06-24-24 FULL SHOW - It's Time To Vote, and a Film About Sasquatch

Episode Transcript

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Welcome, Welcome, welcome. Wehave a film producer who's done a new
movie about Sasquatch that you're definitely gonnawant to hear. It's time to get
your ballots back in. And whyare pro Hamas protesters interrupting a Pride parade?
I don't get it, I trulydon't. We're going to talk about
that more so. Stick around,Mandy Connell, joined of course by my

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right hand man, Anthony Rodriguez.We call him a Rod. We've got
a uh, we got a Mondayshow today. It's a Monday, feels
like a Monday, and it's hot. I have to say, if you
weren't listening to the Roth Kamenski Showand in hearing Rob Dawson talk about getting

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a drone delivery from subway, allI could think of was, did you
ever see like old home movies wheresomebody's got their little, you know,
eight millimeter camera and it goes likethis a rod Because you probably haven't seen
any of this old but it waslike, as somebody would go, it'd
be a bunch of people talking,They're standing around talking and somebody would notice
the camera and they and everybody wouldstop and stand still. Like they were

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posing for a photograph. So yourhome movie would be a bunch of people
standing completely still. And I alwaysthought to myself that must have been what
it was like when that new technologycame about, Like all of these people
standing around with their mouth open,looking up for the sky, watching a
subway sandwich getting delivered by a dronefor a good reason. Did you see
it? No, this area wasnot what I was expecting. I was

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expecting like a typical maybe like theDJI, a typical little drone with like
maybe one sandwich a little right.No, No, this thing was a
unit wingspan, like I mean atleast from arm to arm. This thing
is must real drone. Yeah,so six ft wings like a full on
bag like it looks like a fullon like box. Like it's massive.

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It was incredible, Like we lookedat were like, oh there it is.
Wow. How long before that becomesabsolutely commonplace and we don't even notice
it anyone? The sun of aformer now retire air traffic controller me says,
probably a while with all the regulationsthat would entail, especially like here
in Denver in the bigger cities.So I think we're still little ways away

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before they figure all the details out. I don't know, because airspace is
is restricted. But at a certainceiling, how high do the drones fly?
These industrial Well, the normal onescan go really really high. They
industrial I'm talking about like if subwayis going to start delivering sandwiches with a
drone, they have to be awareof what the ceiling is. Correct,

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So I'm guessing it's going to bea lot of low level drone flying that
keeps it out of the you know, the way of any sort of air
traffic control issues. And then ifwe're going to get this with regular occurrence
with a lot of different businesses,how long until we have air traffic controllers
for drones? Probably a whole differentdivision a night. That's totally serious.
You have to if you have thatmany businesses doing stuff like that at otherwise

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we're talking collisions, crashing and hittingpeople in buildings and animals and all kinds
of stuff. You have them,assuming they have to have some kind of
rad lergy. It is like likeyou have on your car, a modern
car now has I mean, ifI get close to anybody on the road,
my car is like, hey,what are you doing? I mean,
And typically drones even have that nowthat all those sensors, so you
would think that that would be ableto be a part of it, but

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all of it to be perfectly inunison. Like what companies get first crack
at having the rights to that airspace? Are they all fighting for it now
to be the first you know,I mean, Subway clearly looks like they
are at the forefront of it havingdoing this now or doing these test runs.
Well, Amazon in some markets isdelivering via drone as well, so
is a big I mean that wasa big drunk. Yeah, I wonder

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what, like what what do theyrun on? Is it a gas power
drone? Is it a battery powerdrone? What does that even look like
because batteries are heavy as hell,so I'm guessing it some kind of gas
powered. By the way, whathappened what we're talking about? Right now,
you'll be able to see Rob Dawson'sat a live play by video for
me. I'm spicing them now.I'll put on our socials here in the
next half hour. You gotta seethis thing. It's crazy, but it
made me think about other things,like the first time you see something,

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The first time I saw a cybertruck on the road, the Tesla cybertruck.
I was like, wow, lookat that. Now I see them
with some regularity, and I'm like, look, it's an e Camino.
That's what Chuck and I refer tothem as. I don't understand the styling
on those trucks. Don't get it. Do not get it. Let me
go to the blog because we havea bunch of stuff on the blog today

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that we're going to talk about.It's one of those Mondays where there's no
giant overarching story. There are somebig stories, of course, the big
story being if you have not returnedyour ballot yet, you need to do
that because right now, returns arevery low. And if you're an educated
voter, I would love for youto educate yourself and vote now. If

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you are not super now, seehere's the thing. I'm talking to a
highly educated audience. People been provenby studies that people who listen to talk
radio are highly educated about the issuesthe candidates. We are the most educated
group of media consumers in talk radio. And I'm not just making that up.
Studies have shown it. It's fatso. But if you're confused about

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who to vote for, I wantto give you a few simple tips First
of all, I started doing Ross's. I started doing a voter guide this
weekend, and everything is exactly thesame as Ross's, and my kids were
in town, so I just said, no, I'm just look at Ross's.
The only thing I added was onecontested race in Douglas County, and
that is a race that has PriscillaRon, John Carson, and another dude

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in it. And though I likePriscilla a lot, I think she is
a very sharp woman. She's beenendorsed by A Blayden and I think George
til as well the other two membersof the County Commission, and I don't
find them to be particularly trustworthy.And I'm afraid they think that she is
going to just roll up over anddo whatever they want her to do on

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the Commission, and I'm not That'snot what I want, because they're trying
to bring in this stupid, expensive, unfeasible, ridiculous pie in the sky,
you know, buy and dry waterplan that is never going to happen,
and it's going to make a fewpeople very very rich at the expensive
taxpayers. And I'm against that,and I need a third county commissioner on

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the County Commission to stop specifically thatprocess. So I am voting for John
Carson in that election, and that'sthe only one that's different than Ross just
didn't cover that. So you haveto understand. If you live in a
Democratic stronghold and you are thinking toyourself, you know, I've got two
Democrats to choose from if you getto choose at all, if you're an

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independent, you get to choose,But try and find the least crazy Democrat
in those districts, because they're goingto end up winning pretty much almost all
the time. There's a lot ofsafe districts one way or the other,
and we want to get a lesscrazy person. And if you are a
Republican and you don't know who tovote for, go find out who the
Colorado GOP endorsed and vote for theiropponent. Okay, just vote for whoever

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is running against them. That isthe backstop. Because the Colorado Republican Party
broke I don't even know if thistradition has ever been broken, and they
decided they were going to endorse inthe primaries. This was another move to
enrich Dave Williams in his race forthe fifth congressional district, which I please
beg of you. Please, pleaseplease vote for Jeff Crank because I don't

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want anybody to win the way thatDave Williams is trying to win. I
don't like it. It's dirty,it's unethical, and he deserves to get
his butt kicked hard. So itleaves a mark like a shoe print right
in the buttock. You know whatI'm saying, Like, oh, were
they wearing Nikes? Yes, youcan see that clearly right in the buttock.

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Not literally, I mean just youknow, figuratively, So that is
I linked to Ross's voter guide onthe blog. Let me tell you about
the blog and where to find it. Go to mandy'sblog dot com. That's
mandy'sblog dot com. Look for theheadline This says six twenty four to twenty
four blog It's time to vote andto film about Sasquatch. Click on that

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and here are the headlines you willfind within any Listen in office half of
American, all with ships and clipmentsof say that's going to press plat today
On the blog could Sasquatch be real? It's time to get your ballots in.
Don't vote for Ron Hanks. Pleasesend John Caldera prayers of healing please
Proamas. Protesters stop the Pride parade. Colorado makes social media and nag kids.

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Russia says we are at war withthem. Gen Z is blowing up
the gender divide. Criminal kids aregiven priority. Snope quietly changes the narrative
on very fine people. Here comesthe we're so broke, we need to
raise taxes nonsense. Nazis come toLa. I never thought i'd miss headphone.
Nearly half of EV owners regret theirchoice. Dems want to raise taxes.

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Intermitt it fasting can help type twodiabetes. We still haven't recovered since
COVID. Take your vacations, people, the planned obs the lescence of your
phone. TikTok says a ban ispossible, the sweetest wedding toast Your dog
is sneezing out his frustrations. Trumpsays college graduates should get a green card.

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This is car voodoo, the realityof being thirty and going out.
Those are the headlines on the blogat mandy'sblog dot com. And there are
a few things on the blog thatI find super interesting, none more than
this conversation that I want to sharewith you. Go ahead and give you
my audio. Here a rod forjust a second. There's a couple of
minutes long, but I want youto listen to it. It's he's I

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don't even know who this person is, the all in pod, some podcast,
and they're talking about the earlier partof the conversation was about how we
we have so many foreign students tocome to the United States of America to
go to college. They go toMIT, they go to Ivy League schools,
they go to great schools, theyget a great education, and then
they leave. And that was thepremise of the following comments. Teach to

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recruit the best and brightest from theworld. Every time we get somebody super
intelligent from India or Europe, anycountry, the one immigrants, sir,
Yeah, and three or the fourhere are immigrants, the ones without the
tizer. And we could get thesegreat people into our country. And that's
a loss for our adversaries and ourcompetitors, and it's a game for us.

