March 7, 2025 • 14 mins
REP GABE EVANS GAVE MIKE JOHNSTON THE BUSINESS THIS WEEK And you can watch it here if you missed it. He's on at 2:30 today to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What you might have missed when the mayor testified in Congress.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Denver six years ago in twenty nineteen, they didn't even
make the top fifty most Dangerous States excuse me, dangerous
Cities in the country list this year. In twenty twenty
four to twenty twenty five, US News and World Report
ranks Denver as the tenth most dangerous city in the country.
Denver has twice the homicide rate as San Francisco. We've
(00:25):
lost more than seven thousand Colorados to illegal drug overdose
deaths since twenty twenty, with a significant percentage of that
coming from illegal drugs like fentanyl. And we know from
criminal intelligence that in the Denver, Colorado area, almost all
of that fentanyl is being trafficked by illegal transnational criminal organizations,
the Hosco Cartel and the Sinaloa Cartel. We've seen a
(00:47):
massive increase, this is just a recent headline. We've seen
an increase in tucy, which is the drug of choice
of trendy Aragua in the Denver metro area. And we've
seen headlines that show that overdose deaths in the den
For metro area remained stubbornly flat despite falling in pretty
much everywhere around the country. In terms of violent crimes,
(01:09):
Denver's had over sixty four hundred violent crimes. So that's
including things like six hundred and eighty nine sexual assaults,
over twelve hundred robberies, over forty four hundred aggravated assaults,
and again, depending on which database you look at, anywhere
from sixty five to seventy one homicides, again double the
homicide rate of San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So the first question to.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You is, for those homicides, do you know how many
of those were committed by people illegally present in the country.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Now I'm stopping it there to welcome Representative Gabe Evans,
who you just heard asking a question of Mayor Mike
Johnston when he testified this week on Capitol Hill. First
of all, well done on your first congressional grilling there,
Representative Evans. You did a really good job.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, I appreciate it, Thanks so much, and thanks for
having me on.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I will tell you that when I played that on
my show, because we were trying to air stuff as
quickly as it happened, we aired it on my show.
And when you said we have a murder rate bigger
than San Francisco's Both Grant, who was producing the show,
and I looked at each other and our mouths dropped open.
That was shocking, really shocking to see it put that way.
(02:16):
Have you gotten feedback from people who felt like, yeah,
I had no idea until he said that, kind of
like we did.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That's pretty much the response I get everywhere. Unfortunately, Colorado's
crime problem is it hasn't really gotten out there as
much as I think it should given how bad it is.
And that's very, very tragic, honestly, because these are the stories,
these are the lives, these are the tragedies that aren't
(02:44):
being told in this space. And as long as we're
not telling those stories, that continues to give the Democrats
a cover for all of their failed policies.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, you know, it has been really interesting to see
Mayor Mike Johnson and even Governor Pola simply try to
redefine what a sanctuary city is, like they want to
argue about the definition of sanctuary city, when in reality,
it was really apparent under questioning that when forced to
answer questions about did in your case did the police
(03:18):
fill out the nationality and immigration status on the FBI
fingerprint card, that would very much make us seem to
be a sanctuary city that it's blank. Is it frustrating
that they seem to be arguing about a definition and
you're talking about actually what's happening.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's been frustrating since I was a cop. You know
my background. I spent twelve years in the US Army
and the Colorado Army National Guard, another ten years in
law enforcement in the Denver metro area. That's why I
stepped away from law enforcement was because of all of
this gas lighting from leftist leaders that were claiming that
they wanted to protect public safety, but literally at every
turn they were handcuffing law enforcement, empowering criminals, just empowering
(04:00):
our own, local, homegrown criminals. They were opening up Colorado
to international criminal organizations with their sanctuary state policies, and
we see it even now. The governor and the mayor
continue to say till they're blue in the face. Of course,
we want to work with federal authorities to be able
to get people who commit crimes in our community out
of the community, which was why I chose that specific
(04:23):
line of questioning to highlight how are you going to
get somebody who is illegally present in the state or
in the city. How are you going to get that
person out of the community if you don't even ask
them as is required by the FBI fingerprint card, If
you don't even ask them their nationality when they are
arrested for a crime, and when the mayor couldn't answer that,
(04:46):
it highlighted just the absolute gas lighting and the two
faced nature of what they say versus the actual policies
that they put in place which protect criminals who are
committing crimes in our community from deportation, because even when
they're in custody, the cops aren't a lot to determine nationality.
