06-14-24 FULL SHOW - Krista Kafer Fills in for Mandy

Episode Transcript

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I'm having a blast been here withyou, so be sure to check out
my column this Sunday. I'm aSunday Denver Post columnist, and it's on
rank choice voting, which I'm nota fan of. Yeah, and also
an amendment, a really really solidamendment by Emily Sirota that said, hey,
let's just slow this down. Ifwe're going to do a wholesale thing,
we're gonna we're gonna let some richguy change how we do voting in

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this state. Let's give it alittle time. Let's let some cities put
it into place, gets the king'sworked out, you know, ease it
in because it's a huge change.And I also think you got to give
voters a little chance for little buyer'sremorse, just like Alaska is having right
now. They got ranked choice votingback in twenty twenty and kind of rethinking

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it probably will ditch it this fallanother referendum. So yeah, so there
you go. I think it's asolid, a solid amendment. Slow thing
down a little bit, let people, let some localities experiment with this experimental
voting scheme, assuming the voters chooseit, and then maybe we can do

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it statewide. So hats off toher. I am not a fan of
ranked choice voting. I think it'sconfusing and it's also it's a great way
to disenfranchise people, so particularly inthis date. Let's say we get four
Let's say there's four contenders out therefor say governor for it ended up advancing
out of the primary that what's calleda jungle primary, and those four then

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go to the general. Let's sayit's two Democrats and two Republicans. You
vote for the two Republicans because,like me, I said that I would
never vote for a Democrat. Iwould vote for someone like John Bell Edwards.
He's a Louisiana former Louisiana governor,pro life moderate. I would I
could see myself voting for someone likehim. But generally speaking, I don't

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vote for people who aren't pro life. I don't vote for people who are
election deniers. And most of thetime I haven't voted for a Democrat since
du Caucus. But I'm not sayingI couldn't do it. It could happen.
But let's say there's two Democrats andtwo Republicans that advance. You vote
for just the two Republicans, andin round one, one of them gets

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kicked out, and in round two, the second one gets kicked out,
they're going to throw your ballot inthe trash. It's going to be considered
an exhausted ballot. You only votedfor two, you didn't do all four,
and because two have been kicked out, no one that you voted for
will go into the final round.Yeah, that's how it works. I

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would if this thing gets the signaturesthat needs to go on the ballot,
vote no and vote often. I'mkidding about the vote often. Obviously vote
once, but make sure you getyour ballot in and say no to this
crazy scheme. All right, Iwasn't planning on getting into right choice voting.
We touched on a little bit yesterdayand if you want to here yesterday's

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show, my dear friend A Rod. He put it together the whole show,
not just in segments, but thewhole show, and have it.
I tweeted it out. You cancheck it out at Christa Kaefer. It's
right there. Thanks A Rod.You're welcome, all of them, all,
all of your feelings are up thereas well, every single one,
every single time. I am behindKrystal all the time. It's all Christal

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all the time, if you wantto text me at five six six nine,
Oh, that's I would welcome yourthoughts on the subjects we've got caught
coming up. Unless you've got acomplaint and then you're gonna want to text
five six six nine one. That'sthe complaint line and so by all means
send your text over there. Actseek. Yeah, five six six nine

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one's not really the thing. Butanyway, today we got nutjobs strike back.
Excel is going to make you sufferthis winter. A judge finally got
it right. Scotis on bum stocks. After three hundred million dollars a year

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in homeless funding, you'd think thatcitations would have gone down. I'm just
thinking that that would be my guest. We're going to spend a lot of
money and then citations for say,panhandling, blocking sidewalks, public nudity,
that kind of stuff would actually godown. No, it's still on its
way up, looking to possibly evendouble this year. And yeah, lucky

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as the public. Also, whatwould you do if you found a safe
with one hundred million dollars? Thereis a little caveat there. We'll get
to that story in a bit.Also, you won't believe what movie is
being redone. Well, ask ChristianToto, he knows all about that.
Christian Toto will be on in thesecond hour of this show. Let's talk

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a little bit about homeless citations.So these are not citations for urban camping
on These are just citations for thingslike trespassing, panhandling, park in your
junk vehicle that you live out ofand a place is not supposed to be
parked. I assume things like publicnudity, all that good stuff, all
the non camping stuff. These citationsare things that our officers give out,

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and a citation is basically, youknow, it's not like they have to
go to jail. You don't evenusually have to pay, is my understanding.
It's more of a warning to getthem to stop doing what they're doing,
and yeah, drinking and doing drugsright out there in public, all
that good stuff. So in twentytwenty two there were two thousand and sixty

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six citations, twenty twenty three threethousand citations, and in twenty twenty four
four thousand citations is what they're prettymuch on track to getting, possibly even
more. Fourteen encampments have been clearedout, which is nice, and you
know, but the I actually thinkthat Mike Johnston, he's the mayor of

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Denver, he's I think he's agood guy. I think he is a
hopeful person. It really does thishousing first thing which I don't agree with,
which is this idea that if weget people into housing, they will
reach out, they'll get the servicesthey need, they'll get a job,
they'll get sober, et cetera,et cetera. My question there is that
they it was the Denver Gazette lookedat maybe a batch of five six hundred

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people that had been put into housingand like one of them asked for drug
and alcohol help. Just one,just one. And I'm pretty darn sure
there's more than one in that groupthat has a drug and alcohol problem.
In fact, I have yet tosee somebody begging for cash in the middle

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of the median that doesn't look alittle on the wasted side. So I
think that's definitely anish. And Ithink about the two friends of mine that
went to the Denver Rescue Mission program. When was it about to become homeless
the other was homeless, that bothof them serious alcohol addiction, alcohol and
drug addiction. And when you're inthat program, you have to get and

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stay sober, same four step thirteen. And I don't know how you work
full time. If you are aday drinker, you might be able to
pull it off. If you're amarijuana guy, a day drinking and working
at some point that breaks down atsome point, that doesn't go well because

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people notice, and because especially ifit's a job that involves like machinery driving
things like that, you are thena danger to yourself and others. The
most important part of securing a steadylife sobriety and full time work. And
I have no doubt there will bea handful of people that have gone through,

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and I hope it's more than ahandful of people who go through.
The Mike Johnston housing first idea ofgetting thousands of people into homes so that
are apart and thrown apartments at leasttemporarily, so that they will then get
sober and get a job. Afterall, it is subsidized. They just

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I think you're supposed to contribute somethingto it. But I don't see how
you eventually get to be self sustainingas a human being without working full time
and full time. Most employers notbig on the you know, drunken work
thing. So I don't I don'tknow how ultimately housing first pans out.

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I know that Houston has had somesuccess with it, so I do think
there are individuals for whom stability,a place to go home, a place
to put your you know, abed to put your head on, pillow
to put your head on, bedto put your body. I have no
doubt there are people who who willuse that as a new launching pad for
a new life. But I havea hunch there are a lot of people

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who are going to take the freehandout or the subsidized handout, and when
that drives up, they're back onthe street, you know, or live
in a nasty vehicle or something likethat. It sobriety is important. So
I have a hunch, you know, I hope for the best, but
I have a hunch that where MikeKaufman in the very thoughtful city Council over

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in Aurora, their look is awork first program and they're looking at building
a program that Yeah, if youabsolutely have to get out from you know,
get out of the cold and sleepat night, it doesn't really matter.
But if you want to be partof a long term program getting work,
getting sober. These are important components. Temporary shelter's one thing. We

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don't want anybody out there at thirtydegree, you know, in a thirty
degree night, freezing to death.But if you want to be part of
a long term solution, you gotto be part of that solution. And
this person here says and there's noexample of where housing first has worked,
not like it's being done here.I get the impression there is. Oh
this Presus Houston's program is done alittle differently. I hope so, because

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I don't know how if it's justa handout and someone doesn't have effort in
the game, meaning they're not lookingfor work, they're not getting sober,
they're not addressing some of the issuesthat put them into homelessness. And I
know the homeless advocates are out therelike, no, it's just because rents
are too high. I tell youwhat. The guy was no pants on,

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who's having a conversation with five people? Aren't there? You know,
the invisible people that are just inhis mind. Those people. I don't
think housing in rent is their firstproblem. I don't. And what I
don't like about the advocates is Ireally feel like they ignore the price,

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the costs to society of allowing peopleto live and do drugs and do other
things in these tense cities. Howit's impacted businesses, How it's put businesses
out of business, because who wantsto go somewhere when you got to walk
through a homeless encamp and right,there's a human costs there that the rest

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of us have had to put upwith that I believe they ignore. I
mean, I remember once Drymon downSanta Fe. There's a dude, I
kid you, not no pants on. Now. I'm just lucky that in
the time I took to pass thepantsless man, he did not turn around.
It is not a no interest inseeing the front side. I certainly

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had no interest in seeing the backside, but it's too late for that.
And it's something about that you don'tunsee it. Memory like that lodges in
the brain like a splinter. AndI think about my niece grade school,
she's now junior high. She hadto see she got to see people getting
busy. And I don't mean gettingbusy getting sober, I mean getting busy

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with each other in a way thatbelongs in a bedroom. And uh,
yeah, people have to see thisstuff, and people who work take care
of themselves should not have to seethis stuff, shouldn't have to live with
sception have to step over poop oror barf or whatever. I've seen things.
I can unsee people getting busy withthemselves, if you know what I

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mean, I can't. You can'tunsee that. It's horrible. This person
says it's easy to be an advocatewhen you're spending other people's money, and
I agree with that. There's youknow, if you really, if you,
if you think that it's okay thatpeople don't get sober and don't go
to work, I would love itif you could go live at their house

