03-05-25 FULL SHOW - Drag Out The Dead Horse, Plus An Inventor Changes Tinnitus

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, no, it's Mandy Connell, Andy Conall on KOLA.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
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sad bab Welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Welcome to a Wednesday edition of the show. Trastday and
My Neighborhood. Shannon Scott in for Anthony Rodriguez until he
turns into a pumpkin and Grant Smith appears in his stead.
It's gonna be a little producer roulette today. I'm okay
with it. I hope you guys are too. What a
dang twenty four hours this has been still going on.

(00:47):
As soon as Representative Gabe Evans begins to question Mayor
Mike Johnston in the House Committee hearing, we will jump
into that for sure. This morning the mayor was being
grilled on Capitol Hill. But I had no idea, no
clue that out of four mayors, he was gonna be

(01:09):
the second best.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Eric Adams just fell on his sword like immediately out
of the shoot, like I'm so sorry. We're gonna cooperate
with the federal government. On all immigration issues. I mean,
he was just like, Yep, we're gonna, we're gonna. We
got your back, Uncle Sam and us we be mates,
you know. I mean, he just he just bamed me.
Just whatever, because he's got he's got problems, and he's

(01:34):
got looming indictments if he doesn't do what the Trump
administration tells him he has to do when it comes
to immigration. Not to mention, New Yorkers are fed up
with what's been going on in New York, I mean
fed up. So he basically was like, I'm good, Feds,
you know, come on in. And then Mayor Johnston in
his opening comments and we'll get to the blog in

(01:55):
just a second. Mayor Johnston is opening comments essentially said, yes,
all these people came here illegally, but we in Denver
welcomed them in such a way our crime went down.
Everyone was happy, people were dancing in the streets. It
was incredible. We all did the macarena together. I mean

(02:19):
he didn't actually say that, but that's kind of the
vibe that he went with. So he basically was like, yeah,
we helped him, so what. And then Brandon Johnston from Chicago.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
This guy, this guy I don't understand what it is
about Chicago politics that they keep electing either fully incompetent
or fully corrupt people over and over and over again
in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Because Chicago's this incredible city. It's amazing that it's an
incredible city because it's being run by dingbats and morons
and has been for a very long time. So here
comes Brandon Johnson. This guy's an absolute train wreck, and
he essentially was like, yeah, what, we're immigrants, what are
you gonna do? And then Michelle Wu from Boston, who

(03:04):
I actually kind of admire because she just came in
and was like, look, in Boston, we got it handled.
We don't need you interfering. We don't want you coming
into our city. Crime is lower than it's ever been
in Boston. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
What?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
So Mayor Mike Johnston was actually the second best of
the four when when it came to you know, uh,
sounding I don't know, somewhat reasonable. I will tell you this.
I've been getting text messages from my friends around the
country and uh, my favorite so far is why is
Opie your mayor? I was a friend it might just

(03:40):
sent me that I'm you know, just unsolicited, like I
look down, that's the text. That's just what it says.
Why is Opie your mayor? And I was like, well, no,
I can't. I could push back, but it wouldn't have
a lot of passion behind it. So let me do
the blog because I have the blog because last night
the president gave a speech. Boy, it's just fast. I'm

(04:00):
been furious right now. Did you watch the speech last night?

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Shannon?

Speaker 7 (04:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
What?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh, you were busy slamming your head against the wall instead.
I love the guy, but I can't listen to me. Well,
here's the thing. As soon as it started, I remembered.
I forgot. I forgot until it started, Shanning about the clapping.
The clapping. I hate the clapping. I hate it. It's
like it's like they're just standing there and instead of clapping,

(04:27):
they're just racking their fingernails up and down a chalkboard.
That's how it sounds to me. I hate the clapping.
So normally I don't watch the speech at all, and
then I just read the transcript the next day and
I go back and dip in and see what I missed. Right,
whole thing like that hour and forty minute speech could
have probably twenty minutes without the clapping. But then I
committed to live tweeting, and I didn't want to let
people down, so I started live tweeting. I made it

(04:49):
till about eight thirty, so right before the end of
the speech. I made it that far. And then thankfully
my daughter needed help with something. So I was like, oh, sure,
I can help you with this thing I know nothing about,
but I did. I did. Let's do do the blog.
Now that we're ten minutes into the show and I've
already told you things. I mean, it's just lots have
happened in the last twenty four hours, friends, and I'm

(05:12):
a little bit exhausted. Go to the blog. Find it
at mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for
the headline that says three five twenty five blog Drag
out the Dead Horse plus an inventor changes tonightas Click
on that off halper all ships and clipments and press
flash and here are the headlines you will find within.

(05:33):
Are we done with winter? Why can't the state GOP
leave county chapters alone? This guy invented the treatment for
tonight as tomorrow? We've got asked the injury attorneys. Trump
gave a speech last night. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. Commerce Secretary
says tariff deal is likely soon. Gold Dome staffers are
complaining about crime. Another good restaurant bites the dust. Yes,

(05:55):
Colorado needs our own doge. Today is Mayor Johnston's big
day in DC. The Aurora City Council race gets even
more crowded. China heard what Trump laid down. Our first
office building to affordable housing project is happening. Legislators come
close to expanding the cottage laws. No, they don't have
dirt on their forehead. There are so many scams happening

(06:16):
right now. I must be Hella Strong. Denver Botanic Gardens
has some great shows this summer. Being pro energy, is
being pro human God Insomnia, lift Weights, and now a
cute kitten and a big dog. Those are the headlines
on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. And you can
tell that a Rod's not here because they'll see the band.

(06:38):
The band's drunk again, Shannon, go Lee. It's only Wednesday.
Usually it takes them till Thursday to get you know,
liquored up before the show. Dang it, dang it, all right,
you guys, as you can see, the blog is voluminous.
There's a lot on here. It's a cornucopia of things,

(06:59):
but a lot of them have to do with what's
happening in DC. And I just want you guys to
know the first thing I do every single day is
look at local news every day. That's the first thing
that I look at. I look to see what stories
look interesting, things we need to talk about, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. However, the last few weeks, there

(07:19):
has not been anything as interesting as what is happening
in DC right now. And now the two have collided
because Mayor Mike Johnston has been called to Congress to
testify in front of the House Oversight Committee about sanctuary
city status. Now what's been really, really, really ridiculous is
to listen to all for the mayors, and I just

(07:39):
mentioned all the mayors. We have Mayor Mike Johnson, we
have maryor Eric Adams from New York, we have Mayor
Brandon Johnson from Chicago, and Mayor Michelle wou from Boston.
And to hear them try and explain why the laws
that are on the books that prevent them from doing
things with the federal government make them a sanctuary city.

(08:02):
They're trying to explain it away by changing the definition
of sanctuary city. And it's remarkable because as people are
watching it, they're going, wait a minute, that's completely ridiculous.
So this is a strategy, and I have to start

(08:24):
the show out. We're just going to talk about the
Democratic Party for just a minute, okay, because between what's
happening right now in DC with these Democratic mayors lined
up trying to tell you that what you know and
what you see with your own eyes is completely invalid,
and what they're telling you is true as they feed
you a crap sandwich. So this is what's happening today

(08:45):
in DC and last night. If you wondered, if you
were curious about whether or not the national Democratic Party
is in utter and complete disarray, what happened last night
at Trump's speech should really answer that question for you,
because out of everything that happened last night, and I'm
gonna tell you, Trump was at his best last night.

(09:05):
He was funny. He had a couple of lines that
were I mean, when he said, after you talked about
someone being on the Social Security roles, which is true
at the age of three, hundred and sixty nine years old.
He looked at Bobby Kennedy and said, Bobby, our country
is healthier than I thought. That's funny. I mean, that's funny.

(09:27):
And he had a few and he flat out called
Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas to your face. And you know what,
normally I don't really like that, like name calling, right,
but when you're shot with your own ammunition as she is, Wait,
is that insensitive for me to say shot? If I
said shot with your own arrows, yeah, that would be insensitive.
In any case, It was funny. He was in his element.

(09:49):
He was being adored with all the dang clapping, the clapping. Ah,
I hate the clapping. So the speech was like a
rollicky speech, but just like they did at the RNC.
And we talked about this after we went to the
RNC and the DNC this year, about the things that
the RNC did better than the DNC. And one of

(10:10):
the biggest things that the RNC did so much better
than the DNC was focus on normal Americans. They're little
vignettes about real human beings who had been impacted by
policies in one way or another, maybe positive, maybe negative.
Those were very powerful moments at the RNC, and they worked.

(10:30):
They were very very good. They I think they resonated
with people in a way that felt very personal, which
is not something you usually say about a political convention. Right.
Political conventions are about tribalism, and it's really hard to
bring people into an emotional space where they feel like
you're really seeing them when they're sitting at home in
their living room. So it was very successful with the RNC,

(10:52):
and he did it again last night. And the reason
I bring up the Democrats in this context is the
Democrats were in such disarray that they decided collectively and
who they is that I couldn't even tell you who
the leadership is right now in the Democratic Party. Allegedly
it's Chuck Schumer and a King Jeffreys. They're not doing
a good job, but they decide they're just gonna sit

(11:14):
on their hands with dower faces the entire speech, whole thing.
So if you just want a quick review of the
things that the Democrats sat on their hands, did not smile,
did not clap for you. Got a kid with cancer,
brain cancer that Trump brings to this speech. So he
can then make the kid who's always dreamed kids. Thirteen

(11:36):
years old. He's always dream of being a police officer.
It's all he's ever wanted to do. So they make
the kid an honorary member of the Secret Service. It
was such a moment. It was such and the Democrats
sat there stony faced, many of them on their phones.
So let's see, they don't cheer for kids with cancer.
Then he features a mom who is also in the audience,

(11:58):
who's twelve year old daughter was violently abducted, raped, and
then murdered by a bunch of illegal immigrants. Okay, they
tell this horrific story, and then they talk about what
they're doing to honor her name going forward. Democrats sitting there,
stony faced, nothing, nothing at all. Corey Campatori, the gentleman

(12:20):
who was murdered in Buttlet at the Butler rally, his
family sitting in the gallery. I mean, you think they
could at least clap because Trump almost got did get shot, right,
I mean, you think maybe they could find it in
their hearts to, you know, to clap for the day
that Trump got a shot as they honor this man's family. Nothing, stonefaced,
sitting there, nothing. Let's talk about reviving the American economy. Nothing.

