05-20-24 FULL SHOW - Christian Toto Is On To Talk About Steffan's New Documentary

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We are going to take you rightthrough to three p m. We've got
a chuck full show and I domean chalk fall. So let's jump right
in by going to see where theblog is. Find the blog by going
to mandy'sblog dot com. Mandy'sblog dotcom No apostrophe, mandy'sblog dot com.
Look for the headline that says fivetwenty twenty four blog Christian Toto's on to

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talk about Stephan's new documentary. Clickon that and here are the headlines you
will find within. I think youwith in office half of American all with
ships and clipmas and say that's goingto press plat day on the blog.
I saw the Stephan Tubbs new fentanyldocumentary this weekend. Gay folks are unhappy
with a bill backed by other gayfolks. Gender affirming care seems to increase

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suicide risk. What is the grandbargain? Colorado Democrats struck with oil and
gas. Colorado will codify abortion rightsinto the constitution this year. Nine News
knows up what's up with the zipper? The governor vetoed some bills Friday.
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by this. Something rich people issomething about rich people. We should know.
Those are the headlines on the blog. Thank you band for showing I
mean is Monday. They probably hada hard weekend drinking, Jeff or you
know, just does it smell likebooze and old cigarettes in there right now?
That a little bit? Yeah,it'll well, that's where we got
the fan by the door. Now, So as they make their way out,

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you can you know. I willsay this. So obviously if you
guys met, maybe some of youdon't know this, but as part of
the iHeartMedia family, we have lotsof music stations in the building with us,
and as part of that, aKBCO has Studio C and ninety three
point three brings in bands and theyplay right below us on the third floor.

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And as I got out of mycar this morning, I was overcome
with the smell of the smoking marijuanaand I was like, Okay, there's
got to be a band here,because usually you don't smell it in the
parking lot like that. It waslike, and I looked over and there's
the band, you know, theband bus, and I was like,
yeah, okay, there's a bandhere, Like apparently Spaccoli's band was here
this morning. So that was mygreeting, like, hey, yeah,

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somebody's getting hih in the parking lotanyway, and me to go on that
little side note. Anyway, We'vegot a lot of stuff that's going on,
and we've got a lot of peoplecoming in today and coming on the
show today. But I want tostart with this. We've got Christian Toto
coming up at one o'clock because overthe weekend I went and saw Stephan Tubb's
new documentary Fentanel. I went tothe premiere in Colorado Springs and I took

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my daughter in one of her verygood friends, and the documentary is outstanding.
Will get into the details about itwhen we talk to Christian because he
also reviewed it for his site,hollywoodantoto dot com, an excellent site if
you want information on movies that youmight want to go see entertainment that is
reviewed from a right leaning perspective,so it'll give you I trust Christian so

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much with movie reviews. But aswe're leaving, my daughter's friend said,
Wow, thank you so much fortaking me to that because I had heard
a Fentanel. But now I'm armedwith information. No, those kid's fifteen
years old, and I thought,that is what this film is about.
You know, that is that's whatthis film is about, is arming people

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with information because people are being poisonedto death. And you know, you
can save your judgments for people whouse recreational drugs in this issue because my
thinking is, though you may notchoose to use recreational drugs, and maybe
you have never used recreational drugs.I hope that you would not think that

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the penalty for using recreational drugs shouldbe death. And in this film,
recreational drugs are poisoning people to deathbecause they are mixed with sentinel and it
is. It's a very very compellingdocumentary and Stephan has made it free already.
No, normally what happens with thedocumentary is you try to get some

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kind of distribution. You try toget on Netflix, you try to get
here, try to get there.Stephan was like, this is Stefan even
said, he said this, thisis the most important documentary or the most
important thing I've ever done. Andthe good news is is that it's been
uploaded for four days, that ithas one hundred and three thousand views on
YouTube. So I hope that notonly if you watch it on YouTube,

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because I am meted it on theblog today, but please leave a comment,
if you have a YouTube subscription,leave a comment, leave a rating,
you know, give it a thumbsup, just because all of that
stuff helps beat the algorithms on YouTubeand it gets it shown to more people.
So oh no, he doesn't haveit. Oh here we go I'm
looking to see if he has thecomments yes, yes, and I am

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going to be reaching out. I'vealready talked to Douglas County Superintendent Aaron Kin
about this film, and I hopethat if you have kids in school,
you would talk to your school boardand superintendent about having this film shown in
at least high schools. There isa I mean barely a smattering of language.

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There's like a handful of bad wordsin this and I guarantee your high
school student here's way worse every singleday at school. That should not be
enough to keep this this film frombeing shown to high school students. I
personally think that middle school students wouldbenefit from it as well, but that
would be an individual decision for theparents. And since it's free on YouTube,

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you can do that. But whenwe have something in our society that
has changed the game completely in adeadly way, where people think they're getting
cocaine and it's laced with fentanyl.Kids are buying guess what the counterfeit vape
cartridges the kids buy on the streets, Those have fentanyl in them. Every

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illegal drug has fentanyl in it atthis point, and seven out of ten
of those pills have a fatal dosefor someone who is not used to taking
fentanyl. The saddest part of thiswhole thing was, and Stephan and I
were talking that now when they havea slew of people people who die from
some batch of some drug, nowattics seek that drug out because they figure

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the high must be really great.It's just it's a really compelling documentary.
We're going to talk more about themovie itself with Christian Toto coming up at
twelve thirty and then excuse me,no Christians at one. At twelve thirty,
we're going to talk to Rich Guggenheimbecause he is part of the group.
And it's not just Rich, it'sseveral different organizations that got together to

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run two ballot initiatives in the stateof Colorado. One would protect girls sports
from natal boys being able to playin their sports. So this means trans
girls would be excluded from girls sportsafter puberty. Children's sports are different.
Children's sports can be co ed andthey are designed to be co ed,

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but unless they are designed to beco ed, they will not be co
ed. And I think this isreally important because the notion that somehow it
is fair for a buyo logical boywho has gone through puberty to compete against
girls is simply it just flies inthe face of reason and logic and I
just cannot support it. And thesecond one, the second bill, we

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should not need. But the secondbill is a bill that would require schools
to report to the parents within fortyeight hours if a child presents with some
kind of gender dysphoria or gender incongruence. Okay, we should not need
this. We should be we shouldbe recognizing that parents are going to be

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the ones that have to be involvedin supporting kids through this. I have
another study on the blog today thatshows that people who receive gender affirming surgery
are twelve point twelve No, Iwant to make sure I get this right.
They have a twelve point twelvefold highersuicide attempt risk. So what's been

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used on parents for years now?If their children present with some kind of
gender dysphoria or gender incongruence, theyare told by doctors, would you rather
have a live son or a deaddaughter? Would you rather have a dead
daughter or a live sign, ora dead son or a live daughter.
What do you want to do here? And that is how they have emotionally

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blackmailed parents who want nothing better thanfor their child to be happy. Right,
isn't that what we want as parents? You want your child to be
happy. And when you see yourchild struggling and someone says, here's the
solution, and if you don't dothis, your kid's gonna kill themselves,
it's just that it's that blatant.And now this new study has shown that

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the notion that somehow gender affirming careis the way to avoid suicidal ideation and
suicide attempts is actually the exact opposite. So there you go. Oh wow,
Hey, Mandy Jaden was my stepdaughterwhen I was married to Katie.
I still remember that morning when Katiecalled me letting me know what happened to

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Jaden. Still teer up to thisday thinking about what happened to her.
Jadan is one of the young womenwho was poisoned by fentanyl. And these
are not people out there looking,you know, to sit on the street
and smoke fentanyl. And we're talkingabout kids who can't sleep or are stressed
out and they take what they thinkis ax annex from somebody else and then
they die. There's no room formistake here. None. Mandy says this

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Texter. I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs, but I have
a very libertarian view on drug use. However, that belief does not extend
to fentanyl, since it is inreality more of a chemical warfare agent than
a recreational drug. That is afantastic way to put it text. We
are at war with the cartels,only we're not fighting them. And I

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know that the war on drugs hasbeen an epic failure. Like I get
it, I know the statistics.I'm a small el libertarian myself, and
I've made those arguments that the onlyway to truly battle this is legalization,
and you know, making sure thatpeople are getting the right dose is I
don't have the answers anymore. Ijust don't. We've seen what's happened in

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Portland, We've seen what's happened herein Colorado, and you know, we
fail on one side of it spectacularly. We fail on the treatment side spectacularly.
While while we liberalize drug laws,we still can't normalize what's happening,
which is addicts who have no visiblemeans of support living on the streets,

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publicly smoking meth or smoking fentanyl onthe light rail like, none of that
stuff can occur because if you area libertarian and your leadings, you know
that someone else's right to destroy theirown lives stops when they start destroying mine.
And that's where we are. There'sno balance here, there's no sense
of responsibility from the atticts who areout of their minds and basically leeching off

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every one to survive and feed theiraddiction. So yeah, libertarians, I
you know this is there are certainthings in my life that I have continued
to struggle with philosophically for a verylong time. I waffled on the death
penalty, and here is the onlyway I can before the death penalty,

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if there is absolutely no no chancethat that person is innocent, meaning and
I'm gonna use the Aurora theater shooteras an example, there is no chance
that that guy didn't do that crimeand murder all of those people. And
in that case, if the jurysays we're gonna kill him, so be

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it. We don't have to dealwith him anymore. But there are cases
where people have been exonerated only theywere dead, so it didn't matter that
they were exonerating. You can't goback and undo that you can't unring that
bell, and cases where you're relyingon witness testimony, those are super shady

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to me. But the legalization ofdrugs has been one of those things where
my opinion has definitely shifted, becausein order to have any kind of legalized
drugs, you have to enforce therules of society for the rest of us.
You cannot just create an environment wheredrug addicts have all their needs met

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while destroying the community for the restof us. That is unacceptable. If
people want to be addicts inside theirown homes, if they want to sit
around and smoke fentanel all day insidetheir homes, more power to you.
But you better be able to payyour own bills and feed yourself and pay
for your own drugs. If youcan't do those things, sorry about your
luck. You need to get offdrugs. But that's not what we did

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here. It's absolutely shameful what we'vedone to the city of Denver, to
the state of Colorado in our effortto make addiction easier and less, you
know, difficult for those who arecurrently engaged in their addiction. Mandy,
do you recommend this to an elevenyear old? It would really depend on

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the eleven year old. There's nogore, there's no you know, there's
nothing aside from a handful of badwords. But the subject matter talks about
people dying from these drugs, andit shows these people who have died from
their drugs. Now, if you'vegot a mature eleven year old, I
would say, yeah, go forit, Just go for it. It's

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that important. And when I left, I told my daughter and her friend,
I said, look, I wantedyou to see this movie because it's
not enough for you too to neverdo these drugs, to never take a
pill from someone else. I needyou to be the advocate for your friends.
I need you to tell your friendsthat it's not safe to ever take
a pill from somebody else, evenif they tell you it's a xanax,

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because they don't know. We justhad a store where two women go to
Mexico. They go to a Mexicanpharmacy, okay, an actual pharmacy,
and they bought what they thought wasxanax. They came back, they gave
it to their buddy who wanted thexanax from the Mexican pharmacy. He died
of a central poisoning. I mean, man you guys, it's everywhere.

