06-30-25 FULL SHOW - Oh Hey, Is That William Shatner On the Calendar - The Mandy Connell Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 5 (00:26):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Monday edition of the show.
I'm your host for the next three hours. Mandy Connell, joined,
of course, by my right hand man, I call him
a Rod, you can call him Anthony Rodd. And we
are about four minutes away from our scheduled interview with
mister William Shatner. You may know his work on Star Trek,

(00:48):
but Jimmy Segenberger is a NERD for Star Trek and
Jimmy Puts on Mama Calendar was like, Hey, do you
want to talk to WILLIAMS. Shatner this day because he's
coming into town, you know, for the fan Expo Denver,
and maybe you want to just say hi. And I
was like, yeah, so Jimmy's here too, because he's the
Star Trek nerd.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
I am, in fact a trekky since I was a kid.
I love Star Trek and you know Shatner though, maybe
think about Denny Crane on Boston.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Lee Crane is one of the greatest characters to ever
Grace Television did not love that show, but God, I
loved him on that show.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
Victoria my fiance, of course, and I are. She finally
got me to watch it with her in a rewatch.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
And I'm so good. It's so good.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Shatner and also James Spader just absolutely phenomenal, unmatched in
that show. In terms of that, we get to.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Talk to him.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
In case you're wondering, William Shatner is currently ninety four
years old.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Ninety four.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
I don't want to like beat this dead horse when
he comes on the air, but he is doing I
wonder how many radio interviews today, because what happens when
you're bringing someone big to town. Everybody wants to talk
to them, and they sort of line them all up,
and he goes from all to call to call to go.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
It's really hard to do that.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
And he's ninety four, and I'm super excited to get
to talk.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
To him and imagine all the conventions that he goes
to traveling across the country coming here. He's also been
doing some tours celebrating forty years. It was a few
years ago, but forty years of Star Trek to the
Wrath of Khan, which really brought Star Trek back into
popular culture. Exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Okay, out of the series real quick, here, which one
is the best? We'll take out the original because that's
the that's like the mother ship of the show, right,
So after that, what is the best Star Trek show
in your opinion?

Speaker 6 (02:41):
I would have to say Deep Space nine, which came
out next and although I love Next Gen.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Both have an argument there, but I'm a next Gen myself.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Characters of Next Generation I'm probably love more. But the
show and a lot of the qualities and things that
Deep Space nine brought, I think you know would take
the case when we set aside yep Shatner's oone series. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
And for those of you who are right now wondering
how to find the blog, I'm done with you people, Okay.
I've decided to move the blog reading to twelve thirty
three when we.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Get back from the.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
News, because maybe those people will be able to follow
the extremely simple directions that I give out every single
day and stop emailing me and saying things at me
on Twitter.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Don't make us Tell Captain Kirk you can't find, which
should be finding.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Seriously, but for apparently, finding the blog is like going
where no man has gone before. For these people, they
don't know how to do it. Anyways, this sucks right now? Okay,
it's a minute ninety seconds away, right and you're like,
are they going to be on time? Usually these things
are pretty tight, meaning the calls should come quickly. But
then is it What if it's not? Are we going
to continue to vamp Jimmy Singenberger.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
Who knows, Maybe they'll just beam him right here into
the studio. That would be absolutely amazing.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Out of everything I've seen on Star Wars, so much
of it is actually starting to come true. The holiday
is coming true with virtual reality glasses and things like
that Star Trek but still.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh sorry, what did I just say Star Wars? I
did it?

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Which also near and dear to my heart's preference.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
He's a Star Wars Trek guy.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
I love him both. I grew up first with Star Wars,
and then around middle school time I started watching Star
Trek and and now they're both near and dear to
my heart, and I would say I'm part of both fandoms.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
If I'm honest, I've seen all of the first three,
I meaning the first three in the series, not chronologically
of the Star Wars movies, and after that I kind
of lost interest. I'm not gonna lie. I've never watched
one single Star Wars series, but I've watched a bunch
of Star Trek series.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
I guess, Mandy, I.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Think I'm a trecky.

