant in my mind every
holiday we've been on in the last two years, which
is a lot of holidays.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, and then we have to take a test because
I'm like, well, I don't want to drink if I am.
Do you know what I think it actually comes down
to is like I think I've only very recently, whilst
kind of going on this trying to get pregnant journey,
that I've realized and I think it is due to
a general lack of education from me. I've realized that
(17:38):
there's only a really small window, like twelve to forty
eight hours maximum most people who are like twelve to
twenty four hours maximum that you can get pregnant in.
And I think growing up, I've always been told if
you have sex, you will get pregnant. And I think
that's just my mom trying to be an overprotective mum
(17:59):
and trying to, you know, protect me in some way.
But that was like drummed into me as a kid.
And so we then when I got my Marina taken out,
started having sex and then I was like, there's pre come,
I'm gonna get pregnant, and like we weren't even having
sex in the ovulation window, and like I was convinced
(18:22):
I was pregnant, and I was I think I'd gone
a little bit to Lulu, But I think that's what
it's from. I think so as well, Yeah, just not knowing.
And then also I think it's also important to know,
like until you start trying to have kids, you don't
know how fertile you are, especially if you've never had
(18:43):
a pregnancy scare, like I've had pregnancy scares and that's
in quotations because they were never actually pregnancies. I've never actually,
to my knowledge, been pregnant, so I don't know how
fertile fertile I am. Yeah, And we recently started trying
(19:05):
to have a baby, like actual trying, actual trying, like
when am I ovulating, like taking using ovulation sticks, tracking
my cycle, you know, to the getting that twelve to
twenty four hour ish window and you know, going for gold.
(19:30):
And we have been trying at this moment in time,
this will be our fourth month trying, right, Yeah, And
like to be honest with you, and this is a
safe space, so no judgment. I was pretty shocked on
the first month of trying when we didn't get pregnant,
(19:50):
Like I was very shocked. And I think this is
coming from someone who is like a hypochondriac like I
was testing, you know, when we weren't trying, so like
imagine me when we are trying.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think once you start trying, all those potential fears
about maybe this won't be able to happen for us,
Like maybe this isn't going to be possible for us,
as soon as it doesn't happen in the first month
or two in the back of your head, there is
(20:23):
that inkling of doubt of like, will this ever be possible,
even though that's a completely irrational thought. Yeah, because rationally
they say it's going to take three, six, twelve months
for a healthy couple. Yeah, But I think as soon
as it doesn't happen for a few months, or as
soon as you start trying, that's when it dawns on
you that it doesn't happen for everyone and you have
(20:44):
to start potentially dealing with that.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
The first month we tried and we didn't get pregnant.
Like keeping in mind, in the two week wait, I
took a million pregnancy tests. It was ridiculous. It was
so silly and such waste of money. But I was
just so high prefixated on it and so sure I was.
I believed it to my care that we were pregnant,
and I was like, well, I'll just do it again
(21:07):
tomorrow because I want to, like know as soon.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
As you somehow had every symptom as well, and I
don't know if you somehow manifested this symptoms.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I was so sick everything. I was so sick. We
were convinced that I was pregnant on the first month.
Remember yeah, Like I had the worst headache, I was nauseou.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Every single of the checklist on the symptom boxes.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
My boobs hurt, I was getting dizzy, and then I
would like check the symptoms and I was like, I've
got it. I must be pregnant. And I tested and
I tested and I tested, And when my period came,
I was even like, oh, that must be implantation bleeding,
Like that's not my period. I was dead set that
(21:53):
I was pregnant. But then the period kind of it
wasn't implantation bleeding. It was an actual period. But I
think you are the voice of reason that I need.
You were like, I don't want you to hurt your
own feelings and do what you did last month, Like
this could take twelve months, and we can't do this
for twelve months, Anna, Like we need to live our lives.
(22:14):
Like I kind of stopped my life for those two months,
just hyper fixating on every symptom. It is a strange
time to be in, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah. I mean I think all those position them as
irrational feelings that you have, and yeah, I think I
have like two percent of them. I just bury them
deep down because there's no point, the more you hyper
fixate on something, it feels like the harder it is
(22:44):
for it to happen. So, yeah, I've kind of just thought,
let's let's just do the things that we're meant to do, yeah,
like have sex and then at the right times, yeah,
and then just not really think about it, like just
go on living life and just think not about it
at all for maybe nine months. And then after nine months,
(23:06):
then do we need to go do some tests or whatever.
But for nine months, I might let's just go with
the fly.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Wow, it's so interesting listening back to that and just
hearing how uneducated I was when it comes to talking
about cycles. On episode two of Where's You'll Bump Out,
we actually have a women's health practitioner, Nat kra and
Gudis coming onto the podcast to talk all things cycles.
She gives me a full lon education and is going
(23:37):
to help you guys so much. So make sure you
tune into that episode. It's such a gooddy and such
a good resource for women, especially if you're like me
and don't feel like you were fully educated on cycles.