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It's just really, really scary.This person said, I used to take
many drugs recreational when I was younger, But that was a time where you
could actually trust your drug dealer.You can't today. It's sad, you
know, it's kind of funny,But I dabbled in my in my lost
decade in my twenties, in variousthings here and there. There'll be no
follow up questions, But you're right. You didn't have to worry about your

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your you know, your party dealersselling you something that was going to kill
you. You just didn't. Youjust didn't. This person said, Amen,
Mandy, My wife recently took thelightrail and was almost assaulted from the
drug dealers who needed monny drug userswho needed money for obvious reasons. Random
stranger stood by her side, andthat's the only reason she wasn't assaulted.

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Why won't our city leadership do anythingabout this? Yep, Mandy, if
you had to choose, would yourather have your child happy or resilient?
Oh, resilient one hundred percent ofthe time, because I think when you
are resilient, it's a lot easierto be happy, a lot easier to
be happy. The war on drugswill fail, says this texter, because

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if there's a demand, someone willmake it to make money. Until you
get rid of the demand, youcannot ever win a war on drugs,
not any real solution. Unfortunately,all you can do is mitigate. And
I think you're right, Texter,which is why I have this ridiculous,
nuanced shifting position on what we doabout drug abuse. What we do about

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drug use, what we've done isallow the perception to grow in Denver that
it is okay to sit outside sevento eleven and smoke Sentinel or Mes off
of a piece of foil with alittle pipe, where it's one hundred percent
obvious what you're doing and nobody stopsyou. That we've normalized that until we

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fix that, That for me isthe starting point. You make public drug
use absolutely against the rules, andanybody who does it is gonna face arrest,
and if they, if they,you know, agree to go to
drug treatment, then that arrest canbe expunged. I love it when people
say, you know what, youcan't arrest your way out of this.
Well, what's your solution, dumbass? What is it? Because I've now

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talk to enough people who have recoveredfrom addiction because they were justice involved,
because a judge said to them,if you don't stay clean for the next
two years, you're going to jailfor fifteen. It was a powerful motivator
for many, many people, andagain it's it's not a powerful enough motivator
for everyone. Some people are gonnadie drug addicts. There's just no way

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around it. I hope that's notyour family member, someone you love,
someone you care about. But somepeople are gonna die of drug overdoses because
they never get clean. They neverfully get clean. To the person,
looks like time to make my ownDIY cocaine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you guys are killing me with yourback in our day stories. Now,

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this texter says, back in ourday, we only had to worry
if it was cut with too muchbaking soda. Not gonna kill you.
Yeah yeah, this person said,I would suggest parents watch it first,
then depending on your perspective, becausewe all know our kids' best, you
can have your kids watch it absolutely, And because it's free and I've embedded

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it on the blog today, youcan do that as well. So we're
gonna talk to Christian Toto about thiswhen we get back, keep it right
here on KOA frothy story in theDenver Gazette and Colorado Politics today about two
ballot initiatives that Rich and so manyother people are working on. And one

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of those ballad initiatives would prohibit biologicalmales from competing in girls' sports at the
K through twelve level unless they areco ed sports, and I want to
make sure that we make that distinction. The second petition is one that I
genuinely am gobsmack that we even need, because it simply requires schools to notify

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parents when their child expresses gender incongruents. Now, the reason this is needed
is because there are school districts whoseofficial policy is to keep parents in the
dark. And joining me now,Rich Googenheim, to talk about both of
these things, Rich, where's yourdark money group behind you? I don't
see them. I say that becausetoday in the article by Marian Goodland,

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they spoke to some of the oppositionto these very sensible balid initiatives, and
the they basically were like, wedon't know who's financially backing these people,
because paying people to gather signatures isexpensive, but it's often the only reliable
way to get a measure on theballot. And uh, Bruce Parker of

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out Boulder County said, if youhear that this is about protecting kids,
you're being lied to. Well,and I find that ridiculous. It is
ridiculous. And Bruce and Mary Anne, if any of you or even those
of you folks at one Colorado whoclaim that you represent the LGBT IQA plus
two spirit whatever, my email addressis Colorado at gayzeagainst Creamers dot com.

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If you actually care about journalistic integrity, you will email me and you will
actually print a balanced story. Well, I don't care about journalists integrity,
so I'm just gonna have you onthe show. Well, I obviously neither
do they let me also just say, al Boulder County and one caller do
not speak for the LGBT IQA pluscommunity. In fact, the only thing

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that they care about is erasing sexand sex based rights and undermining the rights
of gay and lesbian people with allof this trans queer ideology that they're trying
to throw out there, and groomingchildren. Let's talk about your backers,
and I jokingly say, you're darkmoney backers. Where are they? You
are? Right? Now, Ijust want to give you a vision of

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Rich here in the studio. He'sgot on his shirt that says save Girls'
Sports. He's got on a stickerthat says volunteer coordinator or volunteer circulator,
and he's got petitions right here.Who is who did you pay to get
signatures for these petitions? Nobody?It's all volunteers. So how many volunteers
do you have right now? Wehave quite a few all over the state.

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Just to be perfectly honest with you, a lot of it has been
me and people like Aaron and peoplelike Linda White, who is also my
co opponent on this ballot initiative,and Lori Gimmelstein. We have been working
with those Protect Kids Colorado organization andwe're getting volunteers. We have women who

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are moms, who are athletes themselves, we have grandparents. This is a
citizen's initiative, just like it shouldbe fully sponsored by people. And if
an individual grassroots want to help payfor some of this stuff, they can
donate. But most of this isall volunteer people in the community who say,

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you know what, we need toprotect our children and we need to
protect girls and these organizations like outBoulder County are gas lighting people. Yes,
they are into believing that we haveto protect trans rights. Yes,
these men, these AGPs do notshould not have rights at the expense of

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women and children. AGP auto Gynophilia'soh okay, what is you just threw
that out me. I don't knowwhat that is? What is that?
That's a man who like to dressup as a women and gets his jellies
off. Well, okay, sothere's a sexual arousal component there. Yeah,
that is what Leah Thomas has beencredibly accused of. Well, and
it's the same thing if you readabout the Kapa Kappa Gamma girls. Yeah,

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these men are posers. These menare failed athletes, and there's a
biological advantage that these men have againstgirls in sports. This is what I
always wonder Rich. It's like,I mean, I couldn't imagine being a
person who would revel in beating someonethat I was physically. It's like if

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I was going to go, youknow, go to play Jeopardy against twelve
year olds. They're cheaters, That'swhat I think. And it's just kind
of sad and pathetic. I actuallyhave a lot of sympathy for whatever mental
thing they have going on there thatwants to beat up their little brother's best
friend. You know what I mean, They want to beat up on somebody
that doesn't have a fighting chance.Well, and you know what, It's

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not just about the athletic opportunities thatare being the night here. This is
about women's sense of space and belonging. This is about opportunities for scholarships because
a lot of these girls in juniorhigh and high school are competing for scholarships
to go to a college, rightso those are being forfeited to men.
I'm not going to call a dudea woman. We already established that at

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the legislative session. These are aboutlost opportunities, academically, lost opportunities in
the career field. This is aboutspace that is safe in the locker room.
It goes into the prisons, itgoes into the sororities. This is
about denying women opportunities that women havefought for a long time to have the

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right to work, the right toequal pay. And let me just say
this, if we're going to talkabout the gender pay gap, then we
need to start having a serious conversationabout the fact that men, no matter
how many dresses they wear. Arenot women? Women deserve these opportunities for
equity and pay and equality in theworkplace and the right to have maternity leave,

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because no matter how you say it, men are not birthing people.
Sorry Scott, Yeah, that birthingpeople think chat my hide. That one
was a bridge too far for me. So the second, the second initiative
is it is so simple that I'mgenuinely stunned that we're even having a conversation
about it. Can I stun youagain? Oh? God? Please?

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Do you know who's fighting against us? Know who? The Colorado PTAH shut
on Fritz at the Colorado PTA andthey have already fundraised over one hundred thousand
dollars to try and stop this initiative, to further insert themselves between parents and
their children, to continue the practicethat is widespread in school districts all over
Colorado, which is if a childcomes and says, oh, I want

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to use the pronouns of the oppositesex, the school district's policy is to
not tell parents, to assume thatparents will be abusive, horrible people,
and not support their children. InColorado, they are also sponsoring and supporting
the bills that went through the legislaturethat will make it so that teachers have
to affirm a child's identity and thatteachers have to give them the psycho the

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social emotional support that they need.And now under the Reproductive Bill of Rights,
if you're over twelve, you canget the medical treatment without your parental
knowledge or consent. Oh my god, ah ah. This to me is
parents and and adults forcing their ideologyand belief system onto children that we're now

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beginning to see more and more scientificstudies. The CAST review is critical in
understanding that a vast majority of thesechildren grow out of this. They either
turn into gay kids or they growout of it and become more comfortable with
their own gender. Well, andthat to me is exactly what this boils
down to. And this is whyI say the trans queer agenda is homophobic,

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because we know from the science thatthe ninety seven and a half percent
of the children who are socially transitioned, we'll eventually go on to medically transitioning.
That's what we're doing in Colorado schoolsright now. Whereas if these children
are allowed to just go about theirlife, eighty percent of them will grow
out of it and reconcile with theirnatal sex. This is a form of

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gay and lesbian conversion therapy. Thisis a form of gay erasure. And
that's why I, as a gayman, have a problem. But more
importantly, beyond that, we aredepriving these children of their opportunity to leave
healthy, fulfilling lives because we sterilizethem, we mutilate them. They cannot
reproduce, They're left sterile. Theycan't even enjoy sex in a lot of

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these cases as adults because of thedamage that's been done to their body.
And it's wrong. I agree,Rich Guggenheim. How can people get petitions?
And where do you need petitions gathered? Are there parts of the state,
because our signal goes all over theplace? Are there parts of the
state that you need volunteers to standoutside their grocery stores and collect signatures?