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or they can come live at yourhouse. I'm happy to support people who
are working towards their own better life, and I'm happy to support people who
are who are so mentally ill theycannot they you know, they can't go
to work sometimes. You know,I've used There are people that you'll see

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who are homeless, who are somentally you'll probably schizophrenic, that they're they're
never going to be able to holda full time job. And I'm happy
to support them. My preferred waysupporting them is for them to be in
a clean, safe institution where theycan get the things that they need,
thanks to a Supreme Court decision,thanks to starting with a JFK and moving

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forward, we've been tossing those peopleout on the street instead of getting them
the institutional care that they need.I will say this, happy to help
you if you're trying to get sober, but you have no right to ruin
a city, to refuse help,to mess up parks, to mess up

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you know, whether it's rats orscabies or whatever. You don't have a
right to push that on other peoplejust because you had a bad upbringing and
maybe a you know, things wentdownhill, and it's it's you know,
you're you're in a bad place.That's we've all been in bad places.
You got to get out of it. You got to get sober. You

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got to avail yourself to the helpthat is being presented to you, and
it is being presented every one ofthose officers I mentioned one I talked about
the increase of citations is that youknow they offer the officers to say,
hey, you know, here's someinformation about where you can go to to
get the help that you need.A job of helpless substance abuse a meal,

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et cetera. And a lot ofthese guys they don't they're not interested.
They're interested in living the life thatthey're currently living, which is on
the street, and that's just notacceptable. You want to go do that
in the middle of nowhere where you'renot affecting other people. Have at it,
But right now you are hurting.You're hurting businesses, you're hurting you

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know. It's I joke that sometimesI've got only got another minute to this
break, is that you don't seea lot of homeless encampments in Cherry Creek,
certainly don't see any homeless encampments ingated communities right where? Do you
see them? Very often? Yousee them in areas where you've got basically

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working families, people who are working, working hard, maybe don't have a
lot of money and are doing thebest they can, and they're the ones
that have to look out their windowand see this stuff. It's not the
wealthy and Cherry Creek that has tolive across the street from a nasty camper

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van where people are smoking crack.So the people who are most harmed by
our very open homeless policies are workingclass people, not cool not cool at
all. If you have a thoughton this, give me like you give
me tap something out for me atfive six six n I oh, Also,

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what did you do if you foundone hundred thousand dollars? Give me
some background on a pretty funny storywhen we get back. This is Chris
Akafer. I'm sitting in for MandyConnell, and you're listening to a fifty
koa. You found one hundred thousanddollars. There's a little hitch to that,
but give in to that in asecond. A person has even emailed
me basically three a statement in threequestions regarding homelessness that I just want to

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address really quickly. This person says, are you suggesting a person living on
the street is going to get cleanand get a full time job again while
living on the street. That willnever happen. And that is the the
I guess, the justification for thewhole housing first thing. And obviously this
person cares about people living on thestreet and wants their best for them.

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Yes you can, and here's howyou do it. The people who go
through the step program, the peoplewho go through the just that a moment
ago, the one that has aDenver Rescue Mission. Yes, sorry,
Little Friday. It is the DenverRescue Mission and the Step Program. I've
been to both. I've been onthe campus of both a couple of times.

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Actually, I've gone there, donea donation, that kind of thing.
I think, oh yeah, AndI also think I served, Yeah,
I even served Thanksgiving there once along time ago. So both excellent
organizations. But here's the deal.They have people coming in all the time
who are not clean, who don'thave work, who come into their organization

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and they do they while, theyget a bed to sleep on, they
get sober, they get help gettinga job. In the case of the
Denver Rescue Mission, you know,as you go through the program, you
get all kinds of things. Thefriend that I'm thinking of left with a
car. They help you every stepof the way. But you've got to

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be part of it. You can'tif you go back to drinking, you
go back to drugs, you getkicked out of the program. But here's
the gracious thing about it is thatyou can come back. If you are
serious about being part of your ownsolution, you can come back. And
this I'm thinking about one friend wentthrough it. You got kicked out and
it came back and then got sober, got a job, got a car,

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found himself in permanent housing. Ityou know, at his own place.
That's how it's done. That's howit's done. The second person says,
the first problem is that nobody willhire a homeless person full time.
So what is your solution if nothousing? First, again, these programs
that we already have that have beenhere for a long time, and I
mentioned too, they're not the onlytwo. There's there's a number of them.

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You you come in the door,you're you know, you're you're not
sober, you don't have a job. You got the clothes on your back,
and they will take you through asystem that allows you to get all
the things that you need. Youjust have to make an effort at staying
clean, and there's support for thatas well, and you have to actually
want to work full time, andthey will help you get that job.

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If clothing is you know, like, oh, I just have this clothes,
you know, the clothing on myback, they'll help you with that.
Any kind of impediment, material impedimentto you getting better can be handled.
But if you don't have any skinin the game, if you're not
willing to get sober, and you'renot willing to work, And I know
for a fact a lot of theseguys aren't. It's not going to happen

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for you. And I think aboutMike Kaufman going undercovers as the mayor of
Aurora, going undercover, hanging outwith guys who are homeless in the camps
and having them tell him directly,we're not interested in help, we're not
interested in getting clean, we're notinterested in working. We get food delivered
right here every day by these wellwishers. We are going to stay where

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we're at. And I guess Iwould challenge people that, you know,
every time you show up with foodfor the homeless, you are enabling them
to stay on the street one moreday. Anytime you give cash to somebody
at the stop late, you areenabling them to stay that way another day
without that cash, without that food. There is a much better chance that

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person is going to say, todayis the day I hit rock bottom.
Today is the day I go tostep Denver, I go to the Denver
Rescue Mission. So I want tomove on. I want to I want
to talk about this guy who ispretty awesome. He's awesome, but what
happened to him is awesome. Sohis his name is James Cain, and

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you know, speaking he lost hisjob during COVID. Happened to a number
of people. Happened to me even, Yeah, I suddenly had no university
classes to teach. The radio wasn'teven taking subs because they didn't want anyone
who was like not the regular peoplehere. I ended up working all kinds
of odd jobs and selling plasma.Yeah, I was like being in college.
Yeah, good times. So buthe started this thing is pretty pretty

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clever. So he gets a giantmagnet and some kind of cable to hold
it and starts fishing things out ofout of the river in Queens. He's
fishing things out of the river andit's probably in all kinds of stuff,
gun done parts, uh, laptops, hard drives from laptops, a lot

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of stuff. He ends have givenover to the police because you know,
maybe they're part of a crime.Well, one day he throws the magnet
over, and this is relatively recently, and he pulls up a safe,
like a money safe. He pullsit up, opens it up and there's
like one hundred thousand dollars in thissafe. So he call, calls the

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police. Probably the money has beenstolen. There's some some dark story by
why why that's safe is in thewater, pulls it up, pulls it
out and uh, the police say, you know you found it, Finder's
keepers, it's yours. The problemis that the money is rapidly turning to
disintegrated mush. It's like it's fullof mud. It's full of it's full

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of water. Who knows how longhas been in there, it's mush.
He saves as much of it ashe thinks he can, sticks it in
a bag. Meanwhile, has becomekind of this celebrity. It's gone on
TV. Everyone's harassing him because ofcourse they want to cut of his cash,
right, Yeah, I know youdon't know me, but I really
need some money. So he endsup taking that cash and makes his way

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hit his wife to Washington, dC. From Queen's and he's where he's
headed is the Treasury Department. Sothe U the Treasury Department has an office
somewhere in that building that handles moneythat has been messed up in some way.

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It's called the Mutilated Currency Division oroffice. And they will piece together
like if you if you're going throughyour grandparents stuff they've passed away. You're
you're the lucky one to clean upthe house and you find, you know,
money that's half disintegrated. It's beenburied somewhere, it's been buried in
the backyard, it's it's been sittingmoldering away. If you can get that

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cash to this office, they havescientific ways to count it and then to
replace it for you for free.Dack's free, don't like be even charge.
So they estimated for this like poutof mush, which by that point
is probably fifty to seventy thousand dollarsin the plastic bag of mush as soon
as they you know, it's goingto take you about nine months to demush

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it enough to where they can countit. Ultimately it's going to be destroyed,
but then they will replace it.So in about nine months, this
guy, this poor guy, youknow, out of work fishing stuff out
of the water, he's going toget between fifty and seventy thousand dollars.
Yeah, pretty pretty sweet, huh. I thought it was a great story,

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absolutely a great story. And youknow, I don't I don't know
that you're going to find anything inthe platte river. That's Colorado's quote unquote
biggest river. If you're from theEast coast and you have seen the Platte
River, you would probably call ita creek. Even it's it's a small
river. It's not not a river. It is a small river. I

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remember the first time I saw thePotomac is huge. But the first time
I saw the Hudson River it lookslike a lake, but like flowing like
a river. It's huge. Socompared to those, it's it's relatively I'm
not gonna you. You may findsomething. I don't know what you would
find if you were fishing around inthere. Probably trash, large, very

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large carp Uh. It's uh yeah, it's it's it's a little crazy,
but good luck. So we're comingup on a break and I i'd something
kind of good comments coming in overthe text line, and uh love to
answer. Then what is the princesays? I'm rich? You're talking to
the person that sold plasma during COVID. I don't know that rich is the

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word I would use to describe myself. Maybe lower middle c. Yeah,
anyway, got some interesting comments thatcame in, and I would like to
hit those. Suppose if I don'tknow if you've ever done this sort of
phishing thing where you're you know,out there pulling up you know, looking
for treasure in water on land.I I this is kind of a cob.