Speaker 7 (04:44):
I never knew this. Yeah, I almost as walked out.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
No, you know what it did? It did it for me?
Really is I did watch the one with George R. Binks,
and I think after that I was like, yeah, I
don't I think this.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm tapped out. I got so you're judging it on that.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
I'm just saying I'm not judging it. I just lost interest.
Oh god, I'm just saying, please take over. As we're
getting ready to talk to William Shatner. This is what
we're doing.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
I'll say, at least you have watched a lot of
Star Trek.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I've watched me.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Well, I think I've watched almost all the Star Trek series,
although some of them just weren't that good. The more
recent ones are hit or miss. That's what I'm saying.
I'll get three episodes in and say, eh, I'm done
with this. I get bored easily with entertainment options, and
I like, I'll start watching a series and then never
watch the last two like seasons. The Americans was a

(05:36):
perfect example of that. There was a great show and
absolutely great. I'm watching Jimmy. I got one eye right now.
It's like Marty Feldman, I'm going right eye on the phone,
left eye on Jimmy and a rod and the phone
is ringing in as soon as he puts them on hold.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
We are going to talk to William Shatner, Captain Kirk.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
I have the theme song going through my head, including
the intro voiced by mister Shaft himself was Chountain Kirk.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
You probably know if I heart, don't you. I wonder
how many people have said that to him.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
I'm sure they've said many many things over the years.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Shatner, all right, I'd.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Love to welcome to the show of the man, the myth,
the legend. He has been in our homes for I
don't even know how many decades now. William Shatner, known
of course as James T. Kirk in the Star Trek franchise,
but also the creator of some of.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
The greatest characters.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
In television, including Denny Crane off the Practice in Boston Legal.
He also starred in what might have been the funniest
two seasons of programming I have ever seen, in a
little show called Better Late Than Ever. William Shatner, Welcome
to my program.

Speaker 8 (06:43):
Thank you. What a plan. I've been aching to be
on your program for years.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
I've heard that about you. You've ached for the show
for so long. I am a treky, but I have
another treky here with me, Jimmy Sangenberger. We're going to
get to those questions in a moment.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
I've heard Jimmy was enthusiastic. This enthusiastic is you?

Speaker 9 (07:01):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (07:01):
And all of that doesn't matter? You know why? Why
because you can come and see me. I'm going to
be there Thursday.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
At the Fan Expo Denver.

Speaker 8 (07:14):
That's what I'm going to do. How did you know that?
Because that's where I'm going to be Thursday and Friday.
Unfortunately I have to fly off Saturday morning. But Thursday
and Friday, I'm going to expect to see all of
your audience coming to the comic com and have a
good time with me and talk to me and take

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a picture and get a signature, and have some fun
at the Comic com.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
The fan Expo Denver is incredibly popular. You're going to
have an amazing time. But if I could ask you
quickly about the series, better late than ever, because I
will tell you, mister Shatner, my husband and I laughed
until we cried watching this show. I'd love to know
if it was as fine as it appeared on TV.

Speaker 8 (08:02):
Oh, it was great fun and arguous because we had
to get out of the wherever we were the next
day and get on an airplane, fly someplace, disembarked, get
the hotel, shoot a day's worth of shooting, which was
all I had lived. So nothing was scripted, but situations suggested,

(08:26):
and everybody had a voice, and all five of us
were were terrific, and I just enjoyed everybody's company so much.
But moving along every day to somewhere else, and long
flights elsewhere and time changes, it got so that it

(08:51):
was so expense that we're decided after the second year,
we can't afford to fly one hundred people everywhere. They
stopped the show.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
I loved it, but not as much as Jimmy loves
Star Trek so I'm going to let him ask you
a few questions.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
Oh, William Shatner, it is. It is exciting to have
you on. It is the very difficult challenge to figure
out how to narrow down the many millions of questions
swirling through my head. But since you're.

Speaker 8 (09:20):
Coming, narrow them down, Jimmy, don't narrow them down, just
say them all off rapidly. I'll pick one.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Okay, Well I'll start with this one.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
How about that you're coming to Fan Expo Denver. I've
been there the last few years, very excited to have you.
When you go to a convention like this, what does
that mean to you personally and professionally and in particular
as well?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
What role have.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
They really had over the last coming up next year,
sixty years and helping to keep Star Trek not just
alive but thriving.

