01-07-26 FULL SHOW - Why Did Trump Leave Venezuela's VP In Charge

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First, Mandy Connell. Zach Seger is still in for Anthony Rodrigan.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's on the mend.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
He's got the post vacation group that everyone has. The
sickness going around is miserable, absolutely miserable. And so I'm
telling you the voodoo witchcraft immunity potions at natural Grocers.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Just go get them because they work.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
They kept me. I was sick for two days literally
six six and then done and then well it was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Zach.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
You haven't had it yet, have you.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
No, I've been spotless this fall and which you're talking
about us.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Fingers crossed, but so far.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
So good. Yeah, because you don't, you don't want it.
I have friends that are just like they've been miserable
for three weeks. But again, voodoo witchcraft from natural grocers.
I probably shouldn't call it that. Nutritional support is what
I probably should call it. But it works like witchcraft,
and it's amazing. At least it worked for me. So uh,
and I'm not this is not a commercial. Let's talk
about the blog. I got a bunch of guests coming

(01:02):
up today, super excited about the show. It's gonna go
like zipsip bang it's gonna be so fast. So let's
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Speaker 6 (01:24):
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Speaker 1 (01:29):
Today on the blog Weather Wednesday at twelve thirty, what's
the latest in regenerated medicine? Why Trump left Venezuela's a
vice president in charge? Eli Lake in the Free Press
is worth reading. How medicaid invites fraud. We need to
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The stock show parade is Thursday? How Japan teaches road
safety to kids. How crowds make us dumber? Girls Scout
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Warren Buffett has advice Sue He and Rayann got it
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Speaker 2 (02:29):
Now you, oh too, Sorry. NANCE didn't mean to step
on you.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
But since I published the blog, I worked out, I
took a shower, I drove to work. We had an
incredibly significant situation happened in Minneapolis, and that situation I went.
And you think I'd learned after the Charlie Kirk thing
to not look at videos, but I was told book,

(02:55):
you can't really see anything, but you can see everything
without seeing anything.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, And there's video on X I'll I will put
it on the blog.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
If you guys want to go look at it, I'll
give you a warning. But in the video, they are
trying to or they have done a traffic stop, and
there is an ice agent at the window of an
suv and that is being driven by a woman. And
then there is an ice agent directly in front of
the suv being driven by this woman. That they are
trying to do an immigration stop on because then I

(03:28):
don't know anything about the woman who was killed. Spoiler alert,
she was killed. Should have gotten that, you know, should
have finished my story first. But the ICE officer walks
up to the door, she hits the gas, goes directly
at the other ICE agent, who I would estimate is
probably ten feet away. Maybe he already had his weapon drawn,

(03:50):
so he was already had his weapon drawn, and he fired,
and he killed her. And I see this being a
huge problem because both sides are going to make the
argument that they are morally right.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I believe the ICE agent did the right thing. I
believe that if you drive an automobile at a law
enforcement officer, do not be surprised when you get shot.
This is so incredibly stupid to me that we're even
having this conversation. You know, when I first got here,
and the details on this are not crystal clear for me.

(04:29):
I don't remember exactly how this went down. But when
I first got here, there was a seventeen year old girl,
young woman who was kind of already headed in the
gangbanger life, but she was a young young person. She
and another friend were in an alley. I don't remember.
They had broken in or something had been broken into.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
A cop is walking towards them. She drives to the cop.
He fires, and he kills her. And since then I
believe in Denver police officers are not allowed to fire
at a moving vehicle. They're just supposed to get run over, right,
I mean, And that's part of the problem with this
is that the people on the left are gonna.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Be like, I can't believe you killed her. I'm already
seeing murder or trending on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Right, So that's how the left is going to see it,
and they're they're not just going to say it because
in their minds, Ice is the bad guys that's their
starting position. Their starting position is whoever is obstructing Ice
is the good guy, and Ice is the bad guy.
So if the bad guy shoots the good guy, there
is no other discussion that needs to be had.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's how the left is going to frame it. And
then rational.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Thinking people who understand the rule of law and faith
in institutions. You know what's remarkable to me people on
the left talk about how tragic it is that we've
lost faith in institutions like the CDC, you know, And
and we've lost faith in these governmental agencies that they
believe we're supposed to to, you know, trust, and yet

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they've lost faith in any law enforcement agencies. These people
are not rogue agents. They're not running around just scooping
people up on the streets. They're doing law enforcement operations
to deport people.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
And I look this up earlier.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I could find maybe four cases of people who have
been deported without an active, already active deportation order. So
we already have this, We already have people that should
be deported, that's what they're doing. And yet you have
Tim Walls calling these ice agents nazis. You have Jacob Fry,
the mayor of Minneapolis, who was such a blithering idiot,

(06:39):
but boy he is like the perfect example of a
Democratic mayor who's going to go far in the party.
By the way, just like Gavin Newsom, he is the
next Gaven Neussom. This clown. Those rational thinking people who
recognize and I have so many stories on the blog today,
actually I just put one on the blog today too.
Two stories on the blog today that clearly show a

(07:03):
complete connection. When you have more police and you have
more law enforcement, you get less crime. It is simply
a fat and all of this left wing clap trap
of you know, more cops don't equals.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yes, yes they do.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
And you have.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Democrats across the country demonizing ICE agents, demonizing Border patrol agents,
calling them nazis. What the first of all, what are
you even doing? Do you even know what a nazi is?
Do you even These are people who broke the law
to get here. They are not American citizens. And you're

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gonna tell me that the people who have voluntarily gone
to work for the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Agency they're
the bad guys for enforcing the laws that are on
the books.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Right now, that's what you're mad about.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Like, that's where we are in this country, and that's
where I think this is going to be something that
right now it is a local story.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Although now the.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Activists class has already flooded the crime scene and it's
only a crime scene because she rode at the cop.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
What I worry about.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Is that you're going to have a Minneapolis DA who's
going to prosecute, try to prosecute this ICE agent. I
can already tell you that's going to happen. One hundred percent.
This could be a seminal moment. This could be one
of those things that we look back on and go, wow, yeah,
that was kind of a big deal. That was the
thing that really lit the fire. Now it could also

(08:41):
just kind of go away. But one thing I know
is that people on the left never miss an opportunity
to demonize law enforcement if one of theirs gets hurt.
They never talk about how many police officers are killed
in this country every year, how many ice agents have
been attacked. They don't talk about that at all because
they like it. And I know that there are people

(09:03):
on the left who have a great deal of respect
for law enforcement. They want great cops and they want
them to do a great job. But unfortunately that is
not the leadership of the left now. The leadership of
the left now is all in on defund the police.
Holy cow, I'm sure that Zoron Mamdani already has an
entire you know, the strategy to inflict on New York

(09:24):
City based on this. But this, this whole thing's got
me thinking. You know, you don't see things like this
in red states. You see him in California, you see
him in Minnesota. I'm surprised we haven't seen him in
Colorado yet, and you know, it happens in these blue states,

(09:47):
and I could not help but think. One of the
first things I remember Rush Limbaugh saying that made me cringe.
And my father made me listen to Rush Limba when
I was a kid.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Okay, so you.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Would say that, would have you know? I would have
gotten used to Rush when I was no. No, it
was like I listened to him and I was like,
oh my god, you know, as only a young person
can do. This guy's so stupid. And Rush used to
say that leftists move into a beautiful place like locusts
and ruin it. And I think, I think to myself that, God,

(10:19):
why would you have to be so nasty about it?

Speaker 7 (10:21):
Right?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Like why why can't you just be Why do you
have to.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Be so mean about it? Why do you have to
say it?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Like, well, now I totally get it after watching it
happen in Colorado, after watching Colorado go from this place.
And I've only been here since twenty thirteen, so I've
only been here, you know, thirteen and a half years
as of right now. And in that thirteen and a
half years, I saw it in real time. It's kind
of like I was watching Venezuela all these years. I

(10:47):
didn't know I should have been watching Denver. I didn't
know I should have been watching Colorado be made one
of the most expensive places places to live in the country,
while we entertained all manner of.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Criminal from all over the world.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
While we made crime pay, and we made everybody else
who didn't commit the crime pay for it.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So I really this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
You look at it and you go, why, I don't
understand why people keep voting for this, And then I
look at Zion Mamdani and I understand exactly why. Because
the democratic class as it exists right now sells dreams
that are never going to come true, never, and they
sell them because they know that they are going to
put them in power, and power is what they care about. Now,

(11:34):
lest you think I am so naive as to think
that the right doesn't have their own version.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Of this, oh yes they do. One hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
People in power want to stay in power, full stop.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
They don't want to leave.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
But the left's policies, by design, are designed to undermine.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
The social fabric that is.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Incredibly important to how our society functions. A successful society
is built on the family unit. Right, it's just a fact,
you guys, children do better when they have two parents
at home. All of these statistics can I can bury
you in data on this. But a society that is
based on a nuclear family structure is going to be

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the strongest kind of society. And that is anathema to
people on the left. Is that is just a night
that's white supremacy. What I just said is white supremacy
to those on the left. A nuclear family, they just
attack everything that makes the world good and beautiful and holy. Honestly,

(12:38):
they attack the law enforcement agents because they know a
law abiding society is not a progressive society. If you're
not you know, living your own truth and whatever that means,
you're just not living.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
They don't make it better.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
And the fact that they call themselves progressives is really
it's really really insulting to those of us with a brain.
They should be called destructives instead.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
What can we destroy? Because they have a plan.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
They have a plan where they're going to destroy everything
good and wonderful and happy, and then then you're gonna
clamor for the warm embrace of collectivism, just.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Like they are in New York.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
After the du Blasio years and Eric Adams, Oh yeah,
the promise of government working for you. Imagine that government
taking care of your housing problems. Imagine that except it
doesn't work. It never has in the.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
History of the world. It has always failed.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
And yet and yet it is growing in the United
States of America. Now, you know one thing. And I'm
going to try and get my friend John Justice back
on next week to sort of talk more about Minnesota.
Not because any of us live in Minnesota, although my
very very good friend Tracy Miller and her husband Roger
live in Minnesota now, and it is important for us

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here in Colorado to understand how quickly this can turn
with the same exact kind of leadership here that they
had in Minnesota. I don't think Tim Walls and Jared
Polis are equals in any sense of the word. I
really don't. I don't think Tim Walls could hold a
candle to Jared Polis in terms of intellect, business acumen.

