06-04-25 FULL SHOW - Benjamin Allbright Filling In: Dad Bods, Weight Loss & Drones

In this edition of the Mandy Connell Show, it's not Mandy hosting! Benjamin Allbright fills in for Mandy and Ben talks about how women prefer dudes with dad bods, he gets into chatting with AROD about how he lost 100+ pounds... and drones!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to the Mandy Connall Show. Not Mandy Connell.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Benjamin all right here five six, six, nine zeros. The
text line, you guys want to get involved in the conversation.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Ten gals.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Gonna need uh the gals to get involved today because
I got some topics here. One of them that's blowing
my mind about women's attraction to the dad bod. We'll
get to that here in just a little bit. Colorado
Rocky sweep the Miami Marlins three straight games. There down,
break out your brooms. First sweep of the season for

(00:59):
the all around of Rockies, meaning they won three to
two over the Miami Marlins. Kyle Frielan with the win,
Cal Quantrill, the former Rocky with the lost, Tyler Kinley
with the save in that when no home runs in
the game. The Rockies had six total hits, two from
Hunter Goodman, who continues his all star campaign, and it was.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
A good day for the Rockies.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Is you know you got the back to back wins
as if yesterday you get the sweep. As of today,
it's the first three in a row they've had since
well in the last year, and the Rockies improved to
twelve and fifty on the season. Somebody was cracking jokes
yesterday saying, if they win what eighty of their next hundred,
we're back in the We're back in the thick of things.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
You hold out you hope there. It does not look here. Yeah, no,
ondred percent. We're definitely not having the conversation about whether
they reached twenty wins or one hundred losses first, Okay,
Natty Moore at least because that's off track.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, I made the I was the one that was
cracking the jokes because they were five and twenty five
and I was like, do they get the ten wins
or or or fifty losses first? And they got the
fifty losses, but then they evened it up to ten
and fifty, then eleven to fifty, twelve and fifty with
the with the wins there and you know.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Good for the Rockies. We're talking playoffs now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I actually I think maybe that we want Bama signs
might be premature, but if you're a fan of college football,
you get that reference.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
But good good on the Rockies, and you know, good
on that for not only.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Winning a serious sweep in a series, even if it
is the Holy New Orleans. You're still you know, you
still got some momentum going, and maybe that'll be enough
to I don't think turn it around anyway, any kind
of playoff run, but turn it around into something that'll
be fun to watch for the remainder of the year.
I talk to you about right off the top there
about this this dad bod thing, and this is this

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is blowing my mind. Like I'm a you know, I'm
an early to mid forties guy, a single guy. I'm
out there dating, and I when this came across my feed,
I couldn't believe it. It doesn't this opinion doesn't mirror
my own dating history. But we've all heard of it.
You all heard the dad bod, you know, And and
what does that mean? Why has it become a pop

(03:02):
culture phenomena. The dad body's described as a body shape
that's particularly middle aged men.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
But it's not lean or toned.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's you get a little bit of the pear shape,
you know, you get the stomach thing going on, and
the dad bods received a lot of attention and praise lately,
making men who may be concerned about things like I guess,
hair loss and aging feel more confident. Eleven hundred American
women were surveyed across the country about their.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Opinions of the dad bod.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Seventy percent of women are fans of the dead seventy percent,
and that may be a surprise, majority of Americans are
fans of the new dad bod three and four women
nearly three and four. Seventy percent say they are fans
of the particular body type. Sixty one percent think dad
bods are attractive. Forty nine percent say dad bods are

(03:53):
the new sexy, and I I'm sorry, but I have
trouble believing that. I'm okay in ninety three percent don't
judge some of the dead. Okay, fine, I'm not judging
somebody for that, but it's the new sexy. I refuse
to believe that, and I refuse to believe there there

(04:14):
are in this survey there are women that say, at
sixty one percent that they prefer a dad bod to
the shredded physique that you see on magazine covers, which
I'm calling bunk on as well. Hey, there's no way
that this is true. There's no like in women. Tell
me if I'm wrong, but there's no way this is true.

(04:38):
Of women say they're attracted to men who prefer the
dad bod over someone really muscular, and one in five
would go as so far as to say the dadbod
is the new six pack, which is why everybody out
there is clamoring for sex scenes featuring Paul Giamadi and
Daddy DeVito.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Right, is this the female equivalent of the wise words
of Sir mix a lot.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I don't know what it is to me. It's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean again, I put on two two years ago,
I put on quite a bit of weight. I'm five
to ten for the women that are listening. That's a
real five to ten, not the five to seven pretending
to be five to ten.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I'm five to.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Ten and I had gotten up to but two years
gog I got up to about one hundred and thinety
two pounds I got. For me, that's that's fat, which
is a bad look for me because I have I
have like long legs and long arms, so it's it's
a skinny, fat look, and it's just a it's just
a really awful, really weird, almost spider body sort of look.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
And it was it was a bad look.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And so I've been trying to get back in shape,
especially more lately, and dropped a bunch of weight. And
as I've dropped the weight and gotten in better shape,
you know, I notice women noticing more. You know, I
don't get I get different looks than I got when
I had put on the weight. And so I I
look at this and I'm like, my own dating history
does not mirror these survey results. Certainly what we get

(06:02):
in terms of the ideal male physique. This isn't something
that's I don't know, plastered all over Hollywood. We're not
seeing a rush of orders for shirtless Kevin James photos.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Like I don't.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I just I don't understand. And that's being nice. I
mean really, at the end of the day, I think
these people that they survey, and again we know all
about surveying.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's a small sample size. I think there han one
hundred people.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
This is a certificate statistically significant.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Seventy I think they're being nice.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Seventy three percent of people say having a dadbod meets
a person still appears to be fit with a little
extra weight. Three and four say someone with a dad
bod is still overall healthy.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Well, see for me the immediate thought of dad body's
got the big old beer guy.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, I mean that's what I think too. I guess
that goes with portrayed. It goes with how they but
they portrayed. It is having, you know, the kind of
the spare tire sort of physique. As for attraction, sixty
five percent of people say a person's body type matters
to them and whether they find the person attractive. Overall,
men put more emphasis on it, seventy four percent of
men saying body type matters.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Women less so at fifty seven.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Percent, which you know would lead to maybe women are
more forgiving on the physique in ter if the man
is has got other attributes that they value, which is fine.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Whatever you value is whatever you value.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm not I'm not trying to sit here and judge,
even though this topic perplexes me a little bit.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I just like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Seventy one percent saying that is that that's the look,
And I just my own dating history has me sitting
here with eyebrows raised against this. Now there have been.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Times Now, wait, real, quaid, do they say that it's
attractive or more attractive?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
It says more attractive or attractive in.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Some cases sixty percent saying more attractive than a shredded physique.
Now I'm wondering if that has some other.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Psychological impact to that. I'll get to that in a second.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
There have been times throughout history where weighing more, being
overweight was actually the look through the dark ages, you know,
it was considered a sign of wealth. If a man
was you know, was overweight, rotund, whatever, rubenesque, if you
will that, you know, because you were able to eat right,