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I realized this. I collect whenI hike and I walk around with
the dog and whatnot. I collectthings. And I have like a collection
of skulls that I found. Nothuman skulls would be really creepy. I
would call the police. I'm talkinganimal skulls and not Well, they're not
worth anything, but they're kind ofcool. This is Krista and sitting there
for Mandy Connell. You're listening toeight fifty KOA. Let me ask you

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something, christ because I was justtalking to our program director Dave Tepper about
this. See if you are inunison with me on this, because you've
lived here for a long are youyou're from you from here? Yeah?
Okay, so you know you wouldknow whether I'm right or wrong. You
can tell me to shut up,or you can tell me, yeah,
you know what you're right. Taperhas example of that's your six years I
would say ten to fifteen years agoand tell me if I'm wrong. We'll

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have to talk to like Dave Fraserabout this. At some point back then,
like ten fifteen years ago, stormshere in Colorado, I usually would
tell people like the I twenty fivecorridor. Typically when storms will get past
I twenty five and go east,that's when they would get nasty, right,
I would say, in the lastfive ten years, storms seem to
develop a lot faster, getting pastthe mountains and hit us a lot harder.

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And they seem to develop along thesouth end too, and then go
north up the front range and startto get nasty around Denver and then North
am I craziest, isn't that thecase? North does get hit pretty bad.
But then you'll also have instances whereCastle Rock just gets bombed. Yes,
and I had a golf ball sizedhail. I got a new roof
out of it. And I've gottennew wind shields twice, one for a

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storm out west and one from astorm out east. You have to pretty
much lock in windshield replacement coverage inyour insurance these days otherwise. Yeah,
and I've got the Colorado dimpled youknow, uh, the top of my
car totally dimpled. Yeah, Idon't even I don't think I currently have
any damage. It's I've had I'vehad this car like only like six months.

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But honestly, like the littlest dns, I'm not even gonna bother with.
I don't even It's just I don'tcare. Just leave them. I
mean, when it gets nasty enoughto like damage your car and then yeah,
like maybe break your windshow, thenthat's a different thing. But I
mean regular dance. It's like,hey, Colorado, Yeah, I'm going
to take out people's sun roofs Ohyour core gardener. I have a sunroof,

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animal roof of my car. It'snasty. And then I'm like a
hardcore gardener made me realize, no, no, I because you were iying
off air. We're just saying Ithink I hate win more than hal.
I forgot that I had a sunroof. I'll take it. I'll take
as much wind as nature has,but I will not hail. I cannot
take it. And part of itis my garden. I mean I have
see that too. We just plantedflowers and I'm also with you there and

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I would like want to throw mybody over the plant to keep it safe.
If a pumpkin, if your pumpkinsmake it through the season, I
want one Okay, okay, youshouldly get one or two. I'll take
two. I want to hit twolast comments before we hit the end of
the hour. Were talking about homelessness, and this person says, nice to
hear your voice, thank you almless. This is such a challenging and complex

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issue. Wholeheartedly. I agree wholeheartedlywith the approaching ror is taking, as
well as the step program in DenverRescue Mission. I have a child who
is homeless and a recovering addict livingin another state. We are so blessed
that she is still alive and allowsus to have some interactions with her.
Yes, it is. It isabsolutely heartbreaking. I have friends that have

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pretty serious substitutes, substance abuse andalcoholis alcoholism issues. One is about to
be back on the street and anotheris just really struggling. So it's tough.
This person says, probably twenty yearsago, my brother and I acquired
an old safe. Yeah, becausewe're talking about the safe too, and

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we're told we could get it.If we could get into it, we
could have what was inside. Wedrove out to the forest and shot it
up enough that we could pry itopen. It was only two sex instructional
VHS tapes and a bag of potseeds. So score, question mark,
that's pretty darn funny. You getthe safe, you're all stoked. There's

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gonna be jewelry, there's gotta bemoney in there, and it's just some
VHS tapes and a pot of seedand a bag of pot seeds, which
get better quality stuff today at astore then you could get twenty years ago
from your local dealers. So notexactly a score. I got to hit
the road, and when we getback, Christian Toto will be joining us

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to talk about controversy in Hollywood aswell as some movies you want to ca
this weekend, So stay tuned.You're listening to eight fifty KOA. Got
a great guest on the line Imove into the break. I teased you
know you wouldn't believe what movie isgoing to be remade? Why? I
know somebody who knows the answer tothat. It's a great film of the

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nineteen eighties, and I don't normallygo for these kind of films. I
need like more car crashes, morezombies, more aliens. But I will
admit it's a good film, andI'm hoping the remake will be as well.
Got on the line Christian Toto.He is an award winning film critic
and podcaster. You can check himout at Hollywood in Toto Toto. Also

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you can do what I did,which is friend him on on Twitter.
So great stuff, great, justgreat insights into Hollywood, but also somebody
who knows quality films. Hey,Christian, welcome to the show. I
love that you love action movies sovery much. I too. I'm so
smart. Okay, so it's soagainst type, but I like that.
I like your range. Well Iknow that, you know, because you

(30:59):
were so I used to take meto see Fall Guy and you thought it
was okay, and I thought itwas absolutely fantastic because car chases people flying
through the air. That's that's thekind of stuff I get into. And
you know, the movie did wellwith people, and I think critics liked
it, but didn't quite catch onwith box office in general. But it
may have a good second life onhome video. I know I'll be watching

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that. Then what's this face?Looks pretty fine to me? But another
action film coming out this weekend thatyou know I'm going to be at.
The question is are you going tobe there? Which one is that I
know Inside Out Too is opening thisweekend? Oh maybe? Yeah? But
did Bad Boys open last weekend?Oh? That was? That was last
weekend. I saw it and alot of other people did. And it's

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fun. It's Will Smith and MartinLawrence have great chemistry. It's so easy.
It's just comfortable. It's fun towatch, and the action beats work.
And you know, I will saythat, you know people are saying,
you know, can people forgive theslaps from Will Smith's repertoire from a
couple of years ago? And Ithink the box office says yes. But
I've been chatting about him in themovie and the slap on social media and

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a lot of people are still notready for dif and forget. So enjoyed
the movie, but if you're notin a Will Smith frame of mind,
you might not want to go seeit. Can't You think that there's kind
of unequal standards for forgiveness when itcomes to Hollywood, because I know they
still don't forgive mel Gibson, butthere are other people that they're like,
hey, yeah, come on back. She just seems I think Roseanne Barr

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is the perfect example. She firedoff a gross racially charged tweet she immediately
apologized. She claims that she wason medication and that she didn't realize the
person in question was black. It'sValerie Jarrett, and she has been wiped
off the Hollywood map. I mean, they took away her show, they
killed off her character. She hasnot worked in Hollywood since then. She's

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had to basically work around the system. So she's got a podcast and she's
on wire plus shows. But Ithink that's a great example because that's just
one really ugly, gross tweet,and yet other people have done much worse,
either said worse things or you knowactions, you know, I mean,
do we have to remind everyone thatHollywood gave Roman Polansky at standing elevation

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a few years back, and weall know what he was up to,
so you know, it's yeah,you're absolutely right. Yeah, it's unequal
standards. And I'm really glad thatRob Lowe and Robert Downey Jr. Were
able to get past there. Youknow, they made some poor choices when
they were young, but then gotit together went on to have careers.
My question is, why can't wehave that for most people. I realized
there are some things that are justtoo egregious, But you know, slapping

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somebody. It was really stupid.But I don't see how you don't forgive
that and move on. There wasa documentary coming out I leave next month.
It's called Sorry Not Sorry, andit looks at Louis c k.
Now, he was one of thebiggest comedians around, very popular. Hollywood
loved him, movies, TV shows, you name it. And then we
realized what he did off screen infront of several women and say what it

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is. But I think we allknow, and you know, he really
has not been forgiven. He isalso someone who's had to forge a career
outside of Hollywood, I guess theecosystem, for lack of a better phrase,
and he's done it quite well.But they have forgiven him either.
And the film is going to explorethat, explore the women that he was
inappropriate with, and I'm looking forwardto that. I think it's a fascinating

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subject. And yeah, listen,he did more than send off a bad
tweet. He made women feel horriblyuncomfortable and to say with the release,
so yeah, I would have beenuncomfortable, Yeah, absolutely, But as
an older woman, I would havebeen like, put that away now before
a lawsuit happens. But the guythe the commentator used to be a commentator

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I think for CNN and during thezoom call decided to get you know,
busy with himself. He's back on. Oh yeah, if he go on,
why can't Louis c K. Imean, I don't know, it's
just double standards. Yeah, Andyou know, I think some of this
is subjective. How much did weenjoy the actor in question or the personality,

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what was the reputation prior to it. It could be a male and
female thing where certain you know,certain different different standards are set up.
You know, there's there's lots ofthings here. But I think when the
when the differences are so egregious,and I think the Roseanne bar case is
a crime example. It makes meangry honestly because it's not fair. And

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you know, I listened Roseanne barbroke the glass ceiling for women in comedy.
She threw I don't mean this asI don't mean to comme in a
way, but she threw her weightaround on the show and showed that a
woman could be in charge and couldcontrol things and could have the power to
shape a show. I mean,she did a lot of things that were
important and she gave a voice toblue collar women everywhere with Roseanne, and

(35:52):
all those things were just pushed asidebecause of one really ugly, awful tweet.
Well, and I don't know howshe's not allowed back on, and
yet the commentator who did what hedid on Zoom he is because that is
far more egregious. I feel badfor those co workers because you can unsee
that. Yeah, and you knowyou would think that if you're CNN,

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there are a lot of legal analyststhat you could choose from who might be
either as qualified as Jeffrey Tuben ormaybe less a total less embarrassing than mister
Tuban. So you know why thesethings happen. I don't know, but
there's lots of hypocrisy, there's lotsof double standards, and not a lot
of logic, that's for sure.I'm glad you remembered his name. It
seems like Tuben could become a verbanyway. You also mentioned Colorado inside Out.

