04-15-25 FULL SHOW - JeffCo Schools Called Out, And Wanda James Plots Against TEA

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm your host for the next three whole hours. Yes,
indeedy this entire week. Mandy Connell joined it by my
right hand man, back from his wild weekend in Las Vegas. Everybody,
he's a little bit tired, but he doesn't seem to
still be drunk. Anthony Rodriguez joins us again. We fought
named so sober as a judge and you had a

(00:51):
great weekend in Vegas.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Great weekend, Yeah, at all the clubs. Tell him my
money and craps.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Feeling good.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I got a lot of cash, nice to deposit, but
walking around money right there and some. He's got thirteen
dollars all in ones, he shared it to me earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
More than that.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's all excited.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I play with big money.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I do not.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I would never, never would play with big money because
it takes me too long to earn it. I don't
want to anyway. I know a big money is one
of those totally subjective terms, completely subjective. Big money to
me five dollars on a blackjack table, big money to
a Saudi Arabian chic, fifty grand a hand at the
blackjack table. It's just a matter of perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, the former one, you said, that's that's per bet
for me and crabs five, I try to find three.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, I'm going to play a lot different stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
The only time I've ever played blackjack, and I'm going
to be very frank about my abilities or lack of
abilities in certain areas. My brain does not do numbers well,
and it does not do strategic thinking when it comes
to plotting out what comes next. I'm terrible at chefs
for this reason. I hate playing risks. Just kill me

(01:59):
now before making me play risk ever again. But uh so,
gambling for me is a lot of numbers and it's
not fun really for me, because it's just something my
brain just does not enjoy. It's like my brain looks
at it and goes, oh, no, someone else can handle that, okay, dok.
But the reality is I played blackshack once for five
dollars a hand, and I'm not kidding you when it

(02:20):
was like I just spent five dollars in less than
a minute, in less than a minute, and I have
nothing to show for it, and that was it. I
was like, I and then I see people at these
tables that have a twenty five thousand dollars fifty thousand
dollars hand, you know, buy in, and I'm like, what
where are they getting that kind of money that they
just put it down and blow it in thirteen seconds?

(02:43):
And then that's it. I it blew my mind.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Funny money to burn? I guess.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I guess it's not going to be a thing I do. Ever,
did you go to any good buffets? Do you do
any of that what they used to be?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
No, they're still really good.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
There's good, but there used to be every and they
used to be super affordable. They're not affordable anymore.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
My seven dollars burrito at this buffet was pretty nice,
pretty good. I mean it was really like a special
less of a buffet. But yeah, they are prizy. But
other than that, no, none of the big buffets this time.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Do you know what? How the buffet came to be
sort of synonymous with Vegas back in the day because
they wanted people to eat quickly and get back out
to the gambling floor. So the best way to do
that is to allow them to pick up whatever food
they want, pay for it, and go sit down and eat,
and then they're zoomed back out. They don't have to
wait for anything. So it was all a strategy to
get people back on the gambling floor, and it was

(03:37):
successful obviously. But now Vegas has changed so much like
old Vegas used to be Barbary Coast, where drinks are
always a dollar fifty, right, So we go to Barbary
Coast and get a double for three bucks, and then
we go to the Mirage where you could get a
beer and a hot dog for a dollar fifty for
both at the hot dogs stand in the Mirage. There
was ways to go to Vegas super cheap. I don't

(03:59):
think any of the existing.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
We did.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
We did probably have our best time on Freemont. We
did do a Freemont Did you do?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Did you do?

Speaker 6 (04:06):
The hell?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Why I saw it because we were we were doing
we were doing other things on Freemont, winning a lot
more crabs down there, But most of the trip was
hitting many clubs.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm glad you love Vegas. I don't love Vegas, and
I'm glad you love it. Yeah, it makes me happy
that you can go and enjoy it because it is
just not my jam.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I day clubs for the first ever time.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Got got it as close to you right here as
I am as David Ghetta, oh nice. Yeah, got got
in so early that we I mean people were closed
out only a few hours after doors opening. We got
pretty damn good spot to see David Gutta, who's for decades.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Been one of the most well renowned DJs.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
So we met him in nineteen ninety you had a
time who nineteen ninety nine, maybe it's prime in when
I had to host this electronic music show for our
talk station and Orlando. I know, none of that makes sense,
like I just put a bunch of words together, But
on Friday night, we had a sponsorship with a nightclub.
So they said, Okay, we're going to do an EDM

(05:09):
show on for two hours and we need someone to
host it. And they looked at me and said you
can do it. And I was like, I don't know
anything about electronic dance music. They're like, you'll learn, But
I had everybody cycle through that studio, had no clue
who any of them were. But then years later I'm like, oh, yeah,
I met that guy. All the nicest nerds you'll ever
meet your life, Every DJ I've ever met, even though

(05:29):
he may be packaged in cool fashion, the nerdiest people
you will ever meet in your life.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Decades in and that dude was still having the time
of his life.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, just grin ear to ear and then that night
again as close as I am to you as another
really really good DJ here in the last ten years,
Duro who made eye contact with and then threw a
rose to my wife.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, that guy, it was pretty cool. He's you would
know some of his songs.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah. Once I stopped hosting that show, that ended my
brief relationship with electronic dance music. Yeah, so there you go. Okay,
let's go find the blog. I got a lot of
stuff coming on the show today. I didn't mean to
squander that little stuff, but I wanted to talk about
Vegas room and and I think Vegas is kind of
this interesting microcosm of life, right. I mean, Vegas was
started by the mob, and when the mob ran it,

(06:15):
it was clean it was classy. I mean, if you
rubbed in the wrong way, you'd end up dead in
the desert. But whatever, right, it was fine. Now it's
corporatized and it's more than a little trashy in more
than one place. So it's just a different vibe, but
it certainly has a vibe.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
And the drinks are pricey.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yep, it used to be. I'm telling you buck fifty
drinks at the Barbary Coast.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
What was it the first night? Yeah, first night, round
of four shots eighty bucks, seventy dollars. But then you
go to Fremont a couple of nights later and half
that price. So there's still really good parts you can find.
You can find cheap, cheap options, and there's a lot
of good free stuff to do there.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
So well, I'm glad you had a good time. I
will not take up your space in Las Vegas anytimes.
There's us right by the iHeartMedia offices.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Did you see him?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I did in there? You gave up there, adam, No,
I walked right up.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I took a picture right in front of the there
you go, I know that logo?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
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(07:55):
The story behind the nuggets firings. Denver tries to speed
up permitting. Derek Caraveo wants the eighth congressional seat back.
Greg Lopez is running for governor again. CT scans may
lead to cancer. One boy is given bird vibes. Happy
tax Day. Everybody Harvard decides to go it alone. The
case for tariffs. Navidia is bringing chip making to the US.

(08:19):
Details about the decoupling of China and the US economies.
The story of the largest flood in history. Who is
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Colorado National Speedway wants to curb street racing. Denver cuts

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mental health support for first responders. John Stossel checks in
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Speaker 4 (08:55):
And I love the.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Video at the very bottom, Dad reflexes and it's it's
just Dad's making the last minute grab to save the kids,
and it's just so good, so so so good. Mandy
or a rod rather. I usually pay three or five
dollars craps, but I went to the ten dollars tables
the other day and walked away three hundred and fifty

(09:19):
bucks up only down about one hundred at one time,
but had the sense to walk away with a win.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
The worst thing it really does stink because the craps
table is such a good time. I can never play
at the tables anymore. They're all too pricey. So I
played the cool electric version. There's two different ones, one
where you're like playing solo with your own own little
thing at dice, and then one where it's electric but
it's like in a circle where you're playing with like
five to six other people. But the other the main tables,
like the cool experience that I learned, can't do it anymore.

(09:46):
There's no The cheapest I found table wise was ten
and I'm not doing ten dollar tables now.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
It sucks.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
If somebody else asked, there's not free drinks while gambling. Still,
Oh there is?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, yeah, there is.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I definitely and I definitely enjoyed that on to talk
about when you're not doing craps.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Anyway, yesterday you weren't here for this a rod. Yesterday
I was talking about the case of the man who's
been mistakenly deported by the United States government, And for me,
the appalling part about this story is that it happened
at all, because this man has been convicted of nothing.
I did get something wrong yesterday, and that I said

(10:27):
he had asylum. I thought he had asylum.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
He did not.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
He had an order of deportation from twenty nineteen this
stated he could not be deported back to l Salvador.
But the judge stayed that order of deportation pending investigation.
Now pending investigation obviously never happened, because six years later,
he's still in the United States of America. Now, what
I found super frustrating coming from the right right now
is the justifications that are being given for this absolute

(10:54):
violation of the civil rights of a guy who'd been
living here for six years and had never been convicted
of being a gang member. He has never been accused
in court of being a gang member. A lot of
people on the right are rushing to talk about the
fact he was picked up at a home depot, but
he was wearing Chicago Bulls gear, which everybody knows. Gang

(11:15):
members love Chicago Bulls gear, so do a lot of
Chicago Bulls fans. Now, conservatives are also quick to point
out that a confidential informant said that this guy was
a member of the West New York gang. This man
has never lived in West New York. And what's frustrating

(11:37):
to me is that a lot of people on the
right are still flippantly saying things like, well, everybody knows
it is in a gang, everybody knows he did this,
when in reality, there's no actual proof, there's no crimes
that he's been convicted of. There's no gang affiliation that
he's been convicted of. And if you believe that we

(11:59):
are a nation laws, and I believe that we are
a nation of laws, then we have to follow those laws. Now,
it doesn't mean we should let the legal system be
contorted and abused by people who are trying to use
it to their advantage. Like the Janette Vesgera. She's had
her due process. But this guy didn't have the opportunity

(12:20):
to have due process because he was sent to an L.
Salvador in prison against the orders of a judge that
said he could not be deported to L Salvador. And
to flippantly act like Donald Trump can't demand this guy
back is absurd. We are paying L Salvador six million

(12:40):
dollars a year to house these people that were sending there.
You're telling me that the President of the United States
of America couldn't say to the president of El Salvador, yeah,
I'm not paying you if you don't give us this
guy back. I mean, the entire posturing around this is
insulting to my intelligence. And all amat asking for people

(13:00):
is to be intellectually consistent. You either believe that the
Constitution matters.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Or you don't.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
In one of the ridiculous Colorado Conservatives Facebook pages that
I lurk in, somebody actually posted how Representative Jeff Hurd,
who is one of the sponsors of a bill that
would claw back the authority from the president when it
comes to tariffs. Now, the president isn't supposed to have

(13:27):
the authority to levy tariff's because the Constitution of the
United States, the document that we all like to point
to when we talk about how important the Second Amendment is,
the Constitution gives that authority to Congress. Now, Congress, as
they've done with many, many, many different aspects of their
authority over the years, that they don't want to be
held responsible for when they vote for it. They punted

(13:50):
that right to the president years ago inappropriately in an
unconstitutional way. So now that they're trying to pull it
back and say, look, Congress to approve of this stuff
now all of a sudden, Jeff Hurd is the problem.
What are we doing? How in the world have we

(14:11):
gotten here that people on the right are now arguing
that the rule of law doesn't matter as long as
you feel that that guy was probably super bad, super bad.
I feel it. I mean, my gosh, uh, Mandy, does
he have civil rights if he's here illegally. Yes, Even

(14:32):
people who are here illegally have the right to do process.
They have their right, especially if they've come in as
for asylum. His asylum was denied, a deportation was ordered,
then the deportation order was stayed. That's the last that
this guy had the opportunity to participate in the process.
Right now, if he've been notified, hey, we're gonna go

(14:54):
ahead and move forward with your deportation order. By the way,
the other part about this, this guy checked in once
you year, every single year, as he was supposed to
with immigration authorities. He did what we asked him to do.
It is just absolutely crazy for this person. Biden did
nothing about the flood. Of course Biden didn't. He not

(15:15):
only did nothing about the flood of illegals, he let
them know that the gates were open and they could
walk across the southern border. You're absolutely right. What does
that have to do with what is happening right now?
I don't even know why you would send that right now.
This isn't a what about game?

