05-19-25 FULL SHOW - The Medicaid Grift, And Biden Has Cancer And Memory Issues - The Mandy Connell Podcast

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Today on the blog, States are abusing Medicaid. My heart
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Long live the Poop series. A court fore Yes, Biden

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probably had cancer for years, and now a dog and
a baby nate for the first time. Those are the
headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. And if
you get frustrated today during the show because I have
some Craikray stuff that we're going to talk about today,
I just want you to go to the blog and
scroll all the way down to the bottom and look
at this this video of a baby and a German

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shepherd dog meeting for the first time. I love dogs
so much. I love them so so much. Happy fourth
birthday to Poppy yees dog. What did you guys do
for The big celebrations.

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This week are the Pobbender of course from Good Time?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Wait, what's the Popbender?

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah? Popbender? Good Times.

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It is like a whipped cream, ice cream kind of mixture.
I'm not sure what it really is, peanut butter on it,
and then they have dog treats in it.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Shut up, I'm pre made, ready to go.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I know this was this was a things at good times,
at good time.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well, you get delicious burgers.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yes, huh. We went to drive through just for that.
I had not read her in the backseat time.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
My dog is six. She's never had one of those
fresh cut as well. Yes, she did look like dapper
in her photos on the internet, yes, but.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Uh stop aging. What the hell?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Hey, I've got a really big dog with a life
expectancy of eight to twelve years and she's about to
be seven. A yeah, no, yeah, no, it's true. Big, big,
big going ons last Friday, Big big, big, First of all,
Axios got a hold of some of that audio from

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the her, the Robert Hurr questioning of Joe Biden, and
if you have not heard it yet, holy macaroni. It
is devastating for the Democrats. It's devastating for the Democrats
because they are now going to be forced to answer
for how they now let me just talk for a

(04:56):
second about the Democratic Party overall. They have put us
through in the last few years. Okay, the Democratic Party
and everyone associated with it, including the mainstream media, because
they are you know, hand in hand. Let's be real.
They have told us that when we pointed out that
Joe Biden looked like he didn't quite know what was

(05:18):
going on, like say, for instance, at the G seven summit,
when he just wandered off out of the picture. Hey,
you guys are great, and Georgia Maloney from Italy had
to go rein him back in and people on the
right were like, uh, I don't I don't think that
guy's okay. Something's clearly wrong. He's elderly, he's having seen

(05:41):
your moments. And we were told by the Democratic Party
and all of the apparatus that they have working for them,
You guys are just you're awful. You're following for the
cheap fakes. Your ageist. It is out of it is unbelievable.
He's sharp as attack. We were told over and over
and over and over again by a series of liars

(06:03):
who were carrying the water for the Democratic Party. Now
what I would like to have happen in this respect,
I would like to have every single one of those
people have to go on television somewhere, and someone asked them,
were you lying when you said Biden was sharp as attack?
Were you lying? And if not, what did you see

(06:23):
in him that everybody else in the world could not see.
That's thing number one that the Democratic Party has done
to the people of the United States of America. And then,
instead knowing that the guy was addled, knowing that he
was dealing with significant memory issues, knowing that there was
no freaking way he was going to make it another

(06:45):
four years as president, instead of having an open primary
where the voters could decide if they wanted a different candidate,
the Democratic Party announced one day that Joe Biden's stepping down,
and then like two days later, Oh, look, the party
is all congealed around Kamala Harris. Look everyone's come together

(07:06):
around Kamala Harris. There was no voting on that, she
received zero votes, and yet she was shoved down everybody's
throats as the candidate of joy. And don't get me wrong,
it all worked out the way it was supposed to, right,
But the reality is is that the same Democratic Party

(07:27):
that hid all of this stuff, the same Democratic Party
that robbed and disenfranchised every voter in the Democratic Party
by lying about the condition and fitness of Joe Biden.
Is now going to come out after this devastating audio.
Everyone in the media is running away from this. Everyone
in the media is standing around going, damn. Those Democrats

(07:50):
really fooled us, didn't they Dang those Democrats. They knew
what they were doing, those Democrats, and the Democrats are like, wait,
what you guys are supposed to be on our side.
But now the media is there circling the wagons around
themselves because until Jake Tapper says, yeah, I lied to you.

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I completely believed what the White House told me because
I wanted to believe it, and I displayed zero intellectual curiosity,
zero journalistic curiosity. I don't care about all the books
they are writing. I don't care about any of it.
They have been lying to us NonStop, and now Friday,
this devastating audio comes out that clearly shows and you

(08:37):
know what, if you haven't heard it yet, er, let
me get my computer. I'm not going to play. This
is four minutes and twenty five seconds long, Okay, but
trust me on this. It doesn't get any better from
the place where it starts. So I'm just gonna play
a little bit of this so you can hear the
man that Democrats told us was sharp as attack, as
good as he's ever been. He is so dialed in

(08:59):
it's amazing. I've never seen anyone more in control of
the presidency than Joseph Biden. Listen to this audio road
he's asking, wait, let me tell you. He's asking, because
he's already hear the prosecutor. He's asking, when you were
at Chambers Road, where did you keep the documents that

(09:20):
you took because you were working on a book. Okay,
that's the question. It's important to remember that is the
question the.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Head or the bibo for your book. Where did you
keep the papers that really had those things that you
were actually.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
Working Well, I don't know. This is what twenty seventeen,
eighteen down, Harrett. Remember in this time, my son is

(10:05):
either that deployed or is dying. And and so if
it was, and by the way, there are still a
lot of people at the time when I got out.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Of the Senate and or.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Encouraging me to ron in this period.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Now, I just want to remind you he just said,
this is twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen, And he says,
when I got out of the Senate. He had already
been vice president at this point. I'm not even gonna
play any more of it. I've gotten invented on the blog,
so you can go listen to all of it. It
is an absolute train wreck, absolute train wreck. And whenever

(10:53):
Biden doesn't want to answer a difficult question, he brings
up his dead son. His dead son is essentially a
pro that he uses to get out of answering difficult questions.
So of course we know my son was deployed or
he was dying one of those things. He wasn't either.
I mean, it is, this is an absolute disaster. So

(11:13):
this comes out on Friday, and all of a sudden,
the same day we are told that completely by surprise,
no one saw this coming. Joe Biden has been diagnosed
with extremely aggressive prostate cancer. Now, to be clear, I

(11:35):
wish the former president a successful health journey in beating this. However,
the prostate cancer is very late stage. It is already
metastasized to the bone. I mean, I'm gonna be perfectly frank,
I'm not trying to be mean, but battling a late

(11:57):
stage cancer, it helps if you are already in peak
physical condition. And I don't think anyone can argue that
Joe Biden is in peak physical condition condition. I don't
think anybody well, I mean Democrats would before you know,
the debate, but nobody now can argue that he is
in peak physical condition. It's just not reality. It's completely

(12:19):
detached from reality. But that being said, now, doctors, including
today on Morning Joe Are are not doctors openly questioning
doctor Zeke Emmanuel on MSNBC with Joe Scarborough. By the way,
Joe Scarborough was one of those who said Joe Biden
is as sharp as he's ever been right before he

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questioned burned out the debate. Listen to this exchange.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
You believe it is likely, if this protestate cancer has
spread to the bond, that he could.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Have had it for up to a decade.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
But certainly it's likely.

Speaker 8 (12:56):
Would it be fair to say it's likely to have
had this for at least several years, oh.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
More than several years. You don't get.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
Prostigutes again, I just I just want to stop you.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
So your this is this is not speculation.

Speaker 8 (13:14):
If you have prostate cancer that has spread to the bone,
then he's most certainly you were saying had it when
he was president of the United States.

Speaker 9 (13:24):
Oh yeah, he did not develop it in the last
one hundred two hundred days. He had it while he
was president. He probably had it at the start of
his presidency in twenty twenty one. Yes, that I don't
think there's any disagreement about that.

Speaker 8 (13:42):
And and and I'm just curious again, if you're if
you're doctor to president of the United States, that is
a male, that is an older man, would prostate tests.
And again we were is talking about a PSA screening,
a blood test that you could do along with all

(14:05):
the other blood tests. And so it's not even that
it would be intrusive. Would this not be one of
the first tests that you would conduct as a White
House doctor?

Speaker 9 (14:17):
If you're a White House doctor in this situation, I
think you would certainly discuss it with the president and
talk about the pros and cons. I think if you
then ask, well, if President Biden says, well, if I'm
your father, which patients often do you know, what would
you recommend?

Speaker 5 (14:37):
I think the fact is that.

Speaker 9 (14:38):
Most White House doctors would recommend getting the tests. And
again the evidence is look at President Obama, President Bush,
younger than President Biden, and they both got the test.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
That is on MSNBC. You guys, this isn't some right
wing flamer on Fox News. This is a dude on MSNBC.
And you know the best part of this clip, and
it's at the very bottom of the blog today if
you want to go check it out for yourself, is
the shock on the faces of the panel at MSNBC.
They're like, what are you saying that the White House

(15:17):
lied about Joe Biden having prostate cancer?

Speaker 10 (15:21):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (15:21):
No, say it isn't so. I mean, come on, you guys,
how in the world. First of all, I believe he
had cancer while he was in the White House one
hundred percent. I believe there is a zero percent chance
that they did not take a PSA test every single
year because he's a man in his eighties. And by

(15:42):
the way, the PSA test is just part of a
panel that they do. Oh we're gonna do find out
about your if they checked his cholesterol, they checked his
PSA because it's all part of the same thing. You
reach a certain age, when was the last time, guys,
that you went to the doctor to have a full physical.
First of all, guys, I know you guys don't go
to the doctor's often as you had to have a
full physical. But prostate cancer is highly treatable. It is

(16:06):
a very very very survivable cancer. Okay, very survivable. So
when was the last time you went if you're over
fifty and your doctor said, Ah, we're not going to
worry about to prostate. Noah, We're good. I mean, that's
just that's If that didn't happen, then I would say

(16:27):
that's bordering on medical malpractice. But I believe it did.
And I believe that his physician who said he is
fit to serve, not that he's healthy, he's fit to serve.
Think about that for a second. I think his doctor,
uh probably was told not to say anything. It will

(16:47):
be super ironic that, in an effort to further conceal
everything that was wrong with Joe Biden, they actually delayed
treatment that could have saved his life. That would be
super ironic. And you know what, you know, why blame
and part here? No, I blame mostly I blame doctor
Jill Biden, not a medical doctor, even tho Whoopie Goldberg

(17:08):
tried to make her one. Because let me tell you something,
my husband comes home and says, no, my PSA is
a little high. You know, the first thing I'm doing, Well,
what are you doing? Let's what are we following up on?
What do we need to do here? Because I unlike
doctor Jill, I love my husband. I want him to
be around for a really long time, so I can

