04-01-25 FULL SHOW - Our Futurist Pops In, and Help Some Kids Compete!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connell and KA ninety one FM.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
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Speaker 4 (00:22):
By Donald Keithy You sad bab Welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Welcome, QA Tuesday edition of the show one of the
rare shows this week where I will have a full
three hours. I am your host, Mandy Connell, joined by
my right hand man.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
He's Anthony Rodriguez. We call me Ronald, and we were just.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Discussing the Rockies woes in the bullpen again her mad
Marquez e er a zero And then you want me
to read the relievers who worked you know?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, no, you don't, you don't.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Anyway, moving on, we have a lot to talk about,
so let's jump into the blog. Shall we go to
mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the
headline that says four one twenty five blog our futurists
pops in and helps some kids compete. Click on that
and here are the headlines you will find within tick
Tech two.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
In office South American, all with ships and clipments and
say that's got a.

Speaker 6 (01:29):
Press class.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Today On the blog Thomas Fry pops in at one
want to win a catered suite for a Rockies game?
Why school choice is so critically important? This year's Colorado
budget is three point three billion more than last year.
Some judges break the rules to donate to Democrats. Moner
arch is offering thirty nine dollars tickets for spring skiing. Yes,

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the Broncos are doing a new stadium. What the heck
is going on in Lewisville? This seems pretty high to
me for mass shootings. Send it working towards getting Trump's
agenda done. The NRA is suing over the excise tax
I don't hate deportations, but due process is necessary. We've
got a measles case in Pueblo, A case of voter

(02:14):
fraud sends a woman to jail.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
When do we leave.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Conversations and move to stories? Voice of America is too
far gone to save? Is chatting with an AI bought cheating?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Of course? The Yankees hired a physicist.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
To make bats the left's imaginary COVID and Biden cover
up wreckgnings. A representative John Kennedy is a national treasure.
About that guy who just put the FDA Doorbell's broken.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
But they have a fix about that third Trump term.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Scrolling. This kid is America's hero. Watch your nasty wash
your nasty water bottles. Those are the headlines on the
blog at mandysblog dot com. And I just want to say, ay, Roy,
do you sent that video of how to wash nasty
water bottles? That's an article maybe six months ago this
said one of the most germ ridden items that we

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have in our possession on a daily basis are reusable
water bottles because people don't wash them properly, so they're basically,
like enough, a little jug of disgusting germs. That's what
you're drinking out of your reusable water.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
But does anyone hate washing water bot as much as
I do?

Speaker 7 (03:24):
Because, no matter how long your rents and I do
the where you take the thing from the sink, yeah,
the soap, yeah, no, the prayer, the sprayer, and I
put it upside down. I move my water bottles that
way really gets all the soap out. And I still
don't think I get it all out.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Here's what I do.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
I put soap in there, I clean it, I dump
the soap out, I fill it with water.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I dump it out.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
I fill it half with water. I put the lid
on a shake, shake, shake, shake, shake, dump it out.
Fill it with water one more time. Shake shake, shake, shake, shake,
dump it out. Fill it one more time. Chake chake, shake, shake, shake,
dump it out.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Try the sprayer thing. It helps well. I you know,
it's like an active like getting it all out for
a reason.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
I feel like shaking the water bottle aggressively, so somehow is.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Moreel like that makes more sides, more soap, more time
giving the soap out.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Though by the third time you can see there's only
a tiny bit of soap and then you just kind.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Of squirt it out. You're done. Tiny bit.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
But a Rod has a video on the blog today
where we show you how to do it in the dishwasher,
and I'm just gonna have a moment. This is not
an endorsement for Bosh dishwashers. Okay, just had to buy
a new dishwasher because our other dishwasher crept.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Out, And unlike some people who are like you know,
I just start.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Need a dishwasher, I'm past the point in my life
where I want to do dishes for the rest of
my life.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
So we bought a new dishwasher. This wash dishwasher. It's
so quiet that you honestly are like, is it is
it running? I mean, is it working?

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Holy cow, it's delightful. I remember the dishwasher when I
was a kid. It sounded like an army of dishwashers
were in the kitchen, rattling everything around as they tried
to get them cleaned.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
This thing whisper quiet.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
So if you're in the news or in the market
for a new dishwasher, let me just say, Bosh, big fan,
we now are Bosh fridge and Bosh dishwasher people, and
I regret nothing Mandy.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Three billion dollar.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Budget increase and a one billion dollar budget shortfall.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
How does this make sense? Steve?

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Well, Steve, thank you so much for asking. And as
a matter of fact, why don't we start with Colorado's budget,
Because if you've been paying attention to the local news,
you have seen over and over and over again.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
The Colorado had a massive budget hole. It was so big,
it was one point three billion dollars that they had
to fill.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
And these brave members of the Colorado legislature they went
up there and they did their best and they finally
managed to hack away at the budget. So uh yeah, oh, God,
come on, denverk is that I really should log in
before I do this so it doesn't stop me when

(05:59):
I'm trying to read this. But the budget that has
been introduced, forty three point nine billion dollars is this
year's budget, and that is a balanced budget, okay, because
we have a balanced budget amendment here in Colorado, and
they don't have any choice but to balance budget. We
can't print more money like they do in DC. So

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lawmakers have introduced in the state Senate the legislation setting
up the twenty twenty five twenty six budget, which contains
hundreds of millions in dollars in funding, cuts, transfers, and sweeps.
The spending plan comes in at forty three point nine
billion dollars. I'm reading a story by Marianne Goodland in
the Denver Gazette. Now, as soon as I saw that

(06:42):
this spending plan comes in at forty three point nine
billion dollars, I immediately went, well, what was.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Last year's budget?

Speaker 5 (06:51):
So I looked it up, and in case you were wondering,
last year's budget was three point three billion dollars less
than this one. It was forty one point six billion dollars. Now,
you've heard about how all these we have to make
these drastic cuts to the budget. It's just we've had

(07:11):
to take a chainsaw to the budget. And if this
doesn't clearly demonstrate that the issue is not that they
don't have enough of our tax money or that they
don't have the ability to raise taxes on us without
our permission, the issue is that the legislature, which is
completely controlled by Democrats.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
And here's the thing, you guys, I would love to
be able to tell you that this is both parties faults, right, like, oh,
those jerks in the legislature, But the.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Colorado Democrats control both houses of the legislature to the
level that the Republicans are almost they don't even have
to consult them anymore, that's how outnumbered they are. So
this is definitely a democratic issue. And what happened was
what had happened was that made all this happen, these huge,
massive budget shortfalls that we're seeing right now, is that

(08:04):
Colorado legislators used one time COVID dollars to start new
programs that we're going to need ongoing funding.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
And we've talked about this.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
I've talked about this for years and years and years
and years and years upon years. When I talk about
how everything is going to get more expensive in Colorado,
it's in large part to the new programs, new state employees,
new agencies that have been created since twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
They're not going away.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Right, They're still going to be there, and the government
is going to try and have to figure out a
way to fund these programs that they started with either
syntaxes or they started with one time federal dollars, So.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Steve, that's how they overspent.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
They overspent on ongoing programs with one time dollars, and
then when those one time dollars ran out, they ran
around telling everybody that we have a budget shortfall and
it's only going to get worse. The drum beat about
the budget shortfall is going to go like this is
my prediction, Arod, make sure we mark the tape on this,
because it's very important. You are going to be told

(09:08):
over and over and over and over again by the
Democrats in Colorado that if only we did not have
the limitations of the taxpayer's Bill of Rights, we would
be able to do everything you've ever wanted from a government.
We be able to, we practically be able to give
everybody a free unicorn. The roads would be picked and fixed,

(09:30):
all of the children would be able to read on
grade level, if only it weren't for that terrible taxpayer's
Bill of rights. Now, let's be clear about what the
Taxpayer's Bill of Rights does. It simply says you can't
raise our taxes without asking us, and government can only
grow by a formula of population growth and inflation. Does

(09:51):
that sound horrible to you? I mean, does that sound awful?
Absolutely awful. And they're going after the Taxpayer's Bill of rights.
They're going to tell you that tabor is the problem,
and that Tabor's the reason that we're going to have
to fire all the teachers and all the policemen and
probably all the firefighters in any other position that works

(10:12):
for the government that you like, we're gonna have to
fire them first if we don't get rid of taper.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
But it would be so much worse if we did
not have.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
The protections of the Taxpayer's Bill of Rights in place,
because over the go go years of the COVID free
semi money that was flowing to states and you and me,
we would have had even more spending and we would
be in a bigger budget hole right now. The reality
is is that taper's one of the greatest things that

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any government has ever had levied on them, and I
would love, love, love to see them try to repeal it,
because the problem is, I don't know who's going to
agitate against it, because everybody that's got their hand in
the government's pocket, right, anybody would as government contracts, anybody
works for the government. They hate taber because it prevents

(11:06):
the uh, the kind of overspending that benefits those people.
So there you go, this text, or Mandy, this is
why taber was voted in to prevent overspending. Correct, correct, Hi, Mandy,
I love my bosh dishwasher washes everything, including Yetti water
bottles quietly, and the dishes are so clean. Yep, yep, Hi, Mandy,

(11:32):
I thought you had a fifteen year old dishwasher living
in her house rent free. I do, but there are
occasions when she is at school and doing other things
where the dishes still have to be washed and I'm
not doing it. I've lived in way too many apartments.
How many apartments have you lived in that didn't have
a dishwasher?

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Ay?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Rod, Now you're a lot younger than I am how
many apartments I've lived in places I've lived, I'm at
like forty homes right now. I'm probably half that.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
It feels like I feel like every single one has
had one.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
For I'd say twenty years, I did not have a
dishwasher for a variety of reasons. One I lived in
really cheap apartments that didn't have dishwashers. Or I lived
in a house with a septic tank that would not
accept a dishwasher because the septic tank was too small.
So I've gone without dishwashers for like twenty years, and
I'm just not doing it anymore. There's certain things, there's
certain privileges that come along with reaching a point in

(12:29):
life where you are making decent money and you have
a little bit of extra scratch, right, you got a
little walking around money, as they say, and you're not
gripping about paying seventy five cents for guacamole a Chipotle, right,
I mean, these are all you get to that point
and you can actually say I'm not going to do
that anymore because I don't have to. I can buy
myself a new dishwasher. Mandy, I'm already hearing people complaining

(12:51):
about Taber on nextdoor. I mean, couldn't you just insert
any word for Taber on that sentence and have it
be true.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Mandy. I'm already hearing.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
People complaining about rain on next door. Mandy, I'm hearing
people complain about Trump on next door. I mean, it's
just well, that's what next story is. That's why I
love it so so very much, so so very much.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Ralph not gonna mention the truck terror attack in Boston.
What truck terror attack? I literally have the news on
in here andtack Boston.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Let's see what's going on there. No, no, yeah, we
got nothing. Oh wait, twenty two minutes ago, truck strikes
pedestrians in downtown Boston. How do we know that was
a terror attack? How do we not know that the
guy just handed like a heart attack or something. We'll
wait on that until we jump to conclusions. A little

(13:47):
bactery is good, Mandy. I only shower twice weekly, and
I don't remember the last time I got sick. That's
because nobody wants to be around you close enough to
give you germs. Ew you ever know, they're all staying
ten feet away. Could be your funky body.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
O, it's not social distancing friend. You stink? Yes, I
mean I didn't say you stink.