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
We either believe in the rule of law in the Constitution,
or we believe in the rule in the Constitution when
it's convenient for us. I'm not going to associate with
the second camp there. I'm just not. The Constitution and
due process are supposed to be the baseline exactly, but
nothing else happens, Mandy. So judges are in charge now. No,

(16:00):
judges aren't in charge now, you guys, but the federal
Oh by the way, here's the other part of this
that I want to share with you. So last night
I went and got the Supreme Court decision on this issue.
I just figured i'd go to the Supreme Court and
see what they had to say about this. And this
is from the Supreme Court ruling. So those of you
who say it wasn't a mistake, because that's now Stephen Miller,

(16:22):
who I like less and less and less the more
he talks. I'm not gonna lie. Don't like the guy.
He actually said, No, it wasn't a mistake. It wasn't
a mistake. We sent him on purpose. So basically they've
gone from what they told the Supreme Court was it
was an administrative error. You know how I know that
because it's in the Supreme Court decision It literally says

(16:46):
the United States represents that the removal to L. Salvador
was the result of an administrative error. That's what the
federal government said to the Supreme Court. So either they
lied to the Supreme Court or now they're lying to you.
All I'm asking is that we recognize that as we
move through this process, which has been very chaotic, we

(17:08):
have to make sure that we're not accidentally sending a
guy to the place where another judge said, hey, you
know what, he'll probably get killed if he goes back there.
By the way, we still have no proof this guy's
even alive. And I stand by my theory that the
President of L. Salvador was told by someone in the
Trump administration, look, you got to take the hit on this,
but we're gonna let you look like a big, macho

(17:29):
guy in charge. So the President of L. Salvador comes
up here and is basically like, I don't have to
give that guy back. I'm not giving him back as
a matter of fact, And the Trump administration sits around
and goes, we can't tell him to return in L
Salvador and citizen to the United States. I mean, who
are way to tell him what to do, and the
president of l Salvador gets to go back and beat

(17:49):
his chest and be macho and be like, oh, look
what I did. I stood up to the United States.
I'm not sending this guy back. That's it all smacks
of that to me, and I don't like feeling that way.
But guys, this could happen to you. I know that
sounds so crazy. You're like, Mandy, I was born here,
I'm not illegally. When you just decide that due process

(18:12):
doesn't matter because well, you're okay with the people that
are getting kicked out, it's fine. What about when due
process fails in other parts of our system? The parts
that might matter to you are your family members. This
isn't about hating Trump, This isn't about hating Biden. This
is about looking at the way the justice system is

(18:33):
not operating correctly and pointing it out to the benefit
of everyone in this country. That's how I feel about it.
I think this is incredibly important, and I don't understand
why every American is not furious about this, and the
casual nature is that it's being dismissed with, I really do.

(18:54):
I don't understand why everybody's not as upset as I am.
Maybe they are. I have no idea, certainly not on
the text land, certainly not see and this is what
you get on the text line right now. So Biden
broke the law and now we're supposed to get due
process to all eleven million.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, that's sort of the nature of due process. It
doesn't say due process unless it's inconvenient, or due process
because the other guy screwed up, or due process unless
you feel differently. It's not how any of this works.
And for you to be so casual about saying, well,
they don't deserve due process because of what Joe Biden did,

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I mean, come on, you can't really believe that, by
the way, and why will you get killed if he
isn't a gang member, because the gangs in El Salvador
killed two members of his family. That's why they fled
in the first place, and at that point he was
still a child. Just because you can't wrap your head
around the kind of violence that had taken hold in

(19:52):
El Salvador before this dictatorial president took over, doesn't mean
it didn't happen. I think I'm making people uncomfortable by
calling out their inconsistency and if so good, here's one Mandy,
why the miss Sandry today accusing people of being macho?
Is it okay now to call out women when they
are behaving hysterically? If you've listened to the show when

(20:14):
women behave hysterically, I am the first person to call
them out. But in this case, we're talking about a
Latin American leader, and like it or not, in Latin
and Central America, I don't know much as much about
South America, but culturally macho is a very important part
of their culture. It just is and it's not necessarily

(20:34):
a negative. So when I say bang on his chest
and you know, have like a macho moment, that's very
on brand for a Latin American president or dictator. I
believe he is. He is a dictator. He's just right
now a benevolent dictator. We'll see how long that lasts him.
And Andy, I agree with you about upholding the Constitution.
I'm not sure that if that should apply to non citizens. Though,

(20:54):
if we're going to do the whole due process thing,
then maybe there is no point in doing anything about illegals.
I mean, if it takes up to six years for
one person to get asylum, how long will it take
for eleven million to get due process the year three thousand.
They came in in a rush, and they should be
set back in a rush, or what's the point?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Seriously, the issue with this particular case is that it
has gone well beyond He came across the southern border
and did not have legal status. He claimed asylum, it
was denied, but he was already in the system and
already in the process. Now, would it be perfectly fair
for Donald Trump to say to all of the people

(21:32):
that the Biden administration granted a form of parole and
let them in the country. If he said to all
of those people, we are withholding or we are withdrawing
the parole that you were granted when you came here,
that would be an absolutely different situation because they weren't
already in the process.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Right.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
You could just reject that out of hand and say,
and by the way, we had a story yesterday that
some immigration attorneys are saying that the people that are
here currently illegally are getting messages on what used to
be the cb one app that the Biden administration created
to give some illusion that they were doing anything about
illegal immigration, but they're getting messages to that telling them

(22:12):
to self deport within seven days, So I mean, there's
ways to do. These are two different things, though this
guy was already in the process, so don't conflate these.
And you can still believe that all of the people
that walked across the southern border in the last three
years should be subject to some kind of immediate deportation.
But this guy was well beyond that, well beyond and

(22:36):
following the rules that were given to him to follow.
And that's why this should be very upsetting for all
of you. And the casual way that it's being dismissed
by the Trump administration is not good. I don't know
how people of character work for presidential administrations and have
to say with a straight face the kind of things
that I've seen people that I have respected for a
long time, like Mark Rubio when he said tell them

(23:00):
to give back an American citizen. Well, then how are
we telling a loss to give back an Israeli American
citizen who's being held hostage. Why is this any different? Well,
I guess one's an American citizen. I guess that makes sense, Hi, Mandy.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because one president
didn't follow the law doesn't mean another president shouldn't. If

(23:23):
there's a problem with the law, then change the law,
hold your representatives accountable, or elect someone else. And you
know what, I'm going to leave it on that note
that agrees with me, I am going to say that
more of you disagreed with me than agreed with me.
And I hope you understand you're perfectly fine to be
wrong in this instance. You know that's your choice, but

(23:44):
at some point in the future if your liberties are
being eroded by your team. We're used to having our
liberties eroded by the left. I mean, look at what's
happened to the Second Amendment here in Colorado. We're used
to having that happen on left. So maybe I guess
now we're just supposed to be okay with it all
the right to and hope that it never happens to
me on either side. Just saying anyway, all right, We've

(24:08):
got a lot of stories on the blog today, some
of them are very interesting. This political story is going
to be one to watch play out. When do we
have Greg Lopez see on Thursday? I think he's on Thursday.
Greg Lopez announced yesterday he is running for governor again.
And I don't have a bit of ill will in
my body for Greg Lopez, But why why? And I'm

(24:30):
gonna ask him that on Thursday. He is the only
office that Greg has ever won was mayor of Parker.
He's run for multiple offices, including governor twice and hasn't
even sniffed a victory. And I'm just curious. It is
almost confusing to me when people do that. I don't

(24:51):
get it. I'm so we're gonna find out on Thursday.
But yesterday I was talking about the fact that the
news media is all of a sudden interested in town
hall meetings again.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
They weren't at all interested when Representative Yadira Caraveo wasn't
having any of them, And now all of a sudden,
they just they can't wait for Gabe Evans to have
a town hall. They're so excited about a town hall. Well,
Yadira Caravello is back in the race, and she wants
to retake that eighth Congressional District seat. That seat is

(25:22):
going to be in play for a while, and that
means that we will all have to put up with
a slew of negative advertising about this race now, just
to let you know how things shook out. The first
time that Yadira Caraveo won the seat, it was the
first time the seat existed. She won by about eighteen
hundred votes over Barb Kirkmeyer. There was a libertarian in

(25:47):
that race who didn't campaign at all, had a campaign
song that was full of the F word that pulled
away more than that in votes from Barb Kirkmeyer. And
therefore Yadira Caraveo won. I only tell you that because
she won by about eighteen hundred votes and then Gabe Evans.
That race was insane. It came down to the last

(26:09):
votes being counted kind of thing. But she lost to
Gabe Evans by about twenty five hundred votes. So as
the district is now, the district is slightly more conservative looking,
or at least you know from the inside out, based
on who's won that race and how tight the race
was with Barl Kirkmeyer. But Yaderra Caraveo is now running

(26:29):
for reelection again. And I got an email from someone
this morning that I think is a very fair and
interesting point to make. And this is from a listener
who I will not name because she didn't say I
could use her name or read this, but I'm going
to anyway. Mandy Yadira Caraveo was on Channel two's Colorado
point of View program on March twenty seventh of twenty