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you were able to eat enough to be that. And
so in times where that existed and that physique existed,
that was the revered physique, as it were. But I
wonder if there's a psychological component to it. One of
the Texters has already kind of hit on this and says,
I love good six pack, but a dad bought is
less pressure. And I wonder if there's a component of

(08:50):
you know, a man who's us you know, he's not ripped,
but he's got you know, a softer physique. I guess,
and has gotten to the point where where women are like, okay,
well that's less I can give my side. I can
be more forgiving on myself. There's less pressure to keep
up with that because in my experience and again just
my experience, women do try to keep up with that sometimes,

(09:12):
and as men we don't necessarily We're not necessarily tried
to have you do that. Women juggle so much already.
But I find it fascinating and I just I just
don't understand. This was a nationwide pole five six six
nine zeros of text line three six Oh. My question
is what are the body types of these women who
are taking the poll? Are we conducting this pole in

(09:32):
Colorado or Alabama?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Asking?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Because standards and expectations the opposite set can be vastly different.
Or maybe I'm just shallow. No, I mean, everybody has
what they prefer, and you know, you have what you prefer.
I have what I prefer. Nobody I don't judge, you know,
I think preferences are are a good thing. If you
prefer something that's that's what you prefer, go for it.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Look for that.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
For me, I think when you know, when I noticed somebody,
you notice as a man to somebody physically before anything else.
So there is a component of that. No matter what
I think. When I look at you know, I look
at the one, I'm like, Okay, she's hot. Now let
me you know, let me ask her out and see
if we if we click, see if we vibe, see
if we have a see if we have.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
That kind of connection.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I think physical looks at least for me, and I
don't speak for all men, but physical looks for me.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
That gets you in the door.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
But there's got to be something more, you know, once
we sit down and start talking, there's got to be
something more of that.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Can you Is she fun? Is she funny? Is she banter?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Is she intellectual? Is there you know, all these other
components to a person beyond you know, the physicality of it.
But I think that exists.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
So are they associating dad bod with the qualities that
are not full of yourself, not too focused on your fitness,
more emotional. That's what I would think. That's what makes
me believe that this is possibly true. Drilling down into
some of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
More than one in three women say a man with
a dadbod appears to be more trustworthy than someone with
another body type. I wonder if they think that guys
who are you know, ever tried to keep ep up
their parents are trying to keep up their appearance to
maybe keep their options open. Is is that you know
some component of this. It sort of feels like it.
With that question, ninety percent would rather be with someone

(11:11):
who has a dadbod and a great personality than a
supermodel with a dull personality that I can understand. You know,
I've been on dates with women who are very starkly attractive,
but just the conversation it was like talking to a wall,
and that's, you know, like I said, but looks, we'll
get you in the door. But that doesn't that doesn't
get you much further than that. The majority of people

(11:35):
appear to be fans of the dadbod. It may not
only be because of looks, but what people think of
the person. Forty nine percent of people believe men with
dad bods have happier relationships and marriages.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
When asked to describe a.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Person with a dad bod, the top terms included family, man, supportive, caring,
good husband, busy, and providers. So this would seem to
indicate that women view that with a sense of comfort
in their own lives and in a less stressed, less

(12:08):
in an ability to provide. Obviously, if you're able to
put on the pounds, you're able to afford the food
to put on the pounds, right. Fifty eight percent of
people say Dad bought us a side of someone who
is confident.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
In his own skin. I would I would agree with that.
I mean, I mean, you know, that's that's one of
those things.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean, there's like when I when I blew up,
I got to the point where I was like, Okay,
I'm no longer confident my own skin. I had to
lose the weight again, but I got to that point
because I was confident in my own skin.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
If that makes sense, So I can understand that.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Seventy seven percent say that their physique has gotten worse
since the start of the pandemic. Mind did that's what
I blew up? I put on all that weight? Hey, ron,
you you going the other way?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Man?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
You've gotten smelt since? Uh yeah, hit that there you go.
Hit the Seventy nine percent of women say their physique
has got worse since the start of the pandemic. Seventy
five percent of men say the same thing. Thirty one
percent say they developed dad bods since the pandemic began
fourteen percent, So they've got rid of dad bods since
the pandemic began, So you're in the.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Fourteen percent their era.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Eighty eight percent of men, however, say they want to
improve their fitness level. Eighty seven percent say they want
to improve their physique. So an overwhelming number of men
who have this and say they're confident at the same
time say they want to improve themselves.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
So ladies are saying, pump the brakes, keep it, keep
the extra poundage.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Staying healthy during the pandemic was hard for a lot
of people, and that was you know that make make
sense when it comes to that. Forty four percent of
people have changed their diet or exercise habits to look
and feel better before warmer weather hits. The average age
of respondent was thirty seven years old, and this was
say survey of one thy one hundred and ten Americans

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across the country.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
We will, uh, we'll talk a little bit more about that.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
We'll talk about some other things that are going on
around the country here throughout the show, taking me all
the way up to Kiwi Sports, Bryan Edwards and Dave
logan at that point in time of Benjamin aal Bright
filling in for Mandy Connell seven to us says, this
is the here rather than the view. Three oh three

(14:35):
I have to call a big bs on this stand
pot think. Well, that's that's where I was with it.
I don't like. I mean, I'm hoping that there's some
women on the text line that can explain this, like
why if they if they do indeed prefer that physique,
why because otherwise I'm out here on eight hundred calories
a day right now, bust in my backside, hit the gym,

(14:57):
trying to try to slim down, and uh, if I
can just let that go.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I think they're being nice and maybe maybe maybe that's
what it is. Maybe that's what it is. They're like, yeah, yeah,
they're attractive. Sure yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Nine s one oh says so many women now have
the Homer Simpson bod that most women are just willing
to settle for it, mmm, opening up the Homer hair.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Seven two oh says fifteen minute rule. If after fifteen
minutes the looks are the main reason you're still talking to.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Them, walk away. That's that's probably a good that's probably
a good thing.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean, I like for me, like I said, it's
you notice somebody you can't help it. Like anybody that
says that looks don't matter at all, is they're lying
like they are you're lying? Uh, they matter that they
that's the that's the gets you in the door, right
Like what you got to be able to sit down
and have a conversation with somebody, That's where that's where
it starts to click. That's where it starts to come together,

(15:54):
at least for me. Five six six nine zeros A
text line seven too. Oh. When it comes to women
judging a man about the dadbod, most women don't want
somebody that's along the lines of any type of gym
guide and take good care of themselves because they actually
think he's going to be high maintenance. Last thing a
woman wants is a high maintenance man.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Okay, I can I.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Could get that because the opposite is sort of a
thing for men. You know, there are some way we
look at them like that's a high maintenance woman. I
don't know if so I can understand that line of
thinking that you see a man that puts that much
time into into maintaining his physique, and you see that

(16:37):
that that might be or you think that that might
be a high.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Maintenance man you don't want to deal with that. That
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I can get that that.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
That explanation makes a little sense to me. Sebon one four.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I think this survey was completed by a bunch of
dudes with dad bots pretending to be pretending to be
women for this for the survey.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I just I
found that fascinting.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
We're geting some other things for Biden Press secretary left
the Democratic Party to become an independent all for sales
of a book. It looks like we'll get it a
little bit of that here in just a little bit.
I want to get into the brilliant, frankly Ukrainian drone
strike against Russia and what implications that has not only

(17:27):
in the United States the future of warfare, but the
you know, the current crisis or situation going on there
in Ukraine and Russia as well. We'll get into some
stuff about the situation of Boulder.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I think that.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I think there's some interesting stuff going on with that
and the fact that he was denied He tried to
get a gun and was denied.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Thanks to a background check, so I have the opportunity
to get into that.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You listen to me and Connell show I'm bitch bit
Albright fill it in five, six, six, nine zeros. The
text line appreciate you guys, uh texting in. Get a
lot of texts of the breakover to a couple of these.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Here were there any numbers for the opposite? Is anyone
looking for the mom bod?

