01-30-25 FULL SHOW - A Horrible Plane Crash in DC, And Mayor Johnston Gets Crap

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Maybe we will, maybe we won't. We don't know.

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You're just gonna have to stick around and find out.
It's not on there yet, Anthony, So let me do this.
We're making sure everything is on the blog as it
is supposed to be. Still not there, but that's oh yes,
it is just popped out there.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
We go.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I got a lot of stuff to talk about, but
I want to start the show by talking about what
I do this morning. And I'm not talking about you know,
like working out and taking a shower. I'm talking about
I just did a tour of Children's Hospital in Aurora,
and we are about to start doing commercials for the
Mighty Millions Raffle, which is their biggest fundraiser of the
year that supports incredible programming at Children's Hospital. And when

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we do these on sales for Mighty Million's Raffle. We
just talk about the fact that in this raffle someone
is going to win a house. And they have all
of these amazing other prizes that people can win, but
someone absolutely will win a house in this in the
house this year's in winter Park. But I went to
Children's Hospital with a different perspective this year because this
past year the que my daughter has been plagued with

(01:44):
migraines since she was about four years old, and this
is a hereditary condition of my family. All the women
in my family have it. It's one of those things
as a parent you immediately feel guilty about that your
gene pools inflicted this on your child. But this past
year she became part of the headach clinic of is
at Children's Hospital, and I got to experience what it's
like to get outpatient care there. And the first time

(02:07):
we went, I told Chuck, I said, this hospital is
squared away like it's super efficient, but it's not institutionally,
it doesn't feel like a hospital, and everyone is so
incredibly pleasant, and the whole hospital is built to be
kids size, and it's just so Today I went and
did a tour where I got to know a little
bit more about some of the services that are offered

(02:27):
by Children's Hospital, and you guys, we are so incredibly
lucky to have Children's Hospital right here in the metro area.
There are remote locations, there's one in Highlands Ranch, there's
one in Broomfield, there's one in the Springs, but the
main campus is right there on the cun Shoots campus.

(02:48):
They are part of that big hospital campus that goes
from the VA to cu An Shootes. And just the
stuff that I saw today and the intentionality that the
entire facility was built with keeping in mind that some
children are going to be in Children's Hospital for months
getting treatment for very specific diseases and cancer and all

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of these other horrible things that nobody would wish on
any child, and that it really is a parent's worse nightmare.
But in addition to creating this environment where kids can thrive,
where kids can continue their schooling so when they're done
with their battle, they're not behind in school, and they
have created the most magical place for kids that I

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have ever set foot in in my life. And not
only that, they've taken great care to make sure that
the parents of these children are taken care of too.
It is just everything is so thoughtful, everything is so
scientifically thought out to make being in the hospital for
a long time for a kid that is battling some disease,

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whose parents are there all the time helping them battle
this disease to help them be successful in that battle.
It is just unbelievable. I was absolutely blown away. So yes,
I'm going to be selling those mighty million raffle tickets
where someone is going to win a house. But never
has there been a raffle of any kind, in my view,

(04:11):
for a better cause than Children's Hospital. And we are
so lucky. There's not another facility like this within a
thousand miles. People come from all over the Western States
to get care here because there's nothing else like it.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
It's just it was just.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Astounding, and I was just so impressed. And I'm even
more impressed now and more excited to sell you those
tickets and more excited to buy my own ticket to
the mighty millions raffle. And I'm also excited to tell
you about our blog, which you can find by going
to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for
the headline that says one thirty twenty five blog, Can

(04:46):
we just stop for a moment? A do you realize
that we are nearing the end of January?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yes, it's a little weird. What I mean January?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
It's like a was Christmas like a week ago?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
No?

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Christmas does feel like a while ago.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
No, not for I'm mad that all the Christmas lights
are down now because stock show's over, and now when
you drive around at night, it's gloomy and depressing because
all the Christmas. I think I should push that we
should keep our Christmas lights until spring forward. I'm just
gonna throw that out there, never mind one thirty twenty
five blog. A horrible plane crash in DC and Mayor

(05:20):
Johnston gets crap. Click on that and here are the
headlines you will find within.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Anyone's missing office half of American all the ships and
Clipmas and saying that's going to press class.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
A horrific plane crash killed all aboard. Mayor Mike Johnston
is taking fire from the left. This says the mayor
lays out his plans for this year. Denver Health pauses
what many say wasn't happening Jason Crow, isn't happening about
this scrolling. The first episode of a to z is
live scrolling. Public sector unions are freaking out. This editorial

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on birthright citizenship is flatly wrong. Republicans, please shoot down
these bylow changes tonight scrolling. This is why Trump wants
to purge the federal government. In a nutshell, should we
give old folks a jury duty out? Israel gets eight
Hamas gets one hundred and ten. Trump makes a cool
twenty five million from Meta. A man being tried for
burning a Koran is shot dead. How button boards are

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changing our relationships with dogs from Tierra wants to merge
with Spirit. The Broncos work to protect young skulls working
looking for a romantic restaurant for Valentine's Day, Ilitch is
open mid April. RFK talks freedom in his confirmation hearings.
Y'all Costco has always been a left leaning company. Democrats
who take money from big pharm I hate RFK. The

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TSA baggage check lottery sucks. Those are the headlines on
the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. Okay, the last video
that's on the blog today a roan. I gotta tell
you this, So last week I applying to Puerto Rico.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
So at the new security checkpoint at TIA at Denver
International Airport, which is a delight compared to the old
TSA pre check. I mean I have TSA PreCheck. So
the new security on the web side, well, I paid
for it. You can pay for it too. It's not
like they just gave it to me for nothing.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
No they didn't. I paid for it. I paid for
Global Entry.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
The best investment I've ever made in my life anyway.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
But security is a delight now.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
But now when you go through, you put your suitcase
up on the thing, it goes through the little scanner
and the dude or a woman looks at it, and
then it comes down to the end and then it
sits there as the wheels. There are wheels right ahead
of it, and they're either going to go forward and
your bag has to be checked, which is going to
hold you up and it's a complete pain in the ass,
or the wheels go chook and they tilt over to
the side and your bag comes straight through and you

(07:39):
get to pick it up, and that that moment of
tension that dramatic music needs to play.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
When I saw this, I burst out laughing because that
was kind of what's running through my head, like the
Jeopardy music.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Dude, dude.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
In there right, I'm good, there's no reason why it
should right. Well now wait, why is it going? You
know what kills me though?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Is I because we travel a lot, right, So I
have my bag that I only use for travel, so
the same stuff is in it, right, Like I'm a
power course. I got all in basic travel stuff, so
I never have anything in there that's not something that
I travel with all the time. So when my bag
does arbitrarily get pulled and it has.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Happened, you're concerned.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
No, I'm like, well then did I get mad? I'm like, uh,
that bag and all those contents have been throughlier like
ninety times.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
I mean they randomly choose some right.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, randomly tag you. So I get super mad. I'm like, dude,
what are you doing? But yeah, it is like the
lottery waiting to find out.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
At least there's always one thing I know for sure
that always puts mine over there, and that is when
I Neil prep our breakfast burritos and wrap them in
the tail slu and foil.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
It's like, I know that looks sketchy, go ahead, and
they have to peel it back just a little and
they see it's a burrito.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I'm like, okay, well I am.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I told you when I was when my dad was
After my dad had a stroke and spent fourteen months dying,
I was flying back and forth to Florida, and a
lot of the times I would go to publics and
get a bunch of public subs on the way back,
so I'd have a carry on bag that was full
of nothing but public subs. And the guy at TSA
pre checking Jacksonville floor is like, why you got a
bag full of public subs? And I was like, well,
we don't have publics in Colorado. He's like, oh, go

(09:09):
right on through.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
That was the extent of the questioning.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
It's like, right, go right on.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
For the first time, I think ever, on my Southwest
app I had to actually drop down to see all
my upcoming trips. So I'm wondering, I got three. I
wonder if I can go one for three, two for three,
or three for three or zero for three, and how
many times I'm gonna get the bag going to the
other side. We'll see, see, We'll see. I'm also for
alf battery maximum one of three. I'll take one, you know,

(09:35):
leave me alone on the Super Bowl trip.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
But there you go.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, well you have all that tech stuff too, so
it's yeah, you got all kinds of text stuff, you know,
all my way. Mandy Children's Hospital in war is number
ten in the nation for providing minor sex change operations.
It was in the national news today, except they're not
doing it anymore. They stopped doing it sometime ago, so
there you go. They're also helping kids be cancer. They're

(09:58):
also helping kids with signific illnesses. Right now, they're full
up of kids with RSB because and this is kind
of interesting. My tour guide said, look, you know these
kids that are four to six right now, they were
born during COVID and they have not been exposed to
any of these germs. So when they get it, it's
horrible because their body has not been incrementally exposed to germs,

(10:22):
and that's how our immune system is supposed to work.
This is why I hate hand sanitizer.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Now when I'm in the hospital, I absolutely use hand
sanitizer because they're asking me to. They're like, here, you know,
I'm a great I don't want to get anybody else sick.
But in my daily life, I wash my hands with
soap and water.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
There is really one you need to think about what,
and that is every single time I out of the
gas station after touching that pump, oh, the hand sanitizer.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I mean, you go home and you wash your hands anyway, right,
because they smell like gas when you get in the car.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Though, all that time, that travel time, what else are
you touching? Are you touching your face and not even
thinking about it?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
I work really hard not to touch my face with
my hands period. During COVID, I got pretty good at it,
and also compulsively washing my hands whenever I get home.
First thing I do is wash my hands when I
leave here. The last thing I do before I leave
this building is wash my hands. Every day after a
gas pump, you're touching everything in your car hundred.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Germs.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
That's one of those things where chances of you getting
something off of that gas pump other than neurovirus. Right,
somebody could have some neurovirus on their hands and then
you get it on yours and then you put it
in your mouth. You can get norovirus, but you're not
gonna get a respiratory illness. Think, guy, you've got to
have a lot pink eye, like the pink eye bandit
going around talking a bunch of a bunch of gas pumps.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
I'm sure you don't think the hundreds of not thousands
of people that touch that gas pump you touch that day,
one of them doesn't that pink eye.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Do you use hand sanitizer every time you touch money?
They hand clerk?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
I tried to, Now, I tried to.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I gotta tell you, I just think the whole hand
sanitizer thing is a racket.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I really do. I'm healthy, So yeah, it works.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
A Rod brings burritos on a plane, that's gross. It's
not for that, not for not for the trip, for
every morning of the trip. His breakfast for New Orleans
l O L germs grow on unleaded, says this texter.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, anyway, premium you won't have to use, well, premium
you're spending so much time mashing your teeth because of
the cost.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Don't ask me how I know.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
There's no follow up questions, Amanda, You're absolutely right, went
through New tsa.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Pre at den It was a pleasure.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
It is.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It is A, And if you don't check bags, you
can just get dropped off right up there at curb.
If you already have.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Your your you know your I'm not leaving bags outside ever.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
If you don't check bags, if you're carrying your luggage on,
you just go right through security right there. You don't
even have to go to the counters if you already
have your boarding pass if you're not checking a bag.
How much of TSA pre check um When I did it,
I'm thirty for five years, But now you can do
global entry and TSA pre check for one price. That

