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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Welcome, Local, Welcome to a Friday edition of the show altogether.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Now that's right, what do we have a lot of
stuff to do?
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And as you can tell from that, Anthony Rodriguez back
from his adventures in New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
As they say, how was it?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Huh one of the coolest things I've ever done.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Hey, that's awesome them.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Me, I've covered it all. I've done the finals in
the NBA, I have done the Stanley Cup Final. Done
March madness.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Aren't you afraid you're gonna peak early? You know, if
you haven't done you have not done the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
No, I've not done the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
But that's chef's kiss.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
I have gotten stupid, lucky, lots of hard work to
only just a little over the age of thirty and
having done all that already in my professional career. So
big shout out to Dave Tepper, Jojo Brenda Jeff Johnson,
everyone here at KOA.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I'll make it possible.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Yes, Chevron Colorado of course for helping to make it possible.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
It was amazing.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I just so many awesome interviews, so many fun experiences,
so many different people that I got to chat with.
New Orleans is I mean, honestly, if they always hosted
Super Week in the Super Bowl, I don't think anyone
would ever complain.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
They're just so seasoned at it. It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I know now you got to go to one in Miami.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
That's what I've heard.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Now, keep going back and forth because now they're both
time for hosting it the most times. So I mean
sand Fry next year's got a high bar, high high bar.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
So it was just amazing.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Again, all of our coverage at KAOIE collar had a
lot of awesome videos that have just skyrocketed.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
I think so everyone that have all of our social
media you can see all of the coverage, and a
Rod has done a fantastic job of bringing you right
into the week before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Of course the game is on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, I will not be at a Super Bowl party
because I just want.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
To watch the game and eat snacks. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Let me tell you what's on the blog right now,
because it's a good one. As always, it's a Friday blog.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Look for the headline.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, let's tell me where to go. Go to mandy'sblog
dot com.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
That's gonna bostilt.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Nope, there's no about No. I bought the I bought
that nice.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, I just haven't redirected it, so I'll do that anyway.
Go to mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that
says two seven to twenty five blog how constitutional are
Trump's eos?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Plus a wild hashtag?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Me too?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Lie?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Click on that, and here are the headlines you will
find within.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
I think office half of American all the ships and
clipments of press flute.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Today on the blog, it's an ask Me anything kind
of day. Ay Rod is back and the latest A
to Z pod about the super Bowl is live. Which
of Trump's executive orders will stand when a prosecutor goes rogue?
Why housing first isn't working? See your Regent, Wanda James
hate science? How long will this eviction take? The Colorado
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education blueprint? Congrats to pats certain The King's super strike
is hitting girl scouts hard. The Walmart Foundation funds climate propaganda.
We don't need more early childhood education. These majors will
leave you broke.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
And in debt.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Unemployment claims arising faster in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Warm drinks won't warm you up.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
The NCAA of firms, Trump's order on trans athletes, how
big porn operates least surprising NFL story of the day.
Hollywood is trotting out retreads, Golden retrievers. This is your
weekend in Golden Transportation secretary takes Hillary Clinton out on
X Now Shakespeare gets trigger warnings tgif everybody this is
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another original film I want to see. The Daily Show
takes on reversing DEI, how do we boycott things? Amy
Schumer's coming to red Rocks and thanks for taking care
of this lady. Those are the headlines on the blog
at mandy'sblog dot com. And got a lot of video
on the blog today, some of it very very entertaining.
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You know, I have a story on the blog and it's,
you know, not that surprising. But apparently during the Super
Bowl on Sunday, we are going to see a bunch
of movie commercials right for movies that are coming out
this summer and they're almost all retreads, sequels, reboots, whatever.
There's just no original ideas coming out of Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And I found two.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Movies today that I think both of them will take
me to the theaters because they just look so different. One
of them is The Amateur with Remy and he plays
the CIA analyst whose wife gets murdered, and it's a
vengeance movie and it looks so good because you just
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watch the trailer. I'm like, yep, I'll go to the
theater to see that one. And then there is a
movie coming out that is by the same guy who
did Parasite, which was He's South Korean and the director
is and Parasite was a very interesting film.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
It's one of those films.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
That when I've got done watching it, I was like, huh,
I'm glad I watched that.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't know if I'll ever watch it again, but
I'm glad I watched it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well, he's got a new movie out called Mickey seventeen
that looks insane in.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
The best possible way, and from what I can tell.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's set in the dystopian future and the guy Mickey
decides he's going to sign up as an expendable which
are people that they find creative ways to kill in
the advance of science, and then they reprint them. I
know it sounds but it looks awesome that trailers on
the blog today as well, So I don't know what
else we should be looking out for. I've decided, ay, Ron,
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I'm going back to the movie theater this summer.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It's gonna happen. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Well, you can before you even go there, you can
sit in the comfort of your own home and watch.
Have you watched yet and finished Amelia Perez?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I have not finished it yet. It's frankly, I gotta
tell you this. The last couple of weeks for me,
just personally, for a whole bunch of reasons that don't matter,
have been really incredibly busy, and I don't think I've
sat down to watch anything. And I know that sounds
crazy to people except last Saturday and get on of
my chair. But Chuck was there, and I don't think
you would like Amelia Perez, so I'm probably not gonna
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make him watch the.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Rest of it. So I have not watched.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Boy, it's getting killed right now. The movie is absolutely
getting killed by people who didn't fight it at all.
I felt it compelling enough. I watched the first third
and I thought, and of course, Amelia Perez is an
OSCAR nominated movie. It's nominated for thirteen Oscars, which I
think is way overblown. But it was nominated for thirteen
Oscars for two reasons. Number one, the story is a
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trans focused storyline. Number two, it's in a foreign language.
Number three it stars a trans woman. So that's why
it's up for all these awards.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
I genuinely wonder, though, like the NFL awards that I
think are voted on before, like the playoffs start, when
do the Oscar votes go in, because I wonder if
before the criticism, because honestly, before that all came out,
Mandy that was one hundred percent winning Best Picture A
thousand I've watched.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Half of them.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Yeah, I'm telling you, Amelia Perez was a what one
thousand percent going to win Best Picture. I don't know
now if the votes haven't gone out yet, I don't
know now.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
If it's going on some.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
People are just gonna penalize the trans woman who was
found to say bad things about I don't even know.
I don't even care, I really don't care h to me.
The movie was definitely interesting enough to go back and
watch the last two Thursday.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I just haven't had time.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
It's really oh yeah, really good, really good, Mandy.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
There's some good news breaking. This happened within the past
thirty minutes. The gun band build banning detachable magazines for
gas operated firearms and other among other guns got pushed
back for a second time to next week.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
They don't have enough votes to pass it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Senators are listening to constituents. Some of those senators are
calling an email and constituents back asking why they want
them to vote no. Keep up the work, people, keep
those emails and calls coming.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
We are making a difference that from a Texter Mandy.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's an ask me anything kind of day. By the way,
we have a couple of things coming up. Oh ay, Rod,
real quick, what is on the A to Z podcast about.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
The Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well, first of all, we have a Super Bowl Broncos
champion on the show, Marvin Washington, who won Super Bowl
thirty three with the Broncos, played defensive end. So we
talked to him about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
And then I give a really fast, cool like montage
of all the fun interviews that I was able to
get on Radio Row and all around New Orleans. So
all of that and a whole lot more. Zach can
I break down game predicted that all is on the
pod all.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Right, and you can find that right at mandy'sblog dot com.
Coming up at one o'clock, we're going to talk to
constitutional scholar at UC Berkeley, John Yu about whether or
not all of these executive orders that Trump is issuing
are going to with stand court with review right because
all of them are being sued over right now. So
we'll get his thoughts on that, and then later on
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in the show at two thirty, Sherry Pie from Complete
Colorado dot com is coming up. Remember back when hashtag
me too was really at at its zenith and we
were told hashtag believe all women and I was like, yeah,
not for nothing, women lie about that. We have the
Cuckoo for Cocopuffs story out of the Denver DA's office
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about a fake, you know, accusation of sexual impropriety that
ruined a guy's life for a while there and now
has ended up with a dispartment of the woman who
levied the charges. Sherry Pife has the entire lifetime movie
story coming up at two thirty. It's Craig Cray totally crazy.
Now it doesn't ask me anything kind of day. It's
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Friday five, six, sixth nine. Now I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I uh, I.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Have a splitting headache and I've had it for the
last hour and a half and I'm pretending I don't
have a headache. Fake it till you make it a rod.
So if you got it's fine, lighten the load. That
would be fantastic. Mandy, you've got to talk about paper
straws being banned. I love Trump for going back to
plastic straws. Sorry, environmental wackos. Did he Did he make
(10:35):
a plastic straw? See if Trump executive order up paper
one Google Trump plastic straws? Said the banning paper straws?
Oh wait a minute, did he ban them? I'm looking,
Oh my god, I would love that?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Is there anything more worthless?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Trump promises executive order against straws.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know what, that's hilarious. I mean, you guys, wait
a minute, just to stop the presses for just a second.
The President of the United States is going to take
the time to have someone draw up an executive order
related to something that is universally despised by.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Everyone who uses them. But it's going to take him
two seconds.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's gonna be a nothing thing that a vast majority
of people in the country are going to be like.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
Hell.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Yes, here's the beautiful two sentence statement from Donald Trump himself.
I will be signing an executive order next week ending
the ridiculous Biden push for paper straws which don't work.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Back to plastic. Yes, I mean, we can save the
environment in a million different ways. Back cam you want
of them. Paper straws got to go.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Do you know what I found interesting in the last
time I was on where were we were? We were
somewhere It was a border sto Oh and you know
what we got in Puerto Rico?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
We got plastic bags. You know what else? We got straws.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Did you pay for him?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
No, of course not.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
We paid for them by purchasing something from the store
and they were provided as a.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Convenience for us. What a crazy concept, I know.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And there, did you know that they're an island? Yeah,
they're an island there and they still have paper bags
and straws. Go figure, Go figure anyway anything you want
to know text us today on the common spiritual text
line within reason five six six. And I know, Mandy,
we need to know how is jinks doing jinks? My
dog was hit by a car when I was walking
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her last week. I should have been clear she was
on a leash when the whole thing happened. It happened
very quickly. It was very massive fail on my part
and her part. But she's perfectly fine. She had a
bad abrasion, but now it's completely healed up. She is
a okay and back to her normal obnoxious self. Mandy,
(12:44):
how are they held having a flyover for the Super
Bowl if it's a domed stadium? And I'm not asking
the second question, just saying I don't know. I mean,
I guess they could just have the flyover and then
show it on the screen to the How do they
do flyovers at a dome stadium?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Google that a rod see if there's a.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Thing, Mandy, I'd like to see Trump ban traffic circles too,
Do you guys love a traffic circle? A traffic circle
is so much more efficient than a red light or
a stop sign. It's you just have to learn how
to do it. And obviously we are failing at education.
On the traffic circle. I love a traffic circle.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Just learn. We all got to learn together.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
So apparently, even with it being a dome, they do
the flyover, but it's obviously more so for the entertainment
of being televised to the audience.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
So they're doing it. Yeah, and it looks like still
over the Superdome and.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They'll just have it on big screens inside, so everybody, can,
you know, hoot and holler and carry on.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah, it's for the millions of viewers, not just the
what eighty thousand inside?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, So there you go. Happy Friday, Mandy, wondering. Oops
that updated fast. If you have thoughts on construction prices
skyrocketing doing to the ice arrests on illegal immigrants with
no criminal records, Thanks and have a great weekend. I
have seen conversations, but I have not seen actual numbers yet.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I like, for the aviation nerds, it'll be two Marine
Corps F thirty five bs and four MV twenty two
B tilt rotors. Oh, kyd oky, you mean to fly
over whatever those are?
Speaker 9 (14:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
The O K doo K Mandy.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Six hundred milligrams of advil with a big dose of
caffeine helps my bad ones.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Love your show. I am really allergic to advil. So
unless you want me to.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Sit here and have my face swell up, which is actually.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Kind of entertaining, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'm probably not.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Gonna take the actvill But I appreciate you. I really
do appreciate you. Trump needs to ban zipper merging.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Stop it. You hate speecher.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Have you noticed I have noticed people seem to be
getting better in Colorado with the zipper merge. We've all,
we all worked together, me Kyle Clark on nine News.
We all work to educate people about.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
The zipper merge.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I had a beautiful zipper merge experience yesterday, we all
and you know what as we had as everybody just
zipper merged onto the one lane. I think I could
hear other people in their car singing kumbah yah as
I was singing kumbah ya as well.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I mean, maybe that didn't happen, Maybe it did. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
You don't either, man. Did you just see the conclave?
And if yes, what did you think of the message?
Ending have not seen the conclave yet? Is that one
you've seen?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I have seen very very good. The messaging at the end. Yeah,
it was a bit of a twist and a bit strange,
but uh, you won't mind it. You won't mind it.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
I think it's really good. It's another contender, definitely for
Best Picture. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's probably up there now
that now that I would venture to guess if the
voting hasn't gone out yet, if Amelia Prez is kind
of shoved aside conclave you No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
The film is going to be shoved aside. I think
the best supporting actress is going to be shoved aside.
The film itself. I think is going to be okay.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I don't know, because they're not blaming the.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Film itself for what the actress who plays Amelia Prez
did on our Twitter fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Or is the Academy not shallow?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh no no, no wait, oh a Rod, you are
at Aaron when we talked about this, Okay, you are.
You are forgiven for not knowing this. We talked earlier
in the week about the fact that the Oscar races themselves,
millions of dollars are invested in the actual Oscar races,
So the nominations happen.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
First, there's a big push before the.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Nominations by the various studios and distributors to get their
films nominated. Then once the nominations are out, even more
money is poured into promoting these films for everybody in
Los Angeles. Like if you go to Los Angeles right now,
every billboard is a movie, a television show, whatever, trying
to get pressed for a word season.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Conversely, in addition to the promoting your own piece, you're
gonna do everything you can to destroy the chances of
the other work. The supporting actress stuff. It seems right
now to only be sticking to the supporting actress. So
she's the only one that's been taken out. But will
the rest of the film survive, we don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
But being the face of it, don't think the Academy
would want to distance themselves any more promotion of that film.
Speaker 10 (17:02):
No.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I think that Hollywood has a tendency to believe that
after they've taken their pound of flesh, that's enough. And
so if they take the pound of flesh from the
supporting actress, and then they can give the movie an
award and still get credit for elevating trans storylines without
giving an award to someone who posted some stuff that
was nasty about Muslims.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I think that's really what they're looking to do.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, so I guess I should watch the rest of
the movie after that.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Really good.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Traffic circles quickly show you who's a Texan with a
Colorado license plate.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Okay, that's pretty funny. Pretty funny, Mandy.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I'm not sure you talked about it that it was
so emotional watching Trump sign the executive order banning men
from women's sports. All the girl athletes surrounding Trump with
Trump's big smile was just wonderful. Contrast to that with
Joe Biden trying to smell some girl's hair.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Love our President.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I actually made a snarky comment to that effect on Twitter,
which you should always follow my social media at Mandy Connell.
If you don't follow me on Instagram at the Mandy
Connell or Facebook at Mandy Connell, you may miss some
big announcements that are coming up pretty soon that I'm
only going to be making on social media. Are you
intrigued yet when.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
We can find no? Oh no, no, you already know.
I think, oh, it's nothing. Now, you already know, you know,
you already know. It's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
When we get back, I want to talk about a
column written by David John Heights. I've had him on
the show before. He is a formerly homeless guy who
works as a reporter. He also lives in supportive housing
and lo and behold. You know who is a slum
word The City of Denver. I'll explain when we get back.
The City of Denver has created a whole new bureaucracy
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for holding landlords accountable. The assumption being that landlords are
such scumbags that they won't do the right thing unless
the City of Denver inserts themselves into that relationship. And
in some cases they are right. We already have existing
offices where people can complain about slum lords that do
things like make sure that the water or you know,
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not make sure that water flows through an apartment building.
I mean, you'd think that if a landlord was in
a situation where the water was out for three or
four days, you'd be pretty safe in calling them a
slow lord.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Right well.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
A city owned property that provides permanent supportive housing for
formerly homeless people is Fusion Studios. And from what I
understand from a resident, they've not had water there for
four days now. That resident is David Heights. He's been
on the show before. David was a journalist and then
had some significant mental health issues that left him homeless,
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and he's recovering from that. He is happy to have
supportive housing. But he wrote a column today called opinion
housing first isn't working in my homeless hotel, and I
just want.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
To share part of it with you.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Giving homeless people housing without requiring them to also have
a job, get sober, or obtain mental health treatment is
known as housing first and has become synonymous with liberal thinking.
As a result, housing first policies are under fire by
the right, which wields more political power than it has.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
In many years.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Nonprofits are running scared that President Trump may target housing
first funding.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
But is housing first really so bad?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
As someone who experienced homelessness and now lives in permanent
support of housing in Denver, I must say yes, housing
first really is that bad. Here's why some formerly homeless
people immediately obtain mental health or substance abuse treatment when
they get into housing. Perhaps they had already been in
a mental hospital. These newly sober people don't need to
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be mixing with people straight from encampment smoking fentanyl off foil.
They deserve a chance at success in sobriety. Providing free
housing without requiring work, use, management, or treatment undermines the
value of personal responsibility. When individuals take steps to improve
their own circumstances, it gives them ownership over their lives.
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Humans want to feel like they are working toward something.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Now, there's more to the column, and it's not all bad.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
He gives a lot of credit to I think it's
Catholic charities that manages this for the excellent healthcare.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
That people are provided.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I mean, he talks about the good and the bad,
But this is from a person living in this housing,
and it sort of it sort of dispels.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
The myth that housing is the problem.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Maybe for a fraction of the chronically homeless people in Denver,
it's just a housing problem.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
But the reality is is that most.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
People, especially people who are chronically homeless, they're on the
streets because they have a whole host of issues that
need to be addressed, and a lot of it ends
with addiction. But the addiction is a response to trauma
or significant mental illness, they're self medicating. I mean, there's
all these multifaceted and layered things that go on here,
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But allowing people to continue to wallow in their addiction,
especially around other people who are trying to overcome that addiction,
doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I talked about the podcast.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I watched the other day, Diary of a CEO with
Stephen Martlett on Dopamine in your Brain, and he had
this woman who works on dopamine and addiction and all
these different things.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And when you learn how your brain.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Responds as to dopamine and the release of dopamine that
happens during a dopamine rush when you take drugs or
other stimulants or other things that inspire the release of dopamine,
you realize, as she says, that the inclination to chase
that dopamine rush that you get from drugs is so
strong that it outweighs all rational thought about. You know,
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you're going to lose your family, you're going to lose
your house, You're you're hurting people that you love.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Stuff gets pushed to the side as your brain is
trying to figure out new ways to chase dopamine it's
a fascinating conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
But knowing that it's like.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Okay, we have all of these people who are out
of their minds on the streets.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
They're just out of their minds, and we have housing.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We have these homeless advocates who really believe that just
taking someone who is using drugs and is not connected
to reality the way that you know.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You and I are, and just put him in housing and.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Expect them to wake up the next day and go,
oh my gosh, I have a place to.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Live, I need to get treatment. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
And what they're doing is putting people who are trying
to get sobriety and are trying to maintain sobriety in
close contact.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
With people who are not. David says in this.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Article he was attacked by one of his fellow residents
with a pipe. He was waiting for the elevator and
was attacked by a guy with a pipe who is
now facing prison time.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And this comes down to one thing for me.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
The way I look at this is this, people who
are trying to improve and get better deserve better treatment
than people who are not.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
And it doesn't mean I want the.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
People who are not ready to get better and get treatment,
treated badly, But they certainly don't deserve the same privileges
as people who are trying to choose sobriety, trying to
choose work, trying to become productive members of society, and
we're treating them all the same.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
And it's wrong.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
It's wrong for the people that you're allowing to wallow
in an addiction that will most certainly kill them and
at a bare minimum, is destroying their brains the longer
they remain in that addiction.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
And it's quite another to.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Have people who say, look, I have these issues. I
want treatment and help for my mental health issues. I
want to remain sober, I want to go to work.
Those people deserve all the support in the world, where
the other people deserve a totally different kind of support,
and it doesn't include a free house with no responsibilities.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I was talking to a friend of mine the other day.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You know, we have teenagers about the same age, and
she's experiencing some you know, teenage angst with one of
her kids, and she's sort of in her wits end,
and I said to.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Her, the hardest part about.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Being a parent is watching your kids fail and standing
mind letting them fail, but you know that that failure
is going to provide a way better lesson than anything
that you can say to them.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
And that some some kids have to learn.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
The hard way. That's just the reality of it. And
those kids can exist in the same family with kids
who actually take other people's advice so they don't have
to learn the hard way. But people are all built differently.
I feel the same way, like some people are not
going to get it together until they're faced with hard choices.
