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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, I want to respond to someone who
texted about my whole thing about batteries and renewable energy
and all this stuff, and I cannot find it now
because so many people were tell me how many batteries?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Was the question how many batteries?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Because I said it would take it enormous about of
batteries to run Denver for forty eight hours off battery power.
So I went to I called my assistant Chat GBT,
and I asked Chat to crunch the numbers using today's technology,
how much battery power and what kind of space would
you need for such battery power to run the Denver
Metro based on current usage for forty eight hours? So
(00:38):
for two days, okay, And you know that we've had
days where a couple days where nothing is happening.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We're going to need this. Here's what it came back to.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So, first of all, we're talking about industrial scale batteries
that are in shipping containers. Okay, So you know how
big a shipping container is, and you're thinking how many of.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Those do we need?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, between thirty five thousand and six steve thousand of
those size batteries. We need a land area that is
between one thousand and two thousand acres, which is about
three square miles. And that doesn't even count like any
of the remediation and mitigation that.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Has to go on around these places.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That is why renewables in twenty forty is a complete
fantasy as of right now. That stat alone, Where are
we going to put all these You want him in
your backyard?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I don't want him in mine.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't know about Sheriff Steve Riems from Weld County,
but I bet he doesn't want them in his either.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Sheriff, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So I have a question for you, and that is simple.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You have decided to put on not just you, but
you have decided to put on a gubernatorial debate in
Weld County with Steve Wells, one of my favorite people.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I love Steve.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
What inspired this to do it first? Because I think
this is the first big formal debate, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, So we were sitting around talking and there have
been several forums and these arms kind of grow to
a size where they're really not that informative because you
end up with twelve or fourteen or sixteen candidates and
you know not to talk down to any of the candidates,
but some of them don't take this real serious. And
so Steve and I were having a conversation along with
a few others, about, you know, who are the most
(02:17):
relevant candidates, And I looked up what each candidate had raised,
and we kind of narrowed it down to what we
believed were the top six by either what they had
raised or what they could raise, and who had the
most name recognition, and so it kind of just took
off from there. We picked a date and decided a location,
and I asked you and Ryan Schuling if you'd be
(02:37):
willing to be moderators, and the thing kind of hit
the ground in about forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I let's say it was fast.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean I get invited to a lot of stuff,
but this thing turned around super fast. We started out
with six invitations out five people. Almost four people immediately responded.
One of them was a little delayed because he had
lost his father at the almost the exact same time.
But one of the main candidates that I was looking
forward to hearing from was Victor Marx, and Victor basically
(03:04):
said nah. I mean, first he said, I've got a conflict,
and then there was a back and forth of hey,
we'll move the date.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You know, and he basically said, no, I'm not going
to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So that left us with five and then in the
last what four or five days, two of the candidates
have decided to go in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Greg Lopez became an unaffiliated candidate. So since this is
a Republican for uhim, he was I guess disinvited from
the from participating. I think he's still going to be
in the crowd, but he's not going to be on stage.
And then Mark basically switched his race to run for
US Senate, which I think in his for him, I
think that's a really smart move, less crowded field, and
(03:45):
he definitely has the mindset of a guy that could
be a state a US senator. So that leaves us
with Barb Kirkmeyer, Scott Bottoms, and Jason Mike Sel And
really I think it's it's going to make for a
very entertaining event because now instead of, you know, more
of that form style, we can get into more of
a debate format and you know, kind of get the
(04:06):
some distance between the two or between the three candidates
and kind of figure out where they differ more than
where they agree.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I guess I am looking forward to having a substantial
conversation about.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The issues, right.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I am looking forward to talking about the things that
are the most important to the citizens of Colorado. And
though I don't expect any candidate to have, like, here's
my forty seven point detailed plan of what I'm going
to do, but I would like to have some sense
of where the direction would go and how they would
try to move things in that direction, right, I want
(04:39):
a little more than pablum, I guess is what I'm
looking for here.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, you know, I get a chance to fill in
on Dan Kaplis's show, and I've interviewed a lot of
these folks, and one of the things you and I
were talking about off air was the roadways in Colorado.
And when you ask any of the candidates, you know,
what are they going to do to address the conditions
of the roadways in Colorado. There's just not that much
time to answer a question during a radio interview or
even in some of these forums. And I think that's
(05:05):
a leading issue for a lot of voters in Colorado.