What would you like to see?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean, you're in Congress now, so you're kind of
an arms length in a way from state law in Colorado.
What would you like to see happen here? And do
you believe that sanctuary states or sanctuary cities should have
things happen to them like the SBA being pulled should
they lose federal funding?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So in this space, the question that comes up a
lot is what's the lawful role of the federal government. Well, fortunately,
we have a constitution that tells us what the lawful
role of the federal government is You go look at
the preamble and there's six things listed. The second one
is established Justice, and the fourth one is provided for
the Common Defense. Bentanall is the number one killer of
Americans ages eighteen to forty five. Every month. We lose
(05:45):
more Americans to fentanyl in the entire death toll of
the September eleventh terrorist attacks by quite a bit actually.
And we know where fentanyl comes from. It comes from China,
it's traffic through Mexico, and it comes into the United States.
And so when we have a new administration that has
quite reasonably declared these cartels to be terrorist organizations, that
(06:06):
is clearly within the purview of the federal government under
the established Justice and to provide for the common defense
clauses in the preamble. And so I argue, this is
absolutely a place where the federal government has the lawful
authority and responsibility to weigh in and make sure that
we are protecting Americans from what are quite literally declared
terrorist organization. To help with that, I introduced, as promised
(06:32):
last year, I introduced my first bill in Congress, the
Uplift Act, which uplifts public safety by unhandcuffing police to
locate and interdict foreign transgressors. There's a lot of things
in the bill, but one of the specific things that
it does is it basically holds harmless and indemnifies any
(06:53):
state or local law enforcement officers who choose to do
things like completely fill out the FBI fingerprint card and
be able to work with their federal counterparts to be
able to get violent criminals out of their communities.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Well, I just got a question on the text line,
and I think it's a good one, although I'm going
to massage it a little before I ask you now
to the point about the FBI cards. If it's federal
law to complete the FBI fingerprint cards in a certain way,
why have we put Denver police officers or have we
put them in a position where they're going to be
breaking state law or they're going to be breaking federal law.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, honestly, and anyways they have. That's why I have
said for years now that state and local law enforcement
in Colorado has been handcuffed by these just horrible laws
at the state level and then these terrible ordinances at
the local and the municipal level. Because when you have
a cop that's not able to do what they're supposed
(07:48):
to do as required by the FBI and the fingerprint database.
Of course they're putting them in a very very difficult position.
And so again that's one of the many things that
my Uplift Act is it exerts that federal primacy and says, look,
if you're working to protect the public safety, you're working
to fulfill the oath that you took by getting violent
(08:11):
to legal criminals and drug dealers or the dealers out
of the community, the federal government will indemnify you from
any sort of punitive or retaliatory actions taken against you
by the state or the local government.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I mean, that's incredibly significant. And I had a law
enforcement officer reach out to me via email and he
said that with the decrease in excuse me, the qualified
immunity change in Colorado, there's a lot of fear among
law enforcement officers that if they violate state law, something happens,
they get sued under that qualified immunity, they're going to
(08:47):
be found to be not following state law, and therefore
they're going to be on the hook if a judgment.
I mean, it's like, you have to think about all
this now. If you're a cop. You know, you can't
just go out and do your job. You have to
think about whether or not you're breaking state or federal law,
and which of those is more likely to get you
sued if anything happens while you're on the job. I mean,
it's kind of a mess.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's a total mess. And that's why Colorado has absolutely
abitismal ratings when it comes to recruiting and retaining good
police officers. Nobody wants to do the job in Colorado
right now because of exactly what you said. The liability
is so high, and in fact, again another just horrible
decision by the ruling Democrats in Colorado, they actually put
(09:29):
into state law that anything that is not captured by
a police body camera, the courts are allowed to assume
misconduct on the part of the officer. So in state law,
cops in Colorado are actually presumed guilty and it's up
to them to prove their own innocence for anything that
was not within the field of view or not captured
(09:49):
by body cameras. Who wants to work with that kind
of liability in an already very dangerous and stressful profession.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly. The mayor was on
we have a sound from him earlier saying, hey, they
moved the SBA, but we're not breaking any federal laws.