It's what Aurora is looking to do. It's what many
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other successful operations where that have helped people get off
drugs and alcohol have done. And I don't think it's
too much to ask that we start treating the people
who are actively engaging and changing their lives and behavior
with a different modicum of respect than we treat people
who just want to remain addicts.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
So yeah, So, anybody who knows anything about the Fusion Studios.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
If you know anybody who get the water turned back
on over there, the residents sure would.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Have appreciated sure, sure would appreciate it. Anyway. Oh and
by the way, if.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
You click through that article on the blog, David gets
paid by the click, so that would help him out
and help him make a little more money. And I
like to support him because he's trying really, really, really hard. Okay,
let's take out. We're going to take a quick time
out here. Mandy really mixed on the amateur ramy is intense,
(26:51):
looks like a Mister Robot movie, but it has Laurence
Fishburn in it. What's the beef with Laurence Fishburn? I
don't care about as politics. By the way, I'll stop
paying attention to Hollywood people's politics because I don't care.
I like Laurence Fishburn. I mean, what's the problem there, Mandy.
We know how you feel about cars for kids. How
(27:12):
do you feel about all those mail enhancement ads all
over iHeartRadio? Does anyone really take their drugs to improve
their quote gains at the gym?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
If you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Testosterone, Testosterone replacement for men as they age is as
incredibly wonderful as hormone replacement for women as we age.
I am a true believer, and it is sometimes about
gains at the gym, but it's also about.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Other stuff too. I mean, let's be real, but we
can't just talk about that.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Mandy could you please explain why it's important to say
taxpayers Bill of Rights and not call it tabor.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I heard you talk about that once.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
It's very important, especially in a state where we have
so many newcomers and people that have just moved here
may not know that TABER stands for the Taxpayer Bill
of Rights.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
And when you put it like that, oh.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
The taxpayer Bill of rights, that's looking out for me,
the taxpayer, it sounds a lot more personal than saying tabor.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Just using the shorthand.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
TABER is designed so people will forget that the entire
bill was based on helping us, the taxpayers, keep more
money back in our pocket and limiting the size and
scale and growth of government. So please refer to it
as the taxpayer Bill of Rights, even if you just
say at least one time, the Taxpayer Bill of Rights,
you know, tabor, just to make sure people never forget
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what that is and why we have it. And it's
gonna stop mattering very very soon. The Democrats have reallocated
our table refunds to other people your salt. This year,
a lot of people are going to be shocked with
their table refund and next year it's going to be
even smaller.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
So be clear about this.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
The government has plenty of our money, plenty of our money,
even though they're all poor mouthing right now, Trust me,
they have plenty of our money. They can make do
with what they've got because not many of us have
made up the twenty percent that we've had to pay
in inflation.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
So times are tight.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Let the government tighten they're about the same way that
we've tightened ours. I think that's fair, absolutely fair. So
remember the other day when we were talking about Oh
A Rod. We got an update, so we talked about
this story. I think did we talk about the story
about the swastika in the window at Congress Park apartments?
Somebody threw a rock through it when you were here.
This all happened this week. I can't remember. There's an
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apartment building at Congress Are at Colfax and Josephine, and
somebody on the second floor apartment put a swastika in
one of the windows. One of the neighbors obliged them
by breaking it out, And then I came on the
show the next day, I'm like, wait a minute, who
owns this apartment complex? We found out we got a
statement from the a property manager, and this guy is
being evicted. So now today the Denver Gazette has the story,
(29:55):
and I want anyone who lives in that area if
you are in that area on a regular basis, and
you know the window that I'm talking about, and you've
seen the swastika, because, by the way, the tenants put
another swastika in another window. So now they're kicking him out.
But I want to know how long this is going
to take in Denver? How long does it take to
kick someone who has gotten your property damage because they
(30:17):
put a swastika in your window? How long does it
take to get that person out? I think it's going
to be a very interesting sort of experiment that will
give people an idea of what Denver has done to landlords.
By the way, the same like if Denver held themselves
to the same standard at Fusion Studios, they would really
be mad right now at themselves. So, yeah, Mandy, I'm
(30:41):
going to so the Carolina is in a week. I
want to try Bojangles Chicken.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Is it worth it? Yeah? One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Bojangles is worth flying to the Carolinas for a period.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Dare I say it's better than their barbecue? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Oh, yeah, I'm firmly in the case AC Barbecue camp.
That's my favorite barbecue. Texas barbecue probably second. But nothing
touches KC Barbecue. It really doesn't, Uh, Mandy. I particularly
like getting a ten ninety nine the other day for
the refund I received from overpaying my taxes last year.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
What what? What is that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, so that is something we're gonna watch
the eviction we got bad in there, oh really quickly.
Because I'm not a sports show, I did want to
say a very, very big congratulations to Pat certain He
is the NFL Defensive Player of the Year. This is
really exciting, only a second Bronco to do it, and
well deserved. You know, this was a year that nobody
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thought the Broncos were gonna do anything, so we definitely
overperformed and defensively, Pat just had an outstanding year. And
I know that the guys on KAA Sports are going
to be talking about it. They may be able to
I don't know if they're going to talk to Pat again.
They usually talked to him during the season. So there
you go, Dear Mandy, ninety days to kick anyone out?
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Are you sure with the new laws that went into
effect last year. My property manager sent out a lengthy
email with all of the changes, and I asked her,
I said, hey, you know, would you come on and
talk about eviction?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
She goes, Oh, I don't handle that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
She has an attorney that handles that, and she's never
had to evict someone.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
In eight years because she's very choosy about who she
let's move in. And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
We'll see what happens. We shall see what happens. Now,
when we get back, we have John Yu He was
a constitutional scholar from the University of California, Berkeley, and
we're going to talk about Trump's executive orders because they're
all being challenged in court as we thought they probably
would be. What stands the best chance of being upheld,
what stands the best chance of being thrown out, and
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exactly how constitutionals ruling by executive order.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
We're going to do all that. Next.
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Bendy Connell, Keith you sad Babe, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Welcome to the second hour of the show.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And over the last eighteen days, President Donald Trump has
issued a flurry of executive orders and lots of questions
being bandied about and will be decided by the courts
on whether or not these executive orders will be allowed
to stand. And joining me now the law professor from
UC Berkeley and also visiting visiting fellow John you with
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the New School of Civic Leadership at the University of
Texas in Austin.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
John, Welcome to the show. First of all, thanks, Amandy,
It's great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I want to start with kind of a macro question
about this, and I've said this often on the show.
I don't like executive order leading leadership because just as
easily as they are written, they can be overturned by
the next president and there's no consistency there. But let's
talk about the overall constitutionality of what Donald Trump is
doing via these executive orders. How much power does the
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president actually have here?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
The presidents have.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
A lot of authority under executive orders.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
I think there's a big difference between for example, a
President Obama and President Biden did with their executive orders,
which I thought a number of them went, I'm too far,
like the DACAP program or not collecting student loans. And
what President Trump is doing here, what President Trump is
doing primarily is about how you run the government, how
you run the executive branch. It's almost like Donald Trump
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is the head human relations officer of the federal government.
And so the law, the very contrab virtual orders that
people are attacking now are things like we're not going
to have DEI initiatives within the federal government anymore, or
we're not going to allow political persecution of our political
enemies using the Justice Department or the FBI. These are
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about restraining the government, about keeping it within bounds and
making sure it runs consistently with the way President Trump,
you know, his agenda and the way he campaigned for office.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Then there's another.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Kind of executive order which I think Trump is using
again causing a lot of controversy, which is Congress gives
a president a lot of power to send issue regulations,
to choose cases to prosecute, and so on, and he's
announcing early on how he wants to use those powers
that Congresses have given presidents for decades and decades. So,
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for example, when President Trump issues an executive order saying
I'm going to prioritize the Justice Department and the FBI
on immigration, on illegal aliens and getting felons out of
the country, he is allowed to do that just the
same way you know, President Obama and President bides it.
I'm not going to prioritize, you know, using federal law
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enforcement to handle illegal aliens. That's those are controversial, but
the president has the constitutional power to do it.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
What are your thoughts on ruling via executive order? I mean,
this is not sustainable in any real way. But does
this embolden in Congress or empower them in some way
to pursue legislation to make these things more permanent in
your view?
Speaker 8 (36:39):
So some of some parts of it, like a lot
of what Trump is doing, are just inherent in there
being a president with an executive branch, and you have
to decide how the executive branch is going to run.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
You're going to have to decide what you want.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
Right, what do you want federal employees to do, how
you want to like again, how you want human hr
to work within the federal government. That's that's just part
of of having an executive branch. Now, what Congress can do,
and this is actually goes well beyond executive orders. What
Congress has to do is take more responsibility for itself
right and issue orders. So here's a common one is
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why does the president like Biden get to go and
say I'm going to make half of Alaska National Park
no drilling for oil in Alaska? Right? That's because Congress
gave the power to the president to create national monuments.
But a president can also take it away. President Trump
can say no, I de memorializing that monument.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
But you're right.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
The real answer should be Congress should pass a law
and it should choose what national monuments we're going.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
To have or not, where we're going to have drilling
for oil or not.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
But the problem is Congress doesn't want to take responsibility
for hard choices, and so instead they just say, we're
going to tell the president, here's all the power you
need to make clean air or clean water. You decided
what pollution should you decide whether we should have electric cars.
That's a real problem, but that's Congress has to do it.
Presidents can't make Congress do their job in a way, and.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Congress has this political incentive say keep.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Voting for me, and I'm going to give all this
power to the president and blame him if you don't
like it.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
I didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I find it ironic.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
And I said this to a friend of mine who
happens to be to the left of center a.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Couple days ago.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I think one of the most interesting things that may
come out of the second Trump presidency is that Congress
might begin to craw back their power, especially if the
Democrats take over any branches of government in the next
election cycle. But it would be ironic if having Trump
be a president who's acted so boldly in this way
ended up with a reallocation of those powers in a
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more proper way. In my opinion, I'm still mad that
Congress gave the power to declare war essentially to the
president back in the Bush administration. I'm still mad about that.
So we've seen this kind of creep for decades now
for the same reason that you just said. So, were
there any executive orders that stuck out to you as
being perhaps less likely to withstand a court challenge.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
You know, just coming to what you said, there is
a difference between the way progressives and conservatives I think
view government and I think what we have now, the
things you don't like about these executive orders and regulations.
That is progressive government. You know, Woodrow Wilson came up
with this, and generally progressive presidents Democrats have expanded this model,
which is Congress should give all its power to the agencies,
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and the agencies should be filled with scientists. We're going
to come up with the best rules, and we don't
want politicians anywhere near them. Doctor Fauci is like the
ultimate you know, this is the poster child for this
model of governing. Conservatives generally want to restore the original Constitution,
which is you go for people in Congress. They should
make the policies, the choices, and then the president just
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carries them out. So in terms of your more immediate question,
what issues are going to have run to trouble in
the court. So one thing is another thing the president
is allowed to do is he's allowed to have a
different view of the Constitution and the courts are Congress.
He's allowed to say, I want to get the Supreme
Court to review, to reconsider earlier cases. And so the
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only way you can do that is by taking a
different position than the Supreme Court. So for example, I
think the one he's going to run into the most
trouble is birthright citizenship. I think you know, President Trump
has said that illegal the children of illegal aliens born
in the United States are not going to be not
automatically citizens. The Supreme Court, there's a precedent called wing
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Wan kim Ark from the late nineteenth century that says, no,
the Fourteenth Amendment says if you're born inside the United States,
you're automatically a citizen. President Trump is certainly allowed to
say I want the Supreme Court to reconsider that and
decide whether they were wrong, and so to cause that
case to get up to Supreme Court. He could say
I'm going to order the government to give not give
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passports to the children of the legal aliens.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
He is certainly allowed to do that. And look, if.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
He said he was going to do this on the campaign,
trill people voted for him. He has democratic support to
try to get the Supreme Court to change his mind.
I don't think the Supreme Court, I don't think Chief
Justice Roberts and the Marine Court is going to vote
for a radical change in that. But other ones, I
think Trump's going to win on that. He's getting attacked
for right now. So for example, ending DEI, ending race
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based affirmative action, that's actually quite in keeping with the
way the Supreme Court's been going right this re Court
in the Harvard case said colleges shouldn't use race when
they make admissions decisions. I think Trump is going to
win on DEI, and he could do more. He could
also say. I think he's going to issue another executive
order soon that says, and anyone who receives money from
the federal government, anybody who's a contractor for the federal government,
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you can't use race either, and skin color either. And
I think the courts will agree with him in the end.
That's not the law right now. So Trump has to
keep pushing on it, and he's using executive orders to
do it.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
So I want to go back to the case that
you mentioned, because I was somewhat familiar with the case,
had never read the opinion, and the question I asked
you off the air that I think other listeners who
may be aware of that case as well is weren't
those people.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
In the country legally.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
So it's mostly as you shared with me off the air,
that the whole interpretation of the concept of legal versus
illegal immigration didn't even exist when that case was hurt.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
Yeah, the person there, wanken Mark, He's born in the
United States to two Chinese parents who are not American citizens.
There's no general federal immigration law in existence at this time,
so they didn't really even have this concept.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Of illegal and legal aliens.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
Instead, there had been a deal with China, and so
we passed something called the Chinese Exclusion Act, which actually
sought to bring immigration to China from China to US to.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Close to zero.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
But it said the people who are here now, they
can stay. So the court when it decides wankkim Ark,
it doesn't actually care about the legal status or not
of his parents. They just say the fourteenth Amendment says,
you're born in the territory of the United States, you're
a citizen automatically.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
And so that's why I you know.
Speaker 8 (43:19):
President Trump can say I disagree, I think your parents
should be citizens. That's why I'm predicting I don't think
he's going to win on that because this wank kim
Arc case has been around, you know, for about one
hundred and forty years now, one hundred and thirty years,
and I don't see this Supreme Court changing its mind,
but I could be wrong. I mean, maybe Trump will win,
and he's certainly titled to try to get the Court
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to reverse course.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I got a question from one of my listeners, and
it sort of goes to what you said before that
President Trump has his version of his interpretation of the Constitution.
Where's the other branches of government may have a different interpretation.
In that case, when you have different viewpoints, is the
Supreme Court the final arbiter or is there a way
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how does that work if everybody has a different view
of an issue.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
Constitutionally, this is a great question, and it goes back
to the founding. We've had this debate for the last
two hundred and thirty years and it's not settled. So
the Supreme Court today will say we have the power
to settle the constitutional questions. Supreme Courts in the past
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have not said that, and presidents and Congresses in the
past have said, no, the sup Re Court doesn't have
the final say I get to interpret the Constitution as
I wish when I carry out my duties. And you
know who most prominently said that, Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln
said the Supreme Court got it wrong in dred Scott.
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I think free blacks are citizens in the United States.
I think I am not returning people to slavery, and
so I disagree with dred Scott. He actually said, this
is funny. He said, you know it's called a Supreme
Court opinion. That means it's just their opinion. So he said,
the only thing I have to do is carry out
who wins and loses. But I as president, I will
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not obey dred Scott, and I think he was right,
and he's not alone. Thomas Jefferson said this. You know,
a Graham lead is Andrew Jackson FDR this. Presidents have
always made the case that Trump is making. Now I
have the right to interpret the costitution too, and maybe
ultimately it depends on the people, because ultimately we have
elections and then we can decide whose interpretation of the
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Costitution we ultimately agree with.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I would ask your thoughts specifically on the offers to
federal employees to basically take a buyout. Right, you can
quit by Thursday, and now it's been extended to Monday
as and you get paid till September. When we out
in the general public who work for large publicly traded
corporations who have seen people be laid off ruthlessly and mercilessly, you.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Know, in the private sector.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Why is that even that seems to me like the
government should have the right to make an offer of
that sort because it's a voluntary exchange. What is the
what are the grounds there that this is being challenged?
Speaker 4 (46:08):
And will will they hold up?
Speaker 8 (46:12):
You know, I have to say, Mannie, this is not
something I'm an expert on. Is you know, the internal
workings of you know, federal employment contracts. But I know
there is a lot of doubt about, uh, whether you know,
whether the government is compared to a company which is
allowed to do what at once? Right as long as
you just make a binding contract. It's not clear whether
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the federal government can keep paying people who aren't working.
Speaker 9 (46:38):
Right, you know that.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
I mean you think about it as a tax you know,
you're a taxpayer.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
I'm a taxpayer.
Speaker 8 (46:43):
Uh, you know, why should I give tax money the
federal government to turn around and pay people who aren't
showing up to work. So that's one problem. And then
the other problem is, you know, if they're really still
federal employees until you know, whatever time they stop, are
they allowed to go work for somebody else generally is
a taxpayer. If I'm being someone's salary, I don't want
them holding two jobs either, So no one. I just
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don't think this has ever been worked out before, because
this is a totally new proposal. But I know those
are going to be the legal issues. Is you know,
working for a government is different than working for their
private point. I wish the government worked like a private employer.
And this is Congress's fault because I think Congress has
placed so many rules and restrictions on what the government
can do that makes it hard for it to work
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efficiently like a company would.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
And I think that's a big part of what we're
seeing now.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
And honestly, I think that President I call it Trump
two point oh this administration is two point oh so
different than one point oh because he learned how intractable
government is, He learns how intractable Washington, d c.
Speaker 8 (47:45):
Is.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
And I actually think this is going to be a
lot of stuff that he is throwing against the wall,
knowing some of it isn't going to stand. But at
least we can begin to shake up the kind of
infrastructure that you're talking about right now that is impossible
to fire regardless of your job performance and all those
horror stories that we've seen, and frankly, I have friends
who work for the federal government that I imagine our
outstanding human beings and employees as well. It'll kind of
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be nice to separate maybe the week from the chaff
on that issue and see how all of that gets
sorted out. Because if the President is not successful in
sort of thinning the herd as they're trying to do
with USAID that organization, I'm concerned that there's not going
to be any way to have significant enough for reforms
that can do something that will make a big enough
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dent in our in our deficit spending.
Speaker 8 (48:35):
Well, the way I would look at it is, I
think President Trump has got to be right, and I
think if the polls I've seen show he has a
large part American people is can Congress force the government
to be inefficient, inefficient, and ineffective just like if President
Trump can as if Congress is saying, okay, build a
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bridge from A to B and spend five hundred million
dollars on it, and what if Trump comes back and says,
we figured out how to build a bridge for three
hundred million dollars. Is does a president have to burn
up two hundred million dollars and waste it? And I
think that's fundamentally the constitutional conflict here is Congress, of
course wants the president to waste money because Congress is
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trying to do favors for people, Yeah, and give out
more money than you need to. And so I think
that's what Trump's real argument is, and I think the
American people behind him is I want I'm not trying
to say I'm not going to spend the money. I'm
not going I'm trying to cancel laws. I'm trying to
say I'm running the government like a business efficiently and
effectively to save money for the American people.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Last question, one of my texters asked, what about Doge?
What about the operation being headed up by Elon Musk
that people on the left are freaking out about right
now because Will he's going after a lot of sacred cows.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
How how is that or is it not constitutional to
do what he's doing?
Speaker 9 (50:01):
Yeah, this is a.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Little bit complicated.
Speaker 8 (50:03):
I don't think right now Doge is violating any laws
because I don't think Elon Musk actually has the power
to order anyone to do anything.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
He's like an advisor.
Speaker 8 (50:15):
And you know, there's nothing that says the president can't say, oh,
I want this person to give me advice on what
to do. And then that person, you know, whoever that is.
Maybe it's the President himself, maybe it's a cabinet secretary.
That person then says, okay, close this office or has
changed this program. So Elon Musk is not shutting down USAID.
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Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, is shutting down Aid.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
I looked up the law.
Speaker 5 (50:40):
The law says.
Speaker 8 (50:41):
Usaid reports to the Secretary of State. Now, Mark Rubio
is allowed to listen to Elon Musk. It just allows
as long he can listen to our radio show right
now and take our advice too. Nothing in the constitution
prevents that. So as long as Doge stays in that
lane of looking at numbers, giving advice to president and
the cabinet. But they carry out the orders, they decide
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what to do, and I don't think it's I don't
think its a constitutional problem.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
He is a law professor at UC Berkeley.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
John Yu, great information, Thank you so much, and I
hope we can do this again in the future.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Nice talking to you. I always happy to come back,
all right, have a great day. That is John Yu
a fascinating stuff. Just I mean the way that.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
A couple of things happening right now out of the
left that are that I think are pretty indicative of
the level of panic that is happening in the Democratic Party.
Number One, they have done a terrible job around finding
an attack point.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
They keep trotting out the old Project twenty twenty five. Guys,
let me just say this one more time.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Project twenty twenty five is a wish list of things
that conservatives have been advocating for for decades, since the
Reagan administration. None of these are pulled out of whole cloth.
None of these are surprising. If you go back and
if you can find any of the audio for my
two thousand and five radio show, you would have heard
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me saying I want someone to dismantle the Department of Education.
You know, I want someone to do these things. But
they haven't been able to congeal around an attack point.
You have some guy filing articles up impeachment that are
going nowhere, and at the same time they're trying to
make you think.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Elon Musk is a Nazi.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
They're trying to make you think that the crash that
occurred is somehow the Department of Transportation under Trump's faut.
As a matter of fact, when we get back, I
got to tell you, I'm pleased to say that Republicans
finally understand what it means and how to fight back effectively.
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And I want to share a text exchange, a text,
a Twitter exchange between Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy and former
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
It is a scorcher when we get.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Back between Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy and washed up
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. It started like this, Sean
Duffy tweets out from his secretary.