(12:57):
is much cheaper. Also five years, I believe so. Yes,
I just ripped my TSA, but I got the Global
entry after so I'm not positive. But I think it
is for five years anyway, and it's pretty much an
automatic reup unless you've broken the law. No, it's worth it.
It's worth every single penny.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
No it's not.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
It's very affordable. It's just a pain in the ass
to get it. I don't think it as much of
a pain in the ass as it was when I
got it. I got in twenty seventeen. Because you have
to make an appointment with the tsa office at the airport,
and you used like for global entry, you used to.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Have to do two appointments.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
But now once you fill out the application, the next
time you come in the country, you can just walk
through the Global Entry and they'll finish the processing of
your Global entry on your first visit.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Back to the United States. It's awesome, got it so good,
So so.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Good, Mandy and the dude I use wet ones handywipes
my car by the millions do that. It's just the
office of touching shopping carts and gas pumps and door handles.
You know what, I figure, you know, eat some dirt,
It'll be fine. Let's talk about this plane crash because
I've got many of you may not know that Hawaian
Yogi is a woman of many talents and for years

(14:07):
she was a pilot in the Air Force. Her husband
is still a commercial pilot. And I'm having her come
out at twelve thirty not to drill down and get
to the bottom of this horrific plane collision. And I
want to be yes, the plane crashed, Yes it did,
but this isn't a situation where a plane lost power

(14:28):
or there was a pilot error. This was an in
air collision that is so freakishly rare worldwide, not just
in the United States, worldwide. This event is so freakishly
rare that I really don't want people to think that
they should never get on an airplane again, because flying

(14:50):
is still safer than driving by a long shot, and
this was such a freak accident. But Crystal has some
insight about that particular airport, and I've had this conversation
with pilots before that Reagan Airport because of where it's
situated in Washington, d C. And the kind of light
pollution around the airport and the traffic around the airport,

(15:12):
it is the worst possible place to put an airport.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
But they won't change it. They won't shut it because the.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Members of Congress like to fly into Reagan because it
takes like no time at all to get to Capitol Hill. Now,
if you've ever flown into Dulles, you know that is
not the case. Dulles is as far away from Washington,
DC as DIA is from Denver. It's a hall right
Reagan's right in the middle of it. So we're going
to talk to her about sort of the different things

(15:42):
pilots have to deal with but this is a horrific tragedy.
It's terrible. I don't know if you guys heard Donald
Trump's comments, and I thought the first part of his
comments were pitch perfect, expressing sympathy, determining that they would
absolutely to the bottom of what happened. Although unless they
can find the black boxes and there's something there, I

(16:04):
don't know if they're going to really figure this out.
But that being said, the first part was absolutely pitch perfect.
And then he trumped it out. He was like, oh
that ain't ol Bama really really near drive controllers. I mean,
it was just like, you can't just stop. It was
the RNC speech all over again.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
It's like, give me the first.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Twenty three minutes of the RNC speech all day long.
The hour and twenty minutes after that, you can keep
and the president. I'm listening to it. Ross was playing
it on his show and I'm listening to it, and
I was like, man, he's really getting this right. He's
showing the right amount of compassion, the right amount of sympathy.
You really felt like, you know, he was genuinely sad

(16:44):
for these families. And then it went into a political
speech of nonsense Mandy, I got Global Entry and tsa
pre check for one hundred bucks for five years, waited
for six months for the Homeland security interview for Global Entry.
Still worth it? So yeah, yeah, Mandy. Have you ever
been legit scared on a plane when you were a
flight attendant or even a passenger?

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
I would lie if I said I was not. We
flew into Hartford, Connecticut one time and the pilots told
us that it was a blizzard and that we had
to sit down like thirty five minutes before we landed,
And he said it was gonna be really bad and
they didn't know if they were going to be able
to land in Hartford because of the blizzard, but we

(17:27):
were going to try and land because it was our
last flight of the night. And we landed, and I
swear to you, I think we hit the top of
trees when we when we came into that airport, we
came in sideways. The wingtip had to have been inches
from the runway. Scared the Bejesus out of me, but
we landed. We were the last flight they let in.

(17:47):
The airport was completely out of power when we landed.
They had to like we had to like walk down
the stairs in this sideways snowstorm. And then the next
morning I got up and got back on the same
plane and flew out of there. No problem to get
back on it. You do not wash your money, Texter,
you do not wash your money.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
That is a no stop it.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
You're a money launderer.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Well, well was that intentional money launderer?

Speaker 3 (18:14):
I just made that launderer?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. Try that is yeah, that
is good.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
When we get back the Winiogi is going to put
her pilot hat on. She spent a long time in
the Air Force as a pilot, and we're going to
talk about some of the issues that these pilots may
have faced in this plane crash. Right after this, it
appears that a black Hawk helicopter collided with a commuter
jet that was flying from which daw Kansas to Washington, DC.
And just to get a better handle on this, I.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Was like, who can I call? Who can I call?

Speaker 7 (18:45):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, the win Yogi's a pilot. Many of you may
not know that. Crystal off On so spent a long
time being a pilot in the Air Force, and so
I was like, you know what win Yogi put on
your pilot hat, and let's have a chat about what
could have had in what might have happened, and what
it's like to fly into Reagan in the first place.
Hi Crystal, Hi, how are you?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
So for the audience's sake, they know you love wine,
they know you love yoga. What did you fly in
the Air Force?

Speaker 6 (19:15):
I slew that KC one thirty five was my major
weapons system. I also flew a beach Jet four hundred,
which is also Mitsubishi thirty which is more of a
leer jet type, so I'm certified in that. And I
also flew the T thirty seven, which was a training
acrobatic aircraft, so I was certified in that. And then

(19:35):
I also flew little pedal jumpers before I ever went
to pilot training, courtesy of the Air Force.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
So you've you've flown a few planes, and have you
ever flown in and out of Reagan in DC?

Speaker 6 (19:47):
I haven't. You have to have a special certification to
go into Reagan. So usually when we were flying, whether
it was DB's or we had something that was taking
us in that general area, we normally were flying for
the Air Force into Andrews Airport space simply because you know,
if there's an air force base nearby, you tend to

(20:08):
avoid the civilians, just because you know the Stilian airports
are going to be so much more busy, busier, So
if ever you can, you try to avoid that. I
have flown through that airspace because I have flown into
Andrews which is in Maryland, and I have flown in
Atlanta's airspace, in Denver's airspace, in Dallas Fort Works airspace.

(20:32):
I've flown all over the world in various ico for
the International Airspace Controlling Agency kind of like the International FAA.
So I have flown in a number of places where
it's very Mexico City is a place where a wild
kind of way to approach in just simply because of

(20:53):
the way the navigational aids are set up and the
busyness of the airport itself.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Now I know that you and your husband, who is
also a pilot, have been looking at this since last
night and really sort of analyzing this, and it appears
and all of this is speculative, right, we don't really
know exactly what went wrong, but it appears that a
commuter jet was coming into land on an airport that
it did or a runway that wasn't the primary runway

(21:21):
at Reagan because it was a smaller aircraft. And at
the same time, a black Hawk was doing a training flight.
And we do know that the black Hawk pilot at
one point said I'm watching this plane. But now there's
speculation that he was watching a plane that was taking
off instead of a plane coming in. And from your perspective,

(21:43):
knowing what little we know, now, what are you guys
kind of spitballing or guessing could have gone wrong here?

Speaker 6 (21:52):
So in this particular case, and if you've watched the video,
you can kind of see the bright lights of an
aircraft that was departing off of the runway. And so
at that point, if the CRJ so that commuter aircraft,
if it is turning onto its final approach, it very
well and again I don't know, but it very well

(22:15):
could have had its belly based off of its turn
profile towards that helicopter. And if you've ever watched airplanes
landing at night, you notice that most of the lights
are towards the front and down towards the runway as
you're approaching the runway, so that you can get that
visual of the runway. At nighttime flying, your depth perception

(22:37):
is very different. Anyone who has ever gone hiking in
the woods knows you think you need to lift your
foot so high, and maybe it's not high enough because
that depth perception is really lacking in nighttime conditions. So
you typically don't necessarily have those glaring lights on the
belly of an aircraft. So that helicopter pilot very well

(22:58):
may have been looking across seeing the other aircraft on departure,
and that's when they did not take any evasive actions
to avoid the aircraft that was actually kind of turning
into their flight path.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
I mean, it's possible that he just didn't even see it,
isn't it.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
It is very possible. The other thing that happens is
when you're we aircraft have it's called traffic collision and
avoidant system. The acronym is tea calf. Even when I
was flying twenty five years ago, we had teacasts and
that is a warning system that and I've had a

(23:38):
near mid air as well, and that's what they're called
is Midair's when I had maybe jets, we were out
over the Atlantic, very dark, and you're not necessarily lighting
up like you have just your normal light sign because
you're not in a landing configuration. And so I thankfully

(23:59):
had a lot of speed because I was on my
way home back to Charleston to go land for the night.
We were done, and I had a lot of smash.
That speed built up so that when I got my
collision avoidance, I was able to climb immediately, and it
will kind of tell you to do that. So I
was able to lead off and get a massive amount
of airspace between us and the two fighters that were

(24:22):
converging on us. And when as soon as I called in,
one of the things that I did as I went
ahead and reported it and I had them pull the
tape so that they could figure out where the break
in the sequence event first began. Just to make sure
that we weren't doing anything wrong as well. And so
that's what I cautioned everybody as we're kind of going

(24:43):
through this. I was also a sight safety officer, so
I was trained in how to go through mishaps by
the Air Force. We have to wait to figure out
all of these details. Since it was a nighttime incident,
the visual that we get on video are not going
to be obvious as evidence and you know, flying when