(17:29):
only speculate what happened, But I agree with his doctor
one hundred percent, zero percent chance that Joe Biden did
not have this in the White House. Another thing they
lied about. Along with lying about Joe Biden not being
involved in his son's business affairs, not knowing anything about
his business affairs, we know that was a lie. I mean, uh,

(17:50):
what's going to be really interesting is that I do
believe James Comer is going to start calling people to
testify in front of Congress about who was running the country,
because we now know Joe Biden clearly not capable of
running the country after four PM, and yet thousands of
people were pardoned with the autopen. You know, I'm not

(18:13):
upset about the use of an autopen. I'm really not,
as long as the person whose signature it is is
kagent and aware that it's being done. And I don't
believe that was the case. In the last part of
the Biden administration.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
I just don't.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
I think that the Biden administration has been lying about
way too much stuff to get any kind of credibility,
And I think answers deserve to be gotten. And I
said this. I was texting back and forth with Nick
Ferguson this morning about this, and I said, if I
were a Republican candidate for office and I was running

(18:50):
against a Democratic incumbent in Congress at every opportunity, the
first question I would ask them is it's clear that
your party lied about the health and fitness of the president.
At what point did you know they lied? That's my question.
At what point did you know they were lying? Because everybody, oh,

(19:10):
I didn't know. I didn't. Oh, so you had no content.
How effective are you if you have no contact with
the president and you don't even ask how the president
is doing. I think this is manna from heaven for Republicans,
and I think it's manna from heaven for the Republican Party,
because as dysfunctional as the Republican Party can be, we

(19:33):
have never pulled a scam of this magnitude ever. So Yeah,
I think this is going to be the gift that
keeps on giving and again, I want to be clear,
I do not wish, ill I hope that President Biden
is able to fight this management whatever. I just don't.
I don't have a lot of confidence because he's not

(19:54):
in great physical health. A cancer battle is brutal.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
It's hard.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
It wears you down, even more so if you're the
prayerful sort, say a little prayer for speedy healing for
Joe Biden. I know, I am. It's the decent thing
to do. We'll be right back five six, six, nine.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
I want to share some of these because I think
some of them are really good, Mandy. I've been seeing
all over social media conservatives wishing Biden the best of
luck and wishing him a successful recovery. Could you even
imagine for a second if the roles were reversed and
it was a conservative president going through this. I feel
like the liberals would be cheering in the streets and
putting on parades hoping for the president's death. But they

(20:32):
are the party of peace and love, after all, Right,
we don't have to imagine. We can just go back
to right after President Trump's assassination attempt, where he literally
almost died and the left was like oh, I just
missed by that much, and they were ready to dance
on his grave. I do want to play a quick
SoundBite here. This is from back in the day. This

(20:57):
is NBC News talking about why the Department of Justice
will not release the audio of President Biden's interview with
Robert Hurr to Congress.

Speaker 11 (21:05):
Join me now for more's NBC News Justice and Intelligence
correspondent Ken Delanean.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Ken, thanks for being here.

Speaker 11 (21:11):
Of course, it's that laundry list of cases are there,
But we'll start with Jacksonith's brief to the Supreme Court, which.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Is due today.

Speaker 11 (21:17):
Are we expecting anything new out of it?

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I got to find the right part. I'll do that
in just a second. Brief in Scotis. Let's see, we're
going here in I'll find it on the break. I'll
get it to the right place. It's worth listening to.
They decided, you know what, there wasn't a need. Congress
didn't need it. Congress didn't need to hear this. The
American people didn't need to hear that. The president was

(21:41):
completely addled. So now we can add the Department of
Justice to the cover up, to the Biden cover up.
The cover up just keeps growing and growing and growing
and sucking in more people. Now, I'd love to think
that somebody's going to be held accountable, but I've been
in this game for far too long. I know that

(22:02):
no one's going to be held accountable, Mandy. The Dems
are whining about unelected bureaucrats who was running the country
in Joe's name? Again, I believe that Kentucky's James Comer,
the head of the Oversight Committee, will be calling people
to testify in front of Congress. We shall see, Mandy.

(22:22):
If Biden had prostate cancer in office, why would they
not treat it? It wouldn't have taken him out of
action for more than a few days. Your guess is
as good as mine. I don't know. But here's the thing, guys.
Remember our Secretary of Defense was just out of touch
for a couple of weeks, just didn't come into the
office because he was having prostate surgery, and no one

(22:46):
rather to tell us or the people that he was
supposed to be in charge of.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
I'm nearing seventy. My doctors had me undergo an annual
PSA test for at least ten years. It's automatic. I
don't request it It's something they do with all of
us old eyes. This texture says, just so you know,
if you're very old, male and you have prostate cancer,
a lot of times they don't do anything about it.

(23:12):
It depends on what kind of prostate cancer you have.
And Louise, and I'm so certain about this, even though
I'm not male, is because we've had several friends that
have just gone through this right, close friends that have
had this issue. So when I this is how I operate.
What a friend says to me, this is what problem
I'm having. The first thing I do is educate myself
as much as I can so I can support them

(23:32):
in their in their health journey, whether it's a prostate
issue or female issue, whatever. I just try to that
way I can be helpful. And you know, anyway, Mandy,
my husband's doctor didn't test his PSA for years and
then he found out he has prostate cancer two years ago.
Have to push hard for that test. Most people, most

(23:53):
doctors do it. This text. I'm surprised that doctor Jill
didn't catch it. That's funny. That was very funny, Texter,
very funny, Mandy. The White House loves parsing words, so
that technically they aren't lying. My latest favorite, Jensaki said
she never saw the deterioration of Joe Biden while she

(24:13):
was there, and she was in the Oval every day.
My question was Joe there at the same time. I
don't know, Texter. It's a good question. By the way,
does anybody start to wonder if maybe the reason that
Karine Jean Pierre was so bad at her job was
she was getting her marching orders directly from Joe Biden
and so confusing, so confusing. Something doesn't compute, says this text.

(24:40):
If President Biden's prostate cancer was detected, well he was
either VP or potus. Is the public to believe that
the diagnosis was ignored in order to conceal it? President
Biden is just going to skip out on cancer treatment
while in office and risk death not buying it. You
can believe whatever you want to believe. Texture But after

(25:02):
everything else that this administration, the Biden administration lied to
the American people about about everything else, I'm giving them
absolutely no grace on this one. I don't believe he
did not have cancer in the White House. I cannot
explain why he chose not to do anything about it.
Maybe it was thought that his cancer was the sort

(25:23):
that you just manage and then it wasn't going to
grow really quickly. I have no idea, no clue this,
Texter said, Mandy. Prostate cancer is treatable, not curable. If
he's had a PSA and a positive screening in the past,
he would have been in treatment since diagnosis. My father
lived for seventeen years with prostate cancer before it got
out of control and took to his bones. Then he

(25:44):
died within one year. Just FYI, And that's kind of
the point, Texter. It's already in his bones, So you're
telling me it was a misdiagnosis. So who are the
medical people that are going to fall on their sort
about that. Who are the medical people going to say, oh, yeah, sorry,
sorry about that. We didn't know, we should have gotten it,

(26:07):
We should have gotten it. Okay. Now I want to
go back to the MSNBC cut and bring in the
part where they start talking about the DJ not releasing
the her tapes that are now out, and.

Speaker 11 (26:22):
The DOJ is saying that it will not release the
audio of his interview with Robert Hurst.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
So what more do we know about that decision?

Speaker 12 (26:29):
Yeah, the DJ and a letter to the committee today
said that the Committee hadn't demonstrated the need for the
audio recording of the interview, given that the transcript has
already been made public. The DJ said it was concerned
that quote, the Committee's interests may not be in receiving
information in service of legitimate oversight or investigatory functions, but
to serve political purposes that should have no role in

(26:50):
the treatment of law enforcement filed. I should point out,
though you meiched, that news organizations, including NBC News, are
seeking access to that audio because we believe it's a
public record and we think the Justice are it doesn't
have a right to withhold it.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
We believe that audio could.

Speaker 12 (27:02):
Add context to the transcript and to the question of
whether Special Council Rob her accurately characterized President Biden's memory
lapses and mental capacity during that interview.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Amish to be clear, they wanted access to then hold
Robert Her accountable for what they had already decided at
this point. Let's remember, they couldn't believe that Robert Hurr
came out and said he was an old man with
a bad memory. They couldn't believe that was beyond the pale.

(27:34):
No way no way. I mean, you guys, the cover
up was strong and it's all just coming unspooled right now.
Maybe just curious. If HIPPA does not apply to the president,
do they have to disclose the health issues to the public.
Just curious. No, they do not, even if you are elected.

(27:56):
Even if you were an elected office, you still have
a right to medical private See. Is it ethical to
keep such things from the electorate. I don't think it is.
I understand why people do it, especially if he had
been diagnosed with prostay cancer a really long time ago,
as this texture just pointed out, you can live for
a really long time with prostay cancer. What if he
was diagnosed two decades ago. There's video of him giving

(28:22):
a speech in Delaware about pollution, and at one point
in the speech I didn't put it on a blog today,
but I did watch it this morning. At one point
of the speech, he said, and that's why people like
me have cancer, and a lot of people were like
he admitted it. He might have admitted it at that
point he had already had some skin cancer issues removed,
so he could have been talking about that. I don't know,

(28:43):
but he could have been talking about prostay cancer. I
think it's a question that we the voters deserve to
have answered. I don't know if we ever will. I
just don't. And isn't it? Isn't it so convenient? Did
it just happened to be released on the same day

(29:04):
that the audio from the her tapes is being released?
Isn't what? What an astounding coincidence? That is I went
to the Rocky Mountain Men's Clinic and they did a
PSA test first thing, And they do do that when
you do hormone replacement because anything hormonally, they got to
make sure your prostate is okay. But I will just
say this, Anthony, is the text of the year so far.

(29:28):
Are you ready talking about Joe Biden covering up so
much stuff? And now I believe he's covered up having
prostate cancer. This text says, I'm surprised the mainstream news
didn't find it knowing where their head was. Okay, that's funny.
That is funny.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Can I give you the SoundBite of the year?

Speaker 12 (29:47):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yes, ms Dragon who left this for me? Excellent Lee.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
He told me this is Joe Biden in the twenty
twenty campaign.

Speaker 12 (29:56):
I guarantee you I will be totally transparent in terms
of my health, all aspects of my health.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Hmmm. Wow. I mean, I guess it depends on what
transparent means.

Speaker 12 (30:10):
You know.