(36:36):
That's Sun Channel twelve. You mentionedinside Out too, and it sounds
like it's pretty cute, it's adorable, it's you know, it's obviously a
sequel from me. I think it'stwenty fifteen or so with Amy Poehler of
voicing some of the emotions in anda Girl's Head, it was a great
concept. It was sweet. Itwas sort of when Pixar made really good
movies back in the day, whichis not so long ago, and it

(37:00):
areas on the tradition. It isnot a culture war film. It is
not woke. It's just about alittle girl. She's getting older, she's
going through puberty, she wants toplay in her hockey team, and she's
dealing with some emotions and of coursehave anxiety along with joy and sadness and
all the other ones. You know. It's not a great movie, but
it's family friendly, it's sweet,it's charming. I'm a huge fan of

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Ami Polar I just think she's reallytalented, and even though you don't see
her, just the way her vocalinflections go, I think make them really
special. So if you enjoyed InsideOut one, I can't imagine you not
enjoying this new one. I thoughtit was absolutely durable the first one,
and I was worried that the secondone might have an agenda, have some
kind of you know, because someof these Hollywood films they have really tried

(37:45):
to push their sexual morality on otherpeople in children's films, which I think
is wrong. Adult sexuality should bethe subject of adults, not pushed on
kids. And I was worried thatInside Out Too they might push that line,
but it sounds like they didn't.They didn't, and you know,

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this is Pixar, which is ownedby Disney, and Disney has been one
of the main culprits and what you'retalking about, and they didn't. And
it's a good thing, and it'sa sweet film. And the one thing
I will say I find this humorousis that Disney is obsessed with diversity,
and diversity on paper is a wonderfulthing. Hollywood for too long has kept
people different backgrounds out of the picture, didn't let them use their voice tell

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their stories. So there is goodchange happening with it, Tellywood. But
when you watch Disney movies lately,including Inside Out Too, the diversity of
this little girl's hockey team, it'sso over the top. And you know,
hockey as a sport tends to differentcultures sort of. You know,
it's European players, it's Canadian players, it's American players. There's not a

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lot of diversity in the sport.It just is what it is. But
when you watch this movie, it'slike it's like one of the commercials you
see with all the So it's justa humorous aside. But again it's not
an attended movie. It's just asweet film. So you can definitely check
it out. And and if shewas trying to join the basketball team,

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would they do the same, youknow what they make sure there was like
you know, uh, exact diversityin sports where you might have a slightly
different look. Well, baseball woulddata. You know, a lot of
baseball players come straight from the DominicanRepublic. You don't see a lot of
tall Swedish guys. I mean yousee some, but not nearly as many

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as you might see on a hockeyteam. Yeah, baseball is much more
diverse. Of course the NBA isas well, but hockey is not.
It just white guys with no teThey all have their teeth. God blessings.
Yeah, I'm with you there.Speaking of diversity, you sent me

(39:57):
an interesting article that says the growingclash against DEI has Hollywood elites hitting the
panic button. Unpacked that a littlebit for me. Well, you know,
Hollywood after the George Floyd situation wasgetting deep involved with d d EI
with diversity measures. You know,we saw it in the Oscars. They

(40:19):
made a new Oscar push where theBest Picture nominees had to check certain boxes
to be qualified. So all ofthat. But then Hollywood economics went south.
Streaming platforms are suffering. The boxoffice has had a rough early startup
that I think it's going to pickup right now. You know, there's
a contraction behind the scenes. Thestrike has had a fall out, the

(40:40):
two strikes from last year, sothey can't afford it anymore. So you're
seeing some of these DEI experts havebeen let go. Some of the policies
are being either discarded or diminished oryou know, ratcheted down, and some
people are freaking out about it.But you know, often when it comes
down to you know, dollars andnumbers, you just can't go there because

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it's extensive. And I think thatHollywood is scrambling to get out of the
red into the black. And oneof the reasons, one of the reasons
of doing it that they're coming backin DEI. Yeah, and I you
know again, I think DEI canbe good in the sense of being more
inclusive, but it can also bekind of obnoxious, and it's I think
it's a question of walking that fineline. And I think when you have

(41:23):
too many people on the payroll thatare assigned to that, that's probably when
it becomes kind of obnoxious, becausethen you have people really pushing for things.
I'm thinking more about schools than movies. But it it can be good,
it can be bad, but youdon't want to have too many people
sitting around with you know the ideaof doing something. At some point that

(41:45):
doing something means not being inclusive,but actually excluding other people in order to
be quote unquote inclusive. And Ithink that's where things go wrong. Yeah.
Absolutely, And we've also seen atthe academic level that a lot of
these experts are floods. I mean, the plagiarism charges have been rather profound

(42:07):
that it was in just one ortwo cases, multiple cases. So you
know, why is that happening withinthat community? A question for a different
day with a better set of expertise. It's not my jam, but that's
fascinating too. But yeah, it'sHollywood had a good run for a while,
and you know, you could evensay during the Trump years the economy
was better by the year's economy isworse. There's more than that. I
mean, there's a lot of changegoing on in Hollywood. I'm actually sympathetic

(42:30):
to the industry is you know,you have to compete with social media,
with YouTube, with rumble, withall these different ways to entertain ourselves,
and it's hard. They're going tohave to make some tough choices. They're
gonna have to lower the budgets,they're going to have to innovate more,
and they're going to be in fora tough spell, and they don't want
to spend the money on DEI apparently, Well that's yeah. I'm glad there.

(42:51):
It may be an area that theyprobably should be cutting back. I've
got a question for you a movieremake that I think I could be excited
about, even though it's side ofmy usual genre of things blowing up.
But I did want to give ashout out to four television shows that I
have absolutely loved for which there's beenzero agenda, and those are Dark Matter

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that's an Apple program, Sugar,which is probably my favorite of the year
with Colin Farrell. He's just brilliantin it, A show called Severance,
which I just started, and Fallout, which is a prime show. All
four of those were you are uniqueinteresting and there's no there's just no agenda.
It's to be entertaining and be interesting. Yeah, I'm hoping for more

(43:37):
of that. I think a lotof those thwods are Apple productice. It's
the one service I don't get.But I've heard good things about all the
above. Listen, you know whenwe talk about woke and agenda and all
these things, you know, ifyou watch a movie and there are some
compelling themes and some of them arepolitical and some of them are cultural,
that's not only good, but actuallycan be better because it's making it a

(43:57):
richer presentation. It's giving you somethingthat's think about. But I think that
modern storytellers are so in love withthat agenda and so in love with that
potential that they make it heavy handedand it overwhelms their artistic sensibilities. So
I think what you're clamoring for,and what you're acknowledging is that some shows
just tell a story and that canbe wonderful. And I'm sure you know,

(44:20):
I know Separence is a workplace drama, and I bet you there are
some really kind of meaty themes there, But the bottom line is that it's
very well done. I believe it'sbeen still are directing that he's a very
talented director in a position being afunny guy. So yeah, I mean
people want that. And another thingabout the Hollywood ecosystem and the money situation
is that some of this woke stuffjust doesn't sell. So, you know,

(44:43):
we've seen programs in recent times,like there was a Grease prequel series
there was Willow that were pretty agendadriven and both got just canceled almost immediately.
They think they were even taken offtheir perspective platforms for money saving options.
So yeah, you know, justtell a story. You can have
different of themes, you can kindof tell something you want to share.
But I think if you do iton a subconscious level, on a kind

(45:05):
of a quiet level, I thinkyou get better bang for your buck.
I couldn't agree more. And onething I would like that I do like
about Hollywood is they're starting to havefemale leads that aren't necessarily gorgeous. Pretty,
yes, but not necessarily gorgeous,and more in the age range of

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the male character in Sugar, thewoman who plays his opposite is actually in
real life a couple of years older. She's attractive, but they're both in
their fifties and they look good.But it's not like they needed to find
a twenty five year old. Ilike. I don't know if that's because
more women are part of the writingand producing of these films, but I

(45:51):
like that we're sort of we're allowingother women, women who are attractive but
more normal looking, to take theselead roles. As a woman, I
can completely get behind that. Outof the viewer, I can get behind
that as well. I mean,it actually becomes almost comical when you have
a fifty something now actor with atwenty something, you know, love interest.
It seems I mean, I knowit does happen in your life,

(46:14):
but it's not happening all the time. And yeah, I mean, I
think there is progress happening in Hollywood. I think you mentioned maybe having more
women being the creative side of things, where they're making that possible. I
think that's wonderful. So I thinkit's a good change. I think Hollywood
has a lot of guilt to someof their actions over the years, and
I think when I was watching moviesin the eighties and nineties, you see

(46:34):
this big movie and you had themain star, and then you'd have the
wife, and the wife would bea good actress who got maybe six lines
and just said go get him soand so she was so poorly to fine.
She was one dimensional, and Ithink we're seeing less of that now,
and again a good thing. Youwant to have more rotbust stories and
these actresses deserve their time. Ithink the only thing that's still remaining that's

(46:54):
said is that how many actresses areyou know, asked or forced or feel
the need to go through plastic surgeryto appear forever young. But that's that's
an industry problem and how it wasobsessed by youth, so that that's not
going to be six right away,Yeah, hopefully in time. Do you
have any idea who they're going tocast for the remake of an Officer and
a Gentleman and do you think they'regoing to make any substantial changes to the

(47:17):
plot line. Well, I believeMiles Keller is attached. I think that's
the one big name so far.He's an excellent actor, and I think
it's a great choice. I'm justa bit exhausted by all the remakes,
and I do know that my memoryof the film was a little bit wobbly,
but I remember at the end andto the whole movie, so it's
a no spoiler here. Richard Gearcarries Debor Winger, physically carries her.