(14:22):
I mean, they're just they're so far apart as far
as Democrats go. They really really are, which is good
for us. But you need to understand that the next
Democrat could be like Tim Walls, right, the next Democrat
could be exactly like that. One of the things that
I really, really, really and we're doing this debate on

(14:42):
Saturday with three of the Republican candidates for governor, and
one of the things that I need them to focus
on is this. And Zach, let me ask you this question.
I'm guessing you're an unaffiliated voter. I've never talked to
you about politics ever. I am, okay, an affiliated voter.
Perfect If a candidate said to you, let's test messaging
on Zach, the messaging would be, we don't have any

(15:05):
evidence right now that we have anything at the level
of fraud that we have seen in Minnesota and we've
seen in other places.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
But in order to.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Protect the taxpayers and the people who need medicaid, we
need to do a deep dive, and we need to
make sure that everybody that we are giving money to
is supposed to be getting that money, because it is
taxpayers money. We're going to go into an incredible deep
dive and a full investigation and audit and make sure
that we don't have that level of fraud.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Does that message matter for you?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Definitely?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I think like who's conducting the audit and how it's
being conducted and everything would be important, But yeah, I
think it's important too.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think in.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
All levels of wherever the tax payer money is going,
we should be investigating to make sure it's going to
the right things.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I have an article on the blog today about how
ripe for fraud Medicaid really is, and it's not just
ripe for fraud and the state. This is not necessarily
this article, but it's sort of on the same track.
The state is almost incentivized to defraud the federal government
the way the Medicaid system is set up. Did you know,

(16:09):
for instance, when they expanded Medicaid and they allowed people
up to one hundred and thirty eight percent of the
federal poverty level to sign up for Medicaid up from
like you had to be like eighty percent of the
federal poverty level before that. Those people, those quote richer
people in that kind the state gets more money for
those people than they get for normal Medicaid patients, really

(16:31):
poor people. So they actually profit from having people that
are able bodied that don't have any children and letting
them go on Medicaid. They actually make more money servicing
those people.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Medicaid is a system that is designed for the poorest
of the poor, for the elderly, and for pregnant women.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
That is what the program was set up for. Right there,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
If you're not one of those, you don't need to
be on Medicaid, period, full stop.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
So why do they get extra money for these healthier people?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I believe it was by design because when the Democrats
decided to expand Medicaid, that's how they set it up,
because they want to create a situation exactly like the
one we're in right now where we have exploding Medicaid.
But it's more and more people are on so called
government healthcare because Zach, never forget the endgame of everything

(17:22):
the Democrats do in healthcare is to get you to
ask for single payer. That is the goal, and that
is the purpose of every piece of democratic legislation on
healthcare that has ever been passed and ever been ever
been put forward. That is the goal. Don't ever forget it,
and then you will if you know that that's the goal,

(17:42):
you will look at everything with a much different eye
because they've never, never, never tried to make it better.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
They've only made it worse. So there we are. I
got a lot of you texting in.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
But when we get back as we do on the
Mandy Connell Show. Our first visit back with Dave Frasier
from Box thirty one is going to be right before
the weather changes. That's how we do weather Wednesday. We
will do that next. Keep it right here, Dave, Happy
New Year, Happy.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
New Year, Mandy. Welcome back as well. You had got
some time off and so today.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
So it's nice, you know, and I loved every bit
of every single bit of it. It was wonderful. But
I came back from Ohio where it was also quite nice.
It was the weather was not bad there until like
the last we Okay, Dave, this was kind of cool.
Can I just have like a weather like a nerdy
weather moment with you for a moment. So we're driving
back from northeast or northwest Ohio, right, So we get

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in the car and it's like nine o'clock in the
morning and it's like sixty degrees. So between where we
ended up stopping on the west side of Kansas City, No,
we went beyond that. We went to Manhattan, Kansas. So
we drove to Manhattan, Kansas. We drove to a cold front,
so we stopped to eat. We go in the restaurant

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it's like sixty five degrees. We come out of the restaurant,
it's like thirty five degrees.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I love that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Yeah, it's fantastic. You know, we see those.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Temperature swings that drops here as well. But in the
Midwest sometimes that can be an ugly transition there because
it can be in ice and snow, especially if you're
on the roads traveling. That's never fun. I had to
drive one time. We've had the same thing. We left
here and everything was fine. We were chasing the back
end of a blizzard and I tried to time it
out as we were heading from here through Des Moines

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and towards Milwaukee, and I tried to time it out
that we would stay on.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
The back edge of the blizzard.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I got a little too aggressive in.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
The driving and got into the back edge of it,
and boy, what.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
The difference it is.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
It was so bad.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
I had to stop for gas. It was so cold,
so windy, snow was sideways. My debit card got stuck in.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
The because it was frozen.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I had to get the.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Guy to shut the pump off. A damn card back out.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
So I love that.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
My first weather experience like that was I was laying
over in Minneapolis, Minnesota as a matter of fact, and
we walked to the restaurant from the hotel. It was
like a two mile walk, No big deal, right, you know,
we walked down there, we eat, we come out. It
was seventy degrees. I had on shorts. It was snowing.
So in the two and a half hours we were
in there, Like it's just it was crazy. But anyway,

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I do have questions about our actual weather tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So what are we really looking at.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Let's start with.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
The stalk show first of all, goes off at noon.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Are they going to be able to get that done
before they have to deal with foul weather.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
You're talking the parade down Yeah, yes, I do think
they'll get it off. They have dealt with weather in
the past when it deals with cold and snow.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Right now, there's a.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Lot of questions that still need to be answered, generally
at this time frame. You know, we're within the twelve
to eighteen hours of this event starting. We'd like more
details finalized, but we're still working out some final details.
Here's the bottom line. It's going to snow and it's
going to turn colder.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
It's going to.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Drop tomorrow into the upper thirties and then slowly drop
below freezing late tomorrow afternoon.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Thursdays, Friday's high will only.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Be around thirty three thirty four. Overnight lows will be
in the teens and twenties. So we've got the cold component,
we've got enough moist that we will get snow.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Always in these.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Situations, the questions becomes the how much, and it's the
how much that we're still struggling with a little bit
as computer models range widely, and it has to do
with the windflow that you and I talk about all
the time. For the stock show parade, I do think
there could be some light snowshowers around. My forecast right now,
just finalizing it.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
Is, I do think we'll have some light snow.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
In the morning, and then there could be a low
for many hours in the afternoon before things kick back
in around four o'clock. So with the stock show parade,
I think it could be cold, and there could be
some flurries and light snowshowers, but I don't think they're
going to be in the brunt of the snow.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
I think that happens after four o'clock.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Tomorrow afternoon and then continues till two to four in
the morning, so about a twelve hour bend. And it's
that duration if we can sustain the right wind direction,
that will give.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Us our snow totals, which we think right.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Now, Mandy are about one to four typical upslope one.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
As you go up towards Fort Collins, two.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Swards Lovelands, threes and fours as you come into Denver,
and then the heaviest totals will be south and west
of I seventy, where we see those favored numbers get
a little deeper.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
So basically, this texter said, Mandy Weather, I'm traveling by
car west on I seventy from Denver Friday, and now
Dan and I can't just updated, so they basically they're asking,
so Friday you should have what snow on the roads,
but no snow to deal with exactly.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Yeah, it's just going to depend.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
This storm should lift out very early Friday morning, leaving
us with little snow to deal with after about eight
to ten.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
And that includes the mountains.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
But it will come down to what do the roads
look like, What does it look like getting up Floyd
Hill and into the mountains. Are there any passa considerations
veil Pass and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
So if you're.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Driving from Denver and heading west, I would say.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
You're you're okay, but just be prepared for.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Any you know, road conditions that may have deteriorated the
night before.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Let's talk about the bigger weather picture over the next
six weeks.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I know, you guys always look out.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's it's very imprecise science at this point.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
But we've had.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Such a dryfall, we're well below snowpack. Are we looking
to make Is there anything on the you know, on
the horizon that is going to change that for us?

Speaker 6 (23:32):
So you know that that has been a concern.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
You know, It's interesting the calendar year twenty twenty five
actually ended up right where it should be for moisture.
And what that tells me is it.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
Was short for snow for the early snow months that.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
We've had, so September, October, November, December, December Mandy actually
came out right on track.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
And what people.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
May forget is that on the third of December we
had a four point three snow in snowstorm, and then
on the twenty eighth we had another two point three
for six point sixth total, which is the average for
the month of December. So December actually ended up okay,
and for the entire year we ended up right where
we should be for moisture. What that tells me is
that while we were lacking in snow, we made up

(24:17):
for the moisture.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
In the calendar year because of a wet spring and.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Periodic rains over the summer. And if you'll remember our
conversations going back to September, and you know, everything's still
being green and the fall was looking in October and
should we blow the sprinklers out because it's dry and everything.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Still looks lush.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
That had to do with all that early season moisture
that kept us looking pretty good. Where we are lacking
is snow. The snowpack is only at about sixty percent
Fox and I always like to say, listen, we still
got all of January, all of February, and Marching April
our snow is month. And so for the snowpack and
our snow concerns, we load now.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
We want to load as much snow as.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
We can up through about April seventh.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
After that we start to melt the snow, and that's
our water supply and reservoirs. So we've got time to
make up for the shortfalls. I wouldn't give up on
the season this year, this early.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I'm going to say the ski resorts have been having
a terrible time because of the lack of snow. Are
they going to get a good skull? Are they going
to get soaking here with this storm? Yes? Yeah, this
will be good.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
The last one they got there was if.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
You were following any of the resorts like Loveland and Aspen,
Snowmass and all those guys, they were rejoicing in the
last snow. They got really deep fresh powder of eight
to ten inches some places. We're twelve thirteen. They'll get
similar totals here. We're looking at a good eight to
twelve inches in the mountain, so great for them. Should
help with the snowpack.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Overall.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
This is a good storm moisture equivalent. I will tell
you this that the month of January, our total moisture
is around four tenths of an inch. This storm coming
in has the ability to deliver about a quarter of
an inch, maybe a little more, and that obviously equates
to two to four to two to five to maybe
two to six inches on the south.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Side of town.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
That would be here, you know, we're what eight days.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
Into the month.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Nine days into the month, it would be almost a
whole month's moisture.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
So again, you know, you look at the bigger.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Picture and you think December was the second Warmistan record.
It's long, long stretches of dry and warm and windy conditions,
but then you sprinkle in these, you know, decent snowstorms.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
And when you average it out at.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
The end of the month, it actually doesn't look that
bad on paper.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
It's just that we go through these long stretches. And
by the way, this is exactly where we were last year.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
This is a classic Laminia pattern where we get these long, dry,
windy stretches, fire concerns get elevated, and then all of a.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Sudden, bang, you get hit with a storm.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Those concerns go away for several days, and then you
get back into that pattern.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
And I do think that's.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
What we'll see following this event. Thursday Fridays, we go
back to warm and dry.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
From your lips to God's ears.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Dave Frasier, Fox thirty one is Chief Meteorologists. Good to
talk to you, my friend, and I'm looking forward to
another exciting year of weather Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
And so am I and hey, Rod, get better and
everybody else stay healthy because that crud going around fun.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
No, it is not. You need to I could have
given you my witchcraft tips tips that I got from
natural Grocers. It worked, man, it works, all right, man.
I'll talk to you next week. That Steve Fraser. We'll
be right back. She's gonna be on to She's got
her big vision board event coming up this weekend. It's