Speaker 8 (09:52):
Okay, so you know what that's called a that's called
a compound question.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
It is.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
See, I'm trying to narrow in a couple of them.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Question.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
I don't know where to start. I don't know, Jimmy,
let me talk. That's part of the interview. I don't
know where to start to answer that question. What does
it mean? To me, I did these comic cons because
I meet the fans and I've just come off. For example,
this weekend, I was in Taekwonderoga, upstate New York, which

(10:22):
holding chit talk was It's an Indian term for like
a conversation, and I'd be in front of and I
did this seven or eight times this weekend, be in
front of an audience of fifty sixty seventy people and
start a conversation like what do you do and why
do you do that? And so many incredible things happened
between the fans and myself. It's gotten to the point

(10:43):
where the fans in Taekwonderoga come to Taekwonderoga because they've
heard but an extraordinary time. That hour hour and a
half that we have between me and the fans of
the audience is an extraordinary opening time in terms of revelation.
And that's what I just did this weekend. I will

(11:05):
do that this coming weekend in on a limited basis.
I think once on Thursday, for I'm not sure where
I'll stand in front of the audience and tell stories
or take questions and provoke and invoke the audience's response.
And I mean, we have a great time. And then

(11:26):
I'll sign autographs, and while i'm song signing, I'll talk,
and then there's pictures, and then there's all these other people,
not me, but addressed in costumes walking around and it's
just joyful time. So I urge your audience come down
to the Comic co on Thursday and Friday and Friday,
and I'll be there and I'd love to see y'all.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Yes, Fan Expo Denver coming to the Denver Colorado Convention
Center in Denver Thursday through Sunday, and William Shatner our
guests here on Thursday and Friday. Let's ask one question
as we wrap up with you, sir, about Captain Kirk.
How much would you say that being Kirk on television

(12:10):
and in film was you? And how much of you
became Captain Kirk over the decades.

Speaker 8 (12:19):
Well, I'm sure it doesn't come as a surprise to
you that I'm Shatner and I said the words that
were supposed to be Captain Kirk's words, but they were
written for me. Yes, So I said the words, and
I said them as best I could, and memorized them
as best I could, and did what little I could

(12:42):
to be a character it's called a mask. And my
new album I Love Tomorrow will be out in a while,
and one of the songs is called Masks. How actors
and people all every way of life wear masks so

(13:03):
that we're different people to different we're different, we are
different people to different people. And so I Shatner appeared
to be Captain Kirk. And because it's ten pages a
day in shooting a series, there's no time to up
the skate or plan. So I would say a great
deal of me is was what you see as Captain Kirk.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Mister Shatner.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
I'd love to have you back when your album comes out,
but people can come see you Thursday and Friday at
the Fan Expo Denver down at the Convention Center. It's
going to be an absolute blast. Thank you so much
for your time today. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (13:40):
Thank you for saying that, and I look forward to
perhaps seeing you all right. Care everybody a pleasure talking
to you.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
Thank you, sir. How good is that.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Cool?

Speaker 6 (13:50):
You gotta love the segue there too, because I asked
a question about Kirk and he's got another album. He's
a prolifical with his albums over the years.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's amazing.

Speaker 10 (14:03):
That was one of the best I've ever heard of
a guy like getting back to his own marketing. Yeah,
he's really really good that one. I don't mean to
ruin your show. I just have, Okay, one question for you.
I don't know that I've ever seen you so excited
in the minute or two or three or five before
an interview like is that he's.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Such as icon right, He's kind of a touchstone guy
for American culture because I think if you are an
American of the last seventy five years, you know who
Captain Kirk is.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
You know who William Shatner is.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
He's just been such a woven in and he's ninety
four years old.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
He sounds amazing. He doesn't sound like an old.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Man every time you see him. So for example, a
couple of months ago, when the whole United States would
make Canada the fifty first state, thing was going on
all over Twitter and then on TV with Jesse Waters.
Without missing a beat, Chatner talks about how he would
I'd love to see where that the United States should
become Canada's eleventh province, and it just flowed out absolutely perfectly.