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I didn't see anything on that, but I will. I
didn't even I didn't even think to look at that,
and that's I don't know me that sex and stuff me.
I will, I'll look that up. See I see if
there's any mom bod studies out there, surveys out there,
See what's up with them?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Seven two oh, David.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Too many guys who are obsessed with their looks real drag.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I can get that, and I would say that I
hope I'm not obsessed with my looks. But like I do,
I've been a point in my life where I have
to put extra effort in and so like I.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Do think about that more than then perhaps I used to.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Ironically, I think it's the guys that come from dad
bod that become a little obsessive with their looks because
they finally think they look pretty good. Like myself almost
three hundred twenty pounds didn't look too great.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, you look, they look great.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Now.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
We don't do to give you enough credit.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
For that, by the way, like you went from three
twenty down to how much did you lose all total?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I mean I like to hover around like two fifteen now, okay,
all right, but I mean it's incredible, you know, like
I take pride in the fact.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
That I went from I went from a buck ninety
back to a buck sixty and then started trying to
work out again to you know, turn up. But like,
that's that's incredible. We don't give we don't give enough
hat tips.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
The guys are so dragging, and Shannon in the building
draggons well honestly all of them.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
The both of you and Ryan who lost lost a
bunch of weight Between the three guys. That was kind
of the thing for me. I kind of looked around
and I was like, wait a minute. You know, these
guys are doing it right, and here I am being
the lazy bombs. So I, you know, shout out to
all three. You're dragging. Ryan Edwards in Anthony for losing
the weight and inspiring me to do the same.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Well, those three you're throwing, Shannon, I think rough number
probably honestly between the four of us, like four or
five hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
There you go total, there you go, which is nuts. Yeah,
be healthy, lived longer. Uh, thank you to these seven
to has been.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm glad you're on the air for Mandy while she's gone.
I hope you'll be covering more days for thanks. Hope
you have a great day. Current dad bod guy by
the way, fifty five years old. Well we'll celebrate that together.
Like I said, I'm trying to get trying to get
all the way back in shape.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I want to get back.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I mean twenty ten, I was the US s rmy
Master Fitness Trainer, still in the military. I was a
couple of years from getting out, and I man, I
just let myself go over the last fifteen So I'm
trying to put it back together.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I promise you guys will get into some other stuff.
You guys want to comment on the Dad about stuff.
Feel free five six six nine zero. Korean Jean Pierre
has announced that she's leaving the Democratic Party and the
surprise of no what. It's timed with the rollout of
a new book, which has dedated long simmering grievances among
her former White House colleagues about her pursuit of celebrity

(20:48):
and personal media exposure while serving as then President Joe
Biden's press secretary. The attention grabbingploy lit up Democrat and
Biden alumni texting groups, reignited frustrations that burned for years
about Jean Pierre. According to seven Biden administrated and officials
granted anonymity to describe private conversations, one former official recalled

(21:09):
that Jean Pierre had joked about.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Becoming an independent even while on.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
The job in the Biden White House, an off key
comment for someone ostensibly serving as a major messenger for
the Democratic Party. Another official said that Jean Pierre had
begun working during the Biden administration with a New York
based publicist and had copied that person on official emails.
Before some of Jean Pierre's White House colleagues intervened, one

(21:33):
of the former officials said, everyone thinks this is a
grift of Jean Pierre's book project. As Biden's press secretary,
Jean Pierre's halting, ineffectual briefings exasperated reporters, routinely offered material
for the Republican Party's main account on Twitter. She frustrated
colleagues throughout the West Wing for focusing on raising her

(21:54):
own profile while leaving the hands on management of media
relations in the White House press shop to other aids.
It's unclear how she's going to portray Biden in her
or her time in the White House in the book,
which is entitled quote Independent, A Look inside a Broken
White House Outside the Party lines. Several former colleagues expressed

(22:14):
confusion as to how she seemingly intends to paint Biden
as a victim while pinning her own decision to leave
the party on his broken White House.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
The teasing of the book project by the.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Hashat imprint stated that Jean Pierre will offer her view
of the three weeks of turmoil following Biden's miserable debate
last summer that culminated with him dropping his reelection bid
a result. The book's promotional material blames, in part unquote
a betrayal by the Democratic Party. Job Here's former staffords
offered withering criticism of what they see as an opportunistic grift, saying, quote,

(22:49):
she made a joke about being an independent last year,
and now it's all about a book. All ideas are monetary,
even dumb ones. He legaki Yer, Democrat strategist who worked
in the Commerce Department's communications choppel during Biden's term, also
took issue with the books of parent premise, calling it

(23:10):
irresponsible and.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
That this was an unwarranted act of betrayal.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
This may be the rare opportunity where somebody is hated
by literally everyone for doing this. I mean, I get
it in the post administration cash grab that people who
are now out of work try to do. But leaving
the party that you were in to claim that you're
an independent now, even though your experience is on everything
that you're going to put into this book, you ostensibly

(23:39):
were not. Whatever you think of the Biden administration, certainly,
Jake Tapper and his book have put out publicly what
has long been suspected, and that there was a cover
up for some of Biden's mental acuity.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Jean Pierre was a big part of that. She might
have literally been the face of it. And now you're
going to put.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
A book out, She's going to put a book out
in which she claims that it was a betrayal by
the Democratic Party. A New York based publicist, Gilda Squire,
worked informally with Jean Pierre while she was in the
White House and was on multiple occasions copied on official

(24:27):
emails before staffers raised issue. Another former official said Squire,
who previously served as a publicity director for HarperCollins Publishers
and also did pr for Penguin Putnam Publishing.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
According to her LinkedIn, Jean.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Pierre was the subject of several lengthy profiles and lifes
lifestyle publications, including Vogue Women's Health, traveled to New York
to appear on The View. According to two of the
former officials, Jean Pierre had been hoping for a post
White House job as a co host of the show,
following the predecessor template that was set out by Jen Psaki,

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who departed the job after just more than a year
for an anchor job at m MISSNBC. No such opportunity
to materialized for Jean Pierre, a factor three of her
former colleague surmise likely led to the book, while a
number of former colleagues that kept their comments private. Jarity Edwards,

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who served in the press shop under Jean Pierre posted
perhaps the most succinct response to her book project on Twitter,
a simple lol. Jean Pierre wouldn't be the first press
secretary of recent years to turn against her boss or
former colleague. Stephanie Grisham, who served as press secretary during
President Donald Trump's first term, authored a twenty twenty one