Speaker 9 (14:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (14:09):
I mean you probably stink. Sorry, probably, I'm not going
to assume, but you probably smell.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Yeah, Mandy, the Dems bypass tabor by creating fees or taxes,
but by calling them fees. Yes, you are correct, you
are correct. Anyway, I'm skimming through these making sure I
don't need Mandy spends three hours washing her water bottle. Loll,
I'd rather buy a new water bottle. And that's the

(14:35):
darnting truth. Yeah, but then you got the packing people's germs.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
You still got to wash it. Do you think Ross
spends more time washing his water bottles or his legs?
I bet you Ross has not washed a water bottle
in his lifetime, even dishwasher. I mean maybe dishwasher. Yes.
He just seems like the kind of guy who would
be like, ah, the germs are good for me.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
You know, I have a water cup that I use
here all the time, and I take it I like what,
I wash it here in our sink in the kitchen,
but then I take it home like once every month
to run it through the dishwasher, just to like sanitize
that bad.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Boy, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
An analogy on the budget increase, The dem legislators are
the pimps, The folks who are employed by the news
programs and departments are the whores, and the taxpayers are
the John's.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
You know what I wish?

Speaker 5 (15:22):
I hated that analogy, but is it completely wrong? This
texter said, we do not currently use our dishwasher. I know,
I know you're better than me.

Speaker 10 (15:36):
I'm fine.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yes, the Bosch dishwasher is Bosh eight hundred. It's very
common dishwasher and you can find it at the big
box stores if you want, Mandy. The biggest thing I'm
able to do as an accomplished adult is to buy
quality toilet paper.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
See that right there.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
When you're able to go from the Scott single sheet
thousand sheets per role to something with a little more
cushion that you really feel like you made it, you
know what I mean, you really feel.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Like uh huh. There was something.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
This is so random, but I was in a thrift
store once and I saw this super cool ice bucket,
you know, like an ice bucket like you put ice
in for fancy parties and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
And I was like, I am gonna buy an ice bucket.
And I bought that ice bucket, y'all. I felt so
fancy For like two weeks. I was just feeling fancy.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
I'm like, I own an ice bucket that in and
of itself feels really amazing. Until my brother said, yeah,
it's all fun and games. Still, somebody pukes in the
ice bucket at a hotel room, and I was like, mmm, oh,
this is a really great idea. Denture tablets the best
to clean water bottles. Just throw one in two and

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let it soak.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
There you go, There you go.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Anyway, Mandy, I married my dishwasher thirty years ago. My
problem is keeping her quiet. Oh my god, I'm just
gonna hope your wife isn't listening to this program right
now because she may recognize your snarkiness in that. Coming
up a little bit later on the show, at two
thirty the Q, my daughter will be making a return

(17:16):
appearance with one of her teachers from her high school.
They are doing a raffle to raise money so their
kids can go compete at the Skills USA contest where
they get to show off their crime scene investigation skills,
which is I wish they'd had that stuff when I
was in school, Like my high school was so boring
compared to what they offered her high school.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
But that's another story for another day.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
And they're doing a raffle, and the raffle involves me,
and the raffle involves a suite at the Rockies game,
and they're selling tickets.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
You get to hang out in the suite with me
and Chuck.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
And bring ten of your closest friends and we're going
to provide food, but you got to buy your own booz.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Because it's a school raffle.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
But we'll talk to them at two thirty about what
we're doing, why we're doing it, and how you can
help some kids go and demonstrate their superior crime scene
investigation techniques. Oh this is this is perfect text. I
have a wine fridge and feel fancy. Oh yeah, yeah,
see what what have you purchased? Listeners?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
What? What?

Speaker 5 (18:16):
What thing did you get for yourself or you bought
for yourself that made you feel fancy?

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Right?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
A house?

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, house, well, that's yeah, that'll make you feel look
at adultado, that'll make you feel like an adult.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Though.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
You know when you buy a house, you're like, well,
I am next level adult, right, now Colorado.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
It is fancy, but I'm talking about more superfluous things
that make you feel fancy. You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
This person said, buy an ice maker and you'll really
feel fancy. Oh yeah, Mandy, I know I made it.
When I can fill my gas tank without having to
watch the cost and make sure I don't go over
a set amount.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Oh for each on that one?

Speaker 5 (18:56):
That is that is so so accurate, so accurate, Mandy.
We have our cleaning lady come once a month, and
that is our one luxury. Guys, having a cleaning person
even once a month is the greatest gift you can
give yourself ever, ever, if you can afford it. It

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is magical to just not have to clean your bathrooms,
not have to mop your floors.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Oh it's delightful.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
We're gonna take a quick time out when we get back.
I've got a bunch of stuff that we're just gonna
jump into wildly because Thomas Fry's coming up at one o'clock.
He's a really cool idea to kind of revolutionize the
way we teach. We'll talk to him at one, but
when we get back, we did the budget. We're gonna
talk about a new study that shows once again how
important school.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Choice really is.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
On the text line, I asked the question, what is
something that you bought that made you feel a little fancy?
And holy macaroni did I get a lot of responses.
I'm just gonna through some of these because some of
them are so great, so so great. A wine decanter, Yes,

(20:09):
how can you not feel fancy if you own a
wine decanter?

Speaker 3 (20:13):
A brand new infinity X two x eighty of a day,
the days are very affordable.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Luxy Loo, The Luxy Lou has changed our pottygoing life.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I love it. Coffee maker that grinds the beans, that
is fancy. My brother when he renovated the house.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
He bought, he put in a whole built in espresso
maker and I was like, Oh, look at how fancy
that is. A brand new house made me feel like
a baller, says this texter. A custom suit, A three
hundred dollars tent ten You're loin states Mandy. I bought
a nugget ice maker and I can't live without it.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
The first time I felt really fancy and like an
adult was my first place in college when I bought
scented trash bags.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Whoo ooh, ooh ooh eggs and twenty twenty five exactly
a rod.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
I bought eighteen eggs at Sam's Club for six dollars
and forty three cents pasture raised, not just cage free.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Then we got them relatively cheap. Recently as well, I went.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
To Sam's Club for the first time. I'm a Costco girl.
Be a Costco girl for third term. Well, I got
a free membership to Sam's Club, so we went and check.
They got a lot more junk food at Sam's Club,
like straight up a lot of junk food at Sam's.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Clock, but they got a lot of good healthy stuff.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Well, Sam's Club feels more like Costco used to feel,
which is where you go when you need to fill
the vending machine.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (21:37):
So they have the boxes anyway. I don't mean don't
try the hot dog. It's not as good. I tried
the pizza. Not as good.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah, just saying a Japanese kitchen knife, instant hot water heater,
mac lipstick. Yeah, you gotta get a loan to get
the mac lipstick there, Mandy. I felt fancy when I
bought a bows wave radio that I still have back
in two thousand one. A lot of you are buying
the little poop ice makers, you know, little tiny nugget

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ice makers.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I purchased Wait.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Hang on a fifth wheel. No more laying on the
ground ground What you can't read that on the air?
Mandy has the que looked into intern positions at the CBI.
They have a good program for aspiring CSI kits.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I have not, Mandy. I started getting a.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Monthly massage and now can't imagine life without it. Me too,
Texter vovasage, kin care and spa. It's where I go
once a month. Seem a girl, Laura. Uh, maybe a
short list of things I enjoy about being an adult
and things that make me feel like an adult. I'm
on my feet all day on ladders, and so I
now buy decent shoes. I also have a pair of
prescription sunglasses finally, instead of ruining my regular glasses with

(22:46):
clip ones?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Does along with that? Does a haircut every two and
a half weeks count? Because yeah, feeling good? It's real
pricey And we we did the math. Yeah, how much
you spend on haircuts annually? Oh, let's see forty times.
There's twenty two weeks, twenty six. I call it twenty yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Roughly a grand Yeah, if it makes you feel better,
I spend more than that a year.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeap, Let me tell you. You get hair done every
six weeks? Oh wow?

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Well yeah, go yeah, every six weeks, and it's a
lot more than forty bucks.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
We bought our first house twenty five years ago and
inherited a washer and dryer. To this day, I still
even after all the upgrades, and so very grateful that
I don't have to go to a laundromat anymore. So
very fancy, one hundred percent Mandy. I bought a rooftop
tent for my SUV so I could tell all my
camping buddies it's over Anakin and I have the high
ground in my best Ewan McGregor voice. M Yes, Mandy,

(23:47):
I bought round ice molds and fancy whiskey glasses. There
you go, privileges of age having someone do your taxes
for you. That actually is you cross a rubicon with
your taxes. Right, you buy a house, you realize you've
got deductions, and then you're like, maybe I should pay
and see if a tax preparer could do a better

(24:08):
job than I. Do, and the first time you just like,
you know, ten forty easy your taxes. And then you
have a tax prepare your taxes and they're like, oh,
you're getting back to gazillion.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Dollars and you're like, wait what.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah, paying a tax preparer is the greatest investment that
you can make. Stop buying toothbrushes at Goodwill, Now that's
just gross. You can environ them at the Dollar Store
and they're only a dollar. Mandy, Oh my gosh, this
person must be extremely wealthy. A complete set of law
Crusette cookware. I don't have that kind of scratch laaning around.