Speaker 13 (30:11):
I'm just.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Curious, just curious, Manda. I'm away from the radio, so
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. Just
think if Bliden had run and been reelected and then
this prostate issue was revealed, Imagine how quickly he would
have either resigned or been forced out, and then we
would have had Kamala as president. And you know what,

(30:35):
more and more stuff is coming out on the left
about how much Democrats did not want Kamala Harris to
be president. They just didn't want her to be president
at all, which makes this whole thing even worse. Can
we just have a moment. I don't want to spend
a ton of time on this, but I've got this
on the blog today. Did you hear about the breakout

(30:56):
in New Orleans? So a bunch of inmates in a
New Orleans Sheriff's department in jail broke out using the
tried and true Shawshank redemption method of breaking through a wall.
But that's not what I want to talk about, Aron.
Did you watch the video of this of the sheriff

(31:18):
of New Orleans. It's on the blood tip.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Wasn't it, like super short?

Speaker 4 (31:23):
She is the least intimidating sheriff in the history of sheriffing.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I mean, it's just ten more of us, Gabe, since
watching that.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Video, it's like your nana. It became became sheriff. How
is that? I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't
want to sheriff that is going to walk around busting heads.
I don't you know. I don't want to like the walking,
tall type sheriff. I want a good shriff, but I
want a sheriff that inspires like a tiny modicum of
fear in criminals, like just you know, I want to
be like I don't want to tell you with that guy.

(31:54):
This woman, no, I mean, listen, listen, listen. She doesn't
even sounds scary around. She's got a kind of a
helmet hair thing going on.

Speaker 14 (32:05):
Find out until eight point thirty this morning, the public
was until sometime after ten o'clock this morning.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yeah, yeah, these criminals are running around the world.

Speaker 14 (32:15):
Line to number one, we capture those individuals, but also
to learn partner agencies as well as the public to
be all the look at for these.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Well, that's why I'm here.

Speaker 15 (32:25):
So I only learned about it as well, and I
spoke with the sheriff and she was gonna be doing
her media response was we wanted to give her that
opportunity to do so, and I understand that she has,
but we were not going to wait.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
So when we learned about it, we knew.

Speaker 15 (32:43):
The immediacy to at least inform the public, even if
we didn't have pictures ready and all the names.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
She doesn't sound scary, She doesn't look scary. Am I
weird in wanting a shriff? It seems a little bit intimidating.
I mean a little bit. I just said, Mandy seventy
three years old, radiation eighteen months ago. I knew they
were radiating my prostate for a month, but I always
called it radiation. Brain afterwards, foggy memory, slower reaction time.

(33:13):
Makes me wonder if, on top of being old, Biden
was receiving treatment during his administration, And you know what,
I would be fine with that, But we should have
been told, just like we should have been told when
Lloyd Austin took a couple of weeks off to get
his prostate surgery done. I'm not mad at people for
taking care of their health, but when you have an
incredibly important job with incredibly important responsibilities, and all of

(33:35):
those words should be capitalized by the way, that's how
important it is, you've got to kind of loop people
in when you were having a situation that is not working.
Are we having dead air right now?

Speaker 8 (33:45):
A rod?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Nope, Okay, he just checked anyway, beer for t Pusser.
Exactly right, exactly right, Ross said, he just texted in.
I would still bet a dollar that they didn't cover
it up, but I wouldn't bet more than that because
I think it's only fifty five percent likely. Ojez and
I had a listener text in today saying he had

(34:08):
PSA test at least once a year for a decade
and they were all absolutely fine, And they had one
test with a slightly elevated number, but it was still
borderline five, which is not necessarily a concerning number for
older men. So they did a little more testing and
found advanced aggressive prostate cancer, which appears to be what
Biden has. So even among KOA listeners, there's somebody with
a story that matches what Biden's story seems to be

(34:29):
so far, it's not the most common presentation of prostate cancer,
but it does happen. And if they were believable in
any other way, I might lean into that. But they've
lied far too much. The boy has cried Wolfe one
too many times, and now they're crying prostate cancer and
everybody's walking away.

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Speaker 4 (35:13):
Welcome all for Welcome to the second hour of the show.
And there's a lot of talk about Medicaid cuts and
people are saying if Medicaid is cut, people are going
to die. And I thought I would bring somebody on
who has been really kind of doing a deep dive
for many years on Medicaid spending and recently on the
tremendous growth of Medicaid spending under the last few years

(35:35):
of the Biden administration and joining me now from the
Paragon Health Institute. He is the president. Brian Blaze joins
me today. Brian, good to see you again, Great to
be with you. So can we start at the beginning
for just a moment. Let let's go back to the ACA,
the Affordable Care Act Obamacare as most people know it.

(35:56):
What happened there that has created the growth of Medicaid
that we're sort of trying to reel in now.

Speaker 10 (36:04):
Yes, so, Medicaid is a joint federal state program and
it used to be for vulnerable populations, children, pregnant moms,
people with disabilities, that had low income. Obamacare's aim was
to dramatically expand the number of people that had health insurance.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Coverage, and it mainly did.

Speaker 10 (36:24):
That by expanding Medicaid to able bodied, working age, childless adults.
And one of the keys with Obamacare is that it
created much more generous terms for states. So basically, the
federal government pays all of state spending on disable bodied,
working age expansion population. So the federal government has created

(36:47):
a discriminatory structure where states get much more money seven
times more money from the federal government for a dollar
of spending on able bodied, working age adults than spending
on traditional enrollees like children and people with disabilities.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Wait, I did not know what you just said, because
I'm very well versed in the fact that different states
get different levels of Medicaid reimbursement. Some states it's as
high as ninety percent, other states it's sixty percent. Somewhere
in that window, right, But you're telling me that we've
actually incentivized by offering more money from the federal government,

(37:26):
more services for able bodied single adults than we are
offering to single mothers or children or the very poor elderly.
So there's more incentive to take care of those people
first because you're going to get more money out of it.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, it's very moral. It's a perverse funding structure.

Speaker 10 (37:46):
When Obamacare was created, the federal government paid all of
the costs. Now they pay ninety percent of the costs
for the able buy and working age population. Another way
to think about that is, if states spend a dollar
of their own money on able body, working age medicaid rollies,
the federal government sends the state nine dollars on average

(38:11):
for traditional medicaid and rollies. When states spend a dollar,
Washington will contribute a dollar thirty three. So nine dollars
is seven times a dollar thirty three. So states have
huge incentives to direct more medicaid resources to the able bodied,

(38:31):
childless population because the federal government is sending much greater
resources to the state.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
The problem with that, from where I see it, is
that there are especially if you need a specialist. If
you're on Medicare, it can be very Medicare Medicaid, if
you're on Medicaid, it can be extremely challenging in some
areas to even find a specialist that accepts Medicaid in
some fields. So now the incentive would be to see
those able bodied single adults rather than seeing someone else

(39:03):
that you're not getting as higher reimbursement for. Correct.

Speaker 10 (39:07):
Yeah, So just to be clear, the federal government cuts
the checks to the state, so the state gets that
money coming in, but those incentives will flow through the
health sector, like you mentioned, So if states are getting
much more money for the able body population, their incentive
is to increase spending on that population.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
And one way they can do.

Speaker 10 (39:30):
That is by setting rates higher for services that expansion
and rollies are likely to receive the rates the traditional
Medicaid enrollies would likely to receive. So you're going to
see a resource allocation away from the vulnerable to the
able body.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
You've been writing a lot lately, Brian, You've got a
lot of columns at Paragon Health Institute. It's Paragon Institute
dot org. I've got links to a lot of them
on the blog today. And you use the word money
laundering or the words I guess I should say money laundering.
I mean, that's that's pretty strong language. So where do
you where are you seeing this money laundering and explain

(40:10):
why it fits in that definition.

Speaker 10 (40:13):
Well, unfortunately, what I just described is bad, but it's
actually far worse in practice because the states don't actually
have to come up with real spending in order to
get money from the federal government. The claassic example is
this thing called a Medicaid provider tax, and it's not
a tax, it's a kickback scheme. The provider, let's say
a hospital system, will lobby the government to assess this

(40:36):
tax on them.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
So let's take some easy numbers.

Speaker 10 (40:39):
The state assesses a million dollar tax on the hospital.
They take that million dollars and they spend it in
a Medicaid payment right back on the hospital. That's just
the million dollars changing hands.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
But the state.

Speaker 10 (40:52):
Will bill the federal government for that expenditure, and the
federal government will kick in and amount to the state.
On average that amounts about seven hundred thousand dollars. So
the state then takes that and directs a lot of
that money to the healthcare sector, although the state can
use these funds for any purpose. And we wrote a

(41:13):
piece on what California did with one of these scams
where they got approval for a massive for a scam
that led to a massive inflow of federal funds, and
then the next year they expanded Medicaid to unauthorized immigrants
in the state.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
We've done that in Colorado as well. We are now
offering illegal immigrants, women, pregnant women, and children. They are
now on Medicaid, which in my mind prevents them from
being able to get citizenship because one of the questions
that you have to answer is have you ever been
on the government doll They ask it nicer than that,
but that's what it is. So it sounds like in
Colorado we also have the hospital provider fee and things

(41:50):
of that nature, fees that serve no purpose, right and
we're told we have to have these in order to
protect rural hospitals or whatever. But now I'm thinking, are
they just another way to pad the well? Because all
taxes are allowed to be considered healthcare expenses, right, So.

Speaker 10 (42:07):
It's a way for the state and the provider to
collude and get as much federal Medicaid money as possible.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
So it is it's.

Speaker 10 (42:17):
An unfortunate so economic actors respond to incentives, and the
incentives that we've set up in medicaid are for the
states to develop these financing schemes so that they can
pass higher costs for the program to the federal taxpayer.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
So all states do this.

Speaker 10 (42:35):
So we're trapped in this really inefficient equilibrium where all
states have directed and used these financing schemes, paying off
politically powerful providers in the state, and really destroying conservative
governance at the state level. So states, if states are
one of the things that we need conservatives to do

(42:57):
is figure out priorities and balance budgets. So if we
allow states to get out of that by when they
have budget difficulty, just creating a Medicaid money laundering scan
so that they can get all this Medicaid money coming
into the state that the state can use for any
purposes so they don't need to actually seriously look at

(43:18):
whether the state budget needs trimming. It destroys government at
conservative government to state level, and it significantly increases federal
deficits and depth.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
So let's talk about how big Medicaid got under Joe Biden.
And part of this is attached to COVID, and you know,
COVID being the disastrous outlier that it is. Maybe you
could understand that Medicaid was expanded or whatever, but what
are the real numbers look like? Because now we're hearing
lots of people freaking out about the possibility of cutting Medicaid.

(43:50):
But what happened in those last few years of the
Biden administration and what does a real.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
Cut look like? Now?

Speaker 4 (43:55):
That would be take us back to where we were,
I guess, is what I'm asking.

Speaker 10 (44:01):
The two main things happened to the Biden administration and
federal Medicaid is spending explode in the Biden administration.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
One is a legacy of COVID.

Speaker 10 (44:09):
They allowed ineligible people to stay on the program much
longer than they should have.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Like people, you.

Speaker 10 (44:16):
Know, may have lost their jobs at the start of
the pandemic and lost their workplace insurance, but most people
weren't out of work that long and they got back
to work, and most people get health insurance through their employer.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Well, the federal government.