Speaker 4 (53:17):
Account, big news. Talk to the Doge team.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
They're going to plug in to help upgrade our aviation system.
Secretary Clinton thought it wise to quote tweet him with this.
They have no relevant experience, most of them aren't old
enough to rent a car, and you're gonna let the
mess with airline safety that's already deteriorated on your watch,
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to which Secretary Sean Duffy responded, Madam's Secretary, with all
due respect, experienced Washington bureaucrats are the reason our nation's
infrastructure is crumbling.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
You need to sit this one out. Not to be dissuaded.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Hillary Clinton comes back with US Airlines had gone sixteen
years without fatal crashes, then Magna fired the FAA chief,
gutted the Aviation Security Advisory Committee, and threatened air traffic
controllers with layoffs.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Now there have been two fatal crashes. Hope you're unvented.
Twenty two year olds fixed things fast.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
But Secretary Sean Duffy responds, I know you're lashing out
because DOGE is uncovering your family's obscene grifting during USAID,
but I won't let you lie and distort facts. The
FAA administrator announced he resigned over a month before Trump
took office, and the air traffic controllers were always exempt
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from Trump's civil service buyouts. The previous administration shamelessly use
DOT or us DOT as a slush fund for the
Green New scam, throwing away money and resources on wasteful
environmental and social justice projects rather than update our nation's
antiquated air traffic control systems and other critical infrastructure. I'm
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returning this department to its mission of safety by using
innovative technology and transportation and infrastructure.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
Your team had its chance and failed.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
We're moving on without you because the American people want
us to make America's transportation system great again.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
And yes, we're bringing the twenty two year olds with us.
You guys.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Oh that was hot, you know. And I jokingly say that.
I mean, I'm okay, I'm half joking. I'm joking a
little bit. But the reason I am joking about it
is because for a long long time, Republicans never fought back,
and this is how I like to see people fight back.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
There was no name calling there.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
He did point out that our family's grift had been exposed,
which is true, so we got that going, but he
didn't say anything that was just a personal attack.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
Just a true attack about the fact.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
That her family's been just grabbing money from the federal
government at every opportunity.
Speaker 4 (56:10):
So I just thought I would share that with you
because I liked it. Here's a sad story that I'm
kind of bummed out about.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
You know, the things that your mom used to tell
you when you were little to make you feel better,
and then you find out later that they're just complete fabrications,
that your mom just was throwing stuff against the wall.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
And see if it's six kind of thing. A friend
of mine, a friend of mine told me that.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
Her mom had this special sleep serum that when she
was really, really tired, but she couldn't go to sleep.
When she was little, her mom would come in and
she put a little of the sleep serum on her
pillow and then it would help her go to sleep.
And then when she's like fourteen, she couldn't sleep, and
she asked her mom, you know, mom, can you give
me some of the sleep serum? And her mom's like,
it was just perfume, you idiot, It was just perfume.
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Will you ever have your mom When it's cold outside,
your mom will be like, oh, have some hot chocolate,
it'll warm you up.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
Or when you get a little older, have some coffee,
it'll warm you up. And we actually buy into that.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
You know, when you're at a really cold event, you
get that cup of coffee and you're holding it in
your hands, you're drinking it, and you're like, ooh, this
will warm me up.
Speaker 5 (57:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
In University of Colorado, professor has ruined My childhood Doctor
Nathan Morris. He teaches human physiology at the University of Colorado, Colorado,
Springs decided to run an intricate study testing how body
temperatures respond to hot liquids. The answer is, he says,
will depend on the situation you're in. But most of
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the time, no, they don't warm you up. If you're
outside on a cold day, water based drinks or soups
will stop the symptoms of cold, but not actually raise
your body temperature. He said, you drink hot water, your
shivering reduces, your metabolic rate reduces, but your core temperature
isn't affected. Only our core temperature rarely changes.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
He said.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
The warm liquids may bump up your temperature a little
if you drink them before you go outside and put
your body under stress. But the old adage, the old adage. Yeah, Mandy,
did you see the earlier text when he told her
to sit this one out?
Speaker 4 (58:18):
I read that one too.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
Mandy stood up and clapped at Sean's posted response. Yes, indeed,
that's why I shared it with you. I knew you
guys would enjoy it as much as I did. It's
just nice to see people standing up and saying no,
you're wrong, and here's why, and the facts are on
our side. That's the other thing that's been happening. And
I started this conversation in the last hour, but I'm
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going to finish the thought now. The Democratic Party is
in such disarray that they're finding it difficult to attack
the policy issues, except for, of course, the shuddering of usaid.
You know, they land or rush out to have a
press conferences about that. They haven't had a press conference
(59:02):
about a lot of stuff, but they had a press
conference about that, right, I mean, they rushed out to
make sure that they knew that you weren't happy about that.
Speaker 5 (59:12):
But the sort of.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
Vile personal attacks against the people that are doing this
are a little bit shocking. I don't know why I
should be used to this ready for it. I mean,
the reality is, and I thought about this yesterday, was
that people are angry that Elon Mudge, Elon Musk, and
these egghead kids, these crazy computer programmers are exposing all
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of this really indefensible spending at a time when we
are all facing higher prices. Everything is more expensive. People
are struggling to keep their heads above water, and then
they find out that the federal government is sending all
of this money to do these garbage programs, and yet
the Democrats are trying to get us to believe that
the people telling us how badly we're being ripped off
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by our own government.
Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
It's the government's not the problem.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
It's the people telling us about the government that are
the problem. And by the way, they've now doxed or
exposed the names of all of these kids that are
part of DOJE. If you go to certain reddit subreddits,
you're going to see people urging that they be killed.
They're getting death threats. Think about that for a second.
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Who is so threatened by the exposure of these programs
that a vast majority of Americans are looking at and going,
I'm sorry, what are we spending money on? What is
a scandal in Washington, DC is being applauded throughout the
United States of America. We're tired of taking the hit
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right the American people. We're tired of being the ones
told we need to sacrifice. We were told during COVID
if we didn't sacrifice by staying home, we were going
to be killing grandma. But at the same time, certain
corporations were given preferential treatment, whether they are vaccine makers
or they are large stores. When mom and pop shops
were put out of business and the American people are
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looking at this and going, it's about time that somebody
looked out for me and looked out for mine and
told these politicians that they can't do this anymore. And
the fact that Chuck Schumer is standing there defending all
of this indefensible spending and they don't even realize that
they've fallen into a trap.
Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
I just I'm my mind is blown by that.
Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Mandy.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
The problem is, Mandy, I learned to lie way before
send me the link was a thing your friend Hillary.
Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Haha.
Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
I didn't know she had the text line number which
is always five six six nine. Oh, elon, muse, I
know I got tangled up in my words. There you
talk for a living fifteen hours straight a week, and
then you do it, okay, you do it without mistakes.
At twenty two, I was an Air Force officer in
no Rad with a nuclear mission. Not one of Hildeby's
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interns are without a clue. By the way, you know
what else I saw on X yesterday? And I should
have retweeted it so I could have it. Somebody shared
an article. Remember when we were told that Obama's youth
movement was the way to go all the twenty year
olds in the White House was just the that's the
wave of the future that we need to trust America's youth.
I mean, my goodness, this is the same party that
(01:02:26):
wants children to be able to decide to change their gender,
and now they're concerned that twenty one year olds are
looking at code in the Treasury.
Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
It is pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
You either think kids are smart enough to make all
decisions or you think kids are smart enough.
Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
To make no decisions.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Anyway, Mandy's it really worked to kill someone over a
freaking national kazoo band.
Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Yeah, they spent money on that too.
Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
At this point, nothing that I've seen about the spending
that we're seeing exposed surprises me. You know, Arod, we
made a terrible mistake. Terrible It's Super Bowl Friday. We
should have arranged to have our own version of Puppy
Bowl in the studio, you know, and just fill the
studio with puppies and just let them play.
Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Not bad idea. I mean, come on, are you showing
your lean what you're really going to be watching on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Uh No, But I just TMZ is on here in
one of the channels. It's on all the time of
the TVs. And they're talking about puppy Bowl right now,
and puppy Bowl is super cute, but.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
I don't want to watch puppies play. I want to
sit down on the floor and play with puppies. And
that's they're not offering.
Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
That.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Got a lot of text messages on the Common Spirit
Health text line. You can always text us five six
six nine, Oh Mandy, ask you anything?
Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
What is your favorite wing?
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
I am a very simple wing person, and as a
matter of fact, I now make these baked twins wings
where you take wings and then you roll in in
a combination of baking powder, aluminum free baking powder and
salt in some seasonings just like Garlod powder and paprika
and your basics, and then you lay them out on
a cookie sheet and you dry them for like three
or four hours in the fridge. You just put them
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in there uncovered, let them, let them dry out a
little bit, and then you throw them in a four
fifty of it and they are crunchy, they have good snap,
but they're not fried. And then if I have any
kind of sauce, I'm really just gonna do like a
tie chili sauce.
Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
Yeah, I prefer the right one. The what the right wing?
The right wings typically where I like to go.
Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
The right wing. Okay, not that, there you go, I
like it. Uh, Mandy, you realize the puppy bowl is
not much of a radio thing. It would be for
me an a.
Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Rod Arc parkwoof, woof, I'll look, they're here.
Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
I'm going to do a whole show I have, guys.
This is this is how weird my brain is. You
want a little window right now?
Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
So since I was first in radio, I for some
reason wanted to do a show like a gag show
right where where? And now I can't do it because
I'm telling you guys about the gag. But I've never
been able to get anybody to agree to this series
of things where we just did one show where we
just had a bunch of guests on that were all
visual jokes, like we have someone come on that's a juggler,
(01:04:59):
and we have someone that comes on that does card tricks,
and we have someone that comes on, and like every
guest on the show would be something visual that just
would not work on radio.
Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
And I've never.
Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Been able to pull it off. And now I can't
because you guys would see it coming. I don't know
why this is what, this is what I think about.
I am sorry. I'm very sorry about that, Mandy. Remember
they poops too, the puppies. Well, I have a box
of those puppy pads. So my view would be I
lay down the puppy pads all over the floor and
then unleash the puppies onto the puppy pads. I think
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I would be okay with it, Mandy. Have you seen
the documentary about constipation?
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Probably not. It hasn't come out yet.
Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
M m h.
Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
It's also asked me anything, Mandy. I'm in a client's
house who has a one week old puppies. Mama is
a rescue foster all.
Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
I love that, Mandy.
Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
It's disingenuous of the Democrats to disparage Doge and Elon
Musk when the Biden administration was effectively run by faceless
bureaucrats since Joe was mentally absent.
Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Exactly right, Mandy.
Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
So far, I've only heard about Democrat created programs that
have been wasteful. Are there any Republican created ones that
have been found that are wasteful? Also that from no
codein guys, I have seen so much stuff online that
people are sending out like, oh, look at this, look
at this, But I have verified I haven't been sharing
that stuff. I'm sure a lot of them are true,
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but I wonder if some of them are being padded
so I don't know. And if there are Republican generated
idiotic programs that we're wasting money on, I want them
to crash and burn. I don't care who creates this
wasteful spending.
Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
It all needs to go.
Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Mandy, do you think if they dump some of these
ridiculous projects that the government is spending money on, it
will cover the tariff taxes so prices for just about
everything doesn't go up for the normal America and citizen.
Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
I am not convinced that we are going to have tariffs.
I've said before, I say it again.
Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
I think the threat of tariffs is a starting negotiating
point for Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Mandy or a Rod.
Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
If you've seen that video of people on a talk
show that all have funny laughs, it's hilarious. You should
look it up. I love a funny laugh. I have
an aunt with like one of those booming funny laughs
that makes everybody else around her laugh, And I love it.
If you have, if you have a loud, distinctive laugh,
don't ever be afraid of it. Don't ever be shy
about it, because chances are you're making other people laugh too. Uh,
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Mandy A Rod is a toddler. Please keep him away
from the wing conversation. He made a very funny joke
that he likes right wing. Get it, right wing?
Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Get it?
Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
I you just made it even deeprit even think about
it like that. Literally, it was just going airplane wing.
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
No, that was funny.
Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I thought it was funny as.
Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
You were.
Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
You were, you're a poet. You didn't even know.
Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Now, there you go.
Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
I'm gonna ask me anything.
Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
When you were a kid, did you have one of
those kid toyless toy wireless microphones?
Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
And did you have a pretend talk show?
Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Guys, It never occurred to me that I could be
in talk radio until I met a man on an
airplane who told me that I should be in radio
or television.
Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Never even occurred to me that I could do this job.
Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
There was no women on the radio at all when
I was a kid, not even on the music stations.
Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Literally, no women. It never occurred to me that this
could be a job that I could do.
Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Until someone said you should think about doing this job.
Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
So yeah, it wasn't me. I wanted to be president, grew.
Speaker 8 (01:08:33):
Out of that.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
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Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
Come up at two thirty. We are going to talk
to Complete Colorado Sherry Pife about this wild ass story
out of the Denver DIA's office.
Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
It is a hashtag me too story, only.
Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
It's not what you might think, and it's ended up
in the disbardment of one of their attorneys.
Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
It is like a lifetime freaking movie. We'll talk to
her at two thirty.
Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
I saw a story this morning that in the grand
scheme of the front range doesn't really matter at all, right,
but I want to share with you anyway, because it's
going to watch my one of my most passionate beliefs.
Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
And it has to do with early childhood education.
Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
They are considering out in Pitkin and Garfield Counties creating
a special taxing district to boost support for early childhood education. Now,
the notion about child early childhood education is this the
standard line. The standard line is kids don't all have
the same upbringing, which is true. Your vocabulary as a
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small child is often determined in large part by your
parents' socioeconomic status and education. And what they find is
the kids from poverty come to kindergarten with a vocabulary
that is a fraction of the number of words that
kids from even upper middle class and above households. They
just don't get talked to, they don't get read to
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in the same way, and it's a terrible situation. So
the thinking is is that if you create a robust
early education system, then you will be able to help
these kids that are come into kindergarten behind start with
their peers.
Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
It sounds perfectly logical and rational, doesn't it. I mean,
who would argue against that?
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Well, a lot of people don't know that the federal
government itself did a longitudinal study of head Start and
its effectiveness on student achievement. Headstart is the program that
promises to provide high quality preschool to kids living in poverty.
Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Again, sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
You know, our children in the future, we should do
whatever we want whenever we need to to make sure
that they have the best chance of success in school.
So back in two thousand and seven or two thousand
and eight, the federal government commissioned a longitudal study to
follow students starting at three years old and following them
through the third grade. Now, the initial study was done
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after they went from preschool to kindergarten. They were tested
at the beginning of preschool and then when they were
tested when they got to kindergarten to see the effects
of head start interventions on their success.
Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
And I knew about the study because I was a
talk show host.
Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
And I paid attention and I interviewed multiple people about it,
and they were like, oh, the study is you know,
we're excited to see the kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Gains and what means for kids long term, and blah
blah blah. So I was waiting. I knew the study
was over.
Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
I knew that they had already had that enough years
and that the study had been completed.
Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
And I was waiting for the results. And I was waiting,
and I was waiting and I and I was waiting
for the results and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting,
And they released the results of this.
Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
On a Friday before holiday weekend in January of twenty ten,
and I was like, they released like five pm on
a Friday afternoon, and I was like, hmm, that smells
like they want to bury this story.
Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
So I read the study, and the study showed. Let
me just read to you what this study showed.
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
This is testing children after they got done with two
years of high quality preschool. And by the way, they
had a control group of kids who were not in preschool.
So some of those kids were just in daycare, right,
daycare being occupied the children, but you're not necessarily invested
in educating the children. Although I'm not saying it doesn't
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take place at daycare, but you know what I mean.
The endgame is different. So they had kids they either
stayed home with their parent or parents, or kids that
went to daycare, and then kids that were in head
start programs.
Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
And this is what they found.
Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
The advantages children gained during their time and Headstart and
up to age four yielded only a few statistically significant
differences in outcomes at the end of first grade for
the sample as a whole. So the actual changes were
so almost statistically insignificant that they were not impressive, but
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there were some There were some positive changes by the
end of first grade. Only a single cognitive impact was
found for each cohort. That means learning by the end
of first grade. There was some evidence that the head
start group and the three year old cohort had closer
and more positive relationships with their parents than the control group.
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For the four year old a cohort, there was an
impact on child health insurance coverage at the end of
first grade. I don't know how they credited had start
with that, but whatever, And then they talked about for
parenting outcomes.
Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
For the three year old.
Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Cohort, there were favorable impacts on use of time out
and authoritarian parenting at the end of first grade. Specifically,
those favorable impacts consisted of less use.
Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Of time out and spanking.
Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
For the four year old cohort, there were no significant
parenting practices impacts in first grade. So all this is like, Okay,
you're spending all this money on early childhood education and
now the federal government is saying it doesn't make that
much of a difference.
Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Well, what about in the future.
Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
If you look to another study that is not nearly
as easy to find as the first study. They went
back and checked with students at third grade to see
how a high quality preschool education impacted kids going forward,
and here's the summary. In summary, there were initial positive
impacts from having access to head Start, but by the
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end of third grade, there were very few impacts found
for either cohort in any of the four domains of cognitive, social,
emotional health, and parenting practices. The few impacts that were
found did not show a clear pattern of favorable or
unfavorable impacts for children. So by the government's own research,
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head start does not help children succeed long term.
Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
And why do I bring this up. It's not because
I hate preschool. I really don't. But let's call it
what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
It is glorified daycare, and we're paying people who are
highly educated to provide glorified daycare for parents. And if
we're going to spend this kind of money under the
guise of helping children succeed, then let's take all of
that money away from preschool and put it into interventions
in elementary school and middle school.
Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
That could have a much greater impact long term, like
making sure kids can read.
Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
What if we took the money that we're wasting on
head Start and we plug that money into reading supports
and math supports for children in elementary school, and as
soon as kids started to fall behind, they were essentially
given a tutor that can work with them, or maybe
a small group of children that are starting to fall
behind to make sure that they don't fall further behind,
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make sure.
Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
That they get the testing that they need.
Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Maybe they're finding out they're dyslexic and we need to
make sure that that kind of testing is available to
make sure kids are getting the interventions that they need.
Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
But do it when it could have lasting impacts.
Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
We already know the head Start in preschool programs don't
make a difference. And yet if you go look at
what the Department of Education is trying to do, they're
trying to expand headstart.
Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Why would they do this?
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Why would they do something that their own research clearly
shows does not work? And it's two words, my friends,
teachers' unions. This is the kind of government waste that
somebody needs to stop when we know that we're not
getting the outcomes that we desire, and know we are spending.
Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Gobs and gobs and gobs of money on it. This
is the kind of stuff that makes me crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
When the government itself says, oh that program doesn't work,
we just double down.
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
It makes no sense. Did you see this about Antonio Brown?
A Rod?
Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
What?
Speaker 8 (01:17:21):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Legendary NFL wide receiver Antonio.
Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Brown is broke?
Speaker 10 (01:17:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
WHOA?
Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
I know you're shocked. You should see a Rod shocked face.
It looks just like his normal face. The former Pittsburgh
Steelers Starr confirmed that he has filed for bankruptcy after
spending all of his career earnings. He originally filed for
Chapter eleven bankruptcy in May of twenty twenty four due
to debts and lawsuits. He said at the time he
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was filing in order to restructure his finances and repays debts,
and during a Podcast with a podcast appearance, he recalled
how much money he made in his career and how
none of it is left. He said, I think I
made one hundred million if you count off the field.
The podcast host asked, how much did you spend of
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that one hundred million? Brown responded, well, I just filed
Chapter eleven bankruptcy, so I spent all of it.
Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
I blew all of my money. I blew everything.
Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Brown claimed that all of his NFL earnings were taken
away and put it accounts for his future generations and said,
I just had my fun my people in my life.
They just took the money I made in the NFL
and they didn't make that money mine no more. They
put it away from my family, generations, the trusts. They
just threw it out there. So whatever I made in football,
I just saved it for my family generation, my kids kids.
Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
But if he doesn't have any money left, I mean, this.
Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Is one of those I mean, how often do we
hear these kind of stories, you know, where people just
blow through money. And this is one of those things
where I actually had someone say to me and they
said it with a straight face. They were like, you
know what, I don't think i'd want to win the
lottery because you hear about all these lottery winners who
win the lottery and.
Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Then they end up broke.
Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
And I'm like, that's because they don't change their name
and going to witness protection. That's because they don't immediately
take that check to a financial advisor and say, okay,
let's work together to make this more money. And the
problem is is that when you get what's what feels
like free money. And I know his NFL, he put
his body on the line every single day and all
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that stuff, But that's not what I'm talking about. But
the commercial money, the endorsement money, it feels like free money, right,
And you're not as careful as free money as you
are with money you earn. And to prove my point,
if you ever found like five.
Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Bucks on the sidewalk and you're like, whooo, I got
five dollars, it isn't accounted for.
Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
One time, when I was super broke, I found forty
dollars in the parking lot of a store and I
took it in. I tried to do the right thing
because I am that person, and I took it in
to the guy at the counter and I said.
Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Hey, I found this forty bucks in the parking lott.
Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
He goes, Man, there's a zero percent chance that we're
gonna get that back to the right person, So just
keep it.
Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Just keep the money.
Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
I don't know if I look especially pathetic, I don't know,
but man, I was broke at this time, like one
of those you know periods where you're like trying to
make your rent. Do you think I did anything responsible
with that money?
Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
No, I did not. I went out to dinner with
my friends because it was free money.
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
And I think a lot of these people that grow
up in poverty, and I'm assuming Antonio Brown grew up
in poverty. I don't know his full life story. They
don't know any money management skills, and one hundred million
dollars seems like an infinite amount of money when you're poor.
I mean, my god, you guys, one hundred million dollars
sounds like an infinite amount of.
Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Money for me, doesn't it to you?
Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Like I can't even imagine how I would spend one
hundred million dollars. But Antonio Brown is just proven.
Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
And is not that hard.
Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
I've had conversations with professional athletes over the years, and
one of the things that I've had multiple athletes, and
they're all African American athletes who came from extremely disadvantaged backgrounds,
and they have said some variation of the hardest thing
I've ever had to do in my life is tell
my friends and family know, because if I didn't, I
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would have nothing left. Because to them, one hundred million dollars,
you're never going to run out of money, and if
you don't share them or help them, or you get
them out of a bind or take them on vacation,
it gets really challenging. Some of those interpersonal relationships become
a problem.
Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
It's just kind of sad. I mean, I get it,
but it's just kind of sad.
Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
And Antonio Brown has been such a mess for so
long that this is honestly like the least surprising thing ever,
it really really is. I feel bad for the guy.
I feel bad for anybody who burns to a fortune
and doesn't really have the means to make another one.
I've known business people who have sold companies from millions
and millions of dollars and then started a new venture
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and lost everything, but because of their business acumen, they
were able to start another venture after that that ended
up being successful, so they made a lot of money.
And then they started another adventure and then they lost
a lot of money, but they had the ability to
go out and make a lot of money again. I
don't think Antonio Brown has that. I mean, what are
you going to hire him to do cause problems in
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the workplace. It's just a sad story. This is why
I think that every and I don't know, maybe they
have them. I think every professional team should have an
entire team of people that just works with young athletes
to help them understand how money works, how to spend it,
how not to spend it, to make sure that even
after their career is over, they're taken care of for
the rest of their lives. And not every player has
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that luxury, because not every player makes one hundred million dollars.
But this kind of stuff just should never happen. But
then again, you can lead a horse to water, but
you can't make him think what a rod does that
you guys don't know about. I thought I scheduled Sherry
Pife to come on the show, but I never actually
confirmed with her, and now we can't get ahold of
her bout talk about her story anyway.
Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
But this is why I don't schedule things.
Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
This is why a rod handles the back end stuff
that I obviously am competent to handle. Although I did
successfully schedule several people.
Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
For like the next few days.
Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Whoa I know, we got Representative Jeff Crank coming on
next week, and it's.
Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Like, you've done my position before.
Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
Well I have, but not it's been a long time
and I'm just bad at it.
Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
But let me tell you about this story by Sherry,
and if she brings us back, we'll just get her
on the air. But I have to talk about this
because this is absolutely crazy. This is on Complete Colorados
dot com their original reporting. Sherry Pife has done a
fantastic article about this.
Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
This is almost like when you hear.
Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
We've had several stories lately that I think would make
an excellent movie. The dentist who killed his wife like
the worst criminal ever. Fascinating story. I think that would
make a great lifetime movie. Now we have another contender,
a a former prosecutor for the Denver District Attorney's office,
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and I don't know how to pronounce her name.
Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Her first name. Her name is you why wait yu
ji n Eugene Choi. And back in.
Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Twenty twenty two, she was fired after an internal investigation
into a story that she started by accusing a fellow
attorney of sending her a sexually charged text message. She
went out to happy hour with some colleagues, or went
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out with some colleagues and showed them screenshots that were
allegedly from a colleague of hers named Brian Hines. She
told them that he sent her a text message calling
her a sex doll, and she showed it to her
superiors and investigation got started, and that's when things got
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really interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
So mister Hines.
Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Immediately denied any kind of inappropriate text messages, and the
text message in question said this, Eugene, please stop talking
about what I didn't do to our colleagues. You're using
your looks against innocent people. If you want to act
like a sex doll to get a.
Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
Sugar daddy, fine, but that will not be me.
Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Miss Choice claimed that she deleted the messages, but she
had screenshots of them. She showed them to our supervisor
and investigation started and they said, okay, mister Hines, we're
going to need you to give us your cell phone
and your computer, and we're going to need Miss Troy,
We're going to need you to do the same thing. Well,
mister Hines turned over his call logs from Verizon and
they did not show any.
Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Text messages to Miss Choi.
Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Both Hines and Choi initially consented to allow investigators to
extract messages from their phones, and Choi even said, look,
you can get evidence.
Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
From my laptop.
Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
However, on the Friday before Miss Choi was supposed to
turn over her electronics, she was nervous.
Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
She was anxious, and the next day she claimed she drew.
Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Herself a bath to relax, but accidentally dropped her phone
in the tub, and then shortly after she was so
rattled she dropped an open.
Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
Bottle of water all over her.
Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Laptop, rendering both pieces of electronics useless for the purpose
of extraction. On the next Monday, she was light as
a feather, laughing, joking, giddy. A few days later, investigators
got subpoenas to acquire the records directly from Verizon.
Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
Which proved that mister Hines never sent any of those
messages to Choi.
Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Rather, the Verizon records showed that Choi both sent and
received SMS messages at the times in question.
Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
What has happened to miss Choi? Now she has finally
been disbarred.
Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Judge Large, he is the providing disciplinary judge for the
Colorado Supreme Court, issued a disbarment ruling against Ushen Choi,
and she will not practice law anymore. By the way,
it took two years for this investigation to work its
way through, so she could be disbarred. By the way,
Dan Hines, a criminal investigator in the office, was reassigned
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to another area so we wouldn't have to see his accuser.
And this has created I mean, can you imagine when
accused of this kind of stuff, This creates a huge mess,
and it's terrible for the men who are accused.
Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
This is why years ago when we hashtag me too.
Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
What was going on, and everybody was like, we have
to believe all women and I was like, mm no,
because women can lie. Women wield that power and they
can lie, and this is a perfect example of it.
Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
I feel sorry for this guy.
Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
I hope he is fully exonerary and this doesn't continue
to follow him. And what's fascinating is that in the
dispartment ruling, the judge determined that Mschoi manufactured four text messages,
disseminated them to several coworkers and supervisors while falsely asserting
the messages were from Hines, altered her Verizon wireless message
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log and destroyed her phone and laptop to avoid having
them examined.
Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
I mean, you guys, this woman is a prosecutor.
Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
What is happening in Colorado that we have these women
in powerful positions that just do this crazy stuff and
expect not.
Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
To get caught.
Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
You got Robin Nesita, who, after being busted for making
a fake child abuse call to her own agency, faked
brain cancer to get out.
Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Of being prosecuted and use Google.
Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Images on her so called a documentation of said brain cancer.
Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
What is wrong with these people? Women are crazy? Completely crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Mandy, the next few days or Saturday and Sunday, I
hope you didn't schedule any guests for those days. We'll
find out, won't we Later Later, Mandy, it gets funnier.
I don't know what that's funnier for what. Oh yeah,
that was a continuation of the story. So yeah, that's
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that's the thing that's happening right now. Oh wait a minute, hmmm, Hey,
ron As, I'm sitting here talking another guest that I
thought was scheduled for tomorrow thinks he's scheduled for today.
So I'm gonna afford you this and you can fix
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that mistake, Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:29:46):
Get it together. I put this one on the calidar
though four day, I know, and it all falls apart.
Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
And there's certain things that I'm good at organization and scheduling.
Is that the not even on the list, not even
a little bit. He's the stat guy for the super Bowl,
and I want I have him on the calendar for tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (01:30:04):
Oh what's his name?
Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
Yeah? I just lost winer.
Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah yeah, so I have month for tomorrow afternoon coordinate
his game for Well, you can't give him a ring.
Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
I just said, you was numb right now? Yeah? Noell, Yeah,
I mean it's got time. Yeah, we got time. I
get it.
Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
I actually know I want to see him for tomorrow
because I want more time with him because I got
a bunch of questions.
Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Tomorrow is Saturday. Oh god, I'm gonna get him on
right now. How about that?
Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
That's fine, you guys. Is anybody else this bad? That stuff?
Any anyone else? Because I I just this.
Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
People laugh when I say, you have no idea the
stuff that day Rod has to.
Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Put up with? Is it busy?
Speaker 8 (01:30:47):
He?
Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
I do know.
Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
I think he was getting to New Orleans yesterday, so yeah,
he could be a little slammed.
Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
I'll keep trying.
Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
We got time. It's onty, I know we got time
is coming to play out the day in like ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
We have a break on for I responded to the
email and said, hey, we're calling you right now. So
hopefully he'll pick up and go from there. But you guys,
this is just and here's the best part about these
spectacular failures of mine. They're on the radio, so I
can't even pretend like they didn't happen. I can't even
be like, Nah, that didn't happen. Nahh it did, it
all happened.
Speaker 4 (01:31:18):
It all came crashing down right around me.
Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Jeez, little women. I was told all women are bipolar
or bisexual. I don't think I'm either of those things.
I think I'm terrible at organization and possibly on the
autism spectrum. But no, and to the text or please
share your stash, Mandy, Oh, I wish that was the
reason I do this. I put that into the same
category of stuff that like learning names. I think that
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there's a certain like organizational technical part of your brain
that's responsible for things like organization, remembering names, remembering phone numbers.
That part of my brain is on permanent vacation. Just
check out, absolutely checked out. Yeah no, I don't again,
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I don't have a stash. Got to be the altitude sickness,
that's that's probably it. I've been living here and joining
me now a man you know from his work on
the Broncos broadcast for many years now, and he will
be assisting the Spanish language broadcast for the Kansas City
Chiefs for the second year in a row.
Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Rick Winer, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 9 (01:32:27):
Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to be with me, Mandy.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Well, I'm sorry I'm calling you so late, but in
my mind you were coming on on Friday, and today
is clearly Thursday, So just kidding, sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Read No, I want to ask you. How did you
get into stats.
Speaker 9 (01:32:44):
Or I believe it or not. It started when I
was fifteen years old and I simply went into the
high school football coaches office and offered to the city
if they needed anyone to help with stats. And I
got this look like I had just gotten off of
the UFO, because they'd never had anybody, let alone as
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students at the school come in with that kind of
a request. And the coach said to me, may by
all means, we'll give you a playbook. You can start
the plays come with us to all the road games too,
And that kind of got it going for me, and
then I started working that same fall at the Chiefs games.
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I'm from Kansas City originally, and I got a chance
to work in the press box with the public relations director.
And you know, when Arrowhead was built, I did the
statistics for the storeboard when the stadium first opened. I've
been sort of doing this company ever since. Even used
to do play by play back in college on the
campus radio stations.
Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Well, yeah, certainly have a radio voice, but you have
a real profession, Like, you have a real job that's
outside of this, don't you.
Speaker 9 (01:33:51):
Yes, I do have a day job that takes me
to you know, some fun stuff that I've been working on.
I'm a psychiatrist, been in private practice forty years, and
I always tell people that are doing stats and games
has been my therapy all these years. So I think
it works out pretty well and my patients really get
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a kick out of it. Because I have a lot
of sports memorabilia in my office. I really do have
some psych books in there as well, but they're far
more entertained by what I've brought back from games, whether
it's a bobblehead or a program or flip or whatever.
So it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
It seems to me that as a as a sports fan,
the sort of stats that we used to gather have
expanded dramatically.
Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
Is that accurate? Or am I just learning about some
of those stats that were there?
Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Right?
Speaker 9 (01:34:39):
You're right, And in some of the stats there are
just so many abbreviation it's almost impossible to keep up
with them. And one of the things that I try
to do, and I'm doing stats in the game, is
try to keep it fairly simple. You know, what are
the numbers that help tell the story of the game,
And you want it to be not only accurate, but
you want it to be concise, and you want it
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to be understandable when it's conveyed by the announcers to
the people who are listening or watching. So there's so
much out there. But I'm doing a lot of this
on the fly as the game is going on, So
I do my homework, but I'm really looking for a
lot of different things during the course of the game
as well.
Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
What are some of your favorite sort of obscure statistics
that you just personally enjoy that maybe you don't share
as much.
Speaker 9 (01:35:28):
Well, I mean, the Super Bowl sort of has its
own set of statistics, and I've compiled my own record
books and might say that goes beyond what the NFL
generally provides in the postseason media guide, but there are
some fun ones. I mean, for one thing, we never
had a punt return for a touchdown in the Super Bowl.
That been five hundred and thirty six punts and not
a one of them has been returned for a touchdown.
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And yet there have been three blocked punts that have
been returned for touchdowns, So that's kind of unusual.
Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
That's very cool.
Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Do you think that the new kickoff rules made more
or less more a fewer returns for a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
On the kickoffs.
Speaker 9 (01:36:06):
Were on kickoffs, you know, we've had some kickoffs that
have been returned for touchdowns and the Super Bowl, but
no punts. But I think what's also happened. I think
the punters have gotten so good. I think they punt
the ball so high anymore these days. And also the
spinning and a lot of them are the kind of
the Australian rules guys who come over and they've become punters,
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and I think the spin on the ball makes a
difference as well. So there are a lot of things
that have contributed that, and certainly the rules on the kickoff,
although we now have the ball if it's a touch
back in the end zone. On a kickoff, it comes
after the thirty yard line, so a lot of teams
figure out to take the ball to thirty right enough
for me and go from there. So we've had like
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sixty five percent of the kickoffs resulted in touchbacks during
the regular season, and that wasn't a whole lot different
than it had been when the rules were for you
to kick off from the thirty instead of the thirty five.
Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Are there any sets that you feel are more useful
in determining whether a team is as good as you
think or a player is as good as you think
than others.
Speaker 9 (01:37:13):
There are certain ones that sort of jump out at me.
And just with the Super Bowl in mind, the turnover
ratio continues to be such an important statistic. I mean,
in the Super Bowls, what we've had with fifty eight
of them so far, and there have been thirty nine
times that the team with the better turnover ratio has
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won the game and only six times as the team
lost when they've had the better ratio. But that also
means that we've had thirteen games when it was even.
But that's still a very telling statistic. As his points
off turnovers, and it's a trend that we're continuing to
see here in the postseason. The twelve teams that have
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won postseason games so far are plus twenty one in
the turnover ratio. WHOA, so they have the winning teams
have twenty five takeaways, the losing team's only four, and
those four takeaways by the losing teams came in just
two games. Three of the four came in the first
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game of the postseason, when Houston had three turnovers and
still won the game against the Chargers, and then the
Chiefs had one turnover against Buffalo, the only game in
the postseason, by the way, so far that the winning
team has had a losing turnover ratio.
Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
That's because the Chiefs always find a way. It feels like,
I mean, that's what separates the good from the great,
you know, it really does. What are some of the
stats that you personally feel maybe over relied on by,
because I feel like there's two different kinds of stats,
right there's fans stats where you just want to find
out how your team did and how your favorite players did,
and then there's like analyst stats where they're trying to
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figure out, you know, statistically, what the best moves on
the team are what do you find to be I mean,
do you feel like the NFL maybe is relying too
much on stats.
Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
Or not enough.
Speaker 9 (01:39:10):
I mean, it's gotten to the point it almost feels
like they really too much. But I don't think so.
And I think one of the trends that we've seen
here in recent years, based on some of the analytics
that have been done, you see teams going forward on
fourth down. What used to I mean, to me, that's
a big change. If it was fourth and one, it's like, well,
were either punting the ball or we're going to try
(01:39:31):
a field goal. We think we got a shot at it.
But now teams are going forward on fourth and four
and more than five from midfield or sometimes even in
their own territory. So I think that's been a dramatic change.
Just to give you an idea, I mean, so far
in the postseason, the winning teams are sixteen of twenty
on fourth down.
Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
Wow, that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 9 (01:39:53):
But the losing teams are fifteen out of twenty nine.
So it's not like they've been bad. It's just you know,
here we are twelve games in postseason play, and there
have been forty nine fourth down attempts already, which is
sort of mind boggling.
Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
Rick Winer is my guest.
Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
He is going to be doing the stats for the
Kansas City Chief Spanish language broadcast.
Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
Do you speak the Espaniel, Rick.
Speaker 9 (01:40:17):
Pekita?
Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
You know?
Speaker 10 (01:40:18):
I mean.
Speaker 9 (01:40:20):
My six years of French are of limited value during
the broadcast. Thank goodness, the announcers I work with are bilingual,
so I can give them the information in English. I'm
pretty decent on numbers in Spanish, and I find myself
every now and then just sort of lapsing into giving
them yardage of a play in Spanish. But thank goodness,
(01:40:41):
they can take my information in English and go from there.
Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
I really appreciate you making time for us today, Rick,
and have a fantastic time doctor Rick Weiner. He's our
stats guy for the Broncos. He's working for the enemy
this weekend. But we'll forgive him for that. Rick, fas
for your time today, have a great one.
Speaker 10 (01:40:58):
Man.
Speaker 9 (01:40:58):
Enjoyed the Super Bowl, Thank you so much, many pleasure
being with you.
Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
And now another nerd joining me. It's Ryan Edwards, everybody,
because now it's time for the most exciting segment all
the radio of the sky.
Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
Of the day. All right, what is our word of
the day? Please?
Speaker 5 (01:41:20):
Word, I'm a joke. Get it together.
Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
You need a week, I'm telling you, I'm I'm just
having trouble.
Speaker 6 (01:41:26):
Well, it's a perfect time to this dad joke, because
as an American, I am tired of people saying America
is the stupidest country in the world. Personally, I think
Europe is the stupidest country in the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
That's that's uh, that's that's a thing that happened there.
All right, Now, what is our word of the day, please?
Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
It's a now, not even gonna try.
Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
Malapropism.
Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Malapropism that is when you get you mess up a
phrase or a word, or you misuse a word in
a way. Named after Miss malaprop from some play I can't.
Speaker 5 (01:41:58):
Remember allapropism you agree, I love? Yeah, Well, amusing error
that occurs when a person mistakenly uses a word.
Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
That sounds like another word but that has a very
different meaning.
Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
And it's named after a character named Miss Malapropety. Richard
Grisley shared in seventeen seventy play.
Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
That sounded like a smart alec answer that someone goes.
Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
In No, I actually knew that somehow in my brain?
Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
What is our or I have trivia and God bless
here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
Stalactites and stalagmites are two types of mineral formations that
appear in caves. What's the difference between a stalactite and
a stalagmite?
Speaker 5 (01:42:40):
One's taking from the ceiling ones coming from correct?
Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
I'm well done, Ryan Edwards.
Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Stalactites hang from the cave ceiling and often have pointed tips,
while stalagmites grow from the cave floor and have rounded
or flattened tips.
Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
There, that's the thing you know now, all right?
Speaker 10 (01:42:55):
Spend a lot of time at those are some famous
caves down in New Mexico, very long time being.
Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
A nerd like me? Does that too?
Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
Correct? Anyway? What is happening with our Jeopardy category? Please?
Speaker 5 (01:43:05):
Super Bowl halftime show?
Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Boy?
Speaker 5 (01:43:09):
Really many?
Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Okay, we'll see. We'll see. As could go either way.
Speaker 6 (01:43:13):
With Radio City Music Hall producing the show in nineteen
eighty eight, it's no surprise that it featured these dancers.
Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Were the rocket That is correct?
Speaker 5 (01:43:23):
I feel like we've done this one, but we're doing
it again.
Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
I don't remember the rockets answer In nineteen.
Speaker 5 (01:43:27):
Ninety eight, Smokey Robinson and the temptation. What is Motown? Correct?
Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
Ryan Edward's well done.
Speaker 6 (01:43:34):
She let up the halftime show in twenty fifteen with
a fireworkal.
Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
Who's Katy Perry jub.
Speaker 5 (01:43:40):
Was it this one? We'll do it? It can't.
Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
They started the halftime show in two thousand and six
with starting up Who's the Rolling Show?
Speaker 5 (01:43:48):
Look at you?
Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Ryan?
Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Tie t you here we go.
Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
Many of the early shows, introducing the first one featured
this Louisiana School's famous marching man?
Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
What is l s U?
Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
Whoa? I have no idea? Oh, dang it Ryan with
the dang it, dang it?
Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
And if we did have that category, obviously I didn't
remember it. What's coming up today on your Super Bowl
show preview thing there?
Speaker 10 (01:44:16):
Yeah, we have Rick Lewis's shooting, which is always a
great time.
Speaker 5 (01:44:18):
And yeah, we'll talk about the super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (01:44:20):
We'll talk about Pastor Tan winning defensive players Super cool
for him.
Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
What a nice honor for Pat Just a nice honor.
Speaker 10 (01:44:27):
The brothers did a really cool thing. We're gonna play
it here. In the first segment, they interviewed his dad,
his mom, Peyton Manning, Sean Payton, a bunch of players,
and yeah, they made a silly reel like three minutes.
Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Of them all, Oh my gosh, did it get you?
Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
You got you got to get you? All right, that's
all coming up next.
Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
I'll be back on Mondays since today is indeed Friday
instead of Thursday.
Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
Keep it right here on KOA
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome, Local, Welcome to a Friday edition of the show altogether.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Now that's right, what do we have a lot of
stuff to do?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And as you can tell from that, Anthony Rodriguez back
from his adventures in New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
As they say, how was it?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Huh one of the coolest things I've ever done.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Hey, that's awesome them.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Me, I've covered it all. I've done the finals in
the NBA, I have done the Stanley Cup Final. Done
March madness.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Aren't you afraid you're gonna peak early? You know, if
you haven't done you have not done the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
No, I've not done the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
But that's chef's kiss.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
I have gotten stupid, lucky, lots of hard work to
only just a little over the age of thirty and
having done all that already in my professional career. So
big shout out to Dave Tepper, Jojo Brenda Jeff Johnson,
everyone here at KOA.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I'll make it possible.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Yes, Chevron Colorado of course for helping to make it possible.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
It was amazing.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I just so many awesome interviews, so many fun experiences,
so many different people that I got to chat with.
New Orleans is I mean, honestly, if they always hosted
Super Week in the Super Bowl, I don't think anyone
would ever complain.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
They're just so seasoned at it. It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I know now you got to go to one in Miami.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
That's what I've heard.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Now, keep going back and forth because now they're both
time for hosting it the most times. So I mean
sand Fry next year's got a high bar, high high bar.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
So it was just amazing.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Again, all of our coverage at KAOIE collar had a
lot of awesome videos that have just skyrocketed.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
I think so everyone that have all of our social
media you can see all of the coverage, and a
Rod has done a fantastic job of bringing you right
into the week before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Of course the game is on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, I will not be at a Super Bowl party
because I just want.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
To watch the game and eat snacks. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Let me tell you what's on the blog right now,
because it's a good one. As always, it's a Friday blog.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Look for the headline.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, let's tell me where to go. Go to mandy'sblog
dot com.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
That's gonna bostilt.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Nope, there's no about No. I bought the I bought
that nice.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, I just haven't redirected it, so I'll do that anyway.
Go to mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that
says two seven to twenty five blog how constitutional are
Trump's eos?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Plus a wild hashtag?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Me too?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Lie?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Click on that, and here are the headlines you will
find within.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
I think office half of American all the ships and
clipments of press flute.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Today on the blog, it's an ask Me anything kind
of day. Ay Rod is back and the latest A
to Z pod about the super Bowl is live. Which
of Trump's executive orders will stand when a prosecutor goes rogue?
Why housing first isn't working? See your Regent, Wanda James
hate science? How long will this eviction take? The Colorado
(03:23):
education blueprint? Congrats to pats certain The King's super strike
is hitting girl scouts hard. The Walmart Foundation funds climate propaganda.
We don't need more early childhood education. These majors will
leave you broke.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
And in debt.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Unemployment claims arising faster in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Warm drinks won't warm you up.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
The NCAA of firms, Trump's order on trans athletes, how
big porn operates least surprising NFL story of the day.
Hollywood is trotting out retreads, Golden retrievers. This is your
weekend in Golden Transportation secretary takes Hillary Clinton out on
X Now Shakespeare gets trigger warnings tgif everybody this is
(04:06):
another original film I want to see. The Daily Show
takes on reversing DEI, how do we boycott things? Amy
Schumer's coming to red Rocks and thanks for taking care
of this lady. Those are the headlines on the blog
at mandy'sblog dot com. And got a lot of video
on the blog today, some of it very very entertaining.
(04:28):
You know, I have a story on the blog and it's,
you know, not that surprising. But apparently during the Super
Bowl on Sunday, we are going to see a bunch
of movie commercials right for movies that are coming out
this summer and they're almost all retreads, sequels, reboots, whatever.
There's just no original ideas coming out of Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And I found two.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Movies today that I think both of them will take
me to the theaters because they just look so different. One
of them is The Amateur with Remy and he plays
the CIA analyst whose wife gets murdered, and it's a
vengeance movie and it looks so good because you just
(05:11):
watch the trailer. I'm like, yep, I'll go to the
theater to see that one. And then there is a
movie coming out that is by the same guy who
did Parasite, which was He's South Korean and the director
is and Parasite was a very interesting film.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
It's one of those films.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
That when I've got done watching it, I was like, huh,
I'm glad I watched that.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't know if I'll ever watch it again, but
I'm glad I watched it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well, he's got a new movie out called Mickey seventeen
that looks insane in.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
The best possible way, and from what I can tell.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's set in the dystopian future and the guy Mickey
decides he's going to sign up as an expendable which
are people that they find creative ways to kill in
the advance of science, and then they reprint them. I
know it sounds but it looks awesome that trailers on
the blog today as well, So I don't know what
else we should be looking out for. I've decided, ay, Ron,
(06:07):
I'm going back to the movie theater this summer.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It's gonna happen. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Well, you can before you even go there, you can
sit in the comfort of your own home and watch.
Have you watched yet and finished Amelia Perez?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I have not finished it yet. It's frankly, I gotta
tell you this. The last couple of weeks for me,
just personally, for a whole bunch of reasons that don't matter,
have been really incredibly busy, and I don't think I've
sat down to watch anything. And I know that sounds
crazy to people except last Saturday and get on of
my chair. But Chuck was there, and I don't think
you would like Amelia Perez, so I'm probably not gonna
(06:40):
make him watch the.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Rest of it. So I have not watched.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Boy, it's getting killed right now. The movie is absolutely
getting killed by people who didn't fight it at all.
I felt it compelling enough. I watched the first third
and I thought, and of course, Amelia Perez is an
OSCAR nominated movie. It's nominated for thirteen Oscars, which I
think is way overblown. But it was nominated for thirteen
Oscars for two reasons. Number one, the story is a
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trans focused storyline. Number two, it's in a foreign language.
Number three it stars a trans woman. So that's why
it's up for all these awards.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
I genuinely wonder, though, like the NFL awards that I
think are voted on before, like the playoffs start, when
do the Oscar votes go in, because I wonder if
before the criticism, because honestly, before that all came out,
Mandy that was one hundred percent winning Best Picture A
thousand I've watched.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Half of them.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Yeah, I'm telling you, Amelia Perez was a what one
thousand percent going to win Best Picture. I don't know
now if the votes haven't gone out yet, I don't
know now.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
If it's going on some.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
People are just gonna penalize the trans woman who was
found to say bad things about I don't even know.
I don't even care, I really don't care h to me.
The movie was definitely interesting enough to go back and
watch the last two Thursday.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I just haven't had time.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
It's really oh yeah, really good, really good, Mandy.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
There's some good news breaking. This happened within the past
thirty minutes. The gun band build banning detachable magazines for
gas operated firearms and other among other guns got pushed
back for a second time to next week.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
They don't have enough votes to pass it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Senators are listening to constituents. Some of those senators are
calling an email and constituents back asking why they want
them to vote no. Keep up the work, people, keep
those emails and calls coming.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
We are making a difference that from a Texter Mandy.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's an ask me anything kind of day. By the way,
we have a couple of things coming up. Oh ay, Rod,
real quick, what is on the A to Z podcast about.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
The Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well, first of all, we have a Super Bowl Broncos
champion on the show, Marvin Washington, who won Super Bowl
thirty three with the Broncos, played defensive end. So we
talked to him about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
And then I give a really fast, cool like montage
of all the fun interviews that I was able to
get on Radio Row and all around New Orleans. So
all of that and a whole lot more. Zach can
I break down game predicted that all is on the
pod all.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Right, and you can find that right at mandy'sblog dot com.
Coming up at one o'clock, we're going to talk to
constitutional scholar at UC Berkeley, John Yu about whether or
not all of these executive orders that Trump is issuing
are going to with stand court with review right because
all of them are being sued over right now. So
we'll get his thoughts on that, and then later on
(09:22):
in the show at two thirty, Sherry Pie from Complete
Colorado dot com is coming up. Remember back when hashtag
me too was really at at its zenith and we
were told hashtag believe all women and I was like, yeah,
not for nothing, women lie about that. We have the
Cuckoo for Cocopuffs story out of the Denver DA's office
(09:46):
about a fake, you know, accusation of sexual impropriety that
ruined a guy's life for a while there and now
has ended up with a dispartment of the woman who
levied the charges. Sherry Pife has the entire lifetime movie
story coming up at two thirty. It's Craig Cray totally crazy.
Now it doesn't ask me anything kind of day. It's
(10:08):
Friday five, six, sixth nine. Now I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I uh, I.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Have a splitting headache and I've had it for the
last hour and a half and I'm pretending I don't
have a headache. Fake it till you make it a rod.
So if you got it's fine, lighten the load. That
would be fantastic. Mandy, you've got to talk about paper
straws being banned. I love Trump for going back to
plastic straws. Sorry, environmental wackos. Did he Did he make
(10:35):
a plastic straw? See if Trump executive order up paper
one Google Trump plastic straws? Said the banning paper straws?
Oh wait a minute, did he ban them? I'm looking,
Oh my god, I would love that?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Is there anything more worthless?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Trump promises executive order against straws.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know what, that's hilarious. I mean, you guys, wait
a minute, just to stop the presses for just a second.
The President of the United States is going to take
the time to have someone draw up an executive order
related to something that is universally despised by.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Everyone who uses them. But it's going to take him
two seconds.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's gonna be a nothing thing that a vast majority
of people in the country are going to be like.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
Hell.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Yes, here's the beautiful two sentence statement from Donald Trump himself.
I will be signing an executive order next week ending
the ridiculous Biden push for paper straws which don't work.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Back to plastic. Yes, I mean, we can save the
environment in a million different ways. Back cam you want
of them. Paper straws got to go.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Do you know what I found interesting in the last
time I was on where were we were? We were
somewhere It was a border sto Oh and you know
what we got in Puerto Rico?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
We got plastic bags. You know what else? We got straws.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Did you pay for him?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
No, of course not.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
We paid for them by purchasing something from the store
and they were provided as a.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Convenience for us. What a crazy concept, I know.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And there, did you know that they're an island? Yeah,
they're an island there and they still have paper bags
and straws. Go figure, Go figure anyway anything you want
to know text us today on the common spiritual text
line within reason five six six. And I know, Mandy,
we need to know how is jinks doing jinks? My
dog was hit by a car when I was walking
(12:23):
her last week. I should have been clear she was
on a leash when the whole thing happened. It happened
very quickly. It was very massive fail on my part
and her part. But she's perfectly fine. She had a
bad abrasion, but now it's completely healed up. She is
a okay and back to her normal obnoxious self. Mandy,
(12:44):
how are they held having a flyover for the Super
Bowl if it's a domed stadium? And I'm not asking
the second question, just saying I don't know. I mean,
I guess they could just have the flyover and then
show it on the screen to the How do they
do flyovers at a dome stadium?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Google that a rod see if there's a.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Thing, Mandy, I'd like to see Trump ban traffic circles too,
Do you guys love a traffic circle? A traffic circle
is so much more efficient than a red light or
a stop sign. It's you just have to learn how
to do it. And obviously we are failing at education.
On the traffic circle. I love a traffic circle.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Just learn. We all got to learn together.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
So apparently, even with it being a dome, they do
the flyover, but it's obviously more so for the entertainment
of being televised to the audience.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
So they're doing it. Yeah, and it looks like still
over the Superdome and.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They'll just have it on big screens inside, so everybody, can,
you know, hoot and holler and carry on.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah, it's for the millions of viewers, not just the
what eighty thousand inside?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, So there you go. Happy Friday, Mandy, wondering. Oops
that updated fast. If you have thoughts on construction prices
skyrocketing doing to the ice arrests on illegal immigrants with
no criminal records, Thanks and have a great weekend. I
have seen conversations, but I have not seen actual numbers yet.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I like, for the aviation nerds, it'll be two Marine
Corps F thirty five bs and four MV twenty two
B tilt rotors. Oh, kyd oky, you mean to fly
over whatever those are?
Speaker 9 (14:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
The O K doo K Mandy.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Six hundred milligrams of advil with a big dose of
caffeine helps my bad ones.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Love your show. I am really allergic to advil. So
unless you want me to.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Sit here and have my face swell up, which is actually.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Kind of entertaining, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I'm probably not.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Gonna take the actvill But I appreciate you. I really
do appreciate you. Trump needs to ban zipper merging.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Stop it. You hate speecher.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Have you noticed I have noticed people seem to be
getting better in Colorado with the zipper merge. We've all,
we all worked together, me Kyle Clark on nine News.
We all work to educate people about.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
The zipper merge.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I had a beautiful zipper merge experience yesterday, we all
and you know what as we had as everybody just
zipper merged onto the one lane. I think I could
hear other people in their car singing kumbah yah as
I was singing kumbah ya as well.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I mean, maybe that didn't happen, Maybe it did. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
You don't either, man. Did you just see the conclave?
And if yes, what did you think of the message?
Ending have not seen the conclave yet? Is that one
you've seen?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I have seen very very good. The messaging at the end. Yeah,
it was a bit of a twist and a bit strange,
but uh, you won't mind it. You won't mind it.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
I think it's really good. It's another contender, definitely for
Best Picture. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's probably up there now
that now that I would venture to guess if the
voting hasn't gone out yet, if Amelia Prez is kind
of shoved aside conclave you No, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
The film is going to be shoved aside. I think
the best supporting actress is going to be shoved aside.
The film itself. I think is going to be okay.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I don't know, because they're not blaming the.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Film itself for what the actress who plays Amelia Prez
did on our Twitter fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Or is the Academy not shallow?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh no no, no wait, oh a Rod, you are
at Aaron when we talked about this, Okay, you are.
You are forgiven for not knowing this. We talked earlier
in the week about the fact that the Oscar races themselves,
millions of dollars are invested in the actual Oscar races,
So the nominations happen.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
First, there's a big push before the.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Nominations by the various studios and distributors to get their
films nominated. Then once the nominations are out, even more
money is poured into promoting these films for everybody in
Los Angeles. Like if you go to Los Angeles right now,
every billboard is a movie, a television show, whatever, trying
to get pressed for a word season.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Conversely, in addition to the promoting your own piece, you're
gonna do everything you can to destroy the chances of
the other work. The supporting actress stuff. It seems right
now to only be sticking to the supporting actress. So
she's the only one that's been taken out. But will
the rest of the film survive, we don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
But being the face of it, don't think the Academy
would want to distance themselves any more promotion of that film.
Speaker 10 (17:02):
No.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I think that Hollywood has a tendency to believe that
after they've taken their pound of flesh, that's enough. And
so if they take the pound of flesh from the
supporting actress, and then they can give the movie an
award and still get credit for elevating trans storylines without
giving an award to someone who posted some stuff that
was nasty about Muslims.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I think that's really what they're looking to do.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, so I guess I should watch the rest of
the movie after that.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Really good.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Traffic circles quickly show you who's a Texan with a
Colorado license plate.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Okay, that's pretty funny. Pretty funny, Mandy.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I'm not sure you talked about it that it was
so emotional watching Trump sign the executive order banning men
from women's sports. All the girl athletes surrounding Trump with
Trump's big smile was just wonderful. Contrast to that with
Joe Biden trying to smell some girl's hair.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Love our President.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I actually made a snarky comment to that effect on Twitter,
which you should always follow my social media at Mandy Connell.
If you don't follow me on Instagram at the Mandy
Connell or Facebook at Mandy Connell, you may miss some
big announcements that are coming up pretty soon that I'm
only going to be making on social media. Are you
intrigued yet when.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
We can find no? Oh no, no, you already know.
I think, oh, it's nothing. Now, you already know, you know,
you already know. It's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
When we get back, I want to talk about a
column written by David John Heights. I've had him on
the show before. He is a formerly homeless guy who
works as a reporter. He also lives in supportive housing
and lo and behold. You know who is a slum
word The City of Denver. I'll explain when we get back.
The City of Denver has created a whole new bureaucracy
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for holding landlords accountable. The assumption being that landlords are
such scumbags that they won't do the right thing unless
the City of Denver inserts themselves into that relationship. And
in some cases they are right. We already have existing
offices where people can complain about slum lords that do
things like make sure that the water or you know,
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not make sure that water flows through an apartment building.
I mean, you'd think that if a landlord was in
a situation where the water was out for three or
four days, you'd be pretty safe in calling them a
slow lord.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Right well.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
A city owned property that provides permanent supportive housing for
formerly homeless people is Fusion Studios. And from what I
understand from a resident, they've not had water there for
four days now. That resident is David Heights. He's been
on the show before. David was a journalist and then
had some significant mental health issues that left him homeless,
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and he's recovering from that. He is happy to have
supportive housing. But he wrote a column today called opinion
housing first isn't working in my homeless hotel, and I
just want.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
To share part of it with you.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Giving homeless people housing without requiring them to also have
a job, get sober, or obtain mental health treatment is
known as housing first and has become synonymous with liberal thinking.
As a result, housing first policies are under fire by
the right, which wields more political power than it has.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
In many years.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Nonprofits are running scared that President Trump may target housing
first funding.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
But is housing first really so bad?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
As someone who experienced homelessness and now lives in permanent
support of housing in Denver, I must say yes, housing
first really is that bad. Here's why some formerly homeless
people immediately obtain mental health or substance abuse treatment when
they get into housing. Perhaps they had already been in
a mental hospital. These newly sober people don't need to
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be mixing with people straight from encampment smoking fentanyl off foil.
They deserve a chance at success in sobriety. Providing free
housing without requiring work, use, management, or treatment undermines the
value of personal responsibility. When individuals take steps to improve
their own circumstances, it gives them ownership over their lives.
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Humans want to feel like they are working toward something.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Now, there's more to the column, and it's not all bad.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
He gives a lot of credit to I think it's
Catholic charities that manages this for the excellent healthcare.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
That people are provided.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I mean, he talks about the good and the bad,
But this is from a person living in this housing,
and it sort of it sort of dispels.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
The myth that housing is the problem.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Maybe for a fraction of the chronically homeless people in Denver,
it's just a housing problem.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
But the reality is is that most.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
People, especially people who are chronically homeless, they're on the
streets because they have a whole host of issues that
need to be addressed, and a lot of it ends
with addiction. But the addiction is a response to trauma
or significant mental illness, they're self medicating. I mean, there's
all these multifaceted and layered things that go on here,
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But allowing people to continue to wallow in their addiction,
especially around other people who are trying to overcome that addiction,
doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I talked about the podcast.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I watched the other day, Diary of a CEO with
Stephen Martlett on Dopamine in your Brain, and he had
this woman who works on dopamine and addiction and all
these different things.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And when you learn how your brain.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Responds as to dopamine and the release of dopamine that
happens during a dopamine rush when you take drugs or
other stimulants or other things that inspire the release of dopamine,
you realize, as she says, that the inclination to chase
that dopamine rush that you get from drugs is so
strong that it outweighs all rational thought about. You know,
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you're going to lose your family, you're going to lose
your house, You're you're hurting people that you love.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Stuff gets pushed to the side as your brain is
trying to figure out new ways to chase dopamine it's
a fascinating conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
But knowing that it's like.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Okay, we have all of these people who are out
of their minds on the streets.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
They're just out of their minds, and we have housing.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We have these homeless advocates who really believe that just
taking someone who is using drugs and is not connected
to reality the way that you know.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You and I are, and just put him in housing and.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Expect them to wake up the next day and go,
oh my gosh, I have a place to.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Live, I need to get treatment. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
And what they're doing is putting people who are trying
to get sobriety and are trying to maintain sobriety in
close contact.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
With people who are not. David says in this.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Article he was attacked by one of his fellow residents
with a pipe. He was waiting for the elevator and
was attacked by a guy with a pipe who is
now facing prison time.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And this comes down to one thing for me.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
The way I look at this is this, people who
are trying to improve and get better deserve better treatment
than people who are not.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
And it doesn't mean I want the.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
People who are not ready to get better and get treatment,
treated badly, But they certainly don't deserve the same privileges
as people who are trying to choose sobriety, trying to
choose work, trying to become productive members of society, and
we're treating them all the same.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
And it's wrong.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
It's wrong for the people that you're allowing to wallow
in an addiction that will most certainly kill them and
at a bare minimum, is destroying their brains the longer
they remain in that addiction.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
And it's quite another to.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Have people who say, look, I have these issues. I
want treatment and help for my mental health issues. I
want to remain sober, I want to go to work.
Those people deserve all the support in the world, where
the other people deserve a totally different kind of support,
and it doesn't include a free house with no responsibilities.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I was talking to a friend of mine the other day.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You know, we have teenagers about the same age, and
she's experiencing some you know, teenage angst with one of
her kids, and she's sort of in her wits end,
and I said to.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Her, the hardest part about.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Being a parent is watching your kids fail and standing
mind letting them fail, but you know that that failure
is going to provide a way better lesson than anything
that you can say to them.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
And that some some kids have to learn.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
The hard way. That's just the reality of it. And
those kids can exist in the same family with kids
who actually take other people's advice so they don't have
to learn the hard way. But people are all built differently.
I feel the same way, like some people are not
going to get it together until they're faced with hard choices.