(47:40):
I think he goes to meet herat her job and he kind of rescues
her, so to speak. AndI'm thinking, oh, yeah, they
can't do that today, So I'msure it'll be quite different. And I
just hope it's good though. Ihope so too, because I did enjoy
it when you know when it cameout, and it is it is romantic
guy that is in an aviation programwho falls in love with a woman who

(48:02):
works at a factory, and kindof his growing up, his becoming a
better man is kind of the coreof the story if I remember right.
Yeah, I think it's an interestingtheme, timeless And again, I met
my Ale Tell a few years ago. I was very impressed by him.
I just think he's got range.He's great in the Tapa Marverick thing,

(48:22):
and I think I think women willswoon to see him in a uniform and
just a hunt I don't. Iremember a few years I saw a movie.
It was Clint Eastwood's son. Ithink Scott Eastwood and he shows up
to a date in the movie andhe had a bouquet of flowers in his
hands, and I swear the womenin the theater where just I could feel

(48:44):
them forward. It was such anold fashioned throwback gesture. But sometimes those
things are very popular and coming wrongwith them. I think that Denzel Washington's
son is just beautiful. I wouldlike him to show up at my door
with that book. Okay, toomuch to ask? Is it too much
to ask? You know, youcan always ask, that is true.

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One quick question before before I letyou go, and that is that a
listener's asked if you've seen Long Legsyet. No, that is a horror
movie. It's coming soon. Ithink Nicholas Cage and oh my gosh,
it's got tons of buzz. I'vegot that movie correctly, I think I
do. So that one might bea few weeks away. I have not
seen it. I'm a horror fanatic. I can't wait. I just hope

(49:30):
there's not too much hype where it'snot really going to lift up to it.
But yeah, that one's definitely fun. The radar. Yeah, well,
I tell you what you get aguest past for that I'll go with
you, but I may be oneof those people that spends half of it
with my eyes closed and my handover my eyes because I am pathetic.
Well, as you're talking, nottalking in the movie, you're welcome.
Okay, singing's loud, I'll asksomeone else. No, I promised to

(49:53):
be good. So Christian Tota,give us your website, so I want
people to check you out if theyhaven't already. Yep, it is Hollywood
Intotototo dot com. Also have apodcast, the Hollywood and Total Podcast,
and it is brand new to YouTubeand the Rumble and so it's I want

(50:13):
to call it a work in progress. I think that the content is good,
but I've got to add some morebells and whistles. But I'm having
fun and got to join the YouTuberevolution sometimes. Well, fantastic, thanks
for coming on today. We'll haveyou back on soon. Sound good.
That was Christian Toto and yeah,catch this stuff. He's great. There's
not a lot of film critics outthere, people who do a deep dive
on Hollywood who are on the rightside of the spectrum. So I think

(50:36):
he's fantastic. And I every nowand again I get one of those guests
passes. So yeah, that's prettysweet. So when we get back,
let's let's tackle something completely different.And that's how Excel Energy is going to
make your winner pretty darn miserable.You're back at a jip. This is
Christy k for Um sitting in forMandy Connell, and you're listening to eight
fifty KOA. Weather pattern seems tobe holding, but I think as things

(50:59):
get a little out of hand andmake sure you are tuned in here to
find out what's up. Christa.Yes, you're sheltered right now. So
our point of view is looking outto the east. Yes, I just
walked around to the other side ofour building looking due west. Okay,

(51:19):
in dark, dark, dark clouds, I don't see anything past a wall
of death coming our way. Ohthat's super Yeah, it looks great.
So I'm one of those people thataround mid March started all of my vegetable
plants indoors. So I've got thesebeautiful big pumpkins, squash plants, all
pea plants that are already like twofeet tall and producing. I have lots

(51:43):
of beautiful plants, planting, gardening. It's my life, my both of
my my front yard and backyard looklike they're part of the botanic gardens.
And so the idea of hay worstpossible sake. I would whether my car
be hit, I wouldether I behit my garden. Wow, that's dedication,
Yeah, because I know it's youput in that much work and you

(52:06):
come home and it's chopped to pieces. They've all come out and been planted,
and it's you know, it's aprocess. So you let it.
I let them grow until mid Mayand then you bring them out. You
got to harden them off because theyput them out in the sun just freak
out. So they have in theDenver metro area. Like any community indoor
gardens you've ever thought of getting involved, It's kind of interesting. I think

(52:29):
the only indoor gardens out there ofthe marijuana variety. Ah, yes,
but yeah, they actually you knowthey do there. I've heard of plan.
You know, what do you dowith all of these old office buildings
or uh, industrial buildings that youcan't fill up. Is it possible then
to fill them with indoor gardenings andhydroponics? What does that look like?

(52:50):
And could you feed the world thatway? I think there's some interesting possibilities
there because you control it there you'vegot you don't have any bugs, but
you also have to add light.And one of the things that that sort
of the dirty secrets of the marijuanagrows is that they take an inordinate amount
of electricity. So you've heard soI've heard not at my house man,

(53:16):
but the yeah, those if youlook at if you're doing an energy map
of the city of Denver, thebright the bright spots on that map would
be where the grows are. Theyjust require an enormous amount of light and
energy. But you're not going tohear that from the enviros. Probably not
speaking of enviros, our lovely legislatureand governor have put some directives on Excel,

(53:39):
the electricity monopoly that has a strangleholdhere in Denver, and they've like,
you have to cut emissions by acertain date, get to it.
And there is a four hundred andforty million dollar plan right now to cut
greenhouse emissions and some of that's goingto be done through efficiencies, and I

(54:00):
think that's just fine. The otherpart, though, is to push homes
and businesses away from natural gas andon to the electricity grid. And there
are some problems with this, Somebig problems with this, and the article
that I looked at also suggests thatthere could be a windfall of profits for

(54:22):
Excel at whose expense? At myexpense? Yeah, at your expense,
especially at my expense because I havehot water heat. I moved in this
house built in the nineteen fifties,had a had a boiler that I would
call a frank and boiler. Sofrank and boiler. It had lots and
lots of different parts, like somebodyhad just sort of cobbled together this thing

(54:47):
over time, and eventually it gotto a point where the person who had
been kind of working with it tokeep it alive said, this, Franken
boilers, it's going down. SoI ended up getting a new one put
in about two years ago. It'svery efficient. Even so, it is
natural gas, a very clean burningfossil fuel that has fallen out of favor

(55:10):
with your enviros. In fact,they hate it. They want to get
rid of it, and they wanteveryone pushed over to electricity. And one
of the ways they're going to dothat is that they're only going to raise
electricity rates one point one percent,but they're going to jack up natural gas
rates seven percent. I'm not goingto feel that rate now because my hot

(55:34):
water heater is by the only thingthat operates in the summer that takes natural
gas. But once we go intothe winter, I have both a fireplace
and my general heating, and I'mone of those people that keeps the house
between sixty two and sixty five degrees. I'm very hot blooded. I wear
short sleeve shirts in the winter.People come over to my house and I
keep afghans out so they can bundlethemselves up. I also have a very

(55:59):
small house, so in one way, I am very frugal when it comes
to energy. I don't have aton I don't have a huge carbon footprint.
And I'm just just a little resentfulof folks out there that have a
giant house that is all electricity.They're only going to get a one point

(56:20):
one percent increase in their electrical bill, and me and my little house,
because I happen to have hot waterheat, I get to pay a whole
heck of a lot more. Thatirritates me. And here's another reason that
irritates me right now. The biggestsource of energy in this state is coal.
Coal is a high emissions also ashigh particulate as well, two different

(56:45):
things, but also high CO twofor the burning of that for our heat,
so thirty seven percent. It's gottenway down over the years, which
is great. But coal is themain thing for the state of color,
followed by wind twenty nine percent,natural gas twenty seven percent, six percent

(57:06):
at solar, and three percent athydro, and hydro's basically maxed out for
the most part. It's you onlycan use your bigger rivers for that,
so like the little creek down thestreet from me, not getting getting power
off of that. Wind and solarare are good. The problem with them
though, is they're intermittent. Thereare areas where there's a lot of wind,

(57:31):
and that's that's great. Use itthere. But also if it's a
major flyway for migratory birds, youdon't you don't want it there. It
kills a lot of birds. Notthe main killer of birds. You know
what the main killer of birds is. It's cats. It's people who let
their cats outside and don't put abell on the collar. So I yeah,

(57:52):
it's going to make some people mad. How about to keep your cat
inside or put a bell on thecollar. Now, it's different. If
you've got a r you've got working. Cats are taking care of rodents.
But if you're just letting your tomcatoutside because you don't want him inside,
he's out there killing birds as wespeak, songbirds. The major killer of