(24:41):
I have to sell a kidney or something, Mandy. A
car that you could go above fifty and not die. Yes,
that's always good, Very good, Mandy. Can we talk about
al Costco won't let you go through the exit door
to the food court. Makes me crazy to have to
go through the store, squeezing through the check out just
to grab a hot dog before we go shopping, thoughts.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I have never had that issue. I've never had that problem.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
I always walk through the exit door and just say
I'm going to the food court and they're like okay,
and then I walk back out the exit to get
a cart and then go back in after I am
done at the food court.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
A pedicure once a month.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Correct, yes, yes, cleanex tissues, no toilet paper or paper towels,
fancy cleanex fancy toilet paper, even fancy paper towels, all
that stuff. Oh, an Italian espresso machine for Gila.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Must be Italian. He let's see. I think that's it.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
You guys delivered a whole box of cigars, and depending
on what kind of cigars, that could be extremely expensive.
I felt fancy when I could first buy name brand
laundry detergent. That is kind of special. Little bit, Mandy.
Hate to break it to you, but everything at the
Dollar Tree.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Is now a buck fifty. Ha huh. I was just
at the Dollar Tree. I love the Dollar Tree. If
you need like stuff for a.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Party, napkins, plates, whatever, for a kid's birthday party, and
you're going anywhere but the Dollar Tree, you are wasting
so much money, all of coal. Even at a buck fifty,
it's a bargain at twice the price a coach purse.
You know, for a lot of women, especially young women,
when you're able to go out and buy yourself a

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luxury item like a coach bag that you have long
seen other way. That is like a moment when you
are able to go out and buy yourself something like that.
That is a status symbol that says, you know what
I have made it. I've never really been that person.
I don't think I have like I don't think I
have fancy purses.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
I just can't do that.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
I'd like to buy a beer car in my fancy years,
but I cannot afford the increase in insurance a beer car.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'd like to buy a beer car, it says a
beer What could a beer car be? Beer? What does
that mean? A beer car? Let's find out. Oh, here's
one for you.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Ern I now use call girls instead of picking them
up off the street. Makes me feel like the guy
from Pretty Women. Okay, yeah, Mandy passed my number off
to the other guy who bought round ice cube molds
and fancy bourbon glasses, so we can sit around having
the fancy argument about whether the whiskey or bourbon is
better whilst sipping.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
From water from crystal. The answer, my friend, is yes,
yes it is. If it makes you feel good, do it.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
There's a couple of different variations of beer car. I
don't know if they mean like a literal car shape
like a beer bottle or what.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
I don't know what a beer car? Oh, a better car? Better?

Speaker 5 (27:54):
That makes more sense, A better car, it will, but
it doesn't make a lot of sense on that, Mandy,
I just bought a cast iron bunt pan. It's just
ridiculously heavy. What do you think cast iurn is going
to be?

Speaker 7 (28:07):
I think we're going to be in the new pans
every like, maybe six months, as soon as it starts sticking.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Boom, new set, new set or just no, no, no,
you're not full new set.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
Replace the one that needs to get replaced in Okay,
just do it more often, don't stick with the bad one?

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Is that looking for?

Speaker 5 (28:23):
And I won't do this as a whole segment because
this went way longer than I thought. But I'm just
so amazed at the stuff that made you guys feel fancy.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I love that. I do have a question, though, if
anybody has non.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Sick cookwad that they really really really love all of
my Calfalon nonstick that I've had some of it I
had for twenty years and I use it all the
time is finally crapping out, so I am like ceramic
non sick, curious when you're making omelets, but they're so
well I use a Tromatina omelet pan for that. I
just replaced that thing all the time. What it's a

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brand Tromatina is is like when you go to a
buffet and they cooking eggs or an omelet station. You
know the little round pans they have right there. Those
are almost all like Tremantina is the brand.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
It is. It's just a brand name.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
But they last for a really long time, and they're
like fifty bucks or whatever.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
So I just get a new one of those. But
I'm talking about the rest of it.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Email me that information Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com.
When we get back, we really will talk about school choice.
You know, we talk a lot, or we have talked
in the past about school choice, and the movement is
definitely gaining steam nationwide, especially under the Trump administration as
they work to eliminate the Board.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Of Education and all that bureaucracy.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
That has accomplished nothing when it comes to student achievement.
And today in the Denver Gazette, it might have been
in yesterday's paper, it was report finds school zones contribute
to education inequalities in Colorado. Now already, I'm annoyed by
this because it's not school zones that create inequalities. It

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is the students and the families that reside in the
various zones that lead to inequalities in schools.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
That being said.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Conducted by the Colorado Advisory Committee to the US Commission
on Civil Rights, the report is based on a series
of web and in person hearings in twenty twenty three
attendance zones. This is from the report contribute to educational
inequities by reinforcing geographic disparities in access to high quality schools.
Witnesses testified that families in high income areas are significantly

(30:27):
more likely to have access to top schools compared to
families in low income areas. The report highlighted research conducted
from various organizations including Ready Colorado and Education group that
advocates for school choice, and then it goes on to
talk about the other people. For example, the reports cited
in a twenty twenty Ready Colorado study found that just

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six percent of those living in low income areas have
access to quality elementary schools, compared to twenty four percent
for those in high income areas. The disparities widen at
the middle and high school level, with a majority of
low and middle income communities lacking meaningful access to quality schools.
And then it goes on to kind of explain how

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the zoning creates, you know, good schools, bad schools and
all this stuff. One of the things that we are
not talking about at all. And this is a significant issue.
And this is rather explosive for me to drop right
here because we have Thomas Fry in the next segment.
But guys, there are significant cultural differences with people who
live in poverty and people who don't when it comes

(31:32):
to education, and we have to start talking about those
significant cultural differences. And the easiest way to explain this
in a non offensive way is this. Everybody loves to
talk about Asian students and how highly they achieve.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Are their IQs any higher? No, they are not.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
The difference for Asian students, especially first or second generation
Asian students in the United States of America, is that
their families aggressively promote, push and support education for their children.
They don't tolerate poor grades, they don't tolerate bad behavior.
They make sure their kids come to school completely prepared.

(32:11):
Their homework is done, not by the parents, but the
homework is done, and they send those kids to school
to learn. That is a cultural norm, which is a
positive cultural norm. And I have had enough very close
friends and relatives teach in a variety of schools to
say with certainty that when you go into a school

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in a poor neighborhood, you're going to see just exponentially
more issues with behavior, issues with a complete lack of
respect for the entire system, and issues with students being
in schools who don't want to be there, who are
there all day, every day to disrupt the learning opportunities

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for everybody else.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
And that's just a fact.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
And that's not race based, because when you look at
overall testing, poverty is a better indicator of failure in
schools than anything else. Doesn't matter if the kid's white kid, black,
Hispanic kid.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Does not matter.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Poverty is the strongest indicator. But we have to start
recognizing that there are families who are going to send
their kids to schools completely unprepared, that don't value the
education that their kid is supposed to get, and we
have to figure out a way to direct those kids
into another direction, so they don't disrupt the learning opportunities
for the kids who are there to learn and new slash.

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There are kids in every school who are there to learn.
There are parents of kids in every school who send
their kids there with the intent to have them learn,
and they support them, but they are far outnumbered in
cases where either parents have very low educational attainment, if
any at all, and discipline has broken down to the

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point where teachers and administrators are completely powerless to maintain
discipline in the schools. It's not just the zo it's
the kids that are in the zoning and the parents
that are in the zoning.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
But I have no idea how to fix that problem.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
When we get back Thomas Fry speaking of education, he
has a crazy idea that is a great idea. He
wants to reimagine how we teach economics and before your
eyes gloze over, economics is the most important class that
we are teaching badly every single day.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
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Speaker 3 (34:28):
No the architect of the future. The future is now.
It's futurist. Thomas Fry on the Mandy Connells show you
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Speaker 5 (34:49):
And all right, we are that for our once monthly
visit with our favorite futurist, Thomas Frye. All he does
is moulting over about how great things are going to
be in the future. And listen to my paranoya about robots.
That's what this entire segment is about. Good to see
you again, Thomas.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
Yeah, great to see you, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Let's talk.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
I was cheering with my my friend Ross who does
the show right before me, and you know, I dabble
in economics, right, that's fun for me on occasion, but
he is a hardcore economics nerd. And when I sort
of laid out a super brief explanation of your idea
that we're going to flesh out here on the show

(35:34):
about how to fundamentally change the deep teaching of econ
one oh one, he was intrigued. He was He was like, oh,
but this is more than about teaching economics. This is
really about the future of education. So let's start with
where did this thought come from that we need to
reimagine how we are teaching people in the twenty first century.

Speaker 10 (35:57):
So I first got the idea when I I was
playing around with, well, if you handed econ one oh
one to a filmmaker, a filmmaker would look at it
and say, ah, you know, we can put some storylines,
we can make this add some drama to it. We
can make much more interesting and much more memorable at
the same time, and then people would retain it.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
And I thought, I think we could actually get people
to compress the amount of time it takes as well.
And so then we.

Speaker 10 (36:30):
Started thinking through it like what if somebody was a
game designer, then you get people to come in and
just game their way through it, to play this whole
game and learn the economics as they're playing the game.
I thought, Wow, everybody'd want to take that course because
it'd be so simple. And then I started thinking about

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it from lots of different angles too. But if we
had a comedian that was trying to teach economics and
he turned every one of the principles into a punch line.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
So uh that that seemed like seemed like a lot
of fun.

Speaker 10 (37:05):
So then then I put together this whole idea, this
this whole uh competition if you will, for econ one
on one called the Intellectual Olympiad, and I thought, well,
what if we put a million dollar prize on this
and see if we can compress everything into two hours.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
What would that look like?

Speaker 10 (37:30):
And so it's it's kind of has a few untested
ideas in this, but I think it has the makings
of something that has interesting potential.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Well, I agree with you on that front.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
And this isn't just about economics, but but you chose
economics because essentially economics one oh one is teaching the
same thirteen principles as part of economics one on one,
so those are pretty standards. So this is a very
standardized course. Is that why you started with economics or
is it because traditional econ one courses are so boring

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that people check out mentally even though this is an
incredibly important topic that we should be discussing.

Speaker 10 (38:09):
Well, I don't know about the boring part of it.
I think that depends on the instructor. But as far
as this is something that's a stable piece of education
that's taught virtually every college around the world, it's the
same as biology want to one, chemistry one to one,
world history one on one, things like that. But I

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thought economics is one that had the potential to do
something that was real interesting. And then I thought, well,
if we take this and we offer a million dollar
price to the person who wins it each year, and
something substantial to each of the runners up too, then
every year then the winners would become the.

Speaker 6 (38:52):
Baseline for the next year.

Speaker 10 (38:54):
So we would build on what we're doing, So one
year we should get it done in two hours, and
the next year we do it in much more interesting fashion.
And maybe at the end of seven or eight years
we would decide to drop it to ninety minutes or
drop it down to one hour, even to see if
we can do it in that fast. But I think

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this has the potential if we do this for ten
years in a row. We can't even imagine what's going
to come out of the back end. So this is
a process to get to an unknown outcome, and I
find that just fascinating.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Why are you even looking at shortening the time of
a sixteen week course to two hours?

Speaker 3 (39:39):
What is the benefit here?