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And I know you go all overthe place because as I'm traveling and I
could hear you all the way downin Alamosa. Nice, So I will
be down in Alamosa on Wednesday tonight, I will be in Holyoake and Haxton.
So we need people up in northeastColorado. If you're in welld County,
if you're in Morgan County, ifyou're in Logan County, and those
out on the eastern Plains, contactus because we need the people to seculate

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the petitions out there. On Friday, I'm going to be in Pueblo,
so we also need more people outon the southeastern corner of the state and
Pueblo and east. If you areinterested in being a petition carrier, you
can go to protect Kids Colorado dotorg. Again, it's protect Kids Colorado
dot org and you can sign upto be a petition carrier. And the
places where we have found them arechurches. We are going out to the

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community events at summertime. There's lotsof sports, there's lots of festivals,
there's Memorial Day, there's parades andcommunity things coming up all summer long.
This is happening and we are downto like steven days to collect these petition
signatures, and we got to gettwo hundred thousand of them. So also,
if you're here along the Front Rangeand you're going to be in Denver
and you are interested in helping us, we're looking for volunteers to help us

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stand outside of ball Arena and Coresfieldduring the supporting events. Yep. These
places are large gatherings of people,and we need to have people who will
show up with their petitions to getpeople to sign them, because at the
end of the day, this isabout protecting women in our community and protecting
children in our community. And ifyou're a dad, if you're a father,
if you're a husband, I'm askingspecifically for you to get involved in

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this because your wife, your mother, your granddaughters, they're the people that
we are trying to protect. RichGoogenheim with gays against groomers. I appreciate
you. I appreciate that you aretaking so much of your own personal time
without the dark money behind you,and I would urge the media to reach
out directly to you. It's veryeasy, and I put a link to

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protect Kids Colorado dot org on theblog today, so if you're driving and
you can't remember that, you canjust go to the blog and check it
out. Rich. It's good tosee you and thank you for all you're
doing, my friend. You allright, we'll be right back. Petitions.
You can go to protect Colorado Kidsdot org and find out where they're

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going to be signing petitions, oryou can become a petition gatherer for your
own group of people. That wouldbe fantastic because we've got to get as
many of these signed as humanly possible, because they don't have dark money back
in them to get these petitions signed. And the opposition is already gearing up
to paint this organization as some kindof anti gay, anti trans organization,

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when this is pro parent, prochild. This is what this is.
It is pro girl and pro parent. So there you go on that one.
Now, I've got a lot ofstuff on the blog today, but
I want to mention this very veryquickly. The President of Iran appears to
have been made a small spot onthe side of a mountain, as I

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heard Ross say earlier today, whichis a great way to put it,
as the helicopter that he and severalother members of his administration were flying in
crashed into the mountains. I couldlie and tell you I was sad,
but I am not. That beingsaid, I have zero confidence that someone
better is going to take over aspresident of Iran. You know, it's

(31:23):
like, oh okay, yeah,let's replace them. Well, you know,
if you think the replacement's going tobe any better, you are sadly
mistaken. Because ultimately Iran is runby the Mullahs. It's not run by
the president. It's run by theIslamic Mullahs who make all of the decisions
and then the president merely executes thosedecisions and any people who get in the

(31:44):
way. So it would be niceif some kind of reformer was made president
of Iran. I just don't thinkit's going to happen. I remember when
a Monadajad, no wait, aMonadajad who was the dinner jacket guy on
bear with me. I think itwas a Mono dejade, president of Monajad.
His first name was something like soundedlike a dinner jacket, That's how

(32:06):
I remembered it. But he wassupposed to be the quote reformer president,
and he turned out to suck justas bad as the rest of him.
So there we go. By theway one more time, I will give
that address out for you. Thataddress is protect Kids Colorado dot org.
Protect Kids Colorado dot org. Youcan find out all the information there.

(32:30):
So but as for Iran, youknow, nothing's going to stop them from
fomenting violence. And I read anarticle yesterday and then I could not find
it again. It was one ofthose where you know, if you're scrolling
through the news on your phone,and then I clicked on one of those
stories, and then I saw aheadline at the bottom, and then I
clicked on another story, and thenof course I have no idea how I

(32:51):
got there or how to get backthere. But it was a story about
the alignment happening in the world.And if you missed it in the democrat
a Republic of Congo, which ishonestly a pit. The Democratic Republic of
Congo is I would not go thereif my life depended on it, because
it is so corrupt and so terrible, And a Congolese American just went back

(33:17):
with a small ragtag group of misfitsto uh to spark a coup, right,
they were going to take over theCongo and it failed. Obviously it
failed, or would be having adifferent conversation, But the leadership of the
Democratic Republic of Congo came out tocondemn the United States, even though it
wasn't our military. It was justa bunch of guys that went down there

(33:38):
to try and overthrow the government ofCongo. You got to have some pretty
big stones to think, you knowwhat, you know what, we should
do. We should just go downto Congo and just take that thing over.
We only need like fifty people.It's gonna be It's gonna be awesome,
dude, That's what they did.But now the Republic of Congo has
come out against the United States.Of course, Iran and Russia are aligned.

(34:00):
Of Ron and Russia and China arealigned, so it's it's like us
against who else. But at thispoint, would you want to be our
ally because I don't think I wouldbe. I just we're not good to
our allies. We'll talk more aboutthat later when we get back. Christian

(34:20):
Toto joins me talking about Devastated,what the quality of the documentary because he
is a film critic, and whywe think everybody should see it. That's
coming up next and joining me nowis a very familiar voice to my radio
audience as he manages to appear onas many talk shows as he can,
and I admire him for that.His name is Christian Toto and he has

(34:42):
not only a fantastic website called Hollywoodin Toto that has movie reviews and entertainment
news and great columns on entertainment,film and all that stuff from a right
leaning perspective, as well as analso outstanding podcast on the Heart media platform.
You, of course, can hearit live on the Free iHeartRadio app,

(35:05):
just as you can hear this interviewafter the show today with Christian Toto
on the Free iHeartRadio app as well. Christian, welcome back, my friend.
Thank you for having me back.I appreciate it. So I saw
Stephan Tubb's new documentary Devastated about theFentanel crisis in Colorado this past weekend.
And I know Stephan is my friend, right, so you know what,

(35:28):
it's your friend. You want tothink it's going to be awesome, and
he's done some really fantastic documentaries,but this is by far his best,
I think, And i'd love yourcritics viewpoint of this documentary. Yeah,
it's very good. Listen. Thesubject matter couldn't be more explosive, couldn't
be more important, So that's inhis favor. But I think what he

(35:50):
does to the best of his abilityis you know, he is an openly
right of center soul, but he'sreally trying to keep politics out of the
frame and he mostly succeeds, butyou know, when it does slip in,
it deserves to be included as well. I mean, the first person
testimonies are heartbreaking. The stats speakfor themselves. It's a beautifully produced film.
You know, you can do somuch now as a filmmaker without breaking

(36:15):
the bang. So I see alot of documentaries made outside the Hollywood system.
They just look good, and thisfilm looks good. It's it's a
warning cry. And I've been talkingto my kids, gosh, three or
four times in the last two weeksabout the subject. It just scares me.
My kids are teenagers, they arethey are the prime target for Oh,
here's an aspirin from a buddy,here's a tablet that could be like,

(36:38):
you know, for your health.You just never know what you could
to take into your body, andone little thing will kill you. And
it's it's couldn't be more frightening.Did you watch the movie with your kids?
I did not. God love myboys. They don't watch any movies
with their dad. I have tobeg borrow and plead for them to just
sit down with me. So I'vebeen talking to them about it with them

(37:00):
at length so and I will continueto do so, but I wish they
would watch it. I mentioned thisbefore the at the beginning of the show.
I saw it with my daughter andher fifteen year old friend, and
when we left, her fifteen yearold friend said, thank you so much
for bringing this bringing this to mebecause I had heard a fentanel, but
now I'm armed with information, andI thought, oh, that is what

(37:21):
this movie needs to do. Andto your point, Christian is like I
think thinking that, you know,my kids would never do anything like this.
My kids would never do something sostupid. My kids would never take
illegal drugs. But the reality isis that as your children start to move
away from you and they are insituations where someone says, you know what,
just take half this pill. It'sno big deal. It's like,

(37:43):
you know, it's it'll just mellowyou out. It's just those situations.
Kids make bad choices. It's partof being a kid, right, But
my bad choices and your bad choices, Christian, didn't potentially kill us.
And that's the difference. Yeah,Listen, the smartest, the smartest teenager

(38:04):
can have a dumb moment. Imean the smartest adult can do the same.
But for all the reasons you justmentioned. It's peer pressure. It's
just this one time. But theconsequences are just so profound, and that's
what the film really hammers home.I mean, just you know, Stepan
uses a lot of home video footageand you could say it's manipulative. No,
that's exactly what you need to tellthe story. And of course this

(38:25):
is a Colorado based story, butit's all across the country. I mean,
the Colorado focus is important, butI think any person from any state
can listen to this, watch thisand be horrified by it. And Christian
you know more about distribution and youknow methods than I do. But it
is highly unusual for the maker ofa documentary to turn around and put it

(38:45):
on the internet for free instantly afterits premiere. That's very unusual. You
know, it is unusual, butI feel like it's happened a time or
two. In recent months. There'sa spectacular documentary called The Fall of Minneapolis,
which I could not recommend any hireabout George Floyd in the Aftermath,