And maybe we'll get maybe we'll get a question like
that at this debate.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
But oh, I can assure you we will get a
question like that of this debate. I'm you know that's
going to happen. See to me, that question is not
difficult to answer. If I'm a candidate Steve and someone says,
what are you going to do about the roads, the
first thing I say is, I'm fundamentally changing the direction
of the Colorado Department of Transportation. I Am no longer
(05:32):
going to put my all of the eggs in the
basket of multi modal mass transportation that people don't want
to ride. That is my answer. Like to me, start there,
you know, and then we can detail conversations.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It really does come down to budget priorities of the
state of Colorado. The governor has a lot of emphasis
over and you know, we're going to see where their
priorities lie. But again, I want to see where they
differ more than they agreed, because that is what makes
the difference in me these these gubernatorial debates, especially when
you're talking about just one party. We know all of
(06:05):
these folks would be better choices of what's on the
Democrat side, but we need to figure out what distances
that each one of them from the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Pack, Steve, how much, because I got to tell you,
I used to kind of pooh pooh this when I
was more dogmatic. Now I'm much more pragmatic and I
just want to win, right like, we we can't change
anything in Colorado if we can't get people elected. How
much does electability need to be a part of a conversation?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I think it has to be a you know, it's
a it's a major factor if you're unlikable, if you're
if you're a person that can't resonate with the voters,
it's really hard for people to listen to your message.
So you do have to be able to deliver a message.
You do have to be, you know, somewhat of a
figure that people can get behind. But there's a way
to win folks over, and oftentimes that's by talking to
(06:55):
the issues that matter to them and being approachable. And
these these bits in these forums really highlight if a
person can get to that place.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, I'm looking forward to it. What time is the
debate on Saturday? I know, Steve, I'm just letting you
say what.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It'll kick off at one thirty. We encourage people to
get there early. Obviously, it goes from one thirty to
three thirty, and those are pretty shark times. We're not
going to drag this thing out. We want people to
have their Saturday and a lot of these candidates have
other things that they're going to afterwards, so we'll keep
a pretty tight timeline and hold their feet to the fire,
you know, hopefully pump a lot of information out of
(07:31):
them in a short amount of time and get the
answers for the people that are in attendance.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, I would advise anybody who wants to come that
you need to get your tickets now because I went
to get one for Chuck. I did get one for
Chuck earlier, so Chuck is going to be there too,
But they're almost they're almost gone, so if you want
to participate. But are people going to be able to
see this? Is it going to be videotaped and streamed later?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I don't know if we're going to live stream it,
tape it and stream it later. We haven't really discussed
that because a lot of it's going to depend on
we have for people in attendance that can help us
with that. I don't have the technology to do that
on my own, but we're still working on thost details.
If nothing else, I'm sure there will be some highlights
that'll get shared after the event.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, see, this is one of those things.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
This question from my text line right now, Mandy, please
ask if they're going to pardon or commute Tina Peters.
That's one hundred percent non starter for me. I will
not vote for anyone that does. She's a criminal.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I legitimately don't give a rats ass about Tina Peters,
and I think a lot of voters don't. But that
is another trap question because in the primary, Oh, you're
going to be able to cater to the people who
are most likely to vote in the primary, But that's
going to be a killer in the general election. And
that's what I'm trying to impart. And I'm not mad
at you text her for asking the question. A lot
of people have the question. I'm just saying, we've got
(08:47):
to think about how those questions are going to be
used against you in the general election.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That matters.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well. We talked about doing like a lightning round where
we have some yes or no questions, and I'm sure
that's people are going to expect that to be one
of them questions and I don't know if it will
or won't be You and Ryan get to decide most
of that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So I mean, if everybody in the room wants the
question asked, I'm going to ask the question, right. I'm
not going to pay a jerk about it. But at
the same time, Republicans, please stop. If you want to
change things in Colorado, we have to stop looking backwards
and we have to start talking about solving problems in
Colorado period.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well, and there's there's been a lot of division over
whether it's a pardon or a commutation. You know that
those two things have different meanings. But some people want
to full pardon, and you know commuting the sentences would
not be enough. And you know, at this point, I
just want a Republican.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
To win, thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
That's anybody we have on the Republican side is a
better option than what is on the Democrat side. So
if we're going to shoot ourselves in the foot over
over an issue like that, I hate to word it
that way, but if that's the thing that's going to
keep you from voting for a Republican candidate, then I
hope you like Michael Bennet or Phil Wiser.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Correct staff Steve Reems is my guest. He has worked
with Steve Wells to put together Saturday's event.
