January 28, 2025 • 13 mins
LELAND CONWAY POPS IN TO TALK ABOUT A BAD GUN BILL Many of you know Leland from his time on KHOW but he also has a full time gig with a company called Delta Defense and is testifying today on behalf of the US Concealed Carry Association.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Many of you remember Leland from fill in work here
and his work on KJOW and now you can hear
him on San.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Diego's Kogos six hundred coco.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, and that is seven pm here to nine pm.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Here correct, Yeah, six to eight.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
If you want to listen on the iire radio app,
it's free Crystal Cleare Digital Audio anyway, but he's here
in his Clark Kent persona. What you guys may not
know about Leland is that, in addition to his superman
impression on the radio, he also has a very serious
and respectable job outside of radio. Because God knows, none
of this is respectable. Tell little people about what you
(00:35):
do for Delta.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah. So I work for a company called Delta Defense.
We manage the US Concil Carey Association. It's the largest
organization of its kind in the world. It's eight hundred
and fifty thousand American responsible goalowers. Yeah, and so our
goal is literally I've worked for the company for five
years and our goal literally is morning tonight saving lives.
(00:57):
And we do that by helping law abidings essentially train
better be more responsible with their firearm, understand how to
de escalate and escape situations. Before they turn into a
self defense incident. But if they get in it, we
want them to win it. Right.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, I am something I'm gonna tell you I'm your
organization to do off the air, but I don't want
to say it on the air because then if you
don't do it, everybody like Leland that has a great idea,
why don't you do that? You're here, I know you're here,
headed to the Gold Dome today. What we have yet
another gun control bill? And for anyone who thinks that
the Democrats here in Colorado will ever stop, the answer
(01:34):
is no, they will never stop trying to take away
your gun rights.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah. There's something different about this one too, because it's
an assault weapons ban. And you and I we've worked
together on this, you know, in this building, on these
issues in years past, and it almost always seemed like
to me that they would run an assault weapons ban
to get us as gun owners all like fired up
about that, and then they'd be like, oh, well, we're
just going to do a three day waiting period, right,
(02:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, we're going to span the red flag laws.
This one's different because the speed with which they are
putting this through scares me because I think it's highly organized.
I think it's an effort that's put on by national
groups to try to use Colorado as a test ground. Yep.
And it is the most sweeping assault weapons span law
(02:21):
that if passed in the country, like, worse than California,
worse than Maryland.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But wait, Leland, it does not say assault weapons in it.
That's right, because they finally.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Learned the magazine. It's a magazine law.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
A detachable magazine law. And wait, explain. I want to
have this conversation because the number of people who are
spouting off who obviously know absolutely nothing about a firearm
at all, it's pretty remarkable. So let's talk to them
for just a second about what we're actually talking about.
(02:55):
When we're talking about a detachable magazine ban, this would
affect shotguns, would affect right, and any pistols that can
accept a detachable magazine. Does that mean my nine mil
with a standard magazine is now going to be outlawed?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So it's funky in the language. Okay, Theoretically, your nine
millimeter regular pistol semi automatic is probably not going to
be banned. It would be if it's a pistol it
has to be gas powered. Right, So it has to
have that sort of ar style gas chamber, and it does, right.
That's where that part of the band comes in. However,
(03:27):
it's worded very, very confusingly, and it allows a guy
named Phil Wiser who once said that by the second
time your car is stolen, then that person should probably
go to jail to interpret what those words actually mean,
because it's actually contradictory on the pistol. The magazine part's
really interesting too, because you have a detachable magazine on,
say an AR fifteen or one of my favorite firearms
(03:48):
in my arsenal that I lost in an unfortunate boating
accident is an AR twelve. This is a twelve gage
shotgun styled as an Hour fifteen that would be banned,
so I'll have to lose it in a boating accident again.
