October 22, 2025 • 10 mins
Welcome back to our 3rd instalment of our new second-weekly show: Where's Your Headline At? On this episode, we're discussing recent articles featuring Matt crying and clearing up what's really going on.. plus Anna brings a story about a world-famous stalker, let us know your thoughts in the FB group or Instagram x
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I want someone who like aligns with me, is obsessed with.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Me, obsessed with Good morning Anna, and welcome to Where's
your Headline? At?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hello? What is your headline of the wei?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Okay? So I've brought this one because I feel like
this is a recommendation as well as something I want
to clear up.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I go for I'm worried.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So it is. The headline reads is Everything? Okay? Question mark.
Matt Sakowski shares video crying after ex wife joins dating app.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So you put a headline about yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
There's going to be a bit of that here, I feel,
don't you like?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I feel like that's why Where's your Headline? Is good?
Because we can really clear.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Some things up and bring some headlines which we love,
and we can bring in some old ones clear them
up as well.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, So first question I have to ask, were you
crying that your ex wife was on dating apps?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Absolutely not, Anna, I.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Just checking because I think you ever.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, I was. And so I actually watched this movie
that my sister recommend to us. We're having a family dinner.
Yeah yeah. So it was called the Art of Racing
in the Rain. So this movie was about a guy
who was a car racer, and he bought a puppy,
a dog, and it showed the dog with him like
(01:22):
his whole life, and it was from the perspective of
the dog. The narrator was the dog talking, right, so
you were seeing what the dog was talking and you're
seeing it from the dog's lens, Like he wish he
could do stuff, but he can't. He's like, I don't
have thumbs, my tongue won't let me speak, and then yeah,
and then you watch him get like a wife and
have a kid and the dog like and yeah. And
it was just really because obviously I have in my
(01:44):
life a Golden Retriever dexter. Your sisters, my sister's dog,
which I love like my own, is the best, best
guy out there. I wish I could listen to this
and hear me say that about him. I really wish
he could.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Matt is such a dog person. It's so hilarious because
he's never grew up with a dog and his ex's
family had a dog and he was like, I'm so
obsessed with this dog breed. And now his sister has
got a Golden Retriever and he's like, I'm so obsessed
with Golden Retrievers. I was like, dude, I think you're
just a dog person.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Tested dog I am, I think I am, and I
just don't. I never grew up with one, so I
never really have let that. But a lot of my
mate say you're a dog person. You're such a dog person.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
He just learned it later in life. Yeah, well this
makes me laugh because I need to chime in. So anyway,
last week Matt calls me and we're just having a
general chit chat, and that's telling me about this movie.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What's it called, The Art of Racing in the Rain.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
The Art of Racing in the Rain. If you love dogs,
go watch it. And if you want to cry, go
watch it. Because Matt, whilst telling me about this plotline,
burst out crying. Was hysterical talk the dog. I don't
want to give it away, but like, I think you
can imagine what's about to happen to the dog. He's like,
the dog went back to the racetrack. Okay. I'm like,
(03:08):
you need someone go check on back. I'm a little
bit concerned.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I was like, yeah, he was like driving in
the Yeah, I don't want to talk abounything.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Let's not do any spoilers want to watch, but it is.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
A great movie. If you want to cry, you're going
to cry. I've ever watched Marley and Me. Apparently that
as well as sad as.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I have borne my eyes out.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I don't watch movies to cry normally, Whither do I?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I avoid them? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I avoid them.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
When The Titanic, like when the ship starts sinking, Like
there's a part like after the sex scene, stay for
that is that during the sinking of the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Ship in the back of the car and the fog
on the window. It's a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Before and there for that, and then when the ship
starts sinking, it gets dire. I turned it off. Same
with what's that movie?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
What the Notebook?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, the Notebook? I turn it off with the end scene, Like.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No way, I watched the Notebook. Probably I reckon You're
eight or something, and I watched it since because I cried.
There's no need. I don't like watching movies to cry.
But my sister, well, my sister was boring her eyes
out and Dexter was with us. So we're all going
up and giving Dexter big hugs and kisses, and he's
just like, I had no idea what was going on.