(39:06):
and I believe that one may beavailable for free as well. Also Screams
Before Silence about October seventh, thefirst person accounts of the survivors, that
is available for free as well.So I think some filmmakers understand that the
work they're doing is so important andso profound, and that sounds egotistical,
but it's not. It needs tobe out there. Any barrier to seeing

(39:27):
these projects needs to be erased.And the one thing I really want to
talk to Stefan about I don't knowyet is this getting media. I mean,
I know you were talking about it, but like in Denver Post and
for Gazette other news outlets, arethey covering the story this film, because
I've seen a lot of these documentariesget completely ignored by the press, and
it's it's outrageous. That's a reallygood question and one that I can ask

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Stephan. The good news is isthat as of right now, it's been
on YouTube for four days. Ithas one hundred and three thousand view in
four days. That's pretty dang good. So if they're not covering it,
then they're missing an opportunity. AndI certainly hope that that. You know,
our newspapers are television stations, whatevertheir political leanings are, this doesn't

(40:15):
this crosses political lines. This isnot This is not a one party issue.
This is an issue that is goingto have to be addressed by everyone.
And the one thing I would sayabout the politics in this film.
Stefan and he and I have talkedabout this off the air, so I'm
not, you know, spilling anysecrets. He tried so hard to get

(40:38):
participation and buy in from everyone.He asked every influential leader and mover and
shaker. He asked everyone to bein this film. And when you see
it, you immediately notice that everybodyis pretty much from one party, and
it's not the Democratic Party. Yeah, you know, listen, it's not

(41:02):
a political film, but in away it is a political issue because we
do have an open border and wedo have one party rule essentially in Colorado.
So there's that. I want tomention this movie just one more time
because I think it's important. Themovie Screams Before Silence is available for free
online, and as of two weeksago, there were only three reviews of

(41:22):
it that I could find through avigorous search. I was one of them.
This is a story that has significantimpact across the culture, across the
country, across the world. It'savailable for free, and the former CEO
I believe of Facebook, Sheryl Sandberg, is the driving force. Where are
the review? Oh? Yes,you know, I'm a film critic,
I'm busy, but if there's areview, there's a movie out there that's

(41:45):
so important that I could screen anytime of the day, doesn't interrupt my
schedule, you think you'd review it. But you know, when these things
don't get covered. A there's areason for it, and D there's a
story behind it, and that's whatI try to cover with my side as
well. Well. You know what, though, let's be real, I
mean, and we could bring JerrySeinfeld into this conversation because he's gotten a

(42:07):
ton of press over the last coupleof weeks, because a handful of students
walked out of a commencement address atDuke University because Jerry Seinfeld has committed the
worst crime ever, which is abeing Jewish and be supporting Israel and being
vocal about it. So, butit's been you were talking, we were

(42:29):
talking off the air question about someof the pundit class that is talking about
Jerry Seinfeld and what a problem he'sbecome. In my mind, the lack
of reviews for the Sheryl Sandberg movieyou're talking about the way that Seinfeld is
now being covered as problematic is inmy mind, it just feels anti Semitic.
It feels like the undercurrents of antisemitic is breaking the waves every once

(42:52):
in a while, just enough tosay, yeah, that Seinfeld guy,
he's a bit of a problem.Well, I think I think that could
be part of it, for sure. But part of the problem for Seinfeld
quote unquote is that he came outa week or two ago and said that
the extreme left that's his words,not mine, has been a hurting comedy

(43:14):
in general, and that opened thefloodgates where all of a sudden you had
CNN saying they're uncomfortable with Jerry Seinfeld. I think it was Slater Salon,
It might have been Sate saying what'sthe deal with Jerry Seinfeld, kind of
riffing on his usual shtick, andall of a sudden, you know,
the golden boy, the guy whogets all the great and glowing coverage that's
going to wrap up soon. Andthat was even before he said anything about

(43:37):
Israel. So yeah, that's wherewe are in the culture. And you
know, a Robert de Niro canbe as outrageous and silly and crazy and
anti Trump as possible, but youdon't see anythink pieces from big media outlets
saying, what's the deal with Robertde Niro? Why wouldn't he shut up?
He doesn't seem really well informed,does he? You don't get that.
So it's so fascinating to see howthe mainstream media their favorites and attacks

(44:00):
people if they say the wrong things. Of course I'm using that and the
scare quotes is possible. But youknow what, though, here's the thing
from my perspective, Christian, I'mso grateful that Jerry Seinfeld has few money
and he can come out and saythis stuff because he doesn't need their money,
right, he doesn't need it.Jerry Seinfeld is loaded for a life,

(44:22):
like he never has to work again, and he's a gazillionaire. So
the fact that people like Jerry Seinfeld, jk Rowling who also has few money,
Elon Musk, who has a wholepile of fu money, like,
I want these people to come outand rub the fur the wrong way on
what's you know, the normal thinghere? So I've always been a Seinfeld

(44:43):
fan. One of my favorite memorieswas seeing Seinfeld in Vegas on New Year's
Eve one year when I was aflight attendant. It was just an absolute
blast. But this has cemented mylove for him in a way that it
was not cemented before, because he'scoming out and kind of kicking in the
door and saying what's wrong. Andif anybody should be able to say what's

(45:04):
wrong, it should be a comedian, right. I mean, they're they're
they're the king, the court jesterthat is supposed to speak truth to power.
I want to pounce end or seeson your fu money because you're right
technically, but there are other peoplewith that same kind of money, and
they bowed, they bend the kneelike that. I'll mention two people.

(45:28):
Scarlett Johansson, she briefly agreed toplay a trans character and then there was
a there was an outrage social mediawave and she completely turned the roll down.
The movie was never made, andshe did the hostage apology tour.
But also to me much sadder asStephen King, who I think I think
he's doing okay financially. I thinkhe sold a couple of books that were

(45:50):
horror adjacent, and he came outone day and said, you know,
when it comes to movies and judgingthem, you should go based on the
talent, not the diversity. Andhe was spanked by the far left,
and he immediately backpeddled, and thenhe actually put out an op ed in
The Washington Post apologizing essentially, sonot everyone with that brand of money does
the right thing. I'm glad thatsome do. Though specifically it was Scarlett

(46:14):
Johansson. I'm just gonna guess here, because she's married to collegiost right,
we know what he does on SaturdayNight Live. I'm gonna guess she's a
true believer for the cause. Soit's, you know, like JK Rowling
and Jerry Seinfeld, they are Ithink they are. I'm gonna put him
in the Bill Maher category of liberalright. Bill Maher has been blowing the

(46:34):
doors off on his show, hisshow. I've always dabbled in Bill Maher's
shows because there's always great clips andsound bites. I am now watching full
episodes of Bill Maher's show, notbecause I agree with everything that he says,
but because he's knocking over sacred cal'sleft and right from his team right.
I mean, that's really the bestyou can hope for. And with
Stephen King, he's always been aleft wing wacko, Like always been a

(46:59):
left wing wack of course, heapologized for saying the true thing that everybody
knows. But you know, I'ma I am heartened that you now have
the billionaire class that is now startingto stand up and say this is not
okay. You know, this isnot okay. So we'll see, you
know that, Jerry Seinfeld, We'llsee if it puts a dent in his
in his bottom line. I'm guessingit. I'm guessing it won't. I

(47:23):
think he'll be fine. But isn'ta shame that we're talking about millionaires,
if not billionaires, having the courageto say basic things that are true.
Isn't that sad? Because you know, the rest of us we get canceled,
We have to worry about paying therent or the mortgage. You know,
it's a real thing. It's areal thing that's going on in the
culture right now, and shame onthose who are not who have the fortitude

(47:45):
and the financial resources who don't speakout, Shame on them. Let me
ask you about Kevin Spacey on thatnote, because now there is a big
push in Hollywood to uncancel Kevin Spacey. Okay, because based on what he
did. Have you seen Kevin Spaceyunmasked? Have you seen that yet,
No, I haven't. I'm sureit's unflattering. Well it's not. Actually,

(48:07):
apparently it's changed a lot of people'sminds because when they lay out the
nature of the accusations, they're icky, but not like not like Harvey Weinstein,
kind of ikey, you know whatI mean. But I'm thinking to
myself, now there's this big pushfrom Hollywood to uncancel Kevin Spacey, who
I have loved his work for along time. But the first thing I
thought it was the people you justmentioned. The person who puts a dumb

(48:29):
joke on Twitter and ends up being, you know, getting their fifteen seconds
of infamy that they never wanted,who then lost their job and they can't
get another one because now they're onthe internet. We've got to do something
about cancel culture overall. So ifHollywood wants to stop that, I'm here
for it. Yeah, I agree. You know, Roseanne Barr sent out

(48:50):
one ugly racially charged tweet and hercareer was literally wiped out. Her show
was wiped out, her character waskilled off. You know what. You
know what she did when she workedon Roseanne, She actually actively recruited minority
writers on the show, which ismore important one really awful tweet or a
superstar who recruits people to make theshow more diverse. But you know,

(49:13):
she lost that argument, and nowshe's had basically a resurrector career on the
outskirts, working with the Daily Wire. Good for them, good for her.
But it's just it's insane. Andthen some actors do terrible things.
You know, Alec Baldwin can walkin front of a camera tomorrow and get
a gig, and what he didon the set, you know, I
know there's lots of you know,did he do it on purpose? What
was the deal? Was he responsible? But he killed a person and even

(49:36):
before that, he was saying homophobicslurs, he was saying gay slurs.
He was doing all these different thingsthat were really tangibly terrible, and he's
never suffered any consequence for it.It's all nonsense. It's all a lie.
It's all about power. And youknow, you can tell a story
about a hitman with a heart ofgold, but guy, golly, if
you do something that's a little bitcomedically inappropriate, you're out. Yeah,

(49:58):
And that's how crazy this is.I speaking of people, you know,
losing their jobs, I find thiswhole thing around the Kansas City Kickers speech.
And I don't know if you watchedol Of Harrison, Butker's speech.
I watched the whole speech. Christian, I agree with him. I mean,
I'm a working mom with a stayat home husband, right okay,
so I am. I am thefeminist ideal right now. And I watched