But anyway to play you what.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
For a guy who doesn't have a boat, you have
a lot of boating accidents. It's so weird in this state. Yeah,
you're not. I'm not letting you on my boat anytime.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But the thing is, it doesn't ban a permanently attached magazine. Okay,
here's the problem with that permanently attached magazines are part
of the mechanism of the entire gun. It's not detachable,
so you load it from the top. Now, imagine you
get halfway through a magazine and you say, I'm done
shooting for the day, so I want to put my
firearm away. Well, you got half of the magazine full,
(04:29):
and there's no way to unload it without taking a
loaded gun apart, which is you and I know is
a recipe for disaster or trying to actually disassemble the
entire firearm. Whereas when I get done with shooting my
ar fifteen, if I've got a fifteen round magazine and
I shoot seven rounds, I have eight left. I simply
pull the magazine out, check the chamber.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I'm good And according to Diana, to get once that
magazine's been used, runch, you can't. You can't be used again. Yeah,
that is like a throwback news comment right there. And
I hope that those to you that got that joke
really appreciated that. I just wanted to give that for
the old timers. There you go. So, Leland, what in
the world makes the Colorado legislature think this is going
(05:11):
to stand up to a Supreme Court challenge, which would
it be instantaneous.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, it's a great question, but I'm not so sure
it would be instantaneous. And here's the problem. I thought,
if you'd asked me last year, is this a pro
gun Supreme Court, I'd have been like, yeah, perc, we're good.
But the more I look at it, the more I'm like,
I'm not so sure. They refuse to take up the
Snopes case. Yes, the snopecase yet, which is really about
(05:35):
an assault weapons ban, and so we're not one hundred
percent sure. Now I do think this goes so far
that it will finally pervent the Supreme Court to say, hey,
we got to look at this. But I'm not so
sure that, say Amy Cony, Barrett, or even Justice Roberts,
I'm not one hundred percent sure they think that the
Second Amendment encompasses. So I'm worried about that to be.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
And this is my understanding of where we are on
the Supreme Court. Cases that have come out of this
somewhat this version of the court, not exactly, but they
have found that you have to explain or use the
standards that the founding father used, and that's too gross
oversimplification of the standard that I'm talking about, but I
don't have a better way to explain it. So there's
(06:20):
no historical standard for this kind of stuff. So if
you apply the historical standard, you know there were always
weapons that fired more than one bullet. Like, they don't
address the mechanism they're in, right, And when Joe Biden
said you can't buy a cannon, I'm like, have you
ever been to the South? I know multiple people who
own multiple cannons that they still fire just for fun, right,
So I mean, I don't know, I think from that perspective,
(06:43):
but it is one of those things where you just
know that the Democrats in Colorado are not going to
rest until they disarm as many people as they can.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
True, And can I talk real quick about the sentiment
that the founding fathers in own please, because this is
a really important point that I often don't even hear
pro Second Amendment people advocate. They always focus in on
what kind of gun or what they meant and whatever
the reality is. There was a battle going on between
federalists and anti federalists at the time, and they were
arguing over the size and scope of the government, and
the federalists said, hey, don't worry about a powerful government.
(07:12):
The people are armed, is no big deal. And the
anti federalists said, of course they're going to be armed,
but that's not enough, and that was the only thing
they agreed on. So there was never any discussion about
whether or not the entire population would most likely be
armed with whatever they wanted right to.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Deserve the purpose of controlling the government. Correct, Okay, correct,
because these guys that.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Are arguing over the Second Amendment just finished a revolution
where they would have been hanged if they lost. Yeah,
so it blows my mind to think that we're even
still arguing about whether or not we're allowed to have
these things. But that being said, at the end of
the day, we have I think good hearted people in
some cases that think they're making things safer and in
reality they're actually not. And so our job as citizens
(07:52):
is to go up and testify at the Capitol and
try to explain to them that you're making guns less safe,
not more safe, and you're making it's less safe, not
more safe. And I think there's a better way we
can work in a bipartisan effort to solve the problem
of violence that doesn't involve taking people's constitutional rights away.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Can you stick around for another second ary half to go, Okay,
so let's do this and take a break when we
get back. I'm when I talk about two things. I
just got one of my favorite text messages, Mandy, no
one needs an assault rifle or weapon. Okay, we're going
to come back to that. I already responded. I'll tell
you what I responded when I get back. But I
also want to kind of have a discussion about and
I lost my train of thought, so we'll do that
(08:29):
when we get back. But he's in town today to
testify aments this god awful gun bill at the Capitol,
and I remembered what I was going to say, and
that was, if the Colorado Democrats were serious about going
after gun violence, they would increase the penalties on people
who use guns in the commission of a crime. They
would immediately send felons who were in possession of firearms
(08:54):
back to jail. I mean, all of these things would
make a huge difference, and they'd make it really quickly,
and yet none.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Of that is being discussed, right And that's that's what
I hope in you know, conversations today at the Capitol
to kind of open some eyes along those lines, right,
Like you're not gonna find any law abiding gun owners
that are gonna be against what you just said.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Right. On the other hand, less than one percent of
crimes of any type of any type I mean not
just I mean stealing, bubble gum, white collar crime, less
than one percent are committed by people who lawfully own guns.