(15:08):
And that's the thing is he's absolutely got it together
like that guy I would vote for for president at
ninety four.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
You know, I'm not saying he's not buying any green bananas,
but the fact that and Jimmy and I were talking
about this before before the show. This guy's ninety four.
He flies all over the country to these comic cons.
I mean, think about that. I'm still exhaust act. Although
I got good sleep this weekend, I was exhausted for
like ten days when I got back from Japan, and
I'm only fifty five. I mean, he's just He's I

(15:37):
that was a thrill, it was. It was kind of
cool to be able to end. I'm telling you right now,
if you have never watched the show Better Late than Never, I.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Have to check it out.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
It is just him, Henry Winkler, Terry Bradshaw, and George
Foreman traveling all over Europe together.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Where can we watch it? I don't know if where
you could find it now.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
It was done by NBC, but it is I mean
probably Peak Seas.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
The first season was literally gut bustingly fun. It's called
Better Late than Never. It's about these four old dudes
in a comedian who fly around.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Europe and the thing is that William Shatner. His comic timing.
Comedic timing is second to none. You could see it
on Boston Legal. There was also that I think they
only had one season of it, which was sad bleep.
My dad says, do you ever see that comedy that
was on TV? So he was a dad. It was
a dad daughter kind of thing and it was hysterical,

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particularly because of what he brought to the character. And
that's what an actor of that caliber is able to do.
His music albums are hilarious.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Well, he's got another one coming out because you just
heard that, maybe we just broke news that Shatner's got
an album coming out out.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
Well done would be your it would be your.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
One of your kind of favorite pop culture people.

Speaker 10 (16:55):
Well for him, really yeah, hard to hard to top that.
I mean, you know, I'm a little older than you,
so I grew up watching Star Trek like when it
came out, and it's funny, I forget the number how
few seasons there are, Like it seems like the three season.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
It seems like the.

Speaker 10 (17:13):
Thing that was on for ten or fifteen or twenty
season was only on for three years.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
And it's still like you said.

Speaker 10 (17:17):
Man, it's in everybody's brain everybody, and everybody kind of
has an opinion on it.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
I mean we got into this like eight runs a
Star Wars guy, so that's you know, you got.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
Star Wars and the Star Trek one of the rare breed.
That's really both.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Oh so you're by star you're by sci fi star
star Wars.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
What you are?

Speaker 6 (17:37):
Star Wars my original? If I had to pick, I
mean I probably have to give the slight edge to
Star Wars because of my childhood and everything.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
That's like I said, I I just a Star Trek
has stuck with me more as an adult than Star
Wars has just you know, the whole concept of.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
The star you want me it continues your produce. Get
that again?

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah, what if we all like the same things? Life
would be very dull?

Speaker 6 (18:03):
A ko a Star Wars watch party.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
You need to be responsible. It's gonna go all day.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
We can pick a couple selections that the one man,
which is all but the first thing that you said
you stopped after seeing jar Jar Bak that was the fortune, right,
I mean you haven't seen two or three.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Those are some of my favorites. They're pre close, but they're.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Great thing I find upsetting. I'm not gonna lie like
it's very confused. The George, Well, if I ever had
the chance, I would that.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
Is one interview I would want to do above all
others other than mister Shatner is George Lucas.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
That would be.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
I have not, but that's a good idea that I should.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
He just should.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
He's a pretty private person nowadays.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
It doesn't really do all that might make.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
His wife might benship of the Broncos.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
What is very true.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
That is very very all the whole of.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
The bron No, if we're going to go out and
try and get somebody using those that leverage of the
Broncos ownership, I want.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
There you go well, I mean I mean this. I'm
glad that we could do this. Mandy you, thank you.
Star Wars, Star Trek and the Blues are my three
pop culture Jimmy filmed.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Because you've got a couple gigs coming out too.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
Oh wow, what a wonderful segue to get to them quick,
Almost as good as William Shatner's Saturday. The Jimmy Junior
Blues Band will be performing at in the Zone Bard
Grill in Golden from seven to eleven pm. And then
on Sunday, the twenty seventh of July, we will be
playing at the Genesee Pub and Barbecue. Technically the addresses

(19:48):
Golden but out in Genese and.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
We're looking forward to that at three pm.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
That's happening and I hope to see some KOA listeners there.
It will be an absolute great time. On the fifth
seven Jimmy Junior music dot com for the details.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
All right, we'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
I decided to do the blog at twelve thirty three,
which it is now, and I'm just gonna assume that
the people listening at twelve thirty three.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
You guys are sharp, you got it going on.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
You should very easily be able to follow these very
simple directions to find the blog.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's super easy.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Just go to mandy'sblog dot com mandy'sblog dot com, no apostrophe.
Then when you get there, you go to the latest
post section. Look for the headline that says six thirty
twenty five. That's today's date. By the way, Oh hey,
is that William Shatner on the calendar? Click on that
and here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
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Speaker 4 (20:44):
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Speaker 3 (20:46):
A that's going to press plat.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Today on the blog William Shatner's at twelve ten, the
New York City DEM candidate for mayor is.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
A complete idiot.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
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Dick Wadhams on delusion.

