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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Connall showed, this is Deborah Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell.
The time goes quick, and I'm afraid this interview is
going to go even quicker than I would want. I'm
so grateful for you all being a part of this
very important conversations. As we know, a week ago on Sunday,
a very barbaric anti Semitic attack happened against those who
(00:22):
are just marching to remember and bring home the hostages
that are still there in Gaza being held by hamas well.
One many of those, by the way, our bodies that
have not been returned. My guest joining me now all
the way from Israel, and I so appreciate her joining
me is Ayle Samarano. And her son was murdered on
(00:45):
October seventh, and his body has yet to be returned. Ayala,
thank you so much for joining me and for your
generosity of your time. I so appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Thank you. I just they want to correct something. Yes,
my son was shot and kidnapped.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
We definitely don't know for sure if you murder or not,
and we hope and waiting for a huge America, but
right now we don't know his situation. We hope he's
not murdered.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh well, my goodness, gracious, I apologize for that mistake,
but I am so grateful to hear that. A y,
I'm a mom. I can't even imagine what you must
be going through. Can you tell us what happened that day,
how you found out, and and a little bit more
about your son.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Of course, my sone Lutan was twenty one years While
he was kidnapped, he was in the Nova festival and
while the rackets start, he took his two best friends.
They went to the car and they went. They were
in their home way home back, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
To Tel Aviv. We living in Tel Aviva.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And on the way back, the policeman told them to
find the shelter because there's a lot of rackets.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It was not a usual attack.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Usually there was one or three rockets. It was a
I think hundreds.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
In that day. And the police told them go and
found the shelter. So they making you turn and they
arrived to the gate of a very keyboards berry.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And when they arrived to the gate of the Keyboarts
there was the terrorists already there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
They shut the car.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The car would go inside the cookboots by itself after
the shutting, and after a while there was a jeep
with two men and one of them was a social worker. Yes,
social walk care and humanitarian organization, but you know, should
(03:06):
be a humanitarian. And they kidnapped you on hotunnel. Next
they left the attorne too in the ground and they
kidnapped just to you on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Atun I am so sorry to hear that. By the way,
my husband's name is Jonathan, and I remember reading this
about your son, and what I so appreciate is not
only you know, are you standing strong for the return
of your son and the remaining hostages, and I believe
we're going on six hundred and twelve days of not
(03:35):
section thirteen days of their captivity, but you've also been
traveling around speaking at the UN, speaking to world leaders
about what you just shared. There is video of someone
who was a worker with UNRA, the UN agency that's
supposed to be humanitarian, that literally dragged your son's body
(03:58):
into the back of the truck. Can you talk about
what kind of movement and awareness you're getting speaking at
the UN and world leaders about the need to really
if this is you know, seems to be the situation
completely either restructure enre or get rid of it.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'm coming a lot to the UN and I'm meeting
a lot of leaders around the world because you know,
a lot of people talking about a Gaza citizens and
innocent citizens.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
There is no innocent in Gaza. But let's say there is.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Okay, I'm saying, if we re calculate all the years
and all the money, that's that's all the world. A
lot of canfries give you your own run organization. You know,
Gaza could be one of the best beautiful places in
(05:01):
the world because they have a very.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Beautiful beach, it's a beautiful streep.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And if they were taking this money to you know,
to the right proposal, yes it could be by Abu
Dhabi or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But all those money.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Went to the terror and went to the terror organization Hamas.
And when I'm talking about Una Unua is Hamas and
Hamas is Ura, there is no different and there is
no way that under the umbrella of United Nations there
is terror organization. And I'm going to those leaders and
(05:44):
I'm talking about it, and I'm talking about the fact
that they're saying we need to help the citizens or
the innocent people.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
But when they are giving money to this organization. They
are not helping those people. They make their situation war.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know when the wars and what I would say, women.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean it is not going better, you know it.
So because this money is not going to the citizens.
It's going to the tunnels, to the records.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
To the terrorists, and they even you know, I'm saying,
I'm not a politician, I'm not diplomatic, I'm not arming,
you know women, I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just a matter.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But even if I'm just a matter, I'm a small,
small matter in the world. But you know, logically, I'm saying, Okay,
start giving money to Gaza, or to start giving them money.