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But I've never heard you talk aboutthis. And you please promise us
you will give us more ability toimport the best and brightest around the world
to an earth. I do promise, but I happen to agree. That's
why I promise, Otherwise I wouldn'tpromise. Let me just tell you that
it's so said when we lose peoplefrom Harvard, mit from the greatest schools

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and lesser schools that are phenomenal schoolsalso, And what I wanted to and
I would have done this, butthen we had to solve the COVID problem
because that came in and you know, sort of dominated for a little while,
as you perhaps know. But whatI want to do and what I
will do is you graduate from acollege, I think you should get automatically
as part of your diploma, agreen card to be able to stay in

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this country. And that includes juniorcolleges too. Anybody graduates from a college,
you go in there for two yearsor four years. If you graduate
or you get a doctorate degree froma college, you should be able to
stay in this country. And youknow more stories than I do, but
I know of stories where people graduatedfrom a top college or from a college
and they desperately wanted to stay here. They had a plan for a company,

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a concept, and they can't.They go back to India, they
go back to China. They dothe same basic company in those places and
they become multi billionaires employing thousands andthousands of people, and it could have
been done here. And a biggerexample is you need a pull of people
to work for your companies. Youhave great companies, and they have to

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be smart people. Not everybody canbe less than smart. You need brilliant
people. And we force the brillianpeople, the people that graduate from college,
the people that are number one oftheir lasts or the best colleges.
You have to be able to recruitthese people and keep the people. It
was such a big deal. Somebodygraduates at the top of the last they

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can't even make a deal with acompany because they don't think they're going to
be able to stay in the country. That is going to end on day
one. That's fantastic. Yeah,that's fair. Well, I think we
all will hardly agree with that.Now, that, of course, would
be an interesting departure. And thisis what I don't like about this conversation.
Not that I don't like the idea, because I do think that preventing

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a brain drain, preventing people fromcoming here getting the education, maybe they
want to stay here and then notbeing able to because of their status,
that's a great idea. But whenDonald Trump says day one, I'm going
to do this. We now havepresidents who are legislating immigration policy from the
White House, and it has goneon for I don't even know how many

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years now. Obama did it,Trump did it, Biden did it,
and now Trump's going to do itagain. We have to get serious about
real immigration reform that comes through Congress, because whatever Trump does, right,
let's just say Trump does this dayone. He says, you know what,
if you graduate from a university inthe United States, We're going to

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give you a green card. Great. Perfect. When the next president comes
along, there's a really good chancethat they will just undo what Trump did.
We saw it happen with Biden.We saw Biden stupidly and idiotically reverse
executive orders that were very effective atslowing down immigration and things of that nature.
But that's not what should be happeningnow. If you want to use

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an executive order in an emergency situationwith a timeline that says, look,
we're going to do this this wayvia executive order, but this executive order
is going to expire on this datebecause Congress needs to act on this legislatively.
We have way too much power atthe presidential level, and I don't
care who's president. I hate itwhen Joe Biden does it. I hate

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it when I feel like a Republicanusurps the authority of Congress. And the
reality is that I would I wouldprefer to see the president lead on these
issues instead of standing and making asnarky comment about how the other team got
in the way of getting anything done. You know, lead on the issues.

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Call members of both parties to youroffice and sit there and hash it
out until you can get something thatworks. You know. The notion that
somehow these issues are so complicated andso complex and so incredibly difficult to understand
is the is the reason they giveus for not doing anything? And how

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in the world, How in theworld is what just that little conversation right
there? Why is that a badidea? Right? Why is that not
a smart move to take the bestin the brightest and invite them to stay
in the United States to share theirknowledge, their their ingenuity, their inventiveness
here in the US. I thinkit's a great idea. So why can't

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you go to Congress and say,Okay, to Congress, here's what we're
gonna do. We're gonna pass alaw that says, if you graduate from
we're just gonna do this, notan omnibus immigration bill, just a small
immigration bill. Just take the winright, just like, get this done,
sign it into law with members ofboth parties standing behind you, and
then at that signing say and next, we're gonna do DHAKA. Next we're

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gonna do the dreamers. We're gonnagive them status and we're not gonna attach
it to anything else. We aregoing to solve that problem and take away
that political football. This is whythe intractability of Congress is infuriating, because
they're not doing what's best for thecountry. What's best for the country is

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to give the people that have hadsome kind of status under the DOCA program.
Just sign the bill, get itdone, take care of them,
and move on, because it's notright to just toy with their emotions the
way that they do, and theydo they use them as a political football.
And then after they get DOKA done, then guess what, Hey,
let's reform the H one visa program. Start start creating legal pathways that work.

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And as you're doing that, yousay, okay, now we're doing
all this great stuff. We're creatinglegal path we're going to shut down the
border because we're making it easier,better, more efficient, more effective for
people to come to the United Statesto work and take advantage of economic opportunities,
which I mean, nobody really believesthat the people flowing across the southern

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border, for the most part,are being victimized and are potentially going to
be killed if they leave their country, which is what the asylum process is
used for. They're here to tapinto economic rtunity. And frankly, there's
a ton of jobs that Americans won'tdo. Tons we don't want. I
don't want to pick tomatoes. Idon't want to do that. I don't

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want to build houses. I don'twant to do long care. I don't
want to do these things. Neitherdo you. So let's make it so
people are gonna come in and tapinto the economic opportunity because all of that
legal people participating in a legal systemjust grows our economy, just makes the
nation stronger. And it's time tojust enough with the whole week had.

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It's too complicated, it's too complex, there's too many movement. Get it
done or get bounced out of office. This is where I wish we were,
but were not because everybody thinks everybodyelse's representatives are the problem, and
uh yeah, and so they're they'reperson's perfect, but they're they're gonna wish
that you voted yours out. It'sjust kind of sad and pathetic. But

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I thought that was super interesting thatTrump Trump just jumped in and said,
I love this, absolutely love it. Mandy, Kevin Van Winkler, John
Carson. I am voting for JohnCarson, So you can do whatever you
want, but I am voting forJohn Carson. Mandy. There's nothing wrong
with an executive order as long asit's rooted in an existing legislation or clarifies

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an existing law. Except that's notwhat we're doing. What we're doing is
we are creating new legislation out ofhole cloth that is then undone by the
next president of the other parties.So it sucks. We need real legislation
put through in a measured manner bya Congress who gives a crap about the
country. And I just don't feelthat this Congress does, or any Congress

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over the last fifteen to twenty years, truly don't. It's just it's the
stuff that we have put up withand the things that they have allowed to
happen. You know, Congress couldhave acted on the border, and don't
give me. There is a billpath, the bipartisan bill path out of
the It was created with the helpof Republicans. They and then they shot

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it down because chrout White did have. That bill was so garbage. It
was so weak and pathetic and didn'tdo anything that they're telling you it did,
and they knew it didn't do that, So they were just waiting for
Republicans to kill it so they coulddemagogue off it. They weren't trying to
solve the problem. They were tryingto score cheap political points, which is

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where we are now. When weget back, we got a lot of
stuff on the blog. Oh you'lljust have to wait to see what comes
up next. A Texter said Mandyrandom subject, and I love a random
subject, just in case you werewondering, Mandy random subject. But loved
how they handled the protesters at thePGA tournament yesterday and how fans reacted.

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I want to say that I can'tbelieve they even wormed their way into that
one, and they did the lastshot of the tournament, eighteenth hole.
But how they were treated and howthe fans reacted were exactly how all of
them should be treated and how theyshould be reacted to PGA tour protesters.

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Let me see if I can geta video up here where Oh oh,
I just pulled up a thing hereand it was all the people are laying
on the ground. So that's that'sthat's that's good. Okay, U turn
my computer off because I'm gonna playsomething here. Climate activists delay the PGA
Travelers Championship. Oh yeah, theycame and uh and they were boy,

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apparently every cop in that area isat the PGA because they took these clowns
down right, I mean instantly,instantly. I don't you know, I
don't understand these climate protesters. Idon't get it. How exactly is throwing
orange paint onto Stonehenge going to makesomeone go? You know, I don't

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really want to drive an suv anymore. What is the connection on that?
What do what do you think thethought process? Hey, Ron, I
think it goes something like this.I think it's like this. Okay,
They're sitting around and they're all they'reall eating like some kind of granola and
drinking sparkling water with varying flavors.And then one of them is like,

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you know what we should do,we should we should go through pain on
Stonehenge and then that and then peoplewill want to save the climate. Oh
that's a good idea that would getchanged. Yes, so I like that,
do it. Let's do it,Let's do it. And all of
these people look exactly like what youwould think these people would look like.

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And they all and they all looklike the kind of people who would join
a cult, right like, youknow, you see these pasty people with
their granola eaters. And I don'thave anything against granola. I just I'm
just gonna say this, And ifyou're a granola eater, please don't be
mad at me. But some ofthe most irritating people that I have ever
known in my entire life, peoplethat were at one point friends that are

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no longer friends of mine because theygot to be too irritating and I scraped
them off. They all ate granolaall the time. One of these ex
friends of mine would walk around andI'm not even exaggerating, it's like a
gallon sized bag ziploc bag full ofhomemade granola. Because it store about granola.
It's just got so much crap init, So you make our own
granola. It just was, itwas, And you're like, why are

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we in line for a movie andyou have a gallon bag of granola with
you and you don't even have thedecency to hide it. Right, everybody
knows when you go to the movie, you hide your filthy, you know,
loot that you're bringing in to avoidpaying the ninety dollars for the candy
at the movie theater. You don'tjust blatantly walk up. And she walks

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up to the little ticket window.And this is when you had to buy
tickets out the window. There weren'tyou know, online ticketing, And and
the guy says you can't bring yourown food in hair and she looks him
dead in the eye and says,do you sell granola? And he was
like no. She's like, wellthat I'm not in competition with you my
dietary restrictions, but you don't sellgroup granola, so I'm not this isn't

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your I'm not competing with your snackbar. And I'm like no, because
I can't let you with your granola. So you know what we did.
We walked around the building and shehit the granola. And then we went
back and boyd a ticket like normalpeople. Good grief. Come on people,
I will buy the popcorn though Ialways buy their popcorn movie theater popcorn