(50:22):
that. I'm like, I agreewith this guy. But that's not enough
for you know, the angry mobin America. They have to make sure
he never kicks again or any ofthat stuff. When did we go from
rooting for a comeback to rooting forsomeone's absolute destruction? Like, when did
that happen? I think rooting forsomeone's destruction just feels good. I think

(50:45):
there's a dopamine rush attached to it. You feel noble, like if it
feels like you've actually done something profound. You've done nothing profound, You've done
something cruel and evil. But there'ssomething about that sensation that is powerful.
Listen, it's magnified by the media. Certain boy are cheered, certain voices
are jeered. It's just the wayit works. And often the people who

(51:05):
are wanting to cancel him or attackhim. It's a very, very small
group of people, or it's peoplewho haven't really heard what he said.
Yeah, I've just heard maybe amanipulation of what he said. And by
the way, the last time Ichecked the NFL is chocolate block with people
who have done some pretty nasty thingsand who get away with a lot.
You know, again, is ita speech or is it actions? What

(51:29):
are we going to judge? Howare we going to cancel people? Not
only that, I would think basedon the income levels and things of that
nature. Unless you're a brand newplayer trying to make the team, they're
probably more than a fair share ofstay at home moms in the NFL.
I mean, I think that categorymight be overrepresented. But if you watch
the whole speech, and I did, it's an outstanding speech. For the

(51:51):
upside of this is you've got tochange dot org petition trying to get him
fired. And currently his jersey isone of the top selling jerseys in the
NFL as of today, so youknow, you vote with your dollars there,
and Harrison Budker has made a lotof new fans there. Christian Toto
would love for you to be afan of his fantastic podcast, which you
can find on the iHeartMedia platform andother platforms as well that we don't talk

(52:15):
about. And he's also got agreat website if you're ever looking for a
movie review that you can trust.This is where I go to get my
movie reviews before I go to amovie. So you go to Hollywood and
Toto. Both of these things arelinked on the blog today. It is
good to see you, Christian,and hopefully we will see you again soon.
Grace. All right, that's ChristianToto and fascinating conversation. I mean,

(52:38):
it's, you know, the cancelculture stuff. And like I said
about Kevin Spacey, I love KevinSpacey. I love Kevin Spacey's movies.
I think it's there. He's justan incredible actor. But then when I
heard like all of these Hollywood celebritiesare like, it's time to uncancel Kevin
Spacey. What about the woman whoposts a tweet on one time and then

(53:00):
gets on an airplane and gets offthe airplane and our whole life is destroyed,
and now she can't get another jobbecause when you google her, what
do you think comes up? Imean, it's just it's horrifying what we
are willing to do to other peoplewho say things that we find remotely upsetting.
I'm floored sometimes that I've never beencanceled. I mean, there have
been people who've tried, trust me. Oh, there have been people who've

(53:23):
tried, diligently, tried for agood long while for a variety of things
that they perceived that I was doingwrong. But I think that being in
this position, especially on the radionumber one, I have an incredibly thick
skin. You might say, asthick as a rhinoceros. You might,

(53:43):
I mean, if you wanted tosay that. So it doesn't bother me,
it doesn't upset me, it doesn'thurt my feelings or cause me any
sort of strife for aggravation. Butfor normal people who don't have to deal
with life slings and arrows like that, this is a tragedy we have got
to get a hold of now.When we get back, I've got so
much stuff on the blog today,but I've got to talk about nine News,

(54:05):
and not for a bad reason,one of the most controversial topics we
have coming back next. It isalways remarkable to me the anger with which
people respond to the notion that theZipper merge is the proper merge. But
you don't have to take my wordfor it. No, you can take
the word of nine News. Now, you guys, I'm just gonna say

(54:25):
this to you. Well, I'msaying it to them too, because we
all know they listen. Now Iknow they listen because they did a whole
story on the zipper merge. Whenyou approach a lane that is closing,
merged just before the lane ends,If you do it sooner, you're being
courteous but slowing traffic. Let melet me just play this for you can

(54:46):
add by audio. Jeffle make surethere's no preroll. Hang on one second,
let's just turn it down for onesecond. Let me let me let
that roll through. We've got apre roll. Tell you when to turn
it up. And if you ona signing bonus, you can go look
there. Okay, here we go. Now bring it up. So,
there's something that I've been wanting tosay to you since this show went on

(55:06):
the air almost eight years ago.Would you please zip it? Already talking
about zipper merging for eight years,our team has talked about whether this is
the place to lead some kind ofa campaign in Colorado to help everybody adapt
the one right way to merge intraffic and with summer roadwork closing lanes left

(55:28):
and right, We've decided, youknow what, the moment is right to
zip it Colorado. Marshall zelch Now, I just want to take a moment
because all of you in this listeningaudience, you know who started this movement.
You know who didn't wait eight years. You know who is already making
this an issue on this radio station. You know who's actually using zipper zipper.

(55:49):
I actually drive by people going zipperwith my hands. Zipper zipper,
zipper zipper. So the fact thathe's trying to take credit for my idea,
whatever, I'll take it, though, I'll take it. He continues,
with Marshall zellingar, oh, you'rehere for our big campaign kickoff,
and Marshall, the research is indisputable. Zipper merging gets you where you want
to go faster. Transportation professor tellsme that it's forty percent faster through the

(56:16):
area. So we're all gonna geton board, starting by what you do
not do when you see the lanesclosing ahead. You do not think,
oh, I'm just gonna beat everybodyto it a while back and start changing
lanes. What we're gonna start doingtonight. We're gonna learn how to zip
it Colorado, and I'm gonna teachyou a gesture so that we don't forget.

(56:38):
Now, this degree is as easyas one, two, three.
One resist the urge to change lanesfar ahead of a lane. Yeah.
Two, Just like that school bus, drive until the lane closes. Three,
zip it Colorado. The failure,believe it or not, are kind
of courteous the prio. Many ofthe drivers along Spear approaching Waitwata just outside
Ballerina would not get a pass gradein merging based on what MSU Denver Transportation

(57:02):
Professor Steve Long saw today. Lookat all this capacity that is now missing.
This whole lane is empty, soall the traffic is backing up even
further a block, two blocks furtherdown this direction because we did not use
this lane. This is not howyou zipper. The hours trying to get

(57:24):
over too soon, backing up trafficin their lane and the next lane,
oh yeah, and leaving usable laneto waste. Yep, all that is
how you zipper. I got rightto the three end. Yeah. The
City of Denver is refreshing the thirdand final Spear bridge between Downtown and nine
twenty five. This one over thetrain tracks. Work on the other two
bridges was now I'm talking about sour. Sorry, I didn't mean to restart

(57:46):
that. I'm not gonna play therest because it's all visual. But you
guys, you guys, we've gotcan do it. We've got to learn
how to zipper. In the otherday, I zipped up in the lane
that was not being used by anybodyelse. I zipped up to the front
and you should have seen the peoplein the left hand lane. They were

(58:07):
like three and a half inches bumperto bumper apart, and I was just
like, zipper, we zipper,you go, I go, you go,
I go, and then somebody letme go. I was like,
I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm trying to do it the right
way. Good gravy, Thanks Mandy. I'm one of those natives that didn't
always zipper. Now I do,and it will make your life so much

(58:29):
better. It will make everybody's livesso much better. We will have half
the traffic backups because God knows,we are in construction season right now.
I live in Douglas County. Idon't think there is a road between my
house and the radio station that isnot under construction. I can't avoid it.
There's no way for me to getto work without hitting at least one

(58:49):
patch, if not two, ofsingle lane, and people are not paying
attention. So I just wanted youto know it's not just me. And
I also wanted to take credit forthis night news story because I started talking
about it first. Just throwing thatout there, Mandy. I understand the
need for traffic zippering with construction closinglanes, but there are jerks who with

(59:10):
permanent exit lanes who race up andforce their way into the exit lane,
crossing over a solid white line Itwenty five onto the sixth Avenue exit.
That is different. That is nota zipper. That is an illegal lane
change. Now you have to remember, though, this is something that living
in Florida, I am very goodat a lot of people have no idea

(59:34):
where they're going. Okay, soa lot of people driving down I twenty
five, they have no clue wheretheir exit is. They have no idea
that it's a single exit. They'renot. They're trying to figure out where
they're going. They're trying to listento their you know whatever it is,
their maps program, and they're tryingto get where they need to go,
and they're not where they need tobe. So try and have a little
grace on that because people don't knowwhere they're going. This person's SA blinker

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means speed up in Colorado and tailgatesso no one can get over. This
happened, happened to me today.So I'm on twenty five coming north.
I gotta get over to Bellevue,and I start making my way over one
lane at a time safely with myblinker, and I get to one lane
away from where I need to be. There are five cars. I have
my blinker on. They speed upto where they're three inches from each other,

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and then but they didn't get outof the way fast enough, so
I have to slam on the brakesso I can go behind them and get
over. Thank you, all ofyou people on I twenty five near Bellevue,
you know who you are. Ihope you listen, and I hope
you feel bad right now because youdidn't let the lady with their blinker on
for like five minutes over Anyway,Mandy. People think they're being nice when

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they merge early, unknowingly being theproblem. Then no one wants to be
the all bite correct a hole goingto the front, I will be the
correct a hole. I don't care. I don't care if a string of
cars full of people I don't knowjudge me harshly. I really don't care.
Makes absolute you know. You know, if you heard my segment at
the end of last timement, wewas talking about doing this job. I

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don't care what people think about me. I don't care if they hate me.
I don't care if they flip meoff. I don't care if they
think I'm an a hole, becauseI know I'm doing the right thing.
And the more of us that startdoing this, it will become a natural
thing, and then all of thesebackups will end, these unnecessary backups.