If you do, if you want them to be happy,
to live in a normal life.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Send builders, send doctors and teachers.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Send the people from all over the world that are
not Gaza citizens. They will build Gaza from the beginning
with the money they will bring.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
But don't give them money.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know, when when you have children, you learn a
lot of things, and if you're a son, you know,
going and touch drugs, you will not give you money, right,
do everything that you will not get money to buy it.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
That's the same for me. Don't give them money because
money going to the row and then you know, I'm
doing a lot of places in the world. First of all,
I'm telling.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
A lot of funny and the lovely story about myself
because it was like that.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
He is like that. He is a very very happy boy.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
And they want people to understand that he is not
just a titan that's a kidnap titan.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
He is a human being.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
There's a lot, a lot of stories, interesting stories.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yes, well, and I think that is so key if
you're just tuning in. My guest is Ayle Samarano. Her
son Jonathan Samarano, was shot and kidnapped at the Supernova
Music Festival in October seventh, and I want to make
sure that everyone understands Ayala, what you're saying is this
un United Relief and Works Agency UNRA that is funded
(08:38):
by the UN which is on US soil. It has
been shown that over fifteen hundred UNRA workers at least
are affiliated with Hamas and other terrorist organizations. And there
is video of an UNRA worker dragging your son's body
into a white at huv and taking him into Gaza.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Strip a Yile.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
We are going to be head We're going to be
heading to a break, but I wanted to.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
See are you going to be Would you be able
to stay with us after the break, because.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I want to ask you a little bit more about
your son and talk about the other hostages.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Are you able to stay with us?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, wonderful, wonderful, Definitely, not a conversation that I want
to rush. We are going to go to a break,
but when we come back, we're going to finish this
conversation with Ayle Samarano, whose son is still being held
six hundred and twelve days after he was shot and
abducted on October seventh. Don't go anywhere when we continue.
(09:40):
I'm dever floor sitting in for Mandy Connell donad very
grateful that our very special guest was able to stay
through the break and we all have a few more
minutes left. But joining me and continuing the converse from
(10:00):
Israel is Ayala Samarano. Her son Jonathan, was shot on
October seventh at the super Nova Music Festival. There's a
video scene of his body being dragged into the back
of a vehicle. The hope is that he is still
one of the living hostages that remains in Ganza, not that.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
It is good he is there, but that he is
still alive and ayala, we only have a few minutes left,
and I want to make sure the key to all
of this is making sure that we know that every
single one of those people that was killed, whether it's
the twelve hundred killed or the two hundred and fifty hostages, is.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
A unique individual. Tell us about your son, Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'm always saying that's a he burned as a businessman,
you know, since say it's Thursday.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
He is very attracting a lot of people who always
around him, very happy. He's a young.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Producer, very famous in Telivis, make a lot of say,
you know, event for people here in a very famous clubs,
a very talent.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You know, there is a people that say whatever they.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Touch it's a becoming gold, you know. So he's one
of that kind of people and a lot of people
loving so much and waiting for him so much. And then.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, it's really a medical boy. You know. I'm his mother,
I'm not, but I'm telling you it's not just my words.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yes, well, I have heard that. I've seen the photos
of your son Jonathan, and I so appreciate your making
making a I'm all aware of Jonathan who he is.
I joined with the listener who just texted and said
she will be walking on the run for their lives
and praying for Jonathan, and we're also praying for you
and the last minute that we have and we just
(12:13):
have a minute. Unfortunately, what would you want listeners to know?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I would like all the people to know that's same
seven of October was a terror attacked and not part
of the conflict between Palestinian and Israel.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And the people that's choosing to look at it like
it's a conflict between Palestine and israelle making a huge
mistake because terror attacks can be everywhere in the world.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And we should condemn terror.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And that's why all the world should stand with Israel
because what's happened on October seven, because if they will not,
it's we knack der door wherever it is in police
in London and I'm still dam in we all yes,
since I should understand there is no place for terror.
(13:13):
I agree October seven was not conflict between two a countries.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's a terror attact.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Only thank you, thank you so much, Ayle. I so
appreciate your sounding that clarion call. We're going to talk
more about it after after the break, but thank you
and thank you for being with us. I know it's
after eleven pm there in Israel. We're praying for you,
we're praying for the rest of the hostages to be returned.
God bless you Ayala for a sounding that's called.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We so appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Thank you, thank you, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
When we come back, we'll continue this conversation. I'm Deborah Flora,
sitting in for Mandy Connell.