(26:51):
twenty five. You need to watch this because she was
talking about her thoughts of suicide last year after the election.
She got help with therapy, is doing better now. I'm
surprised that she's going to run for reelection. I do
hope the best for her. I live in the eighth
Congressional district and we'll be voting for Gabe Evans again.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
I am grateful that Yadiro Caraveo is being open with
her mental health struggles and issues, because I think that's
really important for people to see that you can be
someone really successful and be elected into Congress and yet
still have mental health challenges. And good for her for
talking about it. But when you have someone out there saying, yeah,

(27:34):
after the last election there were thoughts of suicide, it
almost feels like, are we supposed to not vote against
her now because there's like this weird, non implied threat.
And again, I'm glad she's talking about it, but it
puts a very awkward situation out there and hopefully I'll

(27:56):
get a chance to interview her and we can talk about,
you know, why she believes our mental health is in
a better state this year than last year. That might
be a great story of redemption we can share. So
I don't know, it's just it's weird, but I'll tell
you what. There's going to be a pile of money
in that race, a pile. We are going to hear
more conversation about Gabe Evans and you dear a carave

(28:20):
Ao than we ever want to hear because that district
is in play and it's going to be very very
interesting to hear what they have to say about that. Now,
when we get back, it is tax day, and I
will do my one segment on tax Day when we
get back, and in it, I'm going to ask.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
You a question.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
So if you need to check the data and let
me know, I want you to tell me how much
you paid in taxes this year. On April fifteenth, We'll
be right back. Get your data ready. Right after this
the day we all look forward to where we get
to give the government more of our money, or in
some cases you may have overpaid the government and are

(29:01):
getting money back. I like to ask people this very
simple question, and for the longest time, no one would
know how to answer it. I always ask people, what
did you pay in federal income taxes this year? And inevitably,
and you can text me your answer at five sixty
six nine. Oh, that's the common Spirit health text line.

(29:22):
But inevitably I would get these text messages saying, oh,
I got three hundred and twenty five dollars back this year.
Oh I got you know, fifteen hundred dollars back this year,
And they would tell me what their refund was. But
then I would ask them again, how much did you
pay the federal government in income taxes? And you would
be shocked at how many people have no idea how

(29:43):
much of their money the federal government kept. They only
focus on what they got back because they overpaid the government.

Speaker 8 (29:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's like it's like a little savings plan for some people.
And I just it's not that I'm mad at you.
I'm just asking you. Just make s sure you know,
because when you look down, and I don't care if
you make you know, fifty thousand dollars a year or
one hundred grand a year or one hundred and fifty
or whatever whatever your income is when you look down

(30:11):
and you see how much of the money that the
government just took away from you, especially if you don't
feel like you're getting a very good return on your investment,
it's infuriating. This is one of the reasons that I
love the Fair Tax, because the Fair Tax is a
very simple national sales tax, and at the bottom of
every single receipt you would see exactly how much money

(30:33):
you were given the government every single day. I think
a lot of people would feel very differently about DOGE
if they really paid attention to how much money they
are having skimmed off the top by various governmental factions.
I'm not an anti government person, because I do think
in a society as organized at a high level as

(30:55):
ours is, we do need to have some sort of
collectively agreed upon guardrails. However, there is so much waste
and so much just outright nonsense. I just got an
impassioned email from the Colorado Humanity's Association. I can't remember
what the last word is, but the federal government just

(31:18):
announced that they were not going to send money to
the state of Colorado to promote Colorado's specific humanities programs
like taking poetry to people, or having these historical representations
of things and doing things that are actually, I mean,
really cool. But the whole time, I'm looking at the
super cool list of the stuff that I think they're doing,

(31:39):
and I think to myself, why should a taxpayer in
Kentucky work every day and give money to the federal
government for them to turn around and give it to
Colorado to teach people about poetry. That's fundamentally unfair. The
government is overstepped it's bounds in so many areas. But

(32:01):
every time we talk about cutting spending, whatever group is
immediately affected freaks out. But I think if people were
really connected to how much of their money gets skimmed
off by the government on a regular basis, they perhaps
would be better at saying, you know what I mean,
maybe some of these cuts make sense. Maybe some of

(32:21):
this should be shifted to funding sources outside the government,
imagine for an organization. And I'm not picking on this
Colorado Humanities organization because, as I said, they do some
stuff that I think is really cool. But I just
can't justify forcing someone in Montana or California or Georgia
to pay to teach Colorado's poetry. Just like I don't

(32:44):
want my money going to Montana or California or Florida
to teach someone else about poetry. That should be something
that should be paid for by the citizens of the
state in which it is happening. And the easiest way
for the federal government to facilitate that is increase the
amount of money people can get in deductions for charitable donations,

(33:07):
incentivize people to go ahead and support these organizations, but
get them off the government dime. I should be able
to support that stuff voluntarily because I think it's cool
and I think it's worthy of your support. I am
not supportive of the federal government supporting and I just
I think that we've we've lost the mission. We've had
such mission creep that now we're paying for so many

(33:29):
things that we just should not be paying for. Mandy.
I do taxes, and every year I get how came
I owe even when it's a low amount or they
owe a lot, And I asked them, did you look
at your weekly paced ups? Apparently the answer is now,
Mandy over one hundred and twenty one K to the
federal government this year. Go Elono. Mandy, I paid exactly

(33:53):
thirty three percent in taxes. Sorry, Mandy, we paid a
nine thousand on small business income of two hundred and
seventy three thousand. Listen to that. They paid eighty nine
thousand dollars in taxes on income of two hundred and
seventy three thousand. A lot of people would consider that
income level to be rich, but they don't think about

(34:15):
the fact that a third of it just got lopped
off by the government, and that's probably not including maybe
it's including state income tax. They don't clarify, Mandy. I'm
retired and paid just under thirty two K this year.
Last year just under thirty seven k. You guys, are
I want to find this text I got earlier? Hang

(34:35):
on one second. It's an important point, Mandy. Tax day
pretty ironic at this moment in history. To remember that,
prior to the sixteenth Amendment income tax, the federal government
was funded by tariffs and excise taxes worked for a
long time. Yes, it did, last one because I like

(34:57):
this single sole proprietor pay one hundred and forty thousand.
Hate paying taxes. But always remember my dad saying I
wish I made enough money to pay taxes. It would
mean I'm making a good living. That is the way
to put lipstick on a pig. Right there, We'll be
right back. Lindsay dot Co from jeff co Kids First
is on to talk about some crazy things that are

(35:19):
happening in jeff Co schools.

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of the show. Is trying to get something out of
the blog in like a minute and a half and
I failed miserably, but the good news is I can
get it added after you here from COO. She is
a Jefferson County Public school's mom who got her eyes

(36:06):
opened during the COVID nonsense that went on way too
long and since been part of the group and founder
of the group Jefferson or Jeffco Kids First, and you
can follow them on Facebook at Jeffco Kids First. Joining
me now, Lindsay Dadko with an update. Lindsey, let me
take you back to the beginning of all this, when
you were just trying to get mask mandates taken care

(36:28):
of her. You were just trying to inject some reason
into the policies of Jefferson County Public Schools. Could you
even imagine that you would still be doing this so
many years later?

Speaker 9 (36:39):
Absolutely never imagined it. But I think our work now
is just as or more important than our work then.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
It's been shocking to see some of the stuff that
you guys have been uncovering. Tell me a little bit
about the latest thing that you presented to the school board.
At least tried to. They did their very best to
make sure that you guys didn't have enough time to
get it on the record, But I think you managed
to do a good job anyway. What did you just
present to the Jefferson County Public School Board?

Speaker 9 (37:09):
Well, with my team of policy experts and investigative experts
and legal experience, we have put together a documentation showing
twenty six cases of sexual assault, abuse, misconduct, hiring and firing,
and reporting gaps that we presented to the board this

(37:31):
last week. And we want to show a pattern of
past degregious behavior so that we can find solutions.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
What kind of I'm trying to ask the way think
about how to ask this question. Do you believe that
jeff Co has an exorbit an exorbitant number of these cases.
Is there something in the Jeffco Public schools culture that
creates a breeding ground for some of these cases or
is this just what happening across the country and school districts.

Speaker 9 (38:03):
Well, it's clear that this is an issue that many
school districts and parents and advocates are looking into. And
I will say that I believe in Jefferson County Public
Schools the policies allow for predatory behavior to flip through
the cracks. For example, we have the transgender Equal Opportunity
Policy that allowed for all kinds of parental deception for

(38:27):
talking to kids about their sexuality. We have use of
the term trusted adult where it allows employees to self
identify as a child trusted adult and talk about sensitive
topics with them. And so those types of policies really
are a breeding ground and our right fort predators to
come and apply and work here.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
I would say that. And I don't know the school
board president's name off the top of my head, but
I saw some commentary from her, and she is it
is my understanding a cost of volunteer, and I think
the program is an incredible program, and they advocate for
children in the justice system not because they committed a crime,
but because of parental issues, and it's a wonderful organization.

(39:11):
But I'm also aware of the training that you do
in KASA And she has said a few things that
give me the impression that she thinks parents are primarily
the problem. Do you have the same sense from her
or am I reading too much into the things that
she said?

Speaker 9 (39:28):
No, And I think you're talking about a board meeting
following the Chief of schools news coming out about the
child's sexual assault material and it was unfortunate after the
Ralston House came and presented to the board and talked
about the fact that it's an adult in a child's

(39:48):
life who has the greatest likelihood.

Speaker 8 (39:51):
Of being a perpetrator.

Speaker 9 (39:53):
And then she really missed the mark as the board
president by focusing on an incident which involved a child's parent.
And when you are a board president of a school district,
you have got to portray the correct message, especially in
a time of crisis, and she definitely missed the mark
in that regard.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
It came across as if she sort of said we
need to Actually she did say, we need to train
students to recognize this soft abuse. Well, I mean, if
you ask my teenager if me making her clean up
her room when she doesn't want to is soft abuse,
I can guarantee she will raise her hand and say, yes,
I'm being abused because I have to clean my room.
It has created this US against them mentality, though I

(40:34):
feel it. I'm not even a jeff Co parent, and
it's unfortunate because this should be the greatest partnership that
exists for parents is the school district. Right when I
was a kid, we didn't have nearly the issues that
kids today have. But my parents were fully supportive of
the school system, and the school system was fully supportive
of my parents. It was a two way street. And

(40:55):
we've just kind of lost the message on this. When
you guys present about these sexual abuse cases. What was
the response from the board at that time.