Speaker 10 (44:30):
We just kept paying Medicaid coverage for those individuals even
though they had left the Medicaid roles, So that was
one big problem. The second big problem is that the
Biden administration really exacerbated these Medicaid money laundering schemes, and
we've seen an explosion in them over the last two years.

(44:52):
So when we're talking about the word cuts, it's very misleading.
There would be no annual cuts. Spend on Medicaid would
increase year after year. It's really just slowing the growth
rate of the program. And we're looking like the reforms
that I'm advocating for would slower the growth rate from
about five percentage five percent increase of the year to

(45:16):
about three percent increase of.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
A year, which is far more manageable in the grand
scheme of things. What kind of reforms would you like
to see? Is block grants one of them.

Speaker 10 (45:25):
I think block grants is the best reform, so that
would be sort of the conservative gold standard of reforms.
We at Paragon have tried to focus on what we
think are politically feasible reforms.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
So what we want to do is two main things.
We want to reduce the.

Speaker 10 (45:40):
Discrimination that favors the able bodied over the most vulnerable.
We would phase down the Obamacare expansion rate until state's
got the same reimbursement rate for able bodied, working ate
adults than for everybody else on the program. And then
we would significantly limit states ability to money launder, their
ability to engage in these financing schemes, and we would

(46:04):
limit their ability to pay off providers with really excessive payments.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Can you explain the block grants to my audience? You
may not be familiar with what the block grants do.

Speaker 10 (46:14):
Yeah, so right now, the problem with the program is
that when states spend more, Washington kicks in more spending,
so that encourages spending more. What a block rent would
do is it would cap the amount that states get
from the federal government, so they'd have a list of

(46:34):
individuals that they need to provide coverage to their be rules,
and the federal government provide a contribution Above that, the
state could do what they want, but the federal government
wouldn't be on the hook for any of the expenditure.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
So as an economist, we would say, on.

Speaker 10 (46:49):
The margin, states have incentives to care about the value
because every additional dollar the state would bear the full cost.
Versus today where space dates bear a small fraction of
the Medicaid spending, and which is the main reason why
we have so much wasteful, inefficient spending.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
In the program. I'm a huge fan of block grants.
I think they're the only way to force sort of
you know, economic responsibility onto the states. But how would
you and you guys have probably thought about this, and
I'm not smart enough to figure this out, what kind
of formula would you use to determine that block grant
spending on a per state basis? Because you have states.

(47:30):
I lived in Kentucky for three years. When I lived there,
it was even before the ACA, they still weren't a
ninety percent reimbursement rate for their Medicaid spending because they're
a poor state. You know, maybe California doesn't need that much,
or New York doesn't need that or whatever. How do
you come up with that formula to decide, Okay, state
of Colorado, we're going to give you twenty billion dollars

(47:52):
for Medicaid and not a penny more? How do you
figure that out?

Speaker 10 (47:57):
Asking great questions, So to you and your audience for
getting such smart questions here, I would say the.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Current way that they do it is.

Speaker 10 (48:07):
They base it off of state per capita income, so
states get more medicaid spending from the federal government if
they have lower per capital income.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
But that's been.

Speaker 10 (48:16):
Abused because richer states have been able to develop more
propagate spending, so richer states actually get far more federal
spending per person in poverty than poorer states. What I
would do is base it off of the number of
people in poverty in a state, So I'd say US citizens,
So the number of US citizens and poverty. I think
you would then have a federal allocation based on the

(48:39):
number of individuals and poverty, and you probably make adjustments
for cost of living states that are higher cost of living,
you know, you send somewhat more funds there. But I
think that is a much more rational structure, where you're
targeting the funds to something like the number of people
in poverty rather than a the state's ability to manipulate it.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Wouldn't make wouldn't block grants just simplify everything so much?
I mean, wouldn't it just strip away layers and layers
and layers of federal to state bureaucracy. We hand them
a check and say good luck. You know, this is
your amount of money. Why is this not politically happening
right now? We've got Republicans trying to you know, force

(49:24):
work requirements, which I'm one hundred percent in favor of.
But this, to me, the big bite at the apple
is that block grant thing. Why can't we get this done?
Or states just lobbing too hard against it.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
It's a really good question.

Speaker 10 (49:39):
I mean, it is the left sort of us things
as as protecting the entitlement nature of these programs and
if you are distributing funding to states. I think they
actually make a lot of claims about block grants, which
I think are fairly easy to refute. They'll say that,
you know, if what happens, if there's a recession and

(50:00):
then states are on the hook for this additional spending, well,
there's ways to address those policies. I would say. It's
also one of the unfortunate things about policy is that
we get stuck in sort of the inertia of existing
policy frameworks and sort of building off of the inefficiencies
in those frameworks. I mean, like I said, I'm a

(50:22):
big advocate of block brands. I think it's the best
reform for medicaid. I think in order to implement them
in the program, you'd have to have bigger Republican majorities
than we have right now.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Oh that's disappointing, because ultimately, nobody wants poor elderly people
to not be able to get care. Nobody wants someone
living with a significant disability to not be able to
get care. But at the same time, we can't just
have sort of this blank check given to every state,
especially now. I mean, and if you read Brian's work,
and I linked to four different things on the blog

(50:54):
today that he has written about this, it will make
you insane, because if a private company did anything that
the states are doing, they would go to jail. I mean,
this is blatant grift. So why can't we somehow get
all the politicians in and say, okay, grift is not okay,
we have to disincentivize this stuff. It makes perfect sense
to me, and I'm frustrated that we can't protect this

(51:17):
program for the people who really need it while making
sure the people that are abusing it, either at the
state level or by you know, using medicaid when they're
perfectly capable of working. We've got to just fix this issue.
What do you think is the biggest What do you
think has the biggest potential to reform Medicaid in this
very close congress. Where would you like to see Are

(51:40):
there ways to nibble around the edges that can have
any significant impact?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (51:47):
So, I mean I think you addressed what are the
primary problems with the status quo. The fact that we're
paying seven times the federal government pay seven times more
for able buying working age adults on the program than
traditional enroll is crazy. That should be I mean, there
should be no discrimination in favor of the able bodied.

(52:07):
So addressing that would be a huge win or sort
of common sense good government reform. And then reducing state's
ability to engage in these money laundering schemes, like there's
ways to limit what states can raise to put up
as the states share. I think that combination would be

(52:29):
some significant reforms. They're doing other things that I think
are buying policy. I mean, you mentioned work requirements. I
think ensuring the enable bodied, working age people are working
or engaged in community service in order to access a
welfare benefit makes a lot of sense to me.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Well, Brian, I really appreciate both your work on this
at the Paragon Institute, and you know You've got to
believe at some point that enough people will start to say,
we've got to take care of people, but we don't
want to be stolen from But it's DC So I
just don't know. This text asked a question, Brian, do

(53:08):
we have any idea how many able bodied people are
on Medicaid? Do we know what those numbers are?

Speaker 10 (53:16):
I mean, the Obamacare expansion enrollies is about twenty million.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Oh, so that's the bulk of it.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Holy mackerel. I did look up in Colorado our poverty level.
Our poverty rate is roughly seven percent, and yet we
have twenty percent of our population on Medicaid, and I
think that in and of itself is skewed to me.

Speaker 10 (53:41):
Yeah, at the end of the Reagan administration, there were
twice as many people in poverty than on Medicaid. Now
we have twice as many people on Medicaid has in poverty.
There's actually more people on Medicaid who have they come
above the poverty line than people on Medicaid.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
They come both of the poverty lot.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Holy cow. That is appalling, absolutely appalling. Brian Blaze. I
appreciate your time, but now I'm aggravated. So maybe I
didn't want to do this interview because now I'm frustrated.
Keep doing what you're doing, and I'm gonna keep spreading
the word here. But wow, that's staggering. I can't even
believe that. That's nuts.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Sorry to frustrating.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
No, I appreciate you, Brian, thanks for coming on the
show today.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
All right, thank you.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
All right. That is Brian Blaze with the Paragon Health Institute.
They're looking for free market solutions and they do really,
really good work. They have a newsletter that you can
sign up for if you're a nerd like me and
you want to kind of keep in, you know, up
to speed here. So wow, that's crazy, absolutely crazy. Mandy,

(54:55):
I live in Mississippi. I didn't think they I don't
think they took the Medicaid expansion from OBAMACA. So they are.
They are not part of these funding schemes. Oh no, no, no, no.
The funding schemes have nothing to do with Obamacare. They
are ways to game the system. And as Brian said,
every state does it. Some states just do it better
than others. So yeah, my son earned forty six thousand

(55:20):
married to kids healthcare costs where two sixty a month.
He can't afford has nothing. Don't get it, Mandy, My
wife is a pharmacy tech. Medicaid most often will only
pay for brand name instead of generic drugs. The generic
drugs are exactly the same, but much cheaper, of course,
because I buy generic drugs because I'm cheap. Let's take

(55:42):
a quick time out back after this. Now the rubbers
about to meet the road. As they say, it was
the strange, strange case of a cross burning in Colorado Springs.
I need to you know what, I need a rod
I need like a dateline NBC voice. You know what
I'm saying, like, I need. Let me try. In the

(56:03):
run up to the twenty twenty three mayor election in
Colorado Springs, a racial slur was scrawled across a black
candidate's sign and across set on fire in front of it.
It was a stunt to generate sympathy and support for
the black candidate, Yemi Mobilatate, prosecutors have said, but two
people accused of staging it are set to go on

(56:24):
trial today charged with making a threat against him. Now
this is where this gets super interesting. And I had
Yemi Mobilatti on the show a couple of times. I
like the guy. I really do. I think he's very
energetic and he loves Colorado Springs. I would leave it
to Colorado's Springs residents to be a judge of what

(56:45):
kind of job he's doing, because I'm not paying that
close up attention. That being said, these two folks, two
African American folks, a man and a woman. They decided
Ashley black Cloud is one of the defendants, and the
second defendant is black Cloud's husband, Derek Bernard. He is

(57:10):
currently serving a life sentence right now. He was convicted
last year of ordering the killing of a rapper in
Colorado Springs. The man charged with carrying out the killing
was recently acquitted though, so now he is appealing his conviction.
But nonetheless, they decided they were going to create this

(57:31):
fake hate crime, and they were going to do it
to boost Jemmy Mobilatti's election chances. The problem for Jemmy
Mobilatti is is that he spoke to them either before
or right after, or both, and spoke to them for
a good bit of time. And Ashley black Cloud says

(57:51):
it was a hoax. She said Mobilatti knew in advance
about their plans to burn the cross but she would
not comment further, citing a court order that bars discussing
information gathered in the in the case before the trial.
She says the stunt was not intended to hurt anybody,
which is important because if you're on trial for threatening

(58:12):
and creating a threatening atmosphere, Yeah, you want to let
him know. No, it was a prank. He knew it
the whole time. But Mayor Jemmy Mobilatti will be testifying
in this trial as a victim. So this is going
to be one to watch now, Arod, why couldn't you
get on this jury? Aron's got jury, dude, tomorrow maybe
perhaps Wednesday. Wednesday, okay, but I find out tomorrow. What

(58:35):
kind of case would you want to do if you
were doing jury duty, the full gambit, like a murder
trial or something. Yeah, I don't want to do some
boring financial thing with a lot of grafts and financial stuff.
I was like, give me a.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Murder crazy people. Well, there's a lot of land in
Well County. You will get Nutty Wells. What happens up there?