(58:13):
birds is cats. So unless thatcat's got a job, is a rodent
killer at your ranch or farm,put a bell on the collar or bring
that cat inside. Not much wecan do about, unfortunately, about the
big wig turbines that kill all kindsof birds. Not the biggest killer.
Buildings and cars and cats are thebiggest killers, but wind turbines kill quite

(58:39):
a bit as well. Speaking ofkilling, I'm kidding the breaks sign kill
this segment if you will. Thisis Christy Kafer. I'm sitting in for
Mandy Connell. Catch your comments onthis on the backside of this break.
The seven percent hike in natural gas. Can't say that I like that,

(59:04):
Yeah, especially given the fact thatso thirty seven percent of our power comes
from coal, twenty nine percent wind, twenty seven natural gas, six percent
solar, three percent hydro. Iwould like to see instead of you know,
wind, wind does. It isgood. It's intermittent, though,
and it does it's ugly. It'sa it's it's a blight. As far

(59:25):
as I'm concerned on the landscape,I don't care if it's some more remote,
but it's it's they're not pretty.And as this person who just texts
in points out, they kill raptors. It's big birds, not just big
birds. About a half a millionbirds die every year from wind turbines,
also bats, about half a millionbats. And it's not just that the

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bats hit the turbines, it's thechange in pressure as the blade comes around
can actually do something to the lungsof the bats and kill those bats.
And there's already pressure on bats speciesright now because of a fungus disease that
attacks them when they're hibernating. I'mnot saying we should ditch, absolutely ditch

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turbines. I'm just saying we needto use them only in specific area,
is in only specific ways, sothat we don't have this kind of cost
to flying animals. It bothers me. Secondly, I would love for us
to look at how we can decommissionthese coal plants so that they will We

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can do that with nuclear. Ifyou have enough water to supply a coal
plant, chances are you have enoughwater also for a small nuclear plant.
And I want to give hats offto Bill Gates as he is looking at
creating the most high tech nuclear plantever made in Wyoming, and it hopefully

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will be a test of how wecan build these in the future, smaller,
more efficient, you know, safe, I mean, nuclear power is
pretty safe. We have not hada big accident in the state. We've
had none in this state, andwe did have a nuclear plant here for
a while. Well, we've onlyhad one even close to an accident in

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this country, and that would beThree Mile Island where we have seen seen
it around the world, of course, would be in what is now Ukraine
under the USSR Chernobyl huge and notthe fault of the atoms involved total human
error. And also the nuclear plantthat was in Japan. I don't think

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you want to put them on faultlines, just saying be specific about where
you put them. The reason thatI'm ticked off about my power going up
in this case the power that suppliesmy heat gas heat. That. Yeah.
Part of the issue with that isthat if I go total electricity,
I am now, I mean,we're still pretty heavy on coal, whereas

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I'm using natural gas. Natural gasis less of a pollutant than coal.
So yeah, until they can bringthat share of coal down for our energy
source, they don't need to bepushing electrification on people like me. It
really bugs me. This person heresays wind and solar suck. How about

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without subsidies, they are by farthe most expensive form of production. You
know, I think they have theirplace. I particularly like solar on buildings.
I don't like these huge solar plantswhere they modify the landscape. It's
an eyesore. It changes the environment. I think it can be used on
certain farms where you're planting in betweenthe solar power. I also think it's

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an appropriate thing to put on buildings. I think we could see a lot
more of that, But I don'twant to see whole landscape apes out there.
This person says nuclear fission is thedirtiest power there is. Go fusion.
We don't have the technology for furefusion yet. Cold fusion was a
bust, and fusion they are they'retrying. What they have to do for

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fusion is that there is nothing you'rebasically creating an eaty beat sun, and
there's nothing on this planet that canwithstand the heat of that of fusion of
atoms coming together. So the onlyway you can hold it is with giant
magnets and having a giant magnetic fieldthat holds that in place. And how

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do you do that? And thereare obviously experiments going on with that.
Fission depends on how you say something'sdirty. It produces absolutely no carbon emissions.
It does produce nuclear waste. Wheredo you put that waste when you're
finished with it? That's a bigquestion. But I can honestly say there

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is no there's no perfect energy sourceout there. There are always costs.
There's some benefits. We need powerto run our lives, but they're always
costs. And I tell you what. It just kills me when I see
some enviro saying, you know,no more fossil fuels, and they're standing
there in front of their Subaru withtheir Starbucks coffee and their you know,

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top notch apparel that they got anRII and of course if it has any
synthetic fiber in it, that fiberis hopefully fossil fuel based fiber. And
they're like, I just can't takefossil fuels, honey, everything about you
is fossil fuels. Accept it.We'll get back after this break, let's

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talk a little bit about uh yeah, Dave Williams and uh what a cretan
he Uh yeah, uh he's strikingback at the those who are trying to
take him out of the chairmanship.Also a fiddle judge did right by women.
We will talk about that when weget back. This is Krista Kaefer.

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I am sitting in for Mandy Connellwith a rod and you're listening to
eight fifty Koway or a break.A rod and I were checking out,
checking out the weather apps and watchingthose storms come in. So you're gonna
want to stay tuned here because we'llhave the latest breaking here at eight to
fifty KOWA. And I Hale isthe worst possible thing. I'm a huge

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gardener. Gardening is like it's myhobby. I love it so much,
and I already already getting delicious thingsout of my garden. The idea that
Hale could come down and just wipeme out, it should be like it's
like the fifth horse of the apocalypse. Hale. I absolutely did test it,

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so hopefully dodged that bullet or bullets, I should say, of Hale.
So I gotta give you an updateon the whole Dave Williams thing.
So Dave Williams is this grifter.He's run for a whole bunch of offices.
I think he was in the stateHouse for a term, maybe two,
but he keeps running and losing.Is now running to replace Lamborne.

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I'm hoping he loses. He's agrifter, big time by grifter. He
takes money on false pretenses and spendsit another stuff himself. So if you've
sent a donation to the Colorado GOP, chances are he's used that to fund
his own race. That's what hedoes. He endorsed himself and his friends,

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some of his friends total crackpots whoare not going to win the primary,
and they've devoted resources to sort ofholding these people up when in fact
they shouldn't be running at all.And it's a terrible disappointment, not shocking.
We've known who he was for along time. I don't know how
he got this position at the ColoradoGOP. Addition to endorsing people in the

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primary, which you're not supposed todo, and then using using that position
to endorse himself to promote himself isa deeply unethical person and he's kind of
going to step beyond that. Andthis is where it finally, finally was
too much for some people. Hedecided to send out this Pride anti Pride

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email and it has this picture ofJesus on it with glowing red eyes,
which is not the Jesus that Iworship. So I don't I don't know
who this guy is we call him, let's just call him the Maga Savior.
Just keep things simple, blazing redeyes. And then it says God
hates flags, which of course isa you know, supposed to rhyme.

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Call it a hate rhyme if youwill, with God hates I don't.
I don't like I'm supposed to sayon the air fags, which is what
the Westboro Baptist people that cult useto show up at signs with that at
the funerals of soldiers. And nowthat we haven't had very many, we
haven't had a whole lot in theway of war lately, we've had,

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thank goodness, fewer soldier deaths andfunerals. They've really cut back in their
hate filled hobby, the Westboro BaptistChurch. And I guess maybe the Maga
Savior told Dave Williams with his blazingred eyes, not Dave Williams blazing red
eyes. The picture of Jesus I'mtalking about. Told Dave Williams that he

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needed to take up the slack andso he did this. God hates flags
anti Pride months. Now. Idon't celebrate Pride Month. It's not my
thing. If it's your thing,you can do it. My whole thing
is that you don't push it onother people, and you don't let people
push their stuff on you. Soif you want to wear let's say you've

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got you work somewhere where you wearpins like they it's Starbucks. If you're
allowed to wear pins, do youwant to wear a flag pin Pride pin?
You should be able to do that. Same goes for t shirts.
That said, you should also neverforce your employees to wear Pride prayer Fernalia
shirts buttons. It should be completelyfree will. And that's how it is

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with all holidays, right. Noone should be forced to celebrate Christmas or
Thanksgiving or any kind of month orday. I have a handful of holidays
that I like to celebrate. There'sother holidays I don't do. I don't
do Pride Month, I don't doRamadan. I don't do yam kapor.
I don't do kwanza. I don'tcare if you do, you do you,

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but I don't do it. AndI think that's the way it ought
to be, is you do yourthing, I do my thing. We're
not going to push it on people, whether it's students or employees, but
we're also going to let those studentsand employees if they want to celebrate and
embrace that, they have every rightto do so. One thing that we
don't do is send out hate filledemails that encourage people to burn pride flags,

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that push the narrative that everyone outthere who is gay is a groomer,
is, you know, using thegirl's bathroom. That kind of stuff
is false and it pans a lotof it hurts real Americans, good people,

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decent people who are in same sexrelationships when you do that, and
that's what this thing does. Itis such a hate filled email that it
finally got under the skin of thepeople on the Central Committee who are now
saying, you know, maybe weshouldn't have this guy. Maybe the hate

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filled an email is gone a steptoo far, so they've called for his
resignation. I'm going to give alittle hats off to Nancy pal azoal Pelosi,
Pelosi, one of those Italian names. She is the chairman of or
chairwoman of the jef CO County Republicans, and she's the one that launched this