Connall showed, this is Deborah Flora sitting in for Mandy Connell.
The time goes quick, and I'm afraid this interview is
going to go even quicker than I would want. I'm
so grateful for you all being a part of this
very important conversations. As we know, a week ago on Sunday,
a very barbaric anti Semitic attack happened against those who
(00:22):
are just marching to remember and bring home the hostages
that are still there in Gaza being held by hamas well.
One many of those, by the way, our bodies that
have not been returned. My guest joining me now all
the way from Israel, and I so appreciate her joining
me is Ayle Samarano. And her son was murdered on
(00:45):
October seventh, and his body has yet to be returned. Ayala,
thank you so much for joining me and for your
generosity of your time. I so appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Thank you. I just they want to correct something. Yes,
my son was shot and kidnapped.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
We definitely don't know for sure if you murder or not,
and we hope and waiting for a huge America, but
right now we don't know his situation. We hope he's
not murdered.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh well, my goodness, gracious, I apologize for that mistake,
but I am so grateful to hear that. A y,
I'm a mom. I can't even imagine what you must
be going through. Can you tell us what happened that day,
how you found out, and and a little bit more
about your son.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Of course, my sone Lutan was twenty one years While
he was kidnapped, he was in the Nova festival and
while the rackets start, he took his two best friends.
They went to the car and they went. They were
in their home way home back, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
To Tel Aviv. We living in Tel Aviva.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And on the way back, the policeman told them to
find the shelter because there's a lot of rackets.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It was not a usual attack.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Usually there was one or three rockets. It was a
I think hundreds.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
In that day. And the police told them go and
found the shelter. So they making you turn and they
arrived to the gate of a very keyboards berry.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And when they arrived to the gate of the Keyboarts
there was the terrorists already there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
They shut the car.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The car would go inside the cookboots by itself after
the shutting, and after a while there was a jeep
with two men and one of them was a social worker. Yes,
social walk care and humanitarian organization, but you know, should
(03:06):
be a humanitarian. And they kidnapped you on hotunnel. Next
they left the attorne too in the ground and they
kidnapped just to you on.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Atun I am so sorry to hear that. By the way,
my husband's name is Jonathan, and I remember reading this
about your son, and what I so appreciate is not
only you know, are you standing strong for the return
of your son and the remaining hostages, and I believe
we're going on six hundred and twelve days of not
(03:35):
section thirteen days of their captivity, but you've also been
traveling around speaking at the UN, speaking to world leaders
about what you just shared. There is video of someone
who was a worker with UNRA, the UN agency that's
supposed to be humanitarian, that literally dragged your son's body
(03:58):
into the back of the truck. Can you talk about
what kind of movement and awareness you're getting speaking at
the UN and world leaders about the need to really
if this is you know, seems to be the situation
completely either restructure enre or get rid of it.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'm coming a lot to the UN and I'm meeting
a lot of leaders around the world because you know,
a lot of people talking about a Gaza citizens and
innocent citizens.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
There is no innocent in Gaza. But let's say there is.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Okay, I'm saying, if we re calculate all the years
and all the money, that's that's all the world. A
lot of canfries give you your own run organization. You know,
Gaza could be one of the best beautiful places in
(05:01):
the world because they have a very.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Beautiful beach, it's a beautiful streep.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And if they were taking this money to you know,
to the right proposal, yes it could be by Abu
Dhabi or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But all those money.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Went to the terror and went to the terror organization Hamas.
And when I'm talking about Una Unua is Hamas and
Hamas is Ura, there is no different and there is
no way that under the umbrella of United Nations there
is terror organization. And I'm going to those leaders and
(05:44):
I'm talking about it, and I'm talking about the fact
that they're saying we need to help the citizens or
the innocent people.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
But when they are giving money to this organization. They
are not helping those people. They make their situation war.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know when the wars and what I would say, women.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I mean it is not going better, you know it.
So because this money is not going to the citizens.
It's going to the tunnels, to the records.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
To the terrorists, and they even you know, I'm saying,
I'm not a politician, I'm not diplomatic, I'm not arming,
you know women, I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just a matter.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But even if I'm just a matter, I'm a small,
small matter in the world. But you know, logically, I'm saying, Okay,
start giving money to Gaza, or to start giving them money.