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is delicious. It's just terrible foryou, just awful. So I don't
know what it is about granola eaters, But you people, some of you
people, not all of you peopleare not people I like to be around.
I want of Stonehenge and make itinto my granola. Oh that's a
good idea. That's a good Andthen you're literally eating Mother Earth. See

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what gets better than that? IfI I'll become mother and I'll keep your
regular you know, little fiber inyour diet, scraping off stone Edge orange
flavored. There you go, Mandy. Don't forget the elf idiots who thought
burning down a ski lodge at Veilwas a good idea to raise consciousness about
the environment. Yeah. Yeah,one must become one with the eternal flavor

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exactly. And this person said theyhave joined a cult. They most certainly
have. The cult of climate changeis one of the most dangerous because these
are people who are true believers.They think they're saving the world from itself.
My life might be over via arrestor no hiring of any job,
but I will do it for theworld. Yeah, Mandy, could big
oil be funding the climate crazy?So we hate them more. I'm not

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saying that's not a good idea becausewe have a story on the blog today
and you've heard the ads on thisstation, and trust me, you guys,
I hate some of the political adsrun on this station. But the
laws about us accepting political advertising arevery, very very clear. If we

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take advertising in any race, wehave to take advertising about that race from
any one a lesson. Oh thankyou, no plate play. Let's hear
it. Let's hear it. It'sa perfect example. He is the conservative
candidate for Congress of Colorado who's justendorsed by the Colorado Republican Oh yeahn Hanks
In his own words, I daresay I have how conservative is Ron Hanks?

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Ron Hanks has received multiple awards forhis ultra consumer, ultra conservative Colorado
State House years. Hanks again TrumpAmerica's Trump. Ron Hanks would be a
pro Trump warrior who would back Trump'sagenda and on immigration radom, Hanks says
immigrations what what is he saying?Immigration is? What? Number one issue.

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Hanks wants to close the southern borderand even supports building Trump's order one
we have to stop the immigration.Now what you're hearing here is the spot
that is designed to get very conservativeRepublicans to vote for Ron Hanks. Do
you know who paid for this spot? A super pack supporting it, Adam
Frish, who is the Democrat runningin this race. They are trying to

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get you to vote for Ron Hanksbecause they know they can beat him.
You know why, because he's crazy. Because he's crazy. And once they
go to the general election, allthese ads talking about how conservative he is,
they're going to be like, ohno, this dude's crazy. He's
totally crazy. So they want youto vote for Ron Hanks. Don't fall
for it. See this is theflip side of the oil companies funding these

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you know, wack a doodle climateprotesters to make us hate them more.
It would be a very effective strategy, and unfortunately ads like that one are
very effective, which is why theydo them. So again, just use
the strategy. If someone is endorsedby the Colorado Republican Party, vote for
whoever is running against them. Imean, if you have any questions,
just let me know, you cantext them at five six six nine.

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Oh, you can text them rightto me. This person said, why
is that a acting like closing theborder is a problem. That's how they
do it. That's what they're tryingto say. This guy is too conservative,
knowing that a vast majority of Republicansin this area, if not all,
want to see the southern border closed. So they're feeding you exactly what

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they want you to know. Ofcourse, of course this guy wants to
close the southern border in that shockedvoice, because they want Republicans to vote
for this clown. Do not allfor it. Do not be manipulated,
because that's exactly what this is.It is complete and total manipulation. And
it's been effective. They've done thisin other races and it worked, but

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I don't want it to work thistime. I think that in that race,
Jeff Hurd is a much better candidate. He is also a staunch conservative,
but you know what, he doesn'thave a crap ton of baggage from
being crazy like Ron Hayes. Imean, that's the reality. You are
talking about a district that Lauren Bobertalmost lost last time. This is not

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a right wings, you know,Rock, you know, Ring Rock,
right wing Republican district anymore, andyou're gonna say, oh, put the
most conservative guy up their wife sowe can lose to a guy who,
by the way, Adam Frish,is so well funded it's not even funny.
He has gotten in so much moneybecause he keeps fundraising off of beating
Lauren Bobert, even though she carpetbagged into a different congressional district months ago,

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months ago. It's just don't getfooled, man, don't get fooled.
Don't do it. Mandy, Thendon't take any political ads. You
know those ones that get texted toyou. I report all of them as
junk, even the people I support. I hate all ads, especially political
ads. The problem is is thatyou know what pays my salary advertising on

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this radio station. So yeah,that's not gonna happen. But I'm gonna
call out the ones that are stupid, like the one I just called out
when we get back. I dowant to talk about the text messages for
just a second, because I tweetedabout this yesterday and I want to see
if you guys are having the sameexperience I'm having. Well done proving once
again that if you look for away to be offended, there's gonna be

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one in my I just opened mytext messages on my phone. In my
text messages, I have a spamfolder in my text messages, as I
think everyone does. I just openthat up right now, and I want
to share with you what this is. And by the way, as I
read these off these are this isnot me slamming these politicians because some of
these people I voted for. Okay, this is just the whole concept.

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The first one is from Lisa Frazel, The second one is from Deborah Flora.
The third one is spam about bitcoin. The fourth one is about Max
Brooks the Republican primaries Tuesday, DougCo County Commissioner Bill Jah. I mean
it's literally one after the other afterthe other, after the other after the
other text messages about politics, andevery single one of them gets caught by

(30:07):
my spam folder and blocked. Andunless I go there and open it up,
I never see them. Now,AERROI do you get these same messages?
Are you registered to vote? You'reregistered to vote? Right, yes,
I get all the texts all viaDo they go to your spam and
block folder? Or do they cometo your main in text or email in
text? In text, they goto my main in box and I just
try to catch up by same reportto spam and then they slow down from

(30:29):
certain numbers, but then again fromother numbers later. But this is one
of those things that this is caughton in the last two election cycles.
And what a spectacular waste of money. I mean, what a true between
that and the four hundred and ninetyseven thousand mailers that come to my house
every day. And I want toask you guys this, what would you

(30:52):
like politicians to do to get theirmessage to you? You know, because
it's really hard, it's really reallyhard to get people to just listen and
engage. And I've been to severalevents and you go to an event where
all the candidates show up, sothey're taking time out of their day,
and there's like sixty people there.So how do they reach people on a
mass scale? This is like,this is the thing that we need to

(31:15):
know. How do they reach usin a way that isn't super innoying.
We all know that mailers work thathas been born out attack mailer's work.
All of these things work because toomany people don't even bother to do any
research. They just see an attackmailer go I don't want to vote for
that person, and they vote forthe person who's doing the attacking. So

(31:37):
it's one of those things where Imean, how do you figure this out?
I've now started doing the yard signpoll, my own personal yard sign
poll that I do, where Iyou know, I just kind of look
around to see who's according to theyard signs, my people are winning.
But we'll see if that actually pansout. This is my first unofficial yard
sign poll. But what do yousee in your neighborhoods? Are you seeing

(32:01):
now? And if you're in astaunchly democratic area, then you're going to
see staunchly democratic signs. As amatter of fact, we're going to have
the people on next week from UniteAmerica. They're the ones that are pushing
ranked choice voting because they're gathering thenumbers of exactly how few of us are
going to choose our next representative becausethere are so many districts that are either

(32:22):
safe Republican or safe Democrat that whoeverwins the primary is going to win the
general election. And you know,you see turnout in some areas of thirteen,
fourteen, fifteen percent, and that'ssort of all people, that's just
of registered voters. So I'm tryingto figure out a way to help candidates

(32:44):
not spend money like that. Ijust stop wasting money on that, because
I don't know anybody who has evergotten a texting on Oh okay, yeah
that's what I'm going to vote for. Yeah, that's it. You sent
me a text. I'm in.I'm great, Mandy. It's proven that
yard signs don't work, except nameID is the thing that matters more than

(33:07):
anything else, and yard sign repetitiongives you the name ID that you might
be lacking otherwise. I mean,that's just the way it is. It's
all about name id. And ifyou see the name Deborah Flora, Deborah
Flora, Deborah Flora, Deborahslora,over and over and over again, because
all of the people competing against LaurenBobert in the fourth Congressional District have way

(33:28):
less name recognition than she does.So even if people have a negative reaction
to her, they still know hername. So it's just about getting your
name out. Get your name out. They need to see your name over
and over and over again. Italso gives the impression, especially in your
neighborhood, that if your friends andneighbors are voting for this person, they
can't be all bad. So italmost has like a personal endorsement feel to

(33:52):
it. When you're in someone's neighborhoodand you see those yard signs, it's
fascinating, Mandy. I get spamtext from different phone number saying there are
different well known people daily. Well, then you should use my response.
And I've talked about this now.When I get a spam text, I
just respond with I can't talk now. The fat one won't fit in the
wood chipper. That's how I started. And then or I'll go with where

(34:16):
have you been? Biglu is superpissed and he wants his money. I
start with that, and then ifyou have time, I mean, you
can go for a couple hours,just you know, first you're talking to
bots, then you're talking to realpeople. It's fascinating, absolutely fascinating.
Everyone has been conditioned to not clicklinks, says this texter, So text
messages from politicians are useless. Iagree, Unfortunately, says this texter.