(12:46):
Let's talk about deporting violent alien criminals, not a thing,
no reaction. Let's talk about getting men out of women's sports. Well,
of course they're not going to share for that. They
just voted that down. Technically, they didn't vote it down,
they just filibustered it, so it died. But in any case,
I digress. Do you know what they did stand and
cheer four last night? One thing they stood and cheered

(13:10):
for last night. It was when Trump talked about sending
billions and billions of dollars to Ukraine. But you know
what they didn't stand up for when Trump talked about
bringing peace to Ukraine. I mean, guys, what is that?
Who are they endearing themselves to?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Now?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Don't get me wrong, these are always hyperpartisan speeches, okay.
It is always the party in power, leaping up and
down like a jack in the box, clapping like idiots.
It doesn't matter whether it's Republicans in power or Democrats
in power. But in every State of the Union address,
there is always a few moments where everybody in the
chamber can get excited about something. Right, There's always a

(13:53):
couple of times when everybody can find something to clap about.
Just a few, and last night the only thing the
Democrats stood up for was billions and billions of dollars
to Ukraine, not Ukrainian peace. They had already sat back
down and did not get back up for that one.
I mean, it was just crazy to watch them. I

(14:16):
wonder who who are they talking to? Who are they
speaking with, because I have to believe that Democrats in
the United States of America want to deport criminal aliens,
they want that to happen, they want to stop the
flow of Fentanel across the southern border. I have to
believe that. I mean, it's crazy. I have to believe

(14:40):
that Democrats across America would feel some compassion and maybe
a little move by a kid with cancer that they
just gave a secret service badge to. So it was
just it was so crazy to watch that last night.
And honestly, I sometimes I look at what's going on
on and I put a different set of lenses on,

(15:03):
and that is my purely political sense of lenses. And
this is why I can look at Jared Polis, who
I disagree with on so many issues, but I can
absolutely tell you he's one of the most skilled politicians
I've seen ever ever, he does politics and politicking in
a masterful way, and I wouldn't be surprised at all
if he was if he didn't end up president. I

(15:25):
mean that because I think he's that skilled at it.
So I'm looking at what happened last night from a
purely political lens, and I'm thinking to myself, Trump has
absolutely broken this Democratic Party. They have no clue how
to respond except to put themselves on the opposite of

(15:45):
whatever Donald Trump says. So when Donald Trump says we
need to deport criminal aliens, the Democrats sit there stony
faced with what taskit? Approval for criminal aliens? I mean,
he has put them in a position where their opposition
is so incredibly, incredibly entrenched in politics that they're not

(16:10):
even listening to see if there's anywhere that maybe even
though they think you scare I mean, a blind squirrel
signs a nut right, a broken clock worked is right
twice a day kind of thing. You're telling me there's
not a single thing that the Democrats can agree with
Donald Trump on. I mean, that's that's just masterful politically.

(16:31):
I mean, if you are forcing your opponents to defend
the indefensible, you won already without even trying, and so
everybody who is sitting here and making grand pronouncements about
the death of the Republican Party and this is you, guys,
not unless the Democratic Party comes up with something. Because

(16:52):
last night they had these little like picketball pickleball paddles,
that's what they look like, like pickleball paddles or giant
ping pong paddles, and they had put like words on
each side of them, and they were holding them up
and it just looked so stupid.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
You have Al Green, a grown man shaking his cane
like an old man at the deli, trying to send
back soup, and when told to sit down politely, he
chose not.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
To because his sole goal was to be the guy
who got thrown out of the speech last night. I'm
sure he's already been on MSNBC today. I mean, it
was just one train wreck after another for the Democratic Party.
It really was bad. It was so bad, and I
watched it last night. I just thought they have to
there has to be like some serious come to Jesus. Well,

(17:45):
it won't become to Jesus and the Democrats, but you know,
come to whoever, come to whatever's in charge right now.
They've got to sort themselves out. Don't get me wrong,
I hope they don't, at least long enough to maybe
write the ship. When we get back, We've got Weather Wednesday.
We're gonna talk more about this tonight, not tonight today.

(18:06):
We'll talk about it a little bit later in the show.
But we got Weather Wednesday coming up. I didn't even
tell you my guests were today because I'm just on
a tear, an absolute tear. Dave Frasier, Weather Wednesday coming
up next. And then this story out, Uh, Shannon, did
a rod tell you where the dead horse is? Did
you tell which closet to drag it out of? I
need you to drag it out by one because I'm

(18:27):
gonna be beating the dead horse again talking about ongoing
interference by the clown show that leads the Colorado GOP.
And then at two thirty, we've got a guy named
doctor Ross O'Neil. He's Irish first of all, which is
really the only reason that I booked him, so we
all get an Irish accent at two thirty. No, I'm
just kidding. He's the guy who actually invented the technology

(18:48):
that doctor Patty is talking about to actually get rid
of tonightis and I have now finally developed my own
tonight as in one of my ears. You know what,
But Shannon, it's been a good ride. I've been a
radio since nineteen ninety seven. Okay, So the fact that
I made it thirty years without you know, having any

(19:09):
tonight us or hearing damage. I mean no offense to
my colleague Marty Glens, but that guy can't hear anything
based on where the volume is on this headset when
I sit down on it. Wow. Crazy. Anyway, we'll be
right back for weather Wednesday. You probably don't have his number,
d Shannon. Okay, one moment, please, Shannon Vamp for me,
talk for a moment about something exciting for the next

(19:31):
thirty seconds while I send you his number. I think
you know me a little bit better than that, and
that I don't have anything exciting to talk about. Wow,
that is not as helpful as you might think. But
I am a do not lead the league in helpfulness?

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Right?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Good talk Slower? That actually is tremendously helpful because that
contact is on the way. I'm k more propose you
have to understand when you're my producer, which maybe why
I I have trouble keeping one producer. Why I'm the
Murphy Brown of KOA is because I just throw people
under the bus unexpectedly and forget that. So yeah, anyway,

(20:11):
moving on for just a moment. Got a lot of
you who are either like last night was two hours
of gloriousness or they're like this. You know how you
feel about Dave Williams and the State Party. I feel
the same way about Trump and the National Party. Such
a joke. Are you ready to get on the Tina
Peters bandwagon? Yet your party is the DOJ is you
better jump on zoon because Dave Williams and his ILK

(20:34):
is the future for your team. I'm just gonna say,
I hope not not if I have anything to say
about it. But I'm not in that party anymore, so
I don't have as much to say about it as
I used to. All Right, So hang on one second.
Dave Fraser coming up, because Hello Dave Fraser, without the
fancy intro for whether Wednesday, because I forgot to tell

(20:55):
Shannon anything before this segment.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
What you don't have me on speed dial?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I do, but I was talking. I didn't. A complete
failure on my part, Dave. But you know why because
the weather's beautiful today. Little chili but gorgeous.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yep, it's stake spring too, yes, the last weekend, so yeah,
so yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
The snowstorm didn't wasn't as bad as I thought it
was going to be, So that's good.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Yeah, so that you know, the the wind was the
biggest component of that recent storm we had, and it
was more about that than the snow. You know, I
tried to stress on air as much as I could
that regardless of what kind of snow you got, that
it would be blowing and drifting and cause visibility issues.
Was certainly a challenge out on the eastern Chins, you know,

(21:43):
Castle Rock areas south were included in that blizzard warning.
But at about three o'clock in the morning, actually right
before I was leaving at eleven o'clock at night, it
was evident that the snow totals weren't going to get
up to the three and four inches that we saw.
I only got about two here, and so the National
Weather Service downgrade blizzard warning at about three in the
morning to a winter weather advisory. I will tell you, however,

(22:05):
I drove home that night, and as you know, you've
come up past RidgeGate and get up on the flattop
there by Castle Pines Parking and the wind in the
snow was just so bad and it was a heavy,
wet snow. Yeah, was sticking to everything. Like my sensors
on my car were screaming at me like, hey, radars blind,
you can't do drive, Yeah, the steering wheel because it
was that kind of visibility and sticky snow and that

(22:26):
stuffs always a challenge.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
So what's happening in the immediate future? How long do
we get to get enjoy this? And then where are
we going to bounce back up to the fifties or sixties?
What are we looking at the next week?

Speaker 6 (22:36):
Very very quickly, So we've got two little pieces of
rain and snow to deal with. The mountains will get
back in the snow later tonight, but very late tonight,
and then a better chance on Thursday into Friday. There
are already a winter storm watches up for the mountains,
So anybody thinking about traveling and starting later tonight but
certainly Thursday till Friday afternoon could be a challenge in

(22:57):
the mountains for us. Some of that moisture is going
to spill as a rain shower later on Thursday that
could mix with a little bit of snow late Thursday night.
And then there's some questions on whether or not we
have snow Friday morning or Friday afternoon. Some models want
to keep the snow into Friday morning with less than
an inch. Others want to dry it out and then
bring it back in the afternoon. So I would expect
snowshowers on Friday with probably less than an inch of accumulation.

(23:20):
And again, this is another Pacific storm, so it won't
be terribly cold. The forecast high on Friday Thursday. It's
going to be like fifty five Friday, probably around thirty
eight to forty degree. Then here comes the good news.
We get back into the fifties on Saturday, fifties on Sunday,
and seventies come Monday.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Wow, that'll be a nice change, nice change. Hey, Dave,
I have somebody on the text line that is super
not happy with you because of the missed forecast. They
said most of Eastern Plains schools canceled school yesterday and
when no snow came, parents and guardians were screaming bloody
murder because they had to get daycare or other arrangements.
There's been misses before, but this one was pretty major

(24:00):
and really impacted people's schedules negatively and unnecessarily. What happened
with this particular storm that made it so hard to forecast.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
So again this storm, the placement of the storm was
literally right over the ice seventy quarter, and sometimes that
benefits heavier snow along the corridor. The storm did move
a little further south, so the snow line, the projected
chance for accumulating snow dropped further south. And so while
the eastern Plains and northeast Colorado, like the I seventy

(24:30):
sixth quarter, a good chunk of the ice seventy quarter
didn't get the snow in some of its stayed as rain.
And again that many goes to the fact that this
was a Pacific storm. It just didn't have a lot
of cold air. The wind component was definitely there. When
was the challenge was smacking into the side of eighteen
wheelers on I seventy. The problem with the school closures,
we do the story time and time again when the

(24:52):
National Weather Service issues a blizzard warning and you're the
administrator at a school on the eastern plains, places like
Kiowa and Linemen and the bullseye for blizzard conditions. I mean,
how do you not make that decision to do school?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
And even though they.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Didn't get the snow. Remember, the definition of a blizzard
is not deep snow. The definition of a blizzard is
strong wind combined with snow. No accumulation is a factor
in there. It just has to be snowing. The combination
of the wind of the snow reduces visibility for a
quarter of a mile for a consistent three hours or longer.

(25:28):
So those are the ingredients that the National Weather Service
was looking at. They had the components to give you
that reduced visibility and the blowing and the drifting and
being able to keep the roads open. The snow never equated,
and so you ended up with a wind event a
lot of places more so than the snow and a
blizzard event.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I mean, but obviously, Dave, you and your colleagues did
that on purpose, just to screw people over. Yes, good,
I mean I know you guys, you'll have a streak
of evil in you, and that's why you do the
job you do. That's what it's all. I just got
a question.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Oh go ahead, Yeah, I was gonna say, if it
was that easy, if businesses would close because of those reasons,
I'd be throwing blizzard warnings at the map every day.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah exactly, But do a'll get to stay home? Let
me ask you, and you this text are actually said.
This may be an inappropriate question, but can you ask
Dave generally how much a meteorologist makes per year? And
this is a lot of times people because people ask me,
and I always say, and this is not me hedging.
It depends on the market you're in, It depends on

(26:28):
the day part you're in, It depends on you know,
so many different factors go into what people make in
our industry that you can't give a blanket statement.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
Yeah, I would agree with you on that. You know
what's changed in recent years is the Colorado law about
disclosures of self Oh yeah, so that has really opened up,
you know, kind of a portal for people to see.
So your description is correct. I go to schools and
talk to kids, and always you get those questions, and
the kids always act, yeah they do, and why shouldn't they? Right,

(27:03):
they're thinking about this as a career and they find
out it doesn't pay as much as they thought it did.
Maybe they rethink what they want to do in life.
I will say it's exactly the same it is. It's
about the size of the city you ran. You know,
what's your destination. Do you want to work in Denver
or is hometown? You know, somewhere in a small market
in Kansas and you're comfortable making money. I've worked with
guys and known guys in the business for years that

(27:25):
worked in smaller cities, lessons who didn't make as much
as maybe somebody in a New York city, but they
made enough money that they had a comfortable, great life
as a career. And it goes through experience. It goes
to the position. Some you know, a weekend position might
not be paid as much as a Monday through Friday position,
mornings versus nights, all of those things. But in Colorado now,

(27:47):
if you're curious about any job because of that change
in the law two years ago, all you've got to
do is go out and google jobs, and the salaries
are right there in plain view.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Oh nice, I'm googling to see if mine's on here
that I have no idea, I'll let you know, but
it is true.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
It will be when you leave. I can tell you
that there you go, You're going to see what they're
gonna pay the next person.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, I mean, but really, am I replaceable?
Dave Fraser? The answer is the something now, all right, Daves,
and talk to you next week, my friend. And just
let's enjoy this next week of gorgeous weather. I can't wait.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
Yeah again, Mark, is Denver snowy this month? But I
want to stress that doesn't mean it snows all month.
All it needs is we have a chance to get
decent storms at times. But you're also going to get
to enjoy a third and a fourth stake spring and
that comes this weekend and certainly on Monday, glove stretch
of late seventy degrees.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
All right, fantastic, Thanks Dave Fraser. We'll talk to you
next week, all right, by bye, all right, we'll be
right back. As soon as Representative Gabe Evans begins questioning
Mayor Mike Johnston in DC, we are gonna dip into
that because I really want to hear what Gabe has
to say, first of all, but I want to play
the exchange with Senator Jim Jordan or Representative Jim Jordan's

(29:07):
I just I upgraded him because this dude is a
Stone called baller all the time, and this is what
happened is five minutes long.