(27:27):
so fun if you've ever wanted to do a vision board.
But I don't know if you guys saw this. Bobby
Kennedy has released the new food Pyramid and at the
top real food steak, chicken, vegetables, and fruit. Nowhere on
this are foods with added sugar or ultra processed snacks

(27:49):
and candy. It is as it should be, finally, after
all these years. Now, guys, I just went and added
to the blog two videos, two different angles of the
Ice involved Minneapolis shooting that left a woman dead. After
there was a traffic stop being executed by Ice and
as an officer approached her door, she chose to hit

(28:11):
the gas and clipped another ICE agent with her car
you can see it in the second video, and he
opened fire and killed her.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
And I'm concerned.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
And the reason I'm going to keep talking about this
is because these are the kinds of things that that
lead to a significant problem. And by significant probleming, I
mean violent conflict. And one of our texters and texture,
I'm so sorry your text. Oh no, here it is.
Charlie Kirk was the first in the Civil War. The
shooting today could easily escalate. I think that is a

(28:44):
sentiment that we should pay attention to. And let me
just be clear, I do not want this, which is
why I'm trying to call attention to it now. I
have an interesting video on the blog. It's a couple
of minutes long. There's really nothing to it, but it's
about the the thing in our brains that makes us

(29:04):
want to belong so much that we will go along
with something that's blatantly wrong just so we can continue
to belong. And they've done experiments where they have, you know,
five people, and they bring in a sixth person, and
the five people are trying to solve a very easy
to solve problem, and they all decide the same wrong answer,

(29:25):
and then they bring in this sixth person, and of
course the five people are the control, right they know
what's going on. They bring in the sixth person who
looks at this easy to solve problem and says, well, well,
this is clearly wrong, but because there's so many people
on that side that believe it, eventually those people will go, well, yeah,

(29:46):
that's the answer, even though it's clearly wrong. So I
worry that our tribalism, which is so strong on both sides,
so strong, is going to get us to a point
where it overtakes our rational thought. And I said it yesterday,
and I'll see it today, and I'll say it until

(30:06):
I'm blue in the face. If you're out there advocating
for some kind of armed conflict on our soil, you
don't have any critical or long term thinking ability whatsoever.
Anybody that would wish to pick up arms against what
family and friends around the country, what is that even
gonna look like? This isn't the old days of the

(30:28):
North and the South with a clearly defined line, which,
by the way, wasn't that clearly defined The closer you
got to it, this would be chaos, absolute chaos. It
would be economic chaos, It would be economic disaster, it
would take so long to come back from. And at
the same time, while that was happening, you would absolutely

(30:50):
see China and Russia run roughshod over the rest of
the world. Because, by the way, I don't think any
of the rest of the world are gonna come to
help us.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Who are they gonna help?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
So this notion that somehow we should be advocating, Oh yeah,
this is where I don't want this. But when I
see things like this, it can be so passionately argued
from both sides of the rightness of their position. The
people on the left that are gonna say, this woman,
what did she do? She deserved to die because she

(31:23):
tried to get away. No, she didn't deserve to die
because she tried to get away. She made a decision
that put her in harm's way because she hit a
law enforcement officer with her car.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
She assaulted an officer with her car.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
That is what happened. Now we maybe get body camera
footage that she tells a much different story. We are
going to have to see this all adjudicated. And I'm
going to sit here and say I think I know
what I saw, but I could be wrong. I could
absolutely be wrong, and so could anyone else.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
We're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
To wait and see. But right now there's a crowd
that gathered around this accident site, and that's not safe.
We have politicians who are saying to federal law enforcement agencies,
get the f out of my city like some tough guy.
That's the big thing now on the left, drop the
F bomb as much as you can.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Don't get me wrong, as one who loves the F
bomb in my personal life, I do try to have
some dignity when I'm representing the Mandy Connle Show. Mandy
Trump has no issue taking up arms against Americans on
our soil. I'm trying to think of when that happened.

(32:40):
I mean, am I and I'm being genuine here? What
do you mean by that? I'm just curious. I'd like
to know when when he did that. I mean, I
know Obama used to drone to kill an American citizen.
I remember that. I know that Biden used the FBI

(33:04):
to spy on Catholic school moms. I remember that. I
don't remember Trump using violence against American citizens. I don't
remember that, So please text me back. I'd love to
know when we get back. I've got my friend Rachel.
She is coming in from Regen Revolution. There's some cool stuff.
And they got a fun event coming up where you

(33:24):
can go out and just see what it's all about.
We'll do that after this, taking over for a Rod
for another days. He continues to recover from his post
vacation illness. See he has what everybody has and joining
the studio now from Rejan Revolution. Longtime friend, longtime clients

(33:48):
of each other. How did you have to turn her
mic on theres Oh there you go, Rachel Anders, welcome back.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Thanks for having me back. Well, i's to see you.
Happy New year.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Well, happy New Year to you too.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
And one of the reasons that I wanted to have
you on this month is because it's resolution time, and
I think resolutions suck. Okay, so I am anti resolution,
but what I am is intentionality, right, Like, here's the
things that are important to you. Focus on one of them.
And if getting your life back health wise is your thing,

(34:22):
then reach Out Revolution has like they have everything.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I mean, you're kind of.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
A one stop shop. We were just talking off the
year about some of the aesthetic stuff. Yeah, and what
did you just say, Well about needles.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
We're almost needle free in the office now for facial rejuvenation.
It's awesome, you know, facial rejuvenation without a surgical without
going a surgical route, has been something that we've been
working on for about a decade, and the technology that's
coming out, it just keeps getting better and better and better.
But I mean, I don't know if you've talked much

(34:56):
about this on the show or heard much about this.
The long term effect of getting fillers in your face
so regularly is.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
I just watched an watched and I don't watch batch
because I don't like surgery shows, but it was on
as I was doing dishes, so I didn't want to
grab the remote, and oh my god. They had a
woman who's oh she was completely disfigured because her filler moved.
And then I was like, wait, it can move, it migrates,
it doesn't dissolve. Here's the worst thing like women in

(35:25):
our generation, right, we started doing filler to put off.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
A facelift, right right, Well, this is great. I can
do this for a little while. It's quote natural, and
it dissolves and when I'm ready to have a facelift
it'll be later in life. So but no, Now, plastic
surgeons are like mad. They won't operate on somebody who's
had a lot of filler in their face because there's

(35:49):
a process you have to go through to dissolve all
the fillers so they can even actually do a facelift.
So they cut your face off to do a facelift
and then can't even do the face such an have
to sew you back up and wake you up and
tell you that, I mean it's bad, and yeah, it's bad.
In California, they estheticians aren't even allowed to break the
skin at all anymore.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Holy crowd, So what are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Let's start. First of all, let's go back to the
I'll call it the foundation of regen revolution.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
There's two foundations.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Number one is overall physical health, right, that is physical health,
manipulation chiropractic function. Yes, physical function. That is the foundation
of regen revolution. And from that came the regenerative medicine part.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
I have a weird.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Question to ask you. I know that you guys don't
do everything in regenerative medicine because some stuff is far
more invasive and some stuff is you know, just needs
to be done in a surgical suite. I guess like
you couldn't do my vocal cords like doctor Apperman did
in this sure yeah, but what are some of the
things that are coming down the pike that are starting

(36:52):
to become available? And I always tell people the stuff
that you guys have, like professional athletes have been doing
this stuff for twenty five years, they just haven't and
letting us do it right, so now we can do it.
So what are some of the things that are coming
and are you going to be able to fix my jaw?

Speaker 5 (37:06):
That is my question. We're shut up really, Oh that's yeah?
No needles? What no needles?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
How do you do that?

Speaker 5 (37:14):
So one of the machines we have is from BTL.
BTL is a European physiotherapy company that's been in business
for like twenty five years. On the FDA has just
over the past couple of years started letting us, letting
the US like use sell their machines and use their
machines in the United States. So it's an old company.

(37:34):
But one of their machines called the m Face which
we use to help rebuild the musculature in the face,
which gives a natural facelift. There's an attachment for the TMJ,
so you can actually fix TMJ with the M Face machine.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I've had it for so long now that I just
grind every time I open, like when I'm speaking, I
can hear the grind in my in my jaw. It's terrible.
And I went to the dentist yesterday and he's like,
you know you got Oh yeah, I'm aware, thank you.
I hear it all the time. It's like somebody is
crinkling up a paper bag in my left ear from
my jaw. Yeah, all the time. That's no good, I know.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Well, And the problem with it is as you get older,
then it leads to sleep and airway obstruction problems, you know, right,
and that leads to heart problems and blood pressure.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Thanks Rachel. That makes me feel really good about it.
Thanks for that anyway. But that is actually a perfect
example of what I love about Region because they're not
just hey, we're going to give you a shot and
send you on your way. It's like, here's why we're
doing what we're doing, here's why all of this stuff
is connected, here's why everything matters, and overall, it's like

(38:37):
such a functional way of doing medicine just in every aspect.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Well, I'm glad you think that, and that is the goal.
And I will say, probably the number one comment we
get from people who come into our office for the
first time and have an exam is. Wow, that is
the most thorough exam I've ever had. Last week someone
was like, thanks for that. Can you tell my doctor
everything I just said? Because you know, everything is connected,
and you know, unfortunately in medical schools now it's so

(39:05):
siloed that medical doctors are trained in their field and
they're trained to manage something in a field rather than
looking at the body as a system. But whether they
do that or not, the body is a system and
so you know, whatever is happening in your neck is
going to be related to your shoulder, and whatever's happening
in your back is going to be related to your knees.
And so we try to look at the body as

(39:26):
a whole system. It's more efficient and that way, instead
of just treating pain in one area, we treat function
of the whole body. And that way, people you know,
are able to do what they want to do.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
We have a problem in this country with the reliance
on pharmacology, and it is I think more and more
people are starting to get hipped to that about how
you know, we now have this like fungus that is
anti biotic resistant because we've created it because we all
taken too much antibiotics. And I've been joking because over Christmas,

(40:00):
both Q and Chuck got really sick, like really really sick,
and I was like, I don't have time to get sick.
So I went and bought a bunch of natural supplements
and things like and I was laughing as I was
taking it. I was like, here, let me take eye
of Newt and toe of frog and I'll but day
if it didn't work. I did get sick, but I got.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Sick for two days instead of two weeks.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Right, I'll take it. I will absolutely take it. But
that being said, I do think that more and more
people are saying, wait a minute, you know, is there
a better way where I'm not feeling drugged up, where
I'm not, you know, worried about destroying the lining of
my stomach, where I'm not worried about doing these things.
And I really think that people are looking for alternatives
that work that are not necessarily based in drugs. I mean,

(40:44):
that's how I feel about it. I got a couple
of questions from the blog.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Did reach in?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Can they do spinal discs for regenerative medicine?