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petition to call for a vote tohave him removed. Very brave, very
brave of her, especially given thepushback. Now Dave Williams and his enablers
are saying, if you, youknow, those of you who have have
have come out against my chairmanship,we are going to tell your constituents that

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you are pro pride right, whetheryou're you're a lot of these folks are
like me neutral. I'm not intoit. I'm not not into I just
you do your thing right. AndI don't know if this involves doxing people
as well. What this involves doxing, of course, is giving away people's

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addresses. But they definitely want togo after these folks and portray them as
being quote unquote pro groomer, whichis a terrible thing to do. The
pushback is heinous. This guy's gotto go. You got a thought on
this, I'm at he said eightsix six' five oho, no,

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five six six nine? Oh?Did I get it right? That time.
Yeah, I'd love to have yourthoughts on it, and I know
it breaks it in an odd place. We're gonna take a break now,
but we'll be back in a jiff. Your thoughts on this when we get
back. This is Christa Kaefer sittingin for Mandy Connell in eight fifty Koa.
It's got this picture of Jesus withblazing red eyes and I called it

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the Mega Savior. And you knowwhat, two people have taken me to
task for it, and I thinkyou're both right. It is Uh.
I went too far, and Iapologize and won't do it again. But
anyway, that the email was gross. Another person just texted and said,
I don't know why you right wingersare upset with Dave Williams. I'm sure
evangelicals love him. Actually, he'sgetting so much pushback by so many people

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religious, not religious, Jewish,Christian, Agnostic, whatever. I think
most people think that what he didwas hateful and gross and not representative of
the Republican Party. There's a lotof diversity of opinion there. I will
say this is I guess his secondin command. Hope sheple mean if I'm

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messing up her name, but sheaccused those that are trying to disthrone the
man as wanting to quote purge conservativeChristians from the party, conservative Christians like
Dave Williams from the party. Idon't know that Dave is a Christian,
to be honest. I know hesays he is. Maybe he's got a

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crash that he puts on his mantleat Christmas. But he does some really
inethical, unethical and war things.And Christians obviously not perfect, but there
should be some indication that it's apart of your life. Just saying,

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can't know a person's heart. SoI don't know, you know, I
don't know or not he may ormay not be I don't know. I
will say this, and I've probablyused this analogy before. I'm a big
gardener. I tend to start myseedlings inside and then take them outside.
And a lot of times I losethe label, like you know, because
the pot's got wet. The littlelabel that says what it is falls off.

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So I have things in my gardenI don't know what they are.
I sometimes I figure it out,but usually I have to wait until it
bears fruit. When it bears fruit, I can be like, oh,
so that's where the pumpkin is,or that's where the squash is. Oh,
that's what that is? Okay,And I will say this for people.

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Somebody says they're a Christian, Ithink you have every right to be
like, okay, pal, where'sthe fruit? And everybody has a bad
season or I get that. Icertainly do myself, But I think you
can look at people and say,I see a lot of see a lot
of bad stuff here. I don'tsee a lot of good stuff. Not
saying, not saying, you're nota Christian, but the lack of good

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stuff is starting to give me somedoubts. This person just text in and
says I am an evangelical Christian.I think that Dave Williams is a clown
and a disgusting person. I agreehe's a disgusting person, and I think

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it's time to remove him because he'smaking the party look really bad. There
are people like him in the party, but not everyone is like him.
Fact, most people are not likehim. It's like taking a Casio Cortes
right AOC and saying every Democrat islike that. Every Democrat is not like

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that. Give me a break,try to get out more see other people.
So talking about his desire to orour desire and the desire of other
Republicans to get this guy out.Poor Nancy Pelosi just got centered by her
own county party. I've been centeredby my own county party as well,
which is nice. I've been centeredby the Arapa Ho Party, a Rapahoe

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Republican Party, and also the stateparty. And you know what feels good.
Bring it on. I'm hoping toget centered by the National Committee.
I say, go big, Nancy. I'm right with you. Okay,
let's talk about somebody doing the rightthing and got some court decisions. We'll
go over that over the next hour. It's going to scout his decision.

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That's kind of interesting. And thenwe also have a judge that has done
the right thing, and I'm goingto tease it here a little bit,
and then we've got to hit abreak, and that is it's one of
these federal judges that the decision onlyapplies to four states, Louisiana, Mississippi,
Montana, and Idaho. It's kindof an odd district, huh.

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But it's a federal judge and hehas blocked the expansion of Title nine in
four states. This expansion, thisabuse of power by the Biden administration to
twist the words of Title nine.Title nine protects girls and boys, but

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particularly has been a benefit to girlsforbids discrimination against biological males and biological females,
and the Biden administration is trying toforce it to cover men that live
as women and women who live asmen, and that same goes with boys
and girls and those who wish tolive as the opposite sex, and in

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doing so has really put women ina bad situation. And thank you for
this federal judge. Unpack that plusthe Scotus decision, Scotus being the acronym
for the Supreme Court of the UnitedStates. We'll get back with that when
I returned. This is Christa Kaefer. I'm sitting in for Mandy Connell,

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and you're listening to eight fifty KOA. The one at first, sure,
I can say, is good.The other one, I don't know.
I'd love your thoughts at five sixsix, and I know, but the
first one is a federal judge andhe blocked the big Biden overstep on Title
nine. So Title nine protects girlsand also boys in sports. It was
an accident in nineteen seventy two.It's part of the Higher Ed Act,

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and if we were to go backin time, it would have been two
years old back then. But women'ssports they just you know, if a
school had women's sports, they gotthe equipment wasn't as nice, the space
to work out or do that particularsport wasn't as nice as what the boys
had. It just there there wasno parody between boys and girls' sports.

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And in response to that, theydid this title nine of the Higher Ed
Act. Later on, another billtook it not just from high school but
all the way down to K twelvethat you've got to be more equitable when
it comes to boys and girls' sports. And since then there have been a
lot more opportunities for girls to bein sports. The equipment has been better,
there have been championships. Used tobe back in seventy two, there

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were no championships with the National CollegiateAthletic Association. At best, you were
very much second tier. So thishas been a great it's been great for
women. Has it been one hundredpercent great for guys? I do think
it's unfortunate that a lot of malesports were cut. We don't need to

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be competing between men and women.What is good for one shouldn't be a
hit for the other. I thinkwe can support both. But very often
if you're looking at just numerical equivalency, particularly if you have a big football
team, and some bureaucrat shows upand says, I don't see parody between

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this giant thing you've got going onhere and your women's sports. If you
can't prove that you are meeting thedemand because of you know, are you
meeting the demand for women's sports.You may be meeting that demand. There
may be all kinds of opportunities forwomen, good opportunities for women, good

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equipment, good workout space, goodchampionships, good coaches, but maybe the
desire or the interest among women forwomen's sports it's been met, and yet
the money you're spending is not theequivalent given that the money, given the
money that you're spending on the bigfootball team. When that has happened,

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what they have done to show equityon paper is they've gone in and cut
the wrestling programs, some of theother boys programs so that they could achieve
that numerical equivalency. And I thinkthat's been unfortunate because I don't think that
men and women should have to competeover these things. I think you can

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meet interest without having to remove sportsteams for boys. I think that's unfortunate.
There shouldn't there shouldn't actually be anydownside. There shouldn't actually be any
downside, but sometimes there is.The Biden administration said, you know,
this doesn't go far enough. We'reactually going to say that you cannot quote

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unquote discriminate against girls or I shouldsay boys that are competing as girls,
or girls that are competing as boysin the K through twelve or collegiate sports.
And that's a problem for this reason. If you've got a young man

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who is competing as a woman,whether it's in high school or in college,
in the vast, vast, vastmajority of sports, I don't know,
probably all sports. I guess itdepends on how you define sports.
If you're doing dressage with a horse, I don't know that it matters if
your male or female dressage is thatfancy footwork with horses. So there's probably

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a handful of exceptions. I competedin high school on speech and debate and
in chess that in those two beingnon physical sports. There's total parody between
male and female. But when we'retalking other kinds of sports, boys are
in generally faster than girls, allthings being equal, and stronger than girls.

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So if you let a young manwho is living as a young woman,
he's you know, dressing the part, letting his hair grow long,
wearing makeup, if you let thatyoung man compete with girls, he will
beat those girls most of the time. Whether we're talking field and track,
whether we're talking swimming, whether we'retalking any kind of sport, even something

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like golf where your short game theremight be some it might be comparable between
men and women. Once you takein driving, it's not men can drive
further, just stronger. It iswhat it is. Every now and again
you will meet a woman who isstrong enough to compete with men on driving.
It doesn't happen very often. It'san exception, and so that's why

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we have male and female sports.I want to direct you guys to a
really good resource on this before Icontinue, and that is protect Kids Colorado
dot org. And it'll I'm goingto go to this protect Kids Colorado dot
org because there is a great petitioncoming out this fall that will protect girls'

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sports it'll make it so that girlscan compete with other biological girls. It
does not tell kids young men thatwant to compete, they don't want to
compete with boys because they you know, it does open up. It still
allows them to compete. They cancompete on an open an open category that

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can include male and female. Itdoesn't it doesn't foreclose their opportunity to still
do the sport. What it doestell these young men, though, is
that they cannot compete with girls.For it not only that they can't take
titles and trophies from girls by outcompeting them, it's also a safety issue.
You really don't want somebody who's biggerand stronger competing with girls and then

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you end up with injuries. Soit's good for boys, it's good for
girls. It's even good for theseindividuals who experience gender confusion, who are
struggling with this mental issue. Theycan still compete, they just can't compete
alongside girls in girls' sports. Soif you if you're interested, check out

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Protect Kids Colorado dot org. Iwill be signing that pit tition. It's
very very important. It will notbe on the ballot unless there are enough
signatures, so you know, I'vedone signature petitions in the past. It's
not like you have to go standon the street corner. I mean you
can if you want to. I'vedone that before for things I've cared about.