Speaker 10 (39:42):
Well, what's growing up is the college system has become
very bloated, and it seems like most college courses the
instructors are figuring, well, what else can I add to
this course to make it equal the three hours that
they're going to be in class this week. And so

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we're paying for all the time we spend in class,
and we're paying so much. We're paying very dearly for
everything we learned in college, which is way more expensive
than everything else we could learn free off the internet.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
So this just seemed like a much a very interesting approach.
And as a result of this, I'm not sure how
this changes the systems. It may change it, it may
not change it.

Speaker 10 (40:31):
After three years, it might throw into toll and say
this is totally broken. Let's not do this anymore. But
I think it's worth trying.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
One of the reasons I really like this is because
we have we have shifted our and I'm talking about
K through twelve, So let's go back away from college
for a moment, but we've now shifted the focus. You
hear teachers and administrators and people in education say this
all the time. We don't want to teach kids what
to think. We want to teach them how to think.

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But if they do not have a good foundational knowledge
about about something a topic like economics, how are they
supposed to be able to critically think about something When
they don't have that foundation of knowledge in the first place.
So in my mind when I'm thinking about this, imagine
being able to cram all of the concepts in an
engaging way of Economics one oh one into a two

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hour presentation, right, or a two hour board game or
a two hour video game or whatever. And you play
that day one in your Economics one oh one class
if you want to keep the same structure that already exists.
Now you've imparted that knowledge base with that two hour thing,
and then the rest of the course is taking that
knowledge base and.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Expanding on those concepts.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
So I see this being like a complementary part of
the current educational system, because I believe that the university
system is so intractable that they don't want to change.
This is the way they do it, This is the
way it's always been done. They still have plenty of demand,
people are still willing to pay the money. But we
could totally use this to create that foundational bit of

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knowledge and then allow for longer, bigger discussions when you're
coming from a place of knowledge instead of a place
of stupidity.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
Well, that's that's certainly what approach.

Speaker 10 (42:19):
There's lots of I think this opens the doors for
lots of possibilities, and if nothing else, I think it
kind of u turns things up. It just tries you're
trying something new, and that's going to make a bunch
of people uncomfortable in the process.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Oh yeah, for sure. But I'm already when I read this.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
I read this column and I linked to Thomas's column
on this on the blog today at mandy'sblog dot com
look for the latest posts, and the headline today is
four to one twenty five blog Our futurist pops in and.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Helps some kids compete. It's in there.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
I read it this morning and immediately my wheels started turning.
Because there are there are very simple books economics. In
one lesson, there's also the Pencil by Lawrence Reid, where
he just uses a single lead pencil to explain economies
of scale and all of these other economic principles.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
But I think this stuff is super cool, and I think.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
That this has a lot of applications in terms of
allowing teachers to then teach and expand on a subject
without having to get bobbed down in figuring out how
to impart this initial thirteen principles in the first place.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
So I think this is revolutionary Thomas. But this text
asks a good question, who puts up.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
The million dollars? Who would invest in this? Do we
need to do a GoFundMe?

Speaker 10 (43:40):
I actually think if there's a legitimate group that wanted
to run with this, that the funding would be a
no brainer for a lot of companies, whether it's Toyota
or Coca Cola.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
Or or whoever it might be. They're going to get
a lot of press.

Speaker 10 (43:59):
And I think that's that's a small piece of the equation,
and it could probably be much more than a million
dollars each year.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
It could probably even be five or ten million dollars.
That might be doable.

Speaker 10 (44:11):
And then once once you open the door on economics,
then maybe you have the opportunity to open the door.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
On what does calculus one on one look like? Running
it through something like this.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
I just start when you heard the word joculous one
world history.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
Looks like.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
Yeah, imagine I mean, right now, my daughter's in APUs
history and our teacher gets up there and lectures about
a thing, and then they have a conversation about it.
But imagine if we were able to impart these nuggets
of information of knowledge and then allow teachers to just
lead the discussions about those nuggets of knowledge in a
way that's engaging for people.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I'm not kidding, Thomas.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
I already started making a board game in my mind
about the thirteen principles of economics. I'm thinking, you know,
I've thought about the games that we've played in the past.

Speaker 10 (45:00):
Life.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
The game of life should be an economics lesson, but
it's not. And then there's another game, an old game
called Payday. And I don't know if you ever played pay.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Day, but Payday was set up like a month, right,
and you get you have to pay taxes on this day,
and you've got to you get paid on this day,
and you got a bill unexpectedly on this day. And
when my my daughter was really little, we would play
that with her and she would be like, well, amount
of money, and I'm like, welcome to life. This is
a great way to do this. So I think stuff
like this is uh is is the wave of the future,

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especially as attention spans get shorter and shorter and shorter
because of social.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Media, and we're seeing that that's not made up, that's
a real thing. So I love this idea.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
I we just got to make it happen. Maybe we
should write a grant proposal, Thomas, do you know how
to do that? Because I don't know how to do it.

Speaker 10 (45:53):
I think we could figure that out. Yeah, I think
this has great potential. I would love to somehow involved
in making it all happen.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (46:04):
I had a group last year in Poland I thought
was going to run with this, but they had a
lot of changes and so probably from the Ukraine War.
But it seemed like they were all set to run
with it and then everything changed at the last minute.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
Poland has done some really amazing things as of late
when it comes to free market economics. I mean they've
really sort of embraced the Austrian school of economics and
their economy is responding in kind.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
So Mandy this.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Textter said, it already exists. It's called monopoly. We raised
our kids playing by the rules and it gets pretty cutthroat.
Now our eight grandsons fifteen and twenty two all play.
Granddad and Grandma usually make it sweeter with twenty to
forty bucks going to the winner. A monopoly, though, is
a real estate game. The laws of economics go well

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beyond real estate, and I think Thomas the really important
part here that we're kind of us and over is
that out of all of the classes that we take
and that we teach our kids as they're growing up,
economics really is the one that impacts every single aspect
of our lives.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
It really does. So this is a great place to start.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
Yeah, I mean there's lots of other games.

Speaker 10 (47:18):
I mean, if you're playing scrabble, scrabble is all about
accumulating points which could be translated into money. That even
playing cards. There's lots of card games that have some
similarities to some of these principles and economics, but it's

(47:40):
much more than playing games. Is there just another way
of impartying this knowledge, way of making it so it's
easy for people to absorb this making And I think
that's what we what education should all be about, is
giving us the easiest possible way of learning these subjects matters. Now,

(48:01):
when I went to college long time ago, it always
seemed like we had these weeding out classes that they
purposely made more difficult than they had to because they
wanted to weed out the people that they didn't think
should be there. And I think that's the wrong approach.
I think we need to make all this stuff easy
to learn.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
The sad fact of the matter is that when I
went to college, which was maybe a little bit after you,
but not much. Maybe at the same time that weed
them out tech, you know, attitude was very prevalent. But
now colleges are having to remediate students who were coming
out of high school completely ill prepared for college. So
talk about the shoe being on the other foot. I
would argue that schools are making it too easy for

(48:44):
students who are not college material to stay in college
and continue to spend money taking remedial classes, and they're
never going to finish and get their degree. They're just
going to end up with a lot of debt. That's
a whole other conversation that we could go on about
quite a bit there.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Thomas, let me ask you this. I'm going to ask
if you've.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
Given any thought to something that I think is critically
important in education, and that is basic literacy. I saw
a horrifying statistic in Chicago. There are like forty five
schools in the Chicago public school system where zero percent
of the children can read on grade level zero, not

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a single child.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
This is becoming an.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Epidemic because if we have a population that can't read
or write.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Holy cow, who's going to work in our nursing homes?

Speaker 10 (49:31):
Thomas So years ago, this is the late nineties. I
had a good friend, William Crossman, who wrote a book
called Vivil Voice In and Voice Out, and he was
talking about.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
Us soon being able to.

Speaker 10 (49:51):
Talk to our computers and the computers would talk back,
and then he drew the conclusion that by twenty fifty
that literacy would be dead. He says that we've become
a verbal society and we just talked back and forth
to all of our machines and we don't have to
learn standard literacy. And the audiences that he gave that

(50:14):
talk to would become violent. Want to throw them off
the stage, because there's hardcore literacy advocates they're around.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
But he brought up a lot of interesting points.

Speaker 10 (50:26):
I kept asking him, how do you do math problems
if you can't write them down? Yes, I have to
look at things before I can actually make sense.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
Out of them. And he says, well, I don't know,
but somebody will figure it out. And he might be right.

Speaker 10 (50:43):
He might be right, but I know that if we're
a total verbal society, that that's very disruptive in places
where there's lots of people around.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
And I also know that doesn't give us room.

Speaker 10 (50:57):
To think through things quite the same way, and it
just changes kind of the way we know how to
do things.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
I would take it one step further.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
I would say that that assumes that there will be
no disruption in electronics, in the ability to tap into
the machines and the machine learning. But this feels very
much like the old olden times where the historical tradition
was the only tradition. And we know what happens when
stories get passed verbally from person to person, they get

(51:28):
distorted in incredible ways. So my concern would be a
we would lose the ability to even interact with our history. Right.
This is one of my beefs about cursive writing. Kids
today that can't read cursive can't read the founding documents,
so then they have to rely on someone else to
tell them what's in it. I feel the same way
about this, And if there was you know, if people

(51:49):
were essentially functionally illiterate and had to rely on a
computer and that computer goes away, what happens.

Speaker 10 (51:56):
Then Well, one of the things I've been talking about
is that within ten years, we're going to be wearing
smart glasses that will actually see everything that we see
and hear everything that we hear, and it will be
with a few censors added to it. It will actually

(52:17):
be able to record all the things that we touch,
we feel, we taste, and spell, and so the whole
human experience, the whole life experience, will be recorded and
stored on our personal cloud. And so this idea of
having a personal cloud, they're like eight years down the road.
You remember something on page two hundred and sixteen of

(52:40):
the book Catcher and the Rye.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
You want to go back and read that section again.
You can recite it verbatim because you've had that recorded. Now.

Speaker 10 (52:50):
Are we going to have that ability moving into the future.
I'm not sure, but that's what it looks like to
me at this point. So that's that throws out all
the traditional education out the window. But worth I suddenly
going to have this massive information that we have started

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out there that we could draw in any moment, and
in a.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Post apocalyptic world, none of that matters, Thomas. When the
robots take over and they take away all of our computers,
we've got nothing anyway. Thomas Frye an interesting conversation. As always,
I'm always interested in any ways that we can make
learning more.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Accessible and more fun.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
And I'm genuinely going to look around to see what
foundations we can do a grant proposal to to create
this prize. So this is going to be the Thomas
Frye Prize for Education Revolution.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
That's what we're going to call it.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
We just have to get a couple million bucks to
make it happen. So you leave that to me, and
we'll make this happen.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Thomas. Good to see you again, my friend.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
Hey up to work with you on that.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Thanks, I love the idea. I'll see you next month, Thomas. Well, jeez,
all right, let me do this and that and we'll
be right back after this.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
So the snitch line is coming along nicely. Hey, Rod,
you were here when I said, Hey, if there's Malfi's
and sor Shenanigan's going on in your local communities, send
me an email. And people have been now, some of
them I have been trying to look into. But the
smaller the town, the harder it is to find good information.
And somebody sent me an email about the Lewisville Fire Department.

