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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is Deborah Flora sitting in for my friend me Andy Connell.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm just kind of a redheaded version.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
People have even said that we were or Mandy says
we're sisters from another mister, So there we go. Don't
know how that really worked out or how to explain
it other than I am happy to be here with
you and happy to have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It was great to be with you all yesterday, and
I got to tell.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You sometimes I actually can be more light and fun.
But with everything going on in our country, I got
to tell you there's a lot of serious stuff to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
If you missed the show yesterday, we.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Had some great conversations about what actually is the role
of government. When is it okay for standing up for something,
to become violent about.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It, Is that ever okay? We talked about a lot
of that, and we're.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Going to continue some of those conversations today.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But we've also got some very, very.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Very meaningful guests that will be joining us in the
two o'clock hour. Please make sure that you stay with us.
We're going to be joined by one of the many
mothers of the hostages from the October seventh atrocity that
happened with a Hamas attack in Gaza Strip and then
going into Israel.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And now I say she's a hostage mom.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Her son was actually murdered at the Supernova Film Music Festival,
but his body is still being held. And this amazing
guest who's going to be joining us Islett Samarano.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
She's going to talk about her. She's been testifying. A
friend of the UN. She has been talking to world.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Leaders because, by the way, on footage, the person who
dragged her son's body into a white suv and took
it into Gaza Strip where it's still being held, was
hired by the UN. So we're going to talk about
that with UNWR or UNRA, that is who that individual was.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And there's over fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That the UN itself had, as said and others have
verified of UN workers people hired by the UN, particularly
in that region, that are have known ties with Hamas
and other terrorist organizations. Don't get me started, although that's
what an entire radio shows about about the UN. Honestly,
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they lost my trust when they put Iran on the
Women's Rights Council, Iran who still stones women and supports
regimes like the Taliban that stone women when they slip
and their burkas shows their ankles. So a lot wrong
with the un started for a good purpose. But anyway,
we're gonna have the human story with Isolett Samarano joining
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us at two o'clock and at one thirty we're gonna
be joined by Congressman Jeff Crank. I was in DC
last week. My husband and I were both there, had an.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Opportunity to meet with the Congressman and talk a lot
about our nation and Colorado.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So he's going to be joining us at one thirty
to talk about several things, including the fact that a
third Chinese national was arrested for some kind of bio
terrorism organism. Believe it or not, this person was a
PhD student with a Wuan lab So there you go.
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All comes full circle. But let's get to one of
the top stories of the day. As we know, the
LA riots is kind of permeate everything.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yesterday there were protests at the Aurora Ice Facility.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
From everything I've seen, it was peaceful and kudos to
those who came and peacely protested. I'm all from making
your voice heard, just not destroying public property or throwing
molotov cocktails at police officers, which is what has happened
in LA. I want to talk a little bit about
that because more things are coming to light, as many
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people know, and we just heard.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
In the news.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
In addition to the National Guard that was sent over
the weekend, seven hundred Marine troops were sent from California's
base at twenty nine Palms.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And just to be.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Clear, because there's a lot of misinformation out there, those
troops were sent to protect federal government staff and assets.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That is a very.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Correct position for military troops to take because, by the way,
those federal facilities were not being protected either by the
LA mayor or by Governor Gavin Newsom. From reports from
the military, that will not actually be any interaction between
the Marines and the protesters.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But man, every time somebody wants to.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Say that this is a simply an issue because ice
came in and there are federal thories that came in,
tell that to the LAPD officers who made fifty arrests
probably more by now, of people who were literally throwing
molotail cocktails at them. Fifty arrests for attempted murder and
many other things. So this is something where it's pretty
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much just dis order and lawlessness. And I got to say,
you know, we had an interesting conversation yesterday about with
lots of texts coming in, when is it okay to
be violent in protesting. That's actually, by the way, not
pro testing at that point in time, it's rioting.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And if we are not a nation of law and order,
there were.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Not really a nation at all, because what defines the
nation the laws that the people have enabled their representatives
to put into place.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Really, that is what makes us a nation.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
We're not a nation, by the way, just because of
a land mass, just because.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Of the people group.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And by the way, I'm a pretty big fan of
this nation. And the reason why is because this nation
is one that was uniquely founded on an idea. Margaret
Thatcher's talked about that and many others have found about it.
Many other nations were founded on shared history, or a
land mass or all of that. America was founded uniquely
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on the idea that every individual's created with intrinsic value,
therefore inalienable rights, not given by government, but protected by
government and the constitution and our laws, and government has
only one job to protect the rights and the security
of its citizens, not to tell them what to do
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in their private lives, but really just.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
To make it so that we can have a civil society.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Civilization, by the way, even comes from the word civil.
Now that doesn't mean that we can't get passionate. I
certainly got passionate when I was leaving the Holocaust Museum
and our last visit in DC this week and saw
protesters outside trying to make some kind of moral equivalency
between the atrocities that Hamas has actually perpetrated, not Israel
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Hamas by using civilians as shields.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So yes, I got passionate about that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But when you step over that line, it becomes a riot.
And by the way, what I think is really really
troubling about the current riots that we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
The people who are.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Rioting saying that they want to be here in the
United States of America and don't want to be sent
back to Mexico, are flying a Mexican flag a foreign
flag as they are attacking law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
That is troubling to say the least. So here's the reality.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And oh, by the way, love seving these these texts
that are coming in. Feel free to text at five
sixty six nine zero. Love hearing your text, even if
we don't agree. I'm a huge fan of the First
Amendment and all the amendments and the Constitution and the Declaration,
which means we don't have to disagree. Disagreement is not hate.
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Disagreement is healthy dialogue. And when it is shut down,
by the way, when it is shut down, we have.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The beginning of the end.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
To be honest, and that's a lot of what we're
talking about here, So please text it in five six
six nine zero one person. When I was commenting on
my statement at Iran stone for revealing an ankle, does Iran.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Have strip bars?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
By the way, let me just take that a step
further interesting point when Iran says it does not have
any people of the LGBTQ community living there, Well, that's
because they're either all hiding their life style and their
choices or they have been killed. So yes, that is
very interesting, particularly when you see people the LGBTQ community,
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not everyone, but those that sometimes fly that flag protesting against.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Let's say Israel.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
By the way, Israel the only democratically elected government in
that entire region where people from every faith group have
lived in peace. Previously, on other radio shows, I've had
Muslims calling in from Jerusalem during the bombings that were
happening from the I ran back to Moss saying, this.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Is one of the few places where everyone can live.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
In peace, including those who are of the LGBTQ community.
So anyway, there's a lot of different comments coming in,
which are all good. Deborah's nice hearing you love the
Mandy and deb show. Thank you so much. That is
another one of our little side things that we do,
which is a whole lot of fun. Let's see, California
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doesn't want to follow the same laws as our nation.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Great point.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's something that Congressman Jeff Crank is going to talk
about when he joins.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
At the show.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
At one point thirty he had a X statement Twitter
statement that basically said, when Governor Nussa and the Mayor
Bass of La reach out for federal funds to rebuild
their city, they're going to have to justify why they
let it be burned in the first place. So, by
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the way, two thumbs up, you go. Girl, could not
say any better. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
That's very kind. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Okay, let's continue with what's happening. So seven hundred marines
and thank you to someone who made sure I said Marines,
because I do know that is a very respected and
unique way to refer to members of our military.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And by the way, shout.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Out to everyone who serves. I grew up on Lowry
Air Force Base. My dad's a Lieutenant Carl in the
Air Force. I've got many other family members. My husband
was an eighty second Airborne veteran, and so yes, indeed,
it's important that we treat them with respect.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So let's talk about this.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
The last time the Marines were deployed to quell civil
unrest in LA was during the nineteen nine two La riots.
I find that interesting. I'm completely dating myself, but I
was in LA at the time temporary insanity, leaving my
home state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And I remember, I remember the fear that took over
that city as they shut down the.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
One oh one freeway. And I was talking about this yesterday.
I think one of the things that is so sad
to me is who is the greatest damage being done
to Whether it was right after the Rodney King verdict
in in nineteen ninety two, what there was in the
burning summer of twenty twenty, after the George Floyd incident,
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the very people that these rioters are saying that they're
standing up for most of the damage of this kind
of vandalism. Destruction happens to inner city of families, minority populations,
to business owners in those communities, and then they have
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to rebuild again.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think it's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I had Rich Circle on the show with me yesterday
and he talked about a beautiful phrase that is used
in the Jewish faith, and the idea is that God
created the Jewish people, and I believe He created each
one of us, and I'm a Christian person, I consider
it to be a continuation of the Jewish faith. He
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created himself for a reason. And there's a phrase in
a Jewish faith that I just learned yesterday to kun Olam,
and it's the charge to every single one of us
to quote unquote repair the world.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Not that really we're able to do it in of ourselves,
because ultimately, I think only God can do that. But
we are not off the hook for addressing injustice where
we see it.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
There's a lot of injustice in the world, real injustice,
true in justice.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And true suffering. But before we act, we are.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Responsible for pausing long enough to look at what the
real cause is.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
What's the real cause.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Like when I was leaving the Holocaust Museum and there
were people out there holding up a picture of a
poor Palestinian child who was bleeding.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
My heart breaks for that child and every one of.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Those Palestinian civilians that had been absolutely terrorized.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yep, we can.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Agree on that, but let's pause long enough to see
why it happened, because we cannot address an injustice until
we look at why it really happened.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Why did that happen.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
There's a great phrase that Israel uses rockets to protect.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Its civilians and how mass uses civilians.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
To protect its rockets, which is true. All of the
aid that has been going to the Gaza Strip over
the last several years has been used not for hospitals,
not for businesses, not for humanitarian aid.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It has been used by Hamas who yes was elected.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And then began to abuse its power to build underground tunnels,
under hospitals, under schools so that they could use humans,
civilians as their shields.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So when we take a moment to figure.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Out what the cause of the injustice is, then I
really think we can come together.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I find it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Interesting because when I was reading about the protest yesterday,
and like I said, credit to those who were protesting
yesterday in front of the Aurora Ice Facility. From everything
I've read, it was peaceful and that's great. But here's
a quote from someone who was there, and this is
reported on CBS News. Colorado is not going to accept this.
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We stand with California. That says a lot. We stand
with the citizens who are saying they're not going to
be pushed around or silenced. Hey, I'm all for but
if you're talking about deporting those who are here illegally,
that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
This is the kind of critical turning point in.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
History that people look back and ask, why didn't you
do something?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I think that's a.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Great question for every single one of us to ask.
But I would posit this theory with a nine hundred
percent increase in anti semitism in the last ten years,
as reported by the Anti Defamation League, hardly considered to
be conservative, you know, they're pretty much reporting on all
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kinds of things. The Anti Defamation League nearly nine hundred
percent increase right here in Colorado, one of the largest
increases of anti Semitic acts.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
How about you.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Ask yourself, what am I doing today in the face
of the terrorism that is beginning to foment even more
in our country against our Jewish fellow citizens. How about
joining the run for their lives, to stand up against
the atrocity that happened up in Boulder when molotov cocktails
were thrown.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
How about standing up with.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
The LAPD officers who are just trying to keep the
destruction from happening and are having molotov cocktails being thrown
at them. I don't know, to me, that seems something
worthy of standing up against five six six nine zero.
A couple more details I want to share about that,
and we'll we'll follow the money when we come back
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from this break. But when you look at the chaos
that is going on right now, we have to kind
of ask how did it start?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And I do believe words have power. I believe it.
I do, and I will tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I will stand up with you, and I will not
speak in any vilifying manner of any people group, whether
I agree with them or not, because individuals should not
be vilified. Ideas can be pointed out to be dangerous.
But let's just remember what led up to what's going
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on right now. House Democrats started immie at an ice
facility in Newark.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Just one month ago.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What does that say when they're pushing their way through
and shoving their way through. Gavin Newsom and Mayor Karen
Bass refused to intervene to protect law enforcement officers when
they came under attack. And by the way, we have
people like Kitkeem Jeffries, Mayor WU of Boston and Waltz
Mayor Baths of Los Angeles contributing to these assaults by
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saying things like this, comparing those charged with protecting citizens
federal facilities opening up the freeways again, calling them and
referring to them as brown shirts, while glorifying the rioters
who are actually causing physical damage. No about you, but
I don't think that's sending the right message. Five six
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six nine zero five six six nine zero.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We're going to follow the money when we come back,
because it's interesting to see where the funding is actually
coming from for what is actually happening in LA.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's as old as Burnstein.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
When they had all the president's men follow the money.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We're going to do that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And I want to hear from you five six six
nine zero, Deppah Flora's sitting in for Mandy Connell. Deborah
Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell. Lots of texts coming in.
Appreciate the lively dialogue. Five six six nine zero. That's
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five six six nine zero. Will usually I jump around more.
But we know the biggest stories of our day right
now have to do with deeper issues than just riots
in la or protests here, or or even the Boulder
horrific molotile anti Semitic terrorist act that happened. They have
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to do with some of the issues that are the
very basis of our Western civilization model. And by the way,
civil is a key to civilization, does not mean, by
the way, that we can't have spirited debate that we
can't be willing to stand up. In fact, I encourage
everybody to stand up for what you believe in, but
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also make sure that you get to the root cause
of what is causing this suffering that you are upset about.
I got to tell you, I get worn out sometimes
because I see so much suffering in the world, and
I'm always looking at it.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But we've got to take a pause to see what's
causing it.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's going to lead me to a question I'm going
to ask you before the break, and you can go
ahead and start texting you right now.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
My question is.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Going to be, and you'll understand when I lead up
to this, where do you get your information from? And
I'm generally asking that very curious, what news channels, what sources?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Where do you go to? And I can say that
I actually make sure I get.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Alerts from many different publications from every perspective, CNN and Fox,
Washington Post and Washington Examiner, Epic Times, MSNBC, because I
want to see what different groups are saying now before
I ask this question, and I am going to put
a roun on the spot, but I want to tell
you why I think that is important.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
What's happening in LA right now, and let's follow the money,
shall we.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
We've already talked about.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
How Gavin Newsom and La Mayor Bass have not only
not done anything to stop the attacks even on their
own LAPD as well as federal law enforcement, but on
top of it, they've actually been vilifying law enforcement and
glorifying those who are burning things while flying a flag
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from another country. That to me, is disturb I don't
care whether you're left or right, Republican or Democrat.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's something we should be able to talk about. But
let's talk.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
About something that led me to a very interesting interaction.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Shall we call it Okay, let's follow the money behind
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And by the way, I shared this yesterday, I was
at a press conference for the Supreme Court steps last Tuesday.
It was for the Pierce Decision one hundredth anniversary that
supports parental rights as well as school choice.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
There was one loan protester. We were there with the
Secretary of Education.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Linda McMahon and others, and there's one loan protester who
all that this person could say was fffff over and
over again, to which point time my mom instinct kicked
into place and I wanted to go and just put
this person in a time out, because healthy dialogue is great.
Just swearing as a childish act.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But when we went up to this.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Protester, somebody offered them like three hundred dollars to just
be quiet for a little while. And you know what
their protest said, Oh, I'm getting paid a lot more
money than that to be standing here trying.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
To disrupt you.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Okay, so let's follow the money, shall we. Let's follow
the money.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, here we go.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Behind the riot's happening right in LA. One major group
is called the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights. Are called
CHURLA c h I r LA. I'm gonna say churrleve
because I don't know how to say it, but the
Coalition for Human Immigrant Rights. Let's look at where the
money comes from.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
This group. They're one of the key players in fomenting.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
What is a violent riot that is happening right now,
despite what some folks would like to say. They're in
LA based nonprofit with a history of taking radical.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Positions on immigration.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It led to the twenty eighteen campaign to completely abolish ICE.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I think with what we're seeing with the terrorist in
Boulder who overstayed.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
His visa, when we look at the Chinese nationals who
were just arrested for trying to bring bioterrorism organisms into
the United States, I think ICE is pretty valuable at
this point in time, to say the least. But they
try to lead to the abolishment of it.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, you look at the records.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
The financial records of the organization that is predominantly behind
the LA riots and guess what, not only.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Do they have strong ties to them the Democrat.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Party and have supported the election of many Democrat candidates,
including a close relationship with LA Mayor Karen Bass.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And let's just give a quick background on Karen Bass.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
She's a fan of Castro, worked in Cuba in the
nineteen seventies when La was burning. Recently, remember those fires,
different kind of fires.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
But happening. She was actually not even there.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
She was in Ghana for the Socialist president's inauguration. Okay,
where does the money come from for this organization that
is funding the riots? Well, not surprisingly, ninety six percent
of its fund comes from the state government of California.
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The state government of California is funding the organization that
is currently causing the burning of much of California.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, La, but it's one of the major cities. When
you look at that, you have to pause and say, Okay,
that doesn't make sense to me. By the way, if
you know anyone in.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
LA, I suggest you share this with them, because a
money trail never lies, and they're paying taxes to the
very government that is funding the ninety six percent of
the budget for the organization that is currently behind the
destruction that's happening and the targeting of the LAPD. So
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there you go. Now when we look at what's going on,
this is going to lead me to my question about
where do you get your news? Would love to hear
that tex into five sixty six nine zero. So what
is next when we're looking at these protests that are
you know, in some ways growing. There was one here yesterday.
We'll see what happens. Well, there's a new one planned
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for June fourteenth, and that, by the way, June fourteenth,
if you know that date, it is Flag Day.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It is Flag Day.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That is a day in the United States of America
where we honor the flag.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
That represents our union.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's hopefully going to continue to be a union of
citizens of goodwill who understand there's something bigger that unites us.
And when we were in DC last week went to
see the Star Spangled banner and the Smithsonian once again
that flew over Fort McHenry that inspired those words about
you know that became our national anthem.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And by the way, the end of the national anthem
is a question does it still wave? That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Right when flags are being flown over some of these
riots that are not the American flag.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But what else is June fourteenth?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's going to be the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
of the US Army. You know what lovesmack among the
different branches. But I'm partial to the Army because my
husband is a eighty second Airborne Army veteran, but he
used to smack talk with.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
My dad was a lieutenant girl in the Air Force.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Appreciate everyone who serves or has served our nation. What's
being planned on June fourteenth? All over the United States?