Speaker 8 (41:07):
Well, unfortunately, we did have a lot of media cover it.

Speaker 9 (41:11):
We had multiple TV news, The Denver Gazette was their
front page, and after we presented it to the board,
their response to the media was basically a challenge, which
they did not give directly to us.

Speaker 8 (41:25):
They gave it through the media, a challenge.

Speaker 9 (41:27):
To present the documentation evidence. And my response to that is,
you gave us the documentation to your legal department and
open record system, and that was just a huge red
flag again that instead of asking us to partner with
them to express their shock and dismay to come quickly

(41:49):
and present the documentation, they instead give us a challenge.

Speaker 8 (41:53):
To use their own records and prove what we have outlined.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Well, I certainly hope you offered to do that for
a reasonable fee that I'm sure you paid yourself. It
would be easy for you to just say, uh, yeah,
it will cost you X amount of dollars and I
will make you a copy of everything that I've got.
And that shows to me an unseeriousness Lindsay about the problem.
And I think that that flippancy is why national media

(42:18):
picked this up all over the country.

Speaker 9 (42:20):
It was crazy, absolutely, And we are a volunteer organization
and we have no expectation and no ask other than
we'd like to present this to you and really get
a solid solution and protocols in that ensure proper reporting,
that ensure we are avoiding predators in our district and

(42:41):
avoiding passing them around to other districts and other schools.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
So what would you like to see on that last point,
how did you stop that? Is it a matter of
reporting to what agency?

Speaker 8 (42:52):
Yeah, there is in the statue.

Speaker 9 (42:54):
It does require the superintendent or a designy to report
within ten days when they believe there is professional incompetence
or unethical behavior, and certainly grooming would fall under those categories.
And so what we are asking is that there is
a much swister reporting action on their end.

Speaker 8 (43:17):
And that is just one piece of this, but it's
a big piece.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Would that have changed the case of the now young
woman who is living in California with her former teacher
who was helping her manage or navigate her sexuality according
to the principle of Columide High School? Would that have
changed anything in that case? If the mother had said, look,

(43:40):
I found these text messages. What would that have kicked in?
If they had followed procedure or did they follow procedure
as it exists, that.

Speaker 9 (43:48):
Would have changed everything. That could have saved that student.
And the parents who I've worked with for three years
have said repeatedly, if only they had made a mandatory report,
it would.

Speaker 8 (44:00):
Have put an end to it, because instead.

Speaker 9 (44:03):
They kept the parents out of that situation, and a
failure to report failed a family and this student in
the most egregious way.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I want to direct your attention. I know you've seen it.
Libs of TikTok picked it up, a passionate bit of
testimony from a man in Jefferson County who actually lost
custody of his kid because he would not affirm the
gender of his kid. I'm assuming you know that, gentleman.
And now it seems that there is what one counselor
who is facilitating this kind of parental intervention on more

(44:36):
than one occasion. What is that story?

Speaker 9 (44:39):
Yes, and I do know that parent and I always
verify before I take something on and was able to
read the court documents. And when he says that that
case is only about him not affirming his daughter, he
is not kidding. And because I was able to read
the documentation, I saw the name of the counselor and

(45:00):
immediately knew that we had already uncovered information on that
counselor that made a Fox News story lash in twenty
twenty three. And in that story, she taught the open
Records show that she called it detrimental to out a
child to their parents and discussed in depth the parental
deception and we have since changed those policies through our

(45:23):
advocacy work. But again, it changed the culture in jeff
Co and it allows her predatory behavior.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
It absolutely does. So what I think needs to happen
here and correct me if I'm wrong, lindsay, I think
we need new board members because everything gets directed from
the top. We've got to have a new superintendent. But
is it too entrenched in the rank and file teachers.
I don't know why teachers are so obsessed with gay
and TRANSI issues now, I honestly don't. I mean, with

(45:53):
all of the things to be obsessed with, it is
amazing to me that they are so obsessed with these
issues to the point where they are willing to put
it out there as a political, you know, hurdle, and
yet it seems to be getting more entrenched. Do you
feel like jeff CO could turn the corner with different leadership.

Speaker 8 (46:13):
Definitely could turn the corner.

Speaker 9 (46:15):
And what I hear is that three of them are
either not running or potentially not supported by the union.
And that's just a word of mouth, but that definitely
everything comes back to leadership everything, and we definitely are
hopeful to see something happens where somebody stands up and

(46:35):
just takes the leadership role that is needed in Jefferson County.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
And before you guys send me the email, why doesn't
she do it? Jeff Co Kids versus a five oh
one C three organization, which is explicitly forbids them from
being basically playing in the political sandbox. They are an
advocacy organization, so they will stay on the advocacy side.
And I got to tell you, Lindsay, I think it

(47:00):
would be great if you were on the school board,
but I think that what you guys are doing at
jeff Co Kids First is almost more important right now
than just getting on the school board, because it is
We're in an unfortunate period of time right now in
that as we're going through this journalism kind of contraction.
People used to work at a newspaper their sole job

(47:22):
was to cover school board stuff. Right we don't have
that anymore. So it really is kind of up to
citizen journalists like you who have said this is not okay.
I'm going to get to the bottom of it. And
as much as I think you'd be amazing on the
school board. Boy, am I glad you are where you
are right now, but I do hope that there are
other people, maybe even in your organization, who would consider
stepping up and running. And I will be more than

(47:44):
happy to have every single one of them on this show,
because I have seen jeff co change even more dramatically
than Doug Co since I've been here. In the last
thirteen years, it has been a they had a conservative board.
When I moved here, the conservative board got kicked out
by the unions and everything went batpoop crazy from that
point on. I'm not saying the conservative board was perfect,

(48:05):
but holy macarony, we've got to pull some semblance of
reality back to Jefferson County Public Schools and Lindsay you
and your team, thank you so much for doing what
you do and continue to do it and let me
know if there's anything I can amplify for you.

Speaker 8 (48:21):
Thank you, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
All right, Gebreett, that's Lindsay, Dad, call Lindsay. Thanks for
making time for me.

Speaker 9 (48:25):
Today, Absolutely anytime, all.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Right, Thank you, Lindsey. So this is one mom who
found out some stuff she didn't like and now it's
like a movement. I love that, so so so good.
Pay attention if you're in jeff Co. Even if you
don't have kids in the school district. What's happening there
is insane. The stuff that they are putting into schools.

(48:56):
And I say this as someone who I I not
only have no ill will towards gayer trans people, I
truly don't. I want them to have happy, fulfilling lives.
I want them to go about their business and be
able to live the lives that they've always dreamed of living.
I want that for every single human being on this earth,
even those people who hate me, I still want them

(49:17):
to have an amazing life that fulfills them and makes
them happy. All of that being said, we've reached a
point where now schools are so immeshed in gayness then
it's almost absurd. You cannot walk around to high school
and not see a rainbow flag somewhere. It's just like,

(49:37):
what are we even doing? Why in the world should
that matter to high school students? It shouldn't, but here
we are, and it's all in the name of we
want everybody to feel welcome. But the reality is is
we're now telling kids, if you want to feel special
used to be If you want to feel special, you
got to be gay. So then more kids were like,
you know what, I think I'm by, girls, especially, I

(49:58):
think I'm by because being gay was coool. Well now
being gay is like, eh, everybody's gay, who cares? So
now you have to be trans. But there's so much
more with going along with announcement that you're an opposite
gender than just saying, oh, I'm by. Now if you
say you're bye, nobody's gonna call you on it, no one,
no one.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
I'm glad Lindsay's doing it. I feel bad for kids
now because they have all this adult crap piled on
them from a very young age, and we didn't have
to deal with that stuff when we were young. I
was talking to my personal trainer the other day and
I said, you know, we were talking about the Vietnam
War and she said, I don't remember. And she was

(50:40):
in high school in the late seventies and she said,
I don't remember us doing much on the Vietnam War.
I said, well, I was in school in the eighties
and we did not talk about it at all, like
it just didn't exist. In the nineteen eighties, right. I
know Florida didn't have very good schools back then. They

(51:00):
do now, but not back then. But the reason I
brought that up in the first place.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Is that.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
We have to think about this.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
We have let me.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Let me go back and get my thought. Mandy does
que run into this a lot at her school, says
this text message that just popped up. And I want
to respond to this because my daughter has this amazing
group of friends, young women. They're They're just great young
teenagers and I'm very impressed by all of them. But
more than half of her friends are some kind of queer.

(51:35):
They're gay, they're by they're queer whatever that means. Queer
is just I've decided I want to be on the
spectrum of sexuality, but I'm actually straight, so I'm just
gonna say queer because there's no follow up questions. They're
all on some kind of gender whatever. It's bizarre. When
I was in high school, I had two friends that

(51:56):
were gay. One was a lesbian closeted one was a guy.
Everybody knew he was gay, even though when he came
out to me when he's nineteen, he is very dramatic
for him. I was like, Okay, everybody knew that, but
it was not a big deal. I mean, don't get
me wrong. I grew up in the South, and my

(52:17):
gay friend, had he been out and gay, would have
gotten a whole bunch of crap. But he was a
football player, so he kind of flew under the radar
a little bit. But now these kids, in order to
be special, in order to fit in, in order to
have a month, a week, a year, whatever, every freaking
holiday is about being gay. If you want to be celebrated,

(52:39):
you better put yourself on that sexuality spectrum. It's so stupid,
and I don't understand why teachers. I know, I shouldn't
say that, because I think I do. I think initially
they were so worried about the gay kids who were
being abused and beaten up and whatever, that they really
believed they were making the world a better place when
all they've done is confused a lot of street kids

(53:01):
who just want to be part of the party. It's
I don't know, Mandy. I think the displaying the pride
flag at school is similar to displaying the cross. Maybe
maybe my kids have none of these issues. In Nebraska,

(53:22):
Colorado was such a joke. Literally the butthole of America.
So glad I left five years ago, says that Texter Mandy.
I went to high school in the seventies. As far
as the Vietnam War, we sold in war pow brass bracelets.
But did you learn about it, because I did not
learn about it until I kind of went back and
learned about it myself. So we'll see. I don't remember

(53:47):
why I brought up the Vietnam War thing. I'm sitting
here going why did I bring that up in the
context of this Jeff co Kids first story. And I
had a reason. I knew where I was going when
I started, but I don't now, so I'm sorry. No payoff, there,
no payoff at all. Anyway, when we get back, I
have a couple of things. I got a couple of
health stories that I want to get into a little bit.