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Some time ago, I reached out to the only person
I knew in Louisville. They don't know anything. But today
same emailer sends me a link to a sub stack
called fired Up Louisville. It's written by a woman named
Tanya Samoru. I might be massacring her last name if so,
I apologize Tanya for that. But the reason I bring

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it to your attention is because if you live in Louisville,
you really should know what's happening there. And the reason
I created the snitch line is because a lot of
people have a tendency to see things happening in other
areas and sort of go, oh, well, that's over there.
I don't need to worry about it. But they're not
even paying attention to what's happening in their own communities

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and their own counties, in their own spaces where they live.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Right So.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
This Tanya, she has done a bang up job pointing
out some of the glaring issues that are happening. Apparently
Louisville's city Hall is quite dysfunctional.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Listen to this.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
First, the biggest thing in the history of Louisville happened,
the Marshall Fire. While Superior put off many projects and
reassigned some of its most experienced staff and resources to
manage their fire recovery. Louisville's previous city manager, the city
manager just left. Louisville's previous city manager tried to handle
the disaster without sufficient staff, while keeping almost all of

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the city's pre fire agenda on track. Many felt the
city did not do enough to support the mental health
of staff, who understandably became burned out. Over the last
two years, a number of experience, highly valued employees, mostly women,
have left the city, including most.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Recently the well respected city clerk. Then, scandal struck when
our prior.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
City manager resigned eight months ago, waiving his six month
severance pay, presumably to halt in investigation into conduct that
would have been made public if completed. Council accepted the
resignation and decided to keep the reason they put him
on leave secret. The director of human Resources was also

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put on leave at the same time and resigned. And
that's just like a tiny little snippet of what's happened
in Louisville right now. I mean, that's kind of Craig
Ray got people resigning. I've got other stuff about other
small towns when in Louisville, apparently the fire department has
had some significant financial irregularities, and yet the woman who

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kept the books was just allowed.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
To retire.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Instead of saying, wait a minute, well where's the money,
which should be the standard. By the way, where's the
money should be the first question when asking about stuff
like that. There are so many stories like this happening
in local communities, and I'm grateful that the internet has
now made it so this woman Tanya, and I'm not
even gonna try your second.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Soma soma uru.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
I'm just gonna guess she can out put this stuff
on the internet and everybody in Lewisville can read it,
everybody in the small towns around the area that they're
having crazy just we have the power, you guys. When
you gather up enough people in your community, and it
doesn't have to be fifty percent, it's got to be

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allowed five percent, allowed ten percent, and you start asking
hard questions and you start demanding hard answers, you can
have a huge impact on the efficiency and how your
government has run.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
But it's a slow process.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, just by
putting this blog post up, the people in Louisville are
on notice. That's not how it works. It probably means
they'll circle the wagons even harder. But we spend so
much time looking at Washington, DC and talking about stuff
that's happening in Washington, DC that genuinely is not going
to have a.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Single bit of impact on our daily lives.

Speaker 11 (58:14):
No.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Granted, there's stuff that is going to have a big impact,
I get it.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
But the people that are at the city council, the
city managers, the people that are making rules on how
fast you can rebuild your house, these are the people
that fly under the radar. And to be clear, I
am not disparaging everyone who works for a city council
or who's on a town council, who works for a
city government. That is absolutely not what I'm doing here.

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But the reality is without citizens to hold people accountable,
there are going to be bad apples who abuse their
position and abuse the citizens that they are supposed to serve.
And with the just you guys cannot understand. I mean,
maybe you can't understand. I don't mean to be condescending
when I say it like that, but working in this

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industry and knowing people who've worked for newspapers who are
for a very long time. The reason we all got
newspapers was to read about our local stories.

Speaker 11 (59:10):
Right.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
We wanted to see local coverage. We wanted to see
our friends and neighbors, you know, in the paper doing
good things. We wanted to see those things in the newspaper.
That's the newspaper where I grew up, right, And I
grew up in a small town, so I was in
the newspaper and a ridiculous number of times when I
was a kid, because we were involved in stuff, you know.
But now all of those newsrooms have been absolutely decimated,

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and I'm using the word decimated correctly here in that
some newsrooms have gone from ten people to one person,
twenty people to two people, and they simply don't have
the vanpower to go to these meetings and pay attention
to the city manager, like this woman has now taken
it upon herself to do this. On Fired Up Lewisville
a substack that you can find and I linked to

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it today.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
If you live in Louisville, subscribe, pay attention.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
If you live in any other community, ask around, get
on your next stoor, ask on your Facebook page, Hey,
is there anybody reporting a local government on a blog
or a website or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Because there are people willing to do this right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
They are willing to watch the city council meetings, they're
willing to watch the county commission meetings, and they're willing
to report on it. We just have to accept them
on their offer of Hey, this is what's going on.
But there's definitely some questions that need to be answered
by Lewisville. I'm going to reach out first. I'm going
to reach out to this writer. I can't message her

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for some reason on this platform. I don't know why. So,
but this is the kind of stuff that I love
the Internet for. I tell people all the time the
Internet has been a great democratizer, right it is made
an audience accessible. Now, whether that audience is going to
find you or not remains to be seen. And finding

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the right places to go on the internet can be challenging.
This is what I'm saying, Hey, ask around, ask about
who's writing about this, Ask about who's the thorn in
the side of your city council, your county commission. And
I'm not saying they're right, by the way, just because
they're a thorn in the side. Does not automatically give
them some kind of moral high ground, because rabble rousers

(01:01:24):
can also be wrong. But the reality is we now
have a better opportunity to hold our elected officials accountable
because people like this woman Tanya are doing the work
for us.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
We just have to consume it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
So the reason I'm going on this long spiel is
if you live in Louisville, now you know where to turn,
you know where to subscribe.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
It's on the blog today at mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
But what I want to know from the rest of you,
is there anybody else in your community? And I don't
care if it's Sterling, I don't care. If it's Durrango,
I don't care if it's Parker, I don't care if
it's Lyttleton. Are they writing about local government? If so,
send me that information and I will amplify it. Unless
it's just moron, you know, being a crank, because there

(01:02:07):
are those people out there who it wouldn't matter if
you know the town council was made up of Jesus Christ,
God and Mother Teresa. They'd still find everything wrong with
what they're doing. But I'd love to know if you
guys are aware of this stuff because this is critical
for us doing a couple of things. Number One, you
worry about the direction that Colorado is going, it's all

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happening at the local level. Two And if you really
want to make a difference, you got to make sure
that you're aware of the people that have been elected
and are electing people that are going to run the
state and your city and your town and your county
commission the way you want them to. And the easiest
way to do that is to pay attention what to
the people in the office what they're doing. Now it's
super simple, so you can always email me if you're

(01:02:51):
aware of good reporting, you know, like the people in
Lakewood that are working on keeping that park you know
up and running. This woman in Louisville that is reporting
on all of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
We have to help them get an audience.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
We have to make it easy for people to follow
along and hold people accountable. And this is one of
the greatest things about the internet period. We'll be right back,
and when we get back, a new study from the
University of Colorado has come out with some data that
just seems unlikely to me. And I want to ask

(01:03:25):
you if it seems unlikely to you. So nothing in
the text line that I need to share. This story
from CBS, one out of every fifteen American adults have
been at a mass shooting. This according to a University
of Colorado's study. Now, in case you're wondering, I did

(01:03:47):
the math on seven percent of the population of the
United States of America. Our current population is roughly three
hundred and thirty three million and change. I rounded seven
percent of That means that, according to this study, two million,
three hundred and thirty seven thousand, three hundred people have

(01:04:07):
been at a mass shooting event. This study defines a
mass shooting as an incident when four or more people
are shot in a public space. The research comes. This
is all from CBS News as those in the Boulder
community gathered four years later to remember the twenty twenty
one King Super shooting that took the lives of ten

(01:04:29):
people and impacted countless others. And then it goes on
to talk about Erica Mahoney, whose father was killed in
that horrible incident, and then they I'm skipping here. She
has a podcast now to talk about gun violence.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
Her podcast guests will be David Peruse, a professor of
soci sociology and criminologist at the Institute for Behavioral Science
at CU Boulder. His episode will break down his new
study that came up with the data behind the one
in fifteen, or about seven percent of US adults on average,
that have been at the scene of a mass shooting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
He says, it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Means you're in the direct vicinity to where you could
see the shooter, there were bullets that were fired in
your direction, or if you couldn't directly see the shooter,
that you could hear the gunshots. Now hear the gunshots
opens this thing wide open. And I think it is
a really misleading part of the statistic because.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
If I'm a block and a half two blocks away,
I can.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
Hear the gunshots. You could hear gunshots for very, very
very big distance. But I don't know, he says, mass shootings,
you know, they occur across the world, but you know
in the United States there's just such a concerted interest
and focus on it. We should aim to understand this better. Well, yeah,
but I mean, does that number seem incredibly incredibly bad?

Speaker 8 (01:06:01):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
Yeah, you are right, Texter, it's closer to twenty three million.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
You're correct.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
I just did the math in my head. That's what
I get for using a computer to do that math
for me. A lot of you are just sharing Jimbo's
sentiments that I can't read on the air. Starts with
b ends with T anyway. Anyway, this just seems a

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little bit outrageous and not helpful because this would mean
that basically everyone I mean in your friend or if
you should have at least one person out of twenty
that has been at a mass shooting. Now here's another question.
I have mass shootings where four more people are killed.
A lot of those are gang related violence, and are

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some of those people at those mass shootings also involved
in other mass shootings because they're involved in a life
of violence and crime, and it would stand a reason
that they would be more likely to be part of
a mass shooting incident. This just seems it's I see
you know what, though, here's the thing. They have to

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make everyone afraid of a mass shooting in order to
be able to take away all the guns. That's how
totalitarians have disarmed the population over and over and over again.
They make everybody incredibly afraid. Hugo Javas did it in Venezuela,
they had out of control crime, and Ugo Chavaz said,
you know what the problem is the problem is guns.