Speaker 10 (29:16):
I'm just gonna playman, Mayor Johnston. Who's Abraham Gonzalez?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Thank you, Congressman.

Speaker 11 (29:25):
He is a individual that was released from the county
jail on Friday in the city.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
County of Denver. That's all you know about him. I
do know that he was facing charges.

Speaker 10 (29:38):
That the Venezuelan gang member arrested by border patrol on
September twentieth, twenty twenty three. Released into the country by
the Biden administration. A few months later, he's arrested in
your city charged with aggravated assault. On March eleventh, twenty
twenty four, he's charged with motor vehicle THEEP stole a car.
And then on March twentieth, twenty twenty four, MISUS shra

(30:00):
Gonzalez's charge with fellony menacing. Six days after that last charge,
I send you a detainer which includes an administrative warrant. Basically,
it says, if you're going to release this bad guy,
this gang member who allegedly stole a car, menace people
and assaulted people, give us a forty eight hour heads up.

(30:20):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
That refresh your memory. I do know about the detainer request.

Speaker 11 (30:24):
I do know that we provided a notification of religion.

Speaker 10 (30:27):
What kind of notice did you give ICE when you're
released him?

Speaker 11 (30:29):
We gave him notification. I'm not sure how many hell advanced?
I do you know that hour?

Speaker 10 (30:34):
I do you know that there was one hour notice?
And you released him five days ago?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Right?

Speaker 10 (30:39):
Why not give him why not give him more head
Let's put the slide up. Let's see what it says here.
But let's put the slide up. This is what the
Denver Sheriff's Department's kind of hard to see. Saul readA
says Denver sheriff Department ICE notification being released to the streets.
I simply said, we won't just release him to us.
You released him to the streets. Why not release him
to ICE?

Speaker 11 (31:00):
Thank you what we've done, and we do this regularly.
We've done twelve hundred and twenty six of these.

Speaker 10 (31:05):
Is we notify asking about one I'm not asked about
to the twelve and I'm asking about mister Abraham Gonzalez,
who's a gang member from Venezuela, stole a car, assaulted someone.
You had him in your custody for how long I
know that we released three hundred and forty five days
you had him in custody and I said, hey, can
you get this forty eight hours heads up?

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (31:26):
Gave him one hour.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Notice, mister Congressman. We notified them released.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
There was six ICE agents present when he was released,
so they had enough time to respond and to be
present nowhere to the jail whe we released him from.
So we released him two. We notified them on the
release time. When we notified them of release, they come
to the jail facility to pick them up.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
That's not what you said.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
You said you released them to the streets.

Speaker 10 (31:49):
Did you release them to the streets? You released them vice.

Speaker 11 (31:52):
What we do, sir, is we release him from our
county jail, and we coordinate with ICE on that release
time and release date so that ICE can come and
pick them up from that location.

Speaker 10 (32:00):
And they were up wearing a parking lot.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yes, so they're on the facility.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
Yes, what happened in the parking lot?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
I know, sir.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I've reviewed the video, so I looked at it. I've
talked to the sheriff last night.

Speaker 10 (32:09):
Ay, the ICE officers got assaulted, didn't he?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I reviewed the videos. I had to taste the guy.

Speaker 10 (32:12):
Didn't they would you like me answer, sir, No, I'd
like the answer.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Did they tase him?

Speaker 10 (32:16):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I know that there were six officers of that multiple tasers.
I saw that they had.

Speaker 10 (32:21):
If you keep him in the facility and they come
in the facilion and get him, does it take six officers?
Probably takes two, doesn't it.

Speaker 11 (32:27):
So we've had we've been doing these as I mentioned
twelve and twenty four times, twenty six times. This is
the first time I've been made aware of there's been
an instant like this. So I reached out to ICE
after I saw the video. I've coordinated with their team
and offered to sit down and see if they're week simple.

Speaker 10 (32:43):
It's a simple question. You can release him in the
parking lot, give Ice one hour notice and they got
to send six officers to arrest this guy.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Or you can say, hey, what we're gonna here's what
we're gonna do. We're gonna hold him.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
You come in and bring two officers in and you
turn him over there.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Why not do it that way? We have a city
or know why you don't do it that way? We
have a city ordinance that for a sanctuary city. This
is the whole point. No, sir, I disagree with you, okay,
because I'll tell you why.

Speaker 11 (33:06):
What if you talk about sanctuaries a definition of shielding
people from law enforcement, we do not do that.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
What we do do is provide services. In this context,
what we did.

Speaker 10 (33:14):
Is is we coordinated the release officer got assaulted because
of your policy, which says we're going to release him
to in your words, not mine, to the streets. They
have to arrest him in the parking lot. They bring
six officers when they could have had one or two.
Just come in your facility into jail and take the
guy there.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
But you won't do it that way. I've seen the video.

Speaker 11 (33:32):
I've reached out to icefordinate on strategies. If we need
to make adjustments to what we do on releases, we'll
do that. This is the first time in the twelve
hundred and twenty six releases.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
No.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I read you last night.

Speaker 10 (33:44):
I read your written Testamay last night, four and a
half pages, and you used the word safe, safer or
safety thirteen times talking about my job is a protect
us is the safety of the people in Denver. We
prioritize making sure everyone in.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Our community is safe.

Speaker 10 (34:02):
That's a lie because it was not safer for the
ICE agents who are part of your community.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
No way was it safer.

Speaker 10 (34:08):
The safest thing to do is to say, Ice, we
got him in custody, come here, we're releasing. We held
him three hundred and forty five days. We can't hold
him a second longer. We can't wait for you to
come inside the building. We gotta let him go, so
you have to rest him in the parking lot. That
is how stupid sanctuary policies are and what they mean
to the community that you put at risk and to
the Ice officers who the Ice officer who was assaulted

(34:28):
and they had to use a taser on the It's
not good, mister.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
And I'm gonna cut him off there because I mean,
I usually make comments, but uh, that is what Mayor
Mike Johnson's been up to today. The dead horse grant
is now, come in grant. You've got to drag in
the dead horse so I can beat up more on
the state Colorado GOP party GOP leadership. So just drag
out the dead horse. We'll do that next.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
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Speaker 2 (35:21):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I'm your host, Mandy Connell, and now Grant Smith has
been shuffled into the producers shuffle and he will be
taking you right up until KOA Sports takes over at
three p m. We are going to talk more about
the President's speech last night. We are going to take
it when Representative Gabe Evans questions Mayor Mike Johnston in

(35:43):
the House Committee, unless I've already missed it, which is possible.
But in the meantime, I've dragged out the dead horse
so I could continue beating it. And we have another
example from the clown show running the Colorado GOP State
Party joining me. Now, I would not put those words
in his mouth. I'll let Hunter Rivera explain exactly what
just happened at a Weld County reorganization meeting. Now, Hunter,

(36:06):
I've got to tell you welcome to the show. First
of all, but I got to tell you I don't
think I ever thought in my lifetime I would be
covering a reorg meeting from a political party in a county.
It's just not something that really ever makes a ripple,
you know. It's one of those things that happens and
it's great, but we don't ever really talk about this stuff.

(36:27):
So what happened at the Weld County Oh, jeez, Hunter,
unmute the computer there, Grant. I muted it because it
was looping. So we're just going to get that now, Hunter,
I just laid out everything that you could not hear.
So what just happened?

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Is that I think you're still muted? Grant? Now you
can hear us. Great, don't do anything else. We're all good.
We can all be heard right now. No, Hunter, I
just laid out that the state party, and I never
thought I would be covering the state party or the
county meeting of a political party, but here we are.
So what should have been a pretty pedestrian event where

(37:06):
you guys came in the Weld County Republicans came in,
and you what do you elect at these county reorg meetings?
Who gets elected into what positions?

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Yeah, so it's everything from your county chairman to your
county vice chair or in our case, vice chairman, we
have multiple secretary of treasurer. And then additionally, if your
county got enough votes for president in the preceding general election,
then you also get a bunch of bonus members. In
Weald County we have twenty two bonus members to our
state Central Committee.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
That is a lot of bonus members. I mean, that's
a lot of bonus members. So what happened when you
guys were just there going about your business electing the
people from your county that you know and all of that,
what has gone sideways that the state Party is now saying, nah,
that didn't.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
Count well my goodness. I mean it all started back
at the beginning of January. We were gaming ready for
our county reork meeting.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
We announced the date.

Speaker 7 (37:56):
About a week after we announced the date, we ended
up getting a lit of individuals that Dave Williams, the
state Party chair, ended up recommending to fill precinct committee vacancies.
Precting committee people are voting members of our Central Committee.
We checked the authority on that. We found out he
had the authority to do that under state law. All
it said is it had to be those individuals had

(38:18):
to be ratified therefore become members of our Central Committee,
but those are subject to ratification by our county Central Committee.
We ended up putting it on our agenda at our
County Central Committee, and we satisfied the requirements of the law.
There was an individual who did like that ended up
filing a complaint with the State GOP, and the State
GOP inserted themselves made a ruling which I believe was

(38:42):
improperly given, which said we had to put that at
the top of our agenda. We asked our County Central
Committee meeting at the eighth we asked the body, would
you like to consider the ratification of these new voting
members from Dave Williams and the State GOP at the
beginning of our agenda, like they've asked, our Central Committee
overwhelmingly said no, and then the State GOP came back
on the conclusion of our meeting and invalidated.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
All of our election results. So let me just put
this into simple terms. Dave Williams, the chairman of the
Colorado GOP, sent you a list of people that he
chose from Welld County to just be part of the
bonus voters that you have in the Central Committee. So
he just wanted them ratified, even if you guys in

(39:25):
the Weld County Party did not want them. And I'm
assuming that all of them were William's loyalist that he
thought would make it easier for him to do things
like change by laws or win another election to be
Colorado's chairman, you know of the GOP. So that's pretty
much what happened, right, And he tried to stack the
deck and you guys rejected it. Yep, that is exactly it.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
We went before the state Central Committee or excuse me,
the State Executive Committee. He was asked, point blank, who
helped you put together these lists?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
One of those.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
Individuals is now running for state party chair Lori s
You know, we told our county Central committee this, and
you know, I don't think they liked the optics of that,
and they told the state no when they told us
to put it at the top of our agenda.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
So, well, now what happens next, because they invalidated the elections,
what happens next?