There's an organization called No Kings, the No Kings organization,
and it's protesting, saying that Trump has become a monarch.
We can look at that, you know, in a bit.
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But they're planning instead, and here's what they say.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
On their announcement. Instead of.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Honoring the military that day, they say this, the widespread
movement will run counter to military parade in DC. And
why because they're saying that the current administration has defied
our courts, deported Americans, disappeared.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
People up the streets, attacked our civil rights, and slashed
our services. So they're going to counter.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
A day that's supposed to be for the United States Flag,
which is a sign of unity, the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary of our army, to instead co op that
day for something else, just I would just respectfully ask
them to pick a different day. It's fine protest, but
pick a different day. But here's what I find really
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interesting about it. There is someone I know in LA
who actually we had an interchange on social media, and
actually not an interchange because she never responded. She literally said,
there is absolutely nothing happening in LA. There are zero riots,
nothing's happening. When I shared the USA Today report quoting
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the LAPD Police chief and asked, is this not true,
the LAPD police chief said that they had arrested fifty people,
including those who had tempted murdering LAPD officers no respect.
I think I am most disturbed by this by realizing
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there are fellow citizens in our country that I actually
believe nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Is happening in Los Angeles. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So my question is this, where do you get your news?
Are you willing to look at it from many different sides?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Because if this person.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Who I know, who is an intelligent individual, truly believes
and she is in LA, truly believes there are no
riots going on and will not respond to report From
the LAPD's own statement, We're at a difficult position in
our republic because if we cannot even agree that there
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is something factually occurring, how can.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
We begin to discuss how to address it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So this is my question for you. We're heading to
a break five six six nine zero. Where do you
get your information? I doesn't matter to me if you're
left or right, Republican Democrat. Where do you get your information?
And are you willing to open up that spirit even
further to make sure you're getting the full picture?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And when we come back, I want to read some
of the answers and I'll put a rout on the
spot for this too. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Debrah Flora is sitting in for Mandy Connell five six
six nine zero, texting in at five six six nine zero.
That's five six six nine zero. Over Archingly, what we're
talking about is how do we continue with this civil society?
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I mean, we are Western civilization, civil being in the word,
and part.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Of it has to do with the ability to stand
up for what we believe in.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I am all for that, and it doesn't have to
be the same issues that I care about at all,
But we have to do it in an informed and
productive manner. That's why I am not a fan of rioting,
because that's not protesting. Especially when you see rioters begin
to loot, you have to begin to realize what are
they really there for, and by the way, they're frequently
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damaging and hurting the very people they say they're standing
up for. But even more so, if we are going
to be able to stand up where each one of
us uniquely sees suffering or injustice, it has to be
hopefully an informed way of looking at what the actual causes.
But we can't do that if we can't even agree
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on the facts.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The question that started.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
This was my interaction with someone I know who lives
in LA who literally said on her social media that
there is no rioting going on, that nothing is happening
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Literally said that.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And when I shared a factual information not from a
right landing source but from USA Today, quoting the statement
by the l l APD citing over fifty arrests as
of the times, probably more now, including for attempted murder
of a police officer, no response. So my question to
the break was where do you get your information? Because
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I get it from personally a lot of different sources,
from both sides of the aisle, so I can make
sure I'm staying informed and I'm not missing something. Don't
agree with all the you know, all the kind of
interpretations that maybe a publication has. We unfortunately have to
glean through a lot of it now because much of
it is actually now people's opinion. But I want to
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always make sure I'm not missing anything. So I get
alerts from, you know, from MSNBC and I'm from Fox News.
I get it from Washington Post and Washington Examiner, and
I got to tell you, I never get an alert
from what you call left of center publication that I
don't also get from a right of center publication. But
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frequently I get one from a right of center publication
that I don't get from let's say, MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
An interesting exercise, but.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
The question is where do we get our information? So
I'm going to put a ron on the spot first,
a rod where do you get your information?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
In six and a half minutes with our news at
the top of the hour right here on KOA Love.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Have do your job well done?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Way to promote it and a lot of the Texters
are saying KOA, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I also get push alerts for various publications. I mean,
Fox News, CNN, pretty much across the board. I've got
a lot of different outlets that I'll give me my
push alerts.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Here you go, non cop out edition. So I appreciate
both of those.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
A Rod Well, that's what I'm hearing from a lot
of folks.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
From KOA, from KDVR, from Fox News. I'm hearing people
who say, a great question, I get it from Wall
Street Journal.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'll see it from the Wall Street Journal myself.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Someone said, radio, newspaper, television, and a variety of internet sites.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That's great. I actually don't watch much news anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I tend to just listen because I'm excuse me to
tend to just read, because I really don't want people's interpretation.
Somebody else said only pod save America. I would encourage
that listener listen to a few other sources, because no
one source really should be trusted with everything. So heading
to a break, glad you're listening to this source, and
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then you're about to listen to KOA News.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
When we come back, we're in have a great show.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I'm going to give a shout out to Congressman Gave Evans,
and at one point thirty we'll have Congressman Jeff Crank
joining me, So don't go anywhere. Debra Flora is sitting
in for Mandy Connell. Feel free to text in at
any time. Five six six nine zero. That's five sixty
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six nine zero.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Coming up.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
At one point thirty, we are going to have Congressman
Jeff Crank from Klora's fifth Congressional district joining us to
talk about what's going on Colorado and in our country.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And then you'll definitely want to stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
At two p we are going to have an amazing, moving,
perhaps heartmanding interview with a woman who her son was
killed on October seventeenth. Her son was at the Supernova
Music Festival when Hamas brutally attacked Israel, and she's going
to talk about why she is finding to get his
body back. It's still been held about six hundred and
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twelve days later, and her stand around the world and
particularly with UN because one of those who dragged her
son's body into an suv was a UN worker. We're
going to talk about that because it's important to look
at the facts as if we've been talking about all show,
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and one of the things that's kind of the through
line today, there seems to be a through line as
we kind of as I work to put some of
these notes together today, it's about follow the money. Unfortunately,
today we do not have the president's men like Woodward
and Bernstein following a trail and getting to the bottom
of it.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And so we're following the money.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
We were talking about the riots in LA following the
money to an organization that got ninety six percent of
its funding from the California government that is now fomenting
burning down things in California. That's problematic to me, whether
you are left or right. That's kind of a shady dealing.
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One of the things coming up is this no Kings
protest that's going to happen on June fourteenth, which, by
the way, I'm instead going to be celebrating Flag Day
and the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Army,
which I think is really worth honoring and celebrating.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
But what are they protesting.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
One of the things they're protesting is quote unquote cutting
our benefits.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
So part of this protest that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
They're going to have is because they don't like the
fact that we're cutting government spending. How about we could
all stand together to trim down the nearly thirty seven
trillion dollars of debt that is immoral that we're going
to be putting on the backs of our children. Well,
when you look at where some of that money is going,
let's follow the money for instance.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know, when you look at some of the craziest things,
by the way that our tax dollars, your.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
And mind money has been going to one of the
ones you just can't make up.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
There was a lot of money. I'm just using this
as an example.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
There's a lot of crazy ones put towards a steady.
To find out how fish feel about climate change, my
first question is always this, what was the methodology?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
How do you figure out how EFFIICI is feeling? My
guess would be if you talk to it about.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Climate change and then you look at it and after
a certain amount of time, it's belly up. Maybe it
wasn't happy about it, but that's the kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Now, there's some good uses of our tax dollars.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
There's definitely a purpose for government spending, and by the way.
It really is just to protect our rights and our safety,
and that enclodes our infrastructure. A lot of that'sn't happening,
while some other crazy stuff is.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
But let's follow the.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Money in the case, for instance, of the CDC.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
So Robert F.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Kennedy Junior, now the Secretary of Health and Human Services,
here's an interestring report to me, it doesn't matter left
or right. These are issues that I think we should
just all kind of be willing to look at if
we had journalists following the money. Here's an interesting story
right now, RFKA Juniors removing all seventeen members of an
agency within the CDC that is an advisory panel on vaccines. Now,
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let me just be really clear. I'm not anti vaccine.
I am grateful that our children were able to be
vaccinated against the momps and the measles and all of that.
There are others that are more questionable, but let's just
look at the money issue here. Those seventeen members, many
of them. It was found out, by the way, in
a study all the way back to two thousand, there
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was a study by the House that showed that conflict
of interest rules were weak to non existence, meaning many
members of this committee to rule on vaccines were actually
promoting big pharma companies that they stand stood to gain
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financially from. I've served on a lot of national boards.
I've had to sign these kind of conflict of interests.
If there was ever anything, I've recused myself whenever there's
been something that's in that arena that's not okay. I
don't care if you're left or right. We should not
have people advising the American people on vaccines are getting
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paid and making money off of big pharma. One of
the people who called this two attention was Robert Redfield.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
He's the ex director of.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
The CDC, the Center for Disease Control, who during COVID,
by the way, and I would talk about this when
there was a shutdown during COVID of schools and I
was with a lot of moms and dads who were,
you know, protests, because I'm all for protesting in the
right civil manner to get our schools back open. And
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Robert Redfield at the time said that children were more
at risk from the flu than they were from COVID
and there was no reason to shut schools. He ended
up leaving that position in January twenty twenty one, but
he has talked about since then that quote. Many officials
who tried to warn the public about potential problems with
COVID nineteen vaccines were pressured into silence, and it's high
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time to admit that there were significant.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Side effects that made people sick.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Now, he did recommend it for those over sixty sixty five,
which makes sense. That's how we've dealt with every other
pandemic before in our country's history.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But following the money is important.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Here's one more example I'm going to give you before
we switched to the whole autopen thinging hanging in there.
Follow the money that was follow the money in the CDC.
This has followed the money to China. We're going to
talk at one thirty with Congressman Jeff Crank, who made
a great tweet about the recent arrest.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
There was a third now recently of a.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Chinese national for smuggling biological materials into the US.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
By the way, the.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Person who was just arrested, let's follow the money where
this person came from. There were two previously, just so
we were all aware, who were arrested. One was sent
back to China, which the boyfriend of the woman who's
still arrested. She tried to smuggle biological pathogens into the
US that were characterized as agro.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Terrorism, a whole new word. Our world is getting more
and more unusual word.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
A whole new vocabulary to go with it. So we
know about that arrest. This was a University of Michigan scholar.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
By the way, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Buckeye fan, so I have to take a little stab
at University Michigan for that. I'm not saying it's not
happening at Ohio State or where else. But those two
were arrested recently, well just I believe was yesterday was
announced another arrest of a Chinese national who sent.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Four smuggled four packages.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Into the United States was some kind of biological material.
Guess where this individual was funded through. Well, tracing it
all back to my previous comment about Robert Redfeld with
the CDC and the COVID vaccine on.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
This person who was just arrested, Chinese national was a
PhD student in Wuhan, China.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Now let's all remember why.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
We need to be big, huge fans of the ability
to ask questions. When people were asking questions when Robert
Redfeld said that he was being pressured.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
As the head of the CDC to not ask questions.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
What happened to everybody who pointed to the fact that
this was probably made in the Wuhan lab Oh shouted
down own conspiracy theorist. Well, many of those same publications
that we're calling people names for daring to question have
now admitted that that.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Is most likely.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
That's why free speech matters the most when perhaps we
don't agree with it, or perhaps it's not a popular opinion,
it maybe disproved to be you know, bunk, But maybe
it is important that we actually are able to ask
those questions.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Okay, I believe in asking questions and want to hear
from you.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Five sixty six nine zero five sixty six nine zero.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
But I got to move on to another thing. Autopen
auto pen.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Okay, when I mentioned autopen a couple weeks ago, once
again I was shouted down on social media for asking questions.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Because everybody said.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That that really everybody had used Autopen's previous presidents had
used autopens.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Nothing to see here, Well, time to investigate it, and
I that's important.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
So let's talk a little bit about the facts of autopens. Yes,
Obama used autopens. But guess what, it's really reported that
he used it twice in his entire presidency when he
was out of the country.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Trump has reported that he uses autopen for what he
calls superlative signatures like letters and other unofficial business.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
We've all seen those letters.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
We've probably received them that have a president signature or
politician signature. We know that's not actually their signature. But
for unofficial business. It is not unconstitutional the use of autopen,
but it does create a constitutional crisis when we look
at a volume, particularly with the timing of someone President Biden,
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former President Biden, who may not have had the mental
acuity when it began to be used. So let's look
at some facts about autopen and to hear from you.
Five six six nine zero five six six nine zero.
Do you care about the autopen. Do you think that's
a problem. Do you think it should be used more?
Do you think it's an issue? I want to hear
from you five six six nine zero. But let me
read you some facts that may either change or.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Maybe reinforce what you.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Think about autopens. A new report has just come out.
There's a washdog group called the Oversight Project and what
did they do, because I think methodology counts well. They
retrieved Biden presidential documents from the National Archives and they
looked them over, and they've released their first their first
findings on this study, and they found out that Biden
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used not one, not two, but actually three different autopen signatures,
or the Biden administration did.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
His administration had reported two before.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
But there's actually three different autopen signatures.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
That he's used. Begs the question why.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Well, some people said maybe it was because he different
chiefs of staff and different secretaries. Some others have said
maybe was to make it less noticeable that he was
using an autopen signature. But let's talk about the timing
and what they were used for.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Okay, autopen signatures.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
And by the way, I'm doing this work because we
do not have all the president's men following and tracing
this stuff necessarily, but I appreciate those who are actually
looking into it. There were at least well, there are
many times that the autopen was used for Biden while
he was actually in DC physically signing other documents. Begs
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the question why Obama did it? I think it was
twice when he was out of the country. Okay, I
can get that that's justifiable. It was used when he
was actually in DC, on days when he actually was
physically signing other documents. That causes the questions what about
the timing it began to increase the summer of twenty
twenty two?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
What else was happening.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
As Biden's presidency continued on greater and greater signs that
his mental acuity was in question? And almost all of
the executive orders issued during Biden's final stretch and office
during January twenty twenty five, almost all of them were
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auto pen signed. By the way, executive orders are very
different even than pardons that we'll talk about that executive
orders really, in many ways could be considered the.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Very power of the presidency.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Whether you think they're overused, underused, use the right amount
of times. When an autopen is used for executive order,
I think it bears a whole lot of extra scrutiny.
Almost all of the executive orders during Biden's last month
in office in January twenty twenty five were autopen signed
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or The examples of those executive orders in executive order
to protect abortion, an executive order to adjust pay for
government offices. While look more into that ran out of time.
Were people helping autosign something so they got paid more?
I don't know, but really it's time to get back
to journalism so we can find out. Let's talk about
the pardons that happened that were auto signed. The ones
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that were auto signed in his final stretch were preemptive
pardons for doctor Fauci, General Mark Millie, who by the way,
never was held responsible for the debacle under his leadership
in Afghanistan. He was preemptively pardoned with an auto signature,
Adam Schiff, and Biden family members auto pen in his
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final days. The only one that is verifiable of his
family members that he actually signed was a one for
his son Hunter, which protected him from prosecution for possible
crimes for an eleven year period. But the others Fauci, Millie,
Adam Schiff, Biden family members all autopen. Here's one also
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that begs some examination. In the final pardons, auto pen
signatures were used to commute the sentences. Thirty seven out
of forty of those commuting of sentences were to death
row inmates, some convicted of killing children and police officers.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
But I think that's problematic five sixty six nine zero.
Do you think that is a problem to use an autopen?
Do you think autopen should be banned going forward except
for in unique circumstances. And what's next in this examination, Well,
they're going to be asking for logs, because there should
be logs who had access to this auto pen signature.
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The House Oversight Committee, led by Chairman James Ohm Comer,
has made this a focal point of a congressional investigation,
and Comer said he plans to the poena the following
people because honestly, we got to know how long have
we all wondered, by the way, when Biden would be
escorted down to a press conference, and when the commander
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in chief, the leader of the free world, would get
up at a press conference and say things like, well,
they told me not to answer any more questions. They
told me only to answer these questions.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
And by the way, what I'm sharing is me no joy.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
And the reality is, if this was a Republican president,
I had the same deep constitutional concern that I have
when the leader of the free world is on camera
telling us that they told him what he could and
could not do.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Who were the they? Who are the they. I've always
wanted to know who they are.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
When you know parents would say, well, they say you
need to finish your vegetables.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
But anyway, this is a really serious they.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I'd want to know this no matter who this was about. Well,
they're going to be looking into comer plans on looking
into and subpoenaing the former Biden aids who were basically
his handlers. This is from people inside the administration and
ran interference for Joe Biden. They're going to subpoena former
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aides Annie Thomasini, Anthony Bernel, and Ashley Williams to find
out who was operating the power of the presidency with
executive orders by auto penn. I think that is an
important situation, particularly.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
When you look at a.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Lessening mental acuity test. Here's another question for you. Do
you think we should have age limits for people that
are in elected office and also Supreme Court or do
you think we should have mental acuity tests? Personally, I
would go with mental acuity tests.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
And here why.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I'm blessed to know that my husband's grandfather lived to
be one hundred and four years old. When I met him,
he was doing lapse around his house with a walker,
and he was so sharp as attack until about one
hundred and two. Now that might be too old for
an elected office, but there is a very different ability
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to people that has nothing to do with age, but
has to do with mental acuity. I think that's something
that we should all ask for, no.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Matter who is in office. A couple of.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Techs coming in and then we're going to head to
the break auto pen only for non official purposes.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Agreed with that listener, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Somebody else said, I'm willing to bet that this was
doctor Jill or other staffers. There will also be a
log of every significant signature with computer idea and location
of computer used.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
I certainly hope.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
So, I think that's going to be something to watch.