Speaker 4 (58:52):
I mean, you don't know, could be could be, could
be calth even we have no idea what goes out
on up there in Weld County.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
I mean, I'm gonna lie. I want it to be intricate.
I want to be crazy. I want to have the
full experience, and I don't want to one day or
this is a simple Gutton drudge.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Okay, when we when we come back, though, you have
to do a law and order update of what you
have to talk about what the police did, and then
you have to talk about the trial, and then you
have to talk about what happened. Okay, but like can
you why not talk about it after the fact, after
the fact, No, after the fact. You it's all public record,
like when the case is done.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Yeah, when the case is done, completely done.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Yeah, when it's done, you can update. You can tell
this whole story. It's interesting. I can't say obviously, no
reason to.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
But can you if you wanted to say names or
any details at all?

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Yeah, Oh, you can say. It's all public record.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
I mean it is.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
It's really nasty. I mean, it's all public record if
it once it's put into the court, unless there's Now
there's certain times where like in AFT in a divorce proceeding,
you could get it. You could put everything under lock
and key and nobody could.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Get it, or like as a member of a let's say,
like high profile jury, I may not want to to
keep myself to keep yourself safe.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
If there's there's no high profile murder stuff coming up
in Weld right now, not that would be controversial, you know,
in terms of whether or not you're on the jury.
It's not like you're deciding whether Ojay was guilty. You know,
I don't know of anything that's going on up.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
There Well County strangler.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
No, No, that is not a thing. Do not start
the rumor that there's a Weld County strain. That is
not a thing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
I'm fascinated to see what you get, and I fully
expect you to text me, which I will keep under wraps.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
We both don't the situation.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
We both know the people that want to serve, of course,
get the do not report, correct, it's gonna happen, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
I don't know. I wonder if any of our listening
audience members have ever sat on a super interesting jury
or a super boring jury. I've been called one time
in my adult life. One time, and then I didn't
have to go, I didn't have to report. I had
to call the night before and I didn't have to report.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Or someone listening know someone in the Well County justice
system and is immediately looking up my number right now
to disqualify me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Uh oh, we got a situation here on the text line. Hi, Mandy.
I had jury duty one time in Douglas County and
they asked everybody what they did for a living, and
one fellow was a DJ from Kygo and he was
immediately dismissed.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Yeah, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
No chance of a rod going to make a journey.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
It is funny as say that there absolutely is a chance.
It does not disqualify you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
No, it doesn't disqualify you. I would use it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I personally believe working in any facet of media absolutely
should disqualify you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
But it's just not. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
I just don't think anyone in media should be on
jury duty.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Here's the thing. I am a professional. I'm a professional
judger of things. That's what I do for living. Like,
Oh is that good news, Yes, it's good news. Oh No,
that's bad news. I am a judger. I am extremely
good at judging other things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Don't they want to keep these things like on the
d L though, and like have him. Move on in
case gone forgotten about? Move on?

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
Done right? Here we're doing I don't think they want that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Why so I would I would immediately disqualify it as
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
I know, no, Mandy, I was called the jury duty
and then I showed up and then they sent me home.
I was super sad. See. I think I bet you
if there was some kind of study of talk radio
listeners that asked whether or not they wanted to serve
on jury duty, I bet that there would be a
majority yes.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
And I've never done it, never done it, you never
gotten summons.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
I mean this is the second time technically because I
had to push back.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Well, County, thank you for that, So I have to
do it this time.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
You know what, You just reminded me of something. I'll
double check with Susan Witken about this. Our former news
got us Susan Witken. She got jury duty, and not
only did they accept her on the jury, they also
made her the foreman. Yeah, and you can see Susan
serving that one extremely well, jury duty and in charge. Yeah.
Are you going to be mad with power?

Speaker 12 (01:02:54):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Ron's going to be the guy going in the jury
bug going? Please come on, come on, let me, do it?
Come on, I would be a very impartial juror. I
can make this happen. Mandy. I've been on five juries
Holy Cow, two slip and falls, two domestic violence, and
one theft. What do you live in a town with
like four people? How do you get jury duty four times?

(01:03:15):
When I was a flight attendant, we used to have
to be randomly drug tested, and in the five and
a half years that I flew for Delta Airlines, I
was tested at least once a year, sometimes twice a year,
and other flight attendants never got tested their entire career.
And I was kind of covetching about that to one
of the senior flight attendants I was working with, and
she looked at me and goes, you don't really think

(01:03:37):
it's random, do you. Once they get a clean pea
sample from you, they know they're gonna get a clean
pea sample, so they'll just keep coming back to the
well because the FAA is the one that determines, you know,
like how many tests we have to give, and if
they know you're.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Gonna pop clean, guess what. And I was like, I
don't know if that's true or not. Once they see
how glorious I would be in this role exactly. I
am going to get this at least once.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
A year and retired. Leo been called four times, dismissed
every time.

Speaker 10 (01:04:04):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
I was on a jury duty and was the jury foreman.
The case was a legal possession of an elk and
illegal killer. Wait a minute, was that the elk in
Boulder County?

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
Yeah? I was gonna say, I'm not boco this.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Well, I know, Okay, you guys, Okay, so this is
a fun story really quick. Back when I was not
working here full time, I was filling in from Kentucky
and I was filling in one afternoon for Michael Brown
and David Sarota. Okay, so it was Brown and Saroda
filling in for their show, and I read this story
about Boulder. There was an elk, big Boy. They used

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to walk through the neighborhood and a sheriff's deputing shot
and killed big Boy, and everybody was upset, and there
was a vigil and there was like all these people
came out to pray for I'm not even gett well,
they don't pray, they just do spiritual things in Boulder.
But all of these people were freaking out and I
come on the radio and say, well, I mean, was
there at least a barbecue at the vigil. Let's just

(01:04:59):
say I heard from our then program director that I
made quite the impact in my filling gig by simply
asking for a bar I mean, why waste. It's a
huge l kuhy. You shouldn't waste, waste, not want not.
The five was in Adams County forman twice. Mandy, I
agree with that. I know previous job, I was randomly

(01:05:19):
tested for seven straight months. I believe it's because they
knew I was clean, And I'm just saying I don't
know if that was accurate, but it sure felt that way.
Oh my god, we've got some good jury duty stories
coming in five, six, six, nine. Oh, we want to
hear about your jury duty stories before a Rod goes.
And if you have advice for a Rod to help
him slide in during vardir to you know, let him

(01:05:40):
know that he's going to be really smart on the jury.
Let us know that too. So we're trying to get
a Rod on a jury right because he's got jury duty.
So we're trying to get him picked. So we're looking
for tips on how to get in there. Ralph just
points this out a rod. They will disqualify you if
you know what a fully informed jury is, that the
jury is co equal to the judge as an officer
of the and about jury nullifications. So you don't know

(01:06:02):
about either of those. Okay, he's completely ignorant. He's looking
at me with a dull stare of the dairy cow
like I don't know. Mandy got called up in Adams
County once, sat around for three hours waiting to get
a case, sat for another one and a half hours
for a traffic type case, and got dismissed. Least they
could do is give you a lollipop when you get dismissed,
says this texter. I agree, free lollipops for everyone, Mandy.

(01:06:27):
I sat on a jury for a drunk driving case.
I guess you could say it was boring, but I
didn't feel like the prosecutor made the case, so I
voted not guilty, and I think I influenced a couple
of other jurors to vote with me. Mandy, I was
a jur on a murder trial. I'm a lawyer, and
surprise I got picked. It was fascinating. I don't want
to see like bloody pictures of stuff. I mean, can

(01:06:48):
I ask to be excluded? Like is there blood in
this case? Because I'm not down with blood. I don't
want to see crime scene photos, unlisteners, super sanitized. Maybe
a strangulation. How did this person die, you know, electrocution? Perhaps,
I don't know, toaster in the bathtub. It could happen.

(01:07:10):
It could very much happen. Mandy fifty five years and
jeffco never served on a jury called maybe three times,
moved to Florida, three calls in three years. Welcome to Florida. Uh,
I only participate if I'm the judge, jury and executioner,
says this text messenger. That's a good way to get
out of it. Mandy called twice, seated twice verst was

(01:07:33):
a mistrial on the first day. Second was a multi
count B and E and theft that went three and
a half days. Just glad it wasn't a violent case
with lots of gory picks exactly. That's my point, Mandy.
My dad was called for jury duty in Illinois for
a rape case. The defense attorney asked him if he
had kids. He said he had four daughters and was
immediately dismissed, yep called six times, jury five times in

(01:07:57):
thirty years. Huh, Mandy served on a jury. It was
three counts of attempted murder, gang related Years later they
tried to get him released on prejudice within the jury. Nope. Uh,
sixty two years old never once got a jury summons me. Well,
I got one one, Mandy. I'm not sure I should

(01:08:19):
admit this, and please don't use my name, but I
live in Weld County and I sat on a high
profile murder for hire case several years ago. It was
the coolest thing ever to witness the legal proxet process
in action, exactly Mandy. Years ago, I was the jury
foreman for a ten week federal trial. It was referred
to as the Cowboy trial, a case of inmate abuse

(01:08:40):
by correctional officers at FSP Florence. A very difficult and
fascinating trial. And now I need to know how that
ended up. They will line you up in the courtroom
and put twelve in the box and start dismissing those
and replacing them with others. If you're not the first eighteen,
you're probably not going to get picked. So let's see.

(01:09:02):
I've been summoned numerous times, and only once was I
not able to get off. We judged a man that
was involved in a big fight that was arrested for
being on drugs. Had I not been on the liberal
other jurors would have let him go. Too chicken to
convict a person of anything. Fortunately, justice was served and
he was convicted. Mandy, I used to get called all

(01:09:22):
the time, almost every year. About fifteen years ago, I
served on a civil case lawyer suing a lawyer and
never got a summons. Since a lawyer suing a lawyer,
that must have been lots of flowery language. I get
jerry summons about every three or four years here in
Colorado Springs. So I've lost count seven. I guess over
thirty plus years. My daughter's jealous, as she's never been summoned.