(25:07):
we were talking about this this morning. When you are
flying at night, one of the things in a cockpit
is the listeners aren't aware is you don't have lights
on because the more light that your eyes are exposed
to the closer your pupils will dilate down. Versus when
we keep when you're flying at night, you use red lights,

(25:28):
so because you want your pupils fully dilated, when you're
going into an environment like Washington, DC at that time
of the night where everything is lit up and you
have all this light pollution happening, it is very difficult
to necessarily see everything that might be happening outside of
your cockpit because your eyes are now inundated with all

(25:51):
of this light, and it can be a difficult transition
if perhaps the helicopter pilots were not facing something super
bright and then they're turning into that direction where you
have all of this hight solution. Who knows what was
happening in their cockpit, And we're really not going to
know until they figure out airspeed, and they're going to
get all the information from the black box altitude, the

(26:14):
recordings that they were having, the conversations that they were
making with Tower people, the tapes from Tower itself and
goes through a process of interviewing everybody involved, and so
I know there's a lot of information out there. I
would just caution everybody just to let Ntspeed do it.
It's AJOB. Let the Army do its investigation, and then

(26:37):
hopefully we will be able to avoid this in the future.
I personally think Reagan should have been shut down a
long time ago, and maybe this will finally be the
impetus to shut it down.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I've talked to so many pilots who say, when you
ask them what airlines do? What I always ask pilots
when I was a flighter tanner like, what what airports
do you love flying into? What airports do you hate
flying out of? And Reagan was always on the list
because there was too much that could go wrong and
if you were going to be targeted by a terrorist,
chances are you're going to becoming out of Reagan. That

(27:07):
was their thinking back in the nineties, right, you know
they're doing that somebody else on the text line. Multiple
people have asked us why was that black Hall helicopter
anywhere in the vicinity of the landing taking takeoff area
of Reagan. I think this stuff happens all the time.
I mean, we have multiple aircraft flying around in different
airspaces all the time, don't we.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
You do.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
And quite honestly, if they felt that they were given
clearance to perhaps cross that approach end of that runway,
if they thought that they were going to be coming
in to maybe land after the aircraft that they thought
they had a visual on. Again, I have no idea
because I have not heard that particular interaction with tower.

(27:52):
But you have that all the time, where you're expected
to stagger out. I've had to do it myself flying
in Saudi Arabia, where or the aircraft ahead of me
had to go around because there was an aircraft on
the runway. And even though she was cleared to land,
our tech data said the casey went thirty five could
not land with another aircraft on the runway because we

(28:13):
don't have reverse thrusters and we have no ability to avoid.
We take up the whole runway the wingtips, and so
she went around and I had to offset with her
and get visual with her just to watch everything happening.
And there is in such a condensed airspace, especially with
Regan for the listeners that may not be aware, but

(28:34):
you've probably heard it repeated by all these experts going
on TV. You have limited corridors because of the capital
that you have to avoid flying that life. Flying up
the Potomac is one of that. You know, that usual
kind of approach that you're going to come into. You'll
shoot your approach to the main runway and if you're

(28:55):
a smaller aircraft, circle around to be adjoining runway through
three that they're talking about where this incident occurred. And
so you have to understand that not only is it
extremely busy, there's a lot of chatter going on in
the radios, and typically when you're flying, you have the
pilot in command, the person who is physically flying, and

(29:17):
then they're co pilot or first office. Navigators run in
the checklist. It's more and more with GPS, navigators are
kind of a thing of the path. Your navigator is satellites,
but you're having somebody else talk on their radios, get
the clearances, DI dial in which heading they want you

(29:38):
to take, making sure that you know you're clear to land,
all of these types of things while they're running their
landing checklist, making sure that the gear is down and
they're configured. And when you are in a landing configuration
or a takeoff configuration, these are the two most critical
i e. Dangerous phases of flight because you are slow
and you are low to the ground, there's not a

(30:00):
lot of room to maneuver, and you have all of
this stuff hanging out that creates drag to allow us
to land and until you clean it up. When you're
on takeoff, if you've ever taken off on a plane,
and you're kind of climbing out slowly, then you hear
the landing gear come up, the flats come up, and
all of a sudden, you're really climbing. It's because the
plane is now configured to fly. When you have landing

(30:21):
gear down and flaps extended, the aircraft is configure to
go to the ground. So it's even if they heard
so I mentioned teacaps. As you get closer to the grounds,
you don't want the ground to be creating noise. You're
surrounded at an airport with all of these other aircraft
that are squawking their codes to identify themselves, their ISS

(30:44):
codes that atc uses to track air traffic. So you
don't want both going off because you are close to
other aircraft and it's a distraction when you're in a
critical base flight like.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Landing or takeoffs.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
So right, that doesn't that traffic avoidance does not go off.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Okay, that is the wine Yogi who also has quite
a few years as an Air Force piloniter her belt.
Give it us a little insight. I gotta take a break.
I'll talk to you later, Crystal.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Okay, with you tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Okay, bye, A Rod, what can people find on the
first episode of A to Z with Anthony and Zach?
First of all, if you've ever wanted to know what
they look like but a big Bata boom, there you go.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, I've got a link on the blog.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Today to it. So what is the first episode of
A to Z with A Rod and Zach?

Speaker 5 (31:27):
First of all, if you're impatient and you only want
to get a taste and don't want the full thing,
we have a little just a two minute clip right
there from the podcast, which is a little social video
short if you will, asking apparently the blasphemous question here
in Broncos Country, should we actually hate the Chiefs? Because
Zach says absolutely, I say no, I respect them. I
like to watch them play Pat Mahomek and favorite player

(31:49):
to watch. Don't hate, just respect, appreciate the greatness. Apparently
I'm crazy, but we dive more into that in the
full length version, which you can find on the free
to use an awesome iHeartRadio app. You can even set
A and a Z as a preset.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Now there you go. Made me kind of that. That
gave me a little hell up.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I said myself, as my first preset is that weird
on my iHeart Radio app.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
I was like, oh, the Mandy Connell Show is my
first preset on the iHeart Radio app.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Me and zach a to z we cover it all
across the gambit of sports and nonsense and fun, so
probably weekly on the pod, social shorts across all our
social channels at KAOI Colorado.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
So enjoy.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Wait, Okay, we're gonna take a very quick time out.
When we get back, we have let's see here, Rich
Gougenheim coming up. There's been some big things happening from
the Trump administration when it comes to protecting children from
permanent medical changes that cannot be reversed. We're going to
talk to Rich about that and another push this year

(32:49):
to limit girls' sports to girls here in Colorado. That's
coming up next.

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send your complaints there after you watch the new A
to Z podcast that is going on right now. Joining
me in the studio in a gorgeous shade of purple.
Today it is Rich Googenheim with gays against groomers.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
I mean, are you tired of.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
All the winning yet, Rich, because it feels like well,
and I'm just gonna say this, when I met you
several years ago now, and you were so passionate about
protecting children, You were so passionate about about this cause.
And at the time, it just felt like it was
an uphill battle that you were never going to win.
And now President Donald Trump has done two things in

(34:09):
the past week one is that he has banned medical
gender firming care for children, and that is huge. I
mean that is going to prevent children from being permanently
harmed and hopefully will allow them to seek therapy that
they could use to become more comfortable with their own
gender and just be who they were going to be. Right,

(34:29):
what is the second thing he just did.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
He just banned the teaching of gender ideology in schools.
He's going to withhold federal funding from schools who are
teaching gender ideology.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
And this, to me is the greatest thing ever because
the numbers of young people that are now identifying as
either LGBTQ or trans in our schools is absurd. It
is absurd. And the reason they're doing this Ask a
kid who goes to school, just asking a kid, Hey,
you're a white boy at school. You are an oppressor

(35:00):
according to all of the literature that's going around your
schools right now. How do you not become an oppressor?
Will you become gay or you become trans? Because it's
trendy and cool, there's flags celebrating it in every classroom.
Rich that is all going to be bannedil.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Yeah, and that's great news.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
Unfortunately, if you happen to be in the Durango nine
Arts school district, though, I think that that school board
is going to have to buckle down and be prepared
to face some federal action if you're in jeff Coo
school board.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
In fact, you know what was really ironic?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Man?

Speaker 4 (35:28):
You' speaking of.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Jeff Co I was at the capital the other day.
I was just there for talk to someone on lunch,
and we'll get into that in a minute. But the
president of the jeff Co School Board, and everybody knows
who that youmale person is with her crazy colored hair,
was there to testify against Senate Bill three. How does

(35:54):
she have time to go to the Capitol and talk
about protecting children from gun violence when she has an
epidemic of child sex predators in her school district.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yes, but no, no, there's nothing to see there. I
mean that they don't need to talk about that. They
do not need to talk about that. I mean, I
always find it interesting when you get those comments, and
it just happened to me recently on X where I
made a comment about sexual predators because obviously sexual predators
are an issue, and somebody said, well, you need to
include the church. I'm like, oh, no, if we want

(36:23):
to make it, we need to include public schools.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
No, they are always trying to It's classic straw man
argument and they're trying to deflect. And Okay, I mean,
if you want me to go into the churches, I'll
be more than happy to go into the churches because
look at all of these LGBT, i QA, LMNOP, m
AP plus churches that are now harboring predators, right, And
so it's the open and affirming churches that are we're

(36:46):
actually seeing the harm done.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
And so these open and.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
Affirming churches have opened the door to become a shelter
for the people who want access to children. And no,
you want me to go after the church's final I'm
more than willing to go after the church. And I
have no problem with religion. I have no problem with churches.
Believe what you want to believe, but leave the kids alone.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Let me ask you this, because people, maybe this is
the first time they've heard you on the show as
a gay man.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Why did you start getting involved in this? What brought
you to this mission? That is such an interesting question,
and it is a long journey. COVID.

Speaker 7 (37:21):
It really was during COVID, and after COVID and the
center on Colfax that does One Colorado and all of
these organizations in Denver were doing some of this semi
virtual Pride stuff and I was really glad to get
back out, and I went over to their semi virtual
Pride parade slash lit'll get together here in Denver, and
I just noticed a seismic shift. It was no longer

(37:46):
it was no longer adults.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
You know.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
For the longest time, I would go to Pride and
it was a weekend right fast. It wasn't a whole month.
And I just couldn't understand why were these all teenagers
and why were they all children?

Speaker 4 (38:00):
And what were they identifying as right?