Speaker 5 (40:53):
Do you guys do that. So that's one of those
things that you're saying needs to be done in a
surgical center. If we're injecting something into a disc, you
would want to have that debt under fluoroscopy. We do
have a pain management doctor who we work with who
has a sea arm in his office and we'll do that.
And so what we typically do is we will look
first to see what's going on. A lot of people

(41:14):
think they need a new disc, or they've been told
by a surgeon that they need a disc gectomy or
something like that, and you know, we get them functioning
better and you know they no longer feel like they
need that. So you know, the first thing to do
is just to get an exam and if if we
can help a person, will help them, and if we can't,
we'll refer them to the right place.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Okay, perfect, do they have something that will keep me
off of a seapap? I've never asked you that before. Yeah, so,
I guess it depends on the reason you feel like
you need a seapap.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
So some people it's just the way they're sleeping, and
if you give them a good cervical pillow, you know,
or fix the reason that they're in pain while sleeping,
then yes, if it's something where you know you might
need to go to a an ear, knows and throat
doctor like doctor Opperman, ye, to look at why you
have airway obstruction. I mean, there are so many reasons

(42:08):
that people can't be sleeping well. And the thing about
c paps is it's funny because I saw doctor Opperman
last week about this very thing because I don't want
one of those. He said that even you can fix
the apnea, but it still doesn't help somebody sleep better.
Like sleep is such a complex field that we really
don't know very much about collectively, he said. And so yes,

(42:33):
there are a lot of options there, but I would
start with an e NT or if your dentist has
a sleep doctor that they write with, you know, talk
to your dentist.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Mandy, surgery is the only option because insurance doesn't cover
any of this. Is there any chance that we're going
to see more because some stuff is covered in certain situations, right,
I mean, there are certain situations where PRP can be covered.
I know, like our insurance covered PRP for me to
get that in my vocal courts as part of my surgery,
so they are starting to recognize that.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
Sure, that makes me sad that statement that surgery is
the only option because insurance doesn't cover this. That's the
reality though, you know, you know, surgery, it's not the
surgery doesn't have as place, but it's to be considered
a last resort because once you have some kind of
surgical intervention, once you cut your body open and surgically

(43:26):
alter it, you can't ever go back from that. And
so if it doesn't produce the desired result or there's
a complication from that, you're, you know, too bad. So
we do believe it's a last resort. With the technologies
that are coming out, it has brought the price down
of regenerative medicine a lot, you know, And so because

(43:49):
we have more options, and you know, depending on what
a person's budget is, you know, we can certainly get
something that's you know, in anybody's budget, will help them
in their office, in our office. The thing about insurance
is too it's kind of a scam. The price.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, I'm gonna say something. No, we talk about that
quite a bit on the program.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
So as it's structured now, it is definitely not not
beneficial to the consumer.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
But even if say your insurance covered it, okay, you
would still have to pay your deductible, which on average
for an in network deductible, I see, they're about five
thousand on average. You would still have to pay your
five thousand dollars deductible and your twenty percent co insurance
on these products, which is the same price as paying
out a pocket.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Right, So it doesn't really do you any good.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Your insurance company is in the business of collecting premiums
and not paying claims, and that's what they've They've got
it dialed.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yeah, they really do this question, Mandy. Do they have
anything that they offer in.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
Regards to ED Yes, we have a few options actually,
and this is another area where the technology just gets better.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Can we start with hormone replacement though?

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Can we just have a moment on hormone replacement for men?
For women? I feel like every time I meet a
crabby old person, I feel like I'm like, you really
need to have your hormones? Yeah, right, because it is
an absolute game changer. You just feel like yourself again.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
We have a kind of a funny thing that happens
in the office sometimes if someone it's like, you know,
just freaks out about something. It's like whoa hormones because
everybody struggles with this after a certain age. Well, and
then for men, hormones are very important for such on coage,
so essential. So you know, we don't generally treat ED
without first looking at hormone panel, right, So some men

(45:43):
have gone have started there and some men haven't. And
then regarding the treatments for ED, it really depends on
the severity of the ED. So there is an internationally
used kind of score for ED called the SHIM score
s H I am it's sexual Health Index for men.
I think is what that stands for. So if you
look up s HIM, you just google that, you'll find

(46:06):
many many sites where you can type in the SHIM score.
You can look on our website. We have it on
there too, and depending on what your SHIM score is,
we'll dictate the treatment. But we have a lot of
options for that depending on you know, what you're trying
to achieve or what the severity of the problem is,
and those treatments are effective.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Is that is the MCELA chair one of those.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
The MCELA chair is one of those.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Let's have a moment on that for a second. The
mcelach here, this is what I love.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Is like.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
For the longest time, there was a lot of issues
with aging health that I think we're just kind of
ignored because they were just part of You were just
gonna have Yeah, you're gonna pee when you laugh if
you had kids, right, that was just you're gonna that's
gonna happen, right there, you go. It's just, oh, that's
just a measure of getting older. Well, now people are like, no,
I don't like this, and so now this technology is

(46:54):
coming out. It's non invasive, easiest thing you've ever done
in your line, remain clothed.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
You just sit on this shirt on the chair.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
That's it, and it's amazing. Boy, it works and it
wormes like witchcraft. But then it's not.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
It's just your strengthening your pelvic floor.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Your pelvic floor is this weak, little wisp of a
muscle at the bottom of your pelvis that your whole
spinal column sits in. So yes, women who've had babies
have this most commonly, or at least we thought that.
Now that I talk about it so openly, I realize
that pretty much everyone over forty has some form of
terinaryan continents, and it's just because your whole spinal column

(47:31):
is resting on this thin little muscle, and so strengthening
that muscle helps, and it does help a sexual function
for men and women. I heard something the other day
that there are actually more adult diapers currently based gold
in our country than baby dipers.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
No, whoa, that is a baby that's not surprising. Urinary
contents that is not surprising at all. And those things
are expensive. Why before my late mother in law pass
we used to supply those for her, you know, just
to help out Holy mackerel, I mean holy mackerel.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
And it's not sanitary, you know, because a lot of
times they'll spend you know, all day in the same one.
You know, it's just not and then that causes other
health problems.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
The cost wise, you're going to very quickly cross that
line where continuing to buy adult diapers is far more
expensive than any of the treatments that you're gonna get
it regionally.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
And there's also I heard this referred to as listening
to some of the other day, called the urinary leash,
which is like, oh yeah, how far you can walk
or how far you can hike, or how far you
can walk around a city while you're traveling or how
because of this urinary leash and how hard it is
to't necessarily even find for women, especially a place to

(48:46):
relieve themselves if they need to.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Especially in the woods. Although I have no shame, Mandy.
What is PRP again? That is plate lit rich plasma
and that is where they take your own blood. They
do a blood draw, they spin it in a centrifuge,
and then they pull out the plasma which is now concentrated.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
And why do they do that, Rachel, Because.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Your plasma is loaded with growth factors and things that
signal healing in your body, so it starts this whole
cascade of healing. So PRP is natural, it's we can
take it from your own body. We can get as
much of it as we want, and it's not expensive
and it works. And we do that for a couple
of reasons. One to kind of build a scaffolding of

(49:27):
a new healthy tissue if we're preparing that area for
you know, stronger regenerative medicine. We have kids that come in,
like young athletes who have little label tears or little
problems with their elbow, you know, and their PRP, their
platelets are so robust because they're young and they heal
quickly anyway that you put concentrated PRP into a young athletes.

(49:48):
We have like you know, baseball players that were home
for Christmas, you know, get right their shoulders and their
elbows treated. And yeah, it's it's amazing. It is kind
of you know, our technology is continuing to advance even
beyond PRP. You know, PRP has been around for a
long time.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, Dan, ask this is there stem cell therapy for
male pattern baldness.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Yes, Dan, there is. Although again, you know, our goal
is always just to say what's you know, on the
cutting edge, because not only does it get better results
for the patients, but frequently holding on to the old
technologies is expensive and adopting what's new, you know, drives

(50:31):
the costs down. So we're always trying to do that.
But what's been shown recently to be the most effective
for hair restoration is actually exosomes, not stem cells, the
exosome IV. Nope, we micro needle exosomes into the scalp.
What are exosomes? Exosomes are also a product that comes
from the umbilical core in the Wharton's deli. But exosomes

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are very tiny, or stem cells are larger. Exosomes are
signaling cells, and so they're signaling healing and you know,
different types of functions in the body to work better
and to reinstate you know, neurological pathways and healing pathways
and things like that. So now when we do a

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stem cell injection or something like that, we like to
combine it with exosomes because you add the signaling factors
to the stem cells and we just get better results
doing that.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Before anybody asks the question, where do where do these
uh Wharton's jelly.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Where does the inside of the placenta, Where does that
come from?