So we're not the ones that need to be punished.
And yet because criminals will in fact disobey this law.
Shut up. Can you believe it? Did you get that memo? No? Yeah? So,
(09:36):
I mean it's it's it's backwards in the way it's thinking,
even for those that are trying to do something positive.
And I just I would say to anybody listening right
now that's on the other side of this issue, Let's
do something positive together. Right. Let's talk about making sure
that people who have access to firearms have access also
to mental health help. Right, Let's talk about those kinds
of issues. Let's talk about putting felons in jail when
(09:59):
they commit a client I'm with a gun. Let's talk
about those things and watch what happens, because you will
see violence go down in that situation.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
If you take away the ability of violent people who
have already engaged in violent to continue to wreak violence.
You're right, Yeah, other things sort of sort themselves out. Now.
I want to respond to this texter, and I want
to ask you what you would have said to the mandy,
No one needs an assault rifle or weapon, and then
I will tell you what I said in response to it.
And I did not curse just to give you a yeah,
(10:27):
that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
No, my first response would be a question, define assault weapon?
Because every single thing that you can use as a
weapon in an assault. And that's where people get kind
of divided on this, and I'm like, it's not dividing,
it's just logic. If somebody does something against another person's will, right, physically,
that's an assault. What they use is irrelevant. Some are
(10:48):
more potent tools than others.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
That's the people on the sixteen Street mall exactly right.
And an assault knife.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It was an assault knife. So my response is always
the first thing is define an assault weapon. Are you
saying that my thirty at six hunting rifle, which looks
very docile because it's just a normal rifle with no
weird scary government stuff on it, that that is somehow
less dangerous than my AR fifteen, which actually is really
just a souped up twenty two caliber. Well, what damage
is a thirty odd six going to do compared to
(11:14):
a twenty two caliber? Right, there's a huge misunderstanding in
that situation of what we're actually talking about. Right, it's
a rifle that looks scary because some people maybe they
just like having fun with those kinds of weapons. But
law Aboundy citizens are not going out and shooting people
with that. Criminals are and actually very rarely use that
type of weapon anyway. Criminals use the weapons that won't
be banned under this law, interestingly, And I just respond
(11:37):
to hear your response.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
In a free society, you don't get to decide what
other people need, Yes, and that's that's their you know.
And don't get me wrong, I don't have the right
to buy a firearm and then shoot at your house.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
The old libertarian adage of your right to throw a
punch ends at my nose. I don't have the right
to use my rights against someone else. But you don't
get to decide what I need or don't need. You
don't get to decide what I say or don't say. Yeah,
it's like telling someone else. You can't say that, well, yeah,
I actually can. You know, you don't get to decide
how someone else lives within those rights as long as
(12:10):
I'm not infringing on your rights. Uh, And I promise
I won't shoot you unless you try to kill me,
in which case all that's off.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, I mean that's just me. That's her opinion, and
I respectfully disagree with it, right, but the Constitution says otherwise.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, so you're going to testify today. What committee is
this in?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's actually in the Military Veterans Affairs Committee, which is
kind of interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a little bit interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know, So who is who's the head of that committee?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Do you remember? Uh? To remember the head? Well, I
think it's you know, Belle is on that committee. You
would ask me all the names.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, that's okay. I was just curious if it was
somebody that popped out at you right away and what
their leanings.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Might be.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
By the way, according to our Common Spirit Health text line,
losing guns in a boating accident is really common with
KOA listeners. Apparently the preblo reservoir must be.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Just yeah, mine was not mine was eleven mile. That's
where I lost there. You go gun safe. People keep
asking me why I had my liberty safe in my
boat out there on eleven mile.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But you want to keep it closed. You want to
keep it closing case.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Don't want anybody to have on it. On the front.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You have the fish work bidy, you got time to
clean some weapons whatever. Don't don't judge, don't judge, don't Leland.