Speaker 7 (38:04):
And I didn't I couldn't understand this tqia twos plus alphabet.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
None of us can, none of us can rich, and
it's designed to be that way. I think I follow
some people on X. I follow some gay people on
X who are very much LGB and would be very
happy to separate completely from the TQ.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
I was on a NEWSMAC show with Charles Moran, who
is the president of log Cabin Republicans, and even on
that show, I said LOG cabin Republicans needs to drop
the TQIA plus, there is no reason for us to
associate as LGB with the T. And this is conservative
stuff that this is a conservative group, you know, honestly.

Speaker 9 (38:50):
The T.

Speaker 7 (38:51):
By them adopting the T and bringing in the T,
they have put a weight around their neck. And I
have no problem with the T. We have D transitioner.
If you're an adult and you want to do whatever
you want to do to your body and live your life,
live your life is the key. What I have a
problem with is that this stuff isn't about living your life.
This is about compelling my speech. This is about forcing

(39:13):
me to go along with your ideology. This is about
invading women's spaces. And I said the other day when
I was in Wyoming, I said, this is about men
who approximate women poorly, appropriate their rights, and colonize their spaces.
This is about mutilating and sterilizing children. This is about
indoctrinating children in school and teaching them that there's something

(39:33):
wrong with them and the only way to be fixed
is to sterilize and mutilate yourself. And there's nothing affirming
about that. There's nothing inclusive about that. And this is
what I had a problem with with that led me
to this mission was I was going to these organizations
and I'm like, okay, so what does any of this
have to do with me being gay? How are these
organizations even representing me as a gay man?

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Well, they're not.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
And you know why, because as a gay man, I
had the same freedom and liberties as all of the
straight people in this country. I can get married, I
can serve in the military. I can be missedly miserably
in love and lose half my stuff in divorce, including
my house and my dog. It's I have the same
freedom in liberties as everybody else. And these nonprofits are

(40:15):
were a multi billion dollar industry. They weren't about to
turn off the lights, lock the door, hang up the mission,
accomplished mine.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
And go home. They quickly pivoted to gender ideology. And
that is what this is.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
This is gender identity, this is gender expression. And I
still to this date, don't know what queer is Queer.
They literally tell you it means whatever it means to the.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Person, means that someone is straight. But they want to
be part of the cool kids, so they say that
they're queer even though they only date heterosexually.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Exactly, and so queer is nothing.

Speaker 7 (40:43):
But it's a word that means anything, means nothing, right,
it's just an appropriation.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
I agree with you on all of this stuff. And
I say this as a super straight person who was
a theater major. So some of my favorite people in
the world are the gays, right, I mean, they're just
It has been really challenge for me because from the
outside looking in, the only association that the T has
with the LGB is that a vast majority especially of

(41:10):
young trans women, who boys who think that they are
female are just gay boys exactly.

Speaker 7 (41:15):
And so that's where it comes back to this being
a modern day form of conversion therapy, where these feminine
boys are these even the masculine girls, and you know,
you've got some girls who are just very man yeah,
And there's absolutely nothing.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
There's no wrong way to be see a boy or
a girl.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
That is that is the biggest If I could just
if I could just stress that to all of these
middle school kids and all of these high school kids.
You say, I don't feel like a girl, Well, what
does a girl feel like? A girl feels like whatever
you feel like.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
There isn't some prescribed box that you must check. Oh,
you must play with dolls, you must do this.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
It's not that way.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
And I don't understand why we have allowed ourselves to
get to a point where people genuinely believe there's only
one way to be a man or one way to
be a woman.

Speaker 7 (41:59):
That's because gender ideology all it does is reinforce regressive,
anti gay, anti women's gender stereotypes.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Ultimately, the whole trans woman in sports issue, to me,
has come down to a very simple question, and that is,
why are the feelings of these men matter than all
of the feelings of all of the women.

Speaker 7 (42:20):
And that's an excellent point because if you look at
just what's going on right now over in Denver at
the high school, EPs took a girl's restroom away from them. Yeah,
and they are telling girls, under this guise of being
inclusive and tolerant, you have to give up your space
to men who feel to the males who feel a
certain kind of way. If this was the other way around,

(42:43):
you've never seen men being told that they have to
give up their space to the women, and.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
If they do, there's all hell to pay.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Yeah, it's always tradition.

Speaker 7 (42:49):
Men who are appropriating the women's rights and colonizing the
women's spaces.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
I don't understand feminists who go along with this. I mean,
I would call myself somewhat of a turf. I don't
identify as a feminist, but if I was, I would
be a trans exclusive radical feminist to do these very
same things. So when women's organizations support it, I get
very confused. Because now I'm going to use this as
an example. One of the nominees in the Oscars is

(43:17):
the trans woman who starred in Amelia Perez, which is
a very interesting film that I haven't made it. I
thought I downloaded to watch on the film on the flight.
I only downloaded the first third of it. I'm going
to go back and watch the other two thirds. But
this trans woman has now been nominated in the Best Actress.
So this is taking away award and recognition from women.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Yes, that's what this comes down to.

Speaker 7 (43:40):
This is men taking away recognition and awards from women.
I'm wondering if Holly to achieve that recognition to begin with.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I'm wondering if Hollywood changes as tuned trans women. Oh no, gosh,
California is we can't even have a conversation.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Now, let's talk about what.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
You're doing next, because we've now got the president of
the United States. And by the way, to the Texter
who point out this, the schools would just need to
wait out Trump's term in office and then the next
president will undo it all, absolutely right, unless Congress takes action.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Well, and that's actually right. So this is last night.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
I got to have dinner with an amazing person, gen
Z with x x Y Athletics. We're launching a collaborative
product line next week. So we were talking about this
and she was talking about how far it feels like
we've come, and I said, yeah, And there's a lot
of people in that room and very great people that
I had a great time last night. But I said,

(44:37):
this is the practice game, yeah, because what we have
to do is we have to make sure that this
is codified and ultimately these issues, we can codify them
at the federal level, the gender firming caravan. I think
what President Trump did is also going to strengthen our
hand with the Sucrematty case at the Supreme Court.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
But we what is the Screamatti case at the Supreme Court.

Speaker 7 (44:59):
Because I'm not to pretend I know exactly a Tennessee
law that bands under affirming care. Oh okay, so if
that's upheld, then that means that and if they heard
that case, they've already heard if they just have.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
An issue in opinion.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
I think the issue and opinion in June, which is
going to be fantastic for Pride months. Oh God, yeah,
I'm going to start bottling up the trans tears of joy.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
God help him. As a souvenir.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Rich your work gear has made you very unpopular in
the community that you are a part of, and that
is the gay community.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Is that getting any better?

Speaker 1 (45:29):
You know?

Speaker 7 (45:29):
I have people all the time come to me and say, hey,
I'm gay and I completely agree with what you say,
and I'm like, then you need to speak out and
say something. But I'll tell you the other day, I
had a Democrat legislator reach out to me because he
wanted some help getting one of his bills through and
he needed help from Republicans. And he's like, oh, I'll
be honest with you, you just don't have a lot
of credibility among the Democrats and the legislature. And I'm like, well,

(45:50):
that's fine, because I'm not really looking for credibility from
an institution that I consider morally and ethically bankrupt.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Anyway, god Rich, really don't hold back up.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
I'm definitely not sugarcoating it.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Okay, So, last last election cycle, will you guys gather
signatures to get a bill on the ballot that would
have protected women's sports for women in Colorado? And that
was your first time trying to do a ballot initiative?

Speaker 4 (46:18):
What did you learn?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Let's start with that first.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
My gosh, what did I learned?

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Well, the first of all, the Secretary of State's office
is really corrupt, No you don't say so.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
They like to play games.

Speaker 7 (46:30):
And there's also no there's no transparency and there's no accountability.
So trying to do anything about it, it was an upward,
uphill battle. So it takes a lot of time, it
takes a massive effort to do it, and let's be honest,
it takes money, and it takes volunteers.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yep. And this was our first time, and so we
were building the plane as we were flying it.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Maybe got the best analogy to g Yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:55):
We so we were putting together this team of volunteers
and it was all grassroots. So we got roughly eighty
thousand signatures in eighty days because it went through challenges after.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
You know, it was challenged by people like Mark Gruskin.

Speaker 7 (47:09):
If you've ever read the Blueprint for Colorado, I've had
the pleasure of meeting him.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
So and a lot of out of state money.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
We had the Rose Foundation and other organizations from out
of Oregon, in fact, donate close.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
To a quarter million dollars to defeat us.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
There's a lot of out of state money, so dark
money from our state coming in secretly funding one Colorado
who's buying Mark Gruskin to try and defeat these issues.
They're bringing in big bucks, big money, big names, and
it's this little old us.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
What I learned is we brought in some moms with
their daughters to.

Speaker 7 (47:44):
One of those committee here the title Board, to one
of those meetings, and that changed the tide for us,
and a lot of people get really oh. Teresa Conley,
was the chair of the title Board, was extremely unhappy
with us when we did that, Like she was actually yelling,
she was so mad at us. But this is an
open meeting, this is the people's process. That's why it

(48:04):
is called the citizens initiative process, and it is in
the state constitution for a reason, because we the people
have the right to petition the government and the governed
are the people. We give our consent to the government
government to govern. So we got to realize that they
represent us. They are our servants, they are not our leaders, right,

(48:25):
and so we did that.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
We got challenged.

Speaker 7 (48:28):
We had to take it all the way to the
State Supreme Court, where we won. But that held it
up and the top the cloud was.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Taking your energy off of getting that organizationals system put together.
So you're doing this money, Yeah, you're doing this again.
When what what is this next go round going to
look like?

Speaker 7 (48:44):
Going to start it in February, We're going to start
filing the paperwork. So the process entails of us going
over to the capital and working with the Office of
Legislative Legal Services to draft it. It's already drafted, It
already went through the Supreme Court. It's already been approved
by the Supreme Court. We're using the same language, exact,
same perfect so the title board can't say that there's
any problem with it because it's already been said by

(49:04):
the Supreme Court.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Yeah, it's fine. So we're going to take it back.

Speaker 7 (49:07):
We're going to run it again and this time, we've
got more volunteers in place, and hopefully donors will come forward,
because I really believe that with the full six months
to get this stuff get the signatures that we need
with curing, we'll need about two hundred thousand signatures. I
know we're going to do it, and we're going to
get it on and then the next step is once
we get it onto the to the ballot and it's

(49:28):
granted title and it's secured its place campaigning, Yeah, because
we know that all of this dark money from out
of state is going to come in and try and
defeat it, and they're going to label it as anti trends.
But you know something, people have woken up to this,
and the New York Times did a pull a couple
of months ago, back in November, and even sixty three
percent of Democrats said that men don't belong in sports.