(25:49):
book detailing her experience in the White House and how
often Trump rated her. But whereas Grisham was never allowed
to brief at the podium, Jean Pierre was the public
face of the administed creation for two.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
And a half years.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
One Democratic operative who worked with Jean Pierre prior to
her White House tenure called a sudden turned about quote
the most grifty thing I've seen.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
In a long time.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
And that's saying something in Washington end quote other White
House official quote. She was the public face telling us
all that this White House was on track and that
Biden was amazing. And now she doesn't even want to
be a Democrat. She's making herself the middle ground here
when Republicans hate her. She's got in any position to
be a connector of our two party system, and assuming

(26:35):
she could be is just ego, we got to hit
a break.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
We'll be back after this. It's gonna be Wow. Does
she have a vacation. She is on a very long vacation.
Good for Maddie, two and a half weeks long. I
don't get those kind of vacations. Ye ye there. They
just make me come in here and work.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Five sixty nine zeros in text line. But talking about
the dad. But I got a bunch of text messages
coming in.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
The seven to old.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Please share how he lost so much weight?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I'm interested talking about a rod. I assume we talk
about a rod.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
I lost, you know, like twenty five pounds, but that
you know a rod lost a ton of weight?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
What what was?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
First of all, what what got you motivated to do that?
Second of all, how did you what plan did you use?
And how difficult was it for you to stick to it?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Well?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
August first, I know the date to this day, August first,
of twenty twenty one. We got a new puppy. I
wanted to know how much the puppy weighed. Jumped on
the scale. She was small and then numbers had three
hundred and thirty. I'm like, well, she's this puty little
thing that is not much of the puppy. Yeah, that
was my literal eyes popping out of my head, rode awakening,

(27:49):
like this was out of control?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Was it was it? Diet? Was it exercise? With all
of it? It was all of it, It was all
of it.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
It started because we were constructing our backyard, so we
lost ten pounds just in sunstroke pulling weeds. So it
was kind of like a launching off point. But then
seeing that number partner with that, it was a slow
roll the first almost i'd say a league at least
two thirds of a year.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
And I say slow roll, like I lost. It took
about I.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Think like ten months to lose about fifty pounds, So
it was a slow roll, you know, pound or two
a week, diet.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Exercise, nothing too out of the ordinary.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
And then our good friends that you still hear on
the station so to weight loss, ye staweight loss dot
com helped me. Instead of taking ten months to lose
fifty three and a half lost the next fifty so
about a third of the time, much shorter time. And
that's really I mean soda is really big obviously, just
on high protein, low carb. They have a structured meal

(28:48):
plan so that that's what really helped me do it,
and I just looked.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I'm actually baffled.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
It has been two and a half years now since
I've lost the weight and kept it off.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Now, nuts was.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Difficult to stick to any of the program that kind
of stuff because like for me, the hardest thing, like
I'm such a foodie and I've got a sweet tooth.
Like for me, the hardest part, the hardest part for
me is an exercising. You get up and doing that.
The hardest part for me is sticking to the diet
portion of it.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Well, luckily, on the soda diet, it's pretty it's pretty
darn flexible in terms of able to have all kinds
of different food that you want. It doesn't you don't
bounce back too hard. It's it's it's pretty flexible and
the different things that allows you to eat. There's good
maintenance programs that they offer. But now for me, so
personally now in the last three months, because honestly so

(29:37):
soda pre soda for about three years it was it
was low carb.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Now you go.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
You and I have talked about when you go low
carb for a sustained period of time, your body can
start to start to freak out a little bit, start
to want to have a bit more carbs, and you
start to I mean, honestly, after after that many years,
it does start to feel unhealthy. So my wife and
I switched to a low calorie a couple months ago,
and I just feel way better.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Way back.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's when I switched to low calorie from no carb
like that. That really, I mean, I still limit the carbs,
but I'll give myself, you know, a spoonful of two
or ice cream just to every once in a while,
just to you know, to sate the cravings and all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I think that as long as you're you're working.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Out and sticking to everything else, just giving yourself like
a little you know, working bites out of the of
the cart and ice cream, that it makes all the
difference for me.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah, it's about education when it comes in nutrition. Honestly,
that's what soda did a great job at. But honestly,
it sounds easy just saying it out loud, but when
it comes to the basics to start, I mean, drink
one hundred plus ounces of water a day my workout.
For most of my weight loss, I'd say at least
about seventy eighty percent of my workouts have always been

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simply walking.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, just walking.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
The only time I really had to change that up
is you walk and do that same exercise for so long,
eventually your body gets used to that.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You gotta ramp it out.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Yea yetta, Yeah, so I will now do I now
have to do incline walking. I'll throw in some weights
in there as well, but walk a whole bunch. Cut
out the bad stuff. They're all are less. Get moving, yes,
And specifically when it comes to low carb, there are
low carb alternatives to almost everything. Specifically, I never ever

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even taste wise, even if I didn't need to diet,
I never really do any of the normal bread, normal
tortillas anymore. It's low carb versions of absolutely everything, and
you will not taste the difference. We will blind taste
tests and no one will know the difference. That is
how good they have these foods.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Now, what need to do that?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Because like you know, I last year or whatever it was,
that what I started on the no carb thing. You know,
me and carbs mutually parted ways in January. But well,
I tell you I had I had a bread stick
in August. That makeup sex was phenomenal. There was a
single tear rolling down my eyes as I you know,
as I had carbs again for the first time, and
it was anyway.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yeah, well then and the finally, finally, my last biggest
key that I've done in terms of because it's been now,
like I said, two and a.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Half years, I've kept it off.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
We do a kind of a two week on two
week off where if we're going on a vacation, right,
last thing you want to do is be on a diet.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
You want to be able to splurge, enjoy.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yourself, right, two weeks before vacation, we go pretty much
what we've called so district where we'll go really really
strict for two weeks before the vacation and then do
a prap for the baker and then two weeks after
the vacation to make up for the vacation, because, like
I said, you want to enjoy yourself, so that that
little strategy I personally adopt.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
So well, if you're looking to yeah, if you're looking
to improve your physical looking to prove your health, you
know that those are I strongly encourage.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
If anyone wants to ask, I am more than willing
and would love to answer any questions. So just shoot
me an email at a Rod at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's yeah, a Rod at iHeartMedia dot com. And you
guys can He'll walk you through his journey and how
he h three L three, says Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. She
was the football bat of the White House, only deserving
of a soup sandwich. Somebody's military. Uh we got a
thumbs up emoji here. I don't know what that's about.
Seven to two old, says I hope she dedicates a
section or book to addressing how Biden often got lost