Speaker 7 (40:13):
Well, you know, the unfortunate thing is when they invalidated
the elections, the normals process is that you have the
ability to appeal those types of decisions from the Executive
Committee to the State Central Committee. On the email set
by Chairman Williams. He put on there that regardless of
if I appeal the decision, he will come in and
rerun our reorg meeting. He would execute the authority of

(40:34):
whatever decision the State Executive Committee came up with. So
basically it put us into the position of we could
appeal the decision and be at the mercy of the
State Central Committee and I have no idea how they
would rule on this case, which I felt was a
bit of an unknown, or I could strike a deal
with the Chairman, and we ended up strecting a deal
to where I felt like my county would still have
some be somewhat respected in a process of redoing our

(40:58):
reorg meeting, because honestly, I believe my county is still
going to hold firm and I believe the results are
going to end up being the exact same as they
were a month ago.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I like that confidence. I like it a lot. I've
was lucky enough to attend the Weld County Women's Rumbles
this year, and they are just really strong organization, full
of great people, and I think probably one of the
best Republican organizations in the state. That's my opinion about
the Weld County GOP. I just want to talk about
one more thing before I let you go, Hunter, because

(41:25):
I'm just doing this to bludge in the leadership of
the Republican Party here in the state. Further because I've
beaten them to a bloody pulp as often as possible,
because they're terrible and divisive and awful and need to
be completely out. But how old are you, Hunter? Oh,
I'm only twenty two years old and you were just
what is your position going to be?

Speaker 12 (41:46):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Are you the chairman of the Colorado Weld County GOP
right now or is that in limbo? Well, according to
my County Central Committee, i am.

Speaker 7 (41:54):
According to Dave Williams and the state GOP, i am
not the chairman, But yes, I am the county chairman
in Weald County.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I think that's amazing and I'm incredibly happy to see
that there are young people who are not just in
the party for parties. They're in the party to make
sure that things get executed properly. So good on you
and the rest of the team there in Weld County, because,
as you said, you fully expect this to hold SETI
and hold fast and not have this nonsense shoved down

(42:21):
your throat by the State Committee. What made you want
to be active on the committee?

Speaker 7 (42:26):
First of all, Yeah, well, I actually was a RNC
staffer about two years ago RNC slash Colorouse GOP. I
worked for Bark Kirkmeyer's campaign, helped her out in the
HCD and as you know, we came up a fifteen
hundred votes short or so in that race, and I
kind of got fed up as an individual and was like, well, man,
I think the county Party could do more. So I

(42:48):
started looking around seeing what positions I could run for.
I initially ran for versus vice chairman, so that's the
position I was in for the last two years, and
then got involved with a bunch of different candidates. I
helped her on Yasmin Navarus campaign, Ryan Gonzalaz's campaigns, and
I also ran the cure effort for Dan Woog's race.
So just you know, I've just been activated for a while,
been involved at the state capitol as a legislative aid,

(43:10):
and just see the stuff that's coming down from Democrats
at the state level, and you know, I just got
fed up with it and decided to get involved and
talk to my neighbors and talk to my community, get
involved in my county, and just get good conservative leaders
elected here.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well Hntra, I'm glad to have you, and I'll be
following along what happens on Saturday. But I hope you're right.
I hope everything goes as you as you think, and
Weld will have their bonus members that they choose instead
of members that are shoved down their throat. And I
look forward to coming back to Welld County again at
some point for another event, because, like I said, I
think you guys are doing an amazing job.

Speaker 7 (43:42):
Well I certainly appreciate that, and you're certainly always welcome
up at a Well County GOP event.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
All right, thank you, Hunter Rivera. He is the chairman
of the Weld County GOP. As far as I'm concerned,
we'll talk against you man. Yes, sounds good.

Speaker 10 (43:54):
Talk to you.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Thank you. What a nice young man, my mom I
just became, I'm out, What a nice young man, What
a nice young man. This is how my mom talks
about my ex boyfriends. Whatever happened to that Kenny God,
he was stupid and she's not wrong. But as I
said that about Hunter. I'm like, oh my goodness, it's

(44:17):
all happening, Grant, It's gonna happen to you before you
know it. And twenty two years old getting involved. That's
really cool, and now chairman of I think one of
the best organized county organizations that I'm aware of. I
think there's great people in the Douglas County GOP. I
think there's great people in the Jeffco County GOP. They're
a far more uphill battle in Jeffco than in Wells

(44:40):
or in Douglas. And not to say that any of
your local or state I'm not I Please don't think
I'm playing favorites. I'm just more familiar with the work
that some of those folks are doing. Mandy Hunter has
been my proxy often. This is Kathleen Chandler. He's excellent.
Young men are stepping up. There is hope Mandy. I
am a voting member in well To and I'm disgusted

(45:01):
by the state Republican Party tarranny that from Rick. Why
can't we just run? Williams Off says this Texter, Okay,
something has shifted, something has happened. First, when he's not
running for reelection to be chairman again. He sent that
out on a Friday, I believe Friday afternoon press dump,
meaning don't pay attention to it. That's why I'm releasing

(45:23):
it Friday afternoon Old District in the book, I'm pretty
sure it came out last Friday. And now we hear
that he basically capitulated in Well County. Something is going on.
But if it makes him go away, I don't care.
I mean, don't get me wrong. I hope he's not
ill or something. I just hope maybe he's seen the

(45:44):
writing on the walls. I don't know. I have no idea. Okay,
back to the biggest news of the day. Oh, by
the way, tomorrow at one o'clock, I've got Gary and
Brad from Bell and Pollock coming on the show. I
this is something you might not know about, your humble host.
I love listening to lawyers give out advice on the radio.
I think is fascinating when people call in when they

(46:06):
have an issue. And so I can't even tell you
how many times I've tried to get these guys in
the studio to do this just to satisfy my own
curiosity about personal injury stuff. But I actually have questions.
Here's a question for you, Grant, and I'm gonna ask
the attorneys tomorrow. They're coming in at one, so get
your personal injury questions ready. If someone in my neighborhood

(46:26):
does not clear the ice off of their sidewalk and
then I bless my toukis and I break something, are
they responsible for my injuries? Because if so, this is
what I'm going to do. I'm going to start dropping
off notes in people's mailboxes with their scofflaws about cleaning
their sidewalks. It makes me crazy because I'm a dog walker.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
That's how my wonderful wife gets me to shovel our
snow every morning before I want to after working in
a late night here.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, as she says, well, I've heard you're liable. If
someone believe you are, we're going to find out tomorrow. Sidewalk.
We're going to find out tomorrow about that in the
first hour of the show for ask the injury attorneys. Okay,
so last night Trump gave a speech. I want to
ask you guys, first of all, two things. Number one,
how many of you watched the speech? How many of

(47:14):
you actually what did you watch? The whole thing? The
whole thing. I was here working it with Benjamin Alberts.
I made it to about eight thirty and then the
Q came in and said, Mom, I need help with this,
and I was like, oh, thank God, thy God, finally
I don't have to watch this anymore. And it's not
that it wasn't a great speech. I think Trump was on.
He was funny, but it's just so hyperpartisan and all

(47:34):
the clapping and eh, I don't like the State of
the Union address for that reason.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
The one side always standing up and clapping, on the
other side just not making eye contacts.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
You missed my first Ti Rade in the beginning of
the show, right out of the choote, because it was
it was so I don't know. Trump has really put
the Democrats in a difficult position when you can't stand
up for a kid who had brain cancer, who gets
given a badge a Secret Service agent.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
You can't me.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
That stuff that that was so effective at the r
n C. Focusing on real stories about real people, you know,
it's it's very effective, and I think it humanizes everything
that Trump is trying to do and why he's trying.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
He man, it's making me choke up.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Just think about that moment again when his dad was
holding him up and the crowd was giving him a
standing ovation.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Oh, the lion King moment.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
I called it yes, And then he gave that guy
yes beside him, like the most genuine yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I got goosebumps thinking about it right now. It's just
very moving and and it was a it was a
really good moment in the speech, and the Democrats just
boom sat there. Did he talk about the guy getting
kicked out already?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Al Green waving his cane like an old man at
the deli trying to send back soup. I mean, it
was just and and if you don't think that was
his intent from the very beginning, he was like, you
know what, I got a dinner resation of fifteen minutes.
I'm out. I'll be on MSNBC tomorrow, I'm out. It was,
you know, and we have no one to blame about ourselves, Republicans.

(49:09):
And when Joe Wilson yelled, you lied at the State
of the Union address to uh Barack Obama, that is
the first time that that level of decorum had been breached.
And back then I said, I do not like that.
I realized that everybody's like high fighting because he wasn't wrong,
but ultimately it was a breach of decorum. And what
did I say back then? Our team won't always be

(49:31):
not in power, right the other team, like you got.
It always goes back and forth. So whatever you accept
from your party expected to come back in your face
later because it will, it most assuredly will. And last night,
the the hooting and the hollering and Algreen yelling and
getting thrown out and the pickleball paddles with words written

(49:54):
on him, and people wearing red suits with stuff written
on him, it just all fell flat. And the Democrats
been put in a position where they now have to
oppose anything that Donald Trump says, even if it's about
giving a badge to a kid with.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Cancer, or that moment where and this is where I
try to look at these things, because you know, I
don't obviously agree and I know you don't with everything
that Donald Trump says or does. But the moment with
the kid that lost his father who was in the military,
and he announced his West Point admission another moment where.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
I was like, this is freaking incredible, incredible, because it's
real people. They're just average Americans. They're people that you
live next door to They're not people in Ivory Towers,
they're not people in the DC belt Way. They're real people,
and those stories resonate. I got to tell you when
Donald Trump last night, and I didn't talk about this earlier,
one of the most masterful parts of the speech in

(50:44):
terms of helping people understand why he's doing what he's doing,
was the list of stuff that we have sent money to,
where he was just listing off the crazy stuff that
our tax dollars the debt, but my grandchildren will have
to pay six million dollars now. And you know, in

(51:04):
the in the grand scheme of the budget, none of
that stuff individually is going to make a dent. But
if you're trying to make the case to the American
people that what Elon Musk is doing is not just
not evil but necessary, there was no better way to
do it than focusing on that kind of spending. And
he truly is just such an entertainer, you know, like,

(51:28):
oh he was on list.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Just the vast difference between hear and the end of
some of Biden's speeches to him and his just little
interjections when he was giving those lists off of the
budget of these expenses.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
He's like, yeah, and that's a real thing, and no
one even.

Speaker 12 (51:41):
Knows what it is.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Oh, no one, No one talks about it. No one
talks about it. I mean, but that that list was
really really powerful. Talking about the people on the social
security roles, now, there was a very careful There was
very careful wording about that, because he was factually correct
when he said these people are still on the Social

(52:02):
Security roles, and then later on he said and some
of them are getting payments. All of that was factually accurate.
It was a very but when people hear that someone
is three hundred and sixty nine years old and all
the Social Security roles, you start to go, wait a minute,
what are we doing. So if the speech was designed

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to drive public opinion toward what Trump is doing, especially
because I think he admitted it last night, he knows
that we're in for a bumpy ride here coming up.
Although the markets have responded really well today to the speech.
Right now, those are treasury yields. I'll tell you what
the market's doing about forty minutes out from close, because

(52:43):
the market has has had a bumpy spell here, but
it has responded positively. The down's up one point two
to two percent by five hundred and eighteen five point
twenty s and p's up one point one six percent.
I mean he's right though about economically, we're in for
a bumpy ride. And I would always direct people to

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look back to the first few years of the Reagan administration.
The first term, we had a recession because when you
slash government spending that you have allowed to grow into
this massive part of the economy, which is a lie.
Government spending is not real GDP because government doesn't create
anything but debt. Now, they provide services, and there are

(53:28):
certain things that we as a society have decided are
really important and we want them to do, but they
don't do anything but produce debt and inflation because they
produce inflation by printing too much money. They produce debt
by hiring people to do all these jobs. They don't
create anything. So yeah, when you contract that, when you

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contract something that has been way too much a part
of the GDP for way too long, we're going to
have a recession. So we needs people to understand exactly
what they're doing with government, and right now the Democrats
don't seem to have a good answer for it. Mandy. Now,
I definitely don't see him as an entertainer. His constant
needling is not funny, says this texter. I thought it was.

