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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What actually ended up in what was one of the
most onerous, awful bills I have ever seen in my
life when it came to the state deciding to insert
itself between parents and their children.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The bills still passed and parts.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Of it are still garbage, and Representative Brandy Bradley has
been out shouting for the rooftops to let people know
what they are actually in for, and now she's going
to shout a little bit on the show. Representative Bradley,
welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Thanks many thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I saw your post over the weekend on X kind
of letting people know what ended up in SB thirteen
twelve or twelve Third, wait, is it thirteen twelve or
twelve thirteen? Okay, okay, I had it right the first time,
but it sounded wrong when it came out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
What.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
First of all, there's a couple things. Let's start with
what was actually taken out. We had like eight hundred
people show up to testify against this bill, partially because
one of the provisions initially would have allowed a custody
judge to use whether or not a parent affirmed their
child's gender dysphoria as a means to remove them or
(01:08):
limit the parental rights of a parent that said, hey,
my kids a boy and not a girl. That part
got ripped out, But that's not all that was in there.
So what ended up being in this bill, well.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The coercive control got taken out and the stuff between
states got taken out. Of Colorado Marxist Democrat legislators think
that they can terrorize other states with their legislation. In
the state of Colorado, they know that that is not constitutional,
so they took that out as well. But what remained
in is that they can still change their legal name
behind their parents' backs, which is horrific. And we know
(01:41):
that it's still a custody battle because we have about
twenty five different parents that have lost custy of their
children in the state of Colorado, right, just for questioning
puberty blockers. Right. So that's without this even being codified
the law. But what the business community, the church, in
the private schools should be really frustrated with is section
eight that got added in the Chosen name under KATA
(02:02):
or KATA Colorado Anti Discrimination Act Chose the name was
added under gender expression. It talks about you can pretty
much change your name to anything you want, as long
as the name doesn't contain offensive language and the individuals
not requesting the name for frivolous purposes. And the reason
this is so bad for the business community of you know,
what does that mean? What does that mean for business owners,
(02:23):
especially in small business communities like in my district, who
we know some of these people are flocking to enter
into these businesses as employees and then suing these business
owners and it's not right, Mandy. And then the private
school sector as well.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
From what I see though, it's not just about chosen name.
It also says how the individual chooses to be addressed.
And we're talking about pronouns here, right.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Absolutely, gender expression as well. Absolutely, it's chose the name,
how the individual chooses to be addressed, So pronouns they
the dead naming, misgendering. All that is still in the bill.
And media said, oh no, it's it's a great bill,
you know, no course of control. No, the bad parts
are still in the sill.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So here, let me just clarify here, because there's a
couple of things about this bill I want to ask
how they actually came to be, And one of them
is apparently you can change your legal name multiple times
and your gender multiple times?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Now why was that put in the bill?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So for the identification, what they said was because of
the Trump administration and the passport only being male female,
they wanted the people to be able to change their
driver's license up to three times so that they would
be covered in case the passport identification is not acceptable.
That's what we were told. But we know that a
sixteen year old gets the driver's license, and so they
(03:45):
are going to be able to change their their driver's
license and sex designation three times behind the path back
to the parents.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I mean, this is just yes, I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I'm so are they if they get their driver's license
in Colorado and they say I'm male, Okay, so you're
male at sixteen, and then when you're eighteen you decide no, no,
I'm female. So you then want to go change it
to female. But why would you need to change it again?