(32:48):
in his own closet, according to a secret service whistleblower.
Nine seven Oh it's no code, Dan says, I have
the granddad bod. I must say. Chicks dig me. Of course,
they're probably in their fifties to eighties. I think the
dad bad thing has more to do with attitude than looks.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
That's from no coden.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, I mean probably that's that's probably there Probably is
a confidence or a sense of confidence when you get
confident with yourself. I've always, you know, sort of had
body issues to a degree.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I was, you know, my dad was was six three
to twenty.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Uh and I never you know, it was expected that
I was going to grow, you know, into that size,
and I never did.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I I'm five ten.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I mean, legit, five ten, not the line on your
dating profile, guy, Like, that's it's so weird. Actually that's
apparently that's a thing I showed up to date, you know,
on the app. I'm like, I changed, I even changed
my bio to be like the only guy on the
internet who doesn't lie about his height. Just show up
five ten and people are super Yo, you're actually five ten.
I thought you'd be like five eight or five seven,
trying to you know, apparently it's the thing.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Dude too, don't do that. Don't pretend.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
But yeah, it's it's like I've always I've had some
sort of you know, issue with that because I never
get as bulky as you know, is as tall or
as bulky as I was supposed to be so or
as projected to be. I guess, and uh, and so
I guess I've always had kind of that that issue.
I guess when I look at myself in the mirror, like,
but I don't want to be. It took me a
while to get comfortable that said, it took me a
while to get comfortable with myself and in my own

(34:16):
skin and get to that point where you know, now
I want to look a certain way because that's the
way I want to look, not because I need you
know anything else about it. So we'll come back and
talk about So we talked about the drone strikes. I
got a few other things I want to get into
about the Triffian paradox to economics.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
We'll get a chance to do some of that. You
listen to Mandy Connon Show and Benjaminal right, Phillina. We'll
get back after this.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
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Speaker 5 (34:53):
Guy, sad babe, A little.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Bit of Mandy conaldshm.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
But all right here with you filling in for Mandy.
It's off on vacation. Thanks for joining us here. Five
six six nine zeros. The text line, I love hearing
what you guys have to say. Start off the show
talking about this survey that says that women prefer almost
to want prefer the dad bod to a shredded physico
and a man. A little bit of uh I think

(35:35):
the lunacy of the Karen Jeanpierre book thing that's going on.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Three h three says.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
The other thing about carbs is not to be fooled
by sugar free foods. The amount of carbs is often
similar to that of regular foods since they had other
things to make up for the lack of sugar. So
I mostly just eat the regular stuff and limited quantities.
They taste better anyway. Yeah, I mean, if you're getting
that far into it, then you you know, you got
to watch the calories and the cards in the box.
Forget the labeling, the advertising, the sugar free, all all

(36:07):
that stuff they're trying to get you to buy their food.
Just go look at the brass tax numbers on the
on the side of the box or whatever.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
And go from there. Three or three cents.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Enjoy your show, Ben, I've always enjoyed your broncos and
sports takes and appreciate your grounded perspective on the news
of the day as well. These ground drone strikes could
be a turning point for Ukraine. I do as well,
and that's something that I've I wanted to get in here.
I want to get in here and talk about a
little bit for those that don't know obviously about the

(36:37):
the drone strike that occurred was Sunday, and the Ukraine had,
frankly one of the more brilliant modern day trojan horse

(36:58):
sort of attacks on Russian bombers that we've seen.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
And there's a rippling effect to it in what.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
This could symbolize not only for that conflict, but the
future of warfare as well as exposed vulnerabilities here at
home in our own defense. And I'll get to that
in a moment. Of those that don't know, you know
my background. I'm not just sports guy at night. Obviously
some of you've heard me in Broncos country to night,
but you know I was in the military for fifteen
years with the our fifteen years, did multiple combat tours.

(37:32):
I've worked two different presidential campaigns, one for each party
in terms of data and analytics, So you know, I
have a background beyond what you would normally associate me with,
which is sports. So I don't just want to be
some guy out here blathering on. So at least you
understand that I have some semblance of knowing what I

(37:55):
was talking about. The Ukrainian Security Services today released new
vide of the spiderweb strikes so what they're calling it
on the Kremlins nuclear capable bombers inside Russia. During the operation,
modern UAV control technology.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Was used, which is which combines.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Autonomous AI algorithms and manual operator intervention. During the flight,
some of the drones lost signal as switched to performing
emission using AI along a pre planned route. After approaching
and contacting a specifically designated target, the warhead was automatically detonate.

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The SBU released a collection of new video footage. It
shows Ukrainian drones hitting engines, antenna's wings, and other parts
of different Russian strategic and reconnaissance aircraft at four military
airfields located thousands of kilometers inside Russia. Russia frequently used
those airfields to bomb Ukraine cities with ballistic and cruise missiles.
Among the aircraft's hit were A fifties to ninety five

(38:56):
to twenty two, T one, sixties and twelves and Aisle
seventy eight's. It's about seven billion dollars worth of current
financial damage to the Russian armed forces. Operation open source
intelligence experts journalists everybody's already confirmed satellite for destruction of
at least eleven strategic bombers. The bigger portion of the

(39:18):
of that part of it, or that component of it
that is advantageous for the Ukraine is that Russia is
using mostly discontinued planes. They're no longer in production. The
TV series of bombers that they use no longer in production.
So repairing those planes is that's difficult. Replacing them is impossible.

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And in order to continue bombing operations of the magnitude
that they have that when they have to basically begin
and ramp up a manufacturing process to manufacture more aircraft
to be able to do this. The Spiderweb drone operation
frankly stilled the world with its audacity. Some pretty keen

(40:04):
watchers praising the Ukraine for rewriting the rules of modern warfare.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
We'll get it to that in a moment. You have
Special Envoy on the Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Keith Kellogg expressed concern about the tactics, saying when you
attack an opponent's part of their national survival system, which
is their try their nuclear triad, that your risk level
goes up because you don't know what the other is
going to do. When you do that. It's very clear
the risk levelsi go up. That's what we try to avoid.
Kellogg told that to Fox News on Tuesday, and basically

(40:33):
we's referring to its retaliation. You know what, if anything,
Russia will do as retaliation. The strike certainly boosted morale
in the Ukraine, where Russian troops have been pushing forward
on the eastern dn Teeska and Kharkiv regions and are
now expanding their offensive in Ukraine's northeastern region of Sumi.
The Russian Defense Ministry downplayed the drawing attacks on its airfield,

(40:54):
claiming bombers only hit at two sites in the Irkutzk
and Murnamasque regions. Know that to be untrue, just based
on satellite photography that we have. Attacks on military airfields
in Ivanovo, Ryazad and Emo regions were repelled, the ministry said,
although we again know that to be false. No military
or civilian personnel were hurt. We don't know if that's
true or false, but we have no reason not to

(41:16):
take them at their word based on what was targeted,
which was airplanes on the runway and outside of hangars,
things like that. Ukrainian President Zelenski has said that the
spider web attacks would never have happened if Moscow had
agreed to Ukraine's unconditional ceasefire proposal and quote, had there
been a ceasefire before our operations, there'd be no operation.