Will the logs be available? Honestly, we talked about the
missing however many minutes of the Watergate tapes. We better
know that there are logs knowing who had access and
who used the autopen. Well, we're heading to a break.
When we come back, we're going to have Congressman Jeff
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Crank with us, and we're going to talk about what's
going on in our country, what's going on in our state.
He had some very interesting revelations about what happened in Boulder.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
And the perpetrator of that horrific attack up there, So.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Don't go anywhere. When we come back, Congressman Jeff Crank
will be joining me. I'm Deborah Flora, sitting in for
Mandy Connell.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Feel free to.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Text in at five sixty six nine zero. We've been
having some awesome dialogue here. Well, I'm so honored to
introduce our guests joining us today from DC Congressman Jeff
Crank from Kolora's fifth congressional district.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Jeff, thank you so much for joining us today. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
Deborah, It's great to be with you. You're doing it
all awesome jobasan for.
Speaker 5 (53:01):
A little bit, of course, I would expect nothing less
from you.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Well, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Coming from someone else who has been on the radio
a fair amount, I take that as a compliment. It
was great to see you in person last week in DC,
and thanks for joining us today. There's so much going
on and I just want to jump right into it.
I appreciate you, know, your leadership both in our state
and in our country, and you posted something on X
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on Twitter that I think a lot of people need
to know, and it was about the Boulder terrorist suspect
Mohammed Sabrey Solomon, and about what happens in states like.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Colorado where there is a little leeway.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Shall we say, with those who may not be here legally,
can you talk about what happened versus his visa and
a driver's license?
Speaker 5 (53:50):
Yeah, sure, Debra.
Speaker 4 (53:52):
So the assailant was here.
Speaker 5 (53:56):
On a visa, had a visa here to be in
the United States, that visa expired, and then.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
After it expired, over a year after.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
It expired, the state of Colorado gave him a driver's
license right and issued him a driver's license. In addition
to that, we now know that he tried to buy
a handgun, and both.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
The police Colorado Beer of Investigation and the FBI under
Joe Biden knew that he was not a citizen because
he has denied.
Speaker 5 (54:32):
The purchase of a handgun. But they didn't do anything
with that information. They just said, oh, great, well, we
can't give him a gun. But they could have taken
that information and given it to Ice.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
Ice could have gone and got this guy and deported him,
and this whole thing never would have happened.
Speaker 5 (54:52):
He would had the opportunity to do this, So that's
the real crime of it.
Speaker 4 (54:56):
And you know the problem with this is it's a
breakdown of the rule of law when.
Speaker 5 (55:01):
Governments don't work together.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
And the example I use.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
I just I love going on right along with our
law enforcement, and some with the Colora Springs Police Department,
some with the al Paso County Sheriff's office. And you know,
when I'm out there with them, they're going along and
they see someone and they pull them over for an
expired tag, him a ticket. And the reason they're doing
that is because the State of Colorado needs their money.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
So you know, I sort of asked the.
Speaker 5 (55:32):
Question tongue in chic I guess.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
What would happen if to the State.
Speaker 5 (55:36):
Of Colorado, which doesn't seem to want to work with
our local law enforcement and certainly doesn't want to work
with ice. What would happen if the al Paso County
Sheriff or the of the Douglas County Sheriff or whatever
sheriff's office just decided, you know what, we don't want
to do that anymore. We're not the tax collectors for
the state of Colorado. We're just not going to do it.
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They wouldn't get their money, and government.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
Collapses, right, And that's what happens.
Speaker 5 (56:04):
When we have these sanctuary communities. I think they know
immigration better than the federal government, and you know, I
think the American people expect better than.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
That from the government.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Well, and we started the entire show talking about what
is a civilization if we do not have a set
of laws and a structure that define who we are,
what our values are. We've got I think the best
guidelines in the United States of America of any country.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
I do believe that.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
But the minute we begin to selectively choose which laws
we follow and which ones we don't, which ones are
government and forces, and which one it doesn't, this is
what happens and how Colorado goes from one of the
safest states to being I think it is the most
violent amongst the most populated cities in America, higher now
than Chicago.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Under these different policies that are going on. You know, Jeff,
I know, I know that it's divided.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
To say the least in the House of Representatives and DC,
but there's something I would have thought everybody could have
agreed to and represented. Gabe Evans of Colors New Eighth
Congressional District introduced a resolution condemning the Boulder attack, and
one hundred and thirteen Democrats voted against it simply because
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it outlined what you just shared, that this individual was
here illegally and if he'd been arrested, this never would
have happened.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Talk about that for a moment.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
First of all, good for Gabe for doing that, Congressman Evans,
But what.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Is the justification.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
What are conversations that you have with with those on
the other side of the.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Aisle about things like just condemning the Boulder attack.
Speaker 5 (57:39):
Yeah, well, yeah, I thought it was shameful, you know
that we even had this, had this fight and this
discussion on the House floor. There were at least three
resolutions that were presented. I was a co sponsor of
the one that Gabe Evans introduced. Great, thank you, Yeah,
you bet, And of course so I supported it as well,
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and it condemned the anti Semitic attack, and then it
also talked about the importance of local law enforcement working
with the federal government and others to coordinate our response.
And then the last thing it said was that, you know,
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it was it's it's important that Colorado's understand that we're
working together, the governments working together to solve this problem.
That's essentially what the resolution said.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
I don't know how.
Speaker 5 (58:35):
Anybody could vote against that, but there are some who
wanted it to not include anything about the sanctuary.
Speaker 4 (58:42):
Police policies of the state. It didn't say.
Speaker 5 (58:45):
Colorado was a sanctuary state. It just said that, you know,
Colorado hasn't been working with immigration on some of these things.
So this kind of turned into a little bit of
a foe fight. But at the end of the day,
Jonah Goose had a separate resolution that he wanted to
vote on. I actually co sponsored his great resolution too,
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and I did because this resolution called out how terrible
that anti Semitic hateful Act was.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
It's just that Gabes went a little farther because it also.
Speaker 5 (59:20):
Talked about the aspect of working governments working together. I
co sponsored both of them. Had Jonah Goose has been
on the floor, I would have voted for it, but
many Democrats decided to not vote for Gabe Evans. Now
I will give Jonah Goose credit. He did end up
voting for the resolution that Gabe put out there. All
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of the Republicans did who were there, and then Jonah Goose,
but then we had Diana to get Britney Peterson, Jason
Crowe all decided to not support that. I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
I don't either, because particularly when you add the element
of the fact that the perpetrator, the terrorists basically who
did the horrible attack and Boulder could have been stopped.
I mean, as you said, Colorado and the CBI and
the FBI both knew he was here illegally, which is
why he didn't get a gun. But it isn't just
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this instance if we don't call out the cause. It's
not just what happened in Boulder, which was horrific, it's
also Lake and Riley.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
So yes, it's good to call it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
The nearly nine hundred percent increase in anti Semitism, but
we've also got to call out that there are many
who were whose murders could have been prevented. To say
the least, thank you for your leadership on that something
I want to bring up.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
In a good positive way because obviously in.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Your district, and if you're just tuning in, this is
Deborah Flora sitting in from Mandy Connell. My guest is
Congressman Jeff Crank of Colorado's fifth congressional district. The Air
Force Academy is in your district. My dad served in
the Air Force, and I actually, at twelve years old,
got to walk down the aisle of the ERP's Academy
chapel as my sister married a graduate of cadet. But
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one of the things that's really positive, and you serve
on the House Armed Services Committee, there's record enlistment happening
over the last few years. Order the previous administration, there
was a challenge meeting any limits. The Army, for instance,
has already met his recruiting roal of sixty one thousand,
four months early. Can you talk about what you see
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is this change in the military culture.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Because I think it's a positive thing for our country.
Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
It's very heartening to see, you know, obviously, when you
have and I'll just be honest, I think we've had
an administration for four years prior that really blamed America.
It was kind of the blame America first crowd that
was running the show. And when you do that, there's
not a lot of pride to run out and join
the military and go.
Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Fight what to.
Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Be blamed for all of the world's ills, you know,
and this is one of the great things we saw
we saw when Ronald Reagan got elected, right, we saw
this resurgence of patriotism. And you know, this is a
debate we have in our country. I believe in American exceptionalism.
I know you do as well. And I think most
people take for granted what we have in the United
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States and how great we have it here.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
We didn't take it for granted because we live in.
Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
The greatest country in the world. We have all these
freedoms and liberties and we don't even think about them.
But I think sometimes we have you know, as with
President Trump coming in, it is you know, I know
people sometimes on the left get triggered by the phrase,
you know, America First or make America great again. I
think most Americans understand what that means, that America is
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a great country. We're great because we have the Constitution,
we have the Bill of Rights that protect.
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Us, and we ought to be helping.
Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
Export that to the world. America is not a bad thing,
it's a good thing. And I think people are signing
up for the military because they want to be a.
Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Part of that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
I agree, I agree, and I'm really glad to see that,
particularly with the instability we're seeing in the world right now. Well,
unfortunately have a limited time today, Congressman, but thank you
so much for joining in, and this will just be
the first of many times we'll hopefully get to do
this again.
Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Thank you for all you're doing. I greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Debra.
Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
It was great seeing you last week, and thanks for
all you're doing in Colorado. And we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
That sounds great. Thanks so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Well, that was my guests, Congressman Jeff Crank, were heading
through a break. When we come back, I got a
question for you, and that I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Why. How do you take your coffee? I've got some
good news for you ahead five six six nine zero.
How do you take your coffee? If you drink coffee?
I do up. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I'm Deborah Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell, reading your text,
conversing with you you through modern technology. Thank you for
texting in five six six nine zero. That is five
six six nine zero. If you missed any of the show,
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definitely check it out in the podcast we just had.
Congressman Jeff Crank joining us, and that was a great
conversation all about what's going on in our well not
all about can't cover everything in ten minutes, but we
sure to talk a lot about what's been happening.
Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
But here I want to lighten up a little bit
because when we come back, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
At the top of the hour, I've got a very
special guest, a courageous woman who is joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Isolet Samrano.
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Her son, Jonathan was killed on October seventh, and his
body was dragged into the Gaza strip has not been returned.
I was dragged there by a un worker. We're going
to talk about that, but I did want to lighten
it up before that. So here was my question ahead
of the break, which is, how do you like your coffee?
(01:04:55):
Because I got some good news for you. I am
a coffee aficionado. I'm not a gourmet and almost anything else.
Just ask my husband. I am a terrible cook, but
I love my coffee.
Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Good news A new study of forty seven thousand female
nurses over the course of several decades, and I think
nurses probably need coffee more than most found that coffee
may offer much long, longer term benefit of healthy aging,
of course, adjusting for factors that could limit the aging,
such as diet, whether your exercise, whether you're smoked. But
(01:05:29):
those who consume the most coffee, I may have to
up my intake, equaling about nearly seven to eight ounces
of ounce cups.
Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Of coffee per day. That's a lot of coffee.
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
They had healthier aging by about thirteen percent. And if
you drink coffee regularly, this is good news. It is
good news for me. But the reason why I ask.
Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
How you take your coffee is they.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Did give the downer addition to that report, saying.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Of course, if you like yours as.
Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
A triple machiato with lots of whatever yumminess that you
put in it, with only a tiny bit of coffee,
probably not as healthy. Sorry, I don't have good news
on that. So some people were saying they like their
coffee with just sugar. One person said, unfortunately, my cardiologist
disapproves of coffee for you. I am sorry. I feel
(01:06:20):
your pain, but I think it's always good to share
a little bit. And by the way, chocolate is good
for you also if it's over seventy percent. See just
a little good news.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
For the day. Coffee and chocolate, a little bit of
red wine.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I think that's a ticket to a long, healthy and
happy life. Okay, we're heading to the break now, but
when we come back and have an amazing guest, you
will not want to miss this interview with one of
the moms of the victims about chop Er seventh. We're
gonna talk about that when we come back. I'm Deborah
Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell. Connall showed this is
(01:07:01):
Deborah Flora sitting.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
In for Mandy Connell.
Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
The time goes quick, and I'm afraid this interview is
going to go even quicker than I would want. I'm
so grateful for you all being a part of this
very important conversations. As we know, a week ago on Sunday,
a very barbaric anti Semitic attack happened against those who
are just marching to remember and bring home.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
The hostages that are still.
Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
There in Gaza being held by hamas well one many
of those, by the way, our bodies that have not
been returned. My guest joining me now all the way
from Israel, and I so appreciate her joining me. Is
Ayyle Samarano and her son was murdered on October seventh,
and his body has yet to be returned. Ayala, thank
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you so much for joining me and for your generosity
of your time.
Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I so appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
I just they want to correct something. Yes, my son
was shot and kidnapped. We definitely don't know for sure
if you murder or not, and we hope and waiting
for a huge America, but right now.
Speaker 6 (01:08:12):
We don't know his situation. We hope he's not murdered.
Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Oh well, my goodness, gracious, I apologize for that mistake,
but I am so grateful to hear that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
A Yle, I'm a mom.
Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
I can't even imagine what you must be going through.
Can you tell us what happened that day, how you
found out, and and a little bit more about your son.
Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
Of course, my Sonuel Lutan was twenty one years while
he was kidnapped, he was in the Nova festival and
while the rackets start, he took his two best friends.
They went to the car and they went they were
in their home way home back, you know, to tell
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living tel Aviva. And on the way back, the policemen
told them to find the shelter because there's a lot
of rackets.
Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
It was nothing usual attack.
Speaker 7 (01:09:13):
Usually there was one or three rockets. It was a
I think hundreds.
Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
In that day.
Speaker 7 (01:09:22):
And the police told them go and found the shelter.
So they making you turn and they arrived to the gate.
Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Of a very keyboards burry.
Speaker 7 (01:09:32):
And when they arrived to the gate of the keyboarts
there was the terrorists already there.
Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
They shut the car.
Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
The car would go inside the cookboots by itself after
the shutting.
Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
And after a while there was.
Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
A jeep with two men and.
Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
One of them was a social worker at yes social
walk care and humanitarian organization, but you know, should be
a humanetarian.
Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
And they kidnapped you on hotunt. They left the atte too.
Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
In the ground and they kidnapped just to you on atun.
Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
I am so sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
By the way, my husband's name is Jonathan, and I
remember reading this about your son, and what I so
appreciate is not only you know, are you standing strong
for the return of your son and the remaining hostages.
And I believe we're going on six hundred and twelve
days of not section thirteen days of their captivity, but
(01:10:39):
you've also been traveling around speaking at the UN speaking
to world leaders about.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
What you just shared.
Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
There is video of someone who was a worker with UNRA,
the UN agency that's supposed to be humanitarian, that literally
dragged your son's body into the back of the truck.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Can you talk about what kind.
Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Of movement and awareness you're getting speaking at the UN
and world leaders about the need to really if this is,
you know, seems to be the situation completely, either restructure,
enre or get rid of it.
Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
I'm coming a lot to the U N and I'm
meeting a lot of leaders around the world because you know,
a lot of people talking about a Gaza citizens and
innocent citizens.
Speaker 6 (01:11:36):
There are no innocent in Gaza, but let's say there is.
Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
Okay, I'm saying, if we re calculate all the years
and all the money, that's that's all the world a
lot of carfries, give you your own run organization.
Speaker 6 (01:11:55):
You know, Gaza could be one of the.
Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
Best beautiful player in the world because they have a very.
Speaker 6 (01:12:03):
Beautiful beach, it's a beautiful streep.
Speaker 7 (01:12:06):
And if they were taking this money to you know,
to the right proposal, Yes it could be by Abu
Dhabi or something like that. But all those money went
to the terror and went to the terror organization Hamas.
And when I'm talking about Una Nua is Hamas and
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Hamas is Ura, there is no different and there is
no way that under the umbrella of United Nations there
is terror organization. And I'm going to those leaders and
I'm talking about it, and I'm talking about the fact
that they're saying, we need to help the citizens or
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the innocent people. But when they are giving money to
this organization helping those people.
Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
They make their situation war.
Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
You know, when.
Speaker 7 (01:13:08):
The wars and what I would say, women, I.
Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
Mean, it is not going better, you know it.
Speaker 7 (01:13:18):
So because this money is not going to the citizens,
It's going to the tunnels, to the markets.
Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
To the terrorists.
Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
And they even you know, I'm saying, I'm not a politician,
I'm not diplomatic, I'm not army, you know, women, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Just a matter.
Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
But even if I'm just a matter, I'm a small,
small matter in the world.
Speaker 7 (01:13:48):
But you know, logically, I'm saying, okay, stop giving money
to Gaza or to Honor. Stop giving them money if
you do, if you want them to be happy and
to live in a normal life.
Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
Stend builders, send doctors and teachers. Send the people all
over the world that are not Gaza citizens.
Speaker 7 (01:14:12):
They will build Gaza from the beginning with the money
they will bring.
Speaker 6 (01:14:18):
But don't give them money. You know, when when you
have children, you learn a lot of things, and if you're.
Speaker 7 (01:14:26):
A son, you know, going and touch drugs, you will
not give you money, right, do everything.
Speaker 9 (01:14:34):
That you will not get money to buy it. That's
the same for me. Don't give them money because money
going to the row. And then you know, I'm doing
a lot of places.
Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
In the world.
Speaker 7 (01:14:48):
First of all, I'm telling a lot of funny and
the lovely story about myself because it was.
Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Like that he is like that is a very high.
Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
And they want people to understand that he is not
just a titan that's a kidnap titan. He is a
human being with a lot, a lot of stories, interesting stories.
Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Yes, well, and I think that is so key if
you're just tuning in. My guest is Ayle Samarano. Her
son Jonathan Samarano, was shot and kidnapped at the Supernova
Music Festival in October seventh, and I want to make
sure that everyone understands Ayala, what you're saying is this
un united relief and Works Agency UNRA that is funded
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by the UN which is on US soil. It has
been shown that over fifteen hundred UNRA workers at least
are affiliated with Hamas and other terrorist organizations. And there
is video of an UNRA worker dragging your son's body
into a white at huv and taking him into Gaza strip.
Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
A Yile. We are going to be head. We're going
to be heading to a break, but.
Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
I wanted to see are you would you be able
to stay with us after the break because I want
to ask you a little bit more about your son
and talk about the other hostages.
Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Are you able to stay with us?
Speaker 6 (01:16:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Wonderful, wonderful, Definitely, not a conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
That I want to rush.
Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
We are going to go to a break, but when
we come back, we're going to finish this conversation with
Ayle Samarano, whose son is still being held six hundred
and twelve days after he was shot and abducted on
October seventh. Don't go anywhere when we continue. I'm dever
floor sitting in for Mandy Connell. Donall very grateful that
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our very special guest was able to stay through the break,
and we all have a few more minutes left, but
joining me and continuing the conversation and from Israel is
Ayala Samarano. Her son Jonathan was shot on October seventh.
Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
At the super Nova Music Festival.
Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
There's a video scene of his body being dragged into
the back.
Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Of a vehicle. The hope is that he is still
one of.
Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
The living hostages that remains in Ganza, not that it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Is good he is there, but that he is still alive.
Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
And Ayala, we only have a few minutes left, and
I want to make sure. The key to all of
this is making sure that we know that every single
one of those people that was killed, whether it's a
twelve hundred killed or the two hundred and fifty hostages,
is a unique individual.
Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Tell us about your son, Jonathan.
Speaker 7 (01:17:42):
I'm always saying that's ay he burned. As a businessman,
you know, since say it's Thursday, he is very attracting
a lot of people who always around.
Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
Him, very happy. He's a young.
Speaker 7 (01:18:03):
Producer, very famous in Telivis make a lot of saying,
you know, event for people here in a very famous clubs,
a very talent.
Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
You know, there is a people that say whatever.
Speaker 7 (01:18:22):
They touch, it's a becoming gold you know, so he's
one of that kind of people and a lot of
people loving so much and waiting for him so much,
and then.
Speaker 6 (01:18:40):
Yeah, it's really a medical boy. You know, I'm his mother,
I'm not, but I'm telling you it's not just my words.
Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Yes, well I have heard that, I've seen the photos
of your son, Johnathan, and I so appreciate your making
making us all aware of Jonathan who he is.
Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
I joined with the listener who just texted and said she.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Will be walking on the run for their lives and
praying for Jonathan, and we're also praying for you. And
the last minute that we have, we just have a minute. Unfortunately,
what would you want listeners to know?
Speaker 7 (01:19:20):
I would like all the people to know that's same
seven of October was a terror attacked and not part
of the conflict between Palestinean and Israel. And the people
that's choosing to look at it like it's a conflict.
Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
Between Palestine and israelle.
Speaker 7 (01:19:41):
Making a huge mistake because terror attacks can be everywhere
in the world and we should condemn terror. And that's
why all the world should stand with Israel because what's
happened on Oclober seven, Because if they will not do
it if we knack der door wherever it is in
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police in London, and I'm still dam.
Speaker 6 (01:20:07):
In New York.
Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
Since I should understand there is no place for terror,
I agree October seven was not conflict between two A countries.
Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
It's a terror attact only.
Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Thank you, Thank you so much, Ayle. I so appreciate
your sounding that clarion call. We're going to talk more
about it after after the break, but thank you and
thank you for being with us. I know it's after
eleven pm there in Israel.
Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
We're praying for you. We're praying for the rest of
the hostages to be returned. God bless you, Ayele for
a sounding that's called.
Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
We so appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, bye bye.
When we come back, we'll continue this conversation. I'm Deborah
Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell. For Flora sitting in
for Mandy Connell. My goodness, this has been a very
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fast three hours. So appreciate every single one of you
that has joined the conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Text line five six six nine zero.
Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
If you missed any of the show, I really encourage
you to listen to the podcast later, particularly for my
last guest that we just had at the two o'clock
hour and for the last two segments, and that was
a Yeile Samarano. She is a Israeli mom, a Jewish
mother who lives in Israel. She joined us all the
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way from there and I so appreciate our joining us.
That was basically eleven PM Israel time, and the story
of her son bears repeating.
Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Her son, Jonathan Samarano, a young man.
Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
About the same age as our son, who's twenty years old,
and so I cannot even imagine what she's been going through.
Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Her son was at.
Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
The super Nova Music festival on October seventh, ended up leaving.
She shared how they were turned around. They tried to
go into one of the kaboots, they found out that
it was under attack by Hamas terrorists and as they
turned around.
Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
They were shot. He was with two others.
Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
And when you watched the video and I'll get to
that in a moment, many people believed her son was
killed because his motionless body was then dragged into the
back of a white suv and taken into Gaza Strip
and is now with Hamas. What is a positive thing
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is Aye Lay shared with us that it has not
been confirmed that her son Jonathan was killed and she
is praying, as I think we all will join with her.
Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
That he is actually still alive.
Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
But I think there's so many things that we need
to unpack from this, and unfortunately there's just not enough
time to have that kind of a meaningful conversation that
we would all want to. But first of all, we
have to start by remembering, remembering all the details I've
shared that our last stop in our trip to DC
last week, we went to the White House, we met
with congresspeople. Congressman Jeff Crank was my guest earlier on
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the show. We were part of a press conference last
week celebrating the one hundredth anniversary of the Pierced decision,
really establishing parental rights and school choice. But our last
stop by purpose my husband and I was at the
Hollis Cost Museum. And the cry after the Holocaust is
never again, but never again only happens if we never forget.
Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
So let's go over a few key details here.
Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
October seventh, twenty twenty three, Hamas entered in attacked brutally
killing fifteen excuse me, twelve hundred civilians, mothers, fathers, grandparents' children,
including many hundreds at the Supernova Film Festival, young people
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like Jonathan who were simply their celebrating life. I've seen
the unedited Hama's bodycam footage. I think it's important if anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Is able to do that, I think you need you
because you.
Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Need to see the dehumanizing and horrific actions of those
who who perpetrated this atrocity.
Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
One of the things that Ayale.
Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Wanted everyone to know is this was not just part
of a conflict between what's going on in God's strip
Palestinians and Israelis. This was a horrendous terrorist attack. Now
Ayale does not know if her son, Jonathan, is still alive.
She is praying, so I am also praying. So I
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appreciate the caller who said this and texted in Deborah
would like to have her son's name. Her son's name
is Jonathan Samarano. Jonathan Samarano, she said this or I
don't know if this is a male or female who
texted in. I am planning to join the Run for
Lives March. I'm going to be doing that as well
and invite every listener to join us. This happens every
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single Sunday throughout the United States of America in Denver
and Washington Park up in Boulder, which is where the
attack happened, the horrific Boulder attack a week ago, this
past Sunday, and all run for their lives is it's
not political, it's not anything other than supportive, and they
are running for the lives. It's actually a walk, but
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for the lives of the hostages, fifty five of whom
still remain in Gaza, six hundred and twelve days later.
I can't even imagine that A Yale described yourself most
of all, not as this courageous woman who's testified in
front of the UN, which she has, who has met
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with world leaders, which she has, but she described herself
first and.
Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Foremost as a mother.
Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
And I think that's something for every single one of
us to think about. She's gone twenty months praying for
her son's return, not knowing whether he's dead or alive,
but praying and believing that he is.
Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
And I certainly pray that that is the truth.
Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
But I appreciate this listener who texted she's planning to
be at the Run for Their Lives March. We will
be there up and Boulder on Sunday by the way,
I invite you to join us. Boulder will be at
eleven o'clock. I believe devers at ten am. And this
listener said, I would like to pray for him when
I walk. I'm not sure I can spell his name correctly.
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It is Jonathan or the Israeli version, the Hebrew version
is Jonathan Jonathan Samarano s A M E R A
n O. And I know there is a movement say
their names, and I agree, let's say the names.
Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Of those that we are standing for.
Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Let's remember the causes of why they are suffering currently.
Thank you so much for that person who said that,
I will also be praying for Jonathan Yonatan Samarano as
we are walking and the run for their lives. Another
listener accident. The interview with the Jewish mother was very
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heart wrenching. Yes, indeed it is. And here's the other
part that I think we all need to know the
most disturbing thing that she had to watch. And there's
video of I Gaile having to watch the video and
she is weeping as she's doing so. And the video
that went viral and has been released is it shows
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two men dragging her son's body into a white suv,
once again not knowing if he's dead or alive. He
was shot his two the other two people that he
was with I do believe were pronounced dead, but anyway,
dragged in. And here's the thing that we all need
to know. Here's the takeaway. And if in any way
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you want to stand up for UNRA, please please text
in five six six nine zero. UNRA, by the way,
is a United Relief and Works agency which is funded.
It is a part of the UN on United State soil.
One of the people that dragged his body into the
suv was an UNRA worker. Now, lets you think this
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is one rogue person. Over fifteen hundred UNRA workers are affiliated.
Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
With Hamas and other jihad terror groups. I don't know
about you. I'm a welcoming.
Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Person, but when I look at the un that is
on our soil, and this is what is getting funded
by what is supposed to be a relief agency. This
is the same UN by the way, that put Iran
on the Women's Rights Council. Iran, where stonings still occur
of women who dare to not wear their burka or
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whatever else, should not be on the Women's Rights Council,
nor should we funding UNRA that has fifteen hundred workers
affiliated with terror organizations. Imagine a. Yale is a brave woman,
brave woman who has testified in front of the un
who has spoken with world leaders, and by the way,
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we ran out of time for her to share this well.
She talks about how world leaders that she speaks with
are more outspoken behind closed doors about their support of Israel,
their support of Jewish individuals, and they're standing against Hamas
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and they are publicly. Here's my encouragement to every single
one of us. Let's not be like those world leaders.
Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Let's join our voices.
Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Let's speak up against the atrocities that are happening right now.
Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Fifty five people still being held hostage in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Let's stand up for our Jewish fellow citizens here in
the United States of America, where there has been a
nine hundred percent increase nine of anti semitism in the
last decade. That is an anti defamation lead STA Testic
Care in Colorado, by the way, one of the largest
increases in any state, up nearly four hundred percent in
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five years. These are not isolated incidents. I think it's
really important for us to realize that and you know
what's most sad about this. Let's just look, by the way,
at the two individuals who were killed, young couple in Washington,
d c. In front of the Jewish Museum by another
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person shouting free Palestine. And by the way, let's never
forget that the gentleman who gentlemen I use very loosely,
the perpetrator who's through the Molotov cocktails in Boulder was
a Turkish national who had overstated his visa. Congressman Jeff
Crank shared that not only had his visa been expired,
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but after that Colorado gave him a driver's license, even
once again after he was denied a concealed carry because
the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and the FBI, the cibon
the FBI knew he was here legally. Same situation as
far as the motive of the perpetrator who killed the young,
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beautiful couple that were at the beginning of their lives.
I'm sorry, I've neven choked up as a mom here
about the same age of our kids twenty and twenty
one who.
Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Worked for the Israeli em missy.
Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
They were about to get engaged in Jerusalem the week
following the murder, their murder, Well, what were they leaving?
I just hope we can all.
Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Take a step back.
Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
That young couple in DC, Jarren Licchinski and Sarah Milgram,
let's add their names to praying also from for Jonathan,
Sarah Mono, but Yar Licchinsky and Sarah Milgram. We're leaving
an event at that Jewish museum where they were a
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meeting with young ambassadors from different countries. There were Muslims, Christians,
Jewish people that were all there. And why were they meeting.
They were meeting to talk about getting more aid to
those who were needing GAZA.
Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Time to step back, Time to step back.
Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
And take a look at where the hate is really
coming from. I love the phrase. I'm going to share
it again to kun Olam. It is a phrase I
am a Christian. We had Rich socle on yesterday who
is a devout Jewish.
Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Individual, and he shared the mandate that I.
Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Hope we all carry forward, it says to kun Olam,
which is repaired the world. Not that we can do
it by ourselves. I think only God can do it
at the end, but we could each be a part
of that, by the way, and it means that every
single one of us has a responsibility to see the
injustices and the sufferings and the things that are happening
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around us and do something about it. But the key
to it is be informed about what the real source
of it is. We talked earlier about someone I know
that's going to go to the No More Kings March
on Flag Day, which, by the ways, the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of the Army. I'll be recognizing that
instead on that day, But that individual and everybody has
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a right to march for what they care about is
in denial. She literally said on our social media pages
that there is no writing happening anywhere in Los Angeles.
And when I share the report with her that is
from the LAPD saying that they're getting overwhelmed and have
over fifty arrest including attempted murder with the Molotov cocktail.
Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
No response that the responsibility to be informed.
Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
So our responsibility then to take a stand with the
information that we have against the real cause of what's
going on. I think that is really really important. So
we can join together every Sunday. By the way, there's
a walk it's called Run for Their Lives. I appreciate
the listener who texted, it's a walk, not a run.
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But it's called run for their lives. That's what it's
called every Sunday. Hope you join us because they're running
for the lives of the hostages that cannot run for
their own.
Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
We'll be there up and boulder.
Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
After the Egyptian individual who throw the molotov cocktails at others,
try to silence that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
Whatever you're passionate about, stand up for it.
Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Well. I want to have some good news because there's
some other holidays that are coming up. Yes, Flag Day,
fly your flag because it's for everybody. Doesn't when we
have to agree, it means we live under a constitution that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Allows us to disagree. So that's what we're going to
be doing on Flag Day.
Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
It's also the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Army.
My husband an eighty second airborne veteran, so I am
just going to.
Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Be celebrating that.
Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
But another dad, it's coming up, and I want to
add with something positive I shared earlier, by the way,
the good news that it has been proven that coffee
is actually good for you. I give a big huah
to that and the anniversary for the Army. So drink
some coffee unless your doctor told you not to. I
did have a listener text me that I am not
contradicting your doctor's advice. Hashtag this is not a medical show.
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But yay, coffee is good for you.
Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Chug's good for you.
Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
I want to share another piece of good news coming
up this Sunday, his Father's Day.
Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
I think fathers don't.
Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Get as much love as they should, as much appreciation
as they should in our culture. In fact, I used
to say, though I grew up here in Colorado on
Larry Air First Base, this is my home and that's
why I'm here, and I will continue to stand with
others of goodwill to make sure we can pull our
state back to being one that is more safe, that
is more prosperous, that does not allow this anti semitism
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to continue to vergeon up there. But when I they
did have temporary insanity and was an actress doing commercials.
Almost always when I was cast as a mom, I
could guarantee you that the dad I would get cast
opposite of that, he would be cast as a buffoon.
And usually my job as a hero mom the commercial.
Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Was to ride in save the day.
Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
And keep them from burning down the house and the
entire family with a burning barbecue.
Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
So that's really how dads have been treated a.
Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Lot in our media. But you know what, I want
to honor dads. I want to talk about how important
that is.
Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
And I'm married to what I considered to who I
considered to be the.
Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Best dad on the planet other you know, I just
I'm a little biased on that fact.
Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
But I'm so grateful for him, and I'm grateful for
other dads.
Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
And just like I often say, moms need to be
honored and not be called birthing persons, we are not
birthing people. We are people who raised our kids whether
or not we gave birth to them. I did give
birth to both of ours, but they need to be
honored and support. I want to share a couple of
statistics about how important dads are, and this has come
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from the US Census Bureau.
Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Do you ever wonder about.
Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Some of the root issues is we're time out look
at the cause before we jump into something. Children from
fatherless homes is from the US Census Bureau, or more
likely to be poor, become involved in drug and alcohol abuse,
drop out of school, and suffer.
Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
From health and emotional problems.
Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
We've probably all heard some of these studies, but here's
some of the facts. And by the way, if you
grew up in a father's home where your single mom,
this does not mean this has to be your situation.
I know that there are great coaches, and there are
other people that can come in and be father figures
to your kids and you can overcome the statistic.
Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
However, dads play a.
Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Really important role in the house, and it's time we
are not afraid to say these things. It's not unpc
to say that. By the way, here's a statistic crime.
Seventy percent of juveniles who are in state operate institutions
come from single parent homes, fatherless children, or anywhere from
three to twenty times more likely to be incarcerated.
Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Dad, you make a difference. I want to give you
big old shout out, and I think it's time we
do that.
Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
I want to give a shout out to my husband,
celebrate our twenty fifth anniversary this year.
Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
And happy Father's Day to you.
Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
I'm doing a little early, little prematurely because I won't
be in this seat tomorrow. But we've got a lot
to celebrate, a lot to celebrate and a lot to
be grateful for.
Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
And I want to add to something that Congressman Jeff
Crank said when he was on the show at one
point thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
I do believe in American exceptionalism, and I know that
that can bring up a lot of different feelings.
Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
But when we fly the flag on Flag Day this.
Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Coming June fourteenth, the flag simply represents this.
Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
And we talked a lot about the proper role of government.
Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Are the American people better than other human beings around
the planet. No, every individual has intrinsic value. Is our
land mask better? Well I'm a little biased there because
I love the Rocky mountains, so I have to say yeah,
I think in many ways it's more beautiful. I have
traveled a lot around the world world. Well, what makes
American exceptionable? When we exceptional? When we're looking at Flag
Day coming up and things to.
Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Celebrate, Well, I would say this, I do believe.
Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
That America is the ones in all of human history. Idea,
the revolutionary idea that every single person is created with
intrinsic value, therefore inalienable rights, and government has only one job.
Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
To protect the rights and the safety of its citizens.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
That means infrastructure so we can go about our business,
get our kids to school, have you know commerce. It
means protecting our borders so those who extend their stay
like the Egyptian person who through Molotov cocktails in Boulder,
do not come in and do those sorts of things.
That's the only job of government. And I got to
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tell you that's actually exceptional. When we look at the
history of the world. The vast majority of of human
history are people living enslavery and tyranny, non in freedom.
That's something to fly a flag for, I believe. So
I hope that you enjoy this upcoming week. I hope
you enjoy Father's Day.
Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
I hope you.
Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Enjoyed Flag Day. And I have to tell you I've
enjoyed being with you these last two days. I wish
you all a beautiful day enjoying this very hot, but
very beautiful Colorado day.
Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
God bless each.
Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
And every one of you. I'm Deborah Flora, sitting in
for Mandy Connell.