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So this isn't a bipartist, this isn't a left versus
right part issue. Right, this is very much Americans across
the board believe this is wrong, and.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
So it's fundamentally unfair. It is, and Americans may have
a lot of faults, but if we can make something
more fair, we're going to lean in that direction consistently.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
And you know, one of the things I just want
to say, when are we gonna add if you could
see that sixty three percent of Democrats say that men
don't belong in women's sports. Until people from across the
political spectrum are willing to speak up and fight for
the protection of sex based rights, we're going to continue
to see sex based discrimination and it's going to happen
under the guise of inclusivity and equality. Do Democrats need

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to stand up? And if you're just a regular voter,
you cannot let the machine talk for you anymore. Right,
if you're a woman voter and you're thinking that it's
totally fine for these men to come and appropriate your rights.
Use your bathrooms, use your locker rooms, go like use
your dressing rooms, us your dressing rooms, go to the
be in.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Your prisons with you.

Speaker 7 (50:48):
I'm going to just I just want you to take
a look at the website. Turf is aslur dot com.
Teer f is a slur. These men are men who
already have a mental health problem, are hopped up on hormone,
have the strength of the men, and actually have rage issues.
You can see what they just did in the state legislature.
I believe it was Indiana or someplace back in the

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Midwest last week they shut the system down. These are men, men,
the husband's, the fathers. I just want to talk to
you for a second. Are these the type of people
you want using the restroom with your wife and your daughter?
And if you don't want that happening, you got to
get up off the couch. You got to get to
the capitol, and you got to start talking to your

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state representatives and your school boards and protecting the women
in your life because these people, these trans people, are
violent and they are dangerous.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
I'm at a time, but when you get this started
in February, you're going to come back on the show,
and I'm sure they're we're going to get because last time,
when you started this, you were on the show fairly
and I don't even think you had like an organizational
structure the first time you were on the show.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
I got that now. We got it now.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
So because I had a lot of people say, how
can I get petitions? How can I volunteer to go
collect signature?

Speaker 7 (51:58):
So we're going to be ready for that February and
go to protect kids Colorado their website and check it out.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Stay up to date. We're going to have our first
meeting on Monday.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Protect Kids Colorado dot com or org. I think it's
dot com. Okay, I'll find out and I'll put it
on the blog. All right, Rich, good to see you again.
And you know, these are things that are really important
to me. Not because I have a single thing against
any trans woman.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
I really don't.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
I don't have a single thing against you. But what
I do have is something against people who would have
used that to harm me or my child, and I
just have to stop. That's that's what we're doing, Rich Googenheim,
with gays against groomers. Thanks for all you do. It's
I can't even believe the arc that we have seen
since the first time I met you. We're just getting started,
all right. We will be back after this. When we

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get back, we're going to talk for a minute about
I actually, and I know you guys are going to
be shocked.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
I actually feel kind of bad for Mayor Mike Johnston
right now.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
I'll tell you why when we get back after this.
My heart goes out to Mayor Mike Johnson. Why so,
last night I saw this headline in the Denver Gazette,
Progressive activists give Denver mayor d on protecting the cities
most vulnerable. Now, the reason I feel bad for the
mayor is that, even though I think the mayor has

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made a lot of bad decisions, I would never say
that he doesn't think he's doing the right thing to
solve really difficult problems. I might think he's wrong, you
might think he's wrong, but the man's been like throwing
everything against the wall trying to solve some of the
biggest problems that we have here in Denver. He was
elected by promising to end homelessness in his first term,

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which I think was a really dumb thing to promise,
but you know, it's aspirational. And since then he has
spent gobs and gobs and gobs of money on two things,
homelessness and a flood of illegal immigrants who made their
way here from Venezuela because of our sanctuary city policies.

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So imagined what must have been very dismaying to the
governor to find out their representatives from the Denver Task
Force to reimagine policing and public safety. They want to
defund the police. The Latino United Neighbors Association and House
Keys Action Network Denver outside his door. That raided the

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city's performance on a variety of indicators including public safety,
housing and homelessness, economic opportunity in city governance, and he
came up with a big fat D on the report card. Now,
that's actually pretty generous, because the report cards that I'm
looking at right now, the Latino United Neighborhoods Association gave
him straight fs across the board.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Oh yeah, Hand was.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Not quite as malicious, but they're mad about a couple
of things. Specifically, Hand the Housing Organization said, Yeah, Denver
City Council passed to build with band sweeps of homeless
encampments if the temperatures blow thirty two degrees, and the
mayor vetoed it as he should. Now, I'd like to

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ask the people in HAND, if the temperatures blow thirty
two degrees, wouldn't that be the best time to get
people into shelter somewhere else. The problem is that people
keep turning down the shelter. This is what they've seen Aura,
and one of the reasons that Aurora has basically outlawed
any kind of urban camping, and they're not given notice

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before they're sweeping encampments and they're not providing shelter. They're
just basically telling people you can't do this anymore. Because
what the mayor has done all the money that we've
spent to bring in urban outdoorsmen and put them in
tiny homes or old apartments or I mean, excuse me,
or old hotels. Do you know what's happened to the
numbers of homeless in Denver?

Speaker 4 (55:50):
They've gone up dramatically.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
And all of these people that from all these different
left wing organizations they're supposed to be on the mayor's side.
You would think that after spending millions and millions and
millions of dollars on homeless people and the illegal immigrants,
they would have some I don't know, something good to
say about his performance E for effort. Maybe I don't know,

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but I read this and I thought, man, he must
really feel betrayed. Now, what's funny is the Latino United
Neighborhoods Association stamped across their report card refuse to meet
with Luna in quarter four. Well, he's refused to meet
with me, now, I mean whatever, this is. The reason

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I bring this up is not so you you know,
write a sympathy card to the mayor. The reason I
bring this up is because this proves something that conservatives
have known for the longest time, and that is it
doesn't matter what you do, they will just move the
goalposts when you do it. And this has been done

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over and over and over and over again. You think
you're solving a problem, and you think you're solving a problem.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
In the way that you want they want you to
solve it.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
I mean, Mayor Mike Johnson has spent millions of dollars
taking homeless people off the streets and putting them in
hotels where all of their needs are met. They have food,
they have shelter, they have showers, and they've not done
very well at getting those people into permanent, permanent housing.
But it's not good enough for these people. They don't
care about that because they just want more money. They

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want more money, they want to defund the police, they
want to do all these idiotic things that don't work,
and now they're mad at the mayor that he's not
doing them fast enough. If I were the mayor, I'd
be like, you know what, you guys are right, I
suck at this, So I'm going to do everything the
opposite way of how I'm doing it now. Instead of
giving people housing when they're in the depths of their addiction,

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we're going to get them shelter and then get them
treatment and then work to get them housing. That's what
we're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
Hand.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
We're not going to make it easier for drug addicts
to live on the streets.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
We're not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
I mean, this kind of stuff is so stupid, but maybe,
you know, you'd think maybe the mayor would learn that
you cannot please the people in these organizations. Hardcore progressive
organizations will never be happy because they're made up of
the most miserable, unhappy people you've ever met in your
entire existence. They're incapable of being happy. And the fact

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that they refuse to give him any credit for any
of this stuff.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Wow, just wow, you guys. This is why I I
don't ever want to be a left winger. I feel
like you have to go.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Through life just being unhappy and sad and mad, and
everybody says, Manda, you're mad on the show all the time.
And I do get mad about stuff, I really do,
but in my everyday life, I am extremely happy. I'm
mad about big issues, and I talk about them on
the show because I'm hoping that I can, you know,
gent of enough inch or inspire people to participate and
take care of the big problem.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Right, But as a general rule, I'm incredibly happy.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Do you know how many people I have screamed at
because of their political views in my lifetime?

Speaker 4 (59:13):
None? Zero, And yet.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
People on the left seem to love that, absolutely love it.
A friend of mine was talking about the fact that
she lost a client because of her political views. And
what's funny is, I've known this person for years and
years and years and we don't ever talk about politics.
She doesn't ever talk about politics, but in one passing

(59:39):
conversation she mentioned that she voted for Trump, and this
one was like, Oh, can't do that, can't do that.
I don't know, and maybe I do, and I just
don't know what happened. But I don't know any people
on the right that have cut off people on the left.
But I know a lot of people on the left
who have cut off people on the right. Like, which
team do you want to be on? Which? Which movement

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do you want to be part of? A movement of
people who want to let you live your life, leave
you alone to lead it and just be whoever you
want to be, which is honestly how I view a
vast majority of people in the Republican Party. There are
those people that would like to control certain aspects of
your life.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
But there's not the as much anger and just foul
mood situations on the right as there seems to be
on the left. And it's proven by this delightful all
f report card that Mayor Mike Johnston got from his
own team. By the way, the Mayor has come out

(01:00:47):
and has list a A has given out a list
of his goals for twenty twenty five, and I don't
hate all of them. Some of them actually show that
he's had a little bit of I don't know if
the growth is the right word, but he's obviously paying

(01:01:08):
attention to what is working and what is not. So
I'm gonna call that growth. So I'll give you some
of these when we get back. We'll go over him
and I'll share with you what the Mayor wants to
do and what I think is actually a really good idea.
After this, I've got to share some of these text
messages on the Common Spirit Health text line Mandy, why
doesn't the mayor come on your show anymore? I have

(01:01:29):
no idea. I've just given up. I mean, I just
don't even care. To be perfectly frank, I don't care
anymore if the mayor ever darkens my doorstep again. Not
that he ever could bother to come into the studio.
I mean, the first interview he did with us, he
was at subway ordering a sandwich, just to give you
an idea of where we fall on the mayor's priorities.
So I don't really care if he comes on the

(01:01:50):
show anymore, Mandy. I have cut people off on the left.
I decided I don't need to keep company with people
who vote to take the money I earned and redistribute
it to others, or who to vote to restrict my
speech or take my defenses or hate me in my views,
I don't have any interest in people who don't make
decisions based on reality. So in that sense, I can

(01:02:12):
certainly relate to the leftists doing the same, but I
don't make a big production about it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
I just let them go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
If they want to talk, I'm here, but I don't
make any effort with them anymore. Am I cutting off
my nose? Despite my face. Maybe, but I've been a
lot happier not having to deal with constant screeching, So
I consider to win that from gamer golf. I got
to tell you my left wing friends, they don't screech
at me. And my very best friend is a left leaner,
and we just don't really talk about politics. If we do,