(41:37):
Wanting a ceasefire doesn't mean we do nothing in the
meantime we come back. I want to get into the
broader impact of that, what that means for the future
warfare and the frankly, the safety of the homeland here
in America. Are we at risk from gorilla type dro attacks?
We gotta hit a break, Sandy Kotta Show and Benjamin Albright.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Will be back.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
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Speaker 2 (42:02):
To talk about dad bods and drone strikes.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
We were talking about the drone strikes before, and I
wanted to get into a little portion of that that
that has to do with, you know, where this stuff
is headed at. The operation itself was rather brilliant. They
snuck a bunch of regular quad coff for drones into
Russia in wooden cabins that they had Russian delivery drivers deliver.
They had false roofs that led the let the drones

(42:31):
out and carried munitions on it and and that part
of it was was rather brilliable when you look at
the ripple effect of the long standing what this could
do long term to the future of warfare or reached
that to a buddy mine. Jason Betheni one of the
smartest guys I know. He used to be the UH
the director of the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Have today's IARPA,

(42:54):
which is UH an organization within the Office of the
Director of National Intelligence. Basically you see James Bond, They're
the Q guys are coming up with stuff. It's their
job to be strategic thinkers. Jason was the director of
Research at Future of Humanity Institute at Oxford. Prior to that,
they focused on existential risk. He's held positions the World Banks,

(43:16):
the Center for Biosecurity, and Princeton as well. He said
that any country that has strategic bombers, strategic missiles and silos,
or strategic nuclear submarines at port is looking at the
attack and thinking that the risk to our arsenal from
a containerized set of drones disguised as a semi trailer
poses a real risk. Basically, what he's saying is that
anybody could ship something into Port put it in, you know,

(43:39):
and then send it out from there.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
So if you're close enough for.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
You know, and for an attack to happen from a
port that hasn't been cleared you know, through customs and
that kind of stuff, that that that presents a potential
risk for.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
The American Homeland Armie.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
General Brian Fenton, who's the commander of US Special Operations,
came and told Congress back in April, the character of
warfare is changing at a ratio fast that we've ever seen.
Our adversaries used ten thousand dollars one way drones that
we shoot down with two million dollar missiles. The cost
benefit curve is upside down. Unconventional methods such as exploiting
a technology supply chain or also being used by established

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powers to degrade their adversaries. Back in September, amid attacks
across its northern border, Israel pulled off a pretty audacious
operation that rigged pagers. I think everybody remembers that one
walkie talkie some pagers to explode when triggered remotely. The
attack contributed to the devastation of hesbla's ranks, from which
it has not recovered, and may have spared Israel a

(44:39):
costly invasion of Lebanon. Asymmetric warfare is as old as
the Bible's David versus Goliath, and is devastating is the
September eleventh attacks in which Al Qita operatives hijacked US
airliners and killed almost three thousand people. That plot costs
somewhere between four hundred and five hundred thousand dollars according
to the nine to eleven Commission, and by estimates. The

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United States has conversely spent eight trillion in post nine
to eleven wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and everywhere else.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
So again, as.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
We're seeing the cost benefit curve here is works in
favor of the smaller force. Even short range craft like
the ones Ukraine smuggled a Russia have become the asymmetric
weapon of choice because of their relatively low cost, accessibility,
remote piloting, and ease of manufacturing en mass.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
What much has been made of cyber.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Weapons in asymmetric warfare, there was wide stream of fear
about Russia taking out Ukraine's electric grid and communication networks
before todmnivated. Most of the physical impact of that has
des honestly been muted. Saturday's drone attacks in Russia took
eighteen months to plan, involve smuggling drones inside the country
on commercial trucks parked near military airfields, where they were
then remotely activated and piloted. So far, the attack destroyed

(45:56):
at least thirteen aircraft, including nuclear capable bombers that were
part of Moscow strategic de turret, and damage dozens of others.
Bradley Bowman of the Foundation for Defensive Democracies Think Tanks
said that very same type of strike can be conducted
against US, adding that the United States has potentially vulnerable
bombers and high value fighter jets deployed worldwide for more

(46:20):
than three years. The war Ukraine has repeatedly surprised US
officials by showing how in expensive drones, some even made
off three D printers or controlled by filaments of fiber
optic cable, have become multipurpose weapons.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
That could be part of infantry fighting.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Used as a form of artillery, as an intelligence asset
to gain battlefield awareness. The one piece we didn't have
is a sense of whether they could be used to
threaten strategic forces. In Sunday's attack has pretty much made
that apparent. Representative Jason Crowe from Colorado has been urging
the Pentagon to accelerate its efforts to learn lessons from

(46:54):
the use of drones and other technology in Ukraine. In
three years, the United States has gone on from being
Ukraine's primary trainer to actually learning more from them than
we are training them. And that's a quote from Qro
who sits ast ontop the House Armed Services and Intelligence Committee.
This conflict has already fundamentally changed the nature of warfare.

(47:17):
Crow said, exorbitant amounts of money on military progress or
conflicts that would have been relevant decades ago. And the
Pentagon is trying to find and has a focused on
wasteed abuse. That would be an area in which potentially
the United States could look to save money.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
We got to hit a break. We'll be back.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Mandy Coyle Show Kaway five six six nine zero is
the text line you guys want to get in on
the conversation. We talked about a little bit of everything
from dad bods to drone strikes. We'll get into the
uh Triffin paradox here in a minute.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Nine for nine.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Ben are you here all week? Well, I'm here in
Denver all week. I'm not gonna be a Mandy show tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
No, but I hope you guys have enjoyed today. I've
certainly enjoyed doing this with you.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Seven to two. Oho, try liquid monk fruit extracts, a
sugar free alternative. You have a sweet tooth while going
low carb or sugar. That's what I was using, was
the monk fruit stuff that that really worked for me.
So I'm with you in that somebody wanted to know
my mos in the military. I had five total, four
of which were in the single field, one of which
was combat engineer. So there's that for those that wanted

(48:29):
to know. For three, wasn't the ship born drone risk
brought up during the drone incident that took place in
New Jersey off the east coast. I recall it was
pointed at Iran having this so called ship and or
drones involved in the accusation during the previous administration. Yeah,
but I don't think it materialized in terms of what
it was capable of because no offensive action really occurred.

(48:49):
And then Sunday we saw what the capability of a
drone strike like that, a secret drone strike like that,
will do. And so I think that because of sich
You know, I think people that were thinking.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Forward saw that back last year.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I don't remember that was that November of last year
when they had all the drones up there in New Jersey.
I don't anyway, there were forward thinking people that at
that point in time saw the risk associated with it.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
But I don't believe that anybody.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I don't believe the majority of people had it sort
of crystallized in their mind the way they do after
Sunday and seeing the results of.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
An actual attack carried out there.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, we know about the signal flicker and intern out
guys that that's something they're working on. So for those
of you who've had issues with the signal, we're aware
of it and they're working on it. Five six six
nine zero Yeah. Twelve b also okay, yeah, twelve Bee
is combat engineer, so nine seven, good on you there.
I wanted to get into a problem that a fiscal problem,

(49:48):
an economic problem that I don't think has been discussed enough.
Something I've harped on a little bit on Facebook and
Twitter on my personal accounts. But and that is the
trip and dilemma, the Triffin paradox. And so for those
of you that uh don't know what that is the

(50:11):
best way I think to explain it is there was
a Belgian economist last name of Triffin, who back with
the United States, was working on Brenton Woods sort of
foresaw the idea of moving to petro dollars and then
moving moving off the gold standard of petro dollars and
moving to a global.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Reserve currency for any nation.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
A problem with that and and what that would be,
and that is that if you're going to be a
reserve currency, you almost inherently have to run trade deficits
because you have you have to provide the world with

(50:55):
liquidity with your dollar. And so the United States balance
of payment deficits during the nineteen fifties. That provided the
world with liquidity, but it also caused dollar reserves to
build up in the central banks of Europe and Japan,
and as those central banks redeemed those dollars for gold
because gold reserves dipped dangerously low, so eventually we switched

(51:18):
to petro dollars.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
The trivist dilemma.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
And when he was testifying before Congress in nineteen sixty,
Robert Triffin exposed a basically a fundamental problem with the
international monetary system. If the United States stop running balance
of payments deficits, the international community would lose its largest
source of additions to reserves. The resulting shortage liquidity could
pull the world economy in the contractionary spiral, eating instability.