(01:09:45):
Got onto one jury. During final jury selection, I had
to answer if I agreed with an example of circumstantial evidence.
When I disagreed with the example given by the prosecutor,
the defense attorney asked for me to be dismissed. Uh uh, Mandy.
I got picked for a jury in Denver on a
rape case that involved juveniles. During the questioning, they asked

(01:10:08):
if I'd ever worked but children. At that time, I
was teaching junior high I was immediately dismissed. Mandy last
one tip for a rod. During jury selection, I was
on the lawyer's outline what the trial was about, shoplifting
from one store and returning them to another store for cash.
Each juror was asked if they could find the defendant
guilty based on the description. Several jurors said yes and

(01:10:31):
were immediately dismissed. I said he was innocent until proven guilty,
and the trial hadn't taken place yet to prove guilt,
therefore he was still innocent. I was welcomed onto the
jury with open arms, So there you go. Open minded
is the key. We'll be right back with all kinds
of stuff on the blog today when we get back.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
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Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
M got there, Bendyconnell keeping no sad, babe, Welcome to
the third hour of the show. I believe we're gonna
get a ron on that jury. I feel good about it.
Just don't say I can spot a guilty person just

(01:11:27):
like that don't care, that can though wrong off the jury. Goodbye.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
I can definitely no, don't say that person, definitely drop it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
We're trying to get you on the jury, not off
the jury. By the way, I just got this this
message from our friend Mel Gibson, not that Mel Gibson,
the Mel Gibson who works at Comedy Works. We adore hurt.
I don't actually know the other Mel Gibson, but if
you know him, love to have him on the show.
That would be awesome. You know, we were talking about doing
our movie night. They're now having a night where they're

(01:12:00):
playing Airplane, the unreleased director's cut with David Zucker and
Robert Hayes. He was the star on Airplane and it's
coming November two. I'm gonna try and get get We
got to get David Zucker on the show. He's he's
the director and we've got to get him on the show.
And I'm by I'm literally buying a ticket to this.
I want to go and see it and just I

(01:12:20):
hope a bunch of young people are there and they're
shocked and appalled. Ever seen a grown man naked?

Speaker 16 (01:12:25):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Stop it. How do you feel about gladiators? I mean airplane.
Such a Chelsea, have you ever seen airplane? Oh my gosh,
our sweet friend Chelsea from The Bull and forty other
Stations is here hanging out and you've never seen airplane?
How old are you, Chelsea? How old is Chelsea? Thirty three?
And you've never seen air See? This is what I
want to fill. This entire venue full of young people

(01:12:49):
with easily triggered emotions. I want the whole place to
be people who gasp in horror at all of the
jokes that I love, like the scene where they start
talking jive. Come on, you guys, that would not fly
in today's America. And I'm going to see it. Oh,
the movie's perfect. There's nothing wrong with the movie Airplane,

(01:13:09):
not one, no way, not going to be a thing.
So I'll keep you guys updated on that. Let's talk
about some of the stuff that just happened in the
Colorado legislative session.

Speaker 12 (01:13:20):
One.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
The governor did veto the really nasty labor bill that
would have upended all the labor law and created an
environment in Colorado where it would be very difficult to
not allow a union to pill for your money. And
you know anybody that that thinks it's okay to force

(01:13:46):
a human being to take some of their hard earned
money and give it to an organization they don't want
to belong to. Uh, we're not friends me and you.
If you believe that is that is not okay, not
okay at all. So we did veto that bill. It
was as terrible. But this came out over the weekend
and I once again Sean Boyd from CBS four. She

(01:14:06):
is a Colorado treasurer doing these stories that other people
are either not paying attention to or just not aware of.
Jared Polis, our governor has put local governments on notice
either they comply with state housing laws or they risk
at least losing one hundred million, at least one hundred
million dollars a year in grants. Now when I just

(01:14:30):
said that, did you immediately think to yourself, isn't that
what we're suing the Trump administration over because they're trying
to hold money back from us because we're a sanctuary state.
And Attorney General Phil Wiser has spent gobs and gobs
and gobs of money. And by the way, we're going

(01:14:51):
to get into that tomorrow. Corey gains from the Colorado
Accountability project is running the numbers on how much fifteen
lawsuits against the federal government is costing us. The numbers
are significant, But isn't this ironic the governor who is
in charge of a state that's now suing the federal
government because the federal government says, hey, if you guys

(01:15:13):
want to protect people from our federal immigration laws, well
then we're not going to give you the money that
you think you deserve. And guess what. That precedent has
already been established in the courts. It's already there that
they can do that. Now here's the kicker that you're
probably not expecting. I'm not opposed to it. I'm really not.

(01:15:35):
I'm not opposed to whoever has the checkbook, whether it's
the federal government or the state government. When you have
the money, you get to make the rules. That's just
a way of life. And if you don't like it,
stop taking money from the person who's making the rules
you don't like. Now, in this situation, it's insane. Colorado

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cannot afford to have federal dollars be ripped away from
our budget, can't. We can't afford it. A lot of
counties can't afford to have the state dollars ripped away
from them, so it's just cascade down. But what does
this do for Attorney General Phil Wiser's cases against the
Trump administration. I mean, is it going to be easier

(01:16:16):
or harder for him to argue in court that this
is wrong when the governor of his state is also
doing it. Certainly does seem to be undercutting the argument
that the larger player doesn't have the right to do that.
I'm going to be watching this one. I mean, I
think this is super fascinating, incredibly fascinating. Mentioned that he

(01:16:41):
went ahead and vetoed the labor bill. That's awful. So
somebody sent me this today and I've never heard of
this website, and I've never heard of this author. But
the point they're making is a point that is a
point we should discuss. We talked last week about how
time is dropping significantly in Denver and Aurora and Colorado Springs,

(01:17:05):
although crime had been going down there for some time,
but just at the same moment that we begin to
deport violent criminal aliens and arrest people in massive busts
and are deporting people in gangs. Do you think it's
a coincidence that our murder rate has dropped because, genuinely speaking,
I mean, what else has happened. It's not like we've

(01:17:28):
hired a bunch of police officers, because we haven't. Every
major department is understaffed significantly, But all of a sudden,
all of a sudden, murders go down, violent crime goes down,
All that stuff goes down at the same time that
we're deporting violent criminals. But remember, Donald Trump is awful

(01:17:49):
for deporting violent criminals. He's awful for wanting people to
follow the law to come here. He's awful. Worst person ever.
Oh geez whiz. Just watch a guy get hit by
a tree. This is why I hate having TVs on
in here. Anyway, that this column makes a direct line
like a this is happening because of this, I don't

(01:18:11):
think you can do that. You know, they always say
correlation does not equal causation. But I do think there's
an argument to be made that the Trump administration's policies
on illegal immigrants are making a positive impact for a
lot of people who are no longer being victimized by crime.
I love that all of y'all are texting me your

(01:18:32):
airplane quotes Mandy. I speak jive and don't call me
surely still use that all the time, guys, how old
ay Rod, I'm gonna regret this. Look up and see
what your airplane came out. For some reason, I'm thinking
it's like nineteen eighty one, which makes it forty plus
years old. Very close eighteen eighty dang on the nose,

(01:18:58):
so close? Wow, Leslie Nelson Jils, Oh my god, he's
so freaking.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
Tying that fifteen years ago?

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Did he really?

Speaker 7 (01:19:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Wow?

Speaker 7 (01:19:08):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Anyway, Mars Attacks. He's in Mars Attacks, right, Leslie Nielsen.
I don't know if he has or not. I've only
seen Mars Attacks once. It's not one of my favorites.
Oh what now, it's just not one of my favorites.
If I'm going to go in that weird genre of movie,
I'm going to go Galaxy Quest.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Might be.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Let's see you look that up while I talk about
what what. The governor is signing an executive order over
local No.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
No, no, that's James Wait.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
I don't think he's in marcatocks, Jack Nicholson, the President
Mars Attacks.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Over the last two years, Governor Polis assigned bills regarding
residential occupancy limits and accessory dwelling units, transit oriented communities,
and manufactured homes, and even limits on staircases and parking spots. Now,
some local governments have said, nope, we're not doing it.
We're not going to comply. And this is where this
executive order came from. It requires the Colorado Division of

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Local Government to track which cities and counties are implementing
the new laws in which art those that would those
that are would receive priority when it comes to discretionary
grants related to economic development, transportation, and energy efficiency. So
what they need to do is these counties need to
declare themselves sanctuary counties, but then say, but we're not

(01:20:32):
a sanctuary county. We're going to say we're not going
to comply, but we're not a sanctuary county for housing stuff.
The governor continues to lie about being in love with
local control, when obviously he does not. He is not
in love with local control. Well, no, I like to
walk that back. He is in love with local control

(01:20:52):
when it allows local cities to make even stricter gun laws.
That kind of local control he loves loves it. Mandy,
I take my coffee black like my men. I use
that as well, but I don't like black coffee, so
then I have to clarify. I know, I'm just kidding
against a joke from airplane, and the young people behind
the counter at Starbucks are like, what you weren't an ear?

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
It's so sad, so so sad.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
Hey, guys love the show. This is Grumpy GPA. I
hope you didn't bet the house on the Nuggets. I
appreciate what they did, but I believe they overachieved this season.
They're exposed for not having a deep bench, and where
is the defense. The thunder were quicker and we're penetrating
at will. The team has to make some changes next season. Yeah, well,

(01:21:43):
yesterday I watched the Rockies play an actual, really good
baseball game. Kept it one to zero the Arizona card.
They got one. Do Lander pitched great yesterday. He gave
up one run early, then he kept him it, you know,
pretty much, and they left The Rockies left three on
base in the ninth inning, three on base bases loaded,

(01:22:10):
and they left it in there. Then then I looked
at the Nuggets score and I just thought, I'm there's
no point in being a Denver sports fan today.

Speaker 5 (01:22:18):
Just not Training Camp two months.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
There you go, Oh really, yeah, the Nuggets have some
big changes that they need to look at, real big changes.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Mandy, wasn't the Shirley line from the Naked Gun movies?
Of course not.