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To be able to zipper, someonehas to be willing to yield. Lots
of drivers will not yield. Otherdrivers race up to the lane closure and
force their way through. Not safeat all. If everybody does it the
way it's supposed to work, wezipper right left, right, left,
right left. That's how it works. I have a question for you,
Just jeff in for a rod whenyou're getting on I twenty five or another

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road that has metered entrances, andyou are in a lane next to someone
else. Right, So you gottwo cars. When the light turns green,
are both cars supposed to go?Or is one car supposed to go?
I've always wondered that. I've alwaysthought it's two, but I have
thought maybe it is one. ThoughI always go. I do too,
and then I if I'm ahead ofthe car, whoever gets off the line

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a little faster, you then defer. If you are in the car behind,
You're like, okay, Bud,you're you're in front. But if
you're ahead, then they defer andthey come behind you. No, we're
not waiting a single car. That'sinsane. It's just dumb. We can
take too long to take. Whydo we have two lanes? You know
this person just sent my blinker isa statement, not a question. Oh,

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if you flash a gun, you'llhave the whole road to yourself.
But I, being a responsible concealedcarry permit holder, would not brandish my
weapon unless I was going to shootit. So there you go. You're
not the first, says this Texter. The great John Boy and Billy radio
show fame in Charlotte. Well inCharlotte, what in Charlotte? I wouldn't

(01:02:59):
live in North Carolina, text her, You're literally probably the only person other
than me who's even heard of JohnBoy and Billy. And I only heard
him because they were syndicated down theEast coast. Come on, please,
I think he's still around. Theysaid, you guys joined forces on this.
Well, if I'm in North Carolina, I'll have his back. One

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car per lane, okay, yeah, so two cars go at the same
time, right being, Yeah,you both go means, and if you
have you have good speed off theline, like if you're behind, if
you're next to a tesla, Tesla'shave amazing speed off line, really good
speed off the line. What abouta cyber truck? Oh my god,

(01:03:42):
did we already talk about how stupidthose are? Said, I told you
down four seventy. It was uly. My husband is named them the e
caminos, which I think is hilarious. I'm gonna use that all the time.
We'll be right back. You arerefusing to zipper because Kyle Clark thinks
it's a good idea. You guys, A broken clock is right twice day.
Sometimes a blind squirrel finds a nut. Okay, so maybe this is

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his moment he's right about this.He's absolutely right about this. The Common
Sense Institute. You guys, weare so lucky in Colorado to have organizations
like the Independence Institute and the CommonSense Institute. They do much different things.
There's some overlap in the Venn diagramof those two. But common Sense

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is more about studying the policies thatare being adopted in Colorado and telling us
what the outcome is. And theylooked at the twenty twenty four Colorado Legislative
session just to see how many waysthe Democratic legislature took our Tabor refunds and
O MG, as the kids usedto say, I've been told that's not

(01:04:49):
cool anymore. Whatever. Zoomer onehundred and one bills were passed or in
the twenty twenty four legislative session that, if signed in law, will reduce
projected taber refunds by a combined twopoint eight billion dollars of the six billion

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projected between fiscal twenty four and fiscaltwenty six. These bills proposed to reduce
the taber refund by a combined fivehundred and twenty three million in fiscal year
twenty four one point zh six billionin fiscal twenty five and one point twenty
five billion in fiscal year twenty six. The recent announcement that an additional sixty

(01:05:32):
seven million in taber refunds is oweddue to an accounting error is not reflected
by common Sensus study. The reductionof refunds over the next three years is
similar in size to the twenty threetaber refund Of the three point two eight
billion available, three point one wasdistributed as direct payments of eight hundred dollars

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to each Colorado taxpayer. The remainingone hundred and eighty million was diverted via
an expansion of the Earth Income TaxCredit. The two most impactful bills from
the twenty twenty four session will reducetable refunds by one point eight billion dollars
that's more than forty two percent.The rest of the bills would reduce refunds

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by a total of three hundred andninety one million that's nine percent over that
same period, and one bill,which is expected to be signed into law
shortly, proposes to change the tablerefund mechanism by lowering the state income tax
rate according to the level of excessstate revenue when it comes into effect.
Colorado's table refunds will be partially replacedby income tax reductions. That is the

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only acceptable use of our taber refunds. That's it is reducing the income tax,
because that is trading one tax foranother, and we should not have
any of this other crap past.So Democrats have greatly expanded the earned income
tax credit and created a refundable taxcredit for low income filers with children.

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Now you have to understand, lowincome filers already don't pay anything in income
taxes to speak of, because theydon't have any money. They don't have
any income, and they already,because they are at the bottom of the
tier, they pay very little.And now they're taking your taber refund to
give it to someone else. Somebodysaid, don't we need to vote on

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anything related to tabor on the textline, that is adorable. Unfortunately,
the way taber is written, itassumed a reasonable legislature because it says that
those tax funds must be refunded ina reasonable manner. To Democrats, taking
your money and giving it to someoneelse is reasonable, and if you don't

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like it, don't vote for Democrats. It's really not that difficult. This
to me, is a fantastic talkingpoint for anyone Republican running for the state
House or the state Senate. Thisshould be number one. The Democrats took
your table refund at the same timethey were making everything in this state more
expensive, more cumbersome, more difficult. Everything they did made everything worse.

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And that's what they'll continue to dountil we have an actual minority that can
stand up and stop some of thisnonsense, because right now the Republicans are
so outnumbered that they can't even dothat. Now, when we get back,
I don't know, I might havean abbreviated two minute drill. Ah
No, I got two minute drillinformation. I got enough. I got
some two minute drill stuff. Youguys. I put a really juvenile video

(01:08:39):
on the blog today and I'm gonnaplay it when I get back because it's
so juvenile. I mean, asI put it on the blog, I
was like, Mandy, really,this is what you're putting on the blog.
But I did, and I regretnothing. You'll have to listen to
hear it. Koa promoted this inthe last segment, but I am just
gonna play the most juvenile SoundBite thatI could find, and it came from

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the Great State of Minnesota, whereMinnesota State Senator Nathan Wisenberg, a Republican
from Little Falls, got up tomake a very important statement, and it
sounded like this, what are wetalking about. We're talking about the legalities
of eating beaver. That's just ridiculous. So I et beaver. It's fine.
No one's gonna get in trouble fordoing it. What are we talking?

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I mean, that's the kind ofpolitics we can all get behind.
I told you it was juvenile.Did you think I was lying? Mayor
Mike Johnston got ratioed on Twitter.Now, if you're not a Twitter or
X user, you may not knowwhat a ratio is, But a ratio
is when a tweet or a poston X gets far more replies than likes

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or shares. Well, Mayor Mikeput out a tweet talking about how Denver
is actually writing the book on welcomingnewcomers. He says, we've changed,
adapted, and found models that work, and now we've even open sourced those
strategies for use in other cities acrossthe country. Well, the Internet did
not agree, and the Internet wasnot kind. Many of the respondents took

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issue with the mayor's newcomer term.This Texter said, do not under any
circumstances except the euphemism newcomers. Thesemigrants are ninety nine percent of legal aliens
who should not be in the countryperiod. In the same country, they
would be deported immediately. Now alittle side note to this story that I
have on the blog. Gavin Newsome, the governor of California, must have

(01:10:30):
seen the mayor's tweets and trying tokeep up with the Johnston's. He's put
out a message that he believed thatCalifornia, which by the way, has
about one hundred and forty thousand homelesspeople in California. He says California has
cracked the code on homelessness and theirstrategy should be the one that are adopted

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nationwide. No word on how badthe ratio was on that it too.
Governor Jared Poulis did the He towedsome bills Friday night when you weren't supposed
to be paying attention. Lawmakers sentmore than five hundred bills to Polus's desk,
and he's still working through about threehundred. He has vetoed the following

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House Bill ten eight, which wouldhave made a general contractor liable for wage
claims that were allegedly owed by asubcontractor. It was a crappy bill.
It needed to be vetoed. Healso vetoed a bill that would have regulated
health insured practices regarding complex drugs administered. It's a complicated bill, but he
knows that it would create a supplyproblem, as drug companies would just stop

(01:11:36):
pulling those drugs out of the market. He also rejected another bill which was
designed to improve safety for young athletes. He said it conflicts with Senate Bill
one thirteen, which he said waspleased to pass. He also said this
bill presented unrealistic and counterproductive expectations.He also rejected a state law that would

(01:11:58):
where employers could not subject or threatento wait a minute, could not subject
or threaten an employee to discipline,discharge, or an adverse employment reaction on
account of an employee's refusal to attendor participate in an employer sponsored meetings.
He said it's too vague and hardto sing. He's got some more stuff.
You can check them out all online. He has not veto the biggest

(01:12:20):
bills though, the ones that arethe worst we'll see if he does that.
Now, you may have already heardthis today, But the International Criminal
Court has issued an arrest warrant forseveral people, one of them being Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin net and Yahoo.They have also put an arrest warrant for

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the leadership of Hamas, which Ithink is absolutely absurd. To equate Israel
defending themselves with what Hamas did isabsolutely insane. I would have far more
respect for the International Criminal Court,which I really don't have any respect for
at this point, if they hadjust said we're gonna indict Hamas, and
when all is said and none,we'll talk about what needs to happen with

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Israel's actions if they were inappropriate orviolations of war crimes. But the news
from Israel is so what they don'tsubscribe to. They are not members of
the International Criminal Court, So unlessBenjamin Net and Yahoo goes to a member
country, there's really a zero percentchance that he is going to face any

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kind of consequences or even be arrestedin this matter. Drill it too,
just so you know. It's abad idea to drink and drive, period,
But it's even worse idea to drinkand drive starting this summer. Summer
is when we have the most deadlycrashes involving alcohol and drug use. And
that's why the Colorado Department, theColorado State Patrol is cracking down on impaired

(01:13:51):
and reckless driving. This weekend.It is Memorial Day weekend, which kicks
off summer, and a lot ofpeople have barbecues and things of that nature,
so they are just reminding you keepyour speed down, stay off your
phone, never drive impaired, justplay it safe so you can make it
to the end of the summer.Seems perfectly reasonable to me. And finally,

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bargain shoppers unite because it's finally happeningnow if you haven't been following the
saga of Target, and they saythey haven't lost market share because of their
stance on you know, trans stuffand gay pride all, you know,
the the tuckable children's swimwear that theysold. But the reality is politically,

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they've made some really dumb missteps andtheir bottom line is hurt, and it
has been dramatically hurt. But Target'snot willing to see all of their business
to Walmart, which has seen ahuge uptick in business, especially from middle
class and upper class consumers. Aswe're all trying to save money. So
Target is bringing the wood. Theyare going to lower the prices on five

(01:14:57):
thousand popular items to go directly atWalmart as the low price leader. Now,
I never shopped at Target because they'recheaper. I shopped at Target because
it's nicer, cleaner, there waspeople there to help you if you needed
it. Well, they've started layingoff so many of their associates that work
there. It's now not nicer,so it may as well be cheaper.