Let's now go back again to August of twenty twenty four,
where Michael and I talk about our sex life during
that time and our predictions for our future kids. Let's
(24:06):
talk about this month. We're having a very chill month.
We haven't really spoken about kids, but we have had
a lot of sex. Yeah, it's been a lot, at
a point where like it's good, but we've forced ourselves
a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
What I've found more amusing and I don't know how
much how we're going to share about it. It's pretty open, right,
So you're quite obsessed with the concept not the ovulation
test this month.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, I'm on the ovulation test. I'm not obsessed, though,
I'm trying to be like, really chill. I'm just taking
the right word.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
The windows of when you think we should be having sex,
they're closing. So when you think it looks like a
positive ovulation.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Test, then I'm like, let's go back.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
What the time is now, no matter where we are.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, let's just leave it there. Yeah, let's just leave
it there. But I'm curious, I mean, do you think
a lot of people are experiencing that.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I think so, like my I don't want to say
who it is just in case they're not comfortable, but
someone who I know close to me was like she
would be like to her husband, like, let's.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Go no matter where they are.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I don't know, no matter where. I mean, I think
we were just.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Think that should be made legal. If you're ovulating, then
it's kind of free game where you have chex just
for the greater good of populations and what have you.
I think that seems like a fair law, but I'm
sure in different countries.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I mean, we did it once in an interesting location.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But it was only for the greater good.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Only because I was kind of thinking that potentially, like
if I have a twelve hour window, I was kind
of like, if we don't do it now, we won't
get to do it. And so then I was like,
let's go this month. My period started on the first
of August until the seventh, and now we're on the
(26:07):
nineteenth of August. How many times do you think we've
had sex this month? As in, like in that short
period of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven twelve days? How many times.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Is that? So this is from when you're when my
period finished, it feels like most.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Days we haven't.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Today as a clue, okay, well I'm going at least
minus one.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
From twelve nine eight. Okay, I reckon two of them.
We really pushed ourselves.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
To get the job done. We're kind of sick of
it now, aren't we? Absolutely not, We are a little.
I think the stress of the time, you know what
it is. Sometimes it's the pressure of like the time
is now. I would say eighty percent of those have
been organic experiences, but talk about a few.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It needs to happen right now.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Do you want to have next today?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yes? You do? You? Yeah, definitely, I don't think you do. Yeah, definitely,
he's lying, shining, it's lying.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He turned me down for.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That was the first thing in the morning. I hadn't
I hadn't had any nutrients or coffee.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Never did I think I would have a husband who
turning me down.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
First thing in the morning. It's I'm just like personally
not like I don't think first thing in the morning
is it for me?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Like afternoon is like earlo is preferred.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Should we do some predictions?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, let's predict.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Do you think we'll have a boy or a girl? First?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Well, we thought boy. You always thought girl, But for
the last year we've kind of thought boy. Yeah, they've
been named named It would be weird. If it was
a girl, then I would probably. I don't know's be
calling the name that we've chosen, which is a boy's name.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We've got both boy and girl names, though we've got
our name sorted.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
We've been picturing this this boy.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So you think boy, I think boy. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I don't know how disappointed you'll be if you never
have a girl.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I would love a girl at some point, but I
really do think that my prediction is that we'll have
a boy first. Yeah, we obviously both know the name,
yes we do. We've known it from like six months
into our relationship.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yes we have.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
And the girl name. We actually went through a point
where we were talking about our kids in conversation by
their name, like we were calling them by their name,
and then we were like, oh, maybe we shouldn't do
this anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I think I was like, maybe you should stop doing
this because it's possibly not healthy.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
They were like, our kids' names were.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
In existence of someone before they exist.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, they were in daily conversation, and we were like,
I don't know if this is healthy anymore. Definitely wasn't healthy,
but it was fun.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
But we don't do that anymore. Do you predict that
we're going to have? How many kids do you think
we're going to have?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I think too, just because like I'm not getting any younger,
and I've always said I don't want to, Like I
feel like I've got like a mental deadline of age
where I don't want to have more kids. But then
maybe once you've had two, you go.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
But like we've kind of experienced in the past four months,
you can't predict.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
We're both one of two.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
We are both one of two.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And I think that a lot of people generally want
the amount of kids that they come from, and I'm
just basing it on like a lot of my friends
that come from big families, I'm also wanting to have
big families.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm going to predict we're going to have three.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Kids, Okay, like what to two girls and a boy?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay, let me think, what's my prediction. I think we're
gonna have two boys and a girl. No, maybe a
boy and two girls. Yeah, that's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
A boy and two girls. Yeah, yeah, I could do three.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I could do three. Let's hope for one. Let's start
with one.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Let's start with one.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Let's put all the good vibes out into the universe
because we would absolutely love to welcome a little Staples
into the world. It's honestly crazy to hear us predict
(30:46):
that we were having a little boy. I honestly completely
forgot about that, And thank god we recorded that conversation
back in August, because I was certain that we were
having a girl from the moment I got pregnant, and
I think I probably would have forgotten about that. Speaking
of things in the past, I almost completely forgot about this.