Speaker 15 (01:22:29):
It was not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
It was from Airplane by the way, I was thinking
of Nielsen in Scary Movie where he's president.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
Oh yes, yes, he was a scary movie. Liam Newsen,
Liam Neeson, Whoopsie hang out just Liam Neeson is doing
a reboot of Naked Gun as Frank Drubbin. I don't
know about that, Mandy. Does home rule apply? Guys? If
you're in Douglas County and you're hearing a bunch of
stuff about what home rule does and doesn't do, there's

(01:22:56):
a lot of there's a lot of misinformation that home
rule will let Douglas County out of all of the
onerous rules and regulations that they don't like. That is
not accurate at all. If the law is written and
says it is a law of state concern that supersedes
anything in a home rule county, so yes, this would

(01:23:18):
likely all of this is an issue of state concern.
So home role doesn't do anything, Hi, Andy, If you
want to make the younger generations flip out on inappropriate jokes.
Have them watch Blazing Saddles, they'll lose their minds. Correct,
give me ham On five, Hold the Mayo. Oh I
love this movie so much. I just sent an email
to Melan said, please can we please get David Zucker

(01:23:40):
because we were just talking about doing a screening of
this movie because it's you know, needed. We need to
toughen younger people up because things they are a change
in my friends, things are getting less stupid, they're getting
less reactionary. People are just sick of it. You know, Friday,

(01:24:01):
when Governor Jerry pull has signed the Kelly Loving Act
into law and we're going to talk next with Representative
Brandy Bradley about what's actually in this bill. Now, there
were so many people on Twitter that were like, you
know what, Brianna Dedone is Brian Todone and he's a dude,
Come arrest me. I don't think it's going to help,

(01:24:21):
and I think it's going to make it worse for
trans people because they have gone from please let us
live as we want to live to we are going
to control your speech. We'll talk about it next. What
actually ended up in what was one of the most onerous,
awful bills I have ever seen in my life when
it came to the state deciding to insert itself between

(01:24:45):
parents and their children. The bills still passed and parts
of it are still garbage, and Representative Brandy Bradley has
been out shouting for the rooftops to let people know
what they are actually in for, and now she's going
to shout a little bit on the show. Resented it Bradley,
Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 13 (01:25:02):
Thanks Manny, thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
I saw your post over the weekend on X kind
of letting people know what ended up in SB thirteen
twelve or twelve? Third, wait, is it thirteen twelve or
twelve thirteen twelve? Okay, okay, I had it right the
first time, but it sounded wrong when it came out
of my mouth.

Speaker 12 (01:25:18):
What.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
First of all, there's a couple things. Let's start with
what was actually taken out. We had like eight hundred
people show up to testify against this bill, partially because
one of the provisions initially would have allowed a custody
judge to use whether or not a parent affirmed their
child's gender dysphoria as a means to remove them or

(01:25:41):
limit the parental rights of a parent that said, hey,
my kids a boy and not a girl. That that
part got ripped out, But that's not all that was
in there. So what ended up being in this bill.

Speaker 13 (01:25:52):
Well, the coercive control got taken out and the stuff
between states got taken out. Colorado Marxist Democrat legislators think
that they can terrorize other states with their legislation. In
the state of Colorado. They know that that is not constitutional,
so they took that out as well. But what remained
in is that they can still change their legal name
behind their parents' facts, which is horrific. And we know

(01:26:14):
that it's still a custy battle because we have about
twenty five different parents that have lost custody of their
children in the state of Colorado, right, just for questioning
puberty blockers.

Speaker 6 (01:26:22):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:26:22):
So that's without this even being codified in the law.
But what the business community, the church, in the private
schools should be really frustrated with is section eight that
got added in the Chosen Name under KATA or KATA
Colorado Anti Discrimination Act. Chosen Name was added under gender expression.
It talks about you can pretty much change your name

(01:26:43):
to anything you want as long as the name doesn't
contain offensive language and the individuals not requesting the name
for frivolous purposes. And the reason this is so bad
for the business community is, you know, what does that mean?
What does that mean for business owners, especially small business
communities like in my district, who we know some of
these people are flocking to enter into these businesses as

(01:27:04):
employees and then suing these business owners. It's not right, Mandy.
And then the private school sector as well.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
From what I see though, it's not just about shows
a name. It also says how the individual chooses to
be addressed. And we're talking about pronouns here, right.

Speaker 13 (01:27:21):
Absolutely, gender expression as well. Absolutely, it's chose the name,
how the individual chooses to be addressed, So pronouns, they
the dead naming, misgendering. All that is still in the bill,
and so local media said, oh, no, it's a great bill,
you know, no course of control. No, the bad parts
are still in the bill.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
So here, let me just clarify here, because there's a
couple of things about this bill I want to ask
how they actually came to be, and one of them
is apparently you can change your legal name multiple times
and your gender multiple times. Now, why was that put
in the bill?

Speaker 13 (01:27:56):
So for the identification, what they said was because of
the Trump administration and the passport only being male female,
they wanted the people to be able to change their
driver's license up to three times so that they would
be covered in case the passport identification is not acceptable.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
That's what we were told.

Speaker 13 (01:28:15):
But we know that a sixteen year old gets a
driver's license, and so they're going to be able to
change their their driver's license and sex designation three times
behind the path back of the parents.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
I mean, this is just yes, I'm confused. So are
they if they get their driver's license in Colorado and
they say I'm male. Okay, so you're male at sixteen,
and then when you're eighteen you decide no, no, I'm female.
So you then want to go change it to female.
But why would you need to change it again? I'm
confused as why you need to be able to do it.

Speaker 13 (01:28:46):
More than that, you're confused, I'm confused. We screamed it
from the well. We also said, hey, you know gun ownership.
You guys hate all of us that own guns. This
is going to create a public safety crisis. What about healthcare?
People able to we know that bag and felons can
change their names. Now they can change their sex designation.
This is a public safe crisis for the state of Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
More than that, Brandy, it is to me such a
blatant violation of my First Amendment rights, because ultimately the
First Amendment covers my right to be an a hole
to someone else, it does. I mean, we can talk
all we want about the protections of the First Amendment,
but free speech is often ugly right. And if we
are free speech absolutists, as I am, then I'm going

(01:29:29):
to protect your right to be ugly. I'm going to
protect your right to be a mean person and call
other people names, because that is fundamental to free speech.
How in the world is this going to survive a
free speech challenge.

Speaker 13 (01:29:43):
I don't think it does. I think we've seen with
Jack Phillips. I think we've seen with Marie Smith that
this doesn't survive a free speech challenge. We are not
going to be told what we can and cannot call
people and go against our religious freedom. That is clearly
stated under CAVA as well. I mean, religious freedom is
Colorado Anti Discrimination Act. So you're placing one thing against

(01:30:04):
another and I'll tell you my stepbrother fought in war
and he is like you. He's a First Amendment absolutionist.
I mean people that kneel for the flag, he said.
I fought for them just as hard as I fought
for those that stand for the flag.

Speaker 12 (01:30:14):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:30:14):
But there's a point where I am not calling a
man a woman. I refuse to do it. I refuse
to use the bathroom with him, and I'm done.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
And this is actually I think that this is going
to create backlash because over the weekend I saw a
lot of people on Twitter, specifically going after Representative Brianna
to tone and saying, Brianna is Brian, come get me?
I mean, that's how it feels right now. It's like
we've gone from people just want to be left alone

(01:30:41):
to make their own choices, which I support. Right, if
you are an adult and you think you are another gender,
I support you pursuing whatever you want to do. You're
an adult, you can make your own choices. But ultimately,
now they're saying it's not just us want to be
left alone. Now we want to control how you speak
to us. And that is so beyond the pay that
it doesn't need a religious exemption. It doesn't need any

(01:31:03):
of that. You can't tell me what I can and
cannot say, and don't give me the fire in a
crowded theater crap. Don't give me that stuff, because this
is so far away from that. What we've done is
criminalize hurting people's feelings. And with this current Colorado Civil
Rights Commission, you know they're going to go after people
because they're idiots over there, and they keep getting overturned

(01:31:25):
by the Supreme Court. So I'm guessing this is going
to end up in court, and it's going to cost
a bunch of money and it's going to be thrown out.

Speaker 13 (01:31:31):
Well, we already have lawsuits filed the minute he signed
the bill. We knew that we're I mean, look at
Adarahaji the King and Bailey the Christian camp. I mean,
you're going to see lost it up to lawsuit. We're
going to win. Those parents are going to get their
children back. This is where the tip of the spear
in Colorado. There's hope for the state. We're shining light
into the darkness, and I think.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
We went back to the state I do well, you know,
I hope so I hope this is enough to rattle
people Unfortunately, I think that we have too many childless
people in Colorado. And I'm not knocking childless people, but
when you don't have kids to worry about, it gets
really easy to say, you know what, what it shouldn't
be okay to hurt someone else's feelings. But when you've
got children and this state is actively working to put

(01:32:12):
themselves between you and your kids, it's really important. But
I'm afraid there's too many young, childless people who are
going to be like, what's the big deal? I mean,
I hate that we have to fight this out in court.
What is the lawsuit specifically that you're talking.

Speaker 13 (01:32:25):
About adf filing for the camp uptually saying that it
goes against their First Amendment rights of religious expression.

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
Well, that to me is even more egregious than this one.
The fact that they're telling a church camp that they
have to allow boys and girls to room together if
one of them says they are of the other gender.
That's that's insane. I mean, as a as a parent,
I'm not sending my kid to summer camp knowing that
that's what's going to happen. That's terrible.

Speaker 13 (01:32:51):
Well, and this bill opens that upright for any church
that has part of its property services to the public
like daycare, weddings, things like that. They will be held
liable under the Colorado Anti Discrimination Act. So we'll private
schools that pallor that opened their all to summer camps
and in the summertime for public school kids to go to.
I mean, this is a really bad bill. And people

(01:33:13):
that are wake up and understand how bad this bill is.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
And I think if you are wondering how bad the
bill is, it was signed Friday afternoon in a dark
room with no people around him. The governor is so
proud of this legislation that he signed it in private,
without a ceremony and just made it law with no conversation.
I mean, to me, that says all you need to know.

Speaker 13 (01:33:34):
Yeah, he's an embarrassment to our state. I hope he
never has another political office that he is a leader of.
I hope that we shut that down as a state
and as the COHESI mine with all these accidental activists
that have come together, I hope that he just filled
his bill by signing that bill into law.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
Well, we all know, at least I believe that he's
going to run for a president. I've been saying it
for years, he's lining it up. He's trying to figure
out how to split the baby in a way like, oh,
how can I pretend to be a libertarian but still
sign these onerous bills that literally take away someone's first
a memory. Right, So hopefully this stuff will come back
to bite him in the butt when he's running, because
I sure I'm gonna make hay of it.

Speaker 13 (01:34:12):
I mean, I assure him he took our first amendment,
he took our second amendment with the most unconstitutional gun
law that he signed into law.

Speaker 6 (01:34:19):
Too.

Speaker 13 (01:34:20):
I think he has filled his bill, and I'm hopeful
for that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
I am too representative, Brandy Bradley. I really appreciate two things.
Number one, you coming and making time for us on
the show, and number two, you continuing to talk about
this stuff and help educate parents about how bad some
of this stuff is. And please let's talk again when
this lawsuit starts, to move forward a little bit and
see if we can get some traction on that issue,

(01:34:42):
because it's a shame that our legislature does not care
about the US Constitution. Because that's what it feels like.

Speaker 13 (01:34:50):
I agree, Mandy. Thanks for getting the word out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
God bless you guys.