How is that going to get decided? Representative Evans, who's
going to be the decider on yes, even though you're
playing word games because you're not directly going against the
federal government. But they released a trendy Iragua member into
(10:19):
the streets with a warning to him of how to
handle ICE if I showed up. I mean, come on,
how is that not running right up against the supremacy
of a federal law.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, I mean, I think there's a couple of answers
to that. The biggest one was the American people spoke
about that on November fifth, when they gave a very
clear mandate to both President Trump and then also gave
him conservative majorities in the US House and the US
Senate to go to work with for the next two years.
So I think your first answer is right there, that
the American people are sick and tired of this and
(10:52):
they are ready for a change. And then the second
answer to that is as Trump's nominees continued to be
confirmed to the various different positions, and I think this
is something that you'll probably ultimately see litigated between the
states and the localities that continue to try to pretend
like they're not sanctuary jurisdictions. And I think that you'll
(11:13):
probably see some input on that from the DOJ, the FBI,
and some of these other federal agencies under the new administration.
I have a.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Question, could we pass a bill in Congress that clarifies
exactly what sanctuary status or sanctuary cities are, because then
you have a clear definition of which to proceed.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You could potentially pass something like that. The problem with
the definition is you can't anticipate every single right to it,
and so you have a bunch of folks in places
like Denver that sit around and do nothing other than
dream up ways to try to advance their incredibly liberal
agenda and then say that they're not. I mean, look
at some of the statements that the governor and the
(11:57):
mayor have said. They said, we of course work with
with federal law enforcement when whenever there's an actual crime committed,
and through my line of questioning about the fingerprint card, no,
they very clearly don't. Through Representative Cranks line of questioning
where he was talking about releasing a trend de aar
Agua member in a parking lot. No, they clearly don't.
And so you know, that's just the first thing that
(12:19):
pops to my mind if we if we define this
is they're just going to tell you they're not doing
it anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, sad but true. I mean, I mean really sad
but true. Okay, Representative Evans, you're about to go into
your first like a threatened shut down on the budget.
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Are you ready? Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I got to tell you, there's a lot of people
on my text line and me personally, I don't love
these giant budget deals. I know you're a freshman, but
what influence, if any, do you do you hope to
have on going back to some kind of normal order
for the budget.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah. So there's two things that are happening in the
budget space right now. The first is the continuing Resolution
that was passed in the one hundred and eighteenth Congress.
We're one hundred and nineteenth now. The one hundred and
nineteenth took over on January third, when we're all sworn in.
So the government is currently being funded by a resolution
that was passed in the one hundred and eighteenth, and
that resolution expires on March fourteenth. Now, obviously, back in
(13:15):
the one hundred and eighteenth you still have the Democrats
controlling the Senate, you had Joe Biden in the White House,
and so that Continuing Resolution was not perhaps as favorable
to the conservative viewpoints just because we didn't control the Senate,
we didn't control the presidency. And so where we're at
now is we're actually working twofold number one. We're working
(13:36):
through You've heard President Trump talk about the one big,
beautiful bill and budget reconciliation that is the long term
budget to be able to really fix a lot of
the problems that we're seeing in the United States. But
there's so much to fix. We're not going to get
that package put together by March fourteenth, which is then
(13:57):
where this cr the Continuing Resolution in and then that
is a short term fix to be able to bias
the time to be able to put together this long
term reconciliation package that I think is going to be
incredibly effective in terms of just cutting out basics term
the government.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, I hope you're right. I am encouraged when the
President said the other night during the speech that he
wanted to go to a balanced budget. I got a
little tingle, but we're one of those families. Deeds not words, Gabe,
I mean, you know, deeds not words. So I'm ready
for more, and i know a lot of my audiences
as well. Thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Of course, I'm always glad to be on with you.