(54:08):
One of them is kind of interesting, and it really
highlights how little we know about medicine. We all like
to think when I go to my doctor, although the
older I get, the less faith I have in doctors.
And there's a whole bunch of reasons for that. And
it's not just me. You know, reading scary things on
the Internet and going to web md. But you always
want to assume that your doctor knows what he's doing.

(54:29):
You always want to assume that when a doctor says
with authority you should do this, this, and this, that
there's a measure of you know, experience behind that, and
you know they know what they're talking about. But the
reality is a lot of the stuff that we are
currently doing as part of our you know, advised medical
whatevers is going to be found to be complete crockery

(54:51):
in the future, or in the case of CT scans,
could be cancer inducing. You heard me right. It's just
interesting how little we know. When I had my daughter
fifteen years ago, almost fifteen years in a month, it'll
be fifteen years, month and six days, we had a very,

(55:12):
very extremely challenging birth. She almost died. It was very dramatic,
and when all was said and done, and I asked
the doctor, why did that happen? The doctor said, we
have no idea, because there's way more about childbirth that
we don't know than what we do know. And I
was like, well, that's not comforting at all, But I'll

(55:32):
tell you about the CT scan thing when we get back.
You know, how you think you're doing something good for
your health by taking care of yourself, doing preventive things,
looking inside to see what's in there. Well, now new
studies are showing that radiation from CT scans could lead
to thousands of future cancer diagnoses. Now, have you ever

(55:53):
had a CT scan? Arod? I did not know, and
I mean this could be something dumb for me to admit,
but I didn't know. I thought they were different than
next race somehow, I don't know. I thought they were
more like MRIs. But apparently they are a big fat
nose of radiation. You ever had a CT scan that
you know of? No, I've had one. I don't know

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if that's enough to raise my wrist risk. Because approximately
ninety three million are done each year on sixty two
million patients, and now researchers saying, you know what, we
might actually be giving you guys a better chance at
future cancer, a new study says published in the journal

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the JAMA Internal Medicine Magazine JAMA Journal of American Medical Association.
Researchers estimate that over the lifetime of those millions of patients,
about one hundred and three thousand radiation induced cancers are
projected to result from CT exams done in twenty twenty three.
Now I have so many questions about this because I've

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been told, and if you you are a person who
works in this field, please feel free to correct me
on the Common Spirit Health text line by texting five
six six nine zero. But I've been told getting an
X ray is the equivalent of smoking one cigarette in
terms of the cellular damage that you're doing at that moment,
which really is not that much, not at all. So

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I have to wonder, like, what else are these people
doing one little zap of radiation, because you guys, we're
getting it with radiation all day, every day. That's what
the sun does to us. That's why it'd be really
hard to live on Mars, because we're too close to
the Sun and the radiation would essentially kill us. Right,
That's one of the things they're studying when they send
people to space, not like the fake space thing yesterday,

(57:43):
like actual space. We got to do an update on
the reaction to the All woman crew. Let's just say
it's not been kind. I was not the only one
to comment on how ridiculous this thing actually was. This
text said I've had twelve CT scans. This is great

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to hear. Thanks. Here's my thinking about this, though, texture
When you think about the fact that ninety three million
of these things are done every year, ninety three million
on sixty two million patients. So you've got sixty two
million people, and they're talking about one hundred and three
thousand radiation induced cancers. Those are people who were probably

(58:28):
gonna get cancer anyway. I mean, I don't know the
biology behind all of this, but I do believe, and
I've seen it happen now over and over and over again,
there are people who are more genetically predisposed to getting
cancer than not. My family. On both sides of my family,
we don't get cancer. We get autoimmune disorders. That's what

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our cross to bear is. You know, we get high
blood pressure, you know, we get heart disease, we get
that kind of stuff, But we just don't get cancer.
But then I have friends who my age fifty five
have already had a round of cancer because everyone in
their family gets cancer. So Texter, if you are in
the in a family like mine, where people are not

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really predisposed to getting cancer, then I think you're gonna
be okay, because you're gonna be among the sixty one
sixty one million, eight hundred and ninety seven thousand people
that don't get cancer from this Earth is closer to
the Sun than Mars. I'm at Mercury, sorry about that.

(59:32):
Thank you, Texter, and Texter and Texter Mandy. AM radio
and radio in generalist radiation, you'll be harmed if you're
too close to an amr FM tower, it'll radiate you
from the inside out. And that's the darn tutin truth.
And I will take your word for that. So I
think again, Statistically, your chances are very low of being

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one of these people. But if you are in one
of those high cancer families, you know might give you
pause before you rush into getting a CT scan. This
story from CBS says the largest number of cancers was
projected to result from abdomen and pelvis CT in adults,
followed by chess CT scans. The most common cancers overall

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lung cancer, colon cancer, leukemia, and bladder cancer. In female participants. Specifically,
breast cancer was the second most common. Now here's my
other question about this. Did they find other factors that
could increase the risk of cancer, like smoking, like alcohol use, Yes,

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and ded guys. Alcohol use is a marker that can
increase cancer risk, so can obesity. So the editor's note says,
CBS News also offers potential guidance, including the use of
alternative radiation free imaging options, reducing radiation doses for CT scans,

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and educating clinicians about of though avoiding low value testing.
Now this is after a twenty fifteen investigation from Consumer
Reports found up to one third of CT scans performed
could be unnecessary, exposing patients to unneeded radiation. And the
only reason I did this story was because I want

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to give you information. I'm I already realize that I'm
kind of a nightmare for doctors, because when a doctor
says you need to do this, if I've read something contrary,
I'm the first person to say, well, is that the
latest bit of information available. Now, when you ask someone
is that the latest bit of information available, it gives

(01:01:41):
them the opportunity to say I don't know. And at
that point I can say, well, there was a recent
study by Harvard or whatever, something that I've read or
I recently read that CT scans are now being looked
at as a possible form of radiation causing cancer. So
perhaps there's another less radiation type tests that we can

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do instead of a CT scan. I want you to
be able to advocate for your own health, because one
thing I do know about doctors is a vast majority
of them are overworked. A vast majority of them are
seeing as many patients as they possibly can. It doesn't
leave a lot of free time to read all of
the studies that I read, just because I'm in the
news all day, every day. And there's nothing wrong with

(01:02:25):
advocating for yourself with a doctor. Mandy, what is up
with the repeating of the last few seconds on the
iHeart radio stream? What is up with the repeating of
the last few seconds on the iHeart radio stream? I
don't know. I just did that twice. You'd think that
it was funny. Is the irony of a crew of

(01:02:46):
women writing a multi million dollar remote controlled flying pallast
to space and back lost on everybody?

Speaker 9 (01:02:52):
No, it is not.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Now, Can I just say this one thing I talked
about this yesterday. A Rod wasn't here because he was
still in Vegas. I just think the way presenting this
as some kind of historic something, when in reality they
were sort of in the equivalent of a giant carnival
ride where they shot them into the fringes of space
for eleven minutes. But I don't want to take away

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from the fact that these women did sit on top
of a massive explosion in order to get to space, right,
But the framing of it is not being it's not
being very well received. A lot of people having a
lot of fun with the fact that, as this texter

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just said, you got women who didn't fly the aircraft,
who didn't go all the way into space, and yet
they're talking about upending a record held by a female
cosmonaut from the Soviet Union that has been around for
like sixty years, And that just feels, uh, what's the

(01:04:00):
word I'm looking for. That just feels janky, Yeah, janky. Mandy.
A CT scan delivers four hundred times the amount of
radiation of that of a chest X ray. They're damaging
to one's DNA. That's from Glenn Mandy. I have an
annual exam with my GP and Castlewalk tomorrow. I always

(01:04:20):
get an annual chest X ray because I've lived in
houses with high rate on also radiation, because even with
a radon mitigation system it can still be high. You
are right, radiation is everywhere and yes, radio is radiation
or wireless electronics yep, yep, Mandy, everyone that has a
cell phone gets some radiation. Cell phone put out radiation

(01:04:43):
as well. Again, not trying to freak people out, just
trying to make you more aware so you can advocate
properly when you have to go in and your doctor's
trying to figure out what's wrong, and maybe even just asking.
Have you ever asked a doctor said, well, you know,
we can do an MRI, And then I always go
what will that show that X rays won't? Mostly because
I don't like getting an MRI because it's two time

(01:05:03):
consuming and inevitably the doctor's like, well, probably not much.
Then why are we doing it? I don't like to
have my time waste cedent if it's not helpful. Eh,
I'm not doing it anyway. To the texture who said
should have been topless about the women in space, I'm
just gonna leave it on that one to let us

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know how far in America we have not come so
much stuff on the blog right now that we are
at already one forty nine. How did that happen?

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Hey? Good news, Harvard has decided to go it alone?
What am I talking about?

Speaker 9 (01:05:39):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
You know that the Trump administration has been cracking down
on universities who have not done enough to protect their
Jewish students from anti semitism on campus. And I'm all
for that, right. I mean, ultimately, when you get money
from another source, you're kind of in a position to
have to do what they want you to do. That's

(01:06:00):
just the tale as old as time. You know, you
phased the bills, caused the shots, and Harvard was on
track to get to a lot of money research grants
and things of that nature, about two point two six
billion dollars in multi year grants when Harvard decided that
they were going to make a claim of academic integrity

(01:06:24):
and they just said, no, not at all, We're not
doing it. So Harvard wrote this statement, and they actually
have some good points. I do think that there's a
very very big line when it comes to what the
administration can kind of force universities to do reasonably. And

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one of those things should be ensured the safety of
all the students and access to all the facilities of
all the students, which has been blocked by pro Hamas protesters.
But when you were saying, and apparently the Trump administration
all so demanded that Harvard essentially do sort of ideological
tests of their administration, their faculty of the campus kind

(01:07:11):
of you know, put their finger in the wind and
find out where politically everyone lies. Well, I don't necessarily
think that that is the job of the federal government
to police how people think. That's another thing where I'm like, yeah,
we don't really do that in the land of the free. Right,
in the land of the free, you get to be right,

(01:07:31):
but you also get to choose to be wrong. Now,
you can curtail someone's ability to use that to foment
violence and all of those other things. But you know,
just because I wouldn't send my kid to Harvard because
of the ideological bent of that university, Harvard should be
allowed to do that. But they also should be allowed
to lose two point twenty six billion dollars in multi

(01:07:53):
year grants, which is what just happened. I'm not sure
why the federal government is giving money to Harvard when
they're sitting on an dowment of about fifty billion dollars
fifty a billion. Now with the machinations of the stock market,
maybe it's down to forty five billion right now, but
it's still forty five billion. It's larger than a vast