If you do, if you want them to be happy,
to live in a normal life.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Send builders, send doctors and teachers.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Send the people from all over the world that are
not Gaza citizens. They will build Gaza from the beginning
with the money they will bring.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
But don't give them money.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know, when when you have children, you learn a
lot of things, and if you're a son, you know,
going and touch drugs, you will not give you money, right,
do everything that you will not get money to buy it.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
That's the same for me. Don't give them money because
money going to the row and then you know, I'm
doing a lot of places in the world. First of all,
I'm telling.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
A lot of funny and the lovely story about myself
because it was like that.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
He is like that. He is a very very happy boy.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
And they want people to understand that he is not
just a titan that's a kidnap titan.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
He is a human being.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
There's a lot, a lot of stories, interesting stories.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yes, well, and I think that is so key if
you're just tuning in. My guest is Ayle Samarano. Her
son Jonathan Samarano, was shot and kidnapped at the Supernova
Music Festival in October seventh, and I want to make
sure that everyone understands Ayala, what you're saying is this
un United Relief and Works Agency UNRA that is funded
(08:38):
by the UN which is on US soil. It has
been shown that over fifteen hundred UNRA workers at least
are affiliated with Hamas and other terrorist organizations. And there
is video of an UNRA worker dragging your son's body
into a white at huv and taking him into Gaza.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Strip a Yile.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
We are going to be head We're going to be
heading to a break, but I wanted to.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
See are you going to be Would you be able
to stay with us after the break, because.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I want to ask you a little bit more about
your son and talk about the other hostages.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Are you able to stay with us?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, wonderful, wonderful, Definitely, not a conversation that I want
to rush. We are going to go to a break,
but when we come back, we're going to finish this
conversation with Ayle Samarano, whose son is still being held
six hundred and twelve days after he was shot and
abducted on October seventh. Don't go anywhere when we continue.
(09:40):
I'm dever floor sitting in for Mandy Connell donad very
grateful that our very special guest was able to stay
through the break and we all have a few more
minutes left. But joining me and continuing the converse from
(10:00):
Israel is Ayala Samarano. Her son Jonathan, was shot on
October seventh at the super Nova Music Festival. There's a
video scene of his body being dragged into the back
of a vehicle. The hope is that he is still
one of the living hostages that remains in Ganza, not that.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
It is good he is there, but that he is
still alive and ayala, we only have a few minutes left,
and I want to make sure the key to all
of this is making sure that we know that every
single one of those people that was killed, whether it's
the twelve hundred killed or the two hundred and fifty hostages, is.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
A unique individual. Tell us about your son, Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'm always saying that's a he burned as a businessman,
you know, since say it's Thursday.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
He is very attracting a lot of people who always
around him, very happy. He's a young.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Producer, very famous in Telivis, make a lot of say,
you know, event for people here in a very famous clubs,
a very talent.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You know, there is a people that say whatever they.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Touch it's a becoming gold, you know. So he's one
of that kind of people and a lot of people
loving so much and waiting for him so much. And then.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, it's really a medical boy. You know. I'm his mother,
I'm not, but I'm telling you it's not just my words.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yes, well, I have heard that. I've seen the photos
of your son Jonathan, and I so appreciate your making
making a I'm all aware of Jonathan who he is.
I joined with the listener who just texted and said
she will be walking on the run for their lives
and praying for Jonathan, and we're also praying for you
and the last minute that we have and we just
(12:13):
have a minute. Unfortunately, what would you want listeners to know?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I would like all the people to know that's same
seven of October was a terror attacked and not part
of the conflict between Palestinian and Israel.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And the people that's choosing to look at it like
it's a conflict between Palestine and israelle making a huge
mistake because terror attacks can be everywhere in the world.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And we should condemn terror.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And that's why all the world should stand with Israel
because what's happened on October seven, because if they will not,
it's we knack der door wherever it is in police
in London and I'm still dam in we all yes,
since I should understand there is no place for terror.
(13:13):
I agree October seven was not conflict between two a countries.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's a terror attact.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Only thank you, thank you so much, Ayle. I so
appreciate your sounding that clarion call. We're going to talk
more about it after after the break, but thank you
and thank you for being with us. I know it's
after eleven pm there in Israel. We're praying for you,
we're praying for the rest of the hostages to be returned.
God bless you Ayala for a sounding that's called.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We so appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Thank you, thank you, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
When we come back, we'll continue this conversation. I'm Deborah Flora,
sitting in for Mandy Connell.
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