(01:07:35):
We've got too many guns in Venezuela. So now we're
going to restrict access to guns. You cannot have guns anymore,
and it's all to make you safer. We're going to
create a safe utopia where no one can shoot anyone
else because everyone has turned in their guns. Now, any
rational thinking person knows that criminals are not going to
turn in their guns. And guess what, you guys, you

(01:07:58):
want to know why Venezuela were reduced to eating zoo
animals and why millions of them have had to flee
their country because they don't have weapons to overthrow the government.
Just like in the Gaza Strip, you know who as
the guns Hammas? You know, doesn't everybody else being oppressed
by hamas. That's why we talked briefly about the protests

(01:08:23):
that popped up last week where people were shouting down
with amasa. You know what happened to the student leader there.
He didn't get deported from the Gaza Strip. They killed
him and left his dead body on the step of
his family's house to let him know what happens that's
what you get when you disarm the population. In this study,
I will reach out to this gentleman and ask him

(01:08:44):
to come on and explain his data, because I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
He's got a ton of data.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
I'd be very interested in seeing where he came up
the twenty three million people have been involved in a
mass shooting situation.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I frankly, I just I don't believe it, not at all. Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
Just want you to know that I messaged Tanya for
you to let her know you want to speak to her.
I don't know her personally, but we share groups on
Facebook and had shared this story earlier this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Thank you for that. I appreciate you, definitely appreciate you. Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
My wife was shopping several blocks from.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
The STEM school on that day, so she is in
the statistics. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
Maybe she is, maybe she isn't, But this just seems
like a study I wouldn't have necessarily run with right
away till I had more information. By the way, this
story in CBS not long on details about where these
statistics came from, had a glossed over that one part
We'll be back and when we get back, is there

(01:09:43):
a specific point in a man's life, and maybe women
do this too. I'm just going to say, in my
own personal experience, it is men who are more likely
to adopt this habit. When do you go from having
a conversation to just telling stories and calling in a conversation,
it's a legit question.

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Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
A little bit later in the show, you're going to
find out from my daughter the Q and her criminal
justice teacher about how you can support their criminal justice
team and going to compete. Did you know there are
competitions for crime scene investigation. Yeah, it's called the Skills
USA Contest. They're coming up at two thirty to talk
about a fun raffle and oh, by the way, you
could win a day at the Rocky Suite with me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Yeah, it's true. It's true.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
No booze though, should be clear about that. But in
the meantime, a couple of things. Number One, you should
go to the blog at Mandy's blog dot com. Look
for the headline that says right at the top four
one twenty five blog, our futurist pops in and uh
and help some kids get some key kept. Let me
try that again and help some kids compete. I also

(01:11:19):
would love for you guys who are going to spring training.
Not spring training, Mandy, you know what this segment is
not starting? Well, let's just pretend that never happened. No,
you don't have to go back in time. I don't
want to redo everything.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
No, No, it's okay, it's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
This Friday, for opening Day, the home opener for the Rockies,
we're gonna be at the corner of twentieth in Blake,
And by we I mean me and Ross Kaminski. But
we're gonna be there from nine to noon, and then
at noon the afternoon guys take over, and then at
one thirty the Rockies will play their home opener against.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Who are they playing on Friday? Do I remember who
are they playing? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
The Oakland A's. Oh maybe we can win. Definitely didn't
play that day.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
That'd be a well you like I pay attention yeah,
so stop buying Stea, Me and Ross. Between nine and noon,
we are going to be right in front of the
stadium hopefully. The weather, which what just a week ago
looked spectacular for opening day, that looks like it's going
to be a steaming pile of hot garbage.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
So I guess what the high is right now? I'm
going to say forty four.

Speaker 7 (01:12:22):
Forty two said forty two, oh of twenty seven. A
little sneak preview into tomorrow's weather Wednesday. Uh huh, I
did hit up Dave Frasier. Yeah, Dave said rain showers
Friday at sixty percent possibility, with snow showers mixing in
late in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Temps low to mid forties.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Luckily, I just bought a brand new Rocky sweatshirt at
spring training.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
So nice.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
They have hats you can only get at spring training
that are actually really, really really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
I should have brought you one. I'm such an idiot
for not thinking, Oh no, never buy me a hat.
Not even I appreciate thought. No, no, it's about that
it will never fit me.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
No no no, but Tchuck also has a giant knowledge
no no, if it fits his giant nogin my head
is way bigger than you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
So basically we need to go Chuck's size up one. Yeah,
I can buy online, you know how in the hat
store the biggest one L to XL Y. Yeah. Yeah,
I buy xcel to XXL nice only available online. Okay,
no stores, good to know ever carry my size. It sucks.

Speaker 7 (01:13:24):
And I have been dealing with headaches and small hats
for years and I finally give up and I only okay, you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Know what that is?

Speaker 5 (01:13:29):
Kind of like, now you feel fancy buying a hat
on He's got a hat that fits now for his
giant nagging.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
Anyway, I got a lot of stuff on the blog today,
but I want to share with you a tweet set
out by Cheryl Atkinson. I love Cheryl Atkinson. She's a reporter,
she does great work. But this is totally not a
news tweet. It is just a question tweet. But when
I read it, I was like, oh my goodness, she
is correct. The tweet says observation, man reach a certain

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age and decide that instead of having conversations, they are
supposed to tell stories.

Speaker 7 (01:14:08):
Do you agree?

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
If so, what's the age?

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
I say this as someone married to a storyteller. Big time.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
And I but I thought about it, and I realized
this is very accurate. My dad was a storyteller my
whole life. But I technically prefer to have conversations where
I say, how you've been, what's going on? I find
out about other people's lives, we maybe talk about some
issues that are happening. That to me is a conversation.

(01:14:41):
So why why and guys, I need your help with this.
What happens did? It becomes story time because that is
a thing that happened. Somebody just hit the text line, Mandy,
Why did they build Course Field without a retractable dome?
Coursefield is thirty years old, Guys, there was a only
maybe it was there even a retractable dome thirty years

(01:15:03):
ago to emulate when did Seattle build their field? That
was about twenty five years ago. In Vesco is probably
twenty five years old because I went there the first
year in Vesco was open. I went to a game
there in the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Thousand and two that was Invesco, no Seahawk Stadium.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
No, I'm talking about in the baseball baseball because their
baseball stadium as a retractable roof. That was the first
time I had ever seen a retractable roof in action
was when I went.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
To that stadium ninety nine, so they were right.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
After the Rockies, but that was not even really a
thing when the Rockies built Course Field.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Now I believe, and I have this on the blog today, that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
They're looking to move. They're going to move Broncos Stadium.
They're going to move in, and I would think they're
going to put a dome on that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Current site is still kind of an option, Aurora. They
don't they can't build out. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
The problem is that the current site is boxed too,
and they can't create an entertainment district around.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
It's gonna being at the airport, Nandy.

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
The storytelling thing is similar to what happens on the
Progressive Insurance commercial when you become your parents.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
It just happens.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
I know, you can text me, by the way, your
answer is five sixty six nine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Oh, I'd like to know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
I think being a parent is an immediate change. But
I still am not a storyteller. Like I am not
gonna sit. I would much rather have a conversation. And
I don't know if this is a male female thing,
because I don't know a lot of older women who
regale an audience with a story, right, I don't know
a lot of older women who do that. They're much
more likely to have a conversation, which is asking, how

(01:16:36):
are things going, what kind of stuff are you doing
right now? Have you seen any good shows?

Speaker 11 (01:16:40):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
What do you think about the current state of affairs?
I mean those are conversations. Telling stories is not a conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
I mean, guys just kind of like the show off.

Speaker 5 (01:16:49):
Well, my husband calls it talking stories. He doesn't say
I'm having a conversation. He says we were talking stories,
and I know exactly what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
But at some point, if you're the wife of a storyteller,
you have heard the stories, all of them. Yeah, I
got this. One's gonna be six minutes and forty three seconds.
I'm gonna go bathro remal quick. Yeah. I know how
it ends, because I was.

Speaker 7 (01:17:10):
There, and you get back right on time, right at
the end, the good chuckle after the yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
Word has it that they can't make the engineering work
on a retractable snow load presents a problem. But if
there was going to be a massive blizzard, you open
the roof. If that's the problem, open the roof and
deal with the blizzard. We already deal with the blizzards
here anyway, you know, So if that's an engineering issue,
then you can solve that problem by simply saying, if
we're gonna have six inches a foot of snow, which,

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how often does that even happen in the Denver metro realistically?
I mean once every what four years, and it usually
doesn't happen un till later in the winter. Maybe we
get that one Thanksgiving stormy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Indeed, tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
You tell stories for three hours a day, Guys, this
is my job. I do not talk like this when
I am not at work. I'm down right quiet. You
can ask the people who've gone on our trips with us.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not like a recluse.
I don't sit it here, I don't sit alone. No
stop talking. I ge't bear to be around people. But

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I'm not a big I'm not a big talker. Usually
older women just write that is a fair assessment, Texter,
a fair assessment. We'll be right back with more of
your text messages, Mandy most don't wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
That's the wrong thing. I want to read this.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Uh uh bah bah bah I want to find the
one about her dad. My father became a storyteller when
his hearings started failing because he was uncomfortable being in
a back and forth conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
That makes a lot of sense to me. At what
age do we appreciate and accept men becoming storytellers? I
think just if they're elderly, if their grandparents, they're locked
to be okay to be storytellers.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
The issue is, and someone said this down here, men
over sixty at the park have me boring on and
on with stories, and they don't take a breath, so
no one can interrupt, And there's there's the issue. It's
one thing if you're in a group of people and
everybody is swapping stories, right like, someone tells a story
and it reminds somebody else of a story, and then

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everybody's kind of swapping stories. But it's when somebody goes
on a tear, it doesn't take a breath and nobody
else can get a word in.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
It's like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 7 (01:19:18):
It's ok if they're elderly, though, I mean like, I mean,
I don't think they see you like that. They just
want to tell you stories.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
I understand that. I want to hear your stories. I
love hearing people's stories. I really do. Curious about that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:31):
Well, hey, Rod, I've been around people that that don't
even give a window, Like they don't even there's no
where you can jump in with a question. You're like,
how are they continuing to talk this fast and this
long without without visibly taking any kind of breath at all.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
You're saying there's a possibility they're filibustering you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
Yes, Oh, this one says my dad tells stories, which
are great, By the way, more and more now because
he struggles to hear the details in a conversation. I
think there's a lot of allddity to this, and I'm
just gonna say it, men or women, I don't care
if you're male or female. If you cannot hear, there
are itty bitty, teeny tiny hearing aids and you can

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go to Colorado tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
It's in Hearing Center. Doctor Patty will take care of you.