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But if you're a bargain shopper,this is your chance to save big over
the weekend. Now that is yourtwo minute drill. When we get back,
I think we need to talk aboutthis because this story is actually super
interesting from the perspective of how stupidzoning laws can be. But even more,
it asks a very challenging question.Are tacos and burritos sandwiches? Cooper,

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what do you think tacos burritos sandwichesor not? No? Why not
their meat with some form of breadlike item. It's a taco, it's
wrapped in a tortilla or a burrito. You can't say you can't use it
as a definition in the definition.You can't say a taco is a taco.
That's an unsatisfactory definition. Well that'smy definition. I'm sticking with.

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Okay, Well, we'll find outwhat the other definition is when we get
back. Stay in the know everymorning with Colorado's Morning News five to nine
on KOA story is interesting both becauseit spurs the big conversation about what is
a sandwich? But in Indiana itwas so much more than that. It

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was a court case that touched offa firestorm, a firestorm, a media
attention, an online debate. Itwas a case because a developer named Martin
Quintana. He wanted to use theproperty he owned in Fort Wayne, Indiana
for commercial purposes. So we hadto go back to the zoning board and
get the Fort Wayne Plan Commission toup zone the area from allowing single family

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residential housing only to allowing some kindsof commercial uses. Well, the commission
was not exactly ready to just lethim willy nilly put anything there, but
in exchange for Quintana signing a writtencommitment under which only certain types of restaurants
would be allowed in the area.Now this local Nimby organization, they ask

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for restrictions. Specifically, the commitmentbars restaurants, including fast food style restaurants,
except for the following, and itsays this this is the actual language.
A sandwich bar style restaurant whose primarybusiness is to sell made to order
or subway style sandwiches, which bythe way of example, includes but is

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not limited to Subway or Jimmy Johns, but expressly excludes traditional fast food restaurants
such as McDonald's, Arby's, andWendy's, provided that such restaurants shall not
have outdoor seating or drives to service. So fast Forward Kintana recruits are new
tenant for his space, and ithappens to be a famous A famous taco

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establishment, a Mexican restaurant that servestacos and burritos. The plan commission said
the Famous Taco could be barred becausethese fewed options are not sandwiches. So
Quintana sued, and in Tier IndianaSuperior Court Judge Craig Bobe rejected that argument,

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concluding that burritos and tacos are infact sandwiches. Now listen to this
from the ruling, the proposed FamousTaco restaurant falls within the scope of the
general use approved in the written commitment. The proposed Famous Taco restaurant would serve
made to order tacos, burritos,and other Mexican style food, and would
not have outdoor seating, drive throughservice, or serve alcohol. The court

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agrees with Quintana that tacos and burritosare Mexican style sandwiches, and the original
written commitment does not restrict potential restaurantsto an only American cuisine style sandwich.
The original written commitment would have alsopermitted a restaurant that serves made to order
Greek, Euros, Indian non raps, or Vietnamese bond me if these restaurants

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complied with the other enumerated conditions.So what you have here is a zoning
issue that forced a judge who I'mguessing, I'm just going to say it.
I think he likes Mexican food.First of all, who doesn't like
Mexican food. We're so lucky herein Colorado that we have such great Mexican
food. You can get real Mexicanfood here, you can get text mex

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Mexican food here, you can getSouthwestern food here. You can get all
of that good stuff. And youdon't realize until you travel extensively how bad
Mexican food is some places. NewYork City has terrible Mexican food. It's
just terrible. In Europe, Mexicanfood doesn't even exist. One of the
things that we sent to my nephewin Israel as a care package was a

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bunch of stuff to make Mexican foodbecause they just don't have it in other
places. We're so lucky. Butyeah, you're wrong, couver. It
is a Mexican sandwich. Although Ibelieve that Mexican sandwiches are actually called tortoise,
so maybe they'll sol tortoise as well. I don't know. Now you
may not know, but there wasa controversial two thousand and six Massachusetts State

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Court decision which held that tacos,burritos, and casada do not fall within
the ordinary meaning of sandwich because thatterm normally refers to a food item encased
in two pieces of bread, whilethese Mexican foods usually only feature one,
but they have one that's folded overthe top. It's like if you have

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one piece of bread left, notthe heel, because nobody likes to eat
the heel, but you have onepiece of bread left and you want a
peanut butter sandwich. What do youdo? You put peanut butter on it,
then you fold it over? Isit less a sandwich because of that?
I say no, I do notthink so. So I agree with

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the judge in Indiana these are sandwiches. But what a stupid, stupid thing
to go to court about. Andwhat are these people in Indiana that don't
like Mexican food? Don't shop there? Yeah? San Diego, texter does
have great Mexican food. This personsaid, I would also contend a hot
dog on a bun as a sandwich. I think you can make that argument.
Cooper, Where are you on hotdogs? Are they a sandwich?

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I mean that's you know, they'rewrapped in bread and sometimes if you do
a bad job opening the bun,you now have two pieces of bread to
you know, put your hot dogin. No, just like a hamburger
is not a sandwich. What howis a hamburger not a sandwich? It's
literally pieces of bread and meat.What is wrong with you? I don't

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call it a hamburger sandwich. Justlike there's ham inside two pieces of bread,
that's called a ham sandwich. Idon't call a hamburger a hamburger.
Sandwiches because there's a piece of beefinside. Okay, back in my hometown,
we used to have a diner andthey had hamburger sandwiches, cheeseburger sandwiches,
they had a paddy melt sandwich.It all said it right there on
the chalkboard, right when you walkedin. So just because you don't say

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sandwich doesn't mean other people don't saysandwich. I think a burger's absolutely a
sandwich. I mean I no,Okay, you're allowed to be wrong.
I had text mechs in Nice andMonaco, worst meal I've ever had.
Well, you made a bad choice, Texter because the food there's amazing,
but you're not gonna get Mexican food. There don't be a dough racist Mandy.

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What about pitas canolis calzones? Krapburgersare they sandwiches? No? Canoli's
are dessert calzones. It's like apizza in half. That's a folded pizza
unless you go to Paninos in ColoradoSprings where they make you a sandwich that
is a piece of pizza dough andthen they put the toppings on it,
then they cook it, then theyfolded in thirds and it is the most

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delicious sandwich thing and I want one. Now. We'll be right back.
We'll tell you that not since theZipper merge became a topic has there been
a hotly contested item on the textline as whether or not tacos are sandwiches.
We will be coming back to thatat some point in the future.
But now, a lot of stuffjust happened in Colorado, including a big

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supposed compromise for oil and gas betweendemocrats and players in the industry. And
joining me now from the American PetroleumInstitute is the president of that organization,
Mike Summers. Mike, welcome tothe show. Mandy. Great to be
with you. And put me downas tacos not being a sandwich. Well,

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there's a judge in Indiana who disagreeswith you strongly. Sir. I'm
just saying we'll come back to that. You know, the oil and gas
industry here in Colorado has been underattack, relentless attack, I would say,
since about twenty nineteen. And thisyear we were told there was a
grand comp and everything is going tobe great. Everybody's going to sit around

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and sin kubaya. What did yourindustry do to work with government on this?
And Why, Well, Mandy,as you know, as you point
out that we've been in these warsfor many, many years, and I
think both sides have decided that it'stime to put the weapons down and sought
a compromise this year in the Coloradolegislature. And it's really a pivotal moment

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for Colorado oil and gas, andwe're excited that we're going to be able
to at least for the next threeyears or so, keep those weapons down
and allow America's best producers, theproducers here in the great state of Colorado,
to continue to produce oil and gas. So I do think we've reached
a detant, at least for theshort term, because I think both sides
have understand how important oil and gasis going to be for the future of

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Colorado in this great state. Wewant to continue producing here, and we
think this compromise came at the righttime. And I do give Governor Poe's
credit for helping us get to thispoint. So let me ask you this
in the last we'll just go astwenty twenty four, right, let's go
last five years, has our industryin Colorado grown gotten smaller or stayed the

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same? So here in the state. Unfortunately it continues to go down.
We're about stable production right now,but we want to see that production continue
to expand there are three major operatorshere that have committed to continue to grow
in the state. Occadental Petroleum,Chevron and Civitas have both said all three

(01:25:36):
of them have said that they wantto continue to grow production. But the
reason that they cannot is because ofa regulatory environment and a legislative environment that
has really put a wet blanket ontop of production over the course of the
last few years. What we're hopingwith this compromise is that now we have
really a three year reprieve in termsof what the legislature is going to do

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UH to the Colorado oil and gasindustry, and we're hopeful that as a
consequence of that UH, it givesus some certainty and we can continue to
grow production in the centennial state.Well, I appreciate that where we're where
were What was it in the compromise? What what is the industry agreed on?
What what is being inflicted by thestate? What are we looking at
here? Well, first and foremost, what the compromise does is it says

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that for three years there aren't goingto be any punitive measures against the oil
and gas industry from the Colorado legislature. Second, it says that there aren't
going to be any punitive measures againstthe oil and gas industry on the ballot
because we've been fighting these words formany, many years. Both sides have
spent a lot of money, uh, you know, on these ballot initiatives.