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majority of countries around the world, like their entire GDP.
It's larger than the budget of the state of Colorado.
So why exactly are we giving Harvard. I'm just confused.
What's funny is is that Harvard stands there with their
handout for federal tax dollars. They got very righteously indignant
that the federal government has no right to tell a
private university how they should run their business. But give

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us our money. Anyway, you can be principled and not
get the money, or you could, you know, say maybe
we have work to do, which would have been nice.
Columbia certainly did, but Harvard was like, Nope, not going
to do it. By the way, they just floated a
seven hundred and fifty dollars seven hundred and fifty million
dollar bond Harvard did and sold it to a kind

(01:09:02):
of hedge against this stuff. I think what Harvard is
doing is the same thing that China is doing, and
we're gonna get into Chinese tariffs a little bit on
the other side of this break, because China has been
doing things already behind the scenes to mitigate the damage
of what's going on right now with the tariffs and
everything else, because they're just gonna wait out Donald Trump. Now,

(01:09:23):
we can't wait out China because China is an artificially
manipulated government, and China doesn't have to answer to the
people in the United States. Trump and then the Republican
Party they have to answer to the American people. So
China says, Look, in two years, chances are the Republicans
are going to lose the House, maybe lose the Senate,

(01:09:44):
and then everything that Trump is trying to do is
going to go out the window because they're just going
to throw up roadblock after roadblock after roadblock, which is
probably accurate unless this tariff thing works. But nonetheless, we're
got to take care of that problem. Mandy uhh. This
is a quote by me. Is it lost on people

(01:10:06):
that these women sat on a massive explosion? Nope, nothing
sexual or Freudian about that. Stop it, Stop it right now.
That's not what I meant. And you know it. You
know it when we get back. Here's what we're doing
in the next hour. Jimmy Singenberger's coming up. He Wanda James,
see you, regent. Wanda James. She is one of those

(01:10:28):
people that when we talk about people lying about racism
and it undermining the actual claims of racism. See you
reagent Wanda James. She is the poster child for that.
We're gonna get into that. We're also going to talk
about the largest flood in history.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
A Rod.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Did you know that every single ancient religious tradition, tradition
has a flood story like the Noah story, every single
one of them. It would lead one to believe that
at some point there was a giant flood. And we've
got more on that. I just think it's too We're
interesting and nerdy. And guess who's bringing computer making to
the United States. We'll talk about all that next.

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Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
A couple of things just popped up. One A Rod,
did you see the video of the elephants in the
San Diego Zoo. I'm meant to put it on the
blog today and I forgot about it until I just
saw on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Okay, so you know there's a big earthquake in San
Diego right yes, five point nine intensity, and there's video
of the San Diego Zoo where the elephants are in
the elephant enclosure, and right before or the earthquake, you
see the elephants kind of I mean, if if you
can imagine an elephant going like what like they kind

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of go on alert. Then during the earthquake, they're kind
of looking around like what is happening? What is happening?
And then instinctively they all form a circle where the
big elephants are facing out to protect the smaller elephants
inside the circle. Coolest thing ever, nice, just cool, and

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we got to see it because it happened in a zoo,
which I think is is kind of interesting. I just
I thought that was super super cool. I hate earthquakes,
so that's not cool. The other thing that just popped
up that I want to share with you is that
one if Pete Hegsecks Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth's top advisors,
a guy named Dan Caldwell, was purp walked out of

(01:12:54):
the Pentagon today. I say purp walk, that's not really fair.
He was escorted out of the Pentagon on Tuesday after
being identified in an investigation into internal leaks. Caldwell's been
placed on administrative lead due to what the official described
as an unauthorized disclosure, and the action had not publicly

(01:13:16):
been reported prior to Tuesday. But we know that the
Trump administration is all about stopping the leaks, so that
is uh. He looks like a guy. He's going to
have to be answering some questions pretty pretty soon. To
the texter who said about the all female space flight, Mandy,
I bet they brought it back with an empty tank.

(01:13:37):
I want you to know. I burst out laughing on
the break with that one, because just yesterday I had
this conversation with my husband. I said, yeah, I want
to stop and get gas. He goes, oh, you need
guess like, no, No, I'm now a person who on Sunday,
regardless of how much gas I have in my tank,
I'm like, I'm gonna fill my car up, so don't
have to stop this week. That's who I've become. I

(01:13:59):
don't even know I look in the mirror. I don't
even know who I am anymore. I used to be
a I can make it person. Hey Rod, are you
and I can make it person? Or are you a
fuel up in a responsible ahead of time kind of way?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Within reason. I don't like to get it under like
thirty miles left?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
How do you know if you've done the tank? My
husband knows exactly how many miles he has on his
truck when the light comes on because he let it
run to like running out of gas to find out
the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Oh, I've got the thing that tells me exactly I
mean I have left.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Yeah, it is that accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Yeah, okay, oh yeah, okay, there you go, brand new car.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Yeah, oh that's true. That's true. Yeah, But I just
Sunday I fill up. Then I don't need gas the
rest of the week. Sometimes I have a quarter of
a tank. Sometimes I have a half a tank. I
redly drive my car at all. It's ten years old,
it's got one hundred and eight thousand miles on it.
That's right, Well drive that thing to the wheels fall off. Anyway.
I've got a completely unrelated story to any of that

(01:14:57):
stuff I was just talking about. But I thought it
it was really, really, really cool because I was told
a long time ago. I had this incredibly smart teacher
for a comparative religion in college, doctor Munchaw and doctor
Monchall by far the smartest, most intelligent instructor I ever
had his notes like you would have to copy notes,

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you know, as he was writing on the overhead projector
because this was ancient times, and I had to go
home and look up the words in the notes because
I didn't even know what the words meant. It was
super hard class. But he shared with me that every
ancient religion has a flood story, meaning that any religion
that's been a law around long enough in mankind has

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some story of the gods sending a flood that wiped
out everything unless they were somehow connected to whatever Noah is.
Of course, in the Christian tradition, Noah is. Everybody knows
about Noah in the arc. So when I saw this story,
I thought, Okay, this is what we're talking about. And

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it's a story specifically about how a little over five
million years ago, water from the Atlantic Ocean busted through
the Strait of Gibraltar that we know today. How do
we know it busted through because it came through with
such intensity that it carved out the Strait of Gibraltar

(01:16:23):
because the water was coming through with such force, and
at that time, the entire Mediterranean Sea was dried up
like dry flat salty bed. It was just it was gone.
And here comes this giant flood bust through the Strait
of Gibraltar. And this whole article is about how they
figured out what exactly happened based on how the hills

(01:16:44):
and mountains were worn, and they used that to kind
of figure out the force of the water, which was incredible.
But the whole story is just about climate change, you guys.
I have a video on the blog today John Stossel,
who I absolutely love and I always share his because
they're so good. He's tackling some climate myths. Oh myth.

(01:17:06):
He's tackling some climate myths right now. And I thought
about it the whole time I'm reading this. It is
so stupid for us to think that we know what
the climate is going to do. It is so stupid
to think that somehow, just now that we have instruments
to measure this stuff, we're the reason that the climate
is changing. The climate has been changing since the beginning

(01:17:26):
of the Earth. The climate will probably continue changing until
we're long gone. And whatever is here after as well,
when the robots rise to power and all that. So
it's just foolish to think that somehow this is unprecedented,
just because we have the ability to measure it with
greater accuracy now than we ever did before. Mandy please

(01:17:49):
see Younger Dryas and Graham Hancock. I don't know what
that is. How do you have a twenty sixteen key
at Sorrento with eleven thousand miles? Where do you even drive?
Why don't you just get a bicycle? I mean you
could do that. I'm sorry. I'm listening to something in

(01:18:13):
my headphones. I swear I could hear someone breathing in
my headphones. That's what I'm Why are you hearing it?

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I don't know hearing it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
I'm hearing someone breathing very very very faintly but kind
of weasily, little bit of a wheeze.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Yeah, I hear something.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Yeah, I hear it too. And I don't know if
you guys can hear it on the air. Okay, wait
one more time, will be super quiet?

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Way they can hear it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Let's see, okay, super quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
I don't know what it is. I think it's a
ghost ghost.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I've been checking that for like the last half hour.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
It's the prolusive full of Choe hosts. They've come back
to hunt us in all one hundredth year, and maybe
they'll make this scene to our audience, or maybe they won't.
We'll have to find out. But it is just faint
enough to be distracting because my brain is trying to
figure out what that noise is. Mandy. I found on

(01:19:09):
multiple cars that you can get twenty to forty additional
miles beyond what the car says, exactly exactly, Mandy, this
can't be true. I thought Trump canceled funding for Noah. Haha,
wrong Noah to the person who said, not the Mormons,
That's why I said any ancient religion, Paganism, Hinduism. I

(01:19:29):
didn't check to see if the Buddhists have one, but
they all have a flood story. It's super interesting. What's
old is new again? My friends, What's old is new again?
Let's take a quick time out. When we get back,
I'm gonna tell you a kind of interesting thing that's happening.
As we start to begin the process of restoring some industries.

(01:19:51):
One chip maker has announced some big news for stuff
right here in the United States of America. Even in
Native American cultures, you have people that there's a Choctaw
flood story, in Algonquin flood story, there's a Cree flood story,
an Inuit flood story, a Hope flood story. Everybody's got
a flood story. And it's all about global warming. It's

(01:20:14):
all about climate change, the whole thing, and we're acting
like we can stop it instead of figuring out how
to mitigate it. Right, that's the thing. There's the rub
and those, by the way, are just in America, and
I mean around the world. There are flood stories everywhere.
So it's I just find that kind of stuff super

(01:20:35):
interesting because everybody likes to think that the Bible is
just like a made up book of stories, when in reality,
it is the history of the Jewish people and therefore
the history of the world. Right, So, whether or not
you want to believe the mystic aspects of it, it
is the history of the Jewish people. And they've been
around for a lot longer than the people who keep
telling them to leave their land. Anyway. I want to

(01:20:56):
talk about this because I think it's kind of a
big deal. There's a couple aspects of this that I
want to talk about, one being I am being more
and more inclined to agree with the Trump administration about
one aspect of the tariffs and manufacturing and all of
those things, and that is, we have to ensure that
we have the capability as a nation to be able

(01:21:18):
to create the ammunition we might need if we have
to go to a hot war situation. And right now
we can't do that. We can't build our own warships.
We are reliant on China for a vast majority of
the rare earth minerals that we buy, and they have
just turned off this pigot. They've said, We're just not

(01:21:38):
going to sell you any more rare earth minerals.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
This is an absolute disaster. But it's going to force
the story in that you are either going to have
to allow the mining of rare earth minerals in the
United States of America because we have them, we absolutely
have them, or you're going to have to find another
place to buy them. That is an RGEO political foe, right.