It's good to see your face. Man. Let me know
how this all goes. Please give me a text if
any sort of resolution happens, I would have absolutely thank
your
Many of you remember Leland from fill in work here
and his work on KJOW and now you can hear
him on San.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Diego's Kogos six hundred coco.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, and that is seven pm here to nine pm.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Here correct, Yeah, six to eight.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
If you want to listen on the iire radio app,
it's free Crystal Cleare Digital Audio anyway, but he's here
in his Clark Kent persona. What you guys may not
know about Leland is that, in addition to his superman
impression on the radio, he also has a very serious
and respectable job outside of radio. Because God knows, none
of this is respectable. Tell little people about what you
(00:35):
do for Delta.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah. So I work for a company called Delta Defense.
We manage the US Concil Carey Association. It's the largest
organization of its kind in the world. It's eight hundred
and fifty thousand American responsible goalowers. Yeah, and so our
goal is literally I've worked for the company for five
years and our goal literally is morning tonight saving lives.
(00:57):
And we do that by helping law abidings essentially train
better be more responsible with their firearm, understand how to
de escalate and escape situations. Before they turn into a
self defense incident. But if they get in it, we
want them to win it. Right.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, I am something I'm gonna tell you I'm your
organization to do off the air, but I don't want
to say it on the air because then if you
don't do it, everybody like Leland that has a great idea,
why don't you do that? You're here, I know you're here,
headed to the Gold Dome today. What we have yet
another gun control bill? And for anyone who thinks that
the Democrats here in Colorado will ever stop, the answer
(01:34):
is no, they will never stop trying to take away
your gun rights.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah. There's something different about this one too, because it's
an assault weapons ban. And you and I we've worked
together on this, you know, in this building, on these
issues in years past, and it almost always seemed like
to me that they would run an assault weapons ban
to get us as gun owners all like fired up
about that, and then they'd be like, oh, well, we're
just going to do a three day waiting period, right,
(02:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, we're going to span the red flag laws.
This one's different because the speed with which they are
putting this through scares me because I think it's highly organized.
I think it's an effort that's put on by national
groups to try to use Colorado as a test ground. Yep.
And it is the most sweeping assault weapons span law
(02:21):
that if passed in the country, like, worse than California,
worse than Maryland.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But wait, Leland, it does not say assault weapons in it.
That's right, because they finally.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Learned the magazine. It's a magazine law.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
A detachable magazine law. And wait, explain. I want to
have this conversation because the number of people who are
spouting off who obviously know absolutely nothing about a firearm
at all, it's pretty remarkable. So let's talk to them
for just a second about what we're actually talking about.
(02:55):
When we're talking about a detachable magazine ban, this would
affect shotguns, would affect right, and any pistols that can
accept a detachable magazine. Does that mean my nine mil
with a standard magazine is now going to be outlawed?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So it's funky in the language. Okay, Theoretically, your nine
millimeter regular pistol semi automatic is probably not going to
be banned. It would be if it's a pistol it
has to be gas powered. Right, So it has to
have that sort of ar style gas chamber, and it does, right.
That's where that part of the band comes in. However,
(03:27):
it's worded very, very confusingly, and it allows a guy
named Phil Wiser who once said that by the second
time your car is stolen, then that person should probably
go to jail to interpret what those words actually mean,
because it's actually contradictory on the pistol. The magazine part's
really interesting too, because you have a detachable magazine on,
say an AR fifteen or one of my favorite firearms
(03:48):
in my arsenal that I lost in an unfortunate boating
accident is an AR twelve. This is a twelve gage
shotgun styled as an Hour fifteen that would be banned,
so I'll have to lose it in a boating accident again.