I'm confused as why you need to be able to
do it. More than that, you're.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Confused, I'm confused. We screamed it from the well. We
also said, hey, you know gun ownership. You guys hate
all of us that own guns. This is going to
create a public safety crisis. What about healthcare people able
to We know that bag and Fellons can change their names,
now they can change their sex designation. This is a
public safe crisis for the state of Colorado.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
More than that, Brandy, it is to me such a
blatant violation of my First Amendment rights, because ultimately the
First Amendment covers my right to be an a hole
to someone else.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It does.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I mean, we can talk all we want about the
protections of the First Amendment, but free speech is often
ugly right. And if we are free speech absolutists, as
I am, then I'm going to protect your right to
be ugly. I'm going to protect your right to be
a mean person and call other people names, because that
is fundamental to free speech. How in the world is
this going to survive a free speech challenge.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I don't think it does. I think we've seen with
Jack Phillips. I think we've seen with Marie Smith that
this doesn't survive a free speech challenge. We are not
going to be told what we can and cannot call
people and go against our religious freedom that is clearly
stated under KATA as well. I mean, religious freedom is
stated under the Colorado Anti Discrimination Act, So you're placing
(05:30):
one thing against another. And I'll tell you my stepbrother
fought in war and he is like you. He's a
first a moment absolutionist. Me. People that kneel for the flag,
he said, I fought for them just as hard as
I fought for those that stand for the flag.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But there's a point where I am not calling a
man a woman. I refuse to do it. I refuse
to use a bathroom with him, and I'm done.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And this is actually I think that this is going
to create backlash because over the weekend I saw a
lot of people on Twitter, specifically going after Representative Brianna
to Toe and saying, Brianna is Brian, come get me?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I mean, that's how it feels right now.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It's like we've gone from people just want to be
left alone to make their own choices, which I support. Right,
if you are an adult and you think you are
another gender, I support you pursuing whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You want to do.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You're an adult, you can make your own choices. But ultimately,
now they're saying it's not just us wanting to be
left alone. Now we want to control how you speak
to us. And that is so beyond the pale that
it doesn't need a religious exemption, it doesn't need any
of that. You can't tell me what I can and
cannot say, and don't give me the fire in a
crowded theater crap. Don't give me that stuff, because this
(06:39):
is so far away from that. What we've done is
criminalize hurting people's feelings. And with this current Colorado Civil
Rights Commission, you know they're going to go after people
because they're idiots over there, and they keep getting overturned
by the Supreme Court. So I'm guessing this is going
to end up in court. It's going to cost a
bunch of money, and it's going to be thrown out.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, we already have lawsuits the minute he signed the bill.
We knew that we're I mean, look at Adarahajie the
camp and Bailey the Christian Camp. I mean, you're going
to see lost it up to lawsuit. We're going to win.
Those parents are going to get their children back. This
is where the tip of the spear in Colorado. There's
hope for the state. We're shining light into the darkness.
And I think we went back the state.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I do well, I.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You know, I hope. So I hope this is enough
to rattle people. Unfortunately, I think that we have too
many childless people in Colorado. And I'm not knocking childless people,
but when you don't have kids to worry about, it
gets really easy to say, you know what, what it
shouldn't be okay to hurt someone else's feelings. But when
you've got children and this state is actively working to
put themselves between you and your kids, it's really important.
(07:43):
But I'm afraid there's too many young, childless people who
are going to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Be like, what's the big deal? I mean, I hate
that we have to fight this out in court. What
is the lawsuit?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Specifically that you're talking about adf filing for the camp
up and mutally saying that it goes against their First
Amendment rights of religious expression.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, that to me is even more egregious than this one.
The fact that they're telling a church camp that they
have to allow boys and girls to room together if
one of them says they are of the other gender.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That's that's insane.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I mean, as a as a parent, I'm not sending
my kid to summer camp knowing that that's what's going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's terrible.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, and this bill opens that upright for any church
that has part of its property services to the public,
like daycare, weddings, things like that, they will be held
liable under the Colorado Anti Discrimination Act. So we'll private
schools that like Palor that opened their well to summer
camps and in the summertime for public school kids to
go to. I mean, this is a really bad bill.
(08:39):
And people that are wake up and understand how bad
this bill is.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And I think if you are wondering how bad the
bill is, it was signed Friday afternoon in a dark
room with no people around him. The governor is so
proud of this legislation that he signed it in private,
without a ceremony and just made it law with no conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I mean, to me, that says all you need to know.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, he's an embarrassment to our state. I hope he
never has another political office that he is a leader of.
I hope that we shut that down as a state
and as the COHESI Vine, with all these accidental activists
that have come together, I hope that he just filled
his dell by signing that bill into law.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, we all know at least I believe that he's
going to run for president. I've been saying it for years.
He's lining it up. He's trying to figure out how
to split the baby in a way like, oh, how
can I pretend to be a libertarian but still sign
these onerous bills that literally take away someone's first a memory. Right.
So hopefully this stuff will come back to bite him
in the butt when he's running, because I sure I'm
(09:38):
going to make hay of it.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I mean, I as sure am.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
He took our first amendment, he took our second amendment
with the most unconstitutional gun law that he signed into law, too.
I think he has filled his Dell and I'm hopeful
for that.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I am too representative Brandy Bradley. I really appreciate two things.
Number one, you coming and making time for us on
the show, and number two, you continuing to talk about
this stuff and help educate parents about how bad some
of this stuff is. And please let's talk again when
this lawsuit starts, to move forward a little bit and
see if we can get some traction on that issue,
(10:09):
because it's a shame that our legislature does not care
about the US Constitution, because that's what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I agree, Mandy. Thanks for getting the word out. God
bless you guys. I appreciate you all right.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Thanks, that's representative Brandy Bradley.