It's what Aurora is looking to do. It's what many
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other successful operations where that have helped people get off
drugs and alcohol have done. And I don't think it's
too much to ask that we start treating the people
who are actively engaging and changing their lives and behavior
with a different modicum of respect than we treat people
who just want to remain addicts.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
So yeah, So, anybody who knows anything about the Fusion Studios.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
If you know anybody who get the water turned back
on over there, the residents sure would.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Have appreciated sure, sure would appreciate it. Anyway. Oh and
by the way, if.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
You click through that article on the blog, David gets
paid by the click, so that would help him out
and help him make a little more money. And I
like to support him because he's trying really, really, really hard. Okay,
let's take out. We're going to take a quick time
out here. Mandy really mixed on the amateur ramy is intense,
(26:51):
looks like a Mister Robot movie, but it has Laurence
Fishburn in it. What's the beef with Laurence Fishburn? I
don't care about as politics. By the way, I'll stop
paying attention to Hollywood people's politics because I don't care.
I like Laurence Fishburn. I mean, what's the problem there, Mandy.
We know how you feel about cars for kids. How
(27:12):
do you feel about all those mail enhancement ads all
over iHeartRadio? Does anyone really take their drugs to improve
their quote gains at the gym?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
If you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Testosterone, Testosterone replacement for men as they age is as
incredibly wonderful as hormone replacement for women as we age.
I am a true believer, and it is sometimes about
gains at the gym, but it's also about.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Other stuff too. I mean, let's be real, but we
can't just talk about that.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Mandy could you please explain why it's important to say
taxpayers Bill of Rights and not call it tabor.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I heard you talk about that once.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
It's very important, especially in a state where we have
so many newcomers and people that have just moved here
may not know that TABER stands for the Taxpayer Bill
of Rights.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
And when you put it like that, oh.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
The taxpayer Bill of rights, that's looking out for me,
the taxpayer, it sounds a lot more personal than saying tabor.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Just using the shorthand.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
TABER is designed so people will forget that the entire
bill was based on helping us, the taxpayers, keep more
money back in our pocket and limiting the size and
scale and growth of government. So please refer to it
as the taxpayer Bill of Rights, even if you just
say at least one time, the Taxpayer Bill of Rights,
you know, tabor, just to make sure people never forget
(28:36):
what that is and why we have it. And it's
gonna stop mattering very very soon. The Democrats have reallocated
our table refunds to other people your salt. This year,
a lot of people are going to be shocked with
their table refund and next year it's going to be
even smaller.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
So be clear about this.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
The government has plenty of our money, plenty of our money,
even though they're all poor mouthing right now, Trust me,
they have plenty of our money. They can make do
with what they've got because not many of us have
made up the twenty percent that we've had to pay
in inflation.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
So times are tight.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Let the government tighten they're about the same way that
we've tightened ours. I think that's fair, absolutely fair. So
remember the other day when we were talking about Oh
A Rod. We got an update, so we talked about
this story. I think did we talk about the story
about the swastika in the window at Congress Park apartments?
Somebody threw a rock through it when you were here.
This all happened this week. I can't remember. There's an
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apartment building at Congress Are at Colfax and Josephine, and
somebody on the second floor apartment put a swastika in
one of the windows. One of the neighbors obliged them
by breaking it out, And then I came on the
show the next day, I'm like, wait a minute, who
owns this apartment complex? We found out we got a
statement from the a property manager, and this guy is
being evicted. So now today the Denver Gazette has the story,
(29:55):
and I want anyone who lives in that area if
you are in that area on a regular basis, and
you know the window that I'm talking about, and you've
seen the swastika, because, by the way, the tenants put
another swastika in another window. So now they're kicking him out.
But I want to know how long this is going
to take in Denver? How long does it take to
kick someone who has gotten your property damage because they
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put a swastika in your window? How long does it
take to get that person out? I think it's going
to be a very interesting sort of experiment that will
give people an idea of what Denver has done to landlords.
By the way, the same like if Denver held themselves
to the same standard at Fusion Studios, they would really
be mad right now at themselves. So, yeah, Mandy, I'm
(30:41):
going to so the Carolina is in a week. I
want to try Bojangles Chicken.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Is it worth it? Yeah? One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Bojangles is worth flying to the Carolinas for a period.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Dare I say it's better than their barbecue? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Oh, yeah, I'm firmly in the case AC Barbecue camp.
That's my favorite barbecue. Texas barbecue probably second. But nothing
touches KC Barbecue. It really doesn't, Uh, Mandy. I particularly
like getting a ten ninety nine the other day for
the refund I received from overpaying my taxes last year.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
What what? What is that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, so that is something we're gonna watch
the eviction we got bad in there, oh really quickly.
Because I'm not a sports show, I did want to
say a very, very big congratulations to Pat certain He
is the NFL Defensive Player of the Year. This is
really exciting, only a second Bronco to do it, and
well deserved. You know, this was a year that nobody
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thought the Broncos were gonna do anything, so we definitely
overperformed and defensively, Pat just had an outstanding year. And
I know that the guys on KAA Sports are going
to be talking about it. They may be able to
I don't know if they're going to talk to Pat again.
They usually talked to him during the season. So there
you go, Dear Mandy, ninety days to kick anyone out?
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Are you sure with the new laws that went into
effect last year. My property manager sent out a lengthy
email with all of the changes, and I asked her,
I said, hey, you know, would you come on and
talk about eviction?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
She goes, Oh, I don't handle that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
She has an attorney that handles that, and she's never
had to evict someone.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
In eight years because she's very choosy about who she
let's move in. And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
We'll see what happens. We shall see what happens. Now,
when we get back, we have John Yu He was
a constitutional scholar from the University of California, Berkeley, and
we're going to talk about Trump's executive orders because they're
all being challenged in court as we thought they probably
would be. What stands the best chance of being upheld,
what stands the best chance of being thrown out, and
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exactly how constitutionals ruling by executive order.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
We're going to do all that. Next.
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Bendy Connell, Keith you sad Babe, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Welcome to the second hour of the show.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And over the last eighteen days, President Donald Trump has
issued a flurry of executive orders and lots of questions
being bandied about and will be decided by the courts
on whether or not these executive orders will be allowed
to stand. And joining me now the law professor from
UC Berkeley and also visiting visiting fellow John you with
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the New School of Civic Leadership at the University of
Texas in Austin.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
John, Welcome to the show. First of all, thanks, Amandy,
It's great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I want to start with kind of a macro question
about this, and I've said this often on the show.
I don't like executive order leading leadership because just as
easily as they are written, they can be overturned by
the next president and there's no consistency there. But let's
talk about the overall constitutionality of what Donald Trump is
doing via these executive orders. How much power does the
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president actually have here?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
The presidents have.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
A lot of authority under executive orders.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
I think there's a big difference between for example, a
President Obama and President Biden did with their executive orders,
which I thought a number of them went, I'm too far,
like the DACAP program or not collecting student loans. And
what President Trump is doing here, what President Trump is
doing primarily is about how you run the government, how
you run the executive branch. It's almost like Donald Trump
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is the head human relations officer of the federal government.
And so the law, the very contrab virtual orders that
people are attacking now are things like we're not going
to have DEI initiatives within the federal government anymore, or
we're not going to allow political persecution of our political
enemies using the Justice Department or the FBI. These are
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about restraining the government, about keeping it within bounds and
making sure it runs consistently with the way President Trump,
you know, his agenda and the way he campaigned for office.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Then there's another.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Kind of executive order which I think Trump is using
again causing a lot of controversy, which is Congress gives
a president a lot of power to send issue regulations,
to choose cases to prosecute, and so on, and he's
announcing early on how he wants to use those powers
that Congresses have given presidents for decades and decades. So,
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for example, when President Trump issues an executive order saying
I'm going to prioritize the Justice Department and the FBI
on immigration, on illegal aliens and getting felons out of
the country, he is allowed to do that just the
same way you know, President Obama and President bides it.
I'm not going to prioritize, you know, using federal law
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enforcement to handle illegal aliens. That's those are controversial, but
the president has the constitutional power to do it.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
What are your thoughts on ruling via executive order? I mean,
this is not sustainable in any real way. But does
this embolden in Congress or empower them in some way
to pursue legislation to make these things more permanent in
your view?
Speaker 8 (36:39):
So some of some parts of it, like a lot
of what Trump is doing, are just inherent in there
being a president with an executive branch, and you have
to decide how the executive branch is going to run.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
You're going to have to decide what you want.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
Right, what do you want federal employees to do, how
you want to like again, how you want human hr
to work within the federal government. That's that's just part
of of having an executive branch. Now, what Congress can do,
and this is actually goes well beyond executive orders. What
Congress has to do is take more responsibility for itself
right and issue orders. So here's a common one is
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why does the president like Biden get to go and
say I'm going to make half of Alaska National Park
no drilling for oil in Alaska? Right? That's because Congress
gave the power to the president to create national monuments.
But a president can also take it away. President Trump
can say no, I de memorializing that monument.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
But you're right.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
The real answer should be Congress should pass a law
and it should choose what national monuments we're going.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
To have or not, where we're going to have drilling
for oil or not.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
But the problem is Congress doesn't want to take responsibility
for hard choices, and so instead they just say, we're
going to tell the president, here's all the power you
need to make clean air or clean water. You decided
what pollution should you decide whether we should have electric cars.
That's a real problem, but that's Congress has to do it.
Presidents can't make Congress do their job in a way, and.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Congress has this political incentive say keep.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Voting for me, and I'm going to give all this
power to the president and blame him if you don't
like it.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
I didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I find it ironic.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
And I said this to a friend of mine who
happens to be to the left of center a.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Couple days ago.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I think one of the most interesting things that may
come out of the second Trump presidency is that Congress
might begin to craw back their power, especially if the
Democrats take over any branches of government in the next
election cycle. But it would be ironic if having Trump
be a president who's acted so boldly in this way
ended up with a reallocation of those powers in a
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more proper way. In my opinion, I'm still mad that
Congress gave the power to declare war essentially to the
president back in the Bush administration. I'm still mad about that.
So we've seen this kind of creep for decades now
for the same reason that you just said. So, were
there any executive orders that stuck out to you as
being perhaps less likely to withstand a court challenge.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
You know, just coming to what you said, there is
a difference between the way progressives and conservatives I think
view government and I think what we have now, the
things you don't like about these executive orders and regulations.
That is progressive government. You know, Woodrow Wilson came up
with this, and generally progressive presidents Democrats have expanded this model,
which is Congress should give all its power to the agencies,
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and the agencies should be filled with scientists. We're going
to come up with the best rules, and we don't
want politicians anywhere near them. Doctor Fauci is like the
ultimate you know, this is the poster child for this
model of governing. Conservatives generally want to restore the original Constitution,
which is you go for people in Congress. They should
make the policies, the choices, and then the president just
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carries them out. So in terms of your more immediate question,
what issues are going to have run to trouble in
the court. So one thing is another thing the president
is allowed to do is he's allowed to have a
different view of the Constitution and the courts are Congress.
He's allowed to say, I want to get the Supreme
Court to review, to reconsider earlier cases. And so the
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only way you can do that is by taking a
different position than the Supreme Court. So for example, I
think the one he's going to run into the most
trouble is birthright citizenship. I think you know, President Trump
has said that illegal the children of illegal aliens born
in the United States are not going to be not
automatically citizens. The Supreme Court, there's a precedent called wing
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Wan kim Ark from the late nineteenth century that says, no,
the Fourteenth Amendment says if you're born inside the United States,
you're automatically a citizen. President Trump is certainly allowed to
say I want the Supreme Court to reconsider that and
decide whether they were wrong, and so to cause that
case to get up to Supreme Court. He could say
I'm going to order the government to give not give
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passports to the children of the legal aliens.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
He is certainly allowed to do that. And look, if.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
He said he was going to do this on the campaign,
trill people voted for him. He has democratic support to
try to get the Supreme Court to change his mind.
I don't think the Supreme Court, I don't think Chief
Justice Roberts and the Marine Court is going to vote
for a radical change in that. But other ones, I
think Trump's going to win on that. He's getting attacked
for right now. So for example, ending DEI, ending race
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based affirmative action, that's actually quite in keeping with the
way the Supreme Court's been going right this re Court
in the Harvard case said colleges shouldn't use race when
they make admissions decisions. I think Trump is going to
win on DEI, and he could do more. He could
also say. I think he's going to issue another executive
order soon that says, and anyone who receives money from
the federal government, anybody who's a contractor for the federal government,
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you can't use race either, and skin color either. And
I think the courts will agree with him in the end.
That's not the law right now. So Trump has to
keep pushing on it, and he's using executive orders to
do it.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
So I want to go back to the case that
you mentioned, because I was somewhat familiar with the case,
had never read the opinion, and the question I asked
you off the air that I think other listeners who
may be aware of that case as well is weren't
those people.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
In the country legally.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
So it's mostly as you shared with me off the air,
that the whole interpretation of the concept of legal versus
illegal immigration didn't even exist when that case was hurt.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
Yeah, the person there, wanken Mark, He's born in the
United States to two Chinese parents who are not American citizens.
There's no general federal immigration law in existence at this time,
so they didn't really even have this concept.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Of illegal and legal aliens.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
Instead, there had been a deal with China, and so
we passed something called the Chinese Exclusion Act, which actually
sought to bring immigration to China from China to US to.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Close to zero.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
But it said the people who are here now, they
can stay. So the court when it decides wankkim Ark,
it doesn't actually care about the legal status or not
of his parents. They just say the fourteenth Amendment says,
you're born in the territory of the United States, you're
a citizen automatically.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
And so that's why I you know.
Speaker 8 (43:19):
President Trump can say I disagree, I think your parents
should be citizens. That's why I'm predicting I don't think
he's going to win on that because this wank kim
Arc case has been around, you know, for about one
hundred and forty years now, one hundred and thirty years,
and I don't see this Supreme Court changing its mind,
but I could be wrong. I mean, maybe Trump will win,
and he's certainly titled to try to get the Court
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to reverse course.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I got a question from one of my listeners, and
it sort of goes to what you said before that
President Trump has his version of his interpretation of the Constitution.
Where's the other branches of government may have a different interpretation.
In that case, when you have different viewpoints, is the
Supreme Court the final arbiter or is there a way
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how does that work if everybody has a different view
of an issue.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
Constitutionally, this is a great question, and it goes back
to the founding. We've had this debate for the last
two hundred and thirty years and it's not settled. So
the Supreme Court today will say we have the power
to settle the constitutional questions. Supreme Courts in the past
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have not said that, and presidents and Congresses in the
past have said, no, the sup Re Court doesn't have
the final say I get to interpret the Constitution as
I wish when I carry out my duties. And you
know who most prominently said that, Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln
said the Supreme Court got it wrong in dred Scott.
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I think free blacks are citizens in the United States.
I think I am not returning people to slavery, and
so I disagree with dred Scott. He actually said, this
is funny. He said, you know it's called a Supreme
Court opinion. That means it's just their opinion. So he said,
the only thing I have to do is carry out
who wins and loses. But I as president, I will
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not obey dred Scott, and I think he was right,
and he's not alone. Thomas Jefferson said this. You know,
a Graham lead is Andrew Jackson FDR this. Presidents have
always made the case that Trump is making. Now I
have the right to interpret the costitution too, and maybe
ultimately it depends on the people, because ultimately we have
elections and then we can decide whose interpretation of the
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Costitution we ultimately agree with.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I would ask your thoughts specifically on the offers to
federal employees to basically take a buyout. Right, you can
quit by Thursday, and now it's been extended to Monday
as and you get paid till September. When we out
in the general public who work for large publicly traded
corporations who have seen people be laid off ruthlessly and mercilessly, you.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Know, in the private sector.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Why is that even that seems to me like the
government should have the right to make an offer of
that sort because it's a voluntary exchange. What is the
what are the grounds there that this is being challenged?
Speaker 4 (46:08):
And will will they hold up?
Speaker 8 (46:12):
You know, I have to say, Mannie, this is not
something I'm an expert on. Is you know, the internal
workings of you know, federal employment contracts. But I know
there is a lot of doubt about, uh, whether you know,
whether the government is compared to a company which is
allowed to do what at once? Right as long as
you just make a binding contract. It's not clear whether
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the federal government can keep paying people who aren't working.
Speaker 9 (46:38):
Right, you know that.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
I mean you think about it as a tax you know,
you're a taxpayer.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
I'm a taxpayer.
Speaker 8 (46:43):
Uh, you know, why should I give tax money the
federal government to turn around and pay people who aren't
showing up to work. So that's one problem. And then
the other problem is, you know, if they're really still
federal employees until you know, whatever time they stop, are
they allowed to go work for somebody else generally is
a taxpayer. If I'm being someone's salary, I don't want
them holding two jobs either, So no one. I just
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don't think this has ever been worked out before, because
this is a totally new proposal. But I know those
are going to be the legal issues. Is you know,
working for a government is different than working for their
private point. I wish the government worked like a private employer.
And this is Congress's fault because I think Congress has
placed so many rules and restrictions on what the government
can do that makes it hard for it to work
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efficiently like a company would.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
And I think that's a big part of what we're
seeing now.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
And honestly, I think that President I call it Trump
two point oh this administration is two point oh so
different than one point oh because he learned how intractable
government is, He learns how intractable Washington, d c.
Speaker 8 (47:45):
Is.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
And I actually think this is going to be a
lot of stuff that he is throwing against the wall,
knowing some of it isn't going to stand. But at
least we can begin to shake up the kind of
infrastructure that you're talking about right now that is impossible
to fire regardless of your job performance and all those
horror stories that we've seen, and frankly, I have friends
who work for the federal government that I imagine our
outstanding human beings and employees as well. It'll kind of
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be nice to separate maybe the week from the chaff
on that issue and see how all of that gets
sorted out. Because if the President is not successful in
sort of thinning the herd as they're trying to do
with USAID that organization, I'm concerned that there's not going
to be any way to have significant enough for reforms
that can do something that will make a big enough
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dent in our in our deficit spending.
Speaker 8 (48:35):
Well, the way I would look at it is, I
think President Trump has got to be right, and I
think if the polls I've seen show he has a
large part American people is can Congress force the government
to be inefficient, inefficient, and ineffective just like if President
Trump can as if Congress is saying, okay, build a
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bridge from A to B and spend five hundred million
dollars on it, and what if Trump comes back and says,
we figured out how to build a bridge for three
hundred million dollars. Is does a president have to burn
up two hundred million dollars and waste it? And I
think that's fundamentally the constitutional conflict here is Congress, of
course wants the president to waste money because Congress is
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trying to do favors for people, Yeah, and give out
more money than you need to. And so I think
that's what Trump's real argument is, and I think the
American people behind him is I want I'm not trying
to say I'm not going to spend the money. I'm
not going I'm trying to cancel laws. I'm trying to
say I'm running the government like a business efficiently and
effectively to save money for the American people.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Last question, one of my texters asked, what about Doge?
What about the operation being headed up by Elon Musk
that people on the left are freaking out about right
now because Will he's going after a lot of sacred cows.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
How how is that or is it not constitutional to
do what he's doing?
Speaker 9 (50:01):
Yeah, this is a.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Little bit complicated.
Speaker 8 (50:03):
I don't think right now Doge is violating any laws
because I don't think Elon Musk actually has the power
to order anyone to do anything.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
He's like an advisor.
Speaker 8 (50:15):
And you know, there's nothing that says the president can't say, oh,
I want this person to give me advice on what
to do. And then that person, you know, whoever that is.
Maybe it's the President himself, maybe it's a cabinet secretary.
That person then says, okay, close this office or has
changed this program. So Elon Musk is not shutting down USAID.
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Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, is shutting down Aid.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
I looked up the law.
Speaker 5 (50:40):
The law says.
Speaker 8 (50:41):
Usaid reports to the Secretary of State. Now, Mark Rubio
is allowed to listen to Elon Musk. It just allows
as long he can listen to our radio show right
now and take our advice too. Nothing in the constitution
prevents that. So as long as Doge stays in that
lane of looking at numbers, giving advice to president and
the cabinet. But they carry out the orders, they decide
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what to do, and I don't think it's I don't
think its a constitutional problem.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
He is a law professor at UC Berkeley.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
John Yu, great information, Thank you so much, and I
hope we can do this again in the future.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
Nice talking to you. I always happy to come back,
all right, have a great day. That is John Yu
a fascinating stuff. Just I mean the way that.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
A couple of things happening right now out of the
left that are that I think are pretty indicative of
the level of panic that is happening in the Democratic Party.
Number One, they have done a terrible job around finding
an attack point.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
They keep trotting out the old Project twenty twenty five. Guys,
let me just say this one more time.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Project twenty twenty five is a wish list of things
that conservatives have been advocating for for decades, since the
Reagan administration. None of these are pulled out of whole cloth.
None of these are surprising. If you go back and
if you can find any of the audio for my
two thousand and five radio show, you would have heard
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me saying I want someone to dismantle the Department of Education.
You know, I want someone to do these things. But
they haven't been able to congeal around an attack point.
You have some guy filing articles up impeachment that are
going nowhere, and at the same time they're trying to
make you think.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Elon Musk is a Nazi.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
They're trying to make you think that the crash that
occurred is somehow the Department of Transportation under Trump's faut.
As a matter of fact, when we get back, I
got to tell you, I'm pleased to say that Republicans
finally understand what it means and how to fight back effectively.
(52:52):
And I want to share a text exchange, a text,
a Twitter exchange between Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy and former
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
It is a scorcher when we get.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
Back between Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy and washed up
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. It started like this, Sean
Duffy tweets out from his secretary.