But anyway to play you what.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
For a guy who doesn't have a boat, you have
a lot of boating accidents. It's so weird in this state. Yeah,
you're not. I'm not letting you on my boat anytime.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But the thing is, it doesn't ban a permanently attached magazine. Okay,
here's the problem with that permanently attached magazines are part
of the mechanism of the entire gun. It's not detachable,
so you load it from the top. Now, imagine you
get halfway through a magazine and you say, I'm done
shooting for the day, so I want to put my
firearm away. Well, you got half of the magazine full,
(04:29):
and there's no way to unload it without taking a
loaded gun apart, which is you and I know is
a recipe for disaster or trying to actually disassemble the
entire firearm. Whereas when I get done with shooting my
ar fifteen, if I've got a fifteen round magazine and
I shoot seven rounds, I have eight left. I simply
pull the magazine out, check the chamber.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I'm good And according to Diana, to get once that
magazine's been used, runch, you can't. You can't be used again. Yeah,
that is like a throwback news comment right there. And
I hope that those to you that got that joke
really appreciated that. I just wanted to give that for
the old timers. There you go. So, Leland, what in
the world makes the Colorado legislature think this is going
(05:11):
to stand up to a Supreme Court challenge, which would
it be instantaneous.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, it's a great question, but I'm not so sure
it would be instantaneous. And here's the problem. I thought,
if you'd asked me last year, is this a pro
gun Supreme Court, I'd have been like, yeah, perc, we're good.
But the more I look at it, the more I'm like,
I'm not so sure. They refuse to take up the
Snopes case. Yes, the snopecase yet, which is really about
(05:35):
an assault weapons ban, and so we're not one hundred
percent sure. Now I do think this goes so far
that it will finally pervent the Supreme Court to say, hey,
we got to look at this. But I'm not so
sure that, say Amy Cony, Barrett, or even Justice Roberts,
I'm not one hundred percent sure they think that the
Second Amendment encompasses. So I'm worried about that to be.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
And this is my understanding of where we are on
the Supreme Court. Cases that have come out of this
somewhat this version of the court, not exactly, but they
have found that you have to explain or use the
standards that the founding father used, and that's too gross
oversimplification of the standard that I'm talking about, but I
don't have a better way to explain it. So there's
(06:20):
no historical standard for this kind of stuff. So if
you apply the historical standard, you know there were always
weapons that fired more than one bullet. Like, they don't
address the mechanism they're in, right, And when Joe Biden
said you can't buy a cannon, I'm like, have you
ever been to the South? I know multiple people who
own multiple cannons that they still fire just for fun, right,
So I mean, I don't know, I think from that perspective,
(06:43):
but it is one of those things where you just
know that the Democrats in Colorado are not going to
rest until they disarm as many people as they can.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
True, And can I talk real quick about the sentiment
that the founding fathers in own please, because this is
a really important point that I often don't even hear
pro Second Amendment people advocate. They always focus in on
what kind of gun or what they meant and whatever
the reality is. There was a battle going on between
federalists and anti federalists at the time, and they were
arguing over the size and scope of the government, and
the federalists said, hey, don't worry about a powerful government.
(07:12):
The people are armed, is no big deal. And the
anti federalists said, of course they're going to be armed,
but that's not enough, and that was the only thing
they agreed on. So there was never any discussion about
whether or not the entire population would most likely be
armed with whatever they wanted right to.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Deserve the purpose of controlling the government. Correct, Okay, correct,
because these guys that.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Are arguing over the Second Amendment just finished a revolution
where they would have been hanged if they lost. Yeah,
so it blows my mind to think that we're even
still arguing about whether or not we're allowed to have
these things. But that being said, at the end of
the day, we have I think good hearted people in
some cases that think they're making things safer and in
reality they're actually not. And so our job as citizens
(07:52):
is to go up and testify at the Capitol and
try to explain to them that you're making guns less safe,
not more safe, and you're making it's less safe, not
more safe. And I think there's a better way we
can work in a bipartisan effort to solve the problem
of violence that doesn't involve taking people's constitutional rights away.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Can you stick around for another second ary half to go, Okay,
so let's do this and take a break when we
get back. I'm when I talk about two things. I
just got one of my favorite text messages, Mandy, no
one needs an assault rifle or weapon. Okay, we're going
to come back to that. I already responded. I'll tell
you what I responded when I get back. But I
also want to kind of have a discussion about and
I lost my train of thought, so we'll do that
(08:29):
when we get back. But he's in town today to
testify aments this god awful gun bill at the Capitol,
and I remembered what I was going to say, and
that was, if the Colorado Democrats were serious about going
after gun violence, they would increase the penalties on people
who use guns in the commission of a crime. They
would immediately send felons who were in possession of firearms
(08:54):
back to jail. I mean, all of these things would
make a huge difference, and they'd make it really quickly,
and yet none.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Of that is being discussed, right And that's that's what
I hope in you know, conversations today at the Capitol
to kind of open some eyes along those lines, right,
Like you're not gonna find any law abiding gun owners
that are gonna be against what you just said.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Right. On the other hand, less than one percent of
crimes of any type of any type I mean not
just I mean stealing, bubble gum, white collar crime, less
than one percent are committed by people who lawfully own guns.