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green subsidies. I'm super proud of this side hustle. The
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this on a loop when someone asked me to do something.

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Tornadoes are terrifying? Is Jared Polus really gay? Those are
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two All winner, Now see you, twelve thirty ors. You
may not know we play Santa. That's Nancy Pelosi right there,
just giving us a positive affirmation after the blog every day,
letting me know how good it is. Not that I

(22:07):
need her approval any who. Obviously, we just had William Shatner.
That was so good, so good. Who would you like
to talk to you from your fandom, Anthony?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Who would it be?

Speaker 5 (22:20):
I mean, tell me, it's not like it can't be
more Campbell because he's insufferable about politics. Now, it's got
to be If if I was gonna choose anybody from
the Star Wars fandom, it would be Harrison Ford.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
And obviously it would probably go a lot like how
it just went with Shatner very much, so he's kind
of very similar. Yeah, maybe a little bit more uh
more Grinch, which is totally fine.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
That's his stick yep man. I think just because.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
It'd be so enjoyable and he seems to be such
a great person. Ewan McGregor, who played obi Obie, would
be really really delightful. Yeah yeah, but musically I mean
weird al well, of course, duh obviously, sports athlete wise,
Patrick Waugh of course, but nerd wise, it's gotta be
that or you know what outside of Star Wars two,

(23:15):
Marvel Kid me, Chris Evans or Robert Downey Jr. Obviously, Yeah,
I think RDJ would probably be really tough to please.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Chris Evans would probably be a lot more enjoyable to interview.
The same thing is the guys.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
It is like celebrities doing these interview sort of circuits.
They get asked the same questions over and over and
over and over again. Yeah, and I think it's just
you get to the point where it's such a grind.
But then you get a rear celebrity like William Shatner,
who totally didn't have to do that interview. By the way,

(23:48):
people are still going to stand in line to see
William Shatner at the Fan Expo Denver. It's going to happen.
But yet here he is, and he seemed like he
was excited to talk to us. That's the difference between
an actor and a star. Right there, Mandy, I followed
your instructions. Now where's the blog? All right, we've lost

(24:12):
one guy. He is not happy about this. He says,
have you not beaten this horse to death yet?

Speaker 7 (24:16):
God?

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Please let it go? People can find it. It wasn't
really funny day one. It's like day seven. I beg
to differ. Yeah, exactly, I think it is funny, Mandy.
That was impressive. Having William Shatner on was the peak
of my weekend. It's only Monday. Most remember him from
Star Trek. My favorite memory is watching him on TJ Hooker.

(24:39):
He's one of the reasons I became a police officer.
I wish I'd seen that before we had him online.
I would have loved to have tell him that little
tweet right there. That would have made his day. I
bet okay. Moving on from William Shatner now, last week,
when Zoron Mumdani won the nomination in New York City
to be the next mayor, he is now the official

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Democratic nominee, and the Republican nominee is the sort of
perennial Republican sacrificial lamb, and that is Curtis Sliwa. Curtis
Leiwa had a moment back in the eighties. Do you
even know who Curtis Sliwa is or what he's Okay?
I just looked at a rod and I realized, you
know what, a Rod wasn't even alive. When Curtis Lee

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was at the peak of his celebrity, when New York
City was extremely dangerous still, people were getting killed on
the subway, and Curtis Sliwa and another guy whose name
escapes me started this thing called the Guardian Angels, and
they were known for riding the subway and they all
had these red berets and these satin jackets and they

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sort of rode the subways as a personal security force.
And Curtis Lee was shot to fame because of that.
But y'all, that was forty years ago, and he's still
I mean now he's been on the radio, he's kind
of done a little bit of everything, but he's just
a candidate that does not inspire any kind of passion.
And now I bet the Republicans are like day it.

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We may have had a chance because this guy on
the Democratic side, who is the assumed next mayor, because well,
do you really think a Republican is gonna win a
New York City? This guy's a train wreck and we
have to talk about him because it is my fear
that we are going to get something even worse in Denver.
If this Yahoo ends up being the mayor of New

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York City, he's an absolute train wreck. I have a
video today on the blog today. It's from Twitter or
x or whatever you want to call it, and in it,
this next mayor of New York City is performatively in
a park in New York eating with his hands, eating

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rice with his hands. And I just want to share
with you what this hole. And it is purely performative.
And I'll tell you why in just a moment. Listen
to this, Eric, can I have my my computer? Please
listen to what he says. He's eating with his hands.
He's eating rice with his hands, Okay, in a park
in New York City.