Speaker 5 (51:33):
Yeah, so Wharton's jelly is the jelly that's found inside
the umbilical cord. So mothers who are having planned c sections,
you know they're so they can be heavily screened for
the you know, their health and any history of disease
and all of that, donate their birthing tissue to science
and then the Wharton's jelly is processed in a lab

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to extract different components of it that can be used
for different in applications and put into a vial and
cryogenically preserved and then ship to us so we can
use them for various things.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
But I just to be clear, there's no aborted baby
tissue here.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
No, that's webody wants that. Again. Here's something so, and
this is important. I'm glad this came up. So with
stem cells, there are different types, right, So you can
get them from your bone marrow, you can get them
from your fat, you can get them from embryonic tissue. Right,
that's illegal. So does that do you guys? Remember was

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it Dolly the sheep the cloned sheep?

Speaker 7 (52:36):
Right?

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Dolly was a sheep that was cloned using plury potent
stem cells. Those are from a boarded fetal tissue. Oh,
plury potent stem cells. So, and the reason they're now
illegal in the United States is because Dolly the cloned
sheep died of metastatic cancer within five years, and all

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three of Dolly's offspring also died of metastatic cancer. So
the Bush administration at that time said no pluripotent stem
cells are allowed in the United States. So when you're
going to Mexico or paer Ain five billion stem cells
for this price or ten billion stem cells for this price,
they're pluripotent stem cells. They can turn into anything including

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metastatic cancer. Metastatic cancer. So it's important that we're using
mezenchymal stem cells, not pluri potent stem cells. It's very
important that people are, you know, educated, But I wouldn't
get anything. Well, first of all, they can't even put
clean drinking water on the table in Mexico. I wouldn't
get a biologic ejected into be there anyway. But you

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need to know what you're getting, and there's a reason
why they're not able to operate in the US.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah, I will.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
We'll continue this.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
We've got a bunch of questions on the Common Spirit
Health text like a bunch or with Rachel Andrews or
Andrews Anders from Regen Revolution will be I pack.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
From Region Revolution talking about all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
We're Generative Medicine and if you've got questions please text
them to five six six nine OL. I want to
ask this question which has been asked like four different
ways on the text line, and that is where's the
location and more importantly, what are you putting one down south?
That's my question.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
The location is an old just on the west side
of Old Town, Arvada. We have a big parking lot
and We have the whole building there, so it's very
easy to get to. It's very highway parking.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Parking is likely.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
I will put one down South if somebody wants to
help me fund it, and I'm not joking, give me
a call, and that's a fun. I would love to
put one down South. It's just a matter of you know,
funding it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Then we have a bunch of specific questions, Mandy, Does
region have multiple options to treat sciatic nerve issues?

Speaker 5 (54:56):
Yes, a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I I mean doctor Cook and I cannot remember the
other chiropractor's name, doctor Scott may now thank you, but
doctor Cook is a master with sciatic I mean just
making sure your body is in proper alignment is the
first step, and they fix my sciatic nerve.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
Yeah, I mean sciatica is a kind of a big bucket.
You know, there's a lot of causes for it. So
the number one is just call the office, get an appointment,
let's see what's causing it, and then we can put
together a treatment plan to fix it. But yeah, saiatica
is you know, one of those common things we treat.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I would say, does stem cell treatment work for deteriorating
cartilage in the ankle.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I had PRP to no effect.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Running is becoming painful, and sir or madam, I already
made the joke like that's your problem that you're running okay,
But nonetheless I'm sure you enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
I maintain that people should be able to do whatever
they want with their bodies. And so you know, the
sooner you start taking care of it, the longer you'll
be able to keep doing the things you want to do. Yes,
regenerative medicine has been shown to regenerate cartilage and all
the joints. Again, the best thing to do is come in,
get an exam. Let's take a look, see what we're
dealing with. If we can help you, will make a recommendation.

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If we think any surgery, we'll refer you to a surgeon.
But I you know that yes is the short answer
to that question. All right, can you grow new shoulder tendons?
Ask this text messenger, Well, that's a confusing question. Where
is your shoulder tendon? Is it ruptured and rolled up
into the shoulder, in which case know that is a

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surgical repair. If you have a tear or a fray
in your tendon, then yes, regenerator medison helps with that
all day.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Uh, Mandy, let me see here.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
This is going to be a very weird question for
your guest, but do they have anything available for bowel incontinence?
In other words, around the rectum it gets weak and
there's leakage.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Is that the same thing in the mceli chair?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Do that?

Speaker 5 (56:55):
Solitaire can do that too, And we just scooted the
patient forward so that the contraction that the Mcella chair forces,
instead of happening around the paranem is actually happening around
the rest.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
And let's talk for a second about what that actually is.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Because this is so flipping cool because when you sit
on the chair, you're fully clothed, you sit on this
little squatty chair and you're just kind of sitting there
and then the machine goes on and you can feel
a sensation, but it's in no way painful, no way uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Those people enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, you just you feel what is that sensation?

Speaker 5 (57:28):
It's the So it's an electromagnetic wave or pulse that
comes up if you've kind of picture like in the
shape of a traffic cone kind of coming up out
of the chair and concentric contractions that are getting smaller
and smaller up to where the patient's axide is in

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contact with the chair. So initially we got the Mcella
chair to help with yourin air in continence, pelvic floor strength,
you know, and all the things that are connected with that.
I mean, I broke my back when I was in
my twenties, and I've had low back pain, you know,
my entire life. And I did one session on that
chair and I was like, oh my god, my back
pain's better because the pelvic floor just everything is resting

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on that. So if you can strengthen that, then all
of a sudden, all the other muscles aren't working so hard.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Right.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
So then I talked with a couple of doctors who
they have a practice up in Minnesota, and they are
they're gay, and they're a lot of their patient base
is gay men, and they use the m cla chair
for that very thing.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
I mean, I hadn't really thought of that as being
a potential.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
Issue or just a population that needs service right away,
but it makes sense. And now that we start talking
about that, I realize how many of our patients actually
have that same problem. Is not a weird question. You
wouldn't be the first person who came into the office
with that problem, and the MCEL chair helps with that.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
This person eighty one years old with a pelvic organ prolapse,
has the chair thing been helpful for organ prolapse at all?

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Yeah? Yes, I mean it kind of depends. Again, there's
a there's a pretty wide spectrum of things that could
be going on there. So the best thing to do
is again come in, talk to the medical provider, let's
see what's actually going on and if it can help.
But we've had women come in who have had, you know,
pelvic floor surgery, who have had prolapse surgery, who have

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mesh you know, and all different sorts of things, and yes,
the chairhell has helped with all of that.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
A couple of people are asking about insurance and Medicare
and things of that nature. What do you Some insurances
cover some things, some don't. It really is on a
case by case basis.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
I mean, at this point, all insurance companies, all the
major carriers, have gone to just fall in line with
Medicare guidelines. So it's really what is Medicare cover. That's
all we're going to cover too, right, So that's kind
of how things are going at the moment. Medicare or

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you know, insurance covers a lot of the things that
we do that are physical medicine, so chiropractic rehab therapy,
different types of trigger point injections, your exams, your X rays,
any some types of equipment like a back brace or
a knee brace that we might need to send you
home with. But regenerative medicine is not covered by any insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
At the moment. We shall see about that, Mandy, I
was told by one of the other PRP places that
my shoulder is torn too badly to be fixed without surgery.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Is that what would be true anywhere else?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I mean that's if it's a full tear, If it's
a full rupture, they cannot fix it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
If it's a full rupture, we would refer you out
to surgery. I would recommend you just come in for
an exam and let us take a look at it.
Because I can't even count how many people have come
into our office because they've been told they're only surgery
and we're able to help them. One thing I can
promise you is that if we need to refer you
for surgery, we'll refer you to somebody good and if

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we can't help you, that's what we're going to do.
And if we can help you, then we're going to show.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
You how uh mandy, are they able to do anything
for arthritis in the shoulder or hip? Y'all?

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
This is like a slam dunk. If you just have arthritis,
this is going to change your life.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Because that was what my issue was. I didn't have
an injury to my knee, although I found out after
that my legs are a different length and it's just
made me walk weird. And now my knee, you know,
one of my knees was really bad. But for arthritis,
regenerative medicine is like a chef's kiss. It is, this
is what it was made for. It feels like it is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
And the thing about arthritis is like arthritis isn't isn't
an injury. Arthritis is a systemic condition, right. You don't
just have arthritis in one place, right, And so if
a surgeon is trying to tell you that they're going
to fix your arthritis with a surgery, well where does
it stop, you know, because you don't just have arthritis
in one place unless it's from an injury. So instead

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we look at the body as a whole. How can
we make it operate better? How can we calm down
the arthritis which is just inflammation of a joint. And
if some regeneration is needed, because the patients let that
go too far before they come in and try to
do something about it, then we have those tools.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Do you have anything for spinal stenosis as this texture,
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
Spinal stenosis isn't something you're going to fix with regenerative medicine. However,
spinal stenosis, the function can be improved and you could
function quite well with spinal stenosis if you're putting your
attention on function. So again, in our office, I mean
we say this all the time, we don't treat pain.

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We treat function because truthfully, for most people, if you
ask them like, would you rather be one percent pain
free in your knee or would you rather have eighty
percent function with a little bit of pain? And by
and large most people would say I'd rather have eighty

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percent function because I've been doing things with pain my
whole life day. Right, Yeah, Like, as long as I
can keep doing the things I do and the things
I like to do, then I'm happy with that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
All Right, We're gonna come back and wrap up. I
still have more questions coming in. So this is Rachel
Anders with Reagin Revolution. I almost sit Downtown Healthcare. I'm like, oh,
I know, we've been together for so long, Rachel, We'll
be right back the stuff that they're doing at Rejai.

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And every time I go and like, ooh, what are
we going to do today? You know, But basically I'm
a human guinea pig, like let's do it all. But
I am here to tell you I truly believe that
you guys, And I'm not just blowing smoke or just
you know, trying to make you look good. I don't
know what kind of physical shape I would be in
without region.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Say, you know, honestly, I just don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I feel like I I you know, I probably still
have knee pain, or I would have already had a
surgery or two or whatever. And I just am so
grateful that I found you guys. I think, like twelve
years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Yeah, it's been that long. I mean, it's it's been
that long.

Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
Mandy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Can you use an HSA to pay for regenerative healthcare?