But if you believe the movie, which is this is
a long stretch, the dog knows one hundred percent what's
(04:17):
going on and he wishes he could talk.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's going to cry. I'm not okay, So let's go
back to the article. The article, yes, talking about how
you're crying about well ex wife.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, I put a video up. So I rated the
movie and then I put a video because I filmed
myself like afterwards when I was crying. But I did
it more of like a jest way of like I
just boiled my eyes out to this to a dog
to a dog movie, you know what I mean. Like
I was more taking the piss out of myself poto. No,
it was a video and I'm like talking on my
wife and my tears away. It was more taking the
piss out of myself it yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So what they've done this is so interesting that the
media does this. They've taken whatever ubak you've recently posted
where you were emotions all and like joined it with
something else. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I mean I get the clickbait aspect of it, like
cudos to them, you're doing your job, but like IM
just clearing the air. No, I was not I was
crying because beautiful Golden Retriever that I fell in love
with in the movie.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Are you gonna get your own dog?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah? I want to, but it's a huge responsibility. Puppies
aren't just for Christmas. And you do love Chris. I
do love Christmas. But that's the saying, you know what
I mean, And it's just.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
You're so obsessive. I think you would be like a good.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Dog dad, but yeah, I would be. But like you know,
I like to travel, and then I'm putting that not
like you're putting that responsibility on someone else, which mean, yeah,
Mum would love that as well as like he could
probably hang out with Dexter if I got my own
Golden retriever.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
True, anyway, maybe a future.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Future I would love. I would love my own my
own Golden Retriever. Yeah, I love well, I've got so
much love to give to Dexter at the moment, like
love him.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Okay, So my headline of the week comes from Explain.
It reads, in twenty seventeen, a man got thirty seven
plastic surgeries and changed his name to date his ex
girlfriend again after her restraining order on him. When I
read this, it was like what on earth? There's an
(06:15):
image of this guy looking like really old, and then
he's obviously had thirty seven different procedures, changed his hair
color from brunette to blonde. Literally looks like a different person.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He's put a bit of structure in his face.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, Like he's to be honest, Like, the plastic doesn't
look that bad. Yeah, but this article, like is so
deeply concerning on so many levels. It honestly had me shook.
So I'm going to read a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Basically, in twenty seventeen, a man reportedly underwent thirty seven
plastic surgeries and legally changed his name, all to disguise
himself and date his ex girlfriend again despite her restraining order.
The case shocked investigators, who said his transformation was so
extreme that even close friends did not recognize him. It's
(07:00):
since been dubbed at the most disturbing case of obsession
meets plastic surgery. It honestly, that's terrifying that someone would
go to such levels of extreme So get like to
see his ex girlfriend man thirty seven plastic surgeries.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
At what point is the surgeon or going, hey, I've
worked on you thirty six times, or hey, you've got
a record of thirty six plastic surgeries.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Maybe he's gone to different people, maybe, but there's a
record somewey. Maybe they broke up, he was feeling a
bit shit and he's like, let's get a new jaw
line going. I guess that would be philly though kind
yet piller. Yeah, I don't know what he's had done.
He looks like he potentially has had a no job.
Maybe he's like, let's get a nose job.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He's at his lips done.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, but that's like an injection.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I'm not familiar with plastic surgery, but.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Maybe they're talking about like filler and botox as well.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, because he looks like a completely different.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Persons, got a fully new hairline. So he's gone to
Turkey at some point because he's trying to make himself
feel better. And then he's thought, hey.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Different color, aren't they?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
No? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
No, they're not. They're just better lighting in that second
photo light. Yeah. Look, he has a clearly a mental
health issue of obsession. Like that is huge, That is
next level.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
The thing that scares me about stalking is like stalking
and killing someone are on the same wavelength, Like it
starts as stalking, and it can get worse and worse
and worse until it gets aggravated and then that person
can take it a step too far. But stalking, there
actually isn't good enough laws in Australia to protect people
(08:35):
from stalkers. Like for a normal stalking case, it's up
to five years in prison. Five years.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's nothing for a normal stalking case. So that's like
just go.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Like, so I feel like stalking someone, like they've told.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You to stop, and you breach your restraining order.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You have to probably breach it. I reckon. Yeah, maybe
a few times with more aggravated cases, so like for example,
they're be domestic violence, there might be multiple restraining orders
that keep getting breached, they keep violating them, the offended
potentially has weapons. The penalty is only up to seven
years imprisonment.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, it's not long enough, is it.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's not long enough because the next part, like the
next part of that after they've been stalking you with
a weapon, breaching restraining orders more that like violent is
potentially killing someone. Have you seen that stalker documentary? There's
a Netflix show and it talks about all the different
like there's because.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
There's levels of stalking.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
There's levels of stork.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
This is like like massive level of stalking, and then
there's like.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
This is like terrifying. I don't know what the solution is.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Imagine if you put that obsession into something healthy, like gardening,
start a business, start a business, make some.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Money, make some money, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Then she might want to come back to you. She's
successful and doing well in life.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And maybe if you focus on yourself then maybe you'd be.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Like, actually, I don't need a woman.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I want I want someone who like aligns with me,
that is obsessed with me.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He doesn't need anyone. He's doing his own thing. Who
knows true.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Okay, guys, if you have any headlines that you come
across this week that raise your eyebrows or shock you
to your core, send them through. We would love to
react to them on the podcast. That's doing the T
sign at the camera and until next time, Bye,
I want someone who like aligns with me, is obsessed with.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Me, obsessed with Good morning Anna, and welcome to Where's
your Headline? At?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hello? What is your headline of the wei?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Okay? So I've brought this one because I feel like
this is a recommendation as well as something I want
to clear up.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I go for I'm worried.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So it is. The headline reads is Everything? Okay? Question mark.