Speaker 11 (27:09):
Now, so the third holy grail of taboos in American politics.
You have socialism of Islam, and then you have Palestine,
and you are really going to the trifecta. Let's go, ready,
let's go tell me why is Palestine a part of
your politics?

Speaker 8 (27:23):
When you grow up as someone, especially in the Third World,
you have a very different understanding of the palace and struggle.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Now, what's interesting about this particular thing is that his
mother is a world class world famous Academy Award nominated
Bollywood director worth tens of millions of dollars. His father
is a shared professor, meaning he has tenure at Columbia University,

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and he's sitting here eating rice with his hands, talking
about growing.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Up in his third world country. You really get a
handle on things.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
You really get a perspective for this Palestinian situation when
you grew up in grinding poverty like I did. He
went to a private school that was sixty thousand dollars
a year, and not a single person on the left
is accusing him of cultural appropriation.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
He's appropriating poverty.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
He's doing the thing where rich people want to make
you think they're not rich. Kind of like remember when
Vanilla Ice came out and we were supposed to believe.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
He was like some gang banger white guy when it.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
Turns out he's like a preppy kid from Fort Lauderdale.
Same thing, only this guy wants to be the mayor
of New York. When we get back, I'm going to
tell you some of the stuff on his platform, and
I would fully expect this to be on the platform
of a candidate for the mayor of Denver in the
next election cycle. If it works in New York, why
wouldn't it work here? And if it does, holy crap,

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are we screwed the Democratic nominee for mayor of New
York once again? Why are we talking about this because
we don't live in New York. I have come to
believe that left wingers, and I have no proof of this.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
This is merely speculative.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
To be clear, the left leaners in this state, Colorado,
are hell bent on out left winging every other state
in the Union. We've now beaten California in many areas,
and we're beating New York in many areas. And this
whatever crap happens in New York City, it's going to
come here. Trust me, someone's going to run on a

(29:30):
very similar platform. His platform is an absolute disaster. I
mean absolute disaster. Oh dag namit listen to this. He
wants city run grocery stores. Yeah, he wants that. My
favorite thing that he's decided that he wants to do

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right now is he wants.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
To tax.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
People who live in quote and this is a quote,
and wider neighborhoods more money. He wants to change the
way property taxes are collected. Now it doesn't matter that
already property taxes are paid at a much different level
because property values are much different. So if you have
a house that's worth a million dollars, you're going to

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pay more in property taxes than someone who has a
house that's worth five hundred thousand dollars. And they're going
to pay more in taxes than someone that has a
house it's worth one hundred thousand dollars. That's not good enough,
So on Mumdanni has said he wants to raise taxes
on brownstones and co ops in neighborhoods like Park Slope

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and the Upper west Side, not based on need, but
based on racial and political targeting.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
He hides this.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Under the guise of equity while pushing for a massive
redistribution scheme dressed up in pseudo progressive language, and he
wants to abolish five eighty one protections. Those would jack
up taxes on hundreds of thousands of co op and
condo owners, especially retirees and working families, under the lie
that they're.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Treated like rentals. He he is.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
This guy is an absolute nightmare and he will run
New York City into the ground so fast.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Talk about well flight.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
This guy wants to drive everybody out of New York City.
This seems to be his goal, and yet he made
it through the primary. Now, part of the problem is
that the primary has about thirty percent turnout. Thirty percent
of the people in a city where you essentially have
one party rule, including Denver, are going to decide who
the do the winners and losers are in the primary.