What actually ended up in what was one of the
most onerous, awful bills I have ever seen in my
life when it came to the state deciding to insert
itself between parents and their children.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The bills still passed and parts.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Of it are still garbage, and Representative Brandy Bradley has
been out shouting for the rooftops to let people know
what they are actually in for, and now she's going
to shout a little bit on the show. Representative Bradley,
welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Thanks many thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I saw your post over the weekend on X kind
of letting people know what ended up in SB thirteen
twelve or twelve Third, wait, is it thirteen twelve or
twelve thirteen? Okay, okay, I had it right the first time,
but it sounded wrong when it came out of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
What.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
First of all, there's a couple things. Let's start with
what was actually taken out. We had like eight hundred
people show up to testify against this bill, partially because
one of the provisions initially would have allowed a custody
judge to use whether or not a parent affirmed their
child's gender dysphoria as a means to remove them or
(01:08):
limit the parental rights of a parent that said, hey,
my kids a boy and not a girl. That part
got ripped out, But that's not all that was in there.
So what ended up being in this bill, well.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The coercive control got taken out and the stuff between
states got taken out. Of Colorado Marxist Democrat legislators think
that they can terrorize other states with their legislation. In
the state of Colorado, they know that that is not constitutional,
so they took that out as well. But what remained
in is that they can still change their legal name
behind their parents' backs, which is horrific. And we know
(01:41):
that it's still a custody battle because we have about
twenty five different parents that have lost custy of their
children in the state of Colorado, right, just for questioning
puberty blockers. Right. So that's without this even being codified
the law. But what the business community, the church, in
the private schools should be really frustrated with is section
eight that got added in the Chosen name under KATA
(02:02):
or KATA Colorado Anti Discrimination Act Chose the name was
added under gender expression. It talks about you can pretty
much change your name to anything you want, as long
as the name doesn't contain offensive language and the individuals
not requesting the name for frivolous purposes. And the reason
this is so bad for the business community of you know,
what does that mean? What does that mean for business owners,
(02:23):
especially in small business communities like in my district, who
we know some of these people are flocking to enter
into these businesses as employees and then suing these business
owners and it's not right, Mandy. And then the private
school sector as well.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
From what I see though, it's not just about chosen name.
It also says how the individual chooses to be addressed.
And we're talking about pronouns here, right.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Absolutely, gender expression as well. Absolutely, it's chose the name,
how the individual chooses to be addressed, So pronouns they
the dead naming, misgendering. All that is still in the bill.
And media said, oh no, it's it's a great bill,
you know, no course of control. No, the bad parts
are still in the sill.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So here, let me just clarify here, because there's a
couple of things about this bill I want to ask
how they actually came to be, And one of them
is apparently you can change your legal name multiple times
and your gender multiple times?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Now why was that put in the bill?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So for the identification, what they said was because of
the Trump administration and the passport only being male female,
they wanted the people to be able to change their
driver's license up to three times so that they would
be covered in case the passport identification is not acceptable.
That's what we were told. But we know that a
sixteen year old gets the driver's license, and so they
(03:45):
are going to be able to change their their driver's
license and sex designation three times behind the path back
to the parents.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I mean, this is just yes, I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I'm so are they if they get their driver's license
in Colorado and they say I'm male, Okay, so you're
male at sixteen, and then when you're eighteen you decide no, no,
I'm female. So you then want to go change it
to female. But why would you need to change it again?