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But if you has deficits continued, a steady stream of
dollars would continue to fuel world economic growth. However, excess
if US dollar deficits, a dollar glut would erode confidence
in the value of the US dollar. So without that
confidence in the dollar would no longer be accepted as
the world reserve currency. The fixed ex chainange rate system
could break down, leading to instability. Now, Triffan's proposed solution

(52:06):
was the creation of new reserve units, and these units
would not depend on gold to currency, but would add
to the world's total liquidity, creating a new reserve allowing
the United States to reserve to reduce its balance of
payments deficits while still allowing for global economic expansion. How
does that tie in now, Well, Donald Trump, who I

(52:28):
know is rand as a Republican, is not what you
would call a conservative. He's a populist, and populist policies
can hurt the perceived safety of US dollar assets as
they lead to higher inflation and larger fiscal deficits, foreign
investors can demand higher risk premium for holding his dollar
assets and the likelihood of major international sell off, you know,

(52:51):
increases to the policies that he has could lead to
higher inflations in larger fiscal deficits which stretch the modern
day trip and dilemma out. As a response to these policies,
foreign investors could start demanding higher risk premium for holding
on to dollar assets, which would likely translate into higher

(53:13):
US interest rates. The problem with that is you cannot
refinance debt, which is what we've been able to do.
As we get lower interest rates, we go back and
we refinance the debt at a lower interest rates, saving
our salves money. And that's why when you see people
talking about the long term bond market or the thirty
year market and rates going up, that is a bad

(53:35):
thing for the United States.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
We want rates down.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Trump wants rates down because we need to refinance the
debt that we have, and so America, the United States,
we have maintained a special hegemonic position in the international
monetary and financial system via the US dollars role as
a reserve currency. Basically, since it displays the British pound
back in the twenties. America's capital markets are world's deepest,

(54:00):
the most liquid. We have a liberalized financial system, which
makes it easy for foreign investors to purchase and sell US
dollar assets. Foreigners regard the US dollars a safe store
of value because of trust in America's rule of law
and ability to fulfill its responsibility for smooth management of
the international monetary system, including the FED swap lines, which
eight foreign banks and usd liquidity during times of severe

(54:24):
financial distress. Dollar assets comprise fifty eight percent of global reserves.
They've comprised half of world debt. Foreign trade offs invoices
are denominated in US dollars. In the nineteen sixties, French
finance minister Estang coined the phrase exorbitant privilege to describe

(54:45):
the benefits of accruing to America from having the world's
reserve currency, and they include lower cost of borrowing for
the US government, no exchange rate risk on US external liabilities,
reduced cost of imports for American consumers, and minimize risk
of US ballance of payments. The currency's ubiquity gives America
power over the global financial system, particularly in the form

(55:05):
of financial sanctions, and that brings us back to the
Triffin dilemma. Right, the persistent global demand for safe US
dollar assets feeds America's exorbitant privilege, but the quid pro
quo is America must let capital flow freely across its
borders and readily absorb these savings and current account deficits

(55:25):
in other countries. So back in fifty nine, Robert Triffin
predicted that the nascent US dollar gold standard was unsustainable
as we read because of the insurmountable dilemma. If America
stopped providing other countries with US dollars, global trade will stagnate,
and it tips the world into a contractionary spiral.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
If it continued, America's foreign liabilities would exceed its gold stock,
eroding confidence and eventually leading to a run on US gold.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Which leads to the Trifton dilemma.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
America still faces a modern era Triffon dilemma between satisfying
the increasing demand for safe US dollar apple sets by
the rest of the world and maintaining our own safety.
As the US share in the world's GDP continues to
trend down and global financial wealth outside the United States
continues to expand, will America's dollar assets still be deemed safe.

(56:15):
Highlighting this challenge is the widening gulf between US international
financial liabilities and assets, and there are signs that can
harm the perceived safety of usd assets should America's privilege
be exploited too far. And that's sort of the problem
we're running up against now. As we willy nilly change
these tariffs that are out there, which ultimately are attacks

(56:38):
on US consumer, don't get be started on that. But
the problem with that is is creating an instability. And
while President Trump is said he does not want to
remove the United States as the world's reserve currency, the
policies that he's rolling out continue to push us in
that general direction. America in the past past has accommodated

(57:01):
other countries to run current account surplus's trade deficits. It
has encouraged foreign central banks to purchase US dollars and
build up precautionary reserves to guard against the risk of
capital flight, and for large commodity explorers to recycle their
current account surpluses into safe US dollar assets. All this
contributes to US current account deficits, which Trump plans to

(57:22):
address through higher tariffs. Strong global demand for safe USD
assets can exert downward pressure on bond yields, or at
least allows the US to get away with less fiscal
discipline than other countries.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
We talked about this a second ago.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
America can exhort It can exercise its privilege at times
and crisis because the global flight to liquid USD assets
gives it more capacity to loosen its macroeconomic policies than
other countries.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Now, this comes at the.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Cost of adding more debt and breeding moral hazard in
the United States financial markets. But America has been increasing
financial sanctions against its foes. Trump's policies by defaul the
rest of the world comes in last in Trump's America
first air quotes policies, heightening the risk of America using
what we call exorbitant privilege and amplifying the modern day

(58:10):
triven dilemma. Trump's victory in the election awarded him a
pretty powerful mandate to overhaul America with populist policies, whether
for better or worse, punitive tariffs, crackdowns on immigration, fiscal
or jests, and possibly a confrontational, transactional foreign policy that
has little regard for the post World War II rules
of the international system. Trump's populist policies are likely to

(58:33):
lead to higher inflation and largeal fiscal deficits. If attempts
are made to suppress inflation through fiscal subsidies and price control,
the outcome would be even larger than those fiscal deficits.
So there's nothing sacro sect about the safety of US
dollar assets. And if the modern day driven dilemma continues
to stretch, we believe foreign investors could incoming years start

(58:55):
demanding a higher risk premium for holding US dollar assets.
Wich would translate to higher US interest rates, which is
bad for a litany of reasons. The chance of a
major international sell off of usd assets still kind.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Of seems remote, mostly for three reasons.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
First, America is starting from a position of strength in
terms of military might economic exceptionalism relative to the rest
of the world. Second, the FED operates from a place
of ironclad monetary policy independence. And lastly, there is no
viable alternative global reserve currency to the US dollar.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
And that third part is really I think.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
The sticking point, because as we have seen the rise
of things like, for instance, bitcoin, you could create a
stateless reserve currency, and then the US would not have
to buy necessity run trade deficits to provide the world
with liquidity for transactions. Now, we lose our exceptional privilege