So we're not the ones that need to be punished.
And yet because criminals will in fact disobey this law.
Shut up. Can you believe it? Did you get that memo? No? Yeah? So,
(09:36):
I mean it's it's it's backwards in the way it's thinking,
even for those that are trying to do something positive.
And I just I would say to anybody listening right
now that's on the other side of this issue, Let's
do something positive together. Right. Let's talk about making sure
that people who have access to firearms have access also
to mental health help. Right, Let's talk about those kinds
of issues. Let's talk about putting felons in jail when
(09:59):
they commit a client I'm with a gun. Let's talk
about those things and watch what happens, because you will
see violence go down in that situation.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
If you take away the ability of violent people who
have already engaged in violent to continue to wreak violence.
You're right, Yeah, other things sort of sort themselves out. Now.
I want to respond to this texter, and I want
to ask you what you would have said to the mandy,
No one needs an assault rifle or weapon, and then
I will tell you what I said in response to it.
And I did not curse just to give you a yeah,
(10:27):
that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
No, my first response would be a question, define assault weapon?
Because every single thing that you can use as a
weapon in an assault. And that's where people get kind
of divided on this, and I'm like, it's not dividing,
it's just logic. If somebody does something against another person's will, right, physically,
that's an assault. What they use is irrelevant. Some are
(10:48):
more potent tools than others.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
That's the people on the sixteen Street mall exactly right.
And an assault knife.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It was an assault knife. So my response is always
the first thing is define an assault weapon. Are you
saying that my thirty at six hunting rifle, which looks
very docile because it's just a normal rifle with no
weird scary government stuff on it, that that is somehow
less dangerous than my AR fifteen, which actually is really
just a souped up twenty two caliber. Well, what damage
is a thirty odd six going to do compared to
(11:14):
a twenty two caliber? Right, there's a huge misunderstanding in
that situation of what we're actually talking about. Right, it's
a rifle that looks scary because some people maybe they
just like having fun with those kinds of weapons. But
law Aboundy citizens are not going out and shooting people
with that. Criminals are and actually very rarely use that
type of weapon anyway. Criminals use the weapons that won't
be banned under this law, interestingly, And I just respond
(11:37):
to hear your response.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
In a free society, you don't get to decide what
other people need, Yes, and that's that's their you know.
And don't get me wrong, I don't have the right
to buy a firearm and then shoot at your house.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
The old libertarian adage of your right to throw a
punch ends at my nose. I don't have the right
to use my rights against someone else. But you don't
get to decide what I need or don't need. You
don't get to decide what I say or don't say. Yeah,
it's like telling someone else. You can't say that, well, yeah,
I actually can. You know, you don't get to decide
how someone else lives within those rights as long as
(12:10):
I'm not infringing on your rights. Uh, And I promise
I won't shoot you unless you try to kill me,
in which case all that's off.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, I mean that's just me. That's her opinion, and
I respectfully disagree with it, right, but the Constitution says otherwise.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, so you're going to testify today. What committee is
this in?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's actually in the Military Veterans Affairs Committee, which is
kind of interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a little bit interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know, So who is who's the head of that committee?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Do you remember? Uh? To remember the head? Well, I
think it's you know, Belle is on that committee. You
would ask me all the names.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
No, that's okay. I was just curious if it was
somebody that popped out at you right away and what
their leanings.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Might be.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
By the way, according to our Common Spirit Health text line,
losing guns in a boating accident is really common with
KOA listeners. Apparently the preblo reservoir must be.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Just yeah, mine was not mine was eleven mile. That's
where I lost there. You go gun safe. People keep
asking me why I had my liberty safe in my
boat out there on eleven mile.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But you want to keep it closed. You want to
keep it closing case.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Don't want anybody to have on it. On the front.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You have the fish work bidy, you got time to
clean some weapons whatever. Don't don't judge, don't judge, don't Leland.
It's good to see your face. Man. Let me know
how this all goes. Please give me a text if
any sort of resolution happens, I would have absolutely thank
your
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