What you might have missed when the mayor testified in Congress.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Denver six years ago in twenty nineteen, they didn't even
make the top fifty most Dangerous States excuse me, dangerous
Cities in the country list this year. In twenty twenty
four to twenty twenty five, US News and World Report
ranks Denver as the tenth most dangerous city in the country.
Denver has twice the homicide rate as San Francisco. We've
(00:25):
lost more than seven thousand Colorados to illegal drug overdose
deaths since twenty twenty, with a significant percentage of that
coming from illegal drugs like fentanyl. And we know from
criminal intelligence that in the Denver, Colorado area, almost all
of that fentanyl is being trafficked by illegal transnational criminal organizations,
the Hosco Cartel and the Sinaloa Cartel. We've seen a
(00:47):
massive increase, this is just a recent headline. We've seen
an increase in tucy, which is the drug of choice
of trendy Aragua in the Denver metro area. And we've
seen headlines that show that overdose deaths in the den
For metro area remained stubbornly flat despite falling in pretty
much everywhere around the country. In terms of violent crimes,
(01:09):
Denver's had over sixty four hundred violent crimes. So that's
including things like six hundred and eighty nine sexual assaults,
over twelve hundred robberies, over forty four hundred aggravated assaults,
and again, depending on which database you look at, anywhere
from sixty five to seventy one homicides, again double the
homicide rate of San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So the first question to.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You is, for those homicides, do you know how many
of those were committed by people illegally present in the country.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Now I'm stopping it there to welcome Representative Gabe Evans,
who you just heard asking a question of Mayor Mike
Johnston when he testified this week on Capitol Hill. First
of all, well done on your first congressional grilling there,
Representative Evans. You did a really good job.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, I appreciate it, Thanks so much, and thanks for
having me on.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I will tell you that when I played that on
my show, because we were trying to air stuff as
quickly as it happened, we aired it on my show.
And when you said we have a murder rate bigger
than San Francisco's Both Grant, who was producing the show,
and I looked at each other and our mouths dropped open.
That was shocking, really shocking to see it put that way.
(02:16):
Have you gotten feedback from people who felt like, yeah,
I had no idea until he said that, kind of
like we did.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That's pretty much the response I get everywhere. Unfortunately, Colorado's
crime problem is it hasn't really gotten out there as
much as I think it should given how bad it is.
And that's very, very tragic, honestly, because these are the stories,
these are the lives, these are the tragedies that aren't
(02:44):
being told in this space. And as long as we're
not telling those stories, that continues to give the Democrats
a cover for all of their failed policies.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, you know, it has been really interesting to see
Mayor Mike Johnson and even Governor Pola simply try to
redefine what a sanctuary city is, like they want to
argue about the definition of sanctuary city, when in reality,
it was really apparent under questioning that when forced to
answer questions about did in your case did the police
(03:18):
fill out the nationality and immigration status on the FBI
fingerprint card, that would very much make us seem to
be a sanctuary city that it's blank. Is it frustrating
that they seem to be arguing about a definition and
you're talking about actually what's happening.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's been frustrating since I was a cop. You know
my background. I spent twelve years in the US Army
and the Colorado Army National Guard, another ten years in
law enforcement in the Denver metro area. That's why I
stepped away from law enforcement was because of all of
this gas lighting from leftist leaders that were claiming that
they wanted to protect public safety, but literally at every
turn they were handcuffing law enforcement, empowering criminals, just empowering
(04:00):
our own, local, homegrown criminals. They were opening up Colorado
to international criminal organizations with their sanctuary state policies, and
we see it even now. The governor and the mayor
continue to say till they're blue in the face. Of course,
we want to work with federal authorities to be able
to get people who commit crimes in our community out
of the community, which was why I chose that specific
(04:23):
line of questioning to highlight how are you going to
get somebody who is illegally present in the state or
in the city. How are you going to get that
person out of the community if you don't even ask
them as is required by the FBI fingerprint card, If
you don't even ask them their nationality when they are
arrested for a crime, and when the mayor couldn't answer that,
(04:46):
it highlighted just the absolute gas lighting and the two
faced nature of what they say versus the actual policies
that they put in place which protect criminals who are
committing crimes in our community from deportation, because even when
they're in custody, the cops aren't a lot to determine nationality.