First of all, I want to respond to someone who
texted about my whole thing about batteries and renewable energy
and all this stuff, and I cannot find it now
because so many people were tell me how many batteries?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Was the question how many batteries?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Because I said it would take it enormous about of
batteries to run Denver for forty eight hours off battery power.
So I went to I called my assistant Chat GBT,
and I asked Chat to crunch the numbers using today's technology,
how much battery power and what kind of space would
you need for such battery power to run the Denver
Metro based on current usage for forty eight hours? So
(00:38):
for two days, okay, And you know that we've had
days where a couple days where nothing is happening.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We're going to need this. Here's what it came back to.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So, first of all, we're talking about industrial scale batteries
that are in shipping containers. Okay, So you know how
big a shipping container is, and you're thinking how many of.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Those do we need?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, between thirty five thousand and six steve thousand of
those size batteries. We need a land area that is
between one thousand and two thousand acres, which is about
three square miles. And that doesn't even count like any
of the remediation and mitigation that.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Has to go on around these places.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That is why renewables in twenty forty is a complete
fantasy as of right now. That stat alone, Where are
we going to put all these You want him in
your backyard?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I don't want him in mine.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't know about Sheriff Steve Riems from Weld County,
but I bet he doesn't want them in his either.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Sheriff, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So I have a question for you, and that is simple.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You have decided to put on not just you, but
you have decided to put on a gubernatorial debate in
Weld County with Steve Wells, one of my favorite people.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I love Steve.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
What inspired this to do it first? Because I think
this is the first big formal debate, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, So we were sitting around talking and there have
been several forums and these arms kind of grow to
a size where they're really not that informative because you
end up with twelve or fourteen or sixteen candidates and
you know not to talk down to any of the candidates,
but some of them don't take this real serious. And
so Steve and I were having a conversation along with
a few others, about, you know, who are the most
(02:17):
relevant candidates, And I looked up what each candidate had raised,
and we kind of narrowed it down to what we
believed were the top six by either what they had
raised or what they could raise, and who had the
most name recognition, and so it kind of just took
off from there. We picked a date and decided a location,
and I asked you and Ryan Schuling if you'd be
(02:37):
willing to be moderators, and the thing kind of hit
the ground in about forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I let's say it was fast.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean I get invited to a lot of stuff,
but this thing turned around super fast. We started out
with six invitations out five people. Almost four people immediately responded.
One of them was a little delayed because he had
lost his father at the almost the exact same time.
But one of the main candidates that I was looking
forward to hearing from was Victor Marx, and Victor basically
(03:04):
said nah. I mean, first he said, I've got a conflict,
and then there was a back and forth of hey,
we'll move the date.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You know, and he basically said, no, I'm not going
to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So that left us with five and then in the
last what four or five days, two of the candidates
have decided to go in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Greg Lopez became an unaffiliated candidate. So since this is
a Republican for uhim, he was I guess disinvited from
the from participating. I think he's still going to be
in the crowd, but he's not going to be on stage.
And then Mark basically switched his race to run for
US Senate, which I think in his for him, I
think that's a really smart move, less crowded field, and
(03:45):
he definitely has the mindset of a guy that could
be a state a US senator. So that leaves us
with Barb Kirkmeyer, Scott Bottoms, and Jason Mike Sel And
really I think it's it's going to make for a
very entertaining event because now instead of, you know, more
of that form style, we can get into more of
a debate format and you know, kind of get the
(04:06):
some distance between the two or between the three candidates
and kind of figure out where they differ more than
where they agree.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I guess I am looking forward to having a substantial
conversation about.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The issues, right.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I am looking forward to talking about the things that
are the most important to the citizens of Colorado. And
though I don't expect any candidate to have, like, here's
my forty seven point detailed plan of what I'm going
to do, but I would like to have some sense
of where the direction would go and how they would
try to move things in that direction, right, I want
(04:39):
a little more than pablum, I guess is what I'm
looking for here.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, you know, I get a chance to fill in
on Dan Kaplis's show, and I've interviewed a lot of
these folks, and one of the things you and I
were talking about off air was the roadways in Colorado.
And when you ask any of the candidates, you know,
what are they going to do to address the conditions
of the roadways in Colorado. There's just not that much
time to answer a question during a radio interview or
even in some of these forums. And I think that's
(05:05):
a leading issue for a lot of voters in Colorado.