(54:13):
And when he called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas to her face,
I was like, Oh, no, he didn't. And I don't
normally like name calling, but she earned that one. Oh
this person. I especially liked the funding for transgender mice,
and that's why he did it. It was really, really,
really a good speech. The market is not responding to

(54:34):
his speech. It's responding to the delay on tariffs on automakers.
That is one part of it, but it's all part
of the bigger game, you guys. And like I said,
what I would have liked to see from last night's
speech that we did not get was a clearer explanation
of why all of this stuff matters, why shrinking the
size of all that excess spending is going to lower

(54:55):
inflation for people. Because people don't understand that connection. I
would have liked to I've heard a clearer overall vision
instead of individual sound bites about what was happening. I
needed him to wrap it all together in a bigger tapestry.
And I don't think he did. But overall, I mean,
you know, it was a good speech, just too long

(55:17):
and way too much clapping. I have to make a
correction because honestly, I didn't know this until right now
from the text line. By the way, you can always
text us at the Common Spirit Health text line by
sending a text message to five sixty six nine zero.
It's very easy. We'd love to hear from you today,
especially if you watch the speech or if you've seen
snippets of it or heard snippets today. I'd love to

(55:40):
know your favorite part if you watch the whole speech,
because now people are hitting the text line with different parts.
But we've got to say this. Millions for transgender mice,
uh huh, they are actually transgenic mice. Look up what
it actually means. It was bs mandy. Okay, So transgenic
mice are the mice that they've modified their genome sequence
to make them useful for human medical trials. So transgendic

(56:06):
mice makes more sense than transgender mice, because honestly, I
was like, well, how do they know their transgender I
mean do they put a pink in a blue sign
up and ask the mice to gravitate towards one. Oh,
by the way, for a party that doesn't believe in gender,
why were all the women last night wearing pink? I mean,

(56:27):
it's a valid question, very gender behavior by the Democratic women.
But I had to correct myself because then I just
got this text, Mandy, transgender mice have rights, especially when
taking scholarships from actual female mice. Racist. I love you, guys,
I really do. I really do, Mandy, if you ask me,

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the Democrats delivered. They made people think they are heartless,
care nothing about anybody but themselves. They are truly an
embarrassment to this country. I went to Senator de Bennet's office.
I don't agree with one thing the man says, but
I sat there respectfully listening to him talk about himself
in his book. I didn't hold up a sign saying
you're a loser. I sat there and respected his office.
But his party can't extend the same courtesy to the

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American people's shame, shame, shame. And I said this earlier
in the show, and I want to be clear about it.
You guys, these speeches are always highly partisan in nature.
They just are in the modern era anyway. I don't
know if they ever weren't. But they're always like a
raw raw for the party in charge and a boos
for the party not in charge. Although the boo hissing
that actually is out loud started fairly recently by Republicans,

(57:38):
if we're fair, I'm the Republicans started that that being said.
In every State of the Union address, there's at least
like two or three things that the President says that
everybody gets up and claps their hands for right. And
you'd think that the kid with cancer or the mom
of the twelve year old who'd been violently raped and

(58:00):
murdered by a bunch of illegal immigrants, you think they
would have been able to stand up. But the only
thing they stood up for last night was when Trump
said we've sent billions and billions of dollars to Ukraine.
And then a little bit later when Trump said talked
about peace in Ukraine. They did not applaud for that,

(58:21):
And I'm like, what what is that? Okay, let's just
if they're sending a message, what message am I supposed
to receive from that? The message is you love sending
billions and billions of dollars to a foreign country, but
you don't want them to achieve peace with the billions
and millions of dollars that you sent them. Is that

(58:41):
the message I'm supposed to get. I don't think they know.
I think they're in absolute and total disarray. Mandy loved
when Trump called out Dems that no matter what he did,
they would not applaud or approve. He was not wrong
this textor said Mandy, that was the most presidential he's
ever looked. Mandy, curious if one of your many liberal
listeners can defend the disgusting behavior from Democrats, guys people

(59:05):
that really hate or who and I don't want to say,
I think the people that listen to this show that
are on the left are not the people you're looking for.
Because they may be on the left, and they need
be passionately on the left, they're also open minded enough
to listen to a person they disagree with every single day,
you know, and not just to hate tweet me or

(59:25):
text me. I mean, you have to give them credit
if they're listening to this program. And you also have
to understand that people on the left, especially people on
the left, you have consumed a very narrow media stream.
They're genuinely afraid, They genuinely think that Donald Trump is
going to cancel elections and become a dictator and the
Republican Party is just going to be okay with that.

(59:48):
And I you know, trust me, if that happened, I
will get my torch and my pitchfork and I will
meet you guys in DC. It's not okay. It's you know,
these these sucking up legislation who are like, we need
to do a constitutional amendment so Trump can do a
third term. No, sir, no, we don't. We do not
need to make that happen. That is not a thing

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that needs to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
You probably weren't watching at this point because it was
probably past your bedtime.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
But at the end, Lauren Bobert.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Made her way into the camera angle at least four
times and then snapped a selfie with Trump as he's
walking out of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
The out of the Here's a fun fact. During the
State of the Union, they're lawmakers who get there at
like nine in the morning to hold their space on
the aisle so they can get a picture with the president.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
She shook his hand yeah as he was leaving because
she was up front, and then ran to the back
of the exit and snapped a selfie as he was
walking out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
She's no dummy. She's no dummy to keep herself a little. Really,
she did really well today with Mayor Mike Johnston as well. I,
you know, to say it, I hope she's growing up,
you know, I hope she's been. She was very good
with Mayor Mike Johnson. There's she there, you know. I

(01:01:11):
hope that she is just maturing into the role of
congressperson instead of Instagram congress person. There's a handful of legislators,
and really, I think they're all female. I'm trying to
think that there's any males that are just because Matt
Gates is out of Congress now and he was one
of them who used their role in Congress to build
a brand on the left. You've got AOC, You've got

(01:01:32):
Representative Jasmine Crockett. And I thought about putting her video
that she put out on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
X but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I just can't. Was it the one where she said
I'll be there, but please don't walk. No, it's the
one that she did to Kendrick Lamar. And it's just
as bad as you think that those words coming out
of my mouth, whatever vision you have in your mind,
it's just so beneath the dignity of office. She's on
the left. On the right, we have Marjorie Taylor Green,

(01:02:03):
and up until now, we've had Lauren Bobert building a
brand off their congressional gig, and I don't like it.
I don't like it no matter who does it. I
don't care what side of the aisle you are that
you're not in that position to self aggrandize and build
a brand. You're in that position to represent your constituents.
And I feel like there's a chance Lauren is moving

(01:02:24):
in that direction. And I hope so, I truly hope.
So Mandy Williams wants to run against Bobert, he would
have to move into the fourth district, and I do
not think he can win there. I really don't not
at all. Oh, Eric Swalwell, you are correct, but really
we know now he's in Congress for the Orgies. Did
you hear about this grant?

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
So, Eric Swalwell, who's already been caught banging a Chinese spy, okay,
already been caught there. He just got caught on a
citizen journalist's microphone at a dinner one night talking about
from now on, he's only going to bang tens and
he says, and my wife's not a ten. Dude, have
you looked in a mirror, You're not even a backside

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of one to ten. I mean, come on, I just don't.
I don't know maybe what percentage of the people in
the Donbass region speak Russian and how many of those
people got bombed by Ukraine for speaking Russian. Asking for
a friend, the Donbass regent you're asking for We're not

(01:03:29):
going through all that again today. We went through all
that the other day. But the dog Bass region is
incredibly important. And yeah, the Ukrainian government installed by the
Biden administration, and that's what happened. Crack down too hard
and when anti Russia. You know, I remembered something the
other day that I haven't thought about in the years,

(01:03:50):
so many, many many years ago, and I wish I
could remember who I was watching. I was at an event.
So I was at a nerd event, you know, where
they have a bunch of speaking and the speaker was
talking about the fact that after the fall of the
Iron Curtain, the United States really fumbled the response to

(01:04:10):
the fall of the Iron Curtain, because this speaker maintained
that if we had worked a little harder to allow
Russia to save face on the world stage. And this
is well before Ukrainian I mean, this was in the
late nineties, early two thousands that I that I saw. Whoever,
this was so as well before the conflict that started

(01:04:30):
in twenty fourteen. He said, if we've done more to
allow Russia to save face and bring Putin into the
world stage as an important player, that we could have
stopped a lot of aggression down the road. And I
think about that now, not just in terms of what
we're seeing with Ukraine, but also what we're seeing in Gaza.
Not that we need to install hamas, but how do

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we make the Palestinian people feel enough invested in their
future they don't continue choosing the garbage show, you know,
organizations like AMAS whenever they have free elections, because I
bet you if you had a free election in the
in Gaza right now, you'd probably they'd probably choose some moss.

(01:05:14):
So I don't know, Mandy, you slapped a cowboy hat
on Mayor Johnston, he could be woody on toy story. Correct, correct,
We'll be right back. So I don't know if you
guys saw this, but we have another example this from
coloradopolitics dot com. Let me just read the first part

(01:05:37):
of this story, and this is unfortunate. This this came
out today when Mayor Mike Johnston is at the capital.
By the way, I've kind of deal with Rob Dawson
because we believe that Gabe Evans representative Gabe Evans is
going to be testifying in the next little bit. I'm
not testifying asking Mayor Johnston questions in the next little bit,
but we don't know exactly what time, so we might
be at break YadA, YadA, YadA. Rob is going to

(01:05:59):
roll on it and then we're going to play it
for you, so it won't actually be live, but it'll
be pretty close to live. That way, we don't have
to sit here and have Grant just listen over and
over to figure out what we're doing, so you will. Yeah,
we will be playing Gabe Evans talking to Mayor Mike
Johnston in just a few minutes. So let me just
share this from coloradopolitics dot com. As the number of

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incidents mounted, state lawmakers asked Denver Mayor Mike Johnston to
help provide security due to growing criminal activity and harassment
around the Colorado State Capitol. On Tuesday morning, a body
was discovered on Colefax Avenue, about a block away from
the State Capitol. Last week, police responded to an assault
in the parking lot across the street that spilled over

(01:06:44):
into capitol grounds. Several weeks ago, gunfire erupted along Colefax
in front of the State Capitol, and last week a
legislative aid had to walk into traffic on Colefax to
avoid being harassed by someone yelling in a threatening manner.
Makers and staffers say they're being verbally and physically accosted
as they walk across Colfax to the Capitol, including an

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incident in January in which two lawmakers were yelled at
and then spat on. Representative Dan Woog Woog of Frederick said,
all of us in and out of this building notice
a lot of safety issues. He was one who was
spat on on the first day of the session. Now,

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the reason I read this is because the Republicans sent
a letter to Mayor Mike Johnston and said, look, you've
got to do something. You've got to give us more security.
You got to get police around the State Capitol. And
I just want to share with you the response from
the Mayor's office. Now, he did tell Colorado Politics his

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office is open for a productive conversation on the issue.
Although the statement sent by a spokesperson did not address
the crime and drug use issues around the state capital,
but it did say this. The spokesperson said, in one
of the mayor's priorities is for residents, businesses, and visitors