What would you like to see?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean, you're in Congress now, so you're kind of
an arms length in a way from state law in Colorado.
What would you like to see happen here? And do
you believe that sanctuary states or sanctuary cities should have
things happen to them like the SBA being pulled should
they lose federal funding?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So in this space, the question that comes up a
lot is what's the lawful role of the federal government. Well, fortunately,
we have a constitution that tells us what the lawful
role of the federal government is You go look at
the preamble and there's six things listed. The second one
is established Justice, and the fourth one is provided for
the Common Defense. Bentanall is the number one killer of
Americans ages eighteen to forty five. Every month. We lose
(05:45):
more Americans to fentanyl in the entire death toll of
the September eleventh terrorist attacks by quite a bit actually.
And we know where fentanyl comes from. It comes from China,
it's traffic through Mexico, and it comes into the United States.
And so when we have a new administration that has
quite reasonably declared these cartels to be terrorist organizations, that
(06:06):
is clearly within the purview of the federal government under
the established Justice and to provide for the common defense
clauses in the preamble. And so I argue, this is
absolutely a place where the federal government has the lawful
authority and responsibility to weigh in and make sure that
we are protecting Americans from what are quite literally declared
terrorist organization. To help with that, I introduced, as promised
(06:32):
last year, I introduced my first bill in Congress, the
Uplift Act, which uplifts public safety by unhandcuffing police to
locate and interdict foreign transgressors. There's a lot of things
in the bill, but one of the specific things that
it does is it basically holds harmless and indemnifies any
(06:53):
state or local law enforcement officers who choose to do
things like completely fill out the FBI fingerprint card and
be able to work with their federal counterparts to be
able to get violent criminals out of their communities.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Well, I just got a question on the text line,
and I think it's a good one, although I'm going
to massage it a little before I ask you now
to the point about the FBI cards. If it's federal
law to complete the FBI fingerprint cards in a certain way,
why have we put Denver police officers or have we
put them in a position where they're going to be
breaking state law or they're going to be breaking federal law.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, honestly, and anyways they have. That's why I have
said for years now that state and local law enforcement
in Colorado has been handcuffed by these just horrible laws
at the state level and then these terrible ordinances at
the local and the municipal level. Because when you have
a cop that's not able to do what they're supposed
(07:48):
to do as required by the FBI and the fingerprint database.
Of course they're putting them in a very very difficult position.
And so again that's one of the many things that
my Uplift Act is it exerts that federal primacy and says, look,
if you're working to protect the public safety, you're working
to fulfill the oath that you took by getting violent
(08:11):
to legal criminals and drug dealers or the dealers out
of the community, the federal government will indemnify you from
any sort of punitive or retaliatory actions taken against you
by the state or the local government.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I mean, that's incredibly significant. And I had a law
enforcement officer reach out to me via email and he
said that with the decrease in excuse me, the qualified
immunity change in Colorado, there's a lot of fear among
law enforcement officers that if they violate state law, something happens,
they get sued under that qualified immunity, they're going to
(08:47):
be found to be not following state law, and therefore
they're going to be on the hook if a judgment.
I mean, it's like, you have to think about all
this now. If you're a cop. You know, you can't
just go out and do your job. You have to
think about whether or not you're breaking state or federal law,
and which of those is more likely to get you
sued if anything happens while you're on the job. I mean,
it's kind of a mess.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's a total mess. And that's why Colorado has absolutely
abitismal ratings when it comes to recruiting and retaining good
police officers. Nobody wants to do the job in Colorado
right now because of exactly what you said. The liability
is so high, and in fact, again another just horrible
decision by the ruling Democrats in Colorado, they actually put
(09:29):
into state law that anything that is not captured by
a police body camera, the courts are allowed to assume
misconduct on the part of the officer. So in state law,
cops in Colorado are actually presumed guilty and it's up
to them to prove their own innocence for anything that
was not within the field of view or not captured
(09:49):
by body cameras. Who wants to work with that kind
of liability in an already very dangerous and stressful profession.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly. The mayor was on
we have a sound from him earlier saying, hey, they
moved the SBA, but we're not breaking any federal laws.