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The negative ads are effective. Don'tforget politicians who win are those who appeal
to the modern iq of the public. Low information voters or lack of interest
is the problem. And that,my friends, is one hundred percent correct.
We will be right back, andoh boy, are we switching gears.
You ever seen SaaS Watch Bigfoot?You ever seen him? We're going
to talk to a guy did awhole movie about people who have a man

(35:06):
who has dug deep into the legendthat has been around since the beginning of
legends, really, and that isthe legend of Sasquatch. And of course,
if you don't know what Sasquatch is, we're talking about Bigfoot. Oh
wait, I should ask, becauseI just made an assumption there something that
I always thought was the right way. Joseph Granda, the maker of the

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new movie Sasquatch and the Missing Man, our Sasquatch and Bigfoot the same.
They are the same thing. Thedifference is that the name Sasquatch comes from
a Native American of course tribe.And then Bigfoot was originally from a guy
who actually faked some footprints in nineteenfifty eight, right with the big concrete
feet. I remember seeing like Iwatched a special on the unmasking Bigfoot or

(35:52):
whatever, or whatever. It wasdisappointing, like most of things today can
go yeah either way. So firstof all, let's start with you.
You are a filmmaker. How longhave you been making films and doing that
kind of stuff. I've been inthe film business for thirty years. I
started as an actor on Broadway andTV movie through that out. I started
as an actor on Broadway, andthen I just went from there, Like,

(36:13):
what show were you in on Broadway? Let's see, I did a
couple original ones. One was calledClubhouse Madness, I did hair, I
did Wow. I didn't do thenude stuff. So I say, you
were Broadway? Yeah you were.And then I moved and I got a
break in film and started working inla and then, you know, it
just got to a point. Youknow, Hollywood is the only place where

(36:35):
somebody could break your heart and thenyou have to drive past the billboard with
their face on it for the nextthree months. Yeah. I moved out
here about eighteen twenty years ago witha reputation where I didn't have to live
there. Could I be making moremoney right right? Divorce three times to
rehab and still live in Hollywood?Yeah? Probably, But I have a
lovely wife and a family, andso decided to make a more family friendly

(36:57):
move there. Well, we're happyto have you exactly. So how did
you stumble upon this particular story?And I put the trailer to the movie
on the blog today so people cansee the trailer. But how did you
stumble on this story which I had? I didn't hear anything about this,
So tell a little bit at snailSketch where this came from. So I
came on board. Tony Merkle isa guy who is sort of the Joe

(37:19):
Rogan of paranormal podcasts, a podcastcalled The Confessionals, and we had a
meeting and we talked about turning oneor two of his best episodes into a
document into documentary films, and thiswas one of them because the main character
in Sasquatch and the Missing Man isa guy named Wes Germer. Wes Germer
has the largest sass watch podcast.It's called the Sasquatch Chronicles. That's all

(37:45):
they do is talk about Bigfoot.That's it, and he's been doing it
for twelve years. He has amassive following. I think he's got half
a million downloads a week. Andso we went out to retell his story,
the sort of genesis of the nightthat this thing happened to him.
He had an episode where he believeshe fully saw what he believes the Sasquatch,
even though it did not behave rightas a traditional Sasquatch you would think

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of right, which created all thiscontroversy into the Sasquatch bigfoot community, which
there is one, and you knowthey're very serious people, Listen. I
was brought on board it to producethis movie of Tony because I was kind
of a skeptic anostic. Yeah,I'm sort of yeah, like whatever,
you know, I my fee andwe'll make it work out. So yeah,

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So we went out to Washington fora little over a week and I'll
tell you what I met with peoplethat it was nothing. It was not
There was no positive for them tosay tell the outside, you know.
And then we visit a family calledthe Browns and their kids and and they
they have these things that have beenvisiting their property for ten years. She

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showed us if you watch the film, and I hope you do, you
can watch it at merclefilms dot com. She'll show you pictures and it's just
unders. They'll show you infra redand it's really really I mean, those
are very sane, salient people.And so you know, as I came
along, and then we went andwe we lived in this RV really up

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kind of out in the middle ofnowhere where the societies had taken And while
we were there, we found anunabandoned uh truck, like a little mini
van kind of thing. And well, first we found around this campsite there
was these huge bags of marijuana.And so I don't know, of course
Bigfoot smoke. I mean big Bigfootlikes to relax at the end of a
long day. It's not a bigdon't be judgmental, come on man,

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and so so you know, ithad for it had out of state plates,
and we didn't think anything of it. And it was April, so
it was still kind of snowy.But each time we came back to this
location, the people who have theseevents wouldn't come with us at night,
and we wanted to go and explorethis this area right at night. So
each time we came this van wasstill there. His his part past was

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expired. Ultimately we called the localsheriff and the ranger and and anyway,
they came out and lay look theyswept a five mile radius looking for this
guy. I don't want to giveaway the ending of the movie, but
we did discover what happened to him, and we talked about it and reveal
his name and his picture at theend of the film. So it was

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very It was very strange, butwe did. What happened was we were
out in the middle of nowhere,it's raining, it's two o'clock in the
morning, and all the crew thefilm, the sound guys, they're all
Midwest hunters or Texas. They're fromTexas, they're from Ohio, so they're
they're real hunters, and we recordedsounds that they're just like that is nothing

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I've ever heard. And the experiencethat I had you'll see because I end
up in the film because I say, you know, I think all of
this is nonsense, but that momentwas real. Something knocked and shook on
the RV in the middle of nowhere, and we went out to see what
was out there because we had infraredcamera sure stuff, and we had that
experience that all these bigfoot people talkabout, is this horrible smell come over

(41:06):
us, and we could tell somethingwas moving up in the It was very
it was very weird. And youknow, there's people who will tell you
that it's a woodland ape. Therewill people that it's part of the fay.
And here's the thing about this.And in Florida we have the skunk
ape, so we have a differentlike creature in Florida. But at some
point we would have discovered a woodlandape. I mean, unless you're talking

(41:30):
about an ape of an intelligence levelwell beyond of any any of the apes
that we are currently aware of inthe wild. The thought that a woodland
ape could exist in Washington State andnot have been identified, yeah, it
is almost ridiculous, you know whatI'm saying. It just seemed. But
why is this story? So?Why are so many people listening to a

(41:53):
podcast about Sasquatch? Why is therea Sasquatch community? Well, the irony
of that is that after I madethis film, I went on and I
wrote and directed and started in afilm that'll be out next year that answers
that question. Because I went outand I hung out with these grown men.
And let me clear, there areworse things that grown men can be
doing, sure than hiking around thewoods looking for for a wood the ape

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or something that comes from you,and so getting to know them and hearing
their stories. The question that Iultimately asked getting to know them and their
background their childhood is do you thinkthat maybe you're just really out here looking
for your old men. Yeah,and it really hit some of them really
hard because they come from broken homesand that's sort of the legend of the

(42:35):
wild man who will go through life. And so I took it from there.
But this story sas which The MichingMen is a documentary about that experience,
and and there's different people in itthat had the same experience as Wes
Germer in the in the original.So when you go to talk to people,
you said, none of these peoplethere was no upside for them telling
this story. There's it feels likethere's parallels to the people that have been

(42:59):
taught talking about alien abductions and seeingaliens and sealing alien aircraft for decades now.
And then you know, during COVID, the federal government's like, oh
yeah, that, yeah, wehad a lot of stuff we can't explain,
like they just kind of dropped itout there, like everyone's distracted by
COVID. Sure, we'll just admitthat UFOs are a thing. Do you
think part of it is that someof these people who have had a siding

(43:22):
or an experience just want to knowthat people believe them. Yeah, I
think that there's I think that sixtypercent of it is either people hoaxing.
I think another thirty percent is whatthey call paradoia, which is when you
see a shape and a shadow andyou see faces and images on that right.

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But I think genuinely ten percent ofit is really unexplainable. I'll give
you an example. I talked totwo guys who were I don't know what
the scientific name is, but theytest water in streams sure, and so
they were sent out in the PacificNorthwest, and they hiked about thirty miles
in and they were going to apoint where they were going to be picked
up by helicopter and they're testing eachstream and taking samples. But out there

(44:05):
thirty miles in, they found bigfootfootprints that like four of them, and
then they just ended. And sothat's the other theory is that it's this
sort of interdimensional thing that can comein and out of dimensions, and so
there was nothing in them to havetaken these pictures and said, we found
these thirty miles into the wilderness,and you know, why would they ruin

(44:27):
their reputation. So what I justheard from you, and you can correct
me if I'm wrong, is thatyou went into this a one hundred percent
skeptic and now you're willing to say, okay, ten percent is unexplainable,
and so we'll just leave that asthe unknown. Is that where you are
now? I am, and youknow myself I had I'm a Do you
feel crazy like that? A littlebit? I don't feel crazy, But

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here's why. Because I'm a Christian, so I have a Christian worldview.
So if there's angels, you know, in my belief structure, then there's
demons and why not mess with people. I think that it is some sort
of a spirit that is just messingwith people. I mean throughout history there's
been these, I mean ghosts andgoblins and whatnot. So I think there's

(45:10):
something very real to it. ButI don't think it's of this world,
because, like you said, ifthere was a Woodland ape, there would
be bodies and science this they havean explanation for, well, well they
bury their dad and this and that. But there is something going on out
there and it's not just all fakeAnd is it just in Washington State or

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did you talk to people blueodad sightingsand other places? I mean, are
we talking about Is this movie aboutone specific potential sasquatch in one area of
the country. No, this takesplace. It's three people up stories up
in Washington State and parts of Oregon. But you know, if you go
there's a place here in Bailey calledthe Saasquatch Outposts. Yeah, and Jim

(45:52):
Meyer who runs that. If yougo in there, you'll see the whole
chart of Colorado and all the sidingsthat people have had, So you know,
is it Is it the craziness ofmasses? I don't know, but
if you talk to Jim, he'lltell you he's stood there right in front
of the thing too. Are thereother parts of the country though, outside
of Colorado? Is it? Excuseme? Is it wherever there's woods we

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could have a Sasquatch? Or doesit seem to be relegated to the western
half of the United States. It'sif you when you watch the movie Sasquatch
and the Missing Man at Merkel Filmsdot Com, you'll see a woman there
and she she believes that the reasonthat they're seen in these different parts of
the country is that they're always neara water source, ah, which would