I'm confused as why you need to be able to
do it. More than that, you're.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Confused, I'm confused. We screamed it from the well. We
also said, hey, you know gun ownership. You guys hate
all of us that own guns. This is going to
create a public safety crisis. What about healthcare people able
to We know that bag and Fellons can change their names,
now they can change their sex designation. This is a
public safe crisis for the state of Colorado.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
More than that, Brandy, it is to me such a
blatant violation of my First Amendment rights, because ultimately the
First Amendment covers my right to be an a hole
to someone else.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It does.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I mean, we can talk all we want about the
protections of the First Amendment, but free speech is often
ugly right. And if we are free speech absolutists, as
I am, then I'm going to protect your right to
be ugly. I'm going to protect your right to be
a mean person and call other people names, because that
is fundamental to free speech. How in the world is
this going to survive a free speech challenge.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I don't think it does. I think we've seen with
Jack Phillips. I think we've seen with Marie Smith that
this doesn't survive a free speech challenge. We are not
going to be told what we can and cannot call
people and go against our religious freedom that is clearly
stated under KATA as well. I mean, religious freedom is
stated under the Colorado Anti Discrimination Act, So you're placing
(05:30):
one thing against another. And I'll tell you my stepbrother
fought in war and he is like you. He's a
first a moment absolutionist. Me. People that kneel for the flag,
he said, I fought for them just as hard as
I fought for those that stand for the flag.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But there's a point where I am not calling a
man a woman. I refuse to do it. I refuse
to use a bathroom with him, and I'm done.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And this is actually I think that this is going
to create backlash because over the weekend I saw a
lot of people on Twitter, specifically going after Representative Brianna
to Toe and saying, Brianna is Brian, come get me?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I mean, that's how it feels right now.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It's like we've gone from people just want to be
left alone to make their own choices, which I support. Right,
if you are an adult and you think you are
another gender, I support you pursuing whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You want to do.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You're an adult, you can make your own choices. But ultimately,
now they're saying it's not just us wanting to be
left alone. Now we want to control how you speak
to us. And that is so beyond the pale that
it doesn't need a religious exemption, it doesn't need any
of that. You can't tell me what I can and
cannot say, and don't give me the fire in a
crowded theater crap. Don't give me that stuff, because this
(06:39):
is so far away from that. What we've done is
criminalize hurting people's feelings. And with this current Colorado Civil
Rights Commission, you know they're going to go after people
because they're idiots over there, and they keep getting overturned
by the Supreme Court. So I'm guessing this is going
to end up in court. It's going to cost a
bunch of money, and it's going to be thrown out.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, we already have lawsuits the minute he signed the bill.
We knew that we're I mean, look at Adarahajie the
camp and Bailey the Christian Camp. I mean, you're going
to see lost it up to lawsuit. We're going to win.
Those parents are going to get their children back. This
is where the tip of the spear in Colorado. There's
hope for the state. We're shining light into the darkness.
And I think we went back the state.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I do well, I.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You know, I hope. So I hope this is enough
to rattle people. Unfortunately, I think that we have too
many childless people in Colorado. And I'm not knocking childless people,
but when you don't have kids to worry about, it
gets really easy to say, you know what, what it
shouldn't be okay to hurt someone else's feelings. But when
you've got children and this state is actively working to
put themselves between you and your kids, it's really important.
(07:43):
But I'm afraid there's too many young, childless people who
are going to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Be like, what's the big deal? I mean, I hate
that we have to fight this out in court. What
is the lawsuit?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Specifically that you're talking about adf filing for the camp
up and mutally saying that it goes against their First
Amendment rights of religious expression.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, that to me is even more egregious than this one.
The fact that they're telling a church camp that they
have to allow boys and girls to room together if
one of them says they are of the other gender.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That's that's insane.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I mean, as a as a parent, I'm not sending
my kid to summer camp knowing that that's what's going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's terrible.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, and this bill opens that upright for any church
that has part of its property services to the public,
like daycare, weddings, things like that, they will be held
liable under the Colorado Anti Discrimination Act. So we'll private
schools that like Palor that opened their well to summer
camps and in the summertime for public school kids to
go to. I mean, this is a really bad bill.
(08:39):
And people that are wake up and understand how bad
this bill is.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And I think if you are wondering how bad the
bill is, it was signed Friday afternoon in a dark
room with no people around him. The governor is so
proud of this legislation that he signed it in private,
without a ceremony and just made it law with no conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I mean, to me, that says all you need to know.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, he's an embarrassment to our state. I hope he
never has another political office that he is a leader of.
I hope that we shut that down as a state
and as the COHESI Vine, with all these accidental activists
that have come together, I hope that he just filled
his dell by signing that bill into law.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, we all know at least I believe that he's
going to run for president. I've been saying it for years.
He's lining it up. He's trying to figure out how
to split the baby in a way like, oh, how
can I pretend to be a libertarian but still sign
these onerous bills that literally take away someone's first a memory. Right.
So hopefully this stuff will come back to bite him
in the butt when he's running, because I sure I'm
(09:38):
going to make hay of it.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I mean, I as sure am.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
He took our first amendment, he took our second amendment
with the most unconstitutional gun law that he signed into law, too.
I think he has filled his Dell and I'm hopeful
for that.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I am too representative Brandy Bradley. I really appreciate two things.
Number one, you coming and making time for us on
the show, and number two, you continuing to talk about
this stuff and help educate parents about how bad some
of this stuff is. And please let's talk again when
this lawsuit starts, to move forward a little bit and
see if we can get some traction on that issue,
(10:09):
because it's a shame that our legislature does not care
about the US Constitution, because that's what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I agree, Mandy. Thanks for getting the word out. God
bless you guys. I appreciate you all right.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Thanks, that's representative Brandy Bradley.
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