How is that going to get decided? Representative Evans, who's
going to be the decider on yes, even though you're
playing word games because you're not directly going against the
federal government. But they released a trendy Iragua member into
(10:19):
the streets with a warning to him of how to
handle ICE if I showed up. I mean, come on,
how is that not running right up against the supremacy
of a federal law.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, I mean, I think there's a couple of answers
to that. The biggest one was the American people spoke
about that on November fifth, when they gave a very
clear mandate to both President Trump and then also gave
him conservative majorities in the US House and the US
Senate to go to work with for the next two years.
So I think your first answer is right there, that
the American people are sick and tired of this and
(10:52):
they are ready for a change. And then the second
answer to that is as Trump's nominees continued to be
confirmed to the various different positions, and I think this
is something that you'll probably ultimately see litigated between the
states and the localities that continue to try to pretend
like they're not sanctuary jurisdictions. And I think that you'll
(11:13):
probably see some input on that from the DOJ, the FBI,
and some of these other federal agencies under the new administration.
I have a.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Question, could we pass a bill in Congress that clarifies
exactly what sanctuary status or sanctuary cities are, because then
you have a clear definition of which to proceed.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You could potentially pass something like that. The problem with
the definition is you can't anticipate every single right to it,
and so you have a bunch of folks in places
like Denver that sit around and do nothing other than
dream up ways to try to advance their incredibly liberal
agenda and then say that they're not. I mean, look
at some of the statements that the governor and the
(11:57):
mayor have said. They said, we of course work with
with federal law enforcement when whenever there's an actual crime committed,
and through my line of questioning about the fingerprint card, no,
they very clearly don't. Through Representative Cranks line of questioning
where he was talking about releasing a trend de aar
Agua member in a parking lot. No, they clearly don't.
And so you know, that's just the first thing that
(12:19):
pops to my mind if we if we define this
is they're just going to tell you they're not doing
it anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, sad but true. I mean, I mean really sad
but true. Okay, Representative Evans, you're about to go into
your first like a threatened shut down on the budget.
Are you ready for this?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Are you ready? Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I got to tell you, there's a lot of people
on my text line and me personally, I don't love
these giant budget deals. I know you're a freshman, but
what influence, if any, do you do you hope to
have on going back to some kind of normal order
for the budget.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah. So there's two things that are happening in the
budget space right now. The first is the continuing Resolution
that was passed in the one hundred and eighteenth Congress.
We're one hundred and nineteenth now. The one hundred and
nineteenth took over on January third, when we're all sworn in.
So the government is currently being funded by a resolution
that was passed in the one hundred and eighteenth, and
that resolution expires on March fourteenth. Now, obviously, back in
(13:15):
the one hundred and eighteenth you still have the Democrats
controlling the Senate, you had Joe Biden in the White House,
and so that Continuing Resolution was not perhaps as favorable
to the conservative viewpoints just because we didn't control the Senate,
we didn't control the presidency. And so where we're at
now is we're actually working twofold number one. We're working
(13:36):
through You've heard President Trump talk about the one big,
beautiful bill and budget reconciliation that is the long term
budget to be able to really fix a lot of
the problems that we're seeing in the United States. But
there's so much to fix. We're not going to get
that package put together by March fourteenth, which is then
(13:57):
where this cr the Continuing Resolution in and then that
is a short term fix to be able to bias
the time to be able to put together this long
term reconciliation package that I think is going to be
incredibly effective in terms of just cutting out basics term
the government.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, I hope you're right. I am encouraged when the
President said the other night during the speech that he
wanted to go to a balanced budget. I got a
little tingle, but we're one of those families. Deeds not words, Gabe,
I mean, you know, deeds not words. So I'm ready
for more, and i know a lot of my audiences
as well. Thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Of course, I'm always glad to be on with you.
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