And maybe we'll get maybe we'll get a question like
that at this debate.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
But oh, I can assure you we will get a
question like that of this debate. I'm you know that's
going to happen. See to me, that question is not
difficult to answer. If I'm a candidate Steve and someone says,
what are you going to do about the roads, the
first thing I say is, I'm fundamentally changing the direction
of the Colorado Department of Transportation. I Am no longer
(05:32):
going to put my all of the eggs in the
basket of multi modal mass transportation that people don't want
to ride. That is my answer. Like to me, start there,
you know, and then we can detail conversations.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It really does come down to budget priorities of the
state of Colorado. The governor has a lot of emphasis
over and you know, we're going to see where their
priorities lie. But again, I want to see where they
differ more than they agreed, because that is what makes
the difference in me these these gubernatorial debates, especially when
you're talking about just one party. We know all of
(06:05):
these folks would be better choices of what's on the
Democrat side, but we need to figure out what distances
that each one of them from the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Pack, Steve, how much, because I got to tell you,
I used to kind of pooh pooh this when I
was more dogmatic. Now I'm much more pragmatic and I
just want to win, right like, we we can't change
anything in Colorado if we can't get people elected. How
much does electability need to be a part of a conversation?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I think it has to be a you know, it's
a it's a major factor if you're unlikable, if you're
if you're a person that can't resonate with the voters,
it's really hard for people to listen to your message.
So you do have to be able to deliver a message.
You do have to be, you know, somewhat of a
figure that people can get behind. But there's a way
to win folks over, and oftentimes that's by talking to
(06:55):
the issues that matter to them and being approachable. And
these these bits in these forums really highlight if a
person can get to that place.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, I'm looking forward to it. What time is the
debate on Saturday? I know, Steve, I'm just letting you
say what.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It'll kick off at one thirty. We encourage people to
get there early. Obviously, it goes from one thirty to
three thirty, and those are pretty shark times. We're not
going to drag this thing out. We want people to
have their Saturday and a lot of these candidates have
other things that they're going to afterwards, so we'll keep
a pretty tight timeline and hold their feet to the fire,
you know, hopefully pump a lot of information out of
(07:31):
them in a short amount of time and get the
answers for the people that are in attendance.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, I would advise anybody who wants to come that
you need to get your tickets now because I went
to get one for Chuck. I did get one for
Chuck earlier, so Chuck is going to be there too,
But they're almost they're almost gone, so if you want
to participate. But are people going to be able to
see this? Is it going to be videotaped and streamed later?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I don't know if we're going to live stream it,
tape it and stream it later. We haven't really discussed
that because a lot of it's going to depend on
we have for people in attendance that can help us
with that. I don't have the technology to do that
on my own, but we're still working on thost details.
If nothing else, I'm sure there will be some highlights
that'll get shared after the event.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, see, this is one of those things.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
This question from my text line right now, Mandy, please
ask if they're going to pardon or commute Tina Peters.
That's one hundred percent non starter for me. I will
not vote for anyone that does. She's a criminal.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I legitimately don't give a rats ass about Tina Peters,
and I think a lot of voters don't. But that
is another trap question because in the primary, Oh, you're
going to be able to cater to the people who
are most likely to vote in the primary, But that's
going to be a killer in the general election. And
that's what I'm trying to impart. And I'm not mad
at you text her for asking the question. A lot
of people have the question. I'm just saying, we've got
(08:47):
to think about how those questions are going to be
used against you in the general election.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That matters.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well. We talked about doing like a lightning round where
we have some yes or no questions, and I'm sure
that's people are going to expect that to be one
of them questions and I don't know if it will
or won't be You and Ryan get to decide most
of that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So I mean, if everybody in the room wants the
question asked, I'm going to ask the question, right. I'm
not going to pay a jerk about it. But at
the same time, Republicans, please stop. If you want to
change things in Colorado, we have to stop looking backwards
and we have to start talking about solving problems in
Colorado period.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well, and there's there's been a lot of division over
whether it's a pardon or a commutation. You know that
those two things have different meanings. But some people want
to full pardon, and you know commuting the sentences would
not be enough. And you know, at this point, I
just want a Republican.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
To win, thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
That's anybody we have on the Republican side is a
better option than what is on the Democrat side. So
if we're going to shoot ourselves in the foot over
over an issue like that, I hate to word it
that way, but if that's the thing that's going to
keep you from voting for a Republican candidate, then I
hope you like Michael Bennet or Phil Wiser.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Correct staff Steve Reems is my guest. He has worked
with Steve Wells to put together Saturday's event.
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