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to feel safe in the city they work, live in, play.
And then they go on to say this. Now, remember
the letter outlined multiple ways that staff and lawmakers have
been accosted outside the capitol in the last couple of months,
not last year, not two years ago, in the last
couple of weeks, right, And this is what the Mayor's

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office sends back. In just the last year, Denver is
sina twenty three percent reduction in shootings and a twenty
nine percent drop in homicides involving firearms. The city is
building upon that success through proven strategies which prevent prime
before it occurs and increase police presence in areas of
high risk. Planning is underway to further increase outrage and

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safety resources in the downtown area from DPD and other
city agencies, as well as community and business partners. Part
of this strategy will be to increase visibility of officers
in private security to provide a deterrent to crime and
help people feel safer. So essentially, they sent back to

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the letter that said, hey, our staffers are being harassed.
A couple of us have actually been spat on around
the Capitol. And his response is, no crime has gone down.
I mean, isn't that what that says? No crime has
gone down? Your own lived experiences, they're not actually a thing. No,

(01:09:40):
don't worry about it. It's fine, don't worry about it.
I mean, okay, kind of what he did today in Congress,
And like I said, after a representative gave Evans questions,
Mayor Mike Johnston, we will air that in its entirety.
And if you have not seen Jim joy Ordan's who's

(01:10:00):
so good at this? And a text to rightly pointed out,
like I love Jim Jordan's in situations like this, but
where's the when it comes to voting on stuff. By
the way, I secured Representative Thomas Massey on the show
next week because you know, I love him. I love him,
I love him, I love him, and I'm looking forward
to talking about why he voted against the budget cramp Sandwich,

(01:10:22):
although I already know the answer because he's one of
the few politicians in DC that is actually what's the
word I'm looking for. Consistent, That's the word I'm looking for,
this person, said Mandy. I honestly can't get two worked
up about politicians getting spat on. They all deserve it.
I really don't want anyone to be spat on in
downtown Denver or anywhere else. Mandy. Maybe if the governor

(01:10:46):
actually lived in the Governor's mansion, the city would be safer.
You know what, I'm just gonna say it. You are
absolutely right, because if the governor had to deal with
this day in and day out, and have his children
deal with this day in and day out, I get
guarantee you this would have been taking care of a
long time ago. Great point, Texter, Great point, Mandy. Remember,

(01:11:08):
Representative al Green was an honorary paid Chinese professor who
was deeply involved in the Confucius Institutes rollout, you know,
China forever. Great point didn't know that. We'll be right back.

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Coming up at two thirty. My friend doctor Patty is
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But I think with the rise of earbuds and headphone wearing,

(01:12:13):
we are going to see younger people start to have
tonight as even more. And I know many of you
in this audience suffer from tonightas and now I suffer
from tonight as as well. I made it almost thirty
years in radio Grant and I just started getting a
ringing in one of my ears like six months ago.
I come in here sometimes and people have things so loud.
Whenever I sit down after Marty Leunz, I have to

(01:12:35):
I feel like I should sign language to Marty, like
I should sign to him because but it's very common
in radio, because we were headphones for three hours a day. Right,
that's what we do. But nonetheless they're coming in at
two thirty. I would to play the audio of Gabe
Evans questioning may Or Mike Johnston. I have not heard this,
so we are going to hear it together and Grant,
if I give you one of these, can you just

(01:12:57):
hit the pause button because Grant's playing it for me.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
So let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Representative Gabe Evans questioning Denver Mayor Mike Johnson, Denver Mayor Johnston.

Speaker 9 (01:13:06):
I'm a Colorado native, grew up in and around the
Denver Metro area, also Latino, grandson of an immigrant from Mexico,
and I also served for twelve years in the US
Army Colorado Army National Guard and in the Denver Metro
area for another ten years as a police officer. And unfortunately,
as a Denver Metro Area police officer, I've seen firsthand
how public safety in Colorado and in Denver is plummeting.

(01:13:30):
When I started my law enforcement career, Colorado was ranked
thirty first in the nation for our crime rate, where
we were ranked third in the nation last year Denver.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Six years ago, in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 9 (01:13:41):
They didn't even make the top fifty most dangerous States
excuse me, Dangerous Cities in the country list this year.
In twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five, US News
and World Report ranks Denver as the tenth most dangerous
city in the country. Denver has twice the homicide rate
as San Francisco. We've lost more than seven thousand Colorados

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to a legal drug.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I didn't tell you, guys, what just happened. He just
said Denver has more murders at San Francisco. And Grant
and I looked at each other and our mouths were
open at the exact same time. We just wear what.
I'm sorry. Wow, that's not a statistic to laugh at,

(01:14:26):
but I'd never heard that before. Okay, go ahead, nit it.

Speaker 9 (01:14:29):
We've lost more than seven thousand colorad Ands to illegal
drug overdose deaths since twenty twenty, with a significant percentage
of that coming from illegal drugs like fentanyl. And we
know from criminal intelligence that in the Denver, Colorado area,
almost all of that fentanyl is being trafficked by illegal
transnational criminal organizations, the Hosco cartel and the Sinaloa Cartel.

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We've seen a massive increase that this is just a
recent headline. We've seen an increase in tucy, which is
the drug of choice of trendy aarrogua in the Denver
met and we've seen headlines that show that overdose deaths
in the Denver metro area remain stubbornly flat despite falling
in pretty much everywhere around the country. In terms of

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violent crimes, Denver's had over sixty four hundred violent crimes,
So that's including things like six hundred and eighty nine
sexual assaults, over twelve hundred robberies, over forty four hundred
aggravated assaults, and again depending on which database you look at,
anywhere from sixty five to seventy one homicides, again double
the homicide rate of San Francisco. So the first question

(01:15:33):
to you is for those homicides, do you know how
many of those were committed by people illegally present in
the country?

Speaker 11 (01:15:41):
Thank you, Congressman, and happy to answer that because I
think you may have some bad facts.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Happy to clarify them for you. In terms of what's.

Speaker 11 (01:15:48):
Happening in Denver right now is we know crime is
down in Denver from last year.

Speaker 9 (01:15:51):
This reclaiming my timelier, do you know do you want
to answer the free claiming my time. Do you know
how many of those sixty five to seventy one homicides
were committed by people illegally present in the country. And
I'm happy to show all of the sources for my facts.

Speaker 11 (01:16:05):
We don't ask anyone's status at point of arrests. We
do not know someone's status and when they charged. Thank you,
Thank you for the answer, mister Mayor.

Speaker 9 (01:16:12):
And I'm glad you've brought that up because, as you
can see displayed here, we actually have a training bulletin
to the Denver Police Department data January of this year,
which pretty much says what you just said, which is
that Denver Police Department is prohibited from asking for any
infrom about the national origin, immigration, or citizenship status of
any individual. And that's a problem because of the second

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item that we're going to display here, which is the
standard FBI fingerprint card, something that I've filled out for
over a decade when i was a police officer, which
has those items as mandatory fields location of birth and
then the citizenship. And so I've heard being a cop
in the Denver metro area that police officers in Denver
are being told not to fill out those mandatory fields

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in the FBI fingerprint card, which could potentially indicate why
you're unsure of how many of these crimes are being
committed by illegal.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Immigrants in your city.

Speaker 9 (01:17:07):
So the second question is, will you allow Denver police
officers to fill out all of the information on an
FBI fingerprint card to including asking foreign recording the citizenship status.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Thank you, Congressman.

Speaker 11 (01:17:20):
Right now, under city ordinance, we do not ask someone's
status a point of contact, and that does not prejudice
in any way our prosecution.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
We believe it doesn't matter. We're thank you, mister.

Speaker 9 (01:17:30):
So you're not aggressively, so you're not filling out the
FBI fingerprint cards required all right now.

Speaker 11 (01:17:37):
We are filling out information when folks arrive, and none
of that information prevents us from prosecuting them to the
full extent of the law, which is what we do.

Speaker 9 (01:17:44):
Thank you, mister, mayor so not fillbif fingerprint card, which
would directly contradict your statement that you want people who
are illegally present in the country and committing crimes to
be held to account for those crimes. And I think
that the statistics that we've gone through in the space
of crime show why is specifically cratering in their public
safety statistics as compared to major cities.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Around the around the country. Actually false.

Speaker 9 (01:18:08):
I can show you my statistics, and as a police officer,
I am here to make sure that we are uplifting
the voices of the victims of these crimes who are
being taken advantage of in communities that provide sanctuary to
dangerous illegal criminal gangs like Trendy Argua, which your jail release.
Just last week we talked about somebody back into the community.
We must take care of our victims. I've brought legislation,

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the Uplift Act, to focus on this. We're here to
protect the victims and Mayor I would ask you to
join me in that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
We've already doing that. Thank you. So that was Representative
Gabe Evans. He came in hard on pointing out that,
you know, we don't even know how many crimes are
committed by illegal immigrants in Denver, and you know, statistically
it is true that overall people who are immigrants to
the country commit crimes at a lower rate than native

(01:18:58):
born They have more to lose, you know, But that
doesn't mean that we should not be finding out if
people are committing a violent crime, if they're here legally
or not. It does feel more egregious when someone does
not have the right to be here and they're here
anyway and then they kill someone or they drive drunk
or whatever it is and they hurt other people, it

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feels worse because had they simply not been allowed to
break into the country, that particular situation would have never occurred.
So I don't know. You know, it's very very interesting
to hear this back and forth. There's so much posturing
and pontificating by the members of Congress that it's all

(01:19:44):
kind of a show pony thing. We'll see if has
anything ever really productive ever come out of these Oversight
Committee meetings. I'm being genuinely when I asked that question,
because I can't remember anything. I got text messages on
the Common Spirit Health text line at five sixty six
nine er. We'll talk about some of those next. A
lot of people on the text line the Common Spirit

(01:20:05):
Health text line. Mandy, I heard your show was fabulous today.
Where can I hear the entire show? Sorry I wasn't
available to listen. Luckily, you guys can go to the
entirely free iHeart Radio app. And here's I'm not telling
you how to live your life. But after you download
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favorite podcasts, including the Taking It for Granted podcast by

(01:20:29):
our own Grant Smith, who was in today for Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
New episode dropping this evening once I'm off work with
Father Mike Tests once again.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Now you know he's going to be insufferable. If he's like,
what is this five times? Six times? How many times
is this seven?

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
No, he's I'm never going to be able to talk
to him again. His head is going to be out
of control. It is clear in a way.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
The most person, the most what's the word I'm going requested? Yes, yes,
most requested person. And honestly, after I took a couple
months off from the podcast, he was only like six
episodes ago, but I reached out to him and said, hey, man,
I just need some Father Mike time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
There you go, you joined me and it's probably our
best episode. And if you've never heard Father Mike Tests
on this show, you should listen to Grant's podcast. But
here's what you can do. You download the iHeartRadio app
look for the Mandy Connell Show and just make me
your preset, and then you just click that button. I'll
take you to all the episodes and you can listen
to them today. After the show, the podcast will be up.
And yes, the first hour was fire. I just want

(01:21:24):
to let you know I was spitting fire, and I
was spitting truths about the stuff that's happened in the
last twenty four hours. Mandy. Now, please convince Lauren Boebert
to stop wearing bright red lipstick. Mandy, You're our only hope.
Why don't we hate the bright red lipstick. I think
it looks good on her. Un thought she looked really
good last night. I thought she looked great. Yeah, I

(01:21:44):
think she looks great last I don't know what your
beef with red lipstick is. Not everyone can wear red lipstick,
but some women look great in it. I think she's
one of them, Mandy. The FBI fingerprint cards are an
important tool in identifying who an individual is. Everyone is
digitally scanned, and the FBI uses computers to identify the individual.