Speaker 13 (01:34:53):
I appreciate you all.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Right, thanks, that's representative Brandy Bradley and I mean you guys.
So just to be clear, the state of Colorado was
outlad hurting someone's feelings, but only if they're in a
certain protected class, like right now, Nick Ferguson, one of
my favorites, just walked in the studio. If I called

(01:35:17):
you the N word right now, nothing would happen to
me in Colorado. First of all, I wouldn't do that
because that's not how I roll. You're not you're not
the right kind of protected class. But if you were
trans and I called you the opposite gender, now you
could file a complaint against me and I would have
to go between the Civil Rights Is that what we're
doing now? Yeah, we've criminalized calling people a name they

(01:35:38):
don't want to be called by. H So you know interesting,
what did you tell me your nickname was? Was?

Speaker 10 (01:35:44):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
You were big?

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Al?

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
That was Toaster Oven? Who was that? Okay? That was Toaster?
My nickname was train Wreck. Wait a minute, knowing what
I know about you, are a time in your life
when that applied because you were one of the most focused,
goal oriented, hard working get it done kind of.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
I don't see train wreck being at all unless it's ironic. Well,
let me put in context.

Speaker 16 (01:36:16):
Okay, I mean I did play football for right, right,
and I play safety.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
Oh well, okay, physical train wreck, yes, got you? Okay, Yeah,
that's that's where I was going. And I was like,
that is inconsistent with the Nick ferguson that I know.
That is not consistent at all, by the way, you guys.
I spent the first hour talking about the two Joe
Biden stories today. One the her tape that came out

(01:36:41):
last week, which is absolutely devastating for the Democratic Party
and all of the people in the media who conspired
to cover up Joe Biden's declimb. We also talked about
his announcement of the advanced cancer and I don't believe
that he just found out he had cancer.

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
Where can they hear you?

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
I was getting there. Thank you for seeing me up
for that. You can go and hear it all on
the beautiful Digital iHeartRadio app. And while you're there, do
me a solid. Make the Mandy Condall Show one of
your presets along with KOA, because that matters in this company.
Now I'm being judged on that. So if you could
do that, that'd be awesome. Just do a little preset
Mandy Conda's show and you can listen to the conversation.

(01:37:21):
But Nick and I were talking about it this morning.
That's why I brought it to back.

Speaker 16 (01:37:23):
Yeah, I want to touch on it really briefly because
obviously some of the best doctors in the world, the
presidencies and when it comes to prostate cancer is not
something that happens overnight.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
Is a graduate thing.

Speaker 16 (01:37:36):
And I'm thinking, okay, well, having the best healthcare in
the world and you're getting these tests, how did you
miss that?

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
How was that missed well? One of our textures said
that his dad lived with prostate cancer for seventeen years
until it metastasized and went to the bone. So my
thinking is he had prostate cancer, but they don't always
treat prostate cancer depending on your age, the kind of
cancer is whatever. I think they knew he had state
cancer and have been watching it, watching it, watching it,
and then boom, here we go. I just don't there's

(01:38:06):
zero percent chance in my mind that he didn't already
hit well with prostate cancer.

Speaker 16 (01:38:10):
The idea is that at age forty forty three, that's
when he's supposed to get the screenings.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
But I tell guys, don't worry weight to forty, do
it at thirty. I will tell you that. Right now,
we're seeing a massive increase in young people getting cancer,
and they're getting serious cancer. They're getting colon cancer twenty
five their diet. I think it's just a highly processed,
ultra priate at war. We don't know what COVID did

(01:38:38):
to us physically true. We don't know what the COVID
vaccines did to us physically true. I think both of
those things had an impact. But the combination of lifestyle
choices and food and all of that stuff, now we're
seeing a rise. So yeah, get the PSA test, Fay. So, yes,
you're right.

Speaker 16 (01:38:53):
As far as process food, that's kind of going up.
A lot of individuals are not exercising the way they
eat to But here's another thing too.

Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
Most individuals keep their phones where in their body. From
what I think, it's through your pocket your phone.

Speaker 16 (01:39:08):
There's something you will look on your phone right now
and go through settings, and it can tell you how
much radiation your phone actually produces based on in the
proximity it is to your body.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
So mostly my hand is going to get cancer, is
always in my head. I hope, I hope, I hope
not because my phone is in my hand too as well.

Speaker 16 (01:39:28):
But there's a number of individuals who keep their phone
in their pocket and it's led to a lot of
or growing numbers of cancer.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
And I'm not And once again this meilation does not
equal causation. So it is just a thing that Nick
noted he is not giving out medical advice. I mean,
that's a fair thing, though. I think that, you know,
we have so much technology, we have so much electricity,
we have so many you know, waves. I think we
we have advanced beyond our knowledge of how all of

(01:40:00):
this stuff comes together in our bodies, you know. And
then you got microplastics, so you got all kinds of
stuff happening right now. I happen to think that a
vast majority of human beings are incredibly resilient to exterior stimuli,
to environmental factors, stuff like that, because a vast majority
of us don't get cancer, Let's be real, like, I mean,

(01:40:20):
overwhelming a majority of us are not going to get cancer.
But then those unlucky few who are like the canary
and the coal mine to get that cancer when they're
twenty five. Do you know that we have to then
go back and say what did you do and what
could have caused this? Do you have a fair day bag?

Speaker 8 (01:40:35):
I might?

Speaker 4 (01:40:36):
Okaybe I do. Maybe I don't, okay, right, I might
have a Fara day box. You don't know, Nick, I'm
just playing it for the apocalypse, my friend.

Speaker 16 (01:40:44):
I know, because I'll put my phone into fair day case. Really, yes,
yes I do. Wow, put it in there right away.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
Boom. Yes, I do sleep with it next to my bed,
but it's on do not Disturb so it doesn't wake
me up. Yeah, put it in a bag. The whole nine.
How do you need in the middle of And I
am not answering the phone, like, I'm not the person
you want to call at three am. It's not gonna happen.
I'm not a doctor. Yeah, I'm unavailable. Yes, yes, that's
actually very interesting, the fair day Bag. So in any case,

(01:41:15):
one last thing I've got to you, guys. The blog
is so good today, not that it's not good every day,
but I there's some really really good stories on the
blog today. You traveling for Memorial Day weekend, like, oh,
there was so much like that why I gave you
the steak face on that. Yes, my kids are coming
to see us, so I'm super goods. That's great.

Speaker 16 (01:41:36):
Yeah, Memorial Days like Thanksgiving, everyone wants to travel because
we've all.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
Been cooped up all winter and we're ready for some
sun and five. And that's why I don't travel.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
Big news in Manitue Springs real quick. The Manitoo Springs
penny arcade has sold after ninety three years. Have the
same family and I read this and I got a
little panicky because I love the Manchuse Springs penny arcade.
But the guy who bought it just as much as
I do. Son, You're not gonna change anything, can.

Speaker 7 (01:42:04):
Still be there.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
So that was relief right there.

Speaker 16 (01:42:08):
Ar.

Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
Now it's time for the most exciting segment all the
radio of It's gude. Why did that sound like an
old arcade like pinball? No no, no, no no no
no no no no no no no ex actually exactly,
I have to pickyback off. What the story that, man? Yes,
I'm excited about that that. I love the penny arcade

(01:42:31):
in Manito. It's one of my favorite things in Colorado.
I don't know why, because they have jousted. Shit, they
have jousts. I go, yeah, anyway, what is our dad
joke of the day?

Speaker 13 (01:42:41):
Please?

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
Okay, you gotta help me figure out the math here,
because it's a five minute walk from my house to
the pub. A thirty five minute walk from the pub
to my house. I don't understand it. The difference is staggering.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
All right? What two movies? Whoa sorry of the day?
Sat adjective? I got excited? It's a Sandra Mond question adjective. Antithetical.
Antithetical means opposite of what you're talking about, Like it's
it's in opposition to what you're talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
Nick.

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
Is she right?

Speaker 16 (01:43:15):
I'm gonna say yes, because Manny's been doing this a
long time and I'm not gonna go against it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
She is right anyway. Today's trivia question what twenty twenty
two movies? Stars Sandra Bullock as a romance novelist who
is kidnapped and thrusting a jungle adventure along with her
cover model. I saw it. It wasn't very good.

Speaker 5 (01:43:33):
I don't remember if I saw it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
I saw it, and I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:43:35):
Remember the name.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
Yes, yes, what's it called? I don't know. The movie
was so not good that you can't remember what it
was calling it. I didn't love it. I love Sandra
Bullock and I her other movies are so much better.
Brad Pitt did the cameo. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
No, oh, no, Galgado is she's wonder woman. What come on?
Come on, come on?

Speaker 5 (01:44:01):
I know you both are not behind GOODO.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
I guess I love her.

Speaker 5 (01:44:06):
L O V E G A L to cancel this
of the day.

Speaker 7 (01:44:09):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
What is that Jeffery got?

Speaker 7 (01:44:10):
Please?

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
Bad actresses? No, let's play cards. Let's play cards. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
In addition to two regular decks of fifty two cards,
the game of Canasta uses four of these as wild cards.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
Well, first of all, I don't even know what NASA
is either. I don't either not actually guess.

Speaker 5 (01:44:34):
That's not how it works.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
But I think I don't know. I mean, if they
use jokers, I don't know. But that's not how I'm
not guessing. I'm just asking the answer to the question.

Speaker 5 (01:44:42):
Well, you would have gotten a point what is jokers?
But you don't. The highest hand you can have in
five card stud is called this.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
Mandy with the Royal flush.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
That is correct. Okay, the suit cards of this fortune
telling deck of cards many what's taro?

Speaker 5 (01:44:58):
That is correct?

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
Energy and trainer cards are two of the three types
in the trading card version of this game.

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
Make sure you have a good.

Speaker 4 (01:45:07):
Fit one more time. Read that one more time.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
Energy and trainer cards are two of the three types
in this trading card version of this game.

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
I don't know the first thing. They came to mind
with your mind you, but I know that's not the
right answer.

Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
Oh my word, what is Pokemon?

Speaker 9 (01:45:25):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
No, Pokemon? Pokey? This pokey?

Speaker 9 (01:45:29):
That?

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
No Pokemon?

Speaker 5 (01:45:30):
What to walk out?

Speaker 4 (01:45:31):
Let's score two to zero?

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
Do you play gin with fifty two cards? But pinocci
with there you go with this many cards, so.

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
You gotta get this one. No, I don't know cards.
The word just that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:46):
I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
I've never played pino forty eight. Okay, there you go.
We sucked to that category.

Speaker 5 (01:45:51):
Yeah, I got two Pokemon.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
Come on, I don't play cards. I don't know cards.

Speaker 5 (01:45:56):
People culture though.

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
People try to explain a card game to me, it's
like white noise, just like that. Anyway is coming up next.
By the way, I'm three for three. I just want
you to notice that you do three for three a
lot better than Ross and Right. Thank you very much,
Thank you very much. Nick, You're my favorite. Nick Ferguson,
thank you favorite. We'll be back tomorrow. Keep it right

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