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And that's what happened here. And it doesn't help that
Andrew Cuomo, the washed up son of an icon, accused
of sexual harassment so many times that no women that
I know in New York and I don't know a bunch,
but I know more than a handful, none of them
would vote for him. And the Democratic Party once again
has given us a garbage candidate. Now, the only thing

(32:01):
I can hope here is that the Democratic Party will
use their regular machinations to somehow get him out of
the race and just insert a different candidate there who's
not quite so crazy anyway. Like I said, normally I

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wouldn't worry about this. Normally I would be like, you
know what, it's fine. But the real problem that we
have here is that it increasingly seems to me that
the Democratic Party is being taken over by actual socialists.
Somehow the Joe McCarthy scare might have been right. Maybe

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they have been communists just bubbling under the surface for
all these years, and now they see their opening with
people like AOC who are too dumb to understand economics
and who have never really lived under oppression. Their luxury
belief that somehow this is gonna work because they're in charge.
I mean, disc was out come on people. We will see,

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we will see. Mandy hate your show. I should be
shopping at the grocery store. A great interview with William Shatner.
Thanks see I don't think you meant that first part.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
This texter said.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Bloomberg and Giuliani were both successful Republicans in New York
along with Governor Battaki. They were reasonable and moderate and
well loved, unlike the new Republicans of today, who are
largely despicable to most New Yorkers. That's not accurate in
the sense that Bloomberg was a Democrat until right before
he ran for governor, because he was running to grab

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the coattails of Rudy Giuliani, who had done so much
to clean up the city that he was beloved at
that point. People don't remember that beloved back then. And
so Michael Bloomberg became a Republican for a hot minute.
He got elected in two thousand and two. In two
thousand and seven he changed his party to unaffiliated, and
then he went back to being a Democrat officially after

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he left office. He was never a Republican. It was
a Republican because it suited his needs. When we get
back Denver Public schools, remember I was telling you about
their scheme they're using to they sell school buildings and
facilities to this other fake company that they've created, and
they quote leased them back at greatly inflated rates. Wait

(34:23):
till you hear the latest thing that are arguing about
this bit of nonsense.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
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Speaker 2 (34:32):
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Speaker 1 (34:35):
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Speaker 3 (34:44):
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Speaker 5 (34:54):
Welcome to the second hour of the show. I'm your host,
Mandy Connell. That guy over there is Anthony Rodriguez.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
You can call him a.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Thank you, and we'll take you right up until three
o'clock when the guys will take over in the afternoon.
I have something scandalous to say. I don't really think
our governor is gay. And here's why.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
He posted a video of himself at the Pride celebration whatever,
and the outfit he has on is so bad. And
I'm no fashion plate.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
I don't sit here.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
I normally don't talk about but you know, one thing,
I know even my gay friends who are not feminine
gay guys who are bearish, for lack of a better
way to put it, you know, super masculine gay guys,
and yes they do exist, even they have some kind
of fashion sense, and our governor has got none, zero

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boop kiss. So I'm just questioning maybe he's just maybe
he's just identifying as gay for you know, because he
thought it would help him in the political arena.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
But I they're actually the real reason.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
I'm telling you this because I had a video on
the on X today. I'll put it on the blog
tomorrow so you can see it if you really want
to know when our governor Jared Polis really starts running
for president, wait for him to go on a diet
and start working out.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
And again, I'm not poking.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Fun at him, but he's he's definitely got some pounds
around his center. And you know, that's the thing that
people do right before they run for president. They become
the best visible version of themselves. So if he's if
he you start noticing that he's taking off some weight
and he's looking you know, a little more toned, we'll know,
we'll know that the campaign has begun in earnest. But someone, please,

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there's got to be someone close to the governor who
can step in here. I mean, maybe someone needs to
go and goranimal up his wardrobe, right, like, take him
and say, okay, now this shirt only goes with these pants, okay,
and this shirt can go with blue green or you know,
or khaki or whatever.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
It's not good, guys, it's not good. And again, I'm
no fashion plate. I'm just saying there's a lot going
on there. Okay, let's talk about Denver Public Schools for
a moment. And this is a little bit dense. We
talked about it when it first came out, but it
just got even more dense. So Denver Public Schools created

(37:37):
this fun little we don't know what it is, whether
it's a private entity or a public entity, and I'll
explain why we don't know in just a moment.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
It's called the.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Denver School Facilities Leasing Corporation. And what the Denver School
Facilities Leasing Corporation does is the school district sells actual
school buildings too the Denver School Facilities Leaseing Corporation for
like ten dollars or whatever. I mean, like a crazy
low price that no one else could ever buy these

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buildings for. They sell them, and then they pay the
Denver School Facilities Leaseing Corporation rent on the buildings that
Denver Public Schools just sold to another entity that is
either public or private. And I says either public or private,