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
Because not being able to hear leads to isolation, which
leads to dementia. And this is not me speculating. This
is scientifically proven fact that those things go in that order.
Hearing loss leads to isolation, leads to dementia, and hearing
aids are not big and bulky, and no one cares
if you're wearing a hearing aid. If I hear one

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more person say, I don't want them to make me
look old. No, your face makes you look old. The
hearing aid is just going to allow you to be
back in the conversation again. So you know, although a
rod I did. I went to the Kelsey Ballerini show
on Sunday night. I wore earplugs the entire time for everything,
and you know what, I could hear every single thing

(01:21:03):
in that concert perfectly fine with earplugs in. And I
had this, you know, the squishy, not the foam ones,
those are the yanky ones. I had, Like the squishy
what is it? It's like Philly putty almost, and you
can form it around your ears so there's no gaps
and I could still hear everything perfectly because Olivia Rodrigo
gave me tonight and it's not bad and I want

(01:21:24):
to keep it that way. Props to the old man
who are conversationalists. But when you're talking, they walk away
because they can't hear you. I think that's a big,
big concern. Mandy men learn to start telling stories when
they're in the military, a fun gathering as men in
their fifties and sixties and different services. That is not
necessarily true because my dad never served in Holy Cow?

(01:21:47):
Could that guy spin a yarn? Why isn't an issue?
Elders have been telling stories since the beginning of time
because sometimes I'd rather have an actual conversation. And I
think that there are people who confuse telling stories with
having a conversation because they are different. A conversation is
a back and forth, an exchange of ideas, you know,

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a discussion of a topic or an event.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Well, that goes to the core issue of listening only
to craft a response, not to actually correct correct really.

Speaker 5 (01:22:19):
When you're already thinking about what you're gonna say next,
instead of listening or not really listening. Mandy, I second
that the AM eight to fifty volume is going up
and down in a very consistent shifts every couple of
minutes or so, very strange. Seems like an equipment problem,
not the weather. I am here to tell you that
this kind of weather that's rolling in right now reaks
havoc on the AM band because of the way it

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goes out.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
And I could bore you with like it bounces.

Speaker 5 (01:22:43):
I mean, but yeah, it's it's almost certainly we'll have
them check the equipment that if it's not the same
way on the FM, then it is definitely just the weather,
which is one of the things about AM that's all
kind of free option a minute, as you know, maybe
iHeart Media could make an app that you can download

(01:23:05):
on your phone.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
I heard recently updated and I've heard it's stream what
is it also free? Did I hear that?

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
Free?

Speaker 7 (01:23:11):
Easily accessible to Mandy kyn show just by setting a
preset and.

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
To this person who said Mandy Kelsey Vallerini sucks anyway,
so it's well worth as much earplugs as you get.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
I love Kelsey Vallerini shut up to a text or
hater from well, you know her as my daughter.

Speaker 5 (01:23:26):
We call her the cue so she has plausible deniability
and joining her now her criminal justice teacher Richard Vaccaro,
to talk about a fundraiser that is going to let
kids go and compete. Guys, welcome to the show.

Speaker 12 (01:23:40):
Than thanks having much.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
Well, I want to start with you, mister Vaccaro. Specifically,
you guys are raising money and we're going to talk
about the raffle on how somebody can win a night
in a suite at the Rockies game with me. But
first I want to talk about Skills USA. Tell me
a little bit about this competition and what the students
get to do.

Speaker 11 (01:24:00):
Well, it's a national organization that encourages competition and criminal
justice related events, including crime scene investigations, police procedures, and
along with criminal justice events, they cover other trades and
occupations from carpentry to all sorts of vocational avenues. So
that is a nutshell what Skills USA is about.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
So what do the kids actually do at these competitions.
I mean, you drag out a dead body and splatter
bread all over the place, and they've got to solve
the crime. What does this actually look like?

Speaker 11 (01:24:31):
Yeah, they have to utilize techniques they have they learned
in class and learn from people in the fields such
as crime scene investigators that we have connections with. So
they have to be proficient in all the skills and
demonstrate that in a pretty highly competitive event. For example,
we're going to the conference in pebol the state conference
next week, and they'll be you know, probably fifty other

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schools that will be competing against from the state.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
So about how many students in your high school legend
high school are going to go compete.

Speaker 11 (01:25:03):
Well, we have a small but mighty group. We have
eight students that are going to compete. There'll be two
sets of crime scene student led teams, and then two
students will be doing police procedures. So we're small, but
it's important to them and they did pretty well last year,
so I'm proud of them.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Now, Q, you are in the Criminal Justice Club? What
exactly do you guys do?

Speaker 12 (01:25:29):
We have been focusing more on like educating people on
what criminal justice is as well as last year we
started a fundraiser for the Colorado Crisis Center to help
raise money for them for their victims. We've finished that

(01:25:50):
up a few months ago. I'm blanking on like what date,
but it was a few months ago, like before the
first semester ended.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Why do you like Criminal Justice Club?

Speaker 12 (01:26:03):
I think that we have like a very valuable idea
that we're trying to like support when it comes to
just all of the topics that we've come up with,
because like the Crisis Center wasn't the first idea we
had for a fundraiser, and there were just a lot
of people that had like a lot of ideas for

(01:26:23):
what we wanted to do, and it's just a group
of people that value being able to help out their
community in such a way. And I just really like
that there's so many of us that can do.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
That, right, so a few of us, honestly, So tell.

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
The listeners what you're raffling off to raise money to
send kids to the Skills USA competition.

Speaker 12 (01:26:43):
We are raffling off ten tickets in Koway's stadium suite
for a baseball game in July. Baseball game July first.
I don't remember whoded against right now.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
No one cares, No one cares, No one cares at
all but I because it is a hosted suite, and
Chuck and I are handling like the food and stuff.
I will be in the suite as well, and every
bit of the money that is sold in the form
of tickets is going to go to support these kids
going to Skills USA.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
So we're not taking anything. We're providing the food.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
I do want to be clear for my listeners, this
is a you have to buy your own booze situation
because this is a school fundraiser. We are not providing alcohol.
So I want to make that very very clear for
the July first game. Now, mister Vacar, how long have
you guys been doing the Skills USA competitions.

Speaker 11 (01:27:42):
Well, I started working at Legend High School three years
ago and created the club after gaining some interest from students.
So they were doing it previously, maybe a few years,
but since I've been on board, I've been doing it
for two years. I had to get my feet wet,
get used to it, and then develop, you know, people
to help train the kids. I'm a retired federal probation

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and prole officer, so I have certain skills and I
bring others in that can teach crime scene policing area
that I have some knowledge of and not full expertise.
So we bring in people who have the full knowledge
of These kids can learn the right way and compete
to their best ability.

Speaker 5 (01:28:20):
So how many kids have gone on and gone into
criminal justice careers are moved in that direction that you're
aware of? I mean, are you are you guys able
to help kids realize this is a field that they would.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Like to enter.

Speaker 11 (01:28:32):
Yeah, that's a big focus of the program. We have
internal in house career fairs each October. I've incorporated where
agents from like federal agencies, local agencies, state agencies come
meet with the kids and share opportunities available to them.
I've had many students go into the Explorer programs with

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Parker PD and Douglas County Sheriff's Office, and I even
have my first success story. I'm a student who went
through the Douglas County Sheriff's Office. They have a program
where you can be a correction officer specialist helping out
the cards in the jail and then get your feet
wet and then get on to be a full fledged
peace officer. So he's working on that. So that's my

(01:29:17):
proudest moment as a teacher. And I see people who
are interested getting into their pathway.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Oh no, I think that's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
And I know that Q has enjoyed the club overall
and has this expressed a desire to work in that
field in the future.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
I want to let people know.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
I put a link today on the blog for the
tickets and they're on a site called Zeffi and it
is a can people.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
If you go to zepi dot.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
Com, ze f f y dot com and search Legend
High School Criminal Justice Club, this will come up or
you can just go to the blog and mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
How much your tickets Q? What do people get?

Speaker 12 (01:29:56):
Each ticket separately is twenty dollars and then for one
hundred dollars you can get six tickets and also a
T shirt. I've been looking at this for twenty minutes
and for some reason, I can't remember if that's right
or no.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
No, there's no t shirt. Don't give away t shirts.
I don't want to have to do that. You can
also add a donation for the Legend High School Criminal
Justice Club as well, if you'd like to support these kids. Yes,
if you'd like to support these kids in their mission
to go to Skills USA. Okay, guys, I appreciate the
time today. Hopefully we sell a lot of tickets and
hopefully not a jerk wins because I got to hang

(01:30:33):
out with them the whole time in the suite. So
let's hope that nice people win. When will we be
choosing the winner on this by the way, we will.

Speaker 12 (01:30:40):
Be choosing the winner on May fifteenth at two thirty.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
Okay, and we will contact you via email if you win.
That's how we're doing that.

Speaker 11 (01:30:50):
All right, And can I just add my appreciation for Q.
She is involved in theater and other things, and she
has put a lot of time into this project to
help her fellow student, So a lot of maturity, a
lot of selflessness. She has been pivotal of that. So
I'm so proud of her because you know, when kids

(01:31:11):
are involved in different things, it gets expensive, and she's
looking out for a fellow student. So that's admirable at
her age for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
Gosh, thanks for that. Thanks for that, Richard Viccaro. That
just made this mom very, very proud. I'm not surprised,
mind you, because she's a pretty awesome kid, but it's
always nice to hear from someone else that your kid
is pretty awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
So thank you so much for that.

Speaker 11 (01:31:32):
Well, thank you very much everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
All right, guys, thank you for being on the show,
and we'll talk to you again soon.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Thank you. Bye bye, there we go, all right. Gosh,
that was really nice.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
As a parent, is there anything better than having another
parent tell you that your kid is great? I mean, man, man,
we are I'm going to reach out to our engineer
about this signal. I don't know what is what has happened,
but a lot of you are texting about that. Mandy
the game July first is against the Astros, correct it is.
I would love it if you guys would buy a ticket.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
That would be fantastic. Appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
And before anyone else asks, I don't do fundraisers for
people that I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Not related to, and that's just you know, this is
why I have a show.

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
I got my first show in two thousand and five
just thinking of the fact that someday I might have
a kid who would have a fundraiser at school. It's
the only reason I do this. Mandy, so cool for
Q to be in the Criminal Justice club. My daughter,
now twenty five, will complete her Masters in Forensics DNA
track at UC Davis.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Amazing stuff, amazing stuff.

Speaker 12 (01:32:42):
So that is that.

Speaker 10 (01:32:44):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
I got a lot of stuff on the blog that
we haven't gotten today. I've gotten to today, but I
want to point out a couple of things. Number One,
you've heard about the measles case in Pueblo. It's an
unvaccinated man. I don't think we all need to panic
just yet, but we have. We have measles touchdown in Colorado.