(46:37):
make sense, Yeah, unless they'recoming from UFOs. So you know,
is this your first time dipping yourtoe into sort of a supernatural story as
a documentary? No, this isthe This is the third film I've made
with Merle Merkel Films, and sowhat were the other two about? So
the first one was called The Shapeof Shadows. At Merkel Films dot com,
you can rent all these movies.The Shape of Shadows. So we

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went out to the Ute tribe inUtah at a place called Space Wolf Research
that overlooks Skinwalker Ranch. And Igot there early with the director and we
were trying to figure out what wasup on the in the bo vista on
the vista there, and so hetook out a big, long camera and

(47:22):
looked through it with a big lensand this thing comes out of the sky,
shoots across the lens and goes straightup. And I said, please
tell me that you were running thecamera, And to his credit, he
goes, why would I look througha camera if I didn't turn it on?
And so this thing and it's inthe movie too, the shape shadows.
And so later on that night,we're hanging out with the tribe and
the chief, he's hanging out andwe're by this the same ridge and we're

(47:45):
looking and this thing, at liketwo o'clock in the morning comes out of
the sky. It's lit up thistime, it's almost silent, and it
shoots straight across and straight back up, and the crew is and myself is
just freaking out. And I lookat the chief and he goes, huh,
those are the sky people. Theyknow you're here, that are performing
for you. And then we hadan archaeologist that took us to their petroglyphs,

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and as we're driving out there,he'd say, you would think that
people that were going to carve instone the history of their people, it
would be their festivals, their ways. And you go there and it's six
fingered giants with like crafts up inthe sky. So I don't know,
how does all this jibe with yourown Christian beliefs, because you mentioned that

(48:27):
already. Is this I think it'sinteresting that you were like, look,
you know what, if I believethey are angels, then maybe there could
be demons as well, And maybethis is just a bigfoot demon of some
sort, And that would explain thenartly smell if you're aware of the biblical
like the smell of the demons,a smell of death, and things of
that nature. So I know howthe whole crew are guys of faith,

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so we're all sort of like tryingone of the things to figure out what
is this? Is this without invokingsomething on ourselves, So that makes it
even more interesting. So everybody thatappeared in this movie, did anybody truly
say, aside from the people thatare in this movie, did you talk
to anybody who said, Look,I had this experience, but I am

(49:13):
not going to talk about it becauseeverybody thinks I'm crazy, so I'm not
going to do this. I intervieweda guy who had had He believed he
had been abducted when he was achild, and he didn't talk about it
for fifty years because every time heconfided with anyone, they all laughed at
him and thought he was crazy.But then when the internet became a thing,
he found all of these other peopleonline that had the exact same experience

(49:37):
he had. So do you havepeople that have these experiences that are like
Nope, not going to discuss itnot going to be a thing we talked
to. Yeah, there was aguy that we talked to who was a
neurosurgeon, and he's like, I'lltell you the story, but yeah,
I don't want to record it.I want my name. And it was
very convincing. He said, thisthing threw a rock at him, which
is one of the traits of Bigfoot. They likes to throw rock people.
They were rocks of people. ButI'll tell you this. So when you

(49:59):
watch the film, there's a momentwhere we all, it's near the end
of the film. We something isknocking on this RV and and making sounds
and whistles, and so we decidedto load up our cameras and go out
there. I don't know why,but I ended up stepping out first,
which is not what a producer shoulddo. You were the meat, when
you were like the bait. Theywere just like, hey, throph out

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there. And so we heard thesecalls, like there were two of them
calling at each other. And thenas I stepped out there, this horrible,
horrible smell hit me. And we'restanding in a circle with cameras and
it's the only time in my lifewhere I can honestly say that I felt
terror, like, yeah, Ilike he just struck you. At that

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There was some which is why Italk about maybe it was something evil.
There was some sort of presence there. I could feel it, and had
I not earlier relieved myself, Icertainly would have about that moment. I
mean, in all kidding that that'swhat I thought about, mate. That's
why that happens to people, becauseI felt like I had lost all sense
of like control of your body rollof like what something real is happening right

(51:05):
now. So I didn't see Bigfoot, but everything that I have read,
interviewed and talked to people like that'sthe very atypical experience of like this these
sounds and the smell and the presenceof something there. I have been in
the presence of what I considered tobe evil. And it was in a
courtroom actually a guy who but theguy that I was there to cover his

(51:27):
sentencing was a horrible person. Thiswas in Florida. He had murdered someone.
In his trial for the first degreemurder charge. He asked for the
death penalty and they didn't give itto him. They gave him life from
prison. So they took him tothe prison. He walked into his cell,
they slammed the door, and beforethe guard made it off the unit,
he murdered his cellmate, strangled himto death immediately as soon as he

(51:51):
walked in. And I had togo cover the sentencing of this guy.
And there's nobody in there's no family, he has no so it's just basically
me in this courtroom. And whenhe came in and saw me, he
started staring at me, and itwas it was kind of like what you're
talking about. So I believe thatsome there you can feel evil when you
are in the presence of evil,yes, And so for you to say

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that to be to feel terror,I wasn't terrified. Obviously, it was
a very controlled environment, but Iknow that man was the personification of evil.
Yeah, And so when you feelthat, it's very powerful. So
what are the weird stuff are yougoing to work on next? Now?
You got sild squatch. So afterwe finished that, we went to Kentucky
and Tennessee with this guy who hasbeen recording portals, interdimensional portals, so

(52:37):
much so that there's a very famousvideo that this guy took. He since
passed away from cancer. So wewent out with this son. This portal
video was so authentic that Netflix boughtit from him and they're doing a film
about this experience. So we wentdeep into this cave and we brought one
of the other producers with us,who's never really been out in the field,

(53:00):
and we brought this guy who whocreated these two sound devices that he
claimed, you know, like theBuddhists when he goes yeah, yeah,
So he created these devices that madethese sounds that he said could open up
portals to another world year exactly.That's exactly what it was. That's so

(53:20):
funny that you know that you're talkingabout that funny that you know. Yeah,
And so we went deep in thiscave with this guy who claims to
be able to conjure UFOs from thesky se five close or CE five Close
Encounters five. This guy he doesthese things, all of us. But
so we're running these things and hesaid make sure that you wear headphones so

(53:44):
that you don't get a headache orwhatever. And as we're running these things,
this one guy with us, JoelThomas, he's the go getter.
He's he's stood in the middle ofhim because he wanted the portal to take
Hi where it would go. He'shilarious, He's in the movie. And
so there were this moment where weall had like we looked at each other
while these things were running, andnobody wanted to say it first, and

(54:06):
so I actually went first, andI looked at the other producer who'd never
been in the field at my didyou did you hear that? He goes,
I heard little girl's voices? Andthen we went to the guy in
the back of the cave and hegoes, I go, did you hear
anything? It's like, I thinkI heard little kids? Oh my god.
It was real love stuff like that. It was really really freaky,
and it just so happened that wewere in that cave on Halloween night if

(54:27):
we didn't plan it right. Butit was very, very very strange.
So that's that's that'll come out sometimenext year. You feel like they kind
of like mess in with the youknow, the the like the whole five
hundred and eighty hurts. The tonethat you're talking about is also known as
the I don't want to call itthe God tone, because that's wrong.
That's what he calls it is theGod tone, But it actually can be

(54:50):
very therapeutic in certain situations. Itcan be a mood elevator. I mean
there's a lot of a lot goingon with that tone, and it sounds
crazy, but but obviously I knewit. You know, you're talking about
the same thing now, conjuring upufo. So there's just so much that
we don't understand. Yeah, right, And I think that's what you're kind
of doing, which is why Italk. I sort of talk it up
to a spiritual a common spirit,a spiritual realm. You know that I

(55:15):
will probably never know, but Ithink there is a bigger story to be
told about why people are enamored withBigfoot. Yeah. I have that myself
because my father left when I wasyoung and I sort of like had this
strange infactuation with I mean, he'severywhere, He's on yeah, T shirts
and cups, and so I thinksociety there is something about being free and

(55:38):
roaming around and never being seen butbeing recognized and being famous without having to
be famous, so no paparazzi.No. I mean there's some out there
that are very very convincing. Youknow the Patterson Gimwin film, you know
from nineteen sixty eight, where that'swhat it's. The famous one is walking
Across and they've yet been able todisprove that. Well. The movie is

(56:00):
called Sasquatch and the Missing Man.I put a link. I put the
trailer on the blog today. Ialso put a link to Merkel Films.
So we've referenced that over and overagain. So that is the first link
on the blog today if you wantto go watch any of these films.
Joseph, what a fascinating life youhave. That is the coolest thing ever.
So we'll have you back on totalk about the next thing as well.
Thank you appreciate. All right,we'll be right back. I have

(56:21):
a question for you guys. Iactually this morning was reading in the Denver
Gazette and I see a column frommy friend John Caldera titled My heart Attack.
And of course, knowing John,I assumed he was being hyperbolic and
was talking about some big outrage thatyou know, he was just amazing.
I get me a heart of No. No, John Caldera had a heart

(56:43):
attack. And I'm not giving upany news because he wrote a column about
it, right, I'm not breakinghis privacy, but he had a very
he had a potentially fatal situation thatwas avoided because he did not wait.
He had the classic symptoms of aheart attack, and he drove himself to

(57:05):
the emergency room and got the helpthat he needed and avoided what they call
a widow maker heart attack. Hehas had significant blockage in one of his
arteries and he and I chatted withhim this morning. I sent him a
text this morning asking if he neededNudy Mags in the hospital, and he
said he always needed Nudy Mags andI knew he was. Okay. That's