Matt Sakowski shares video crying after ex wife joins dating app.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So you put a headline about yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
There's going to be a bit of that here, I feel,
don't you like?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I feel like that's why Where's your Headline? Is good?
Because we can really clear.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Some things up and bring some headlines which we love,
and we can bring in some old ones clear them
up as well.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, So first question I have to ask, were you
crying that your ex wife was on dating apps?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Absolutely not, Anna, I.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Just checking because I think you ever.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, I was. And so I actually watched this movie
that my sister recommend to us. We're having a family dinner.
Yeah yeah. So it was called the Art of Racing
in the Rain. So this movie was about a guy
who was a car racer, and he bought a puppy,
a dog, and it showed the dog with him like
(01:22):
his whole life, and it was from the perspective of
the dog. The narrator was the dog talking, right, so
you were seeing what the dog was talking and you're
seeing it from the dog's lens, Like he wish he
could do stuff, but he can't. He's like, I don't
have thumbs, my tongue won't let me speak, and then yeah,
and then you watch him get like a wife and
have a kid and the dog like and yeah. And
it was just really because obviously I have in my
(01:44):
life a Golden Retriever dexter. Your sisters, my sister's dog,
which I love like my own, is the best, best
guy out there. I wish I could listen to this
and hear me say that about him. I really wish
he could.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Matt is such a dog person. It's so hilarious because
he's never grew up with a dog and his ex's
family had a dog and he was like, I'm so
obsessed with this dog breed. And now his sister has
got a Golden Retriever and he's like, I'm so obsessed
with Golden Retrievers. I was like, dude, I think you're
just a dog person.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Tested dog I am, I think I am, and I
just don't. I never grew up with one, so I
never really have let that. But a lot of my
mate say you're a dog person. You're such a dog person.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
He just learned it later in life. Yeah, well this
makes me laugh because I need to chime in. So anyway,
last week Matt calls me and we're just having a
general chit chat, and that's telling me about this movie.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What's it called, The Art of Racing in the Rain.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
The Art of Racing in the Rain. If you love dogs,
go watch it. And if you want to cry, go
watch it. Because Matt, whilst telling me about this plotline,
burst out crying. Was hysterical talk the dog. I don't
want to give it away, but like, I think you
can imagine what's about to happen to the dog. He's like,
the dog went back to the racetrack. Okay. I'm like,
(03:08):
you need someone go check on back. I'm a little
bit concerned.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I was like, yeah, he was like driving in
the Yeah, I don't want to talk abounything.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Let's not do any spoilers want to watch, but it is.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
A great movie. If you want to cry, you're going
to cry. I've ever watched Marley and Me. Apparently that
as well as sad as.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I have borne my eyes out.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I don't watch movies to cry normally, Whither do I?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I avoid them? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I avoid them.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
When The Titanic, like when the ship starts sinking, Like
there's a part like after the sex scene, stay for
that is that during the sinking of the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Ship in the back of the car and the fog
on the window. It's a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Before and there for that, and then when the ship
starts sinking, it gets dire. I turned it off. Same
with what's that movie?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
What the Notebook?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, the Notebook? I turn it off with the end scene, Like.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No way, I watched the Notebook. Probably I reckon You're
eight or something, and I watched it since because I cried.
There's no need. I don't like watching movies to cry.
But my sister, well, my sister was boring her eyes
out and Dexter was with us. So we're all going
up and giving Dexter big hugs and kisses, and he's
just like, I had no idea what was going on.