(01:02:40):
we talk about areas of commonality where we can agree, like,
for instance, she sent me a text and said, I
agree with not doing medical interags on children, but why
can't trans people serve in the military, like you know,
she asked those questions. If I had people screeching at me,
then there's no doubt they would be out of my
life for sure. And I'm glad they're doing a benefit

(01:03:01):
for the tragedy in LA. But where's the benefit concert
for North Carolina? You guys, this is stuck in my
crawl as well. And I really appreciate I Hurt Media
teaming up with the Dream Foundation and you can donate there,
but we didn't do anything for the people in North Carolina,
and that doesn't set right with me. Of course, we

(01:03:22):
know why LA is getting a big benefit concert because
that's where all these celebrities live. But to your point, Texter,
I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
It shapped my hide.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Did you guys see this story and I should have
grabbed it this morning. I saw it last night and
I didn't get it, and I should have put it
on the blog today. There's a community of Amish people
that took it upon themselves to go to North Carolina
and build like three hundred tiny homes and they.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Did it in like two weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Because the government isn't doing crap for the people in
North Carolina. The Biden administration's malfeasance there has been epic.
You want to talk about weapons the government. We already
know that people from FEMA were telling people if they
get a Trump sign in their yard, don't don't bother
asking them if they need help. This is why I

(01:04:11):
agree with President Donald Trump that FEMA nationally should be
disbanded or at least rained in and only serve the
purpose of coordinating activities between states if there is a
natural disaster that affects multiple states at one time, like
the hurricane did in North Carolina and South Carolina, well

(01:04:32):
North Carolina mostly in parts of Georgia. Yeah, I was
annoyed by that as well. But again they didn't ask me,
So there you go, Mandy. I have multiple creatives in
my industry make posts about don't follow my business if
you were on the right, it's unbelievable photography, so artsy world,
I guess, unbelievable watching people be so dividing from the left.

(01:04:53):
I thought where they were the love everyone team, but
see their love everyone except people they disagree with politically.
So yeah, I thought country music artists did do a
benefit in Nashville. I don't know did Nashville Nashville do
a benefit for hurricane.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Let's see just nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
They were just like here and there. Wait, country's biggest
names playing a benefit.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Where was this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
So country rising a benefit concert to support those in
Texas Florida? Porter, Oh, this is like years ago, and
that's for I don't see anything. There's a lot of
little concerts here on the internet, but I don't know
if there was one big one like this is going
to be United hurricane benefit event recorded in Nashville, so

(01:05:58):
it was televised and did have a lot of country stars.
I sit corrected, but Hollywood sures hec didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Didn't help Mandy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Good news, Corporal Klinger will finally be able to get
out of the service. Oh if only that is a
great throwback joke, texter, well played, very well played. Um,
homelessness is big business, says this texter. So these groups
don't want to see it fixed. When has government actually

(01:06:28):
fixed a problem? If Tom catches Jerry, the cartoon is over.
Same for government. Yep, yep, yep, Mandy. The comment about
always being unhappy and angry as a left leaning person
finally came home to roost. My daughter, who is a
very left wing liberal twenty six years old, unfriended.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Me on Facebook and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Told me she was disappointed in me because I support
Trump As her parent. I hope you certainly look right
back in her little face that you helped create, and said,
if only you knew how disappointed I am in you
for your political views, I just choose to look beyond
them because you're my daughter and I love you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
So Yeah, your.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Politics have Yeah. I think it's interesting that they're only
supposed to be disappointed in us, but it never occurs
to them that that disappointment might go in the other direction.
But if you did your job as a parent right,
you raise your kids to be independent thinkers, and sometimes

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independent thinkers come to different conclusions and that has.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
To be okay, or you're just going to be miserable.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
We'll be back in a moment. I have so much
stuff on the blog it's not even funny, and we're
going to jump into a bunch of it right after this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
You guys, I just saw this on theex dot com.
Our very own Senator Michael Bennett has entered the check
when it comes to the confirmation hearings of Tulci Gabbert
to be the Director of National Intelligence. Now, if you
want to know how unseerious the Democrats are in these hearings,

(01:08:30):
I want you to listen to the following. Ay, Rod,
give me my audio real quick. Like, I'm a little
bit sorry about that. That was a background that was
not I don't know what that was. Anyway, you'll hear
Michael Bennett ask Tulci Gabbert a question and then she
will begin to answer. And just listen to what happens next.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
The chairman of this committee, bang on the way.

Speaker 8 (01:08:55):
Do you believe, as the chairman of this committee believes,
as the vast majority of members of our intelligence agencies
believe that Edward Snowden was a trader to the United
States of America.

Speaker 10 (01:09:08):
Senator of Confirmations, social media, it's not a moment to propagate.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Wait, I gotta play this again, because the irony of
him saying this is not a moment of her social
media is absurd because he doesn't let her answer. He
starts to talk, and he just starts talking about how
this is when the robber meets a road. This isn't
a moment for so oh a horse crap. It's one

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hundred percent your moment for social media.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Senator.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
I'll let the I'll let this play out so you
can hear how productive these questions are.

Speaker 8 (01:09:48):
Do you believe, as the chairman of this committee believes,
as the vast majority of members of our intelligence agencies
believe that Edward Snowden was a trader the United States
of America.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
Senator of Confirmacy, this is not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
A moment social media.

Speaker 8 (01:10:10):
It's not a moment to propagate theories, conspiracy theories, or
or or attacks on journalism in the United States. This
is when you need to answer the questions of the
people whose votes you're asking for to be confirmed as
the chief intelligence officer.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Of this nation.

Speaker 8 (01:10:35):
As my colleague said, this is not about you, It's
about the people that serve the intelligence agencies of the
United States. Is Edward snowed In a traitor to the
United States of America? That is not a hard question
to answer when the stakes are this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
High, Senator, is someone who has your answer yes or no?

Speaker 8 (01:11:02):
Is Edward Snowden a traitor to the United States of America?

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
As someone who has to go on yeah in combat,
I understand how critical our national security up here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Okay, so we asked her the question twice and then
immediately interrupts the answer and then tells her he needs
to have the answer. And I'm going to be perfectly honest.
I've thought about the Edward Snowden situation for a long time,
and I recognize that he clearly broke federal law one
hundred percent. But Edward Snowden let us all know that

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the government was spying on us without our knowledge, So
why doesn't he get whistleblower protections? I really vacillate on that.
I really do in my mind, if we're going to
accuse Edward Snowden of treason, then why isn't General Mark
Milly in that same conversation because he called his Chinese
counterpart without President Trump's knowledge and essentially told a Chinese

(01:12:03):
Communist military member that he would keep him informed if
Trump was going to make any moves that they needed
to know about. How is that not treason.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Because that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Is not about protecting the American people. And what Edward
Snowden did, I could argue, was now it's going to
be confirmed. I don't know. The Democrats want to claim
at least one victory from these nomination hearings, and it's
either going to be RFK Junior or Tulci Gabbard that

(01:12:36):
doesn't make it through. Could be either one, could.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Be both RFK Junior.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
I gotta tell you, I was watching Twitter yesterday. I
was not watching because obviously during the show, I can't
watch these confirmation hearings and they're going there's so many
of them going on at the same time. I can't
even go home and watch all of them. It's just
it's a lot that being said RFK yesterday got beaten
about the head and net by a bunch of Democrats
who take in a crapload of money from big pharma.

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Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, they have, They take tons of
money from pharmaceutical companies. I mean, so I don't put
a lot of credence to what they say. But x
dot com was lit up yesterday, and you know who
was lit up? Angry women, Angry liberal women who say

(01:13:27):
things like I've been a Democrat my entire life, but
this is it. I'm done. The way they're treating him
is completely unfair. So this is this is very interesting
to watch the realignment taking place right here. You know,
I'm not anti vaccine, but I am anti having it
shoved down our throats and forced into our bodies. I'm

(01:13:50):
not at all. I think there are valid reasons to
ask questions about why we now have to give children
so many vaccines. Why we give a newborn baby a
hepatitis BVAX for a sexually or needle transmitted disease. Do
you realize that if you have a baby in a hospital,
like the first thing they do is give them that job.
The first thing you do to a newborn baby is

(01:14:11):
attack their immune system. I mean, in what world does
that make sense? And don't even get me started on
the Garda Sool vaccine. The Gardesso vaccine has a lot
of problems. I know multiple young women that face significant
issues from that vaccine, and yet the lobby for that

(01:14:34):
vaccine is so strong. Why because there's a lot of
money to be made in donations from pharmaceutical companies that
make these vaccines. You know, polio great. I'm super happy
when eradicated that. Super happy. But some of the stuff
we're doing now, it's shoving these things on to kids
and families. We've gone too far. It's like we've taken

(01:14:54):
a good thing and taken it way too far in
my view. So we'll see if our Junior and Tulci
get out. I don't know if they will or not.
Tulsi looks she looks like fire today. She looks so
good it's not even funny.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Poise.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
One of the things I will say about all these
Republican nominees. I watched a bit of Cash Mattel earlier.
They are they have an air of confidence about them
that I don't recall seeing in a lot of other
Republican nominees. They're just not getting sucked into this stupid
back and forth that the Democrats are trying to, you know,

(01:15:30):
do with them, kind of like Michael Bennett, I mean
Michael Bennett asking a question and then she starts to talk,
going aah, just word vomits all over, Like do you
even want to know what she had to say? And
why don't you listen to the answer and then say, great,
but that's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Not the question I am.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
I asked you, which is a completely fair rebuttal but
by just talking over her you don't learn anything. But
these things are so much about posturing and grand standing,
it's not even funny. Speaking of posturing and grand standing,
I told you guys a couple of days ago a
rod prepare. In the next segment, bring out the dead horse,

(01:16:05):
bring it out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Alone.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
The dead horse, of course, being begging the Republican Party
to not not make changes tonight at this meeting that
are going to destroy the party going forward. I know
this because even our four Republican members of Congress thought

(01:16:30):
it was important enough to write a letter to Colorado Republicans.
I'm going to share it with you next. This one
just made me burst out laughing Adam Schiff's voice is
the leading cause of vaginal joyness made me laugh out loud.
So yeah, I just thought i'd share.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
That with you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Uh, Okay, the dead horse is out and let the
flogging begin, because tonight there is a meeting called by
current GOP Chairman Dave Williams where he is trying to
change the bylaws to cement his power, strip away the
grassroots power and even the voting power of elected Republicans

(01:17:05):
in Colorado. And I want to share with you just
a little bit. I'm not going to read all of
it because it's two pages and it's singles based, but
this is a subject line United Conservative Opposition to propose
Colorado GOP by Law amendments. This was signed by Representative
Gave Evans, Representative Jeff Crank, Representative Jeff Hurd, and Representative

(01:17:27):
Lauren Bobert are four members of Congress. They say this
as Colorado's for Republican members of Congress, we write to
express are united an unequivocal opposition for the proposed by
law amendments currently under consideration by the Colorado Republican Party.
As a party, we should not be taking votes to
radically change our rules while under a lame duck administration.