Speaker 11 (01:33:02):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
Over the last few weeks, I've been talking here and
there about the case of Mahmoud Khalil. He is the
guy at Columbia who had his student visa or is
now he has a resident card because he married an
American woman, and he is now being deported because of
his actions supporting Hamas.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
And you know, I've gone back and forth about this
because I.

Speaker 5 (01:33:28):
Completely agree with the concept that someone who comes to
our country as a guest, and when you're here on
a visa and you're.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Not a citizen, you are a guest.

Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
You are held to a different standard because if someone
says I want a visa to the company's the United States,
and the United States says, well, are you going to
come over here and support the enemy and foment violence
or many of those things, And Everybody's like, oh, no, no, no, no,
I'm not going to do that. Well, this guy has
actively been supporting Hamas, calling for an intifada at Colombia.

(01:34:00):
So he's in Louisiana waiting deportation. But I've been vacillating
a little bit because there's things happening with the Trump
administration that I'm not happy about, and one of them
is this sort of lack or perceived lack of due process. Now,
in some cases, the Chenette Vescara case that is here
in Denver. She has an active deportation order. But what

(01:34:20):
we're not seeing is due process for people who are
here and now are going to be kicked out because
of their political activities.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Now they may show cause.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
The federal government can go in front of a judge
and say, look, here's the information that this guy handed
out that we believe is supporting AMAS, which is a
designated terror organization. But we're skipping over due process. And
that is very concerning to me, because you have to
believe that if you're doing the right thing, the system
will support that. Although we're seeing some of the stuff

(01:34:52):
happening with judges right now is so egregious that I'm
not sure what to even do with it, because we
can't impeach all the judges. But there is pushback happening
right now on Capitol Hill that is perhaps going to
rein in judges that are going beyond their authority to
issue nationwide injunctions when they are not allowed to do that.

(01:35:15):
As a matter of fact, I have a video on
the blog today of Representative John Kennedy, who truly is
he is a treasurer. This man he asked questions He
does not attack, he doesn't grandstand. He asks questions in
such a way that he knows where he's going, he
knows the answer where he's headed. But he asks questions

(01:35:37):
and lets the witnesses just answer those questions. And one
of those questions was I thought the federal judges could
only offer.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
A stay nationwide if it was a class action suit,
which is the law. So that's on the blog today.

Speaker 5 (01:35:52):
But this stuff, I mean, by the way, I'm in
favor of deporting people who are here illegally. I'm in
favor of it unfortunate that there are people here really
lived okay lives and that are probably going to be deported,
But that situation occurred because they came here illegally in

(01:36:12):
the first place. Just because we've decided we like them
after they committed a crime doesn't necessarily mean you just go, well, yeah,
we'll let them get away with it. But the due
process stuff is really kind of bothering me. That is
on the blog today. I put an editorial from the
Free Press that covers a lot of this stuff, and
the headline is, no deportations without due process. The public

(01:36:33):
deserves clarity on these cases, and they do. We need
to know that exactly what people are being accused of
and why they're being removed from the country. I actually
think that's very helpful, because I think a big part
of what's going on right now is message sending by
the Trump administration, and the message sending is We're not
going to let you come to this country and say

(01:36:55):
bad things about it or our allies and support a
terrorist organization. We're not gonna let you do that while
you're here as our guest, and as our guest, you
have to understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
We have the right to kick you out.

Speaker 5 (01:37:11):
I mean, I couldn't imagine going to a foreign country
and participating in a protest of any kind.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
I'm being serious.

Speaker 5 (01:37:21):
That's unless I was moving there and I was going
to have a vested interest in what happens in that country,
and I was going to be there forever and always,
in which case I would be pursuing citizenship.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
I wouldn't weigh in.

Speaker 5 (01:37:32):
It's not my business, it's not my circus, not my monkeys.
And yet in the United States, where we all enjoy
these free speech protections, perhaps people have been given a
false sense of security about being able to go out
and advocate against American interests. Now, if you want to
have an argument about whether or not Israel is in
America's interest, I mean, we can have that conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
I believe it is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:56):
I mean for no other reason than Israel is the
cradle of the main religion in the United States of
America and Christianity.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
So anyway, that's on the blog today.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
Case of a seventy year old woman who went to
jail for twenty days for voter fraud is on the
blog today, and in a sad, sad story, very sad story. Today,
the former head of Voice of America, which was the
voice of democracy and freedom back after World War One
World War two, Voice of America is so badly corrupted

(01:38:30):
that it cannot be saved now. I fully expect the
next Democratic president to start it back up again because
it's kind of become an arm for the Democratic Party,
So why wouldn't they.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
That's the kicker so many of the things that are
going away.

Speaker 5 (01:38:43):
I fully expect Democrats to just roll and write back
out when they take power again, no matter how unpopular
they are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
They don't care. Guess who's walked in the studio right now.

Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
It's Ryan Edwards. Everybody Hello, you know you're almost at
a flannel season.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
Ryan, That's not really a thing for me. Like, you
don't worry about wearing white after Labor Day. You're just
the guy. You're like, I'll wear white after Labor Day.
You can't judge me. If it's comfortable and it's all
I have in my class.

Speaker 5 (01:39:10):
Well, you're gonna need it Friday at the game, I
mean Ross and are going to be there from nine
to no before the snow impossible, the rain and snow start.

Speaker 8 (01:39:19):
Yeah, we we've been pretty lucky over the last several
years on opening Day. We've got some great, great weather days.
But but there are because it's Colorado. Examples the not
too Distant Pass. Yeah, I took us off where, yeah,
where it's snowed on opening Day.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
So this is what I did.

Speaker 10 (01:39:36):
Though.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
When I went to spring training, I was like, oh,
that's a cool sweatshirt. I'll go ahead and buy that.
Then I even said to show I might need it
for Opening Day. Boom, but a big bat of boom.
There you go, nailed it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
And now it's time for the most exciting segment all
the radio of its Guy of the day. All right edwards,
Nobody's Okay, what is our dad joke of the please?
You know I was going to cook alligator for dinner?
Oh no, and I realized I only had a crop pod.

Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
That was a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Okay. What is our word is to day?

Speaker 6 (01:40:14):
Please?

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
It is a verb and it is elucidate.

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
That word elucidate means to explain something clearly, to make
it obvious.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
Elucidate make it clear or easy to understand by to moon.
There you I elucidated that definition, didn't I? Today's trivia question,
who's portrait was featured on the first.

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
One dollar bills printed in the United States? Hint, it
wasn't George Washington. I'm gonna say King George. Oh I
mean because if they were printed before the Revolution? Oh god, no,
never mind. Salmon Pete Chase, Abraham Lincoln's secretary of the Treasury.
Chase designed the one dollar bill and placed his image

(01:40:56):
on it. His portrait was later replaced by Washington's.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
Like what kind of e tell you? And you know
what when he did it, he this is exactly the
statement he made.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
Salmon Peachchase has decided that Salmon Peachase.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
Will be on the one dollar bill now. He referred
to himself in the third person or the Yeah, that's
what happens to put yourself. That's that's bold, right, I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
That is bold.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
Yeah, it's my it's my currency, all right. What is
our Jeopardy category? Fools?

Speaker 7 (01:41:26):
Oh gosh, okay, a two hundred and fifty milliter can
of this top selling energy drink that vitalizes body and
mind retains Ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
What is red Bull that is correct in the category?
Actually is Bebridges April fool?

Speaker 7 (01:41:39):
That bridges is the category at the world of this
beverage in Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
What is Coca Cola? That is correct? Have you ever
been to the world of Coca Cola?

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
Oh, it's I gotta tell you for it for an
entire situation that celebrates soda.

Speaker 9 (01:41:52):
Totally worth your time. It's really good, well co cola.
This Nestle powder started with the what is nest quick?
I'm not going to give it to you. It's not
what it says. What what did you say, Nestlie quick?

Speaker 11 (01:42:12):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Not right? Technically by this answer, can't go ahead and
read it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:17):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:42:18):
This Nestlie powder started with the chocolate flavor, added banana,
pulled banana, and added strawberry.

Speaker 11 (01:42:26):
Quick.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
I'll get points for racing us or do we get
what is it? What is nest quick?

Speaker 7 (01:42:32):
You got to say, so I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna give you a point, So no negative because it
basically is.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
What you said.

Speaker 7 (01:42:40):
Okay, So I know one that sounds That's what I
call its quick so wash it's g organic first Quenchers
come in such flavors as mixed.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Berry and passion for it, Danny, what is gatorade? Correct? Wow?

Speaker 6 (01:42:55):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Two to one?

Speaker 7 (01:42:56):
Sparkling grapefruit and sparkling BlackBerry are among the flavors of
this four letter brand of sparkling juice beverages.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
I've never heard of this four letter brand. I've never
heard of this.

Speaker 6 (01:43:08):
I tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
It starts with a. I that Mandy, what is easy good?
I never would have gotten that without the hint. But
I love Izzy. My kids like Izzy too. It's it's
it tastes like soda.

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
It tastes like soda, but it's got thirty calories or something,
and it's like a low calorie fruit soda.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
They're good, though.

Speaker 11 (01:43:28):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
There you go. What's coming up today on KO Sports all?
So it's fun stuff. We've got you and wrapping at
three thirty.

Speaker 8 (01:43:34):
Looking forward to that, We've got a bunch of rule
changes in the NFL, which we got to get tours.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
But good good, I mean good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:43:40):
Nothing dumb like putting people on second for extra That's
the only new baseball rule I really don't like.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
It feels very like mercy rule or something. It the
torpedo bats.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
I think everybody's gonna have torpedo bats in their hands
in the.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Next six weeks. Could you imagine go to course Field
where oh wait, it's just cork and you're just like
just just sitting them over the wall. Just wait till
the relievers come in. They'll make it easy for you.
It's fine. But hey, at that point, I'm not even
mad at the Rockies relievers. I know it's what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:44:10):
But of course the Yankees hire a freaking physicist from
m I t to make their bats, and then the.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
Rest last night and they were ninteen runs or something
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:44:19):
I wouldn't be surprised if the two things I predicted
the end of this season. Torpedo bats may go the
way the Dodo bird. Oh really, I think they may
go the way that if there are too many home runs,
because then you kill your pitching, You just kill your
pitch the other way.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
I see the pitchers should get their spider tech back well.

Speaker 5 (01:44:35):
And then second, this may be the season that we
start serious talks about salary cap. You know, it's getting ridiculous,
it is, it's so absurd now, and the Dodgers and
the Yankees will have no one to blame it themselves.
All right, I'll let you guys handle that talk now.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
We'll be back tomorrow. Do we have a short show?

Speaker 5 (01:44:52):
Tomorrow's it Thursday? Okay, full show tomorrow, enjoy all three hours.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
I'll see you then