(57:25):
the relationship that John and I have. But the reason I bring this up,
I have a question for you guys. Have any of you ever done
the LifeScan thing where they scan yourarteries to make sure you don't have any
blockages. And I'm doing this.Chuck did it a few years ago and
was like, all, well,everything was good, but this is one
of those tests. You have topay for it out of pocket. Insurance

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doesn't cover it. But it's likeone hundred and fifty bucks. And I'm
thinking to myself, like, youhit a certain age, you have to
start worrying about stuff like this.You have to start worrying about what's going
on inside your body that you can'tsee. And to John's point, John
said, look, my cholesterol wasalways good. I haven't really had any

(58:07):
issues. He's in relatively decent health. He's a little pudgy, but other
than that he's good. Well.He says that in the arms, I
could lose a little weight. He'sa little pudgy, but he's certainly not
you know, a heifer. Oh, speaking of which, wait a minute,
I forgot. I can't believe Iforgot this story until today. So

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why are you driving through a mainroad like not in a farm area?
Okay, the main road going betweentwo neighborhoods in Parker, And I see
what I first as I'm driving towardsit. There are a lot of deer
in Parker, so you often seethat deer got hit by a car.
It's not an uncommon experience. Happensall the time. And I was like,

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Wow, that's a damn big deerthat got It was a cow.
It was a dead cow on theside of the road that somebody had hit.
And there was no place in theimmediate vicinity where this cow could have
come from. There was no farmsout there, there's no ranches out there
there's no fields and pastures where cowsare eating. It's someone dump it.

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I have no idea. That isthe second roadkill cow I've seen in my
life. I feel like firs.The first was in my hometown of northern
Florida. We were driving down afully country road where there was a field
on each side with cows in it, and then there was a cow that
had been hit by a car onthe side of the road, dead and

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my ex husband, bless him.He was a city kid. He didn't
understand, and he had been complainingabout something about where we were living,
of just how ridiculous and backwards itwas, and he was not wrong.
But as we're driving down, he'scomplaining and then we drive by the dead
cow and he goes, even theroad kill here sucks, And I was
like, I cannot, I cannot. Okay, so I can't argue,

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but has this one been evidently hitby a car? It was just dead
on the side the road. WellI could. I went by it so
fast, you know, I wasprobably going forty miles an hour when I
went by road. Yeah, therewas no blood on the road. You
know, when you see a deergets hit, you have the blood spin
and then the deer's off to theside. No, there was no there

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was no evidence of any kind ofcollision. And you know that if you
hit a cow, you're gonna jackup your car. That's not like something
you just hit and it's no bigdeal. That's like total of the car
kind of thing. So where whathappened to the car? The car's not
there. There's no evidence of likea car smashing into something big. It

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was crazy, just like this.I live in a city now and this
is happening. But then I thoughtto myself, I wonder how many people
have actually seen not one, buttwo cows on the side of the road
dead. Is a ticket now orwait for the third? I want to
ask. I want to ask myfarm people, all y'all out there and
tractors right now. Is this acommon occurrence? Do you often see a

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cow dead on the side of theroad. I mean, just the strangest
thing, with a full size cow, full size, not like a little
baby or every property in Parker isa farm. No, not in this
area, not in this area atall, not at all. Mandy,
it's not your cholesterol, it's yourLDLs. Here's the thing you guys.

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We just did this study and Italked about it on the air. They
did a study of centenarians, peoplewho lived to be one hundred, and
they had all this database of allthese medical records, and they studied over
thirty five years. They were like, Okay, what's your cholesterol, what's
this, what's this, what's this. It wasn't the people with low cholesterol
that actually made it to one hundred. It was people that were like right

(01:01:39):
there in the middle, and goodand bad cholesterol didn't matter. So I'm
not sure that we really understand therole that cholesterol plays. I mean,
I know that cholesterol gathers in ourarteries and hardens and that causes arterio sclerosis.
I mean, I understand that partof it, But what are the

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signals that our body is sending tomake that happen. Now more and more
often they think it has to dowith inflammation in your body, and we
live. If you eat the standardAmerican diet, the sad diet, lots
of fat, lots of sugar,lots of salt, you are probably in
a permanent state of inflammation because thingslike sugar cause inflammation. So it's it.

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I'm not sure we all we allknow, Mandy, dead cows are
due to the black un helicopters.Sure, okay, the cow could have
dropped dead. Also, it coststo dispose of dead animals. Someone could
have dumped it there. What No, no, I'm saying. And as
a matter of fact, when Igo home today, I'm gonna stop and

(01:02:45):
inspect. I'm gonna do a littlewalk around because I know where I saw
it could be diseased if it droppeddead. Watch out. Maybe cows hate
the heat apparently, but y'all,there's no cows in this area. It's
like drama. Neighborhood on one side, neighborhood on the other side. Bam,
cow dead on the side of theroad. Mandy. I've seen five

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that cows jumped from the open trailer. Wow. Oh, here we go.
I've seen numerous cattle and even afew horses hit and killed in Welld
County. Wow was the one yousaw red? It wasn't red. It
was like it was a brown cow, reddish brown. Maybe I guess we
could call it a red cow.Are you missing a cow? Texter is

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so I can tell you where itis. Apparently, it is not totally
uncommon for a cow to fall outof a trailer during transport, so that
seems to be a reasonable explanation.This one says in eastern Olpasso County,
I've driven my dead cow. I'vedriven dead cows, and a rancher told

(01:03:50):
me it's from someone who is carelessdriving a trailer. So there you go.
There are plenty of rented cows aroundDouglas County to keep AG's status.
Had a heard eight of eight behindour house five years ago accessing water in
Cherry Creek. Their adept at gettingout, Well, there you go,
There you go, Hi, Mandy. My husband has been a firefighter for

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twenty five years and has seen multipleanimals hit by cars. If the dead
cow had been hit, there'd bea scattering of car debris around the area.
Cars and passengers also don't fare wellafter hitting a moose. That's what
I'm thinking. Maybe it fell offthe cow truck, you know. I
that's the only I'm gonna stop andinvestigate on the way home, although I'm
gonna have to stop, park mycar and then walk because there's no place

(01:04:38):
to stop in this general vicinity.I wanna tell you guys a story about
Snopes. Remember when snopes dot comwas where everyone went when they saw something
and they were like, is thattrue? Go to snopes dot com and
I'll check it out. And thenSnopes became basically an arm of the Democratic
Party. The couple that runs snopesdot com, I just had a dog

(01:05:01):
hair in my mouth. That's lovely. Thanks Jinks, You're awesome. And
I know it was one of herstoo. In any case, snopes dot
com used to be where we allwent to do our fact checking, and
then the couple that runs snopes dotcom was uncovered to be just staunch progressive
liberal Democrats. And then immediately youcould easily tell the bias at snopes dot

(01:05:26):
com as they moved into the politicalsphere. It used to be just like
you would see something on the Internetabout a weird story and then Snopes would
debunk it. Then they started gettinginto the political sphere and they became absolute
trash, just nonsensical, not worthyour time, garbage. So this,
this particular adjustment has me a littleperplexed. We all remember when Donald Trump

(01:05:48):
made comments about the horrible situation inCharlottesville, Virginia, where a bunch of
white supremacists marched in protest of tearingdown Confederate statues. Now, there were
other people there at this protest,including people from the community who did not
want to tear down the statues becausethey were part of the history of the

(01:06:10):
town, and they were also thereprotesting. They happened to be there at
the time same time white supremacists werethere. Now, Donald Trump famously said
there are fine people on both sides, but then he went on to say
that the white supremacist should be condemnedwholeheartedly. So there's a whole sentence there.
But the narrative that Donald Trump saidabout white supremacists there are fine people

(01:06:33):
on both sides immediately grew legs,and Joe Biden still repeats it to this
day. To this day, hestill says that. So it's kind of
odd that snoopes has just now afterall these years. This happened in twenty
seventeen, So seven years later,snoops has updated this entry the claim.

(01:06:56):
On August fifteenth, twenty seventeen,then President Donald Trump called neo Nazison supremacists
who attended the Unite the Right rallyin Charlottesville, Virginia very fine people.
Now, the context is in anews conference after the rally protesting the planned
removal of a Confederate statue. Trumpdid say there were very fine people on

(01:07:18):
both sides, referring to the protestersand the counter protesters. He said in
the same statement he wasn't talking aboutneo Nazis and white nationalists, who he
said should be condemned totally. Sowhy did they update it now? I

(01:07:38):
mean, trust me, I don'tthink Snopes is somehow a better fact checking
site. I haven't been to snopesdot com in maybe ten years, and
I'm not exaggerating, but I'm curiousas to why. Oh I know,
I know because later on in theeditor's note they had to add this editor's
note. Some readers have raised theobjection that this fact check appears to assume

(01:08:01):
Trump was correct in stating that thereweren't quote very fine people on both sides
of the Charlottesville incident. That isnot the case. This fact checked aim
to confirm what Trump actually said,not whether what he said was true or
false. For the record, virtuallyevery source that covered the Unite the Right
debacle concluded that it was conceived,of, led by, and attended by

(01:08:24):
white supremacists, and that therefore Trumpwas wrong. So they went on to
make sure you know he's still racist. Don't worry. Don't worry, to
your readers of snopes dot com.We are still doing the work of the
Democratic Party for you. We're justtrying to make ourselves a little more accurate,
so maybe people will pay attention tous again. There you go,

(01:08:45):
there you go, and yes,a dog hair is better than a cow
hair in your mouth. Aim endto that. Tomorrow is primary day,
so the first round of the politicalseason will be over after tomorrow, afternoons.
So she's going to join us.At about two yesterday or maybe the
day before yesterday, it was aPride parade. A group of pro Hamas

(01:09:06):
protesters interrupted the Pride parade and oneof them appeared Maybe I was wrong,
but just based on the video thatI saw, happened to be looked like
a trans person, like maybe aguy who thought he was a woman but
still totally looked like a dude.But you know, had had sort of

(01:09:29):
dulled himself up. And all Icould think of was these people, these
people are beyond stupid. I mean, this is the equivalent of the Lambs
protesting for the rights of the lions, right, I mean, I looked
it up just to find out ifwhat I thought to be true was accurate.