(01:22:05):
Every military and most government civilians have been fingerprinted. The
Denver mayor is inhibbiting law enforcement from solving crimes. That
was kind of the point that Representative Gabe Evans was making, Mandy.
The point is that the crimes committed by illegals would
not have happened if they weren't here. Thus the lower

(01:22:28):
rates is not relevant. Second, not identifying them as designed
to cover up the consequences of bad policies. That second part,
you're spot on, Texter, But I think I kind of
covered in my last segment how I feel about those statistics.
Because people that are here with good intentions, meaning that
they want to be here because they want to tap
into the American dream, they want the opportunity for their

(01:22:49):
children to have a better life. Those are the people
who are not going to be committing crimes, right. And
then we have the people like the trende Iragua game
members who take over apartment camp complexes and engaging human
trafficking and drug dealing and extortion and intimidation. And all
of those people need to be sent straight back home

(01:23:11):
or I mean, I have him to do a little
time and then let him out of prison and then
deport them. I had no idea that red Lipstick was
so controversial, but now the text line is a light
with conversations about red lipstick. Hey, Mandy, thank you for

(01:23:32):
playing this talking about the Gabe Evans questioning Mayor Mike
Johnston audio we just played. Mayor Mike Johnson is the
worst mayor Denver has ever had. He should be recalled
and booted. He is horrible now, I mean, but this
is what the people of Denver voted for. One thing
I will say about Mayor Mike Johnston. In his defense,

(01:23:52):
he said he was going to do all of these
things in the campaign. The only campaign promise that I
believe he has broken is the one he made on
this show to continue the once monthly appearances that had
been an institution on this program even before I got
here with Mike Rosen for like thirty years.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
That's when I was working your show full Yeah, I'm
in Mayor Hancock, man, what a dude.

Speaker 9 (01:24:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
I really want to have the former Mayor Handcock back
on the show, because even though we disagreed on things,
he always came on the show and we had a
conversation about it, a respectful conversation. But that, for me,
is the big campaign promise that has been broken. We've
we've stopped asking I'm gonna be perfectly blunt. We have
just given up because it's like, how much more of
aid Rod's time do I want to waste? You know,

(01:24:37):
I've been the producer where the host is like, no,
keep asking him. So every day you're sending an email
more annoying than the last one, and the responded I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Saying as a producer is when people just don't even respond,
like at least just say no.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
See, I have now gotten more aggressive about this. As
a matter of fact, I'm about to send one of
these emails on a side project that I'm working on.
If you want to know about that, you need to
follow me on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. I'm either
at Mandy Connell or at the Mandy Connell on all
of those platforms. But I'm trying to get some well
I can't well, never mind, I can't never mind go follow.

(01:25:14):
It's not an iHeart project. So I tried to be
respectful in that manner. Maybe I saw a bad picture,
but the red lipstick and the white and teeth are
too much for me. Could have been filters on the video.
I don't know. Many women look better natural.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Wow, you guys have a really really strong opinion about
red lipstick. Lauren looked like she was wearing a prom
dress last night. No, she didn't. She had a one
shoulder number on. I am fundamentally against women showing their
shoulders in serious situations, like if you are at a
business meeting or you are at a joint session of Congress.

(01:25:54):
Cover up. I just I but I'm old fashioned that way.
I think there's as part of the decorum. It's reason
I have beef with Senator John Fetterman wearing his gym
shorts everywhere. It's like, dude, you're a US senator. Dress
the part you'd always say, grant. They always say to
a dress for the job you want, not the one
you have. Apparently he wants to be a gym coach.

(01:26:14):
He's doing a great job of dressing for us. Yes
it is. When we get back, I have an inventor
on the show that I'm super excited about because he
has created a treatment that is now FDA approved for Tonightis.
And even if you don't have Tonightis right now, it
could be in your future. And let me just say,
it sucks. So we're gonna talk to them about that

(01:26:36):
next Keep it right here on KOA, I know that
we're all reaching a certain age and that our hearing
is going right in the you know garbage. I am
super excited right now to have two guests on the show.
One of them my longtime friend and has really done
so much for Chuck in terms of battling his tonightis

(01:26:56):
doctor Patty from Colorado Tonightis and Hearing Center. Hey, and
she has brought in from across the pond, as they say,
or they used to say, uh, doctor Ross O'Neill, who
has invented something that is an actual treatment for Tonight's
instead of what's been available at to this point, which
are pretty high speed hearing aids that actually mask the
sound of tonightas. And this is kind of revolutionary, doctor Patty.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
It is.

Speaker 13 (01:27:22):
You're right typically, you know, in the last twenty years.
That's when we started our clinic twenty years ago, you know,
really when we started out, all we had was maskers. Eventually,
other products have come out over those last twenty years
that you know, have come and gone unfortunately where we've
you know, tried them for maybe six months to a
year and they've gone. But hearing aids really have been

(01:27:44):
the mainstay of bringing that patient because most of the time,
if there's hearing loss, most of the time patients ninety
percent of patients are going to say they have ringing
in their ears. Right, So if we bring that hearing
up and correct for that hearing and give that brain
back what it's deprived, a lot of times patients will say, yeah,
I noticed some improvement.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
And many years ago, doctor Patty explained to me in
a very rudimentary fashion, what tonight's is, and it is
not an actual ringing. It is that parts of your
brain little little you know, feathers or for lack of
a better way to put it, they're damaged, but they're
still sending or the brain is perceiving them as sending

(01:28:24):
signals that are no longer being accepted. So it's basically
the brain filling the gap of that damaged hearing. I
have explained this to so many people it's not even funny.
So if I'm wrong, you need to correct me now.

Speaker 13 (01:28:35):
And as that no, in your correction is as that
brain has a hearing loss or is auditorily deprived, that
that neurosentury, what we call hyperactive, tries to fill it
in because it's not getting the stimulation, kind of like
a phantom limb syndrome. Right as you cut the foot off,
patients still saying, hey, my foot hurts. So again it's

(01:28:58):
that hyperactivity in ROSK can give you the neuroscience behind it,
but but yeah, it's just bringing that stimulation back up
so that brain is not looking for that signal.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
So doctor Neil, let me come to you, because this
is how did this become your field of study? What
led you here? Well?

Speaker 12 (01:29:17):
Originally, I so, I'm a PhD biomedical engineer by trade,
and I was I was looking at phantom limb pain
actually originally, and then I started to look at the
kind of wider disorders that are related to that. They
are called illusory perceptual disorders. So tenatus is one, you know,

(01:29:39):
So there's one for every sense. Probably the strangest one
is one for vision. It's called Charles bon A syndrome.
It's where you see things, you have non psychotic visual
illusions because so you see things like World War two
soldiers at the bottom of your bed and they're not
really there. And so yeah, it's really really strange, and
I've spoken to some people that have it and it's

(01:29:59):
it's very bizarre. But there's one for every condition, and
I was going to work in phantom limb. But around
about that time, my eldest daughter had profound hearing loss,
so I started becoming more increasingly interested in hearing health.
And I just kept stumbling on this this problem. It
was just seemed like it was just a huge problem
and nobody was really tackling it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
I will tell you because we're about to talk about
brain plasticity, which is a huge thing. My daughter's fifteen
years old. When she was born, she suffered significant brain
trauma during while she was being born. Before actually we
don't know what happened, but it is what it is.
And I had a fascinating conversation with a pediatric pediatric
specialist who said, you know, we know nothing, especially about

(01:30:43):
baby brain plasticity. And the fifteen years since it's made
me aware of all these things. It feels like the
area of brain plasticity has seen a huge influx of
research and curiosity. Is that true or am I just
paying attention to it better?

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
No, I think you're right.

Speaker 12 (01:30:59):
I think with the event of brain imaging technologies and
stuff like that, we've we've discovered that we used to
believe that the brain was kind of hardwired at birth
or soon after, and that's just not true. The brain
wires and re wires constantly over the course of your lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
I mean when I was a kid, it was like,
don't kill those brain cells because they don't grow back,
so when you kill them, you're done. Obviously, I'm improving
that incorrect every single day. So what exactly are we
talking about when you're looking at the signals that are
being sent in the brain, and how does your linear
tree that that you invented, how does that fix that disconnect?

Speaker 12 (01:31:34):
Yeah, so what essentially what's happening in tenitus is that
your brain is paying too much attention to this one
tenesis sound and that's that's not a real sound. It's
an illusory sound that's coming arising from hearing losses.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
You guys discussed.

Speaker 12 (01:31:49):
But essentially what happens is you hear the sound, you
realize it's not a real sound, and you start to
pay more attention to it, and you're kind of frightened
by it. And that combination of attention and fear in
the brain or kind of a ethyl combination. Now they're
the reason that we are top of the food chain.
That's what has led to our survival, but unfortunately, in
the case of tenatus, it works against us. So you

(01:32:12):
keep paying attention to the sound, you keep being frightened
by it, and the more you do that, the more
likely you are to do it. So that's how it
becomes habituated. So we looked every time I talked to
people who used hearing aids for tenatus, they said, the
hearing aids are great, but when I take them off
at night, my tenative spikes and a that gets sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
So we were trying to develop a long lasting hearing aid.

Speaker 12 (01:32:36):
So there's an old approach colpaired associative stimulation that dates
right back to Pavlov.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
And these dogs.

Speaker 12 (01:32:42):
It's where you pair pair one stimulation or one stimulus
with with a reinforcing signal.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
And so that's essentially what we did.

Speaker 12 (01:32:51):
We paired sound that's not the tenative sound with a
reinforcing signal on the tongue and we do that millions
and millions of times over a course of treatment, and
it gradually teaches your brain to pay more attention to
those sounds and less attention to the sound.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
So this is not something you wear all the time. Right,
How does this process work? Yeah, so it's a it's
a home use device.

Speaker 12 (01:33:14):
It's you know, like an iPod, and so it has
bluetooth headphones that you put on, so it plays sounds
through those. And then there's a little kind of lollipop
kind of electrode that goes in your mouth. We call
it a tongue tip, and it has like a you know,
an array of little electrodes, and every time you hear
a tone, the corresponding electrode on the tongue activates, so

(01:33:34):
you're getting it essentially that tone through two senses. You're
getting it through your ear and through your tongue at
the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
So how does this How is it a distraction for
your brain? I'm a little confused on that part of it. Yeah,
so the brain.

Speaker 12 (01:33:49):
If you put a signal in on two different sensors
at the same time, your brain just naturally attends to it.
It's a subconscious kind of phenomenon. And so we're exploiting
that to kind of dilute the amount of attention because
your brain can only give so much attention to only
one percent, so we're it's giving too much totenatus.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
So we're over time or diluting the attention.

Speaker 12 (01:34:12):
It's giving to tenatus and we're forcing it to pay
attention to these other sounds.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Now, are the other sounds catered to? Whatever you Your
tonightis is because I have developed haven't even talked to
doctor Patty about this. This is new, super excited about it.
A high pitch, just like one of those. So would
you formulate or calculate this to that specific noise or
am I giving you the same treatment that my husband
would get.

Speaker 12 (01:34:37):
It's it's basically personalized to your hearing, but not to
your actual tenatus because that can be quite challenging to
kind of, you know, to pitch match people's right, So
it's it kind of doesn't matter, you know, if we
if we basically force your brain to pay attention to
the full spectrum of human sounds, then it achieves the
same effect.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
So okay, I have some very detailed questions from from
people who have texted in on the text line. I
got this one first earlier today, so I want to
get this in Mandy. I know there's various forms of
tonight is how common is it to be related to
a spinal nerve issue? Mostly solved mind says this texture
with upper cervical chiropractic care. It came out of nowhere

(01:35:20):
when I woke up with a kink in my neck.
So what can kick this in?