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And then in addition to that,uh, the industry has agreed that
to one of one of Governor Poulos'spriorities, which is to fund uh some
light rail from Fort Collins to Denver, uh, you know, to meet
some of his public transportation goals.So we're hopeful that both sides got what
we needed to give us some certaintyto continue to grow production in the state

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and continue to provide those needed budgetrevenues to the state, because, as
you know, a lot of therevenue for the state of Colorado comes from
the oil and gas industry, andit's because of the production that's here and
the resource that is here that we'reable to continue to fund schools and public
transportation and public safety, which isreally going to be important, particularly during

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this time of high prices and increasedcrime. We need to continue to fund
those things through the oil and gasindustry, but we can't fund them if
we don't have production here. Andwe want to grow production here in the
state, and we have operators thatare committed to do that. Well,
I'm glad to hear that because Ihave listeners over the last five years who

(01:27:51):
have sent these texts saying, youknow, I've loved listening to your show,
but I'm on my way to Texaswhere they're oil and gas jobs.
So I do know that we havelost people and jobs over the years,
and I'm hoping we don't lose anymore of those because these tend to be
very high paying jobs. It's notjust about the tax revenue. It's about
the you know, the jobs thatpeople actually have that can actually provide for

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a family here in Colorado. Solet me ask you about the nations,
the sort of national you know,situation with the Biden administration, and I'll
just bet my spleen for a secondif I could, Mike, one of
my biggest frustrations with us being involvedin Ukraine and in the Middle East is
that if we just unleashed our ownoil and gas industry here in the United

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States, We could have a farbigger impact on the war in Russia because
we could bankrupt them by by havinggas prices be at at a level where
they cannot fuel their war anymore.And yet the Biden administration doesn't seem to
make that connection. So where arewe with the Biden administration and oil and
gas production. Well, let's firstof all, think about where Americans consumers

(01:28:59):
are right now. High gas prices, high electricity prices, concerns about reliability
of the nation's electric grid. Isthere anything that the Biden administration is doing
to address these problems? The answeris absolutely not. And in fact,
every single week it seems like weare dealing with a new regulation, a
new costly regulation on our industry thatisn't doing anything to advance American oil and

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gas and Mandy, you have putyour finger on it. The fact of
the matter is that American production cancontinue to supply the world with inexpensive oil
and natural gas, which we're goingto need for decades and decades to come.
And unfortunately, every policy decision thatthis administration has made has gone in
the exact opposite direction. So everyweek we have a new regulation, whether

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it's on new regulations on messane ornew regulations that are advancing electronic vehicles,
rather than allowing Americans to buy thecar and truck that they want to buy.
This administration believes that every American shouldbe in an ev even if it
doesn't make sense for the life thatthey live. So we as an industry
are standing up and saying it istime to reverse course, time to advance

(01:30:09):
American oil and gas. And wehave to do it because you and I
both know that if we don't doit here in the United States, where's
that production going to come from?Right, It's just going to go to
other countries that are hostile to Americaninterests. And that's been my biggest frustration.
When you look across the world,oil and gas consumption is not dropping
anywhere. I mean, there's nowherethat's using less oil and gas than they

(01:30:32):
were before, and yet we're notallowing our producers to go ahead and tap
into all of our massive resources herein the United States. Two, I'm
just going to say it almost useit as a weapon against bad actors around
the world. I'm not a hugefan of Saudi Arabia. I'm not a
fan of Venezuela, I'm not afan of Russia, and yet they are

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all allowed to keep driving their economyusing the oil and gas that we should
be using supply to keep down prices, to cripple them. And that's the
perch from a security standpoint. It'svery frustrating for me, So I can
only imagine it must drive you guyscrazy. Oh it does. But let's
put some numbers on it. Youknow, before the pandemic, the world

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was using you know, one hundredmillion barrels of oil every single day,
right, and now after the pandemic, we're using one hundred three million barrels
of oil every single day. Demandis going up, not down. And
the only question that policy makers shouldbe asking is where is that oil and
gas going to come from? Right, That's the only question I should ask,
because demand is only going up,not down. And if you want

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that production to come from a froma place like the United States, where
we drill in the most environmentally responsibleway, where those revenues from oil and
gas actually fund the needs of theAmerican people, or do you want that
production to go to places like Iranor Russia? Because demand isn't going away.
So policy makers here in the stateof Colorado, and in the United

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States Congress should be answering that question, and unfortunately they're answering completely different questions
that are not based on energy realityas we see it today. Mike Summers
from the American Petroleum Institute, he'sthe president. I appreciate you making time
for us today. Obviously, thisis a topic that affects all of our
lives every day. And here inColorado we're about to get reformulated gas because

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our governor welcomed the EPA downgrade onozone in twenty nineteen, and now the
chickens are coming home to roost.So I can hardly wait to see what's
coming down the pike for us onthat one. Andy, was great to
be with you today, and it'sgreat to be here in the state.
All right, Thank you, MikeSummers from the American Petroleum Institute. I

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just the whole thing, you know. Right now, we're finding out a
couple of things. And I sawthis over the weekend that Ukraine has been
barred from using our weapons to attackRussia. In Russia. Now I understand
the reasons behind it, like Iget it right. I understand that they
don't want it to be seen asan attack by the United States on Russian

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interest. But here's by telegraphing thatmessage. What they've done is now Russian
units are sitting up right across theborder and just firing rockets over the border
at Ukrainian positions because they know thatUkraine will not hit them with American arms.
So we are dictating how Ukraine isfighting that war. But we're not

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willing to say, how can wecrash the Russian economy because, by the
way, the sanctions that the Russianeconomy is under are not working at all.
They're not working at all. They'restill selling their oil. We've just
jacked up the price on everybody else. So how can we really hurt them?
How can we really make it impossiblefor Russia to continue with their aggression?

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Oh you know what we talked onFriday for like a hot second about
the Prime Minister of Slovakia getting anassassination at Tepic. I shot him.
Well over the weekend we find outthat not only is the president of Slovakia
pro Putin and pro Russia, sois the guy who shot him. And
now people are speculating that this isgoing to be the excuse that Putin needs

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to roll into Slovakia to help hisdear friend defend the country from Nazis.
I mean, isn't that what theytold everybody in Ukraine. Oh, it's
full of Nazis. We have togo in there and fight the Nazis.
So there's all these things going on. But if we just unleashed our oil
and gas resources here in the UnitedStates, we would not only cripple Russia,

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we would cripple the dictatorship in Venezuelathat has destroyed that country. We
could bring Saudi Arabia down a fewand I would love to see that happen.
And we have the oil and gashere in the United States. This
person said, I work in Coloradooil and gas, and I support it.
The wages are only okay to good. We work sixty five to ninety

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hours a week. That's what makespeople say it's high wages. Get a
lot of overtime, but you getpaid overtime. You know, I've never
minded working a lot of hours aslong as I was being paid. And
you know, overtime is a greatthing, especially if you can choose whether
or not to make an oil andglass decision. Ralph points out that Biden

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administration has been on the wrong sideof every policy decision since its inception.
I would agree with that wholeheartedly.The left government wants battery towered tanks in
our military. What idiots, Yeah, that's inconvenient because you know, well,
it's just inconvenient. Front range passengerrail will be a high speed rail,

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not a light rail. A lineis high speed you guys. Stop
using the word high speed rail foranything that would be in the front range.
High speed rail is what they havein Japan where they actually have the
space to get up to speed whilethey're traveling. We don't have that here.
Long not to call and you know, to Denver talking max thirty five
miles an hour, that's not highspeed rail. And that's on a good

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day. Right. Yeah, butovertime is taxed all to hell. Any
any good amount of money is taxedall to hell. Texter. I'm sorry
about that, Just sorry about that. Um No, a soup served in
a bread bowl is not a sandwich, is not a sandwich. I'll ask

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Gryan Edwards, but he thinks aboutthis kerfuffle, Ryan, taco and burrito
sandwich or not? Absolutely not.Now wait a minute, just hear me
out. They're just Mexican sandwiches,right, They're just delicious bits of meat
folded into a bread like substance.Is a hot dog sandwich? I think?
So what if you rip the topoff your butt accidentally and then you

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just smack the bun on top ofthe other bun. That's two pieces of
bread and some meat it between.Ryan, that's a sandwich. Now,
corn dog is not a sandwich.See that's why I feel like we start
to like let in all these otherfoods. Why can't sandwich be inclusive?
Why can't we make it a bigtent? Why can't we just have a
big whole bunch? Now? Howabout this? A hero a Greek sandwich,

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one piece of bread folded And whodoesn't love a ear? Although you're
a vegan so you don't. Yeah, yeah, it's like a hero or
like a like a pita, likea like Mediterranean like taco folded or tortilla.
You're starting to see, well,I still think that we're stretching it,
but I see where you're coming from. But again, the tortilla,
I mean you're talking like a tortillaor a taco. This is one flat

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piece of flour whatever. And thenand then you, yeah, you fold
it in there and you make ita little pouch. I think it has
to be two separate things. Andthat's why the hot dog doesn't quite that.
A hero does not work either.The hero is a Greek sandwich,
meaning it's a sandwich, means soyou're splitting hairs. I'm being inclusive.
I don't want every sandwich to feelloved. But I don't know why we

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have to. Because the judge hadto rule brito and tako or a sandwich
in Indiana, and the judge said, yes, it is. It is
a Mexican sandwich, just like ayaro is a Greek sandwich, just like
an Indian non bred sandwich is asandwich. Because it was a zoning issue,
a stupid zoning issue. But that'swhere this whole thing came from.

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Dragon sent me this text and hesaid, I may have missed it as
I drove through the pharmacy. Butis an open faced sandwich a sandwich?
If so is a pizza a sandwich. The open faced sandwich, by having
the word sandwich in the name,thusly is a sandwich. A pizza is
not. But you could make anargument for a cal zone is an ice
cream sandwich a sandwich. Of courseit's literally called a sandwich, Okay,

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I mean if it's called if ifsandwich is in the name, I think
it's grandfathered in. Yeah right,No, I mean exactly. I cannot
believe that that was the case,or that you heard about it on the
Mandy Connell Show. No, Ibelieve hearing about it on the show is
nothing. You know that that ActuallyI love I love you bring that stuff
to the show, because again Ican imagine Al or Dave, we're you

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know, getting out of their cards. They're just like wait what Yeah.
But at the same time, Ijust can't believe that that like is a
legitimate thing that had to be decidedin a quarter of cor Yeah, like
a judge actually had to go homeand think, so is a taco a
sandwich? And if not, whynot? It's gonna make a huge difference
here all of a sudden, itlike puts it like pales in comparison to

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like Miracle of thirty fourth Street orwhatever, or guess the Santa Clauses real,
Like, I thought that was insaneand that's a movie coming to a
theater near you. Thank goodness,that kid passed the one dollar bill though,
because man, that was kind ofreally dicey.