But we are now going to hear from Michael talking
(31:08):
about some things that were very unforeseen. There's some testing
that he did and it was not as we expected.
You spoke before about getting to nine months and then
doing some testing, but we have already done half testing.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, I mean I sort of ended up testing by accident.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Do you want to explain that story?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, so yeah. I mean at this point, I think
it was like a year into our relationship and we
weren't even really well. We definitely weren't trying. We certainly
weren't thinking about it, but I think we were having
a just a Friday night in and as you generally
do at the Chemist, just getting a few random supplies
on a Friday afternoon and you're walking down at aisle
(32:02):
and you stumbled across like a sperm test at home
testing kit. And then we sort of in a very
lighthearted way, we're just like, oh, yeah, like why not.
Like it wasn't like we had this strong desire to
do it. You were just like why not. We just
grabbed it off the shelf, like why.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Wouldn't we test your spell to see if it's you.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Know, like oh crazy. We didn't even know you could
do it at home test, So yeah, it was a
why not moment. We grabbed it. We weren't even thinking
about it, and that night before we put on a movie,
we did the test and it came up with no sperm.
So ultimately the test came back potentially infertile, which was
(32:46):
a bit of a shock because.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Like we were like thinking that this was like a
fun thing to do.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, it was more like like light It was light hearted.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It was a Friday night, and we after it said
no sperm, like Michael has no sperm, we were both
just like looking at each other like, wow, did we
just stumble upon something that we had no idea about?
And then we read the instructions through again and again,
and realized that we had done it wrong because apparently
(33:18):
you have to wait.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Two days is it three two or three.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Two or three days specifically? So then we were like, okay,
so we'll go back to the chemists. Got another one.
They're not cheap as well, they were like maybe fifty
sixty dollars. Got another one, waited three days, you did
it again, and it came back no sperm. Yeah, And
(33:42):
I was like.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
So then at this point there.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Was like, you looked like you had seen it go,
so you were really worried.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Completely fair enough, Yeah, I mean it wasn't like I
was doing sort of such. I was trying to figure
out how accurate these tests were. It looked like, based
on everything I could find line, they were mostly accurate.
But then there was a few glimmers of hope of
some potential feedback that perhaps these were one hundred percent accurate. Yeah,
which is when I decided to do a proper test
(34:13):
at the hospital.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Him off, I dropped you off. Explain how that happens, Like,
how do you do a sperm test at the hospital?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Oh? I never thought I'd be sharing this experience publicly,
but here we are. So yeah, ultimately, you just do.
You do the deed, and then you need to get
to a hospital within thirty minutes to drop off the sampoint.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
We drove it, We rushed it.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah, and then dropped it off and then within
like yeah, a couple of days, it comes back. But
it ultimately says the levels, so the volume, the potentially
the mobility, and maybe the speed. There's like a couple
of different categories, and then it kind of has a
(35:00):
range where it's considered a normal range. And I came
back a normal range for all of those.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
So wasn't there one that was like a little bit less.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It was on the lower end of the normal range.
The volume the volume, right, so the volume sat on
the lower end of the normal range. But it's still
said in the results that it came back as a
normal test but.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Maybe still speedy.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah. I mean, again, don't quote me on the full
accuracy of this, but in my eyes, the way I
read the test was there was slightly less of that
normal range, but they were fast and mobile. It was
pretty much my interpretation of the results. And probably it
(35:50):
looks like from that test, it looks like I'm fertile
and you've also tested well a couple.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Of years ago, I did a test that you can
do where you go to your local GP and it
tells you how many follicles you have. But apparently that
test you need to get it done pretty much like
every year for it to be accurate, like they can
drop significantly in a year. So I haven't yet done
that test, but I mean, who knows, Maybe I'll do
(36:21):
it in a couple of months if we still haven't conceived.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, but I think that will be in like what
six months, we might consider doing that.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, but positive vibes, right.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, positive vibes of course.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And here we are today. I'm currently in this moment,
twenty five weeks pregnant. I honestly can't believe it. I
feel so lucky and so grateful. Guys, thank you so
much for tuning into the very first episode of Where's
Your Bump? Hat. I really want you guys to get
involved in this, so please send me voice notes. I'm
going to include as many of them as I can
(36:58):
in the show, and make sure to check tu in
to the upcoming episodes. We have so much great content
coming your way. Next episode, we have Nat talking all
things cycles, and we have so many experts helping us
all learn together. We have doctor Golly, we have osteopaths,
OB's and so much more. So I won't give it
(37:19):
all away now, but I cannot wait to chat to
you next week. Starting a new chapter in your life
can be scary, so let's do this one together. Lots
of love, Anna,
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