Is Deborah Flora sitting in for my friend me Andy Connell.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm just kind of a redheaded version.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
People have even said that we were or Mandy says
we're sisters from another mister, So there we go. Don't
know how that really worked out or how to explain
it other than I am happy to be here with
you and happy to have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It was great to be with you all yesterday, and
I got to tell.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You sometimes I actually can be more light and fun.
But with everything going on in our country, I got
to tell you there's a lot of serious stuff to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
If you missed the show yesterday, we.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Had some great conversations about what actually is the role
of government. When is it okay for standing up for something,
to become violent about.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It, Is that ever okay? We talked about a lot
of that, and we're.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Going to continue some of those conversations today.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But we've also got some very, very.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Very meaningful guests that will be joining us in the
two o'clock hour. Please make sure that you stay with us.
We're going to be joined by one of the many
mothers of the hostages from the October seventh atrocity that
happened with a Hamas attack in Gaza Strip and then
going into Israel.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And now I say she's a hostage mom.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Her son was actually murdered at the Supernova Film Music Festival,
but his body is still being held. And this amazing
guest who's going to be joining us Islett Samarano.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
She's going to talk about her. She's been testifying. A
friend of the UN. She has been talking to world.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Leaders because, by the way, on footage, the person who
dragged her son's body into a white suv and took
it into Gaza Strip where it's still being held, was
hired by the UN. So we're going to talk about
that with UNWR or UNRA, that is who that individual was.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And there's over fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
That the UN itself had, as said and others have
verified of UN workers people hired by the UN, particularly
in that region, that are have known ties with Hamas
and other terrorist organizations. Don't get me started, although that's
what an entire radio shows about about the UN. Honestly,
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they lost my trust when they put Iran on the
Women's Rights Council, Iran who still stones women and supports
regimes like the Taliban that stone women when they slip
and their burkas shows their ankles. So a lot wrong
with the un started for a good purpose. But anyway,
we're gonna have the human story with Isolett Samarano joining
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us at two o'clock and at one thirty we're gonna
be joined by Congressman Jeff Crank. I was in DC
last week. My husband and I were both there, had an.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Opportunity to meet with the Congressman and talk a lot
about our nation and Colorado.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So he's going to be joining us at one thirty
to talk about several things, including the fact that a
third Chinese national was arrested for some kind of bio
terrorism organism. Believe it or not, this person was a
PhD student with a Wuan lab So there you go.
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All comes full circle. But let's get to one of
the top stories of the day. As we know, the
LA riots is kind of permeate everything.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yesterday there were protests at the Aurora Ice Facility.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
From everything I've seen, it was peaceful and kudos to
those who came and peacely protested. I'm all from making
your voice heard, just not destroying public property or throwing
molotov cocktails at police officers, which is what has happened
in LA. I want to talk a little bit about
that because more things are coming to light, as many
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people know, and we just heard.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
In the news.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
In addition to the National Guard that was sent over
the weekend, seven hundred Marine troops were sent from California's
base at twenty nine Palms.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And just to be.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Clear, because there's a lot of misinformation out there, those
troops were sent to protect federal government staff and assets.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That is a very.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Correct position for military troops to take because, by the way,
those federal facilities were not being protected either by the
LA mayor or by Governor Gavin Newsom. From reports from
the military, that will not actually be any interaction between
the Marines and the protesters.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But man, every time somebody wants to.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Say that this is a simply an issue because ice
came in and there are federal thories that came in,
tell that to the LAPD officers who made fifty arrests
probably more by now, of people who were literally throwing
molotail cocktails at them. Fifty arrests for attempted murder and
many other things. So this is something where it's pretty
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much just dis order and lawlessness. And I got to say,
you know, we had an interesting conversation yesterday about with
lots of texts coming in, when is it okay to
be violent in protesting. That's actually, by the way, not
pro testing at that point in time, it's rioting.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And if we are not a nation of law and order,
there were.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Not really a nation at all, because what defines the
nation the laws that the people have enabled their representatives
to put into place.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Really, that is what makes us a nation.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
We're not a nation, by the way, just because of
a land mass, just because.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Of the people group.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And by the way, I'm a pretty big fan of
this nation. And the reason why is because this nation
is one that was uniquely founded on an idea. Margaret
Thatcher's talked about that and many others have found about it.
Many other nations were founded on shared history, or a
land mass or all of that. America was founded uniquely
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on the idea that every individual's created with intrinsic value,
therefore inalienable rights, not given by government, but protected by
government and the constitution and our laws, and government has
only one job to protect the rights and the security
of its citizens, not to tell them what to do
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in their private lives, but really just.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
To make it so that we can have a civil society.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Civilization, by the way, even comes from the word civil.
Now that doesn't mean that we can't get passionate. I
certainly got passionate when I was leaving the Holocaust Museum
and our last visit in DC this week and saw
protesters outside trying to make some kind of moral equivalency
between the atrocities that Hamas has actually perpetrated, not Israel
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Hamas by using civilians as shields.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So yes, I got passionate about that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But when you step over that line, it becomes a riot.
And by the way, what I think is really really
troubling about the current riots that we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
The people who are.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Rioting saying that they want to be here in the
United States of America and don't want to be sent
back to Mexico, are flying a Mexican flag a foreign
flag as they are attacking law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
That is troubling to say the least. So here's the reality.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And oh, by the way, love seving these these texts
that are coming in. Feel free to text at five
sixty six nine zero. Love hearing your text, even if
we don't agree. I'm a huge fan of the First
Amendment and all the amendments and the Constitution and the Declaration,
which means we don't have to disagree. Disagreement is not hate.
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Disagreement is healthy dialogue. And when it is shut down,
by the way, when it is shut down, we have.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The beginning of the end.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
To be honest, and that's a lot of what we're
talking about here, So please text it in five six
six nine zero one person. When I was commenting on
my statement at Iran stone for revealing an ankle, does Iran.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Have strip bars?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
By the way, let me just take that a step
further interesting point when Iran says it does not have
any people of the LGBTQ community living there, Well, that's
because they're either all hiding their life style and their
choices or they have been killed. So yes, that is
very interesting, particularly when you see people the LGBTQ community,
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not everyone, but those that sometimes fly that flag protesting against.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Let's say Israel.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
By the way, Israel the only democratically elected government in
that entire region where people from every faith group have
lived in peace. Previously, on other radio shows, I've had
Muslims calling in from Jerusalem during the bombings that were
happening from the I ran back to Moss saying, this.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Is one of the few places where everyone can live.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
In peace, including those who are of the LGBTQ community.
So anyway, there's a lot of different comments coming in,
which are all good. Deborah's nice hearing you love the
Mandy and deb show. Thank you so much. That is
another one of our little side things that we do,
which is a whole lot of fun. Let's see, California
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doesn't want to follow the same laws as our nation.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Great point.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's something that Congressman Jeff Crank is going to talk
about when he joins.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
At the show.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
At one point thirty he had a X statement Twitter
statement that basically said, when Governor Nussa and the Mayor
Bass of La reach out for federal funds to rebuild
their city, they're going to have to justify why they
let it be burned in the first place. So, by
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the way, two thumbs up, you go. Girl, could not
say any better. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
That's very kind. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Okay, let's continue with what's happening. So seven hundred marines
and thank you to someone who made sure I said Marines,
because I do know that is a very respected and
unique way to refer to members of our military.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And by the way, shout.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Out to everyone who serves. I grew up on Lowry
Air Force Base. My dad's a Lieutenant Carl in the
Air Force. I've got many other family members. My husband
was an eighty second Airborne veteran, and so yes, indeed,
it's important that we treat them with respect.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So let's talk about this.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
The last time the Marines were deployed to quell civil
unrest in LA was during the nineteen nine two La riots.
I find that interesting. I'm completely dating myself, but I
was in LA at the time temporary insanity, leaving my
home state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And I remember, I remember the fear that took over
that city as they shut down the.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
One oh one freeway. And I was talking about this yesterday.
I think one of the things that is so sad
to me is who is the greatest damage being done
to Whether it was right after the Rodney King verdict
in in nineteen ninety two, what there was in the
burning summer of twenty twenty, after the George Floyd incident,
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the very people that these rioters are saying that they're
standing up for most of the damage of this kind
of vandalism. Destruction happens to inner city of families, minority populations,
to business owners in those communities, and then they have
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to rebuild again.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think it's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I had Rich Circle on the show with me yesterday
and he talked about a beautiful phrase that is used
in the Jewish faith, and the idea is that God
created the Jewish people, and I believe He created each
one of us, and I'm a Christian person, I consider
it to be a continuation of the Jewish faith. He
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created himself for a reason. And there's a phrase in
a Jewish faith that I just learned yesterday to kun Olam,
and it's the charge to every single one of us
to quote unquote repair the world.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Not that really we're able to do it in of ourselves,
because ultimately, I think only God can do that. But
we are not off the hook for addressing injustice where
we see it.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
There's a lot of injustice in the world, real injustice,
true in justice.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And true suffering. But before we act, we are.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Responsible for pausing long enough to look at what the
real cause is.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
What's the real cause.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Like when I was leaving the Holocaust Museum and there
were people out there holding up a picture of a
poor Palestinian child who was bleeding.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
My heart breaks for that child and every one of.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Those Palestinian civilians that had been absolutely terrorized.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yep, we can.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Agree on that, but let's pause long enough to see
why it happened, because we cannot address an injustice until
we look at why it really happened.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Why did that happen.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
There's a great phrase that Israel uses rockets to protect.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Its civilians and how mass uses civilians.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
To protect its rockets, which is true. All of the
aid that has been going to the Gaza Strip over
the last several years has been used not for hospitals,
not for businesses, not for humanitarian aid.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It has been used by Hamas who yes was elected.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And then began to abuse its power to build underground tunnels,
under hospitals, under schools so that they could use humans,
civilians as their shields.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So when we take a moment to figure.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Out what the cause of the injustice is, then I
really think we can come together.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I find it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Interesting because when I was reading about the protest yesterday,
and like I said, credit to those who were protesting
yesterday in front of the Aurora Ice Facility. From everything
I've read, it was peaceful and that's great. But here's
a quote from someone who was there, and this is
reported on CBS News. Colorado is not going to accept this.
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We stand with California. That says a lot. We stand
with the citizens who are saying they're not going to
be pushed around or silenced. Hey, I'm all for but
if you're talking about deporting those who are here illegally,
that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
This is the kind of critical turning point in.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
History that people look back and ask, why didn't you
do something?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I think that's a.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Great question for every single one of us to ask.
But I would posit this theory with a nine hundred
percent increase in anti semitism in the last ten years,
as reported by the Anti Defamation League, hardly considered to
be conservative, you know, they're pretty much reporting on all
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kinds of things. The Anti Defamation League nearly nine hundred
percent increase right here in Colorado, one of the largest
increases of anti Semitic acts.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
How about you.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Ask yourself, what am I doing today in the face
of the terrorism that is beginning to foment even more
in our country against our Jewish fellow citizens. How about
joining the run for their lives, to stand up against
the atrocity that happened up in Boulder when molotov cocktails
were thrown.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
How about standing up with.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
The LAPD officers who are just trying to keep the
destruction from happening and are having molotov cocktails being thrown
at them. I don't know, to me, that seems something
worthy of standing up against five six six nine zero.
A couple more details I want to share about that,
and we'll we'll follow the money when we come back
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from this break. But when you look at the chaos
that is going on right now, we have to kind
of ask how did it start?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And I do believe words have power. I believe it.
I do, and I will tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I will stand up with you, and I will not
speak in any vilifying manner of any people group, whether
I agree with them or not, because individuals should not
be vilified. Ideas can be pointed out to be dangerous.
But let's just remember what led up to what's going
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on right now. House Democrats started immie at an ice
facility in Newark.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Just one month ago.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What does that say when they're pushing their way through
and shoving their way through. Gavin Newsom and Mayor Karen
Bass refused to intervene to protect law enforcement officers when
they came under attack. And by the way, we have
people like Kitkeem Jeffries, Mayor WU of Boston and Waltz
Mayor Baths of Los Angeles contributing to these assaults by
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saying things like this, comparing those charged with protecting citizens
federal facilities opening up the freeways again, calling them and
referring to them as brown shirts, while glorifying the rioters
who are actually causing physical damage. No about you, but
I don't think that's sending the right message. Five six
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six nine zero five six six nine zero.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We're going to follow the money when we come back,
because it's interesting to see where the funding is actually
coming from for what is actually happening in LA.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's as old as Burnstein.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
When they had all the president's men follow the money.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We're going to do that when we come back.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And I want to hear from you five six six
nine zero, Deppah Flora's sitting in for Mandy Connell. Deborah
Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell. Lots of texts coming in.
Appreciate the lively dialogue. Five six six nine zero. That's
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five six six nine zero. Will usually I jump around more.
But we know the biggest stories of our day right
now have to do with deeper issues than just riots
in la or protests here, or or even the Boulder
horrific molotile anti Semitic terrorist act that happened. They have
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to do with some of the issues that are the
very basis of our Western civilization model. And by the way,
civil is a key to civilization, does not mean, by
the way, that we can't have spirited debate that we
can't be willing to stand up. In fact, I encourage
everybody to stand up for what you believe in, but
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also make sure that you get to the root cause
of what is causing this suffering that you are upset about.
I got to tell you, I get worn out sometimes
because I see so much suffering in the world, and
I'm always looking at it.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But we've got to take a pause to see what's
causing it.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's going to lead me to a question I'm going
to ask you before the break, and you can go
ahead and start texting you right now.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
My question is.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Going to be, and you'll understand when I lead up
to this, where do you get your information from? And
I'm generally asking that very curious, what news channels, what sources?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Where do you go to? And I can say that
I actually make sure I get.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Alerts from many different publications from every perspective, CNN and Fox,
Washington Post and Washington Examiner, Epic Times, MSNBC, because I
want to see what different groups are saying now before
I ask this question, and I am going to put
a roun on the spot, but I want to tell
you why I think that is important.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
What's happening in LA right now, and let's follow the money,
shall we.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
We've already talked about.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
How Gavin Newsom and La Mayor Bass have not only
not done anything to stop the attacks even on their
own LAPD as well as federal law enforcement, but on
top of it, they've actually been vilifying law enforcement and
glorifying those who are burning things while flying a flag
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from another country. That to me, is disturb I don't
care whether you're left or right, Republican or Democrat.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's something we should be able to talk about. But
let's talk.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
About something that led me to a very interesting interaction.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Shall we call it Okay, let's follow the money behind
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And by the way, I shared this yesterday, I was
at a press conference for the Supreme Court steps last Tuesday.
It was for the Pierce Decision one hundredth anniversary that
supports parental rights as well as school choice.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
There was one loan protester. We were there with the
Secretary of Education.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Linda McMahon and others, and there's one loan protester who
all that this person could say was fffff over and
over again, to which point time my mom instinct kicked
into place and I wanted to go and just put
this person in a time out, because healthy dialogue is great.
Just swearing as a childish act.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But when we went up to this.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Protester, somebody offered them like three hundred dollars to just
be quiet for a little while. And you know what
their protest said, Oh, I'm getting paid a lot more
money than that to be standing here trying.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
To disrupt you.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Okay, so let's follow the money, shall we. Let's follow
the money.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, here we go.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Behind the riot's happening right in LA. One major group
is called the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights. Are called
CHURLA c h I r LA. I'm gonna say churrleve
because I don't know how to say it, but the
Coalition for Human Immigrant Rights. Let's look at where the
money comes from.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
This group. They're one of the key players in fomenting.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
What is a violent riot that is happening right now,
despite what some folks would like to say. They're in
LA based nonprofit with a history of taking radical.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Positions on immigration.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It led to the twenty eighteen campaign to completely abolish ICE.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I think with what we're seeing with the terrorist in
Boulder who overstayed.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
His visa, when we look at the Chinese nationals who
were just arrested for trying to bring bioterrorism organisms into
the United States, I think ICE is pretty valuable at
this point in time, to say the least. But they
try to lead to the abolishment of it.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, you look at the records.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
The financial records of the organization that is predominantly behind
the LA riots and guess what, not only.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Do they have strong ties to them the Democrat.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Party and have supported the election of many Democrat candidates,
including a close relationship with LA Mayor Karen Bass.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And let's just give a quick background on Karen Bass.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
She's a fan of Castro, worked in Cuba in the
nineteen seventies when La was burning. Recently, remember those fires,
different kind of fires.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
But happening. She was actually not even there.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
She was in Ghana for the Socialist president's inauguration. Okay,
where does the money come from for this organization that
is funding the riots? Well, not surprisingly, ninety six percent
of its fund comes from the state government of California.
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The state government of California is funding the organization that
is currently causing the burning of much of California.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, La, but it's one of the major cities. When
you look at that, you have to pause and say, Okay,
that doesn't make sense to me. By the way, if
you know anyone in.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
LA, I suggest you share this with them, because a
money trail never lies, and they're paying taxes to the
very government that is funding the ninety six percent of
the budget for the organization that is currently behind the
destruction that's happening and the targeting of the LAPD. So
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there you go. Now when we look at what's going on,
this is going to lead me to my question about
where do you get your news? Would love to hear
that tex into five sixty six nine zero. So what
is next when we're looking at these protests that are
you know, in some ways growing. There was one here yesterday.
We'll see what happens. Well, there's a new one planned
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for June fourteenth, and that, by the way, June fourteenth,
if you know that date, it is Flag Day.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It is Flag Day.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That is a day in the United States of America
where we honor the flag.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
That represents our union.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's hopefully going to continue to be a union of
citizens of goodwill who understand there's something bigger that unites us.
And when we were in DC last week went to
see the Star Spangled banner and the Smithsonian once again
that flew over Fort McHenry that inspired those words about
you know that became our national anthem.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And by the way, the end of the national anthem
is a question does it still wave? That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Right when flags are being flown over some of these
riots that are not the American flag.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But what else is June fourteenth?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's going to be the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
of the US Army. You know what lovesmack among the
different branches. But I'm partial to the Army because my
husband is a eighty second Airborne Army veteran, but he
used to smack talk with.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
My dad was a lieutenant girl in the Air Force.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Appreciate everyone who serves or has served our nation. What's
being planned on June fourteenth? All over the United States?