(59:53):
in that case, but that is one solution. And if
we're continuing down this road to give up our place,
if trade deficits really are the thing that this president
wants to harp on, if these are the things that

(01:00:19):
he really wants to eliminate, and trade deficits in and
of themselves are not necessarily a bad thing. They actually
are a sign of a thriving economy. If you're buying
more than you're selling, you have enough to be able
to to hold that. But that's that's the thing that
concerns me. And if you if that sounds confusing, if

(01:00:40):
what I said, you know, we talked about drone attacks.
Now it sounds like I'm droning on. If that is,
if that's something that you didn't quite understand, read up
on the Triffin paradox, Because this is something that is
creating a problem. And he's sort of as I look
at and I come from a place where I am
assuming or having an assumption of good faith in what President.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Trump's trying to do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
The problem is that creates a sort of financial alchemy
that that, in the end is something that is not sustainable.
And now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio of its kind in a world.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Of the day.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Well done, I should be doing that part all the time. Well,
you know, here's the other one. So Mandy, if you
hear me, he also right, I will sign her this
twenty of.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Time, did not mess it up? Here we go. Yeah,
first off, dad, joke of the day.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
My friend recently quit his job to pursue a career
in miming.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Havn't heard from him since? Nice? Well done? Good.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Word of the day is a noun, and it is
opera that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Uh no, I'm not stalling it. No you're not, Mandy.
You don't get me there. Ap or apa.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Pp A r A t h I k operochick.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Is that having of or pertaining to apparitions. Yeah, that's
why I was no ghosts No, no, very good guess.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
It is used disapprovingly to refer to a blindly devoted official,
follower or member of an organization, such as a corporation
or political party.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Operochick. So we can use that in place of like culty. Yes,
there you go, Yes, indeed, well done.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Tricky question today?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
What method of food preservation was invented for the British
Navy in eighteen thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Eighteen?

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Yeah, it's a pretty pre most of any tech we've
got today. I mean it's like paint ice. No, like dry,
like drying out like ice. You're talking about curing. Yah,
that's not it. And no, not try it's canning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Oh canning before then? Not caam things? No eat it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Jeopardy category for today. How deep is your love? How deeps?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Jeez? Thank you? Is it first love?

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Like Jennifer Grays for Patrick Swayze in this classic?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
What is dirty dancing? That is correct?

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Does your fervor rigal Marios for this fruity princess? Y?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Ryan?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
What is super Mario? Brothers?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
No princess? What is princess Pete? That is correct?

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
So one you have one of zero?

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Yes, hopefully it's as deep as the love shown in
the twenty fourteen Budweiser ad about an adopted puppy who
bonds with one of these horses.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
I think Ryan barely. What does a Clydes deal? That
is correct? So is that one? Okay? Yeah, yeah to
your negative Okay, maybe a love that last is long
as that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Of this beatle whose wife Barbara Bach had been married
for almost forty years?

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Ben, Ben, who's George Harrison?

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Now it's like, who, well it only leaves Well, George
is dead, so that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Well I didn't I be like, I'm probably it's probably Paul, but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
It well, it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Would be the other who is ringos I had to
be afraid of. But I was like, so we're one
zero one. It's deep, like Nick's love for Jess on
this box sitcom.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Who wouldn't Ben? What is the new girl?

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
That is correct, which means we're back to a tie,
which means when you a tiebreaker? States by National Forest?
Oh god, oh boy, Sequoia National Forest?

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
What's state?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Good luck?

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
My dad? See what? My dad's a forester.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Go ahead, California and get the tom you deserved the tomb.
Hell ever, like my first heart like negatives l over
the Canadian bacon thing, and I'm still salty about it.
White Canadian bacon or ham, Well it's officially Canadian bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
You you were wrong. We discussed this, We did a
whole showing. Dude, maybe I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
You and I were texting about this later, like I
was still like this Sunday, and I'm like, I'm still
I'm dying on this show.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I know that I'm wrong now and I'm still dying
on this hill.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Good job today nine am to nine thirty, and then
back on after the Rockies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, Rossell showed and Madge shaw.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
I still got BCT coming up tonight, Nick and Grant
doing the heavy lifting on that show though so far
programming it tonight's I mean, as they normally do. I
was gonna say, what what makes the difference? You know,
they just put a microphone in front of me and
to hear say these things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
So dance Dance, Poppy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I mean, you had like three hours while the Rockies
played to prep for that. If I wanted to, Oh really,
I did you me busy man sales stuff? Oh okay,
three or three? Hi, Benjamin, glad to hear today from
your experience and your time in the military, different side
of you from your regular sports expertise. Long time listener Valerie, Well,

(01:06:05):
thank you, Valerie. I appreciate that the seven one to
nine has confused me for you. I believe saying Ryan,
it's been great to listen to you this afternoon. You
offer a different view than Ross and Mandy based on
your life's experience Sharks, thank you easily confused. Yeah, I
mean we basically look like we talked a little bit
about dad bods earlier. Two to one women say they
prefer the dad bod to a man that shredded.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
I still don't believe I don't take an ownership.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
I love it. I just I still refuse to believe
that I cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
For the life of me, approval is still at thirty percent. No,
just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
This is part of the country, and to me, I mean,
there's got to be some of the women here we're like,
there's a ah, a psychological component to it, like a
man that's that that might be high maintenance, so I
don't want to deal with that matter, those kinds of things.
So that may have been with it funy, and we
need to make sure we keep telling people that that's
what it is. Like the man that you're right, he's

(01:07:01):
comfortable I made Yeah, that's right, so he doesn't care
about you. Like My dating history though, suggests the opposite.
You know, when I was two years ago when I
was fat, you know, I wasn't getting the same same
looks I'm sort of getting, you know now, and so
to me it, I mean, it didn't help that you
were carried around a McDonald's bag with you everywhere. Look,
I was comfortable in my own skin, obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
That's what. What do you got coming up on kaoy
Sports today?

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
All sorts of fun stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Orlando Franklin's the studio. We'll chat with big.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Oh, we've got the JK. Dobbins news. The Broncos are
bringing him in to talk to him tonight. Yeah, we've
talked about that KAOY Sports and on BCT talked about
the idea of adding a veteran running back and Nick Chubb, JK.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Dobbins one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
So they'll get a chance to sit down and talk
with the coaches and that they're gonna feel him out,
see if he's the guy they believe to be the
veteran voice in that room. Good for the Broncos. So
looking for it, looking forward to it, looking forward to you,
looking forward to uh, we said Orlando Orlando Franklin in studio.
I appreciate you guys sitting in and suffering through me
talking on Mandy Connall's show Here Today, Ross Show as well.

(01:08:01):
Looking forward to coming back on Here tonight at six o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Talking about Bronco stuff on BCT, but can't weit Sports
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