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But additionally, these changes threatened to undermine our ability as
a party to focus on the issues that matter most
to the people of Colorado and to advance a bull
conservative agenda. The proposed amendments appear to centralize power in
the hands of a few, sidelining the grassroots members who
are the backbone of the Colorado Republican Party. This top
down approach risks alienating the very activists and voters who

(01:18:15):
drive our success and who work tirelessly to elect strong
conservatives to office. As Republicans, we believe in empowering individuals,
not consolidating control among a SELECTQW Chairman Dave Williams's divisive
actions are distracting Colorado Republicans from the critical work of
delivering for the people of Colorado and supporting President Trump's

(01:18:36):
conservative agenda. Instead of fostering unity and strengthening our position,
these bylaw changes threaten to fracture our party at a
time when we should be focused on securing America's borders,
repealing harmful policies imposed by the Biden administration, unleashing Colorado's
energy resources to drive rebuilding our nation. The proposed changes

(01:18:58):
are a distraction from these goals, and hang on with
sid oh, come on, trying to get to where I
can read this without interference, and now it will not
let me.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
But hang on one second, you guys, can we.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
All agree that two step notification is like a scourge
that needs to be stopped.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Let me do it this way, going out in another direction.
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Our success as a party blah blah blah, and then
I'm skipping of that. Under Chairman Dave Williams, the Colorado
GOP has been plagued by infighting and distractions that have
undermined our ability to deliver for the people of Colorado.
Instead of reaching out to successful candidates and their campaigns
after the primary, Chairman Williams refused to repair relationships and

(01:19:50):
offer his support. From subjective endorsements of candidates in primaries
against the traditions of the party to proposing by law
changes that shield leadershi from accountability. His actions have repeatedly
divided the party. This is not the leadership our voters
or activists deserve, and it is not the leadership that
will help Republicans win in Colorado. We urge the Colorado

(01:20:12):
Republican Party to reject these by law amendments and focus
on what matters most, electing strong conservatives, advancing policies that
protect Colorado's values, and supporting the hardworking families in our state.
Now is the time to unite behind a vision of strength, freedom,
and opportunity for all Colorado's And again that was signed
by all of Colorado's congressional Republicans.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Is it going to be enough?

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
I certainly hope.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
I can't imagine that every Republican who is going to
participate in tonight's meeting is so shortsighted and so blinded
by the Dave Williams cult of personality that they don't
understand that tonight is a critical crossroads for the Republican
Party in Colorado, and if they want to have a

(01:20:59):
function party moving forward, they better reject all of these changes,
which are just a naked abuse of power by a
man who has had more than one naked abuse of
power since he's been in charge. So when we get back,
I probably should have done a two minute drill because
I've got you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
Know what, why don't we do a two minute drill?
A too thirty?

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
No, Arod says, no, send your complaints to a Rod
at iHeartMedia dot com, as well as your complaints about
his new podcast, A to Z with a Rod and Zach,
where he says we should love the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
Yeah, he said it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
When we get back, we're going to talk about a
guy who just got murdered for burning a Koran, the
Denver Broncos protecting mines all over Colorado. And we're also
going to talk about the prisoner exchanges in Israel, because Wow,
when you see what Israel gives up and what they
get back, you begin to understand why I want them

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to be able to just execute their war the way
they need to. We'll be back after this. You know,
the ceasefire is holding in Israel between Israel and Gaza.
And most Americans don't realize this, but Israel had to
promise to give back over one thousand Palestinian prisoners. Some
of them had done things you know as innocuous is
murdering a Jewish baby, No big whoop ah. He deserves

(01:22:21):
to get out of jail. He's out. By the way,
the latest release Hamas freeze eight more hostages. Israel will
release one hundred and ten prisoners. And guess what a
lot of the hostages. Hamas is now saying, yeah, they're dead.
You're gonna get their bodies back, but they're dead. We
already have female prisoners talking about the torture that they

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endured at the hands of Hamas. Not surprising at all,
not surprising in the least bit. So just wanted to
bring that to your attention, just so you know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
That's the thing, you know now.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
The move of the Trump administration to get people in
the federal workforce to quit is an interesting one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
I like it a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
And he's offered a buyout for federal employees who want
to resign their positions. If they do sue by February fifth,
they will be paid and keep their benefits until September,
which is a pretty good deal. And you know who's
freaking out. Public sector unions. They are freaking out right

(01:23:28):
now because they know a smaller federal workforce means a
smaller amount of money coming into their cofers, and they're
urging all these federal employees just don't.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
Take the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Don't take the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
I saw a story day before yesterday and I could
not find it today, and I'm super mad about that.
But it was a bunch of federal workers are like,
you know what, We'll come back to the office and
we're just gonna waste a lot of time. We're just
gonna hang out and shit chat and not do any work.
That right there is why I know that these federal
employees will not quit, because, let me explain to you

(01:24:04):
what happens if you don't pull your weight at iHeartMedia,
you get fired straight up. And the notion that somehow
the federal government has no fat in it at all
is ridiculous because private sector employees have been dealing with
layoffs and shrinking workforces and taking on more responsibility for

(01:24:26):
I don't even know how many years now. So I
you know, don't get me wrong, I don't want people
to lose their jobs, right, I don't want people to
be out of work. But the notion that somehow federal
employees are sacred and the federal government would just collapse
around us if we did not have every single person
on the job is ridiculous, and it's almost insulting to

(01:24:49):
our intelligence in the private sector. The other thing that
I've been seeing is people saying, you know, these people,
they don't make a lot of money They do it
because they've got great benefits.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
And all that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
The last study that I saw showed that currently government
employees are almost on par with their private sector cohorts
in most sectors except tech. But then when you add
in their benefits package, they far outstrip what people in
the private sector get. Far outstrip it's not even close.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
So these are.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Really cush jobs. But if you want to know why
Donald Trump is undergoing what some are calling a purge,
let me just share this from the International Business Times.
A Trump official railed against recently leaked emails and yet
another leaked email in which he expressed disappointment that his

(01:25:42):
email was leaked almost immediately. Ed Martin, the interim US
attorney for DC, said, in his leaked email, obtained by CNN, Wow,
what a disappointment to have my email yesterday to all
to you all was leaked almost immediately. Again personally in
consulting and professionally unacceptable. I guess I had learned my

(01:26:04):
lesson fool me once. His email came after a different
email of his was leaked in which he announced the
US Attorney's Office would be conducting an internal review into
how prosecutors made their cases against capital rioters. You want
to know why Trump has to purchase the government? It's
this story and a million others just like it. Their

(01:26:25):
federal employees on Reddit channels talking about how they are
going to actively work against the president and his agenda.
How in the world would you, I mean, if you
if you became boss at your company and you found
out that a third of the employees at your company
were conspiring against you, what would you do? I would

(01:26:46):
fire them all. One hundred percent. I would fire them all.
This is what happened when Chris Lick got to CNN
and he was supposed to reform a CNN and bring
it back to the news organization that it used to
be instead of the partisan hack organization it is now.
And there were way too many employees conspiring against him
that he didn't fire.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
You don't have to fire all of them. You just
have to fire enough to let the rest of them
know that if they keep it up, they can go
to And I think that's what Trump is doing here now.
If I were Ed Martin, this is what I would do.
This is exactly what I would do. I would send
out an email to all of these same employees with
one slight difference in every single email, very subtle, very subtle,

(01:27:33):
and see which email got leaked, and then I would
fire the person that did that, And then I would say,
do I need to do it again? Are we done leaking?
The notion that somehow Donald Trump or any president should
have to put up with a bureaucracy that is actively
working against them is just dumb. We didn't hire or

(01:27:53):
we didn't. Yeah, we hired him, We didn't. We didn't
elect Donald Trump said the bureaucracy. Bureaucracy could stop all
of the things that you do ran on from happening.
We elected him because we liked those ideas. So that
is just one thing to think about. I gotta give
hats off, or rather helmets on to the Denver Broncos.

(01:28:13):
I think this story is like the coolest story that
I've seen around sports in a really, really long time.
The Denver Broncos, in the biggest philanthropic donation they have
ever made, is buying high tech football helmets for all
two hundred and seventy seven high schools in Colorado. This

(01:28:34):
is incredible. The helmets will be custom fit to each
athlete's head based on scans and equipped with special technology
that monitors collisions when they happen. I mean, you guys, Wow,
this is super cool. Over the course of four years,
the Broncos will give out more than fifteen thousand ride

(01:28:55):
El Axiom smart helmets, and you will then get the
schools also get a sideline device and a four year
subscription to Insights Analytic. Now I'm sure that Insights Analytic
is going to be hoovering up all this data coming
from these helmets and using that to make it even
safer football helmet and that is wonderful, absolutely fantastic. So

(01:29:19):
what a great thing for the Broncos to do. And
I just I'm very impressed with that, and I think
it's going to be very good for high school sports
at high school football players, and eventually, hopefully it will
make a difference in making helmets that make our players safer.
Because you know, I'm not saying that knowing what all

(01:29:40):
these hits have done to these football players lessens my
enjoyment of the game. But in a way, and I know,
I realize it's like the mom and me coming out,
but frankly, if I had a son, I would not
let them play football. Period, full stop. Just wouldn't let
them do it. Your brain is the most important party
your entire body, and until they can figure out how

(01:30:02):
to minimize that damage, I just I can't do it.
Like it's gotten harder and harder as I get older
to watch boxing because I got to interview Sugar Ray
Leonard many years ago, and you could tell that he
was not okay from all the blows.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
To the head.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
It just it again. It's the mom and me. I
know there's probably a lot of guys who are like,
that's the game.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
I get it, one hundred percent. I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
I just want it to be as safe as it
can be while still being football. I don't want to
see like flag football, so don't want to watch football
for I don't want to see a game of touch football.
I want to see football, but I also don't want
guys to, you know, end up with a terrible brain
condition because of it. So that is well done by
the Denver Broncos. This story is super interesting to me.