There's an organization called No Kings, the No Kings organization,
and it's protesting, saying that Trump has become a monarch.
We can look at that, you know, in a bit.
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But they're planning instead, and here's what they say.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
On their announcement. Instead of.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Honoring the military that day, they say this, the widespread
movement will run counter to military parade in DC. And
why because they're saying that the current administration has defied
our courts, deported Americans, disappeared.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
People up the streets, attacked our civil rights, and slashed
our services. So they're going to counter.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
A day that's supposed to be for the United States Flag,
which is a sign of unity, the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary of our army, to instead co op that
day for something else, just I would just respectfully ask
them to pick a different day. It's fine protest, but
pick a different day. But here's what I find really
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interesting about it. There is someone I know in LA
who actually we had an interchange on social media, and
actually not an interchange because she never responded. She literally said,
there is absolutely nothing happening in LA. There are zero riots,
nothing's happening. When I shared the USA Today report quoting
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the LAPD Police chief and asked, is this not true,
the LAPD police chief said that they had arrested fifty people,
including those who had tempted murdering LAPD officers no respect.
I think I am most disturbed by this by realizing
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there are fellow citizens in our country that I actually
believe nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Is happening in Los Angeles. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So my question is this, where do you get your news?
Are you willing to look at it from many different sides?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Because if this person.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Who I know, who is an intelligent individual, truly believes
and she is in LA, truly believes there are no
riots going on and will not respond to report From
the LAPD's own statement, We're at a difficult position in
our republic because if we cannot even agree that there
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is something factually occurring, how can.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
We begin to discuss how to address it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So this is my question for you. We're heading to
a break five six six nine zero. Where do you
get your information? I doesn't matter to me if you're
left or right, Republican Democrat. Where do you get your information?
And are you willing to open up that spirit even
further to make sure you're getting the full picture?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And when we come back, I want to read some
of the answers and I'll put a rout on the
spot for this too. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Debrah Flora is sitting in for Mandy Connell five six
six nine zero, texting in at five six six nine zero.
That's five six six nine zero. Over Archingly, what we're
talking about is how do we continue with this civil society?
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I mean, we are Western civilization, civil being in the word,
and part.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Of it has to do with the ability to stand
up for what we believe in.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I am all for that, and it doesn't have to
be the same issues that I care about at all,
But we have to do it in an informed and
productive manner. That's why I am not a fan of rioting,
because that's not protesting. Especially when you see rioters begin
to loot, you have to begin to realize what are
they really there for, and by the way, they're frequently
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damaging and hurting the very people they say they're standing
up for. But even more so, if we are going
to be able to stand up where each one of
us uniquely sees suffering or injustice, it has to be
hopefully an informed way of looking at what the actual causes.
But we can't do that if we can't even agree
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on the facts.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The question that started.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
This was my interaction with someone I know who lives
in LA who literally said on her social media that
there is no rioting going on, that nothing is happening
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Literally said that.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And when I shared a factual information not from a
right landing source but from USA Today, quoting the statement
by the l l APD citing over fifty arrests as
of the times, probably more now, including for attempted murder
of a police officer, no response. So my question to
the break was where do you get your information? Because
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I get it from personally a lot of different sources,
from both sides of the aisle, so I can make
sure I'm staying informed and I'm not missing something. Don't
agree with all the you know, all the kind of
interpretations that maybe a publication has. We unfortunately have to
glean through a lot of it now because much of
it is actually now people's opinion. But I want to
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always make sure I'm not missing anything. So I get
alerts from, you know, from MSNBC and I'm from Fox News.
I get it from Washington Post and Washington Examiner, and
I got to tell you, I never get an alert
from what you call left of center publication that I
don't also get from a right of center publication. But
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frequently I get one from a right of center publication
that I don't get from let's say, MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
An interesting exercise, but.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
The question is where do we get our information? So
I'm going to put a ron on the spot first,
a rod where do you get your information?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
In six and a half minutes with our news at
the top of the hour right here on KOA Love.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Have do your job well done?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Way to promote it and a lot of the Texters
are saying KOA, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I also get push alerts for various publications. I mean,
Fox News, CNN, pretty much across the board. I've got
a lot of different outlets that I'll give me my
push alerts.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Here you go, non cop out edition. So I appreciate
both of those.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
A Rod Well, that's what I'm hearing from a lot
of folks.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
From KOA, from KDVR, from Fox News. I'm hearing people
who say, a great question, I get it from Wall
Street Journal.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'll see it from the Wall Street Journal myself.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Someone said, radio, newspaper, television, and a variety of internet sites.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That's great. I actually don't watch much news anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I tend to just listen because I'm excuse me to
tend to just read, because I really don't want people's interpretation.
Somebody else said only pod save America. I would encourage
that listener listen to a few other sources, because no
one source really should be trusted with everything. So heading
to a break, glad you're listening to this source, and
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then you're about to listen to KOA News.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
When we come back, we're in have a great show.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I'm going to give a shout out to Congressman Gave Evans,
and at one point thirty we'll have Congressman Jeff Crank
joining me, So don't go anywhere. Debra Flora is sitting
in for Mandy Connell. Feel free to text in at
any time. Five six six nine zero. That's five sixty
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six nine zero.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Coming up.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
At one point thirty, we are going to have Congressman
Jeff Crank from Klora's fifth Congressional district joining us to
talk about what's going on Colorado and in our country.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And then you'll definitely want to stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
At two p we are going to have an amazing, moving,
perhaps heartmanding interview with a woman who her son was
killed on October seventeenth. Her son was at the Supernova
Music Festival when Hamas brutally attacked Israel, and she's going
to talk about why she is finding to get his
body back. It's still been held about six hundred and
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twelve days later, and her stand around the world and
particularly with UN because one of those who dragged her
son's body into an suv was a UN worker. We're
going to talk about that because it's important to look
at the facts as if we've been talking about all show,
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and one of the things that's kind of the through
line today, there seems to be a through line as
we kind of as I work to put some of
these notes together today, it's about follow the money. Unfortunately,
today we do not have the president's men like Woodward
and Bernstein following a trail and getting to the bottom
of it.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And so we're following the money.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
We were talking about the riots in LA following the
money to an organization that got ninety six percent of
its funding from the California government that is now fomenting
burning down things in California. That's problematic to me, whether
you are left or right. That's kind of a shady dealing.
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One of the things coming up is this no Kings
protest that's going to happen on June fourteenth, which, by
the way, I'm instead going to be celebrating Flag Day
and the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Army,
which I think is really worth honoring and celebrating.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
But what are they protesting.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
One of the things they're protesting is quote unquote cutting
our benefits.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
So part of this protest that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
They're going to have is because they don't like the
fact that we're cutting government spending. How about we could
all stand together to trim down the nearly thirty seven
trillion dollars of debt that is immoral that we're going
to be putting on the backs of our children. Well,
when you look at where some of that money is going,
let's follow the money for instance.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know, when you look at some of the craziest things,
by the way that our tax dollars, your.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
And mind money has been going to one of the
ones you just can't make up.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
There was a lot of money. I'm just using this
as an example.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
There's a lot of crazy ones put towards a steady.
To find out how fish feel about climate change, my
first question is always this, what was the methodology?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
How do you figure out how EFFIICI is feeling? My
guess would be if you talk to it about.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Climate change and then you look at it and after
a certain amount of time, it's belly up. Maybe it
wasn't happy about it, but that's the kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Now, there's some good uses of our tax dollars.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
There's definitely a purpose for government spending, and by the way.
It really is just to protect our rights and our safety,
and that enclodes our infrastructure. A lot of that'sn't happening,
while some other crazy stuff is.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
But let's follow the.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Money in the case, for instance, of the CDC.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
So Robert F.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Kennedy Junior, now the Secretary of Health and Human Services,
here's an interestring report to me, it doesn't matter left
or right. These are issues that I think we should
just all kind of be willing to look at if
we had journalists following the money. Here's an interesting story
right now, RFKA Juniors removing all seventeen members of an
agency within the CDC that is an advisory panel on vaccines. Now,
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let me just be really clear. I'm not anti vaccine.
I am grateful that our children were able to be
vaccinated against the momps and the measles and all of that.
There are others that are more questionable, but let's just
look at the money issue here. Those seventeen members, many
of them. It was found out, by the way, in
a study all the way back to two thousand, there
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was a study by the House that showed that conflict
of interest rules were weak to non existence, meaning many
members of this committee to rule on vaccines were actually
promoting big pharma companies that they stand stood to gain
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financially from. I've served on a lot of national boards.
I've had to sign these kind of conflict of interests.
If there was ever anything, I've recused myself whenever there's
been something that's in that arena that's not okay. I
don't care if you're left or right. We should not
have people advising the American people on vaccines are getting
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paid and making money off of big pharma. One of
the people who called this two attention was Robert Redfield.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
He's the ex director of.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
The CDC, the Center for Disease Control, who during COVID,
by the way, and I would talk about this when
there was a shutdown during COVID of schools and I
was with a lot of moms and dads who were,
you know, protests, because I'm all for protesting in the
right civil manner to get our schools back open. And
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Robert Redfield at the time said that children were more
at risk from the flu than they were from COVID
and there was no reason to shut schools. He ended
up leaving that position in January twenty twenty one, but
he has talked about since then that quote. Many officials
who tried to warn the public about potential problems with
COVID nineteen vaccines were pressured into silence, and it's high
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time to admit that there were significant.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Side effects that made people sick.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Now, he did recommend it for those over sixty sixty five,
which makes sense. That's how we've dealt with every other
pandemic before in our country's history.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But following the money is important.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Here's one more example I'm going to give you before
we switched to the whole autopen thinging hanging in there.
Follow the money that was follow the money in the CDC.
This has followed the money to China. We're going to
talk at one thirty with Congressman Jeff Crank, who made
a great tweet about the recent arrest.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
There was a third now recently of a.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Chinese national for smuggling biological materials into the US.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
By the way, the.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Person who was just arrested, let's follow the money where
this person came from. There were two previously, just so
we were all aware, who were arrested. One was sent
back to China, which the boyfriend of the woman who's
still arrested. She tried to smuggle biological pathogens into the
US that were characterized as agro.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Terrorism, a whole new word. Our world is getting more
and more unusual word.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
A whole new vocabulary to go with it. So we
know about that arrest. This was a University of Michigan scholar.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
By the way, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Buckeye fan, so I have to take a little stab
at University Michigan for that. I'm not saying it's not
happening at Ohio State or where else. But those two
were arrested recently, well just I believe was yesterday was
announced another arrest of a Chinese national who sent.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Four smuggled four packages.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Into the United States was some kind of biological material.
Guess where this individual was funded through. Well, tracing it
all back to my previous comment about Robert Redfeld with
the CDC and the COVID vaccine on.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
This person who was just arrested, Chinese national was a
PhD student in Wuhan, China.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Now let's all remember why.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
We need to be big, huge fans of the ability
to ask questions. When people were asking questions when Robert
Redfeld said that he was being pressured.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
As the head of the CDC to not ask questions.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
What happened to everybody who pointed to the fact that
this was probably made in the Wuhan lab Oh shouted
down own conspiracy theorist. Well, many of those same publications
that we're calling people names for daring to question have
now admitted that that.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Is most likely.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
That's why free speech matters the most when perhaps we
don't agree with it, or perhaps it's not a popular opinion,
it maybe disproved to be you know, bunk, But maybe
it is important that we actually are able to ask
those questions.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Okay, I believe in asking questions and want to hear
from you.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Five sixty six nine zero five sixty six nine zero.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
But I got to move on to another thing. Autopen
auto pen.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Okay, when I mentioned autopen a couple weeks ago, once
again I was shouted down on social media for asking questions.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Because everybody said.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That that really everybody had used Autopen's previous presidents had
used autopens.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Nothing to see here, Well, time to investigate it, and
I that's important.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
So let's talk a little bit about the facts of autopens. Yes,
Obama used autopens. But guess what, it's really reported that
he used it twice in his entire presidency when he
was out of the country.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Trump has reported that he uses autopen for what he
calls superlative signatures like letters and other unofficial business.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
We've all seen those letters.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
We've probably received them that have a president signature or
politician signature. We know that's not actually their signature. But
for unofficial business. It is not unconstitutional the use of autopen,
but it does create a constitutional crisis when we look
at a volume, particularly with the timing of someone President Biden,
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former President Biden, who may not have had the mental
acuity when it began to be used. So let's look
at some facts about autopen and to hear from you.
Five six six nine zero five six six nine zero.
Do you care about the autopen. Do you think that's
a problem. Do you think it should be used more?
Do you think it's an issue? I want to hear
from you five six six nine zero. But let me
read you some facts that may either change or.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Maybe reinforce what you.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Think about autopens. A new report has just come out.
There's a washdog group called the Oversight Project and what
did they do, because I think methodology counts well. They
retrieved Biden presidential documents from the National Archives and they
looked them over, and they've released their first their first
findings on this study, and they found out that Biden
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used not one, not two, but actually three different autopen signatures,
or the Biden administration did.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
His administration had reported two before.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
But there's actually three different autopen signatures.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
That he's used. Begs the question why.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Well, some people said maybe it was because he different
chiefs of staff and different secretaries. Some others have said
maybe was to make it less noticeable that he was
using an autopen signature. But let's talk about the timing
and what they were used for.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Okay, autopen signatures.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
And by the way, I'm doing this work because we
do not have all the president's men following and tracing
this stuff necessarily, but I appreciate those who are actually
looking into it. There were at least well, there are
many times that the autopen was used for Biden while
he was actually in DC physically signing other documents. Begs
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the question why Obama did it? I think it was
twice when he was out of the country. Okay, I
can get that that's justifiable. It was used when he
was actually in DC, on days when he actually was
physically signing other documents. That causes the questions what about
the timing it began to increase the summer of twenty
twenty two?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
What else was happening.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
As Biden's presidency continued on greater and greater signs that
his mental acuity was in question? And almost all of
the executive orders issued during Biden's final stretch and office
during January twenty twenty five, almost all of them were
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auto pen signed. By the way, executive orders are very
different even than pardons that we'll talk about that executive
orders really, in many ways could be considered the.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Very power of the presidency.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Whether you think they're overused, underused, use the right amount
of times. When an autopen is used for executive order,
I think it bears a whole lot of extra scrutiny.
Almost all of the executive orders during Biden's last month
in office in January twenty twenty five were autopen signed
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or The examples of those executive orders in executive order
to protect abortion, an executive order to adjust pay for
government offices. While look more into that ran out of time.
Were people helping autosign something so they got paid more?
I don't know, but really it's time to get back
to journalism so we can find out. Let's talk about
the pardons that happened that were auto signed. The ones
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that were auto signed in his final stretch were preemptive
pardons for doctor Fauci, General Mark Millie, who by the way,
never was held responsible for the debacle under his leadership
in Afghanistan. He was preemptively pardoned with an auto signature,
Adam Schiff, and Biden family members auto pen in his
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final days. The only one that is verifiable of his
family members that he actually signed was a one for
his son Hunter, which protected him from prosecution for possible
crimes for an eleven year period. But the others Fauci, Millie,
Adam Schiff, Biden family members all autopen. Here's one also
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that begs some examination. In the final pardons, auto pen
signatures were used to commute the sentences. Thirty seven out
of forty of those commuting of sentences were to death
row inmates, some convicted of killing children and police officers.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
But I think that's problematic five sixty six nine zero.
Do you think that is a problem to use an autopen?
Do you think autopen should be banned going forward except
for in unique circumstances. And what's next in this examination, Well,
they're going to be asking for logs, because there should
be logs who had access to this auto pen signature.
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The House Oversight Committee, led by Chairman James Ohm Comer,
has made this a focal point of a congressional investigation,
and Comer said he plans to the poena the following
people because honestly, we got to know how long have
we all wondered, by the way, when Biden would be
escorted down to a press conference, and when the commander
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in chief, the leader of the free world, would get
up at a press conference and say things like, well,
they told me not to answer any more questions. They
told me only to answer these questions.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
And by the way, what I'm sharing is me no joy.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
And the reality is, if this was a Republican president,
I had the same deep constitutional concern that I have
when the leader of the free world is on camera
telling us that they told him what he could and
could not do.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Who were the they? Who are the they. I've always
wanted to know who they are.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
When you know parents would say, well, they say you
need to finish your vegetables.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
But anyway, this is a really serious they.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I'd want to know this no matter who this was about. Well,
they're going to be looking into comer plans on looking
into and subpoenaing the former Biden aids who were basically
his handlers. This is from people inside the administration and
ran interference for Joe Biden. They're going to subpoena former
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aides Annie Thomasini, Anthony Bernel, and Ashley Williams to find
out who was operating the power of the presidency with
executive orders by auto penn. I think that is an
important situation, particularly.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
When you look at a.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Lessening mental acuity test. Here's another question for you. Do
you think we should have age limits for people that
are in elected office and also Supreme Court or do
you think we should have mental acuity tests? Personally, I
would go with mental acuity tests.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
And here why.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I'm blessed to know that my husband's grandfather lived to
be one hundred and four years old. When I met him,
he was doing lapse around his house with a walker,
and he was so sharp as attack until about one
hundred and two. Now that might be too old for
an elected office, but there is a very different ability
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to people that has nothing to do with age, but
has to do with mental acuity. I think that's something
that we should all ask for, no.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Matter who is in office. A couple of.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Techs coming in and then we're going to head to
the break auto pen only for non official purposes.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Agreed with that listener, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Somebody else said, I'm willing to bet that this was
doctor Jill or other staffers. There will also be a
log of every significant signature with computer idea and location
of computer used.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
I certainly hope.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
So, I think that's going to be something to watch.