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Oh that's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
HSA FSA, that's your money. You can use it at
our office for whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Uh this text or Mandy, what about arthritis in the ankle?
My doctor tells me I need an ankle replacement or
an ankle fusion.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Let's take a look at that before you do anything
you can't undo, right, Yeah, just call the office. I
don't know if i'd said the phone number three oh
three two nine two nine nine nine two. Talk to Ashley.
She'll get you set up for an appointment, and let
I mean, let's just see what we're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
You know, what does a consultation cost.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
Consultation just cost your copay or fifty bucks, which everyone's less.
We do that for the Mandy patients. It's like a
two hundred seventy five dollars exam. So it's really they're
a very thorough we do. That includes any imaging we
have to do. Yeah, it's a very very thorough. You'll
see both the chiropractic and medical provider. They do a

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whole and again, the most common comment we get is
that's the most thorough exam I've ever had.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Like, you'll do weird stuff too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Let's I'll make you walk and watch you while you're walking,
because they want to know how you're walking weird. It's weird.
I mean, my doctors never said walk across the floor
and then walk back, and you make me do that
every time. It's weird. Planner's fasci itis, I testify, Yes,
I will say I did not love getting injections in
my heel, but it completely cured my planners like that

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I've had for eighteen months. Yeah, and it's completely gone.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Well, and now we actually have I mean, the technologies
we have in the office now enable us to treat
so many more things without needles, like your face, you're
I mean, there's so many just amazing things that we're
able to do without injections.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Now, well, I would strongly advise if you have questions,
or you think you have a you know, a condition
that they might be able to help, or you just
want to ask. I mean, it's one thing to ask
the lady on the radio, but every one of these
questions has a lot of details behind it that are
going to be really important in determining what the best
course of action is. But I can also tell you

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that I've had more than one listener reach out to
me and say, Mandy, I went to reach in revolution
and I had the consultation and they literally said you
need to go to a surgeon. And one of them
was mad, and I said, would you rather than sell
you something that wasn't going to be right for you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
You know what I mean, that's not what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
So Mandy, would you so would your guest suggest to
treat scar tissue of the penis to regain the elasticity.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
So thanks for asking this question. I think that a
lot of men suffer in silence with this very thing
because y'all don't talk to each other about stuff like this.
But this is not uncommon so for men, whether it's
an athletic injury or some sort of blunt force trauma
from riding your bicycle, or getting kicked in the genitals,

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or you know, a sex injury, these are not uncommon things.
It causes scar tissue to build up in the penis
and that doesn't have an immediate problem when you're young,
but in twenty years at scar tissue or strict blood
supply and causes erectile assumption. So yes, we treat this
all the time. Just again, I would look for you

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can go on our web page on our website regenrev
dot com. There's a page for the pea shot, and
at the bottom of that page there's like a you know,
there's a link to look at your SHIM score and
there's kind of an outline there of the different types
of treatment plans that we do based on the severity
of the ED. But yes, scar tissue and PRP are enemies.

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PRP eats scar tissue excellent. Rachel, Good to see my friend.
Good to see you too. Thanks a lot of way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
We're gonna be talking about it. I'll talk about it
in the ads and everything. But there's an event coming
up on February twelfth. It is their sort of New Year,
New you, you know, Valentine's Day kind of party. I
will be in attendance as well, so Markea Calendars will
be telling you about that as the details are firmed up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
It's good to see my friend. Thanks Andy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
All right, we'll be back.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Right after this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
Together.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
We're gonna take you right up and oh yeah, we're
gonna take you right up until three o'clock. I got
some stories that I want to talk about, and coming
up at two thirty we are going to talk to
Eli Lake.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
He is part of the Crack staff at the Free Press.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Dot com, and he's been writing about Venezuela and what
Trump's moves to arrest Medora will or will not do
to embolden our enemies. That was the big line from
the New York Times, although even they have seen to
drop that. He's also got a very good column about
Mark Rubio, and we're gonna get into that too. I'm

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not going to get into that right now because I've
got a couple other things that i want to share
with you, one of which is a column on how
Medicaid and the way it's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Designed is really rife for fraud.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
It is, the way it's set up has so many issues,
and there's a long column at the Daily Economy dot org,
and I want to share this part of you, this
part with you. Medicaid is a joint federal state program
that funds health insurance coverage for America is poor. The
federal government transfers funds to states, which then administer Medicaid programs,

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with some variations from state to state. The income threshold
to be eligible for Medicaid increased under the expansion of
the Affordable Care Act known as Obamacare. Because ACA enroll
leaes receive more federal dollars than traditional Medicaid.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
And let me just say that again, the people in the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Expansion get a higher percentage of reimbursement from the federal government. Now,
Zach asked early in the show, why would they do that. Well,
the logic is, we want the states to be incentivized
to add people to their Medicaid roles, and the easiest
way to do that is for us to say we'll
pick up more of the tap. Medicaid reimbursements work like this,

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Like the state pays ten percent in some cases. I
know in the Commonwealth of Kentucky, the state pays ten percent.
The federal government pays ninety percent. Some states the difference
is eighty twenty. Some are seventy thirty. I don't think
anybody's better than seventy thirty in terms of what the
state is paying. But there's a lot of incentive for

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states to inflate their Medicaid spending. One of those is
the hospital provider fee. You don't really think it was
designed to be a fee on providers, right, No, No,
it's just to pad the Medicaid numbers. It's the only
purpose of the hospital provider fee. I'm not even exaggerating
or kidding. It's just to pad the stats. The Centers

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for Medicaid and Medicare estimate Medicaid's improper payments fall within
three categories. Managed scare measured errors in payment states make
to private insurance companies that are contracted to deliver Medicaid benefits.
That is exactly where the fraud has been in Minnesota,
where you have people saying they're feeding children, or they've

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got kids at the leering center who are leering, you know,
and that's a joke because the learning center sign was misspelled.
So those people were being paid to deliver service they
simply were not delivering. Then there's fee for service measured
errors in payment states make directly to providers on behalf
of fee for service beneficiaries. That means you go to

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the doctor, the doctor says, oh you got stripped throat.
Here's a prescription. That's a fee for service. And eligibility
measured errors in eligibility determinations for both types of Medicaid beneficiary.
So what exactly do those three things account for when
it comes to Medicaid fraud ways and abuse. They were

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estimated at thirty one zero point one billion dollars. That's
five percent of all medicaid spending. Now, something else you
have to understand about medicaid is that Medicaid is the
largest budget line in many, many, many, many states. You know,
they put it under the umbrel of health you know, healthcare,

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but states only oversea really medicaid, right, They're not doing
anything else. So medicaid spending is huge. Five percent of
a huge number is also a huge number. This column
goes on to say this highlights a major weakness in
the program, whose size and complexity lead to clerical errors

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and procedural mistates. Additionally, when states fail to collect the
proper necessary documentation, such as up to date income verification,
improper payments, including.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Fraud, are more likely to occur.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Now, I said earlier in the show, I don't think
we've seen any signs thus far that Colorado has a
remotely this large medicaid problem. But I just fail to believe,
when we know that the problems are that significant, that
we should not expect to find some fraud in Colorado.

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And I would love it if the Republican candidates for
governor made this a part of their platform. And it's
really easy to say, look in order to protect not
only the taxpayer, but also the people on medicaid who
rely and need this service. We want to protect everybody.
We want to make sure that there is no waste, fraud,

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and abuse in our system, and we're going to do
a full audit top to bottom to make sure that
we are not squandering the hard earned taxpayer dollars that
we have collected to pay for this. I think that
would be a phenomenal campaign. I mean, maybe I'm wrong,
maybe other people don't cares about I do. I very
much care, very much care how government wastes my money,

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because a lot of it is being wasted. There's no
incentive in government to save taxpayer dollars. There's zero incentive
because essentially you don't necessarily feel it unless you're economically
astute enough to know that the more government overspends, the
higher inflation is going to be. So you know, it

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is easy to allow people to grift off the system,
especially if you think you're going to get their votes.
And I think that's a big part of it in Minnesota.
I think that the Minnesota politicians realize that the Somalis
are a very powerful voting block and therefore to call
them out for bad behavior, they risk being called racist
and anti Somali and losing that chunk of the vote.

(01:14:52):
And I'm wondering how many of the Somalis are even
supposed to be voting. If I'm honest, I don't know
what their voter ID system is in Minnesota. But I
you know, I'm just wondering, Mandy, is that how Tim
Scott drifted the system? What does that even mean? I
don't know what that means, Texter, I have no clue

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what you're asking there. All right, we also have a
couple stories on the blog that I have nothing to
do with that. Gosh, I got some really really good
stuff on the blog today, like really really good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Okay, I just want to talk now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I'm not going to talk about there's a great story
about Canadian medical assisting in dying. So the Canadian National
healthcare system as a way to manage expensive cases like
disabled people, they have now had multiple reports of disabled
people reporting that during a regular visit where there was

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nothing extraordinarily wrong, There was nothing, it was just a
regular here's my check up?

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
And they were offered.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Medical assistance in dying because they were just disabled that
was offered by the people from the National Health Center
in Canada. But listen to these statistics. Now, medical assistance
in dying is one of the leading causes of death
in Canada. To put things in perspective, says the column,

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twenty twenty three's record figure gives us a rate of
thirty seven made suicides per one hundred thousand people. During
the same year, the United States reported seventeen nine hundred
and twenty seven firearm homicides, resulting in a per capita
rate of five gun related murders per one hundred thousand.
That's thirty seven assistant suicide to five per one hundred

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thousand people. And you guys want national healthcare, Yeah, okay,
I'll pass. Made is a blessing that many hospice patients
shoes and I that is the argument for any kind
of medically assisted dying. That is the argument, But the

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reality is much different. And the column that I referenced
in the last segment. One of the things that they
kind of start with is remember when Sarah Palin said
that nationalizing health care would lead to death panels, Well,
this is exactly what made is becoming. There are cases
of disabled people who are not, you know, dying, they're

(01:17:31):
just disabled being offered made.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
In Canada, one woman who had an incredibly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Complex medical situation that the Canadian doctors could not handle,
was trying to be able to go from Toronto to
Buffalo to get the treatment that she needed, and the
Canadian government said no, but we'll be happy to offer
you made and said so she killed herself instead with
the government's help.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
That's the problem. That's a huge problem.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Mandy. Will you address Jim Walls just essentially threatening the
federal government during his press conference a few minutes ago,
You know what, I will, but only in the context
of an email that I got earlier from someone named Janis.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
Mandy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
I find it ironic as you were speaking about taking
up guns against fellow Americans, basically a civil war.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
You stated we didn't have the military.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Action against citizens you mentioned you couldn't think of a
place that happened. We are viewing an ice agent military
who had shot and killed a thirty seven year old
woman in Minneapolis. This is our future unless we are
willing to take down the rhetoric in this administration.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Trump meanwhile, is blaming the violent left.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Nuff said. I will absolutely talk about Tim Walls and
Mayor Fry and Mayor Mike Johnston with his fifty thousand
Highland Moms at the border of Denver, who were there
to fight with immigrant agents, who are doing their job,

(01:19:04):
who are working to undo four years of malpractice by
the former administration that allowed hundreds of fat, millions of
people to walk over the southern border. I didn't hear
anybody complaining. I didn't hear anybody talking tough men. I
didn't hear anybody threatening the government. But if Tim Wall's

(01:19:28):
on his way out the door because he is no
longer going to be governor after this election cycle, wants
to bang his chest and wave his jazz hands.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Around, who am I to get in his way?