Speaker 10 (01:35:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:35:25):
So tenosus is a symptom that can have money causes,
and that by far the most common cause is either
you know, hearing loss, measurable hearing loss, or an early
form of hearing loss that we call sign uptopathy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
For hidden hearing.

Speaker 12 (01:35:39):
But there are for a minority of cases. Yeah, it
can be whiplash injuries. It can be TMJ and your jaw.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
It can be tental part of what mine came from.

Speaker 12 (01:35:48):
Yeah, so that's you know, kind of a small percentage
of cases generally there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
That's good news.

Speaker 12 (01:35:54):
So you know you can be you know, it can
fix this through I don't know if a spine doctor
or you know, a dentist, or or if there's some
patients have pulls so it's in sync with your heartbeats.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Oh that sounds awful. The last thing I need to
do is be reminded of my own mortality over and
over and over again all day long. That would be horrible.

Speaker 13 (01:36:19):
Yeah, but that's the important thing is when you come
in us determining what it is why it is because
some people come in they maybe got tentative staff for COVID.
They again, like Ross said, it may be more vascular,
so we would refer you to a vascular surgeon to
make sure, Hey, there's not a corotid blockage or something,
or could be a head injury, or could be high

(01:36:41):
blood pressure, It could be a dental issue.

Speaker 14 (01:36:44):
So the importance is not just plopping.

Speaker 13 (01:36:47):
Something on but really finding out, hey, do we need
to refer you to another medical facility position and rule
out what it is.

Speaker 14 (01:36:56):
Once we've ruled out what it is, then we can
move on to treatment.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Okay, somebody said, Mandy tenetiss not tonightus. The proper Latin
pronunciation is tonight as Charles Harrington Elser, my former speech
guru on this show who has since passed away. We
clarified this a long time ago. People can say it
however they want. I say it in the proper Latin way.
I'm just saying you can say it how you want. Yes,

(01:37:20):
it either is correct. The proper Latin pronunciation is always
the second syllable. Anyway, Thank you, smarty pants texter. Somebody
asked you your point about getting tonight us after a
COVID Mandy, please ask your guests why my tonight iss
is ten times worse after the COVID vacs. I don't
think anyone knows the answer to that just yet.

Speaker 12 (01:37:40):
Well, I get asked that question a lot, and we
actually sponsored some co sponsored some research along with the
British Tennis Association. So in the UK they have this
thing called the Biobank and they can basically research, you know,
kind of population level and medical data, and they didn't
I'll find any correlation with COVID antens or COVID vaccine sytenesis.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
So I've had I've had tonight's before for a brief
period of time when I had a really bad head
cold or really you know, sinus issues, but it's always
gone away. Now it's just clinging there.

Speaker 14 (01:38:16):
How long has that been there?

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
No? Probably three months, four months, two weeks? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Facts so weird. So what, doctor Patty, when people come
in to see you, what is the process for this?
And somebody already asked, does insurance cover this? Insurance doesn't
cover a lot of hearing stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:38:37):
It will cover the a lot of times, it will
cover the hearing evaluation just depending we are a Tenative
Specialty clinic. So when you come into our clinic, you
know we're not going to just do a basic caring test.
We're going to do a full blown medical diagnostic hearing avoalve.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
It takes a long time. I just want you to
know this. It takes a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
To do this.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
A lot of I can hear it, No I can't. Y.

Speaker 13 (01:39:00):
Yeah, So you know, we want to make sure that
we've dotted all of our eyes and make sure that
we know what's going on. So once they've gone through
that full diagnostic evaluation, a real thorough case history, because
that can be everything of how did it start, why
did it start, you know, was it a virus, whatever,
and then really sitting down and talking with the patient.

Speaker 14 (01:39:20):
Are they more bothered by tenatus? Are they more bothered
by hearing loss?

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Things like that?

Speaker 14 (01:39:24):
Are their balance issues? All of those things come into play.

Speaker 13 (01:39:28):
Mostous treatments are not covered by insurance company, which is
insane because they've obviously never had it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
You know what, making people suffer with us is just awful.
It's awful. Now I have another question where there's an
event tomorrow night. Is that full? It is full? Okay,
it is full, but sorry, I'm not sorry.

Speaker 13 (01:39:49):
You never know, we may have some cancelations, so I
mean they could always call in and get on our
wait list, which I would recommend.

Speaker 14 (01:39:56):
So if you call our office, Rebecca, our areana.

Speaker 13 (01:39:59):
Can make your your information because as you know, you know,
whether different things happen, life happens, So definitely, if you're
still interested in coming, definitely you know, calling to get
on the wait list.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
If you really if you know you have tonight this
and you're interested in learning more, the easiest and fastest
way to just be make an appointment at the clinic
right just go to help for ringing dot com. Help
for ringing dot Com is the website. Gohe and schedule
a console. First of all, everyone in this office is
so nice. If you're having a really bad day, just
go in the office and everyone is so nice. It
will arc that alone will make your day better. I'm

(01:40:32):
just gonna say that. But I'm excited to come tomorrow
night learn more about this. So it's very very interesting.
And you brought one of the little one. How did
you feel the zap on your tongue? I mean you
can feel it. It feels like carbonated Yeah, it's just bubbles. Yeah, yeah,
and how long do you have to do this? How
long does the treatment last?

Speaker 12 (01:40:53):
And so it's it's thirty to sixty minutes per day
and it's for like a minimum of twelve weeks, but
that's really be determined by your doctor and then.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
The effects last beyond that.

Speaker 12 (01:41:05):
Well, what all we can say is what we've seen
in clinical trials. So in our clinical trials, we've seen
that for the majority of patients the effect can last
up to twelve months, So that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Do you have any longer studies than that? Are we
still so early in the process that we're waiting to
find out? Okay? Yeah, yeah, we're quite early. Now.

Speaker 12 (01:41:23):
We're continuing to gather real world data. So the more
patients we treat, the more data will have and that'll
kind of inform the future development of the technology. Okay,
but we've been doing.

Speaker 13 (01:41:34):
It for two years and we're still seeing patients maintain
when they finish treatment, so just you know, real world
clinical evidence. When people have come back in for their
follow up, they're like, yeah, I'm doing great.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
And then if it does come back, you could just
do the whole thing again.

Speaker 12 (01:41:48):
Right, Yeah, yeah, we see that patients some patients they
it might come back and they top up with another treatment.
Some patients just love the treatment so much to continue
to use it. I've heard one one patient describe it
as it is daily gin and tonic.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Yeah, you know, whatever works. I mean, Patty, how are
your patients using it practically?

Speaker 10 (01:42:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Like what are they? How are they doing this? Because
I got to tell you, I'm thinking, oh god, thirty minutes,
sixty minutes a day, where am I going to put this?
What are people?

Speaker 13 (01:42:17):
That's a concern which we really do talk with patients,
you know, is this something that you can put in
your lifestyle? But what I find is after most people
get into it, so it's a treatment. We want you
to do it a half hour in the morning, half
hour in the afternoon, right or evening whatever. You're listening
to a very soothing, calming set of tones, kind of
sounds like some motion in the background. Most patients, once

(01:42:39):
they get started, it becomes their me time. Are They're like, cause,
we really want you to sit down, read a book.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:42:45):
We don't want you to playing on your phone. We
want you to just do a puzzle, read a book something.
And that's been the hardest thing of getting people off
of it because they're like, wow, I've kind of enjoyed.

Speaker 14 (01:42:56):
My me time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 13 (01:42:59):
I think it's a way for people to just stop,
take a breath because we live in a very busy world.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
It absolutely does. If you want more information about any
of this stuff, doctor Patty is the only authorized provider
right in our area in the Front Range. In the
Front Range, she's the only authorized provider the Living Your
Treatment system. If you want to try and get on
the waiting list for tomorrow night's event, you can do
that too. Help for Ringing dot Com has the phone number.
Just give them a call and they'll give you a
call if anybody cancels tomorrow.

Speaker 13 (01:43:25):
I did want to mention too, we do have three
veteran VA sites that are fitting, which to me is
kind of after your own heart, which yes, So again
I want to tell people, if you know, if it's
maybe not coming to us, get plugged into the VA system,
because we've got some really good local vas providing that
treatment and we always want to make sure you know,
they get in the right place. So just to kind

(01:43:47):
of inform you on that, if they're really in the
VA system, check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Yeah, and it is fully reimbursed, as I understand from
the for the v Oh that's great to know, because
I got to tell you standard around big guns, we'll
definitely hurt your hearing. Patty, doctor Ross O'Neil, thank you
so much for coming in today. Appreciate everything. I gotta
tell you I have been saying for years. I think
with the advent of earbuds and everybody wearing earphones, the millennials, Oh,

(01:44:12):
it's coming for you. It's coming for you. Okay, so
you can make fun of us all sitting at dinner
with our hands up to our ears, but that's your
future anyway. On that note, Rob Dawson, have a seat
right there, my friend, because now it's time for the
most exciting segment all the radio of It's gone words

(01:44:33):
of that day. Rob's the only one who goes down.
Everybody else Oh gosh, Patty can keep borrow your headphones
so he can hear. Yeah, well we'll do this right now. Okay,
what is our dad joke of the day?

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
Please, sorry for the delay Dad Joke of the day.
I thought that one was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Hopefully you agree turn that music down just to wow
A right job? Yeah, well too, lo you out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
I was wondering if I should go to work today,
and then I saw some guys putting up a giant
rectangle along the highway.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
It was a sign. Oh god, see doctor O'Neil. You
don't have to laugh. Or okay, what's our Lord of
the day. Word of the day? A skew. It's an
adjectives Q means off kilter, off center, sq not quite tidy, correct,
not straight. Here we go, okay, trivia questions. Squid Game

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was the first South Korean TV series to hit number
one on the Netflix Top ten chart in twenty twenty one.
What was the second South Korean TV series to achieve
this feat? I got nothing. I have no idea. Squid
Game two. No, all of us are dead a zombie
surviving series set in a high school. I believe that
was originally called Buffy the Vampire Slab.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
But no.

Speaker 6 (01:45:53):
Great.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Nonetheless, here we are Rob Dawson. May are you in?

Speaker 9 (01:45:59):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
He doesn't even know about you. They don't have Jeopardy
in Ireland. Yeah. Anyway, what's our Geopardy category?

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
State of the onion, state of the So you have
to describe or you have to give which state is
being described, and their sense unable to rebound after their
failure of its Upper Peninsula franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Date it correct, Rob's gonna win this one to day?
Shut up.

Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
Herds of elk and grizzly are permitted to wanton Ley
trample across this commodity rich landscape.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
As Alaska. Yes, is going to go Montana Alaska? The
man Okay, now you just have to say your name
if you want to answer the question. Now that you're
in the game. Okay, okay, then all right. Next one.

Speaker 4 (01:46:59):
It's people have slimmed down by adhering to a strict
diet of just one basket of cheese kurds and the
man it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Is Wisconsin correct? Real time one, I got one.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
The people can be found on pages twelve through one
hundred and eighty seven of the quarterly ll Bean Catalog.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
Rob, what is for a month? Incorrect?

Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
What is me?

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Two to one zero?

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Why did they answer?

Speaker 4 (01:47:30):
Found in New England, it exists solely for the purpose
of describing how big other land masses are.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Manby what is Rhode Island? Correct? There we go, team
on strong, but I'll beat you anyway. Thank you guys
so much for coming it By the way this uh,
this interview will be broken out. I had a couple
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