(01:09:50):
The largest pride parade and one ofthe top ten pride parades in the
world is in tel Aviv, Israel. They have a Pride parade in Jerusalem,
they have a Pride parade in TelAviv, and these are some of
the largest pride celebrations. I don'tknow about Jerusalem, but I know tel
Aviv is is massive. And yetyou have these dumbasses out there protesting a

(01:10:15):
pride parade. And again we talkedabout it earlier in the show, these
idiotic eco warriors who are out theredoing dumb stuff, trying to convince people
that they need to do more tosave the environment. I'm thinking, I
don't know what you think you're goingto move here, but what did you
think you were going to accomplish bystopping the Pride parade. If I were

(01:10:39):
a gay person, there's a zeropercent chance that I would be advocating for
the rights of the Palestinian people becausein the Gaza bank or excuse me,
in Gaza, being gay is notexactly what you might want to think is
progress. In Hamas, you canarrested, you can be jailed. You

(01:11:02):
can face severe punishments for being gay. Don't even get me started on trans
people. I mean, I guessif you were if you were a trans
woman, you could just wear aburka all the time and no one would
know. There's no freedoms, noliberties for gay and trans people in the
Gaza strip in the West Bank.In many nations, Muslim nations like Iran,

(01:11:25):
they still punish people with capital punishment. You're allowed to if you have
a gay family member, you're allowedto kill them in the name of the
honor of your family. Honor killings. Some gay people are allowed. They're
okay, You're fine, as longas you make sure that they're a homeo
first. And yes, I saidthat in a purposely provocative way. I'm

(01:11:46):
just I'm one of those people thatif I do something, I want to
know that it's going to be effective, or that I stand a chance of
it being effective. Right. Iwant results for my actions. I don't
want to just do something to makemyself feel better, to make myself feel
special or important, or make myselffeel like I'm part of something bigger.

(01:12:10):
If I'm going to take action,then it's gonna be purposeful action. That
I hope will have a purposeful impact. And showing up at a Pride parade
and disrupting the parade, you're notchanging anyone's mind. No one's gonna look
at that and go wow. Ihad never thought about it until right now,
but thankfully they blocked this Pride parade, and now I'm gonna support Hamas,

(01:12:30):
just like these people in the streetright now. And don't kid yourself.
If you support the Palestinian people,they support Hamas. All of the
latest polling data says they support Hamas. So if you support the Palestinian people,
you support Hamas. You support peoplewho raped and murdered and beheaded people
and have destroyed every place they've everbeen. That's who you support. And

(01:12:59):
you can delude yourself all you wantthat you're doing this because oppressed a press
or whatever, but the Palestinian peopleare consistently oppressed by Hamas, the people
that you are supporting. I'm justthese these people are just not They're not
intelligent, They're they're useful idiots ata level that we have not seen in
some time. Complete morons. It'sjust kind of sad, really, I

(01:13:25):
mean really sad. So that isone of those things that again, I
mean we'll see. I'm gonna tellyou y'all. The DNC is cooking up
to be quite the party, anda Rod and I will be there thanks
to our sponsors, Golden Spike Roofingand the Rocky Mountain Voice. Cannot wait

(01:13:45):
to see all of that unfold andhopefully not get killed. Aron, How
are we not gonna get killed?Do we have a strategy? Are we
gonna wear football helmets? Let's wearfootball helmets just in case? Are we
gonna want to wear Is it smartto consider wearing those press bests? I
actually am thinking about that because Ithink we would be though. No,

(01:14:06):
No, I mean no, Iwould press best for that situation. But
if you're talking about a mob ofpeople, thousands and thousands of people in
the street in front of the DNC, I want to press best on.
But to the mob, if you'rein the mob, like reporting inside of
it or being inside of it,don't you want to have them think you're

(01:14:27):
one of them? No, becauseyou've already got a microphone in your hand.
Okay, you're already not one ofthem. They already know it.
I would rather clearly delineate it.Do you think the mob would want to
target you more though, like waitand see if they do. The food
it will go in. We'll justgo in, you know, incognito.
The second day. It's the secondday. I appreciate the texture, said
Mandy. Did you check in tosee if the cow's internal organs had been

(01:14:49):
removed by a surgical laser? Idid not, but I will stop on
the way home and poke it witha stick to find out. A woman
that you've heard of several times onthis program, she is the candidate in
the fourth congressional district that I proudlyfilled up my ballot for Deep Flour and
welcome back to the show. Thankyou, Maddy. It's so great to

(01:15:09):
be here. I can't believe it'sjust about thirty six hours now until the
primary is over. But it's greatto be with you, great to talk
with you again, great to talkto your listeners. And I just want
to start by saying, if you'venot sent your ballot in, please do
so because it is a historic lowturnout across the country, which means conversely,
your vote has incredible weight and canreally be the one to make the

(01:15:32):
difference, as i'd like to say, between more DC drama and dysfunction or
new principal leadership that can get ourcountry back on track. I'd be honored
to earn your vote. Well,And this is you know, I'm getting
a lot of stuff on the textline because Ross did a voter guide,
and then I went to do avoter guide and I'm like, I'm going
to say the same thing Ross isgoing to say, So I'm not going
to do that. But there area lot of races that are uncontested on

(01:15:55):
a lot of these ballots, dependingon where you are, if you're in
chef Co, there's a lot ofuncontested stuff. People are tempted to say,
look, you know what, Ican't vote for most of this stuff.
But if you have contested races,even if you only have one contested
race, that vote means so muchthat you don't even have to if it's
uncontested, just don't even worry aboutthe rest of it. That if you
have any contested races in your ballotor on your ballot, you could be

(01:16:18):
the deciding factor. And that's notbeing dramatic, because some of these races
are going to come down to ahandful of votes in one way or the
other. Yeah, without a doubt, and particularly if you're in CD four
and is so everyone knows, don'tpresume you're not because it has been redistricted.
It is all of Douglas County,all of the Eastern Plains, it

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is Loveland, it is Wellington andWindsor. It's a huge district. And
this one is particularly important because thereis the opportunity to choose a candidate for
the fourth Congressional district. Manny,you and I've talked about it. You've
talked about a lot. There's sixpeople on the ballot for the Republican nomination.
But the reason why the Gazette endorseme, why we receive the endorsement

(01:17:02):
of not just the Douglas County Sheriff, but the Elbert County Sheriff, many
mayors, many city council members,of veterans, etc. Is because really
they are indicating clearly that it's comedown to a two women race between Lauren
Bobert and myself, and when youlook at the polls, I'm actually the
one that can win and keep thisseat and work to get our country back

(01:17:23):
on track. I'd like to saytoo, that we've seen really great voter
engagement since I last boke to you, Manue. We had a border security
and public safety forum last week.We had well over one hundred different voters
show up. It was with theDouglas County Sheriff, it was with John
Kellner, the district attorney. Itwas with John Fabrigatory, former Ice,

(01:17:45):
also a CD six candidate, andwe were talking about the number one issue
of our day. And what Iwant to say to voters is in a
period where many feel like maybe theirvotes don't matter, this is exactly the
time that it matters. And we'veseen a lot of great feedback when we've
been knocking on doors, when we'vebeen doing honkin' waves, when we have
been out there phone calling folks andmeeting them face to face. This is

(01:18:08):
exactly when your vote can make adifference. And you know, the reality
is, if we want something differentin DC, it's time to elect a
different kind of a candidate. I'mnot a career politician and I'm not someone
that's involved in just social mediabate andcelebrity. Well, and I've been talking
over the last week or so,like I just had a conversation with my

(01:18:30):
daughter's orthodonist, right, and hewas like, you know, I don't
really know who. He went toa debate and he said, you know,
this person said things I really liked, and I said, I really
like that person, but I don'tthink that person can win. So the
thing I want to talk about isthere are a lot of people in this
race, and I think a vastmajority of them cannot win this race.
They don't have any support in thepolls that I've seen. And it doesn't

(01:18:51):
mean they're not good people. Itdoesn't mean that they're not you know,
they haven't served the community. Well, it just means they can't win this
primary. So I'm asking people,and I said this to Mike worth Adonis.
I'm like, I sure wish youwould consider Deborah Flora because I do
believe she can win, and Ido believe that if she is the nominee,
she can win in the fall.And my concern here is, and

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we've already seen it, McCorkle isalmost the presumed nominee. He has an
opponent in Trish caliv racea who Iactually really like Trish. I think she's
very reasonable and I had a nicechat with her at the Weld County event.
But he's the presumed nominee, andoutside money is already pouring into his
coffers because people want him to runagainst Lauren Bobert. So if Lauren is

(01:19:39):
the candidate, it changes the entiredynamic of this race. We see what's
happened in CD three where Adam Frischhas continued to fundraise off Lauren Bobert even
though she's not even in that race. So if people would assume whoever wins
this primary is going to win thegeneral election, I think that's problem true,

(01:20:00):
but it is not the luck thathas been in the past few years,
especially if whoever the Democratic candidate isgets an influx of you know,
three, four or five million dollarsof spending. Because Lauren is the candidate.
It's it's the situation that she hashelped create with her bombastic personality.
She is the most loathed Republican,she and Marjorie Taylor Green, and it's

(01:20:24):
going to get a lot of nationalattention. So I just want to make
that point, right, I justwant and I think a lot of people
in the fourth are irritated that shecarpet bag over to bring all that drama
to our district. It's a greatpoint because I think the day that we
say that will never happen in Coloradoor that will never happen in CD four
is long gone, and you reallyoutlined it so well. Lauren Bobert almost

(01:20:47):
lost her home seat in one term. This is before all the headlines.
She only wanted by five hundred votes, and that City three is a safe
Republican seat with the right candidate.It's an R plus eight, let's say,
meaning it's got an eight point spreadtowards Republicans. So the problem wasn't
the seat. And then polling clearlyshowed she was going to lose CD three

(01:21:08):
this time, so she jumped sixhundred miles away to come here, and
millions of dollars of Democrat money flowedinto that race simply to beat her.
It is very disingenuous for her oranyone to say that money isn't coming.
In fact, whether it's I mccorkyland a recent poll showing her losing to
him by double digits, it wasactually increase in how much she'd lose from

(01:21:30):
the first pole. Or you goto Trish Cavalry's her website, Everything for
both of them is all about LaurenBobert. The Democrats want Lauren Bobert to
be the nominee, and you betterbelieve millions of dollars will flow in.
The reason why I agree with you, Manti Nachs, because I'm running,
but that I'm the one that canwin and keep this seat. This seat
is now seventy three percent suburban,it is now forty nine percent unaffiliated.