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
I mean, come on, come on, by the way. Rossit
me an email about the shooting and in it Ross
shed Look, I don't know if it was I don't
think it was a criminal shoot, but I think I
don't think it was a good shoot. And a good
shoot means a justified shoot, meaning you were in danger
and you did what you took.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
You know, the argument will be made, and it will be.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Made by many, many, many people that this guy didn't
have to do that, but neither did she. And we
have protesters who have been so emboldened by left wing rhetoric,
not from the Trump administration, from the left that they
believe they have the right or even the duty to
interfere with the operations that ICE is undergoing. And you

(01:20:27):
know what, when you clip a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
With your car who has a gun, bad things can happen.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
And that's what seems to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Have happened here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
But again I said at the at the beginning of
the show, it's one of those things that I feel
like this may be one of those incidents, and someone
else pointed out between this and the Charlie Kirk murder,
these feel very important as sort of historical moments that
we should pay attention to, right because you already have
protesters on the scene things what sideways. You have all

(01:20:58):
kinds of people showing up wearing their little helmets with
their umbrellas, while I just trying to investigate what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
So it's just it's a mess, and Minnesota has no.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
One to blame but themselves. Really, honestly, this could happen
in any red stay or any Blues day right now.
It could happen in Colorado, the exact same thing could happen,
because when the people in charge say to other people, Hey,
you know what, these other people they're the bad people,
it implies at least a modicum of approval for those

(01:21:31):
violent actions, doesn't it. That's what I'm always told when
some wacko on the right does something I'm supposed to, are,
you know, apologize?

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
Are you sorry for your role in this?

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander?

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Are they sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Are they anyway? We're gonna take a quick time out
when we get back. Eli Lake is a fantastic writer
at the Free Press. You know how I love the
Free Press, and Eli Lake has written a lot about
Thevenezuela as Wait, we're going to talk to him next.
Why did Trump keep the vice president in place in Venezuela.

(01:22:08):
We'll have a chat about that as well. All Right,
we're back, and I realized we have not talked about
Venezuela at all today, which has got to be some
kind of record after the last two days. But joining
me now from that most favored publication online, the Free
Press dot com, Eli Lake has been writing about Venezuela.

(01:22:30):
He's been writing about Marco Rubio, and now we're going
to talk about it on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
First of all, Eli, welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (01:22:37):
Thanks so much for having me. It's great to be here,
my first time.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
On Well, welcome, and I hope this is the first
of many visits. Now, how much have you been paying
attention to Venezuela in recent years, months? Whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
When did you start dialing in.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
On this.

Speaker 7 (01:22:52):
Now I started writing about Venezuela. I've probably been on
this story for more than twenty years. I covered an
election that I believed after talking to you know, the
Venezuelan opposition that Hugo Shavas stolen two thousand and four.
I have been monitoring it somebody who covers national security.
It's been a challenge in the Western Hemisphere, the closeness

(01:23:14):
between Shavas and then Maduro with China and Russia and
now more recently Iran. So it's something I've been watching
for a while, and it's really remarkable to kind of
see finally Maduro, you know, facing some justice and hopefully
we will see the transition or what I like to
think of as the restoration of Venezuela and democracy, because

(01:23:36):
Venezuela has a long history of democratic institutions and we
shouldn't forget that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Well, see, and not that far, not that long ago,
they had a history of democratic institutions, so we have
It's not like they have to go back to their
grandmother to hear stories of what it was like like
Cubans do, right, you know, Cubans now have to go
to their grandparents to hear what Cuba was like before
the revolution.

Speaker 7 (01:23:58):
But in Venezuela, and also Cuba wasn't really democratic before
the revolution. I think that Castro has made the island
much worse. And you know, the Castros are dead and
now and the communist regime, I should say, but you know,
under Batiste it was an authoritarian state. It wasn't great.
I don't think they deserved a communist revolution, and I
think that that is, you know, kind of driven in

(01:24:21):
the Cuba into ruin. But it's not like Venezuela, and
that Venezuela does have a strong democratic tradition.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
So Eli, let me ask you this from your perspective,
since you've been following this for a long long time,
can you talk about the strategic nature of not just
bringing Venezuela back into the US fold, but also the
kind of stuff that's been happening in Central and South America.
I talk a lot on the show about China's investments
in Central and South America that are significant.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
I went to Costa Rica a.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Few years ago and was blown away to find out
that China had built the beautiful soccer stadium in San Jose.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
And not only did they build it, they didn't just
fund it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Brought in Chinese workers and built a Chinese city so
they could build this Chinese stadium for free in Costa Rica.
And I don't know how that can't raise antenna and say,
wait a minute, you know this is something we should
be paying attention to. So strategically, how does this line
up with sort of a better plan for Central and
South America.

Speaker 7 (01:25:20):
Well, there's a couple of things that China does. It
goes to developing nations and it offers a lot of
development infrastructure upfront. But this is known as a debt
trap because what you know, it also engages an incredible
kind of bribery schemes with political leadership. But you know,
paying for the infrastructure for a lot of these countries,

(01:25:43):
you know, kind of makes the governments themselves beholden to China.
And then the second thing is is that you know,
if you look at a company like Huawei, which is
the Chinese telecom Huahwei, because it has some built in advantages,
it has kind of an unlimited fund from the state
eight it can out it can underprice almost all of

(01:26:04):
its competitors. And I'm not just talking about actual cell phones,
but in terms of building the cell towers and things
like that. But what is China get. It gets all
of the data. And that's why Huawei is banned by
you know, the military and the US government. And we
had a you know, a few years back, but there
was an effort to try to basically get our allies

(01:26:25):
all over the world not to allow Huawei to build
their cell infrastructure. It's things like that which kind of
give China this huge advantage, and it's done under kind
of the iegis of international development, international aid. We're trying
to help people. So in that respect, it is dangerous
because when you when you get when you're a country,

(01:26:47):
you get in one of these debt traps, it pretty
much you know, over time, you become a satrope or
a colony in some ways of China. And that's a
real problem.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
I mean, it sounds like sort of like the payday
loan situation that people would understand that analogy a little bit,
that payday loans gets you into a dead cycle you
can't get out of. So where does Venezuela and its
relationship with China and its relationship with Iran? What is
the near term effect for Venezuela and what we're doing now,
how does that ripple effect out with those two specific partners.

Speaker 7 (01:27:18):
We have to see at this point because you know,
Delsia Rodriguez, the vice president, is i mean nominally in
charge of what Marco Rubio and others have called a
transition period so there can be another round of elections.
But she has blood on her hands. The Minister of Security, Cabillo,

(01:27:40):
the head of the military, the defends minister. These are
just gangster criminals. And the trick is, how do you
persuade them to leave power? Can you entice them to
do so if they're allowed to keep their fortunes and
kind of live and not be arrested or not be
you know, said before a firing squad, and that is

(01:28:01):
a kind of negotiation. But they're not going to do
it voluntarily. And you know, the Venezuelan opposition has already
proven just against enormous odds in twenty twenty four and
also in twenty nineteen. You know, they were able to
win elections even though the regime controlled the media. The

(01:28:22):
regime had these kind of you know, state funded militias
that are like motorcycle gangs that could beat up supporters
of anyone who said a bad word about Maduro. That
is a testament to how much Maduro and that regime,
that Shavista regime has driven the country into the ground.
Eight million Venezuelas have Venezuelans have left the country as

(01:28:44):
a refugee since twenty fourteen. That is an extraordinary number.
It's like more than a quarter of the population. The
once wealthy as a country in South America is now
it's poorest. This country, with vast natural resources mainly but
also rare earth, is in a dilapidated state because of
corruption and because they and they allowed for these other

(01:29:06):
great powers, namely China but also Roger to come in
and sort of exploit that wealth, all in the name
of you know, socialist Dante imperialism. For the Venezuelan people,
it was a fraud and Medua made that very clear.
So how do you persuade the people with the guns
right now that the gig is up? And I don't

(01:29:30):
know the answer to that. I think that some of
that might be through if Trump can say, hey, what
happened to Medua could happen to you. That's always helpful.
But I think he's made a strategic error in downplaying
at first the popularity and the democratic, frankly legitimacy of

(01:29:51):
Mariado Hijada and her opposition block. They won in twenty
twenty four. They probably won two thirds of the vote.
We Biden administration recognize that. Most European governments, most South
American governments have recognized that. So why would he say

(01:30:11):
they don't have legitimacy. I think that the better move
would have been to sort of say, we believe that
they won that election, but we want to go to
another election, and we're in a period of transition now,
and you have to negotiate with the rightful political leaders
of Venezuela, you know, and and we would like to
see a nice story for you, so you don't. You
can retire and like live out the rest of your days,

(01:30:32):
but you know, it can go a hard way for
you too. Now, the argument against that is that they
want to avoid a kind of Iraq style civil war.
The US doesn't want to be mired in a peacekeeping
process or a peacekeeping mission. I understand that, but at
the same time, I would like to see more details.
What's the plan? How are you going to get the

(01:30:52):
thugs that remain to leave?

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Well, let me you know, insert this kind of thought.
Back in the days of the Soviet in there were
still enough true believers, right, they were ideological true believers
through through being brought up that way or whatever. Is
Darcy Hernandez a true believer when it comes to socialism?

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Or is she more pragmatic?