But if you believe the movie, which is this is
a long stretch, the dog knows one hundred percent what's
(04:17):
going on and he wishes he could talk.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's going to cry. I'm not okay, So let's go
back to the article. The article, yes, talking about how
you're crying about well ex wife.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, I put a video up. So I rated the
movie and then I put a video because I filmed
myself like afterwards when I was crying. But I did
it more of like a jest way of like I
just boiled my eyes out to this to a dog
to a dog movie, you know what I mean. Like
I was more taking the piss out of myself poto. No,
it was a video and I'm like talking on my
wife and my tears away. It was more taking the
piss out of myself it yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So what they've done this is so interesting that the
media does this. They've taken whatever ubak you've recently posted
where you were emotions all and like joined it with
something else. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I mean I get the clickbait aspect of it, like
cudos to them, you're doing your job, but like IM
just clearing the air. No, I was not I was
crying because beautiful Golden Retriever that I fell in love
with in the movie.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Are you gonna get your own dog?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah? I want to, but it's a huge responsibility. Puppies
aren't just for Christmas. And you do love Chris. I
do love Christmas. But that's the saying, you know what
I mean, And it's just.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
You're so obsessive. I think you would be like a good.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Dog dad, but yeah, I would be. But like you know,
I like to travel, and then I'm putting that not
like you're putting that responsibility on someone else, which mean, yeah,
Mum would love that as well as like he could
probably hang out with Dexter if I got my own
Golden retriever.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
True, anyway, maybe a future.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Future I would love. I would love my own my
own Golden Retriever. Yeah, I love well, I've got so
much love to give to Dexter at the moment, like
love him.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Okay, So my headline of the week comes from Explain.
It reads, in twenty seventeen, a man got thirty seven
plastic surgeries and changed his name to date his ex
girlfriend again after her restraining order on him. When I
read this, it was like what on earth? There's an
(06:15):
image of this guy looking like really old, and then
he's obviously had thirty seven different procedures, changed his hair
color from brunette to blonde. Literally looks like a different person.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
He's put a bit of structure in his face.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, Like he's to be honest, Like, the plastic doesn't
look that bad. Yeah, but this article, like is so
deeply concerning on so many levels. It honestly had me shook.
So I'm going to read a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Basically, in twenty seventeen, a man reportedly underwent thirty seven
plastic surgeries and legally changed his name, all to disguise
himself and date his ex girlfriend again despite her restraining order.
The case shocked investigators, who said his transformation was so
extreme that even close friends did not recognize him. It's
(07:00):
since been dubbed at the most disturbing case of obsession
meets plastic surgery. It honestly, that's terrifying that someone would
go to such levels of extreme So get like to
see his ex girlfriend man thirty seven plastic surgeries.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
At what point is the surgeon or going, hey, I've
worked on you thirty six times, or hey, you've got
a record of thirty six plastic surgeries.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Maybe he's gone to different people, maybe, but there's a
record somewey. Maybe they broke up, he was feeling a
bit shit and he's like, let's get a new jaw
line going. I guess that would be philly though kind
yet piller. Yeah, I don't know what he's had done.
He looks like he potentially has had a no job.
Maybe he's like, let's get a nose job.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
He's at his lips done.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, but that's like an injection.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I'm not familiar with plastic surgery, but.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Maybe they're talking about like filler and botox as well.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, because he looks like a completely different.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Persons, got a fully new hairline. So he's gone to
Turkey at some point because he's trying to make himself
feel better. And then he's thought, hey.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Different color, aren't they?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
No? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
No, they're not. They're just better lighting in that second
photo light. Yeah. Look, he has a clearly a mental
health issue of obsession. Like that is huge, That is
next level.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
The thing that scares me about stalking is like stalking
and killing someone are on the same wavelength, Like it
starts as stalking, and it can get worse and worse
and worse until it gets aggravated and then that person
can take it a step too far. But stalking, there
actually isn't good enough laws in Australia to protect people
(08:35):
from stalkers. Like for a normal stalking case, it's up
to five years in prison. Five years.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's nothing for a normal stalking case. So that's like
just go.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Like, so I feel like stalking someone, like they've told.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You to stop, and you breach your restraining order.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You have to probably breach it. I reckon. Yeah, maybe
a few times with more aggravated cases, so like for example,
they're be domestic violence, there might be multiple restraining orders
that keep getting breached, they keep violating them, the offended
potentially has weapons. The penalty is only up to seven
years imprisonment.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, it's not long enough, is it.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's not long enough because the next part, like the
next part of that after they've been stalking you with
a weapon, breaching restraining orders more that like violent is
potentially killing someone. Have you seen that stalker documentary? There's
a Netflix show and it talks about all the different
like there's because.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
There's levels of stalking.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
There's levels of stork.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
This is like like massive level of stalking, and then
there's like.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
This is like terrifying. I don't know what the solution is.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Imagine if you put that obsession into something healthy, like gardening,
start a business, start a business, make some.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Money, make some money, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Then she might want to come back to you. She's
successful and doing well in life.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And maybe if you focus on yourself then maybe you'd be.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Like, actually, I don't need a woman.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I want I want someone who like aligns with me,
that is obsessed with me.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He doesn't need anyone. He's doing his own thing. Who
knows true.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Okay, guys, if you have any headlines that you come
across this week that raise your eyebrows or shock you
to your core, send them through. We would love to
react to them on the podcast. That's doing the T
sign at the camera and until next time, Bye,
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