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But you can also just get apetition and get your friends and family
members on it and then turn itin. And that's helpful too. You
don't have to go to you know, stand outside of target. You don't
have to do that. You canjust get your friends and family to sign
and just really be a part ofthat solution. I will say this that

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at least in those four states La, Mississippi, La, Louisiana, Mississippi,
Montana, and Idaho, thanks tothis judge, girls will be protected
and girls' sports will be protected.They did call out the Biden administration for
taking this way too far. Ithink it will make it to the Supreme
Court, and I think that ourside will win six' three. And

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here's why there are people on thatcourt. Whether they're always consistent with it,
it's probably a different thing, butthey really do want to look at
what things meant when they were firstpenned into existence, whether it's the Constitution,
whether it's other laws, and clearlyback in nineteen seventy two when Congress

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enacted Title nine, they meant theywere talking about biological girls and biological boys.
And ever since then, you know, there be people. There are
people who believe that gender is separatefrom sex and that you can become the
gender you want to be. It'sokay if you want to believe that,
that's fine. No one's telling youotherwise. But in even if you believe

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that, we still need to protectgirls' sports, and we can still give
these boys and it's usually boys,sometimes it's girls that want to live as
the opposite sex. We can stillgive the opportunity to play. They just
can't play in a way that woulddiscriminate against biological girls or biological boys.

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Another decision that I think is interesting, love to have your thoughts at five
six six nine zero, and thatis the Supreme Court ruled that Instans sixty
three decision that bump stocks do nottransform a firearm a semi auto automatic into
an automatic. And I'm gonna justbriefly describe the difference, just because if

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you're if you're not a if you'renot into firearms, and I frankly am
not really into firearms they're fun tofire au occasion. It's good to have
one for self defense, but Ialso think it's a very serious thing.
I don't if you're going to bea firearms owner, make sure that you
you know what you're doing. Youknow, get that training, be a

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responsible gun owner. Lock that gunup when you're not using it. I
know I didn't need to do thepublic service announcement, but I felt the
need to. So there's basically threedifferent kinds of firearms simplify things. There's
sort of the traditional, which isyou got to you have to cock the
weapon before you pull the trigger.So I have a one hundred year old

(01:28:16):
Winchester rifle and every time I wantto fire it, I have to pull
the pump on it. It's apump action. Then I pull the trigger,
and then I got to do itagain. I guess, sort of
a traditional design. Revolvers have thisdesign. If we're talking about handguns,
right, I once had a boltaction rifle and you had to pull the

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bolt back every time you wanted tothen pull the trigger. It didn't load
itself. The next kind of weapon, whether we're talking handguns or long guns,
is the semi automatic, and inthis case, there's something automatic in
the machine of the gun that willload that for you. You don't have
to cock or any of that ordo the bullet lock. All you do

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is you pull the trigger and themechanism within the firearm is going to reload
the next bullet. Pull the trigger. But you have to pull the trigger
every time. That's what makes asemi automatic not an automatic. You have
to pull that trigger every time nomatter what. Then there is the automatic.

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Now automatic. There's kind of twoways you can set it. You
can do it burst, which islike three rounds at a time, or
you pull the trigger. So inthat case is you pull the trigger three
rounds or you pull the trigger downand bullets just pop out. When you
see people doing firearms doing you know, firing Oozzi's in nineteen eighties action movies
Miami Vice, those are automatic.A lot of military weapons are automatic.

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You're pulling the trigger, the bulletsare coming out, there's no need to
pull the trigger. Again. They'renot as easy to work with as you
would think, and that is becauseas you pull the trigger, as the
bullets come out, the muzzle ofthe firearm has a tendency to want to
lift, so there is an accuracythat is lost in that if you can't

(01:30:14):
get control of that kind of naturallifting. It's important to make these distinctions.
And I know for those of youout there who are gun owners,
you're like, why is she givingus a mini lesson. It's because there
are a lot of folks out therewho've never handled guns who don't know the
distinction. They think everything's an automaticweapon. They think everything's Miami Vice.

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It's not. There is the traditionalmechanisms. There's the semi automatic and the
automatic. So there's and I thoughtamong many that the bump stock transforms a
semi automatic into an automatic. Andhow that happens is you put the bump

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stock on and the energy so youpull the the trigger. The bullet comes
out of out of the gun orout of the long arm with the long
gun, and there's a recoil,which hurts like a bear if you don't
hold that stock close to your shoulder. But it absorbs that energy the bump

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stock and it makes it so thatit's sort of easier to pull the trigger.
It speeds up the amount of timebetween the bullets. It doesn't transform
it into an automatic, but itspeeds things up and the concern and the
very understandable concern, and I completelyunderstand people. I would push back obviously,

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because I think the first I thinkthe Second Amendment is very important.
But I understand the concerns of thosewho are concerned about bump stocks. I
get their concerns because it makes asemi automatic a much faster gun, more
bullets come out, And I understandwhy they wanted to make bump stocks illegal.

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I get it. After there wasa horrible massacre by a very evil
man killed sixty people in Las Vegasback in twenty seventeen, and the AFT
issued a rule saying that bumpstocks arethe equivalent of machine guns. Machine guns
can be owned by ordinary people,but you have to get a special permit

(01:32:26):
for that. You're going to geta background check and that sort of thing.
If you're a person who has thingson your record, you're probably not
going to get it. I haveknown people who were able to My dad
is no longer alive, but atone point he had that special I don't
know if it was a permit orwhat you would call it, and was
able to actually own one of these. They went and fired and enjoyed.

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I think it was like a newsyfired at some and then sold it to
somebody else. It just wasn't thisthing again because you lose accuracy. So
if you enjoy shooting targets, it'snot as much fun. So anyway,
the AFT makes this rule, thereis a gun store owner had to submit
his is he had to get ridof the ones that he had for sale.

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He sued, and meanwhile about fivehundred thousand bump stocks were destroyed.
Now there's been a ruling by theSupreme Court sixty three saying that no bump
stocks do not automatically transfer transform semiautomatics into automatic weapons. Does that mean
that a law cannot be passed toto to make it more difficult to get

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a bump stock. No. Ibelieve that that lawmakers can can do that.
They simply cannot do it the waythe AFT did it. They're going
to have to do it differently.So I get their concerns. I think
what what it comes down for me, and I say, this is somebody
who's not a gun enthusiast. Iam a Second Amendment enthusiast. I'm a

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gun owner. Is that I dothink that we need to be very careful
when we're talking about Second Amendment andthe right to own and beare arms.
And also we need to acknowledge thatkilling people is already illegal. In fact,
brandishing a weapon in a hostile manneris illegal. So these things are

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The doing of bad things with firearmsis already illegal. You can't threaten somebody
with a firearm. You can't hurtsomebody with a firearm. And I understand
the reasoning behind the anti gun advocates. They figure if we reduce access to
high powered guns or accessories, wemight be able to reduce Oh sorry,

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what did I did? I?Oh? Did I not? Somebody's saying
that I mispronounced aft, alcohol,firearms, and tobacco. I think I
got it right. Whatever. Thisperson is obviously a little on the angry
side. I'm not saying that thesebump stocks should be illegal. I'm saying
that they could, you know,I'm I'm not I'm saying. I'm just

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simply describing the Supreme Court decision andsaying that I understand the reasoning behind the
people who pursued it. I don'tthink they're bad people. I think they
genuinely want to prevent another massacre.That said, as I said, the
doing of evil things with firearms isalready illegal. It's already illegal, and

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that a bump stock in the handsof an ordinary human being an ordinary Oh,
I see what this guy is saying. I got I got the acronym
wrong. I said it was AFT, alcohol, firearms and tobacco. Or
is the tobacco before alcohol, tobaccoand firearms? Oh? Well, as

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a person's very upset about it,I think, dude, I think I
think you're going to be Okay,take a valume the alcohol, fire arms
and tobacco. Whether I'm getting theorder right of the agency. I don't
think they can go through. Idon't think you can simply put a regulation
out there. You're gonna have topursue it in the law. Ah ATF,

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Sorry, it's ATF alcohol, tobacco, firearms. I got the acronym
wrong. You're gonna be fine.I never let an angry never let an
angry text or derail your thought.Okay. I understand where they're coming from.
I understand why they're doing what they'redoing. Where I would give them

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pause is this if if you givea if you give a non if you
give a moral human being, aperson who respects the sanctity of human life.
If you give me five hundred bumpstocks and you just put them in

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my living room, nothing will happen. Nothing bad will happen. They're just
inanimate objects. What matters is intent, And already we know that the planning
threatening an execution of illegal firearm activity, the hurting of people, we already

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know that's illegal. You can't makeit more illegal any more than we can
constrain rightful, law abiding, decentpeople access to firearms and accessories. All
right, there you go. Sorry, I messed up the acronym anyway,
Thanks for thanks for listening to metoday. I've only got like thirty more

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seconds. Have had a great timesubbing here with a Rod who couldn't have
done it without him, And Icouldn't have done it without you having folks,
I got to have a listener.You can't just be can't just have
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Rod, and I hope everyone hasa spectacular day and a spectacular weekend.
Stay awesome. It's spend Christa kfor sitting in for Mandy Connell on eight fifty koa