(01:22:02):
So China has decided not to sell us rare earth minerals.
I am increasingly believing that we have to be able
to make technology here on American soil to decouple ourselves
from our geopolitical foe that we rely on far too much.
Remember yesterday we were talking about chat GPT's plan to
take over the world and how easy it was going
to be because it was going to make itself so

(01:22:23):
indispensable to us that we would just hand over the
running of our lives to chat GPT. That's exactly what
China has done since they entered the World Trade Organization,
to a series of violations to all of the trade norms,
they have made themselves indispensable. They have made themselves indispensable
by undercutting the competition and selling things at such a

(01:22:45):
low price artificially propped up by the Chinese government that
everyone else exited the market. And now China is the
only provider. And in the United States, we've got to
fix this. We've got to be able to build this
stuff in the United States.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Computer chip manufacturer and supercomputer manufacturer Navidia is now going
to design and build factories for the first time entirely
in the United States. Together with leading manufacturing partners, the
company has commissioned more than a million square feet of
manufacturing space to build intest Nividia blackwelled Chips in Arizona

(01:23:23):
and AI Supercomputers in Texas. So Nividia is blackwelled Chips
have started production at chip plants in Phoenix, Arizona, and
they are building a supercomputer manufacturing plant in Texas with
fox Con in Houston and Wisdrawn in Dallas. Mass production
at both plants is expected to ramp up in the

(01:23:44):
next twelve to fifteen months. This is really good news,
but I guarantee you that these manufacturing plants will not
be full of thousands and thousands of workers individually soldering
pieces onto a computer board. They're going to be filled
with high level robotics that are making these things. But

(01:24:05):
here's the deal, you guys. China is replacing their workforce
with robotics as well, so their advantage on labor costs
is about to disappear. But what we have to recognize
is our workforce is not properly trained to take care
of high tech robotics. I love that in Douglas County
they have a robotics program. I think that's like the
coolest thing ever. You know, back in the nineteen sixties

(01:24:29):
in the Graduate with Dustin Hoffman and one of his
dad's friends is like, son, the future is plastics. Now
the future is robotics, and we need to retool a
lot of the stuff that we're doing to help young
people that have an interest in that kind of work

(01:24:50):
be able to access that kind of work and access
it quickly. Because we can resure all of this stuff on,
but if we don't have the workforce that is qualified
to do it, it's all going to be offshort again.
And China has been working really hard to educate their workforce,
specifically to be good worker bees in their companies, and
we just aren't. So we'll see what happens here. It

(01:25:13):
does not make any sort of promise about jobs or
any of that stuff, but it does make it easier
for us to feel some kind of confidence that we're
going to be able to build some of this stuff
here is that we're going to need. It's going to
be necessary. And if a hot war breaks out today,
if China drops bombs on the West Coast today, how

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fast can we scale these industries up. We need to
already have them on sound footing, so we can just
make them bigger instead of having to start them again
from scratch. When do we get back? Jimmy Singenberger is
joining us. See your regent, Wanda James is running around
prying racism when there clearly is none. I'll explain with
Jimmy right after this some of the text messages that

(01:25:58):
you just sent about the so I just made about
China and decoupling from China and being able to take
care of our own stuff. This texter said, Mandy, wasn't
there talk about Ukraine selling US rare earth minerals to
offset the US for how much we've spent supporting them
during the war. Yes, this is why this was so
critically important. The interesting thing about rare earth mineral mining

(01:26:23):
is that it's some of the dirtiest mining out there
right now. And by dirty, I don't want to I'm
not going to sit here and pretend to I'm an
expert on mining. I think dirty might be the wrong word.
It's the most disruptive, most invasive kind of mining. I
grew up in an area of Florida that had very

(01:26:43):
rich phosphate stores. We had lots of phosphate because we
have limestone and it all goes together. And so when
I was a kid, I had the opportunity to go
to see how they strip mine for phosphate, and it
is it's ugly. I mean, it's it is not pretty
now in the state of Florida when you strip mine
for phosphate, and strip mining is where they literally just

(01:27:05):
come and take the top of the top layer of
earth off. They just scrape it off, so you're just
left with this giant hole in the ground. And in
Florida they required them to come back and mitigate that afterwards.
So after they got done mining, they would come back
in they push the leftover dirt into place, and then
they would basically plant trees and habitat and they make

(01:27:26):
all kinds of like wonderful wildlife areas and it was
a net benefit. But right now, rear earth mineral mining
is very disruptive and in the United States, everybody's like, ew,
we don't want to do that here because we want
to be environmentally sensitive. But they love to take those
same minerals from China who most assuredly are not following
the best practices when it comes to protecting the environment.

(01:27:48):
Same with oil and gas trilling, we probably do it
as as well as any country in the world, and
yet we want to shut it down here and buy
it from Saudi Arabia, where I can assure you that
don't spend nearly as much time and energy trying to
make sure that we don't pollute the earth, right, I mean, so,
Jimmy Sangenberger is joining me. Now, oh hey, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
God.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
That always startles me when you do that. He's joining
me because today's colin in the Denver Gazette is about
Wanda James. Now, Wanda James is quite the success story.
Hang on one second, let.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Me do that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
Hang on, hang on, I'm in trouble here doing my zoom.
There we go, all kinds of technical difficulties. Wanda James
is a real success story. Back in the day, she
was one of the key people promoting special dispensations for
African American people who wanted to buy a pot store.

(01:28:45):
And lo and behold, she used that dispensation to buy
a pot store. She is an American success story. She's
also a Seayo regent. And that is where things get
sticky and why I invited Jimmy Sangenberger back on the
show to talk about today's call. First of all, Jimmy, congratulations,
you have a film. Say, now, how does it feel?

Speaker 9 (01:29:07):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
Thank you, it feels good. You know, it's an exciting
time and looking forward to what's ahead for me in Victoria.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Well, congratulations. I love it when people get married. So
I'm happy that you guys have decided to take the plunge.
Let's talk about this column today because we had you
on not too long ago to talk about how Regent
Wanda James, who as regent of the Colorado University System
has a duty as regent to advocate four and advocate

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four things that will benefit the CU you know, chain
of universities, and yet she had taken it upon herself
to advocate against a public policy initiative that was being
done by CU and departments of health about high POTENCYC. Now,
the issue at the time was it was racist because

(01:29:58):
there were images of black babies in utero and black
children along with images of white babies in utero and
white children in an effort to explain to people how
high POTENCYCHC, which Wanda James sells at her dispensary, legally
can be damaging to young people and babies in utero.

(01:30:20):
But she said it was racist attack the program, and
then what happened then and where are we now?

Speaker 7 (01:30:29):
Well, so it's fascinating to have a CU regent who
decides to put her interest at least that's what it
seems to me into so many observers ahead of the university,
because of course she's got these business interests in marijuana.
And here you have a state mandated program that the
Colorado School of Public Health, which is predominantly the University

(01:30:52):
of Colorado, but it's also got CSU and UNC, I
think are the two other universities that are involved in this.

Speaker 6 (01:31:00):
And nevertheless they're required by law to do this program.

Speaker 7 (01:31:04):
And so they partner up with a company called the
Niche and Health and create this website t on TGC
dot org and a slew of other materials, videos, all
kinds of things. And here comes Wanda James picking out
one aspect of the program, acting like there are no
illustrations of white children and white babies in utero and

(01:31:26):
that it is only black children.

Speaker 6 (01:31:28):
And that that is inherently racist.

Speaker 7 (01:31:30):
And so over time you had Wanda attempt to get
funding pulled for the program, actually reached out to the
governor's office, spoke with at the very least for sure
the governor's senior advisor when it comes to cannabis.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
And the day after that conversation, the.

Speaker 7 (01:31:50):
Budget director for Polus's office sends a letter the Joint
Budget Committee specifically requesting in part that all of the
funding for this program, which is funded by marijuana tax money,
yet pulled. And meanwhile, Wanda is publicly going out there
calling the program racist, trying to get rid of it,
and so, needless to say, to make a long story short,

(01:32:12):
see you, Regent Chair Kellie Renaisson and Vice Chair Ken Montera,
a Democrat and a Republican, respectively, say hey, we need
to look into this.

Speaker 6 (01:32:22):
They've launched an.

Speaker 7 (01:32:24):
Independent probe to look into whether or not she may
have violated laws or regent policies in proceeding here. And
then that brought us to last Thursday, when there was
a CU Board of Regent's meeting and public comment, and
Wanda even got off the Dais herself to go and
join her friends in calling this racist and lambasting her

(01:32:46):
own university in what was really something that, at least
for a good chunk of the time, turned into the
Wanda Show.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
So let me just say this first of all, you
can disagree with the representation in this t on THHC.
But she has never has she ever successfully launched any
sort of cogent attack against the content of the information
in the programmer. She always kept it on it's racist
because of these racist images.

Speaker 6 (01:33:16):
That's a great question.

Speaker 7 (01:33:18):
So the only criticism that she's had in terms of
the style of content has been these images, which are
just a teeny tiny part of the entire program. She
has criticized some of these science behind it, although that's
something that has largely been on the DL because she's
been emphasizing the racial piece because first of all, she's

(01:33:40):
wrong on the science right, and that would be criticizing
the university's academic freedom in how they've approached the data
with actual scientists, and instead has emphasized this idea that
it is racist. And she has nobody, nobody who testified,
had given any sort of explanation to Andy as how

(01:34:01):
or why these images are supposedly racist.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
So now I thought it was interesting in her column today, Jimmy,
is that you did a deeper dive on African American
representation in medical imagery, like why would this why would
we even think this was a thing. But ultimately it's
my understanding that the t on THHC campaign immediately pulled
the graphics that she found objectionable and that was not

(01:34:28):
enough for her. So doesn't that kind of cut the
legs out from under any discussions about racism.

Speaker 7 (01:34:35):
Yeah, I mean, if they do what you want and
then you keep beating the drum, how do you end
up becoming this victim months later? Remember this happened predominantly
in her first stink and all of that, and when
the images were taken down was in January.

Speaker 6 (01:34:50):
Right, we are now in mid April.

Speaker 7 (01:34:53):
And so I would say one of the things that
was really striking as I looked into this, there's the claim,
oh my god, gosh, these.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
Illustrations are racists.