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
Because after reading about her for the last twenty four
hours pretty much NonStop, she's worked in the oil industry,
she kept it limping along, and from a lot of
different respects, it seems to have been as successful as
a bad situation could be. Kind of thing like she's
the best of the worst. Is she pragmatic or is
she dogmatic? And if she's pragmatic, then to your point,

(01:31:35):
I think you do see a way to make those
offers and say, look, we'd love to offer you to
ride off into the sunset and remain, you know, wealthy
and unimprisoned. And I think what Trump just did by
going in with a military strike to pull Maduro out,
I think that's kind of sobering, you know. I mean,
wouldn't it, wouldn't you be sobered by all?

Speaker 7 (01:31:55):
I don't think thats as pragmatic as we would understand it.
And I would also say on the Soviet Union, by
the end of it, most people who had to live
under that slave state saw through it. In fact, I
would say, after the horrors of Stalin even I mean,
there's a famous episode in Soviet history where Nikita Krushev

(01:32:16):
had to deliver what was called a secret speech because
he would never dare say this in public because of
the cult of personality around Stalin. But he said to
kind of the presidium of the various commissars that ran
the Soviet Union that Stalin made a lot of terrible
mistakes and was a cruel and despotic leader. And it
was kind of a little minor victory for the US

(01:32:37):
and the Cold War because we got ahold of that speech.
But back to Telsea Rodriguez, you know, her father was
a committed socialist, revolutionary, So she's raised in that kind
of family she has, and I mean real blood on
her hands. That we're going to learn more about this,
I think in the coming weeks and months. But you know,
there are torture centers all over Venezuela and she is

(01:32:59):
mainly responsible for a lot of that in her positions,
So I am very doubtful. And then you just looked
at what her immediate statements were after Medoro was extradited.
You know, she gave a speech saying, and you know,
the Yankee imperialist was stolen our president, and you know,
we will resist and all this other stuff. And maybe

(01:33:20):
she's saying something else to Marco Rubio and President Trump
behind the scenes. It's quite possible. Politicians do that all
the time. But I'm not seeing much evidence that she's
willing to compromise at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
I agree with you wholeheartedly that I would like to
see a free and fair election, you know, a real
free and fair election to let Venezuela self determine. But
I also do see the point where you don't want
to let a vacuum exist in an area where cartels
still have so much power, and you risk allowing the
military to step in for a full military coup and

(01:33:53):
just take over because those guys are not good guys.
I want to ask you one more thing before we run.

Speaker 5 (01:33:59):
We'll go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:34:00):
I'm muted in my kind of critique at this point
because I think there's a lot we don't know, and
we know the CIA is active right now, so that's
kind of what they do. We know that Banacon has
certain capabilities. My hope is that the regular military is
in contact right now with the Venezuelan opposition and the
US government, and you know, they're the ones who have
the most guns, and if they can sort of say,

(01:34:20):
all right, we like a future in this country, and
maybe the top leadership has to go, but the institution
can stay. And that institution is going to work with
now a legitimate, democratically elected government that will try to
rescue Venezuela from this, you know, more than twenty year nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
I want to talk for a second about Secretary of
State Marco Rubio, because you wrote a great column about
Mark Rubio going from little Marco on the debate stage
to really being the face of what we're doing right
now in South and Central America. He has been to
South and Central America multiple times. But I found it
odd at the beginning of the year when and Scott

(01:35:00):
Bessant was going over and negotiating things, and there were
snide comments made like that he was the real Secretary
of State. What has changed in your mind that has
taken Marco Rubio from sitting back on the couch to
being a front, forward facing part of what's happening right now.

Speaker 7 (01:35:19):
Well, my reporting on it is that, you know, he's
a couple's of combination of a couple of things. First
of all, he's the no drama guy in the cabinet,
so he doesn't embarrass the White House the way that
hag Seth did, you know, with during what was known
as Signal Gate or Mike Walls and things like that.

(01:35:40):
He has not had any of those kinds of things.
He still has a very good relationship with Congress, even
though Congress, you know, for a lot of reasons, is
less important than it's ever been it seems, in our history.
But also, you know, Rubio, I think obviously once at
some point in his life to be president. Most people
who rise to become a US senator do almost every
senator things they could be president. But he also realized

(01:36:03):
that he couldn't defeat jad Vance in a primary in
twenty twenty eight, so he shrewdly understood that instead of
trying to undermine a potential political rival down the road,
he befriended him and he became very close friends with Vance.
Even though Vance and Rubio I think may have a
more ideologically in common because of Rubio himself has evolved,

(01:36:25):
but Rubio I think on foreign policy is in a
very different place than Jade Vance's. But nonetheless, Rubio sort
of understood that it was to his advantage not to
enter into that kind of contest that he would lose
because he didn't have the kind of job where he
could build a political operation. The vice president doesn't have
to do anything really except for have a pulse. And

(01:36:45):
you know, like Vance had had somewhat juiced because Turning
Point USA, which is so important to electing Trump in
twenty twenty four, was going to get behind Rubio. You know,
Charlie Kirk was very close before he was murdered with Vance.
And then we saw in the last Turning Point USA

(01:37:07):
meeting in December, Erica kirk Is window was saying, we're
going to help get Jade Vance in the White House
in twenty twenty eight. Okay, so Rubio knew all that,
and he didn't, you know, he was able to sort
of put his ego on check and sarah, I'm going
to befriend this guy, and it's I'm going to get
more out of it. That way that was very sharp,
because that way he didn't he sort of neutralized potential

(01:37:30):
enemies from within the MAGA coalition. And finally, I would
say some of it is just events. You know, before
Trump came in for the second term, there was still
a very much of a kind of view for most Americans,
let alone the MAGA coalition that helped elect him, that
you know, we don't want to do something like a

(01:37:50):
rock again overseas. Military interventions, you know, don't turn out
right for us, and we got to focus on our
problems at home. I think when Trump the success that
Trump had in June with Operation mid Night Hammer, where
he took out the main Iranian nuclear facilities after Israel
really softened the ground, taking out the air defense systems
and so forth, and watching Israel's success with a lot

(01:38:12):
of American weaponry, I think kind of proved not just
to Trump, but to lots of people that wait a
second America and military can sometimes be very successful and
it need not lead to a kind of endless war
where we're trying to do nation building and peacekeeping, all
the things that most Americans don't want to see us
repeat that we associate with Iraq and Afghanistan. And in

(01:38:35):
that respect, I think that you know, Trump was more
open to very aggressive ideas that Rubio has always kind
of had. He's evolved on a number of things, particularly
like free market capitalism, but Rubio has had his true
north star because he is a son of Cuban immigrants
that he would like to remove the communist, socialist tyrannies

(01:38:58):
of Latin America. He has always been, I think, you know,
the most one of the most strongest opponents of the
Madora regime and the Cuban communist regime, and he was
able to kind of win the day because you know,
Trump looks around and says, you know what operations like this.
You know, there is an alternative between doing nothing and

(01:39:20):
launching in a rock style war, and I think Rubio
was sort of the man of the moment in that regard.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Eli Lake, thank you so much for making time today.
Super fascinating conversation, much like you're writing thank you for
having Yeah, much like you're writing at the Free Press
THEFP dot com. Everyone should subscribe as I do. I
hope we talk again in the future.

Speaker 7 (01:39:37):
E lif would love it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Thank you all right, thank you so much. We are
now ready for the most Wait a minute, and now
it's time for the most exciting segment on the radio
on his guide in the world of the day. All
what is our dad joke of the day please. By

(01:39:58):
the way, there will be no time foolery like there
was yesterday with the dad joke. I just want to know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
Go ahead, yeah, the dad joke of the day today.
Why did the cowboy adopt a wiener dog?

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
The cowboy adopt a wiener dog? I don't know, you
want a long little doggie?

Speaker 5 (01:40:19):
He wanted to get a long little dog.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Come on, that guy said, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
It came to me. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
What's our word of the day, please, sir.

Speaker 5 (01:40:31):
Word of the day today is eminently.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Eminently coming up? Yeah, like coming up next or coming
up very very soon.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Uh, to be clear, not imminently with.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
I am like I'm over something. I'm in charge, like
you're you're over seeing something imminent?

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Yes, a high degree. Okay. Today's trivia question.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Each the twelve zodiac signs in Western astrology is associated
with one of four elements earth, air.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
Fire, and water.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
What three astrological signs are associated with water?

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
So one of them has to be Pisces, Aquarius Aquarius and.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
C Areas is air. I don't know what's the third. Oh,
we're so wrong. Scorpio, water, cancer and Pisces. Okay, I'm
a Scorpio Aquarius isn't water? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:41:35):
I mean who knew, right?

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Obviously not me?

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Didn't know?

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Me?

Speaker 5 (01:41:39):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
What is our jeopardy category?

Speaker 5 (01:41:41):
Please?

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Jeopardy category today? Is two word? US cities?

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Two US cities all right?

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
Like you know have two names like the l pass
Lay that'll be one of them. Home to one of
the USA's oldest universities, it also hosts southern Connecticut state.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
What is New Haven? Correct?

Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
There you go?

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Okay? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Located on the shores of Tampa Bay, it was named
for a railroad builders home city and Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
What is Saint Petersburg?

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
Correctly jow Established by French soldiers around seventeen nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
This colorful city. What is New Orleans?

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Close, but not quite colorful.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
It's located about eighty miles northwest of New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Oh, I know, eighty miles north.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Mandy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
What is Baton Rouge? That would be correct?

Speaker 5 (01:42:44):
Next up here?

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
In eighteen forty nine, it began as a military outpost
to defend against Native Americans and was named for a
commander of US troops in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
Mandy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
What is San Antonio? Ah, dang, it be mine, but
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Time is out? I can't What is it? Fort Worth?
So stupid?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
So?

Speaker 7 (01:43:14):
Zero one?

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
Yeah, zero one?

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
Last one? Here a popular tourist destination drawing or sorry,
a popular tourist destination drawing millions each year. This seat
of Clark County was settled by Mormon missionaries in eighteen
fifty five.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Clark County.

Speaker 7 (01:43:32):
I should know this.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
That was in the county, Rob, what is Las Vegas?

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
That is correct?

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
We need a tiebreaker, quick, quick, quick, quick tiebreaker.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
Here Stevens played by Anthony Hopkins in the Remains of
the Day and Carson played by Jim Carter on Dalton
Abbey had this household John.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
They were They were Butler's water. Butler's correct, man, So
the bonus question isn't a part of the category the bonus.
The bonus question is is whatever right there and the
butler did it?

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Thank you, Rob Dawson. That was a good game.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
We'll be back tomorrow. Keep it right here on KOA