(01:21:57):
Douglas County is half of the electorate. We have got to hold it there
for the future of what this beachheadmeans for balance in Colorado, and we
have to have someone that resonates there. I will work hard to represent everyone
in the Eastern Plains, and Ilove the people out there. There's some
of the salt of the earth andthey definitely should be made sure to have
a seat at the table. Iwill do that. But we have to

(01:22:18):
hold this seat where the population centeris where we risk losing it, and
I am that candidate. And tobe clear, you cannot mail your ballot
today or tomorrow. You must goto a drop box or you can go
vote in person tomorrow if you wantto go old school, which I kind
of like the whole although now it'snot as dramatic as it was when we
have the curtains that would slam shuton the voter booth. But that being

(01:22:42):
said, do not put your ballotin the mail. Do not put your
ballot in the mail. Find outwhere the closest dropbox is. Most of
them are located around cop shops ortown halls, depending on what where you
are in your community. You've gotto deliver it by seven pm tomorrow in
order to have it count, regardlessof who you're voting for. I realize
that we do have a lot ofLauren Vobert supporters in this audience. This

(01:23:04):
goes for everyone, regardless of whoyou're supporting for. If you want your
vote to count, and because ofthe nature of this race, I believe
every vote is going to count.I think that it's going to matter greatly
that you turned in your ballot withouta doubt. We've been saying that you
know far and wide, and evenon Emmelo we put out we put a

(01:23:25):
link so you can find out whereyour ballot box is. It will not
count if you mail it. Youhave to drop it off at a secured
ballot box, and please please dothat. You know one other thing that
I want to say to Mandy aboutthe importance of this race. This race
is about who's going to be theRepublican nominee for the Forest Congressional District.
I'm asking for Erwin's vote as someonewho has been living, working and fighting

(01:23:48):
alongside my neighbors in CD four foryears. I do believe that it is
represented to government, not jumping fromthe other side of the state because you're
going to lose there and then comingsix hundred miles overheat. But it's also
important because it's important for the futureof our party and also of the republic
And here's what I mean. We'vegot to a point where it's so dysfunctional

(01:24:10):
in DC. Nothing is getting donefor the people, even within the Republican
Caucus. The last one of thelast times that had closed door meeting,
it broke into fisticuffs, shouting,people walked out. It is time that
we send principled leadership to DC.My goal is to help rebuild the party,
help down ballot races. You canbe an independent and not care about

(01:24:32):
the Republican Party, but the realityis we're really have gotten to where the
two extreme prinches of the party arewhat are kind of wagging the tail,
wagging the dog versus standing on principleand policy finding to secure the border,
cut inflation, revitalize our economy,pull government back in again, but do
it in a way where I willfocus on helping down ballot races so we

(01:24:55):
will also finally see some balance inDenver as well. That's one of my
focuses. Deborah Flori is my guest. She's running in the fourth congressional district.
Deborah, I know that you're goingto be out there telling people to
get out the vote, and hopefullywe will chat after the primary and we
will celebrate your victory in the primary. That is what I'm hoping will happen.

(01:25:15):
I do have a couple of people, and I don't know how this
has been missed. This guy said, still haven't heard her say she's pro
life. Hut. I mean Ifeel like you've said that multiple times on
this show. Yes. Yeah.You know what's interesting is we have had
gosh, I've lost track of thenumber of forums we've had. We've had
at least ten. I've won moreof those stropols than all of the other

(01:25:39):
candidates combined, and that's been arepeated issue. I am pro life.
In fact, I served two termson care Net which is the national board
that supports pregnancy resource centers and womenin crisis, is an area where I've
been standing and fighting for years.So you know, that's something that is
a very public record. We've talkedabout a lot, but I'm happy to
answer that that textures question. Andby the way, I do encourage everyone

(01:26:03):
please go to Deborah Flora dot com. I'm actually the only candidate that has
written out a detail plan listing everythingI'm standing and fighting for, called the
Roadmap to Restoring America. And thentwo weeks ago, right before we had
this very very successful and important conversationabout border security and public safety where I

(01:26:23):
was down at the border last yearfor an extended period, we released an
even more in depth policy about securingthe border, including building the wall,
defunding sanctuary cities, making sure thatwe stop catch and release, we restate
the stay in Mexico POLLI, wereform asylum so it's not just a ticket
to come all the way up tothe United States of America where we're overwhelming

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our system. So I've written everythingout and I encourage everyone go to Deborah
Flora dot com. All right,deb thank you. I'll let you get
back to calling and getting people toget out the vote, and we'll talk
to you again after the primary.That sounds great. Thank you so much,
Mandy. Thank you to all thelisteners. Please do put your ballot
in a secure dropbox today or tomorrow. Thank you so much. Take care

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all right. That is Deborah Flora, and again, get your vote.
There's a lot of uncontested races inthese primaries and that that is so that's
a sad commentary on our political systemthat we have right now, that we
have so many safe districts that theother party just is like, oh,

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not worth the time because we knowwe can't get elected there. It's just
jerry mandering is a is a realyou know what, although now we have
fair district in Colorado. I wantto say this really, really, really
quickly. Somebody just said this Mandy. At Parker Day's, a candidate told

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me they wanted to draw straws amongthe five with the four losers endorsing the
winner to go alone against Bobert.He said, Flora nixed it all but
giving the wind to Bobert. Doyou know why Flora knicks it because she
has more support than the other fourcandidates, So why would you? Why
would you? After you've she wasthe first person in the race, she

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has built an entire organization, She'sgotten more money donated to her than any
of the other candidates, maybe allthe other candidates combined. Why would you
give that up? That doesn't makeany sense. That's the dumbest thing I've
ever heard. You know who saysthat, someone who knows they're losing,
and they figure since they're already losing, they may as well just roll the
dice and go with draw and straws. That's just if they really cared about

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it when they were losing, theyshould have dropped out. Just throwing that
out there anyway, Grant, didyou vote yet? Grant in the studio
right now, I have not.Do you need help? Honestly, yes,
because I have not paid much attentionto it. Well, if you
have questions, I'm here for you, so I will. I will be

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I will give you my honest opinions, and you can make any choices you
want. I don't want to tellsomeone what to do, but I will
tell them why I think I'm right. Then that's totally different. That's not
the same as telling people what todo. No, I listened to you
and Ross both for voting advice.Yep. So if Lauren says this Texter
wins the primary and loses the generalelection, will you scapegoat to Lauren or

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realize the fact that Colorado is adark blue liberal asshole. I will scapegoat
to Lauren Bobert if she loses inthe general. And I've already said if
she wins the primary, I'm goingto vote for her. I don't want
to, but I'm going to.But if she loses in the general,
that is on her. Because Ilive in the fourth congressional district. That

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district should be solidly Republican. Maybecompetitive, but still a Republican victory,
just the makeup of the district,you know what you had. I was
working Ross's show last week, andyet Lauren Bobert came on and it was
the most reasonable I've ever heard hersound. I kind of came away with
that, liking her a little bitmore. She has been suitably chastised,

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right well, I mean by allthe self inflicted drama she's had, Right,
She's had a really rough couple ofyears personally, right, And so
I'm glad to hear that. I'mglad that she has sort of dropped the
bombastic nonsense, right because all theclips you see of her some of her
yelling or some personal drama she's gettinginto. So that's all nuts. Yeah,

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it was nice to hear her soundreasonable. Well, like I said,
I would prefer Deborah in the primary, but if Lauren wins, I'm
going to go ahead and you know, vote for Lauren. So there you
go. We're going to be joinedby Jake the Snake Plumber shut up.
Yeah. We played a clip lastweek of the advice John Elway gave to
Jake Plumber when he came to Denver. So we're gonna ask him what advice

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he would give to the new quarterbackbo nixt Nice. I like it.
Plug his mushroom company. I wantto talk to him about the mushroom tank.
You should, yes, please do. I'd like to have him on
the show about his mushrooms. Wealso get to go Panthers. Good lord,
please don't let that happen. Theywere down three to oh, the
Panthers were up three to oh inthe series, and the Oilers forced Game
seven. I'm talking about hockey.That's why I had no idea. Don't

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the dairy count I like the Boilersto complete the combat and conversation in the
next show because I had absolutely nothingto add to this. We will be
back tomorrow, so keep it righthere on KOA