Speaker 7 (01:35:02):
And yet there is a big push around the country
and indeed around the world from folks in the medical world,
especially people who themselves are black and brown, for more
representation in illustrations in anatomy textbooks. One study found only
five percent of images are of people or illustrations are

(01:35:24):
of people with darker skin, which has implications in terms
of medical professionals and how they might evaluate or learn
about particular skin conditions and other issues, and so really
what CU was doing here with a niche of health
at this and the School of Public Health is following
the recommendations of a growing body of researchers who say

(01:35:47):
we need more black and brown.

Speaker 6 (01:35:50):
Representation in these images.

Speaker 7 (01:35:52):
And it's especially important because the idea of t on
THC is to get young people, in particular women who
are pregnant, but others in the broader community around the
state to understand the issues and relate to the content
better so that it will stick to them. Because when

(01:36:14):
we see representation that seems similar to us, we can
relate to it more.

Speaker 6 (01:36:19):
And that's what this research is showing.

Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
And Wanda James is undermining that because the person who
claims to be all about more black representation, finally here's
an instance where that is happening. But it is to
her detriment, to her business interest detriment.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
That's the part of this that I find the most objectionable.
I get protectionism by Wanda James. She is protecting her moneymaker, right,
which is pot sales. I understand that part of it,
But isn't it convenient that she's black so she can
just scream racism and whether it's rooted in reality or not.
There is nothing. There's not a single thing about showing

(01:36:56):
a black child in utero talking about being harmed by
marijuana of smoke, especially when you have white children represented
in the same way in the same presentation. The notion
that that is racist is patently absurd. I mean, I
just reject it out of hand. And I'm frustrated because
we talk on the show a lot there are actual
instances of racism in our society. There are. It is

(01:37:18):
a reality. There's always going to be people that harbor
hate in their hearts. But the reality is is that
every time some woman like Wanda James comes out and
screams racism over something that is clearly not because she's
using that to get her way, she undermines everybody else
who has a legitimate concern or complaint. And that is infuriating,

(01:37:39):
and it takes wherever we are in society in terms
of race relation and just shoves it back. I don't
even know how many years. That is the part I
find the most egregious here.

Speaker 7 (01:37:49):
I think that's well said and something else worth pointing out.
Actually two things. One the president of anisum Health, the
public corporation, the Public Benefit Corps operation that is Colorado
based that is working with the School of Public Health
on this. His name is James Corbett and he is black.
A filmmaker who testified in public comment last week and

(01:38:11):
produced two of the films for Tea on Thhcing himself
is black. The chair of the Scientific Review Council is
a Spanish speaking Hispanic who used to lead the Colorado
Department of Public Health and Environment when marijuana became legalized
in this state. Brandon Lloyd, former Broncos player, is an
influencer who is helping to promote this message and visiting

(01:38:34):
students at schools and talking to.

Speaker 6 (01:38:36):
Them about hot and heat. Himself is black as well.

Speaker 7 (01:38:39):
But when Wanda James is able to bring out our
good friend Tay Henderson in public comment last week, or
former Denver mayor Wellington Webb, or Leslie Harrod, the former
state representative, or the head of the NAACP for Colorado
and bring them out to public comment and turn this
into a racial spectacle, that is the disingenuous, and it

(01:39:01):
harms the university in a way that it's beyond the
pale in mind. You, I mean, I think that there's
no justification for this, especially when there are so many researchers,
and I lay out a lot of this. There's an
organization of a Nigerian man who has started this group
called Illustrate for Change that's all about having black representation

(01:39:23):
in medical illustrations.

Speaker 6 (01:39:24):
And the list goes on.

Speaker 7 (01:39:26):
And yet because this is wind to James, they're able
to toss all that aside and make a big stink
out of it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:32):
And that's the only reason that they're not actually saying, you.

Speaker 7 (01:39:35):
Know what, this is a good thing is because Wanda
James decided to throw a fit and she's got fred
with so many people in the really frenzy among the
Democrat part.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
I think it's one thing to argue from a libertarian
perspective that marijuana should be legal and adults should be
able to make their own choices, and quite another to
argue that science that is getting clearer and clearer by
the way. I mean, we now have more and more
research into the effect of high POTENCYC. I am not
I am not an absolutionist, like I don't want to

(01:40:08):
say abolitionists. I don't want to abolish I'm a freedom
loving person. But at the same time, I think people
should be informed about the effect or impacts that what
they are consuming on their body. Right, I think it's
important that we have conversations about what alcohol does long
term and how more and more young people are dying
of alcohol addiction. And I think we have to do

(01:40:28):
the same for pot And I realize that when it
is your business, the last thing you want is bad
news about your product. But the reality is is that
you are in the business of vice. You are in
the vice business. You are a merchant of death, as
they say, that's the old phrase for people in the
vice business. So you better be prepared to defend that

(01:40:48):
without trying to shut down conversation you agree with. And
that's what she did. She didn't argue against it, she
didn't say it was wrong, she didn't prevent present different science.
She just said, I don't like what you're saying, and
I'm going to make sure the funding gets pulled. And
for that, I think she should be removed from the
Board of Regents. What could be the end result of
these questions by the Board of Regions about her actions.

Speaker 6 (01:41:13):
Yeah, it's unclear. There's the possibility of a censure.

Speaker 7 (01:41:16):
Now her supporters were acting as though she was on
the verge of being censured.

Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
Already, they're not to that point.

Speaker 7 (01:41:23):
But if this investigation were to come back and say, hey,
there was serious wrongdoing here, then there is a possibility
for a censure. For example, if she broke the one
law that was suggested in a report by a memo
by a university council that suggested she may have violated
a felony statue against attempts to influence a public servant.

(01:41:44):
This one a three felony counts of the four that
Tina Peters, the former Mesa County clerk, was found guilty
of and convicted and put behind bars for, was attempt
to influence a public servant.

Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
That's possible.

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
So if you have some of these statutory violations found,
you do policy violations.

Speaker 6 (01:42:01):
That's what it would be.

Speaker 7 (01:42:02):
For not speaking out what she's trying to make it
be about that she said something and called out racism
and now she's being punalized and penalized through retribution for it.
It would be that so you could have a censure.
You could have a district attorney who would say, hey,
I'm going to look into this. The State Ethics Commission
could act on it. We'll see, but She's definitely made

(01:42:24):
this a lot bigger of an issue than it otherwise
could have been.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Well, she's fighting for her financial life, right, I mean
she's when people are fighting for their financial life, they'll
they'll do whatever they need to do. A Texter just
said this quite appropriately. If they didn't have pictures of
black people, she would be complaining about the lack of
black representations. There you go, read the column today and
the Denver Gazette. Jimmy Seinerberger writes twice a week for
the Denver Gazette and does a great job. And he

(01:42:50):
fills in for me and Ross and all of us
over here at KOA. So you'll be hearing him, I'm
sure soon, as I've got a couple of vacations coming up.
Now it's time for the most exciting segment on the
radio of its kind in the world, Jimmy of the Day.
I forgot to tell Jimmy what his role there was

(01:43:12):
when you were supposed to yell in the world, But
I figured a rod handled it no problem. Now, are
you yes?

Speaker 6 (01:43:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
Are you familiar with of the Day? Jimmy Sangenberger. Are
you ready?

Speaker 6 (01:43:22):
We have done this before? I am ready?

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
Well, because you are on a zoom call. You have
a delay. I will wait until the end of the
jeopardy question, whereas you don't have to. So that is
your advantage. What is our dad joke of the day? Please, Anthony?

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
The Egyptians claim there are no crocodiles in their country.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
They're in they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
Oh gosh, okay, yeah, ye.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
Yeah, what's the of the day? Please?

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
It is an adjective pugnacious.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
Oh, that means pugnacious. You're you're a fighter, you're kind
of stocky, kind of is it a is it a
visual word?

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
Do you show a readiness or desire to fight or argue?
There you go, ugnacious, pugnacious?

Speaker 5 (01:44:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
When did here's our trivia question. When did Pinterest, the
online visual bookmarking platform, launch, and I still don't understand
it to two thousand two seven, I'm going to say
two thousand and two. Let's see here, probably early twenty
ten mode and the app followed in twenty eleven. They

(01:44:29):
really took off in twenty twelve. All right, Jimmy, I
will be waiting until the end of the question. You
do not have to wait until the end of the question.
And I'd strongly recommend you get your answer and as
soon as possible by saying Jimmy and then answering in
the form of a question, what is our category today?

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Police? Your area? Okay, police your area? Or letter word
for the area.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
A cop regularly covers mandy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
What's it be?

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
That is correct?

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
The Scotland Yard Squad name for this meaning in a
moral habit has been boringly renamed Serious Crime Directorate nine habits.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
I don't know, Jimmy, Jimmy, no.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Meaning in a moral habit. The word is vice.

Speaker 6 (01:45:22):
Okay, yeah, I got it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:25):
More and more small cities have these door busting teams.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Uh yeah, go Is that the end of it?

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
Uh? It says Paducah, Kentucky uses its team about twice
a year.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
Kentucky is correct.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
This police force was established during the first term of
Canada's first Prime Minister, John A.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
McDonald. I'll give you the I'll give you the acronym.
You have to give me the name, the r c MP.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Manny, what is the Royal Canadian Announted Police.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
It's not the nickname it says. That's not what it says.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
The Canadian Mounties, the mountains.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
I'm not gonna give you the point. You want to
take an out, but you're not gonna get points kidding me. Yeah, No,
we're gonna we're gonna meet down the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
No point.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Wait, what was the actual question?

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Says the mountains?

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
What was the actual question?

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Yeah, named the police force, but you didn't say the mountains.

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
Canadian Mounted Police.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
I gave you, I said, give you the acronym.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
Anyone that says the l a p D strongly embraces
this kind of policing that emphasizes working with the citizenry.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Mandy, what is community police? That is correct? And Jimmy,
it's too hard Jimmy's delay. I was gonna say it's
too hard. I'm not going to take any joy in
this victory. Jimmy, it's kind of like beating up your
you know, best friend's little brother on this one. So
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:46:45):
There's something about game shows where it's never my strongest suit.

Speaker 6 (01:46:49):
But then you added the delay, and I, well, I'm
gonna give you.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna give you an out that Jimmy Segenberger, Jimmy,
good to see you. My friend will see you soon.

Speaker 6 (01:46:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
All right, we're gonna make room we got. Look, Dave
Logan's already here. He's like champing at the bit right
now to get started on KOA Sports, because there's so
much stuff to talk about so far. Be it from
me to get in the way of that. I'll be
back tomorrow for another three hour show. Keep it right
here on Koa