Speaker 4 (53:17):
Account, big news. Talk to the Doge team.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
They're going to plug in to help upgrade our aviation system.
Secretary Clinton thought it wise to quote tweet him with this.
They have no relevant experience, most of them aren't old
enough to rent a car, and you're gonna let the
mess with airline safety that's already deteriorated on your watch,
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to which Secretary Sean Duffy responded, Madam's Secretary, with all
due respect, experienced Washington bureaucrats are the reason our nation's
infrastructure is crumbling.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
You need to sit this one out. Not to be dissuaded.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Hillary Clinton comes back with US Airlines had gone sixteen
years without fatal crashes, then Magna fired the FAA chief,
gutted the Aviation Security Advisory Committee, and threatened air traffic
controllers with layoffs.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Now there have been two fatal crashes. Hope you're unvented.
Twenty two year olds fixed things fast.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
But Secretary Sean Duffy responds, I know you're lashing out
because DOGE is uncovering your family's obscene grifting during USAID,
but I won't let you lie and distort facts. The
FAA administrator announced he resigned over a month before Trump
took office, and the air traffic controllers were always exempt
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from Trump's civil service buyouts. The previous administration shamelessly use
DOT or us DOT as a slush fund for the
Green New scam, throwing away money and resources on wasteful
environmental and social justice projects rather than update our nation's
antiquated air traffic control systems and other critical infrastructure. I'm
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returning this department to its mission of safety by using
innovative technology and transportation and infrastructure.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
Your team had its chance and failed.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
We're moving on without you because the American people want
us to make America's transportation system great again.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
And yes, we're bringing the twenty two year olds with us.
You guys.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Oh that was hot, you know. And I jokingly say that.
I mean, I'm okay, I'm half joking. I'm joking a
little bit. But the reason I am joking about it
is because for a long long time, Republicans never fought back,
and this is how I like to see people fight back.
Speaker 4 (55:48):
There was no name calling there.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
He did point out that our family's grift had been exposed,
which is true, so we got that going, but he
didn't say anything that was just a personal attack.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
Just a true attack about the fact.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
That her family's been just grabbing money from the federal
government at every opportunity.
Speaker 4 (56:10):
So I just thought I would share that with you
because I liked it. Here's a sad story that I'm
kind of bummed out about.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
You know, the things that your mom used to tell
you when you were little to make you feel better,
and then you find out later that they're just complete fabrications,
that your mom just was throwing stuff against the wall.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
And see if it's six kind of thing. A friend
of mine, a friend of mine told me that.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
Her mom had this special sleep serum that when she
was really, really tired, but she couldn't go to sleep.
When she was little, her mom would come in and
she put a little of the sleep serum on her
pillow and then it would help her go to sleep.
And then when she's like fourteen, she couldn't sleep, and
she asked her mom, you know, mom, can you give
me some of the sleep serum? And her mom's like,
it was just perfume, you idiot, It was just perfume.
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Will you ever have your mom When it's cold outside,
your mom will be like, oh, have some hot chocolate,
it'll warm you up.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
Or when you get a little older, have some coffee,
it'll warm you up. And we actually buy into that.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
You know, when you're at a really cold event, you
get that cup of coffee and you're holding it in
your hands, you're drinking it, and you're like, ooh, this
will warm me up.
Speaker 5 (57:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
In University of Colorado, professor has ruined My childhood Doctor
Nathan Morris. He teaches human physiology at the University of Colorado, Colorado,
Springs decided to run an intricate study testing how body
temperatures respond to hot liquids. The answer is, he says,
will depend on the situation you're in. But most of
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the time, no, they don't warm you up. If you're
outside on a cold day, water based drinks or soups
will stop the symptoms of cold, but not actually raise
your body temperature. He said, you drink hot water, your
shivering reduces, your metabolic rate reduces, but your core temperature
isn't affected. Only our core temperature rarely changes.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
He said.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
The warm liquids may bump up your temperature a little
if you drink them before you go outside and put
your body under stress. But the old adage, the old adage. Yeah, Mandy,
did you see the earlier text when he told her
to sit this one out?
Speaker 4 (58:18):
I read that one too.
Speaker 3 (58:20):
Mandy stood up and clapped at Sean's posted response. Yes, indeed,
that's why I shared it with you. I knew you
guys would enjoy it as much as I did. It's
just nice to see people standing up and saying no,
you're wrong, and here's why, and the facts are on
our side. That's the other thing that's been happening. And
I started this conversation in the last hour, but I'm
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going to finish the thought now. The Democratic Party is
in such disarray that they're finding it difficult to attack
the policy issues, except for, of course, the shuddering of usaid.
You know, they land or rush out to have a
press conferences about that. They haven't had a press conference
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about a lot of stuff, but they had a press
conference about that, right, I mean, they rushed out to
make sure that they knew that you weren't happy about that.
Speaker 5 (59:12):
But the sort of.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
Vile personal attacks against the people that are doing this
are a little bit shocking. I don't know why I
should be used to this ready for it. I mean,
the reality is, and I thought about this yesterday, was
that people are angry that Elon Mudge, Elon Musk, and
these egghead kids, these crazy computer programmers are exposing all
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of this really indefensible spending at a time when we
are all facing higher prices. Everything is more expensive. People
are struggling to keep their heads above water, and then
they find out that the federal government is sending all
of this money to do these garbage programs, and yet
the Democrats are trying to get us to believe that
the people telling us how badly we're being ripped off
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by our own government.
Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
It's the government's not the problem.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
It's the people telling us about the government that are
the problem. And by the way, they've now doxed or
exposed the names of all of these kids that are
part of DOJE. If you go to certain reddit subreddits,
you're going to see people urging that they be killed.
They're getting death threats. Think about that for a second.
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Who is so threatened by the exposure of these programs
that a vast majority of Americans are looking at and going,
I'm sorry, what are we spending money on? What is
a scandal in Washington, DC is being applauded throughout the
United States of America. We're tired of taking the hit
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right the American people. We're tired of being the ones
told we need to sacrifice. We were told during COVID
if we didn't sacrifice by staying home, we were going
to be killing grandma. But at the same time, certain
corporations were given preferential treatment, whether they are vaccine makers
or they are large stores. When mom and pop shops
were put out of business and the American people are
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looking at this and going, it's about time that somebody
looked out for me and looked out for mine and
told these politicians that they can't do this anymore. And
the fact that Chuck Schumer is standing there defending all
of this indefensible spending and they don't even realize that
they've fallen into a trap.
Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
I just I'm my mind is blown by that.
Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
Mandy.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
The problem is, Mandy, I learned to lie way before
send me the link was a thing your friend Hillary.
Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Haha.
Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
I didn't know she had the text line number which
is always five six six nine. Oh, elon, muse, I
know I got tangled up in my words. There you
talk for a living fifteen hours straight a week, and
then you do it, okay, you do it without mistakes.
At twenty two, I was an Air Force officer in
no Rad with a nuclear mission. Not one of Hildeby's
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interns are without a clue. By the way, you know
what else I saw on X yesterday? And I should
have retweeted it so I could have it. Somebody shared
an article. Remember when we were told that Obama's youth
movement was the way to go all the twenty year
olds in the White House was just the that's the
wave of the future that we need to trust America's youth.
I mean, my goodness, this is the same party that
(01:02:26):
wants children to be able to decide to change their gender,
and now they're concerned that twenty one year olds are
looking at code in the Treasury.
Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
It is pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
You either think kids are smart enough to make all
decisions or you think kids are smart enough.
Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
To make no decisions.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Anyway, Mandy's it really worked to kill someone over a
freaking national kazoo band.
Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Yeah, they spent money on that too.
Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
At this point, nothing that I've seen about the spending
that we're seeing exposed surprises me. You know, Arod, we
made a terrible mistake. Terrible It's Super Bowl Friday. We
should have arranged to have our own version of Puppy
Bowl in the studio, you know, and just fill the
studio with puppies and just let them play.
Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Not bad idea. I mean, come on, are you showing
your lean what you're really going to be watching on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Uh No, But I just TMZ is on here in
one of the channels. It's on all the time of
the TVs. And they're talking about puppy Bowl right now,
and puppy Bowl is super cute, but.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
I don't want to watch puppies play. I want to
sit down on the floor and play with puppies. And
that's they're not offering.
Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
That.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Got a lot of text messages on the Common Spirit
Health text line. You can always text us five six
six nine, Oh Mandy, ask you anything?
Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
What is your favorite wing?
Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
I am a very simple wing person, and as a
matter of fact, I now make these baked twins wings
where you take wings and then you roll in in
a combination of baking powder, aluminum free baking powder and
salt in some seasonings just like Garlod powder and paprika
and your basics, and then you lay them out on
a cookie sheet and you dry them for like three
or four hours in the fridge. You just put them
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in there uncovered, let them, let them dry out a
little bit, and then you throw them in a four
fifty of it and they are crunchy, they have good snap,
but they're not fried. And then if I have any
kind of sauce, I'm really just gonna do like a
tie chili sauce.
Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
Yeah, I prefer the right one. The what the right wing?
The right wings typically where I like to go.
Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
The right wing. Okay, not that, there you go, I
like it. Uh, Mandy, you realize the puppy bowl is
not much of a radio thing. It would be for
me an a.
Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Rod Arc parkwoof, woof, I'll look, they're here.
Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
I'm going to do a whole show I have, guys.
This is this is how weird my brain is. You
want a little window right now?
Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
So since I was first in radio, I for some
reason wanted to do a show like a gag show
right where where? And now I can't do it because
I'm telling you guys about the gag. But I've never
been able to get anybody to agree to this series
of things where we just did one show where we
just had a bunch of guests on that were all
visual jokes, like we have someone come on that's a juggler,
(01:04:59):
and we have someone that comes on that does card tricks,
and we have someone that comes on, and like every
guest on the show would be something visual that just
would not work on radio.
Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
And I've never.
Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Been able to pull it off. And now I can't
because you guys would see it coming. I don't know
why this is what, this is what I think about.
I am sorry. I'm very sorry about that, Mandy. Remember
they poops too, the puppies. Well, I have a box
of those puppy pads. So my view would be I
lay down the puppy pads all over the floor and
then unleash the puppies onto the puppy pads. I think
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I would be okay with it, Mandy. Have you seen
the documentary about constipation?
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Probably not. It hasn't come out yet.
Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
M m h.
Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
It's also asked me anything, Mandy. I'm in a client's
house who has a one week old puppies. Mama is
a rescue foster all.
Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
I love that, Mandy.
Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
It's disingenuous of the Democrats to disparage Doge and Elon
Musk when the Biden administration was effectively run by faceless
bureaucrats since Joe was mentally absent.
Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Exactly right, Mandy.
Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
So far, I've only heard about Democrat created programs that
have been wasteful. Are there any Republican created ones that
have been found that are wasteful? Also that from no
codein guys, I have seen so much stuff online that
people are sending out like, oh, look at this, look
at this, But I have verified I haven't been sharing
that stuff. I'm sure a lot of them are true,
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but I wonder if some of them are being padded
so I don't know. And if there are Republican generated
idiotic programs that we're wasting money on, I want them
to crash and burn. I don't care who creates this
wasteful spending.
Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
It all needs to go.
Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Mandy, do you think if they dump some of these
ridiculous projects that the government is spending money on, it
will cover the tariff taxes so prices for just about
everything doesn't go up for the normal America and citizen.
Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
I am not convinced that we are going to have tariffs.
I've said before, I say it again.
Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
I think the threat of tariffs is a starting negotiating
point for Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Mandy or a Rod.
Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
If you've seen that video of people on a talk
show that all have funny laughs, it's hilarious. You should
look it up. I love a funny laugh. I have
an aunt with like one of those booming funny laughs
that makes everybody else around her laugh, And I love it.
If you have, if you have a loud, distinctive laugh,
don't ever be afraid of it. Don't ever be shy
about it, because chances are you're making other people laugh too. Uh,
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Mandy A Rod is a toddler. Please keep him away
from the wing conversation. He made a very funny joke
that he likes right wing. Get it, right wing?
Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Get it?
Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
I you just made it even deeprit even think about
it like that. Literally, it was just going airplane wing.
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
No, that was funny.
Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I thought it was funny as.
Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
You were.
Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
You were, you're a poet. You didn't even know.
Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Now, there you go.
Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
I'm gonna ask me anything.
Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
When you were a kid, did you have one of
those kid toyless toy wireless microphones?
Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
And did you have a pretend talk show?
Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Guys, It never occurred to me that I could be
in talk radio until I met a man on an
airplane who told me that I should be in radio
or television.
Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Never even occurred to me that I could do this job.
Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
There was no women on the radio at all when
I was a kid, not even on the music stations.
Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Literally, no women. It never occurred to me that this
could be a job that I could do.
Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Until someone said you should think about doing this job.
Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
So yeah, it wasn't me. I wanted to be president, grew.
Speaker 8 (01:08:33):
Out of that.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
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Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
Come up at two thirty. We are going to talk
to Complete Colorado Sherry Pife about this wild ass story
out of the Denver DIA's office.
Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
It is a hashtag me too story, only.
Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
It's not what you might think, and it's ended up
in the disbardment of one of their attorneys.
Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
It is like a lifetime freaking movie. We'll talk to
her at two thirty.
Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
I saw a story this morning that in the grand
scheme of the front range doesn't really matter at all, right,
but I want to share with you anyway, because it's
going to watch my one of my most passionate beliefs.
Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
And it has to do with early childhood education.
Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
They are considering out in Pitkin and Garfield Counties creating
a special taxing district to boost support for early childhood education. Now,
the notion about child early childhood education is this the
standard line. The standard line is kids don't all have
the same upbringing, which is true. Your vocabulary as a
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small child is often determined in large part by your
parents' socioeconomic status and education. And what they find is
the kids from poverty come to kindergarten with a vocabulary
that is a fraction of the number of words that
kids from even upper middle class and above households. They
just don't get talked to, they don't get read to
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in the same way, and it's a terrible situation. So
the thinking is is that if you create a robust
early education system, then you will be able to help
these kids that are come into kindergarten behind start with
their peers.
Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
It sounds perfectly logical and rational, doesn't it. I mean,
who would argue against that?
Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Well, a lot of people don't know that the federal
government itself did a longitudinal study of head Start and
its effectiveness on student achievement. Headstart is the program that
promises to provide high quality preschool to kids living in poverty.
Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Again, sounds like a great idea.
Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
You know, our children in the future, we should do
whatever we want whenever we need to to make sure
that they have the best chance of success in school.
So back in two thousand and seven or two thousand
and eight, the federal government commissioned a longitudal study to
follow students starting at three years old and following them
through the third grade. Now, the initial study was done
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after they went from preschool to kindergarten. They were tested
at the beginning of preschool and then when they were
tested when they got to kindergarten to see the effects
of head start interventions on their success.
Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
And I knew about the study because I was a
talk show host.
Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
And I paid attention and I interviewed multiple people about it,
and they were like, oh, the study is you know,
we're excited to see the kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Gains and what means for kids long term, and blah
blah blah. So I was waiting. I knew the study
was over.
Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
I knew that they had already had that enough years
and that the study had been completed.
Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
And I was waiting for the results. And I was waiting,
and I was waiting and I and I was waiting
for the results and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting,
And they released the results of this.
Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
On a Friday before holiday weekend in January of twenty ten,
and I was like, they released like five pm on
a Friday afternoon, and I was like, hmm, that smells
like they want to bury this story.
Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
So I read the study, and the study showed. Let
me just read to you what this study showed.
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
This is testing children after they got done with two
years of high quality preschool. And by the way, they
had a control group of kids who were not in preschool.
So some of those kids were just in daycare, right,
daycare being occupied the children, but you're not necessarily invested
in educating the children. Although I'm not saying it doesn't
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take place at daycare, but you know what I mean.
The endgame is different. So they had kids they either
stayed home with their parent or parents, or kids that
went to daycare, and then kids that were in head
start programs.
Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
And this is what they found.
Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
The advantages children gained during their time and Headstart and
up to age four yielded only a few statistically significant
differences in outcomes at the end of first grade for
the sample as a whole. So the actual changes were
so almost statistically insignificant that they were not impressive, but
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there were some There were some positive changes by the
end of first grade. Only a single cognitive impact was
found for each cohort. That means learning by the end
of first grade. There was some evidence that the head
start group and the three year old cohort had closer
and more positive relationships with their parents than the control group.
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For the four year old a cohort, there was an
impact on child health insurance coverage at the end of
first grade. I don't know how they credited had start
with that, but whatever, And then they talked about for
parenting outcomes.
Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
For the three year old.
Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Cohort, there were favorable impacts on use of time out
and authoritarian parenting at the end of first grade. Specifically,
those favorable impacts consisted of less use.
Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Of time out and spanking.
Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
For the four year old cohort, there were no significant
parenting practices impacts in first grade. So all this is like, Okay,
you're spending all this money on early childhood education and
now the federal government is saying it doesn't make that
much of a difference.
Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Well, what about in the future.
Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
If you look to another study that is not nearly
as easy to find as the first study. They went
back and checked with students at third grade to see
how a high quality preschool education impacted kids going forward,
and here's the summary. In summary, there were initial positive
impacts from having access to head Start, but by the
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end of third grade, there were very few impacts found
for either cohort in any of the four domains of cognitive, social,
emotional health, and parenting practices. The few impacts that were
found did not show a clear pattern of favorable or
unfavorable impacts for children. So by the government's own research,
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head start does not help children succeed long term.
Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
And why do I bring this up. It's not because
I hate preschool. I really don't. But let's call it
what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
It is glorified daycare, and we're paying people who are
highly educated to provide glorified daycare for parents. And if
we're going to spend this kind of money under the
guise of helping children succeed, then let's take all of
that money away from preschool and put it into interventions
in elementary school and middle school.
Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
That could have a much greater impact long term, like
making sure kids can read.
Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
What if we took the money that we're wasting on
head Start and we plug that money into reading supports
and math supports for children in elementary school, and as
soon as kids started to fall behind, they were essentially
given a tutor that can work with them, or maybe
a small group of children that are starting to fall
behind to make sure that they don't fall further behind,
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make sure.
Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
That they get the testing that they need.
Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Maybe they're finding out they're dyslexic and we need to
make sure that that kind of testing is available to
make sure kids are getting the interventions that they need.
Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
But do it when it could have lasting impacts.
Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
We already know the head Start in preschool programs don't
make a difference. And yet if you go look at
what the Department of Education is trying to do, they're
trying to expand headstart.
Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Why would they do this?
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Why would they do something that their own research clearly
shows does not work? And it's two words, my friends,
teachers' unions. This is the kind of government waste that
somebody needs to stop when we know that we're not
getting the outcomes that we desire, and know we are spending.
Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Gobs and gobs and gobs of money on it. This
is the kind of stuff that makes me crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
When the government itself says, oh that program doesn't work,
we just double down.
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
It makes no sense. Did you see this about Antonio Brown?
A Rod?
Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
What?
Speaker 8 (01:17:21):
Now?
Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Legendary NFL wide receiver Antonio.
Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Brown is broke?
Speaker 10 (01:17:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
WHOA?
Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
I know you're shocked. You should see a Rod shocked face.
It looks just like his normal face. The former Pittsburgh
Steelers Starr confirmed that he has filed for bankruptcy after
spending all of his career earnings. He originally filed for
Chapter eleven bankruptcy in May of twenty twenty four due
to debts and lawsuits. He said at the time he
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was filing in order to restructure his finances and repays debts,
and during a Podcast with a podcast appearance, he recalled
how much money he made in his career and how
none of it is left. He said, I think I
made one hundred million if you count off the field.
The podcast host asked, how much did you spend of
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that one hundred million? Brown responded, well, I just filed
Chapter eleven bankruptcy, so I spent all of it.
Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
I blew all of my money. I blew everything.
Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Brown claimed that all of his NFL earnings were taken
away and put it accounts for his future generations and said,
I just had my fun my people in my life.
They just took the money I made in the NFL
and they didn't make that money mine no more. They
put it away from my family, generations, the trusts. They
just threw it out there. So whatever I made in football,
I just saved it for my family generation, my kids kids.
Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
But if he doesn't have any money left, I mean, this.
Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Is one of those I mean, how often do we
hear these kind of stories, you know, where people just
blow through money. And this is one of those things
where I actually had someone say to me and they
said it with a straight face. They were like, you
know what, I don't think i'd want to win the
lottery because you hear about all these lottery winners who
win the lottery and.
Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Then they end up broke.
Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
And I'm like, that's because they don't change their name
and going to witness protection. That's because they don't immediately
take that check to a financial advisor and say, okay,
let's work together to make this more money. And the
problem is is that when you get what's what feels
like free money. And I know his NFL, he put
his body on the line every single day and all
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that stuff, But that's not what I'm talking about. But
the commercial money, the endorsement money, it feels like free money, right,
And you're not as careful as free money as you
are with money you earn. And to prove my point,
if you ever found like five.
Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Bucks on the sidewalk and you're like, whooo, I got
five dollars, it isn't accounted for.
Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
One time, when I was super broke, I found forty
dollars in the parking lot of a store and I
took it in. I tried to do the right thing
because I am that person, and I took it in
to the guy at the counter and I said.
Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Hey, I found this forty bucks in the parking lott.
Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
He goes, Man, there's a zero percent chance that we're
gonna get that back to the right person, So just
keep it.
Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Just keep the money.
Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
I don't know if I look especially pathetic, I don't know,
but man, I was broke at this time, like one
of those you know periods where you're like trying to
make your rent. Do you think I did anything responsible
with that money?
Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
No, I did not. I went out to dinner with
my friends because it was free money.
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
And I think a lot of these people that grow
up in poverty, and I'm assuming Antonio Brown grew up
in poverty. I don't know his full life story. They
don't know any money management skills, and one hundred million
dollars seems like an infinite amount of money when you're poor.
I mean, my god, you guys, one hundred million dollars
sounds like an infinite amount of.
Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Money for me, doesn't it to you?
Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Like I can't even imagine how I would spend one
hundred million dollars. But Antonio Brown is just proven.
Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
And is not that hard.
Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
I've had conversations with professional athletes over the years, and
one of the things that I've had multiple athletes, and
they're all African American athletes who came from extremely disadvantaged backgrounds,
and they have said some variation of the hardest thing
I've ever had to do in my life is tell
my friends and family know, because if I didn't, I
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would have nothing left. Because to them, one hundred million dollars,
you're never going to run out of money, and if
you don't share them or help them, or you get
them out of a bind or take them on vacation,
it gets really challenging. Some of those interpersonal relationships become
a problem.
Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
It's just kind of sad. I mean, I get it,
but it's just kind of sad.
Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
And Antonio Brown has been such a mess for so
long that this is honestly like the least surprising thing ever,
it really really is. I feel bad for the guy.
I feel bad for anybody who burns to a fortune
and doesn't really have the means to make another one.
I've known business people who have sold companies from millions
and millions of dollars and then started a new venture
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and lost everything, but because of their business acumen, they
were able to start another venture after that that ended
up being successful, so they made a lot of money.
And then they started another adventure and then they lost
a lot of money, but they had the ability to
go out and make a lot of money again. I
don't think Antonio Brown has that. I mean, what are
you going to hire him to do cause problems in
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the workplace. It's just a sad story. This is why
I think that every and I don't know, maybe they
have them. I think every professional team should have an
entire team of people that just works with young athletes
to help them understand how money works, how to spend it,
how not to spend it, to make sure that even
after their career is over, they're taken care of for
the rest of their lives. And not every player has
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that luxury, because not every player makes one hundred million dollars.
But this kind of stuff just should never happen. But
then again, you can lead a horse to water, but
you can't make him think what a rod does that
you guys don't know about. I thought I scheduled Sherry
Pife to come on the show, but I never actually
confirmed with her, and now we can't get ahold of
her bout talk about her story anyway.
Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
But this is why I don't schedule things.
Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
This is why a rod handles the back end stuff
that I obviously am competent to handle. Although I did
successfully schedule several people.
Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
For like the next few days.
Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Whoa I know, we got Representative Jeff Crank coming on
next week, and it's.
Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Like, you've done my position before.
Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
Well I have, but not it's been a long time
and I'm just bad at it.
Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
But let me tell you about this story by Sherry,
and if she brings us back, we'll just get her
on the air. But I have to talk about this
because this is absolutely crazy. This is on Complete Colorados
dot com their original reporting. Sherry Pife has done a
fantastic article about this.
Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
This is almost like when you hear.
Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
We've had several stories lately that I think would make
an excellent movie. The dentist who killed his wife like
the worst criminal ever. Fascinating story. I think that would
make a great lifetime movie. Now we have another contender,
a a former prosecutor for the Denver District Attorney's office,
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and I don't know how to pronounce her name.
Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Her first name. Her name is you why wait yu
ji n Eugene Choi. And back in.
Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Twenty twenty two, she was fired after an internal investigation
into a story that she started by accusing a fellow
attorney of sending her a sexually charged text message. She
went out to happy hour with some colleagues, or went
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out with some colleagues and showed them screenshots that were
allegedly from a colleague of hers named Brian Hines. She
told them that he sent her a text message calling
her a sex doll, and she showed it to her
superiors and investigation got started, and that's when things got
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really interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
So mister Hines.
Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Immediately denied any kind of inappropriate text messages, and the
text message in question said this, Eugene, please stop talking
about what I didn't do to our colleagues. You're using
your looks against innocent people. If you want to act
like a sex doll to get a.
Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
Sugar daddy, fine, but that will not be me.
Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Miss Choice claimed that she deleted the messages, but she
had screenshots of them. She showed them to our supervisor
and investigation started and they said, okay, mister Hines, we're
going to need you to give us your cell phone
and your computer, and we're going to need Miss Troy,
We're going to need you to do the same thing. Well,
mister Hines turned over his call logs from Verizon and
they did not show any.
Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Text messages to Miss Choi.
Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Both Hines and Choi initially consented to allow investigators to
extract messages from their phones, and Choi even said, look,
you can get evidence.
Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
From my laptop.
Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
However, on the Friday before Miss Choi was supposed to
turn over her electronics, she was nervous.
Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
She was anxious, and the next day she claimed she drew.
Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Herself a bath to relax, but accidentally dropped her phone
in the tub, and then shortly after she was so
rattled she dropped an open.
Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
Bottle of water all over her.
Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Laptop, rendering both pieces of electronics useless for the purpose
of extraction. On the next Monday, she was light as
a feather, laughing, joking, giddy. A few days later, investigators
got subpoenas to acquire the records directly from Verizon.
Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
Which proved that mister Hines never sent any of those
messages to Choi.
Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Rather, the Verizon records showed that Choi both sent and
received SMS messages at the times in question.
Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
What has happened to miss Choi? Now she has finally
been disbarred.
Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Judge Large, he is the providing disciplinary judge for the
Colorado Supreme Court, issued a disbarment ruling against Ushen Choi,
and she will not practice law anymore. By the way,
it took two years for this investigation to work its
way through, so she could be disbarred. By the way,
Dan Hines, a criminal investigator in the office, was reassigned
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to another area so we wouldn't have to see his accuser.
And this has created I mean, can you imagine when
accused of this kind of stuff, This creates a huge mess,
and it's terrible for the men who are accused.
Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
This is why years ago when we hashtag me too.
Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
What was going on, and everybody was like, we have
to believe all women and I was like, mm no,
because women can lie. Women wield that power and they
can lie, and this is a perfect example of it.
Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
I feel sorry for this guy.
Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
I hope he is fully exonerary and this doesn't continue
to follow him. And what's fascinating is that in the
dispartment ruling, the judge determined that Mschoi manufactured four text messages,
disseminated them to several coworkers and supervisors while falsely asserting
the messages were from Hines, altered her Verizon wireless message
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log and destroyed her phone and laptop to avoid having
them examined.
Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
I mean, you guys, this woman is a prosecutor.
Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
What is happening in Colorado that we have these women
in powerful positions that just do this crazy stuff and
expect not.
Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
To get caught.
Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
You got Robin Nesita, who, after being busted for making
a fake child abuse call to her own agency, faked
brain cancer to get out.
Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Of being prosecuted and use Google.
Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Images on her so called a documentation of said brain cancer.
Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
What is wrong with these people? Women are crazy? Completely crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Mandy, the next few days or Saturday and Sunday, I
hope you didn't schedule any guests for those days. We'll
find out, won't we Later Later, Mandy, it gets funnier.
I don't know what that's funnier for what. Oh yeah,
that was a continuation of the story. So yeah, that's
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that's the thing that's happening right now. Oh wait a minute, hmmm, Hey,
ron As, I'm sitting here talking another guest that I
thought was scheduled for tomorrow thinks he's scheduled for today.
So I'm gonna afford you this and you can fix
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that mistake, Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:29:46):
Get it together. I put this one on the calidar
though four day, I know, and it all falls apart.
Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
And there's certain things that I'm good at organization and scheduling.
Is that the not even on the list, not even
a little bit. He's the stat guy for the super Bowl,
and I want I have him on the calendar for tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (01:30:04):
Oh what's his name?
Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
Yeah? I just lost winer.
Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah yeah, so I have month for tomorrow afternoon coordinate
his game for Well, you can't give him a ring.
Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
I just said, you was numb right now? Yeah? Noell, Yeah,
I mean it's got time. Yeah, we got time. I
get it.
Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
I actually know I want to see him for tomorrow
because I want more time with him because I got
a bunch of questions.
Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Tomorrow is Saturday. Oh god, I'm gonna get him on
right now. How about that?
Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
That's fine, you guys. Is anybody else this bad? That stuff?
Any anyone else? Because I I just this.
Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
People laugh when I say, you have no idea the
stuff that day Rod has to.
Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Put up with? Is it busy?
Speaker 8 (01:30:47):
He?
Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
I do know.
Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
I think he was getting to New Orleans yesterday, so yeah,
he could be a little slammed.
Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
I'll keep trying.
Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
We got time. It's onty, I know we got time
is coming to play out the day in like ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
We have a break on for I responded to the
email and said, hey, we're calling you right now. So
hopefully he'll pick up and go from there. But you guys,
this is just and here's the best part about these
spectacular failures of mine. They're on the radio, so I
can't even pretend like they didn't happen. I can't even
be like, Nah, that didn't happen. Nahh it did, it
all happened.
Speaker 4 (01:31:18):
It all came crashing down right around me.
Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Jeez, little women. I was told all women are bipolar
or bisexual. I don't think I'm either of those things.
I think I'm terrible at organization and possibly on the
autism spectrum. But no, and to the text or please
share your stash, Mandy, Oh, I wish that was the
reason I do this. I put that into the same
category of stuff that like learning names. I think that
(01:31:45):
there's a certain like organizational technical part of your brain
that's responsible for things like organization, remembering names, remembering phone numbers.
That part of my brain is on permanent vacation. Just
check out, absolutely checked out. Yeah no, I don't again,
(01:32:08):
I don't have a stash. Got to be the altitude sickness,
that's that's probably it. I've been living here and joining
me now a man you know from his work on
the Broncos broadcast for many years now, and he will
be assisting the Spanish language broadcast for the Kansas City
Chiefs for the second year in a row.
Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Rick Winer, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 9 (01:32:27):
Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to be with me, Mandy.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Well, I'm sorry I'm calling you so late, but in
my mind you were coming on on Friday, and today
is clearly Thursday, So just kidding, sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Read No, I want to ask you. How did you
get into stats.
Speaker 9 (01:32:44):
Or I believe it or not. It started when I
was fifteen years old and I simply went into the
high school football coaches office and offered to the city
if they needed anyone to help with stats. And I
got this look like I had just gotten off of
the UFO, because they'd never had anybody, let alone as
(01:33:05):
students at the school come in with that kind of
a request. And the coach said to me, may by
all means, we'll give you a playbook. You can start
the plays come with us to all the road games too,
And that kind of got it going for me, and
then I started working that same fall at the Chiefs games.
(01:33:25):
I'm from Kansas City originally, and I got a chance
to work in the press box with the public relations director.
And you know, when Arrowhead was built, I did the
statistics for the storeboard when the stadium first opened. I've
been sort of doing this company ever since. Even used
to do play by play back in college on the
campus radio stations.
Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Well, yeah, certainly have a radio voice, but you have
a real profession, Like, you have a real job that's
outside of this, don't you.
Speaker 9 (01:33:51):
Yes, I do have a day job that takes me
to you know, some fun stuff that I've been working on.
I'm a psychiatrist, been in private practice forty years, and
I always tell people that are doing stats and games
has been my therapy all these years. So I think
it works out pretty well and my patients really get
(01:34:11):
a kick out of it. Because I have a lot
of sports memorabilia in my office. I really do have
some psych books in there as well, but they're far
more entertained by what I've brought back from games, whether
it's a bobblehead or a program or flip or whatever.
So it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
It seems to me that as a as a sports fan,
the sort of stats that we used to gather have
expanded dramatically.
Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
Is that accurate? Or am I just learning about some
of those stats that were there?
Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Right?
Speaker 9 (01:34:39):
You're right, And in some of the stats there are
just so many abbreviation it's almost impossible to keep up
with them. And one of the things that I try
to do, and I'm doing stats in the game, is
try to keep it fairly simple. You know, what are
the numbers that help tell the story of the game,
And you want it to be not only accurate, but
you want it to be concise, and you want it
(01:34:59):
to be understandable when it's conveyed by the announcers to
the people who are listening or watching. So there's so
much out there. But I'm doing a lot of this
on the fly as the game is going on, So
I do my homework, but I'm really looking for a
lot of different things during the course of the game
as well.
Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
What are some of your favorite sort of obscure statistics
that you just personally enjoy that maybe you don't share
as much.
Speaker 9 (01:35:28):
Well, I mean, the Super Bowl sort of has its
own set of statistics, and I've compiled my own record
books and might say that goes beyond what the NFL
generally provides in the postseason media guide, but there are
some fun ones. I mean, for one thing, we never
had a punt return for a touchdown in the Super Bowl.
That been five hundred and thirty six punts and not
a one of them has been returned for a touchdown.
(01:35:50):
And yet there have been three blocked punts that have
been returned for touchdowns, So that's kind of unusual.
Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
That's very cool.
Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Do you think that the new kickoff rules made more
or less more a fewer returns for a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
On the kickoffs.
Speaker 9 (01:36:06):
Were on kickoffs, you know, we've had some kickoffs that
have been returned for touchdowns and the Super Bowl, but
no punts. But I think what's also happened. I think
the punters have gotten so good. I think they punt
the ball so high anymore these days. And also the
spinning and a lot of them are the kind of
the Australian rules guys who come over and they've become punters,
(01:36:27):
and I think the spin on the ball makes a
difference as well. So there are a lot of things
that have contributed that, and certainly the rules on the kickoff,
although we now have the ball if it's a touch
back in the end zone. On a kickoff, it comes
after the thirty yard line, so a lot of teams
figure out to take the ball to thirty right enough
for me and go from there. So we've had like
(01:36:50):
sixty five percent of the kickoffs resulted in touchbacks during
the regular season, and that wasn't a whole lot different
than it had been when the rules were for you
to kick off from the thirty instead of the thirty five.
Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Are there any sets that you feel are more useful
in determining whether a team is as good as you
think or a player is as good as you think
than others.
Speaker 9 (01:37:13):
There are certain ones that sort of jump out at me.
And just with the Super Bowl in mind, the turnover
ratio continues to be such an important statistic. I mean,
in the Super Bowls, what we've had with fifty eight
of them so far, and there have been thirty nine
times that the team with the better turnover ratio has
(01:37:35):
won the game and only six times as the team
lost when they've had the better ratio. But that also
means that we've had thirteen games when it was even.
But that's still a very telling statistic. As his points
off turnovers, and it's a trend that we're continuing to
see here in the postseason. The twelve teams that have
(01:37:55):
won postseason games so far are plus twenty one in
the turnover ratio. WHOA, so they have the winning teams
have twenty five takeaways, the losing team's only four, and
those four takeaways by the losing teams came in just
two games. Three of the four came in the first
(01:38:17):
game of the postseason, when Houston had three turnovers and
still won the game against the Chargers, and then the
Chiefs had one turnover against Buffalo, the only game in
the postseason, by the way, so far that the winning
team has had a losing turnover ratio.
Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
That's because the Chiefs always find a way. It feels like,
I mean, that's what separates the good from the great,
you know, it really does. What are some of the
stats that you personally feel maybe over relied on by,
because I feel like there's two different kinds of stats,
right there's fans stats where you just want to find
out how your team did and how your favorite players did,
and then there's like analyst stats where they're trying to
(01:38:57):
figure out, you know, statistically, what the best moves on
the team are what do you find to be I mean,
do you feel like the NFL maybe is relying too
much on stats.
Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
Or not enough.
Speaker 9 (01:39:10):
I mean, it's gotten to the point it almost feels
like they really too much. But I don't think so.
And I think one of the trends that we've seen
here in recent years, based on some of the analytics
that have been done, you see teams going forward on
fourth down. What used to I mean, to me, that's
a big change. If it was fourth and one, it's like, well,
were either punting the ball or we're going to try
(01:39:31):
a field goal. We think we got a shot at it.
But now teams are going forward on fourth and four
and more than five from midfield or sometimes even in
their own territory. So I think that's been a dramatic change.
Just to give you an idea, I mean, so far
in the postseason, the winning teams are sixteen of twenty
on fourth down.
Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
Wow, that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 9 (01:39:53):
But the losing teams are fifteen out of twenty nine.
So it's not like they've been bad. It's just you know,
here we are twelve games in postseason play, and there
have been forty nine fourth down attempts already, which is
sort of mind boggling.
Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
Rick Winer is my guest.
Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
He is going to be doing the stats for the
Kansas City Chief Spanish language broadcast.
Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
Do you speak the Espaniel, Rick.
Speaker 9 (01:40:17):
Pekita?
Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
You know?
Speaker 10 (01:40:18):
I mean.
Speaker 9 (01:40:20):
My six years of French are of limited value during
the broadcast. Thank goodness, the announcers I work with are bilingual,
so I can give them the information in English. I'm
pretty decent on numbers in Spanish, and I find myself
every now and then just sort of lapsing into giving
them yardage of a play in Spanish. But thank goodness,
(01:40:41):
they can take my information in English and go from there.
Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
I really appreciate you making time for us today, Rick,
and have a fantastic time doctor Rick Weiner. He's our
stats guy for the Broncos. He's working for the enemy
this weekend. But we'll forgive him for that. Rick, fas
for your time today, have a great one.
Speaker 10 (01:40:58):
Man.
Speaker 9 (01:40:58):
Enjoyed the Super Bowl, Thank you so much, many pleasure
being with you.
Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
And now another nerd joining me. It's Ryan Edwards, everybody,
because now it's time for the most exciting segment all
the radio of the sky.
Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
Of the day. All right, what is our word of
the day? Please?
Speaker 5 (01:41:20):
Word, I'm a joke. Get it together.
Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
You need a week, I'm telling you, I'm I'm just
having trouble.
Speaker 6 (01:41:26):
Well, it's a perfect time to this dad joke, because
as an American, I am tired of people saying America
is the stupidest country in the world. Personally, I think
Europe is the stupidest country in the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
That's that's uh, that's that's a thing that happened there.
All right, Now, what is our word of the day, please?
Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
It's a now, not even gonna try.
Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
Malapropism.
Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Malapropism that is when you get you mess up a
phrase or a word, or you misuse a word in
a way. Named after Miss malaprop from some play I can't.
Speaker 5 (01:41:58):
Remember allapropism you agree, I love? Yeah, Well, amusing error
that occurs when a person mistakenly uses a word.
Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
That sounds like another word but that has a very
different meaning.
Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
And it's named after a character named Miss Malapropety. Richard
Grisley shared in seventeen seventy play.
Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
That sounded like a smart alec answer that someone goes.
Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
In No, I actually knew that somehow in my brain?
Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
What is our or I have trivia and God bless
here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
Stalactites and stalagmites are two types of mineral formations that
appear in caves. What's the difference between a stalactite and
a stalagmite?
Speaker 5 (01:42:40):
One's taking from the ceiling ones coming from correct?
Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
I'm well done, Ryan Edwards.
Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Stalactites hang from the cave ceiling and often have pointed tips,
while stalagmites grow from the cave floor and have rounded
or flattened tips.
Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
There, that's the thing you know now, all right?
Speaker 10 (01:42:55):
Spend a lot of time at those are some famous
caves down in New Mexico, very long time being.
Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
A nerd like me? Does that too?
Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
Correct? Anyway? What is happening with our Jeopardy category? Please?
Speaker 5 (01:43:05):
Super Bowl halftime show?
Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Boy?
Speaker 5 (01:43:09):
Really many?
Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Okay, we'll see. We'll see. As could go either way.
Speaker 6 (01:43:13):
With Radio City Music Hall producing the show in nineteen
eighty eight, it's no surprise that it featured these dancers.
Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Were the rocket That is correct?
Speaker 5 (01:43:23):
I feel like we've done this one, but we're doing
it again.
Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
I don't remember the rockets answer In nineteen.
Speaker 5 (01:43:27):
Ninety eight, Smokey Robinson and the temptation. What is Motown? Correct?
Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
Ryan Edward's well done.
Speaker 6 (01:43:34):
She let up the halftime show in twenty fifteen with
a fireworkal.
Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
Who's Katy Perry jub.
Speaker 5 (01:43:40):
Was it this one? We'll do it? It can't.
Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
They started the halftime show in two thousand and six
with starting up Who's the Rolling Show?
Speaker 5 (01:43:48):
Look at you?
Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Ryan?
Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Tie t you here we go.
Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
Many of the early shows, introducing the first one featured
this Louisiana School's famous marching man?
Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
What is l s U?
Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
Whoa? I have no idea? Oh, dang it Ryan with
the dang it, dang it?
Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
And if we did have that category, obviously I didn't
remember it. What's coming up today on your Super Bowl
show preview thing there?
Speaker 10 (01:44:16):
Yeah, we have Rick Lewis's shooting, which is always a
great time.
Speaker 5 (01:44:18):
And yeah, we'll talk about the super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (01:44:20):
We'll talk about Pastor Tan winning defensive players Super cool
for him.
Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
What a nice honor for Pat Just a nice honor.
Speaker 10 (01:44:27):
The brothers did a really cool thing. We're gonna play
it here. In the first segment, they interviewed his dad,
his mom, Peyton Manning, Sean Payton, a bunch of players,
and yeah, they made a silly reel like three minutes.
Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Of them all, Oh my gosh, did it get you?
Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
You got you got to get you? All right, that's
all coming up next.
Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
I'll be back on Mondays since today is indeed Friday
instead of Thursday.
Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
Keep it right here on KOA
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