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Sweeten has been dealing with significant issues after a large
influx of immigrants from the Middle East. They have not assimilated.
They have created a lot of problems in Sweden.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
Which was.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
A completely homogeneous society before all of these immigrants came
to Sweden, and by not assimilating, they have created a
division in Sweden that did not belong before. So there
was an Iraqi refugee. His name was Slwyn Momiica. He

(01:31:28):
moved to Sweden I think in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen,
I don't remember, and he immediately became an anti Islam
campaigner and as part of that, he and another man
decided to burn copies of the Qoran, either in public
or in social media broadcast. In twenty twenty three, he

(01:31:49):
was then charged in Sweden for offenses of agitation against
an ethnic or national group, for agitating the Muslim community
by by these outrageous acts. He went through the whole trial,
he was found guilty.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
He was waiting, Oh no, he was waiting for the
trial verdict.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
The trial verdict was due today, and right before he
was going to court to get the verdict of his trial,
he was murdered by five people in the streets of Sweden.
Now one guess on who these people might be. One
guess now. Even though the Swedish government condemns a wave

(01:32:33):
of Kuran burnings in twenty twenty three, it is regarded
as a protective form of speech. But now that they
have arrested five men for murdering this guy, Sweden is saying,
you know, we're investigating and making sure that there isn't
a connection to a foreign power. So what does that
say to you about the men they've arrested. By the way,

(01:32:53):
they have not released their names. Five people have been detained.
This guy's dead.

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
No, do he burned the Koran? Don't burn the book
of the Religion of.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Peace, because you will find out that that moniker doesn't
always stick.

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
Now, a couple more stories that I want to get to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Just one, actually, the Denver Gazette editorial board, I would
say ninety eight percent. I agree with what they say.
We think the same, we have the same belief structure.
I like the editorial board. I think they do a
good job explaining their points and their positions. Until today
the headline let's not fight over birthright citizenship, and they

(01:33:32):
go on to talk about they're a bigger fish to
fry when it comes to immigration, and this fight over
birthright citizenship is just a waste of time. And I say,
horse hockey, birthright citizenship is a magnet to the United
States of America. It brings people here specifically to have children.

(01:33:54):
There's a thing called birth tourism, and Chinese women pay
exorbitant sums of to come over in their seventh month
of pregnancy. They stay here for two minutes to have
a baby, so their baby has American citizenship, and then
they go back to China. Now they're here legally, and
as I've said before, we've already established in the courts
that legal immigrants who come here under the law do

(01:34:19):
have birthright citizenship if their children are born here. That's
already been established by the Supreme Court. What hasn't been
established is whether or not that is extended to people
who entered the country illegally who don't have legal status. Now,
I've said multiple times and I still don't know. I
have no idea how the Supreme Court rule on this,
no clue, Like, I don't know enough about the history.

(01:34:39):
I don't know where they would pull, I don't know
what kind of documentation they would look to for this ruling.
So this could go either way, but I do want
them to rule on it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Do I see them going and saying, well, if your
parents were legal immigrants. When you were born here, you're
not a citizen. I don't see that happening. I really don't.
But what it could do is so from this point forward,
if you're born here and your parents don't have status,
you're not necessarily a citizen. But again, I have no
idea how the Supreme Court ridual on this, no clue,

(01:35:10):
but I think to dismiss the allure of having a
child here to use as the pejorative anchor baby, and
that is a pejorative. I don't think that's a very
nice thing to say. Then you can use that child
to bring over more family members. I mean, it is
not a nothing thing, and it needs to be sorted
out one way.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Or the other.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
So we have some certainty. That's all I'm looking for here, certainty,
which is something.

Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
We don't have now.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Last story of the day before we do, I've got
two stories. Ay, ro do you and Jocelyn go out
on Valentine's Day? What do you do for Valentine's Day?
Do you do something special?

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
We tried to. We're babysitting this year.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Oh well, never mind. I'm just saying this is your
warning right now to make your Valentine's Day reservations. Do
that today. Some really great places like Garden Grace, named
one of the most romantic restaurants in the country, already
up for Valentine's Day. So make those reservations today. I've
got a list. By the way, I have a few
more romantic destinations. And lastly, but not leastly, today, apparently

(01:36:11):
people on the right just found out that Costco is
run by liberals.

Speaker 4 (01:36:18):
You guys have known this forever, but I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
I don't care if Costco's more donates to democrats. I
don't care because you know what Costco does. It provides
me great pricing on the products that I want. It
saves me money every single day. I don't give a
rats ass what the ownership does. I don't give a
rats ass if they keep all of their DEI programming
in place. As long as I still get a great deal,
I get cheap gas, and I could buy a chicken

(01:36:44):
for less than a cost to make it. I just
find it remarkable that everybody gets the vapors about this.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Can we just stop? It's just dumb. It's so dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
I mean, if you ask, like, what are the political
positions of your dry cleaner? How are your pharmacy? What
about your doctor that you love?

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
We don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
We really don't until the media decides to make an
issue out of it. If they want to embrace their
diversity equity inclusion policies, more power to them. As long
as I can buy my avocado oil at.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
A reasonable price.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Now, if their DEI policies make my prices go up,
I will take my business to Sam's Club. That's my prerogative.
But stop with the vapors over who people donate. I
just don't care. I don't even know why it matters anymore. Really, honestly,
Ryan Edwards has entered the studio ladies and germs, h

(01:37:37):
did you see what we just got.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
A women's soccer team. I did see that. That's actually
super cool.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
And not only that, they're like investing, They're going to
build a facility and they're gonna have like they're putting
man's sport kind of money into women's sports for a change.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
It's got a nice man's sport.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
Nobody bats and eye when somebody's like, you know what,
we need another one point for a billion for a
football stadium. Someone says I'm gonna sink a hundred million
in women's sports.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
Kind of a big deal. I think it's great, you know,
I'm very excited about it. I hate soccer.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
I'm never going to one of their games. I go
to a women's hockey game. I would totally do that,
but soccer is not my chance.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
Football is pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
I've been to a couple semi pro There was a
semi pro league like ten years ago, and I didn't
know it's still around. Went to a couple of those.
It's good, but it's not as good as women's rugby.
Like women's rugby, I think we all learned in the
Olympics that women's rugby is badass. It's fun to watch,
it's exciting, it's NonStop the women's football. You're aware that

(01:38:36):
you're watching women's football, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
Like women's rugby.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
You're look, I'm watching rugby. Women's football. You're like, it's
chick football.

Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
It's not quite the same. The tackles are not quite
as vicious. Yeah, you want us tackles exactly. Anyway, let's
do this, Ryan, because now it's time for the most
exciting segment all the radio of its guy, the world
of that what is our dad joke of the day.

Speaker 5 (01:39:04):
What is the coldest letter of the alphabet coldest, coldest coldest?

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
I don't know, b it's between a c oh God,
I have a dad joke.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
I have a dad joke.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
You have had one?

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
No, no, I have a dad joke.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
Somebody texted earlier people of the other one, the other one?

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Which one?

Speaker 4 (01:39:23):
Felipe? No, the one you said earlier today? I don't remember.
Oh no, that wasn't a dad joke. There was just
me being clever.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
This guy sent us a text right and said I
washed my money.

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
I was like, you're a money launderer, money launderer.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
I got another joke from a text that said his
h the the his iguana's tail fell off and it
didn't grow back. So we took him to the doctor
and the doctor said, well, you have reptile dysfunction.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
Thank you. Try the buffet being all week?

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
All right, what's our word of the day.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
Word of the day. It is a noun and it
is in tel what e E and t E l
E c h Y. Does it help you to know
how it's spelt?

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
Yeah, because sometimes I can figure out the roots. Okay,
from all of my sat studying, and let's I have
no idea.

Speaker 7 (01:40:10):
What what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
What in it's a noun intello que an appendage.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
I'm gonna say in intelloquy is something like a code
that you need, like your pin code is an intelloquy.

Speaker 5 (01:40:21):
This is a big brain one, a realization or actuality
as opposed to a potentiality.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
That seems very Yeah, I'll pass on. You're never going
to use that in my whole life anyway. Moving on,
how much meteorite material from space to scientists estimate falls
on Earth each day.

Speaker 4 (01:40:41):
Four pounds seventy four pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
I'm gonna go sixteen pounds forty eight point five I'm sorry,
wait a minute, forty eight point five tons. All these
material is vaporized in Earth as which creates the right
trail that we call shooting stars wowing nice.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Wow, And yet none of it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Has hurled us into an you know, an early like
apocalyptic winter. That's I feel like this might be like
quicksand you know, we worried about it when we were kids,
but it's not as big a deal as.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
Bad reaches the earth?

Speaker 5 (01:41:16):
Is that what it said or just comes into orac
comes to the atmosphere oh, okay, so a lot of
it breaks up falls on the.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Earth each day as well, so most of it busts.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
Word play okay, word play play okay. A recreation area
containing seesaws?

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
It rings? Right? What does a playground?

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Is?

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
All right? A game or a series of games to
decide a championship?

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
What's the playoff?

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
Correct? A radio stations music catalog? Handy?

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Was a playlist?

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Good?

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
No plan? We're just doing this candphrase? Play it my
ear correct?

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
And finally, the reproduction of a sound after it's it's
a playback is correct?

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
Order And you're also a great start.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
I love those word categories. Yeah, So are you guys
gonna talk about this thing that just popped up? What
is it with with NFL people and massage therapy?

Speaker 8 (01:42:10):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
And a kicker?

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
You don't know the kind of juice? You're a kicker?

Speaker 9 (01:42:15):
Well, and again, you know, we're gonna have been albright
On who's been actually tracking the story all week, and
he apparently the Ravens might have known about it all
the way back in like twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
Oh and they didn't say anything. Here's my shock face.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
I know.

Speaker 9 (01:42:29):
Anyway, but that's the thing, like it's bad, like it's
really bad, like it was with Shaun Watson. And there's
also this other element of like, okay, well, you're the
Baltimore Ravens. You're supposed to be a standard here in
the NFL, and here you are allowing this to happen,
and you are allowing this to happen if you're well
aware of it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
So it's not like he murders.

Speaker 4 (01:42:47):
Oh wait, neverbody.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Anyway, I'll be back tomorrow for a Friday show. The
wine Yogi is and we're talking about Valentine's Day treats.
You're not gonna want to miss that one. Keep it
right here for ka Wa Sports