Will the logs be available? Honestly, we talked about the
missing however many minutes of the Watergate tapes. We better
know that there are logs knowing who had access and
who used the autopen. Well, we're heading to a break.
When we come back, we're going to have Congressman Jeff
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Crank with us, and we're going to talk about what's
going on in our country, what's going on in our state.
He had some very interesting revelations about what happened in Boulder.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
And the perpetrator of that horrific attack up there, So.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Don't go anywhere. When we come back, Congressman Jeff Crank
will be joining me. I'm Deborah Flora, sitting in for
Mandy Connell.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Feel free to.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Text in at five sixty six nine zero. We've been
having some awesome dialogue here. Well, I'm so honored to
introduce our guests joining us today from DC Congressman Jeff
Crank from Kolora's fifth congressional district.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Jeff, thank you so much for joining us today. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
Deborah, It's great to be with you. You're doing it
all awesome jobasan for.
Speaker 5 (53:01):
A little bit, of course, I would expect nothing less
from you.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Well, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Coming from someone else who has been on the radio
a fair amount, I take that as a compliment. It
was great to see you in person last week in DC,
and thanks for joining us today. There's so much going
on and I just want to jump right into it.
I appreciate you, know, your leadership both in our state
and in our country, and you posted something on X
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on Twitter that I think a lot of people need
to know, and it was about the Boulder terrorist suspect
Mohammed Sabrey Solomon, and about what happens in states like.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Colorado where there is a little leeway.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Shall we say, with those who may not be here legally,
can you talk about what happened versus his visa and
a driver's license?
Speaker 5 (53:50):
Yeah, sure, Debra.
Speaker 4 (53:52):
So the assailant was here.
Speaker 5 (53:56):
On a visa, had a visa here to be in
the United States, that visa expired, and then.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
After it expired, over a year after.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
It expired, the state of Colorado gave him a driver's
license right and issued him a driver's license. In addition
to that, we now know that he tried to buy
a handgun, and both.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
The police Colorado Beer of Investigation and the FBI under
Joe Biden knew that he was not a citizen because
he has denied.
Speaker 5 (54:32):
The purchase of a handgun. But they didn't do anything
with that information. They just said, oh, great, well, we
can't give him a gun. But they could have taken
that information and given it to Ice.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
Ice could have gone and got this guy and deported him,
and this whole thing never would have happened.
Speaker 5 (54:52):
He would had the opportunity to do this, So that's
the real crime of it.
Speaker 4 (54:56):
And you know the problem with this is it's a
breakdown of the rule of law when.
Speaker 5 (55:01):
Governments don't work together.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
And the example I use.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
I just I love going on right along with our
law enforcement, and some with the Colora Springs Police Department,
some with the al Paso County Sheriff's office. And you know,
when I'm out there with them, they're going along and
they see someone and they pull them over for an
expired tag, him a ticket. And the reason they're doing
that is because the State of Colorado needs their money.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
So you know, I sort of asked the.
Speaker 5 (55:32):
Question tongue in chic I guess.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
What would happen if to the State.
Speaker 5 (55:36):
Of Colorado, which doesn't seem to want to work with
our local law enforcement and certainly doesn't want to work
with ice. What would happen if the al Paso County
Sheriff or the of the Douglas County Sheriff or whatever
sheriff's office just decided, you know what, we don't want
to do that anymore. We're not the tax collectors for
the state of Colorado. We're just not going to do it.
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They wouldn't get their money, and government.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
Collapses, right, And that's what happens.
Speaker 5 (56:04):
When we have these sanctuary communities. I think they know
immigration better than the federal government, and you know, I
think the American people expect better than.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
That from the government.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
Well, and we started the entire show talking about what
is a civilization if we do not have a set
of laws and a structure that define who we are,
what our values are. We've got I think the best
guidelines in the United States of America of any country.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
I do believe that.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
But the minute we begin to selectively choose which laws
we follow and which ones we don't, which ones are
government and forces, and which one it doesn't, this is
what happens and how Colorado goes from one of the
safest states to being I think it is the most
violent amongst the most populated cities in America, higher now
than Chicago.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Under these different policies that are going on. You know, Jeff,
I know, I know that it's divided.
Speaker 1 (56:57):
To say the least in the House of Representatives and DC,
but there's something I would have thought everybody could have
agreed to and represented. Gabe Evans of Colors New Eighth
Congressional District introduced a resolution condemning the Boulder attack, and
one hundred and thirteen Democrats voted against it simply because
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it outlined what you just shared, that this individual was
here illegally and if he'd been arrested, this never would
have happened.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Talk about that for a moment.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
First of all, good for Gabe for doing that, Congressman Evans,
But what.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Is the justification.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
What are conversations that you have with with those on
the other side of the.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Aisle about things like just condemning the Boulder attack.
Speaker 5 (57:39):
Yeah, well, yeah, I thought it was shameful, you know
that we even had this, had this fight and this
discussion on the House floor. There were at least three
resolutions that were presented. I was a co sponsor of
the one that Gabe Evans introduced. Great, thank you, Yeah,
you bet, And of course so I supported it as well,
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and it condemned the anti Semitic attack, and then it
also talked about the importance of local law enforcement working
with the federal government and others to coordinate our response.
And then the last thing it said was that, you know,
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it was it's it's important that Colorado's understand that we're
working together, the governments working together to solve this problem.
That's essentially what the resolution said.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
I don't know how.
Speaker 5 (58:35):
Anybody could vote against that, but there are some who
wanted it to not include anything about the sanctuary.
Speaker 4 (58:42):
Police policies of the state. It didn't say.
Speaker 5 (58:45):
Colorado was a sanctuary state. It just said that, you know,
Colorado hasn't been working with immigration on some of these things.
So this kind of turned into a little bit of
a foe fight. But at the end of the day,
Jonah Goose had a separate resolution that he wanted to
vote on. I actually co sponsored his great resolution too,
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and I did because this resolution called out how terrible
that anti Semitic hateful Act was.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
It's just that Gabes went a little farther because it also.
Speaker 5 (59:20):
Talked about the aspect of working governments working together. I
co sponsored both of them. Had Jonah Goose has been
on the floor, I would have voted for it, but
many Democrats decided to not vote for Gabe Evans. Now
I will give Jonah Goose credit. He did end up
voting for the resolution that Gabe put out there. All
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of the Republicans did who were there, and then Jonah Goose,
but then we had Diana to get Britney Peterson, Jason
Crowe all decided to not support that. I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
I don't either, because particularly when you add the element
of the fact that the perpetrator, the terrorists basically who
did the horrible attack and Boulder could have been stopped.
I mean, as you said, Colorado and the CBI and
the FBI both knew he was here illegally, which is
why he didn't get a gun. But it isn't just
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this instance if we don't call out the cause. It's
not just what happened in Boulder, which was horrific, it's
also Lake and Riley.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
So yes, it's good to call it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
The nearly nine hundred percent increase in anti Semitism, but
we've also got to call out that there are many
who were whose murders could have been prevented. To say
the least, thank you for your leadership on that something
I want to bring up.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
In a good positive way because obviously in.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Your district, and if you're just tuning in, this is
Deborah Flora sitting in from Mandy Connell. My guest is
Congressman Jeff Crank of Colorado's fifth congressional district. The Air
Force Academy is in your district. My dad served in
the Air Force, and I actually, at twelve years old,
got to walk down the aisle of the ERP's Academy
chapel as my sister married a graduate of cadet. But
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one of the things that's really positive, and you serve
on the House Armed Services Committee, there's record enlistment happening
over the last few years. Order the previous administration, there
was a challenge meeting any limits. The Army, for instance,
has already met his recruiting roal of sixty one thousand,
four months early. Can you talk about what you see
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is this change in the military culture.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Because I think it's a positive thing for our country.
Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
It's very heartening to see, you know, obviously, when you
have and I'll just be honest, I think we've had
an administration for four years prior that really blamed America.
It was kind of the blame America first crowd that
was running the show. And when you do that, there's
not a lot of pride to run out and join
the military and go.
Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Fight what to.
Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Be blamed for all of the world's ills, you know,
and this is one of the great things we saw
we saw when Ronald Reagan got elected, right, we saw
this resurgence of patriotism. And you know, this is a
debate we have in our country. I believe in American exceptionalism.
I know you do as well. And I think most
people take for granted what we have in the United
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States and how great we have it here.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
We didn't take it for granted because we live in.
Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
The greatest country in the world. We have all these
freedoms and liberties and we don't even think about them.
But I think sometimes we have you know, as with
President Trump coming in, it is you know, I know
people sometimes on the left get triggered by the phrase,
you know, America First or make America great again. I
think most Americans understand what that means, that America is
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a great country. We're great because we have the Constitution,
we have the Bill of Rights that protect.
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Us, and we ought to be helping.
Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
Export that to the world. America is not a bad thing,
it's a good thing. And I think people are signing
up for the military because they want to be a.
Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Part of that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
I agree, I agree, and I'm really glad to see that,
particularly with the instability we're seeing in the world right now. Well,
unfortunately have a limited time today, Congressman, but thank you
so much for joining in, and this will just be
the first of many times we'll hopefully get to do
this again.
Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Thank you for all you're doing. I greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Debra.
Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
It was great seeing you last week, and thanks for
all you're doing in Colorado. And we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
That sounds great. Thanks so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Well, that was my guests, Congressman Jeff Crank, were heading
through a break. When we come back, I got a
question for you, and that I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Why. How do you take your coffee? I've got some
good news for you ahead five six six nine zero.
How do you take your coffee? If you drink coffee?
I do up. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I'm Deborah Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell, reading your text,
conversing with you you through modern technology. Thank you for
texting in five six six nine zero. That is five
six six nine zero. If you missed any of the show,
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definitely check it out in the podcast we just had.
Congressman Jeff Crank joining us, and that was a great
conversation all about what's going on in our well not
all about can't cover everything in ten minutes, but we
sure to talk a lot about what's been happening.
Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
But here I want to lighten up a little bit
because when we come back, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
At the top of the hour, I've got a very
special guest, a courageous woman who is joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Isolet Samrano.
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Her son, Jonathan was killed on October seventh, and his
body was dragged into the Gaza strip has not been returned.
I was dragged there by a un worker. We're going
to talk about that, but I did want to lighten
it up before that. So here was my question ahead
of the break, which is, how do you like your coffee?
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Because I got some good news for you. I am
a coffee aficionado. I'm not a gourmet and almost anything else.
Just ask my husband. I am a terrible cook, but
I love my coffee.
Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Good news A new study of forty seven thousand female
nurses over the course of several decades, and I think
nurses probably need coffee more than most found that coffee
may offer much long, longer term benefit of healthy aging,
of course, adjusting for factors that could limit the aging,
such as diet, whether your exercise, whether you're smoked. But
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those who consume the most coffee, I may have to
up my intake, equaling about nearly seven to eight ounces
of ounce cups.
Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Of coffee per day. That's a lot of coffee.
Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
They had healthier aging by about thirteen percent. And if
you drink coffee regularly, this is good news. It is
good news for me. But the reason why I ask.
Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
How you take your coffee is they.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Did give the downer addition to that report, saying.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Of course, if you like yours as.
Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
A triple machiato with lots of whatever yumminess that you
put in it, with only a tiny bit of coffee,
probably not as healthy. Sorry, I don't have good news
on that. So some people were saying they like their
coffee with just sugar. One person said, unfortunately, my cardiologist
disapproves of coffee for you. I am sorry. I feel
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your pain, but I think it's always good to share
a little bit. And by the way, chocolate is good
for you also if it's over seventy percent. See just
a little good news.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
For the day. Coffee and chocolate, a little bit of
red wine.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I think that's a ticket to a long, healthy and
happy life. Okay, we're heading to the break now, but
when we come back and have an amazing guest, you
will not want to miss this interview with one of
the moms of the victims about chop Er seventh. We're
gonna talk about that when we come back. I'm Deborah
Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell. Connall showed this is
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Deborah Flora sitting.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
In for Mandy Connell.
Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
The time goes quick, and I'm afraid this interview is
going to go even quicker than I would want. I'm
so grateful for you all being a part of this
very important conversations. As we know, a week ago on Sunday,
a very barbaric anti Semitic attack happened against those who
are just marching to remember and bring home.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
The hostages that are still.
Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
There in Gaza being held by hamas well one many
of those, by the way, our bodies that have not
been returned. My guest joining me now all the way
from Israel, and I so appreciate her joining me. Is
Ayyle Samarano and her son was murdered on October seventh,
and his body has yet to be returned. Ayala, thank
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you so much for joining me and for your generosity
of your time.
Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I so appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
I just they want to correct something. Yes, my son
was shot and kidnapped. We definitely don't know for sure
if you murder or not, and we hope and waiting
for a huge America, but right now.
Speaker 6 (01:08:12):
We don't know his situation. We hope he's not murdered.
Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Oh well, my goodness, gracious, I apologize for that mistake,
but I am so grateful to hear that.
Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
A Yle, I'm a mom.
Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
I can't even imagine what you must be going through.
Can you tell us what happened that day, how you
found out, and and a little bit more about your son.
Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
Of course, my Sonuel Lutan was twenty one years while
he was kidnapped, he was in the Nova festival and
while the rackets start, he took his two best friends.
They went to the car and they went they were
in their home way home back, you know, to tell
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living tel Aviva. And on the way back, the policemen
told them to find the shelter because there's a lot
of rackets.
Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
It was nothing usual attack.
Speaker 7 (01:09:13):
Usually there was one or three rockets. It was a
I think hundreds.
Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
In that day.
Speaker 7 (01:09:22):
And the police told them go and found the shelter.
So they making you turn and they arrived to the gate.
Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Of a very keyboards burry.
Speaker 7 (01:09:32):
And when they arrived to the gate of the keyboarts
there was the terrorists already there.
Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
They shut the car.
Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
The car would go inside the cookboots by itself after
the shutting.
Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
And after a while there was.
Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
A jeep with two men and.
Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
One of them was a social worker at yes social
walk care and humanitarian organization, but you know, should be
a humanetarian.
Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
And they kidnapped you on hotunt. They left the atte too.
Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
In the ground and they kidnapped just to you on atun.
Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
I am so sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
By the way, my husband's name is Jonathan, and I
remember reading this about your son, and what I so
appreciate is not only you know, are you standing strong
for the return of your son and the remaining hostages.
And I believe we're going on six hundred and twelve
days of not section thirteen days of their captivity, but
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you've also been traveling around speaking at the UN speaking
to world leaders about.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
What you just shared.
Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
There is video of someone who was a worker with UNRA,
the UN agency that's supposed to be humanitarian, that literally
dragged your son's body into the back of the truck.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Can you talk about what kind.
Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Of movement and awareness you're getting speaking at the UN
and world leaders about the need to really if this is,
you know, seems to be the situation completely, either restructure,
enre or get rid of it.
Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
I'm coming a lot to the U N and I'm
meeting a lot of leaders around the world because you know,
a lot of people talking about a Gaza citizens and
innocent citizens.
Speaker 6 (01:11:36):
There are no innocent in Gaza, but let's say there is.
Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
Okay, I'm saying, if we re calculate all the years
and all the money, that's that's all the world a
lot of carfries, give you your own run organization.
Speaker 6 (01:11:55):
You know, Gaza could be one of the.
Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
Best beautiful player in the world because they have a very.
Speaker 6 (01:12:03):
Beautiful beach, it's a beautiful streep.
Speaker 7 (01:12:06):
And if they were taking this money to you know,
to the right proposal, Yes it could be by Abu
Dhabi or something like that. But all those money went
to the terror and went to the terror organization Hamas.
And when I'm talking about Una Nua is Hamas and
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Hamas is Ura, there is no different and there is
no way that under the umbrella of United Nations there
is terror organization. And I'm going to those leaders and
I'm talking about it, and I'm talking about the fact
that they're saying, we need to help the citizens or
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the innocent people. But when they are giving money to
this organization helping those people.
Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
They make their situation war.
Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
You know, when.
Speaker 7 (01:13:08):
The wars and what I would say, women, I.
Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
Mean, it is not going better, you know it.
Speaker 7 (01:13:18):
So because this money is not going to the citizens,
It's going to the tunnels, to the markets.
Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
To the terrorists.
Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
And they even you know, I'm saying, I'm not a politician,
I'm not diplomatic, I'm not army, you know, women, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Just a matter.
Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
But even if I'm just a matter, I'm a small,
small matter in the world.
Speaker 7 (01:13:48):
But you know, logically, I'm saying, okay, stop giving money
to Gaza or to Honor. Stop giving them money if
you do, if you want them to be happy and
to live in a normal life.
Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
Stend builders, send doctors and teachers. Send the people all
over the world that are not Gaza citizens.
Speaker 7 (01:14:12):
They will build Gaza from the beginning with the money
they will bring.
Speaker 6 (01:14:18):
But don't give them money. You know, when when you
have children, you learn a lot of things, and if you're.
Speaker 7 (01:14:26):
A son, you know, going and touch drugs, you will
not give you money, right, do everything.
Speaker 9 (01:14:34):
That you will not get money to buy it. That's
the same for me. Don't give them money because money
going to the row. And then you know, I'm doing
a lot of places.
Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
In the world.
Speaker 7 (01:14:48):
First of all, I'm telling a lot of funny and
the lovely story about myself because it was.
Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Like that he is like that is a very high.
Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
And they want people to understand that he is not
just a titan that's a kidnap titan. He is a
human being with a lot, a lot of stories, interesting stories.
Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Yes, well, and I think that is so key if
you're just tuning in. My guest is Ayle Samarano. Her
son Jonathan Samarano, was shot and kidnapped at the Supernova
Music Festival in October seventh, and I want to make
sure that everyone understands Ayala, what you're saying is this
un united relief and Works Agency UNRA that is funded
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by the UN which is on US soil. It has
been shown that over fifteen hundred UNRA workers at least
are affiliated with Hamas and other terrorist organizations. And there
is video of an UNRA worker dragging your son's body
into a white at huv and taking him into Gaza strip.
Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
A Yile. We are going to be head. We're going
to be heading to a break, but.
Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
I wanted to see are you would you be able
to stay with us after the break because I want
to ask you a little bit more about your son
and talk about the other hostages.
Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Are you able to stay with us?
Speaker 6 (01:16:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Wonderful, wonderful, Definitely, not a conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
That I want to rush.
Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
We are going to go to a break, but when
we come back, we're going to finish this conversation with
Ayle Samarano, whose son is still being held six hundred
and twelve days after he was shot and abducted on
October seventh. Don't go anywhere when we continue. I'm dever
floor sitting in for Mandy Connell. Donall very grateful that
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our very special guest was able to stay through the break,
and we all have a few more minutes left, but
joining me and continuing the conversation and from Israel is
Ayala Samarano. Her son Jonathan was shot on October seventh.
Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
At the super Nova Music Festival.
Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
There's a video scene of his body being dragged into
the back.
Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Of a vehicle. The hope is that he is still
one of.
Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
The living hostages that remains in Ganza, not that it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Is good he is there, but that he is still alive.
Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
And Ayala, we only have a few minutes left, and
I want to make sure. The key to all of
this is making sure that we know that every single
one of those people that was killed, whether it's a
twelve hundred killed or the two hundred and fifty hostages,
is a unique individual.
Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Tell us about your son, Jonathan.
Speaker 7 (01:17:42):
I'm always saying that's ay he burned. As a businessman,
you know, since say it's Thursday, he is very attracting
a lot of people who always around.
Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
Him, very happy. He's a young.
Speaker 7 (01:18:03):
Producer, very famous in Telivis make a lot of saying,
you know, event for people here in a very famous clubs,
a very talent.
Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
You know, there is a people that say whatever.
Speaker 7 (01:18:22):
They touch, it's a becoming gold you know, so he's
one of that kind of people and a lot of
people loving so much and waiting for him so much,
and then.
Speaker 6 (01:18:40):
Yeah, it's really a medical boy. You know, I'm his mother,
I'm not, but I'm telling you it's not just my words.
Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Yes, well I have heard that, I've seen the photos
of your son, Johnathan, and I so appreciate your making
making us all aware of Jonathan who he is.
Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
I joined with the listener who just texted and said she.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Will be walking on the run for their lives and
praying for Jonathan, and we're also praying for you. And
the last minute that we have, we just have a minute. Unfortunately,
what would you want listeners to know?
Speaker 7 (01:19:20):
I would like all the people to know that's same
seven of October was a terror attacked and not part
of the conflict between Palestinean and Israel. And the people
that's choosing to look at it like it's a conflict.
Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
Between Palestine and israelle.
Speaker 7 (01:19:41):
Making a huge mistake because terror attacks can be everywhere
in the world and we should condemn terror. And that's
why all the world should stand with Israel because what's
happened on Oclober seven, Because if they will not do
it if we knack der door wherever it is in
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police in London, and I'm still dam.
Speaker 6 (01:20:07):
In New York.
Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
Since I should understand there is no place for terror,
I agree October seven was not conflict between two A countries.
Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
It's a terror attact only.
Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Thank you, Thank you so much, Ayle. I so appreciate
your sounding that clarion call. We're going to talk more
about it after after the break, but thank you and
thank you for being with us. I know it's after
eleven pm there in Israel.
Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
We're praying for you. We're praying for the rest of
the hostages to be returned. God bless you, Ayele for
a sounding that's called.
Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
We so appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, bye bye.
When we come back, we'll continue this conversation. I'm Deborah
Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell. For Flora sitting in
for Mandy Connell. My goodness, this has been a very
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fast three hours. So appreciate every single one of you
that has joined the conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Text line five six six nine zero.
Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
If you missed any of the show, I really encourage
you to listen to the podcast later, particularly for my
last guest that we just had at the two o'clock
hour and for the last two segments, and that was
a Yeile Samarano. She is a Israeli mom, a Jewish
mother who lives in Israel. She joined us all the
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way from there and I so appreciate our joining us.
That was basically eleven PM Israel time, and the story
of her son bears repeating.
Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Her son, Jonathan Samarano, a young man.
Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
About the same age as our son, who's twenty years old,
and so I cannot even imagine what she's been going through.
Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Her son was at.
Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
The super Nova Music festival on October seventh, ended up leaving.
She shared how they were turned around. They tried to
go into one of the kaboots, they found out that
it was under attack by Hamas terrorists and as they
turned around.
Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
They were shot. He was with two others.
Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
And when you watched the video and I'll get to
that in a moment, many people believed her son was
killed because his motionless body was then dragged into the
back of a white suv and taken into Gaza Strip
and is now with Hamas. What is a positive thing
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is Aye Lay shared with us that it has not
been confirmed that her son Jonathan was killed and she
is praying, as I think we all will join with her.
Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
That he is actually still alive.
Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
But I think there's so many things that we need
to unpack from this, and unfortunately there's just not enough
time to have that kind of a meaningful conversation that
we would all want to. But first of all, we
have to start by remembering, remembering all the details I've
shared that our last stop in our trip to DC
last week, we went to the White House, we met
with congresspeople. Congressman Jeff Crank was my guest earlier on
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the show. We were part of a press conference last
week celebrating the one hundredth anniversary of the Pierced decision,
really establishing parental rights and school choice. But our last
stop by purpose my husband and I was at the
Hollis Cost Museum. And the cry after the Holocaust is
never again, but never again only happens if we never forget.
Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
So let's go over a few key details here.
Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
October seventh, twenty twenty three, Hamas entered in attacked brutally
killing fifteen excuse me, twelve hundred civilians, mothers, fathers, grandparents' children,
including many hundreds at the Supernova Film Festival, young people
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like Jonathan who were simply their celebrating life. I've seen
the unedited Hama's bodycam footage. I think it's important if anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Is able to do that, I think you need you
because you.
Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Need to see the dehumanizing and horrific actions of those
who who perpetrated this atrocity.
Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
One of the things that Ayale.
Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Wanted everyone to know is this was not just part
of a conflict between what's going on in God's strip
Palestinians and Israelis. This was a horrendous terrorist attack. Now
Ayale does not know if her son, Jonathan, is still alive.
She is praying, so I am also praying. So I
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appreciate the caller who said this and texted in Deborah
would like to have her son's name. Her son's name
is Jonathan Samarano. Jonathan Samarano, she said this or I
don't know if this is a male or female who
texted in. I am planning to join the Run for
Lives March. I'm going to be doing that as well
and invite every listener to join us. This happens every
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single Sunday throughout the United States of America in Denver
and Washington Park up in Boulder, which is where the
attack happened, the horrific Boulder attack a week ago, this
past Sunday, and all run for their lives is it's
not political, it's not anything other than supportive, and they
are running for the lives. It's actually a walk, but
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for the lives of the hostages, fifty five of whom
still remain in Gaza, six hundred and twelve days later.
I can't even imagine that A Yale described yourself most
of all, not as this courageous woman who's testified in
front of the UN, which she has, who has met
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with world leaders, which she has, but she described herself
first and.
Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Foremost as a mother.
Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
And I think that's something for every single one of
us to think about. She's gone twenty months praying for
her son's return, not knowing whether he's dead or alive,
but praying and believing that he is.
Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
And I certainly pray that that is the truth.
Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
But I appreciate this listener who texted she's planning to
be at the Run for Their Lives March. We will
be there up and Boulder on Sunday by the way,
I invite you to join us. Boulder will be at
eleven o'clock. I believe devers at ten am. And this
listener said, I would like to pray for him when
I walk. I'm not sure I can spell his name correctly.
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It is Jonathan or the Israeli version, the Hebrew version
is Jonathan Jonathan Samarano s A M E R A
n O. And I know there is a movement say
their names, and I agree, let's say the names.
Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Of those that we are standing for.
Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Let's remember the causes of why they are suffering currently.
Thank you so much for that person who said that,
I will also be praying for Jonathan Yonatan Samarano as
we are walking and the run for their lives. Another
listener accident. The interview with the Jewish mother was very
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heart wrenching. Yes, indeed it is. And here's the other
part that I think we all need to know the
most disturbing thing that she had to watch. And there's
video of I Gaile having to watch the video and
she is weeping as she's doing so. And the video
that went viral and has been released is it shows
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two men dragging her son's body into a white suv,
once again not knowing if he's dead or alive. He
was shot his two the other two people that he
was with I do believe were pronounced dead, but anyway,
dragged in. And here's the thing that we all need
to know. Here's the takeaway. And if in any way
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you want to stand up for UNRA, please please text
in five six six nine zero. UNRA, by the way,
is a United Relief and Works agency which is funded.
It is a part of the UN on United State soil.
One of the people that dragged his body into the
suv was an UNRA worker. Now, lets you think this
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is one rogue person. Over fifteen hundred UNRA workers are affiliated.
Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
With Hamas and other jihad terror groups. I don't know
about you. I'm a welcoming.
Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Person, but when I look at the un that is
on our soil, and this is what is getting funded
by what is supposed to be a relief agency. This
is the same UN by the way, that put Iran
on the Women's Rights Council. Iran, where stonings still occur
of women who dare to not wear their burka or
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whatever else, should not be on the Women's Rights Council,
nor should we funding UNRA that has fifteen hundred workers
affiliated with terror organizations. Imagine a. Yale is a brave woman,
brave woman who has testified in front of the un
who has spoken with world leaders, and by the way,
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we ran out of time for her to share this well.
She talks about how world leaders that she speaks with
are more outspoken behind closed doors about their support of Israel,
their support of Jewish individuals, and they're standing against Hamas
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and they are publicly. Here's my encouragement to every single
one of us. Let's not be like those world leaders.
Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Let's join our voices.
Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Let's speak up against the atrocities that are happening right now.
Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Fifty five people still being held hostage in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Let's stand up for our Jewish fellow citizens here in
the United States of America, where there has been a
nine hundred percent increase nine of anti semitism in the
last decade. That is an anti defamation lead STA Testic
Care in Colorado, by the way, one of the largest
increases in any state, up nearly four hundred percent in
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five years. These are not isolated incidents. I think it's
really important for us to realize that and you know
what's most sad about this. Let's just look, by the way,
at the two individuals who were killed, young couple in Washington,
d c. In front of the Jewish Museum by another
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person shouting free Palestine. And by the way, let's never
forget that the gentleman who gentlemen I use very loosely,
the perpetrator who's through the Molotov cocktails in Boulder was
a Turkish national who had overstated his visa. Congressman Jeff
Crank shared that not only had his visa been expired,
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but after that Colorado gave him a driver's license, even
once again after he was denied a concealed carry because
the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and the FBI, the cibon
the FBI knew he was here legally. Same situation as
far as the motive of the perpetrator who killed the young,
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beautiful couple that were at the beginning of their lives.
I'm sorry, I've neven choked up as a mom here
about the same age of our kids twenty and twenty
one who.
Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Worked for the Israeli em missy.
Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
They were about to get engaged in Jerusalem the week
following the murder, their murder, Well, what were they leaving?
I just hope we can all.
Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Take a step back.
Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
That young couple in DC, Jarren Licchinski and Sarah Milgram,
let's add their names to praying also from for Jonathan,
Sarah Mono, but Yar Licchinsky and Sarah Milgram. We're leaving
an event at that Jewish museum where they were a
(01:32:06):
meeting with young ambassadors from different countries. There were Muslims, Christians,
Jewish people that were all there. And why were they meeting.
They were meeting to talk about getting more aid to
those who were needing GAZA.
Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Time to step back, Time to step back.
Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
And take a look at where the hate is really
coming from. I love the phrase. I'm going to share
it again to kun Olam. It is a phrase I
am a Christian. We had Rich socle on yesterday who
is a devout Jewish.
Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Individual, and he shared the mandate that I.
Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Hope we all carry forward, it says to kun Olam,
which is repaired the world. Not that we can do
it by ourselves. I think only God can do it
at the end, but we could each be a part
of that, by the way, and it means that every
single one of us has a responsibility to see the
injustices and the sufferings and the things that are happening
(01:33:07):
around us and do something about it. But the key
to it is be informed about what the real source
of it is. We talked earlier about someone I know
that's going to go to the No More Kings March
on Flag Day, which, by the ways, the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of the Army. I'll be recognizing that
instead on that day, But that individual and everybody has
(01:33:28):
a right to march for what they care about is
in denial. She literally said on our social media pages
that there is no writing happening anywhere in Los Angeles.
And when I share the report with her that is
from the LAPD saying that they're getting overwhelmed and have
over fifty arrest including attempted murder with the Molotov cocktail.
Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
No response that the responsibility to be informed.
Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
So our responsibility then to take a stand with the
information that we have against the real cause of what's
going on. I think that is really really important. So
we can join together every Sunday. By the way, there's
a walk it's called Run for Their Lives. I appreciate
the listener who texted, it's a walk, not a run.
(01:34:16):
But it's called run for their lives. That's what it's
called every Sunday. Hope you join us because they're running
for the lives of the hostages that cannot run for
their own.
Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
We'll be there up and boulder.
Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
After the Egyptian individual who throw the molotov cocktails at others,
try to silence that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
Whatever you're passionate about, stand up for it.
Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Well. I want to have some good news because there's
some other holidays that are coming up. Yes, Flag Day,
fly your flag because it's for everybody. Doesn't when we
have to agree, it means we live under a constitution that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Allows us to disagree. So that's what we're going to
be doing on Flag Day.
Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
It's also the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Army.
My husband an eighty second airborne veteran, so I am
just going to.
Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Be celebrating that.
Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
But another dad, it's coming up, and I want to
add with something positive I shared earlier, by the way,
the good news that it has been proven that coffee
is actually good for you. I give a big huah
to that and the anniversary for the Army. So drink
some coffee unless your doctor told you not to. I
did have a listener text me that I am not
contradicting your doctor's advice. Hashtag this is not a medical show.
(01:35:25):
But yay, coffee is good for you.
Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Chug's good for you.
Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
I want to share another piece of good news coming
up this Sunday, his Father's Day.
Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
I think fathers don't.
Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Get as much love as they should, as much appreciation
as they should in our culture. In fact, I used
to say, though I grew up here in Colorado on
Larry Air First Base, this is my home and that's
why I'm here, and I will continue to stand with
others of goodwill to make sure we can pull our
state back to being one that is more safe, that
is more prosperous, that does not allow this anti semitism
(01:35:56):
to continue to vergeon up there. But when I they
did have temporary insanity and was an actress doing commercials.
Almost always when I was cast as a mom, I
could guarantee you that the dad I would get cast
opposite of that, he would be cast as a buffoon.
And usually my job as a hero mom the commercial.
Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Was to ride in save the day.
Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
And keep them from burning down the house and the
entire family with a burning barbecue.
Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
So that's really how dads have been treated a.
Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Lot in our media. But you know what, I want
to honor dads. I want to talk about how important
that is.
Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
And I'm married to what I considered to who I
considered to be the.
Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Best dad on the planet other you know, I just
I'm a little biased on that fact.
Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
But I'm so grateful for him, and I'm grateful for
other dads.
Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
And just like I often say, moms need to be
honored and not be called birthing persons, we are not
birthing people. We are people who raised our kids whether
or not we gave birth to them. I did give
birth to both of ours, but they need to be
honored and support. I want to share a couple of
statistics about how important dads are, and this has come
(01:37:01):
from the US Census Bureau.
Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Do you ever wonder about.
Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Some of the root issues is we're time out look
at the cause before we jump into something. Children from
fatherless homes is from the US Census Bureau, or more
likely to be poor, become involved in drug and alcohol abuse,
drop out of school, and suffer.
Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
From health and emotional problems.
Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
We've probably all heard some of these studies, but here's
some of the facts. And by the way, if you
grew up in a father's home where your single mom,
this does not mean this has to be your situation.
I know that there are great coaches, and there are
other people that can come in and be father figures
to your kids and you can overcome the statistic.
Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
However, dads play a.
Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
Really important role in the house, and it's time we
are not afraid to say these things. It's not unpc
to say that. By the way, here's a statistic crime.
Seventy percent of juveniles who are in state operate institutions
come from single parent homes, fatherless children, or anywhere from
three to twenty times more likely to be incarcerated.
Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Dad, you make a difference. I want to give you
big old shout out, and I think it's time we
do that.
Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
I want to give a shout out to my husband,
celebrate our twenty fifth anniversary this year.
Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
And happy Father's Day to you.
Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
I'm doing a little early, little prematurely because I won't
be in this seat tomorrow. But we've got a lot
to celebrate, a lot to celebrate and a lot to
be grateful for.
Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
And I want to add to something that Congressman Jeff
Crank said when he was on the show at one
point thirty.
Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
I do believe in American exceptionalism, and I know that
that can bring up a lot of different feelings.
Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
But when we fly the flag on Flag Day this.
Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Coming June fourteenth, the flag simply represents this.
Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
And we talked a lot about the proper role of government.
Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Are the American people better than other human beings around
the planet. No, every individual has intrinsic value. Is our
land mask better? Well I'm a little biased there because
I love the Rocky mountains, so I have to say yeah,
I think in many ways it's more beautiful. I have
traveled a lot around the world world. Well, what makes
American exceptionable? When we exceptional? When we're looking at Flag
Day coming up and things to.
Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Celebrate, Well, I would say this, I do believe.
Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
That America is the ones in all of human history. Idea,
the revolutionary idea that every single person is created with
intrinsic value, therefore inalienable rights, and government has only one job.
Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
To protect the rights and the safety of its citizens.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
That means infrastructure so we can go about our business,
get our kids to school, have you know commerce. It
means protecting our borders so those who extend their stay
like the Egyptian person who through Molotov cocktails in Boulder,
do not come in and do those sorts of things.
That's the only job of government. And I got to
(01:39:50):
tell you that's actually exceptional. When we look at the
history of the world. The vast majority of of human
history are people living enslavery and tyranny, non in freedom.
That's something to fly a flag for, I believe. So
I hope that you enjoy this upcoming week. I hope
you enjoy Father's Day.
Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
I hope you.
Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Enjoyed Flag Day. And I have to tell you I've
enjoyed being with you these last two days. I wish
you all a beautiful day enjoying this very hot, but
very beautiful Colorado day.
Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
God bless each.
Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
And every one of you. I'm Deborah Flora, sitting in
for Mandy Connell.
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