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because Denver Public Schools is now trying to tell us
it's both or it's neither. It's the Schrodinger Cat of
leasing situations. That is a very high level joke, okay,
And if you didn't get it, it's okay. And I
can't even recommend you go look up Schrodinger's Cat because
it'll send you down a rabbit hole that maybe you're

(38:48):
not ready for.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
But that was a very high level joke I just made.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
So if the Denver School Facilities Leaseing Corporation is deemed
a public entity, then that means that it is subject
to Colorado's open records and public meetings laws, and that's
kind of a big deal because they haven't been following
any of that. DPS has denied a public information request
for documents on the corporation's possession and have said that

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they recognize the Denver Schools Denver Public excuse me, Denver
School Facility Leasing Corporation as a private entity, and therefore.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
They use that.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
To deny core requests and things of that nature. But
now there's a lawsuit and Denver Public Schools is trying
to argue both sides that they are both public and
they are both private. Now, if the leasing and this
is from Denver Gazette, if the leasing entity is indeed

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an instrumentality of DPS, the stakes go way beyond just
this case. Such a designation would effectively undercut the district's
own rationale for bypassing the constitutional requirement for voter approval,
an implicit admission that the nonprofit has functioned as a
workaround all along, which it absolutely has. So now there's

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several advocacy groups now suing Denver Public Schools over this,
and one of the attorneys for the people suing the
Denver Public Schools said they said the quiet part out loud,
and they're arguing that the leasing agreements violate the state constitution.
The constitutional ban against acquiring debt without voter approval also

(40:44):
includes secure debt, such as public buildings as collateral. This
is going to be super interesting to watch, and I
don't know if I did a very good job explaining this,
But the real issue is that instead of having buildings
the Denver Public School owns, which they can then say
to bond you know buyers, hey, we've got all of
these hard assets that you can you know, use as

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collateral to therefore get a lower bond rate because then.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
The bond itself is less risky.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
But instead they're selling off those assets without asking anybody,
and they're selling them to another company that is either
under their control or it's not. It's a shell game.
It's a money shell game that they're playing. I feel
like if this were, like, you know, a publicly traded
company that was doing this kind of stuff, somehow they
would get in trouble for it. But because it's a

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government organization doing it, it's we're supposed to go, oh,
this is perfectly fine. This is how the Denver Gazette
explains the whole thing. The district transfers ownership of dozens
of schools to the nonprofit for a nominal price like
ten dollars. Leasing corporation then uses the school buildings as
collateral to raise capital from investors through a financial instrument

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called certificates of participation or cops. The school district uses
the raised money to fund various projects and then repay
the debt through annual lease payments through the nonprofit organization.
I mean, you, guys, this is this is shady. This

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is really shady, and doing this has allowed DPS to
accumulate debt that is about a billion.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Dollars without asking the voters.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
There hasn't been a single ballot measure put on the
ballot about this.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Now.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
The problem is is that this workaround, as they call
it generously in the Denver gas heat, I would use
a different way a phrase for it. It's now colliding
with the Colorado Governmental Immunity Act. The CGIA limits when
government entities such as cities and school districts can be sued,
generally shielding them from tort claims except in cases involving

(42:59):
unsaved public priperty or negligence by government employees and now DPS.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
DPS is arguing.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
That this lawsuit against the DSFLC is entitled to that
kind of immunity as an instrumentality of Denver Public Schools, even.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Though they've used the fact they say it's not as
a reason not to fulfill CORRA requests.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
I mean, I gotta tell you, guys, I don't know
if they just know that because.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
No one in power isn't a Democrat, that they just.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Assume that they can continue getting away with this and
no one's going to call them on it. I guess
this is why these organizations felt the need to sue.
So it's this is they've really boxed themselves into a corner.
On May twenty seventh of this year, the Denver Gazette
requested through Quorra copies of all the cops. Now, those

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are the certificates of participation that are sold to investors
by this leasing corporation, and the Denver Gazette said, we
want to see all the cops issued by leasing corporation
since two thousand and eight. The same day, a DPS's
CORP officer, Stacy Wheeler, denied the report, saying there were
no responsive records because the district is not the custodian

(44:26):
of the records. So they're trying to argue both sides
of the issue, and I just don't think this is
going to go well at all. But who ooh, I mean,
if anyone is going to hold them accountable, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
It's crazy though.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
I mean, it's just the sort of shenanigans that go
on is just it's insane. Hi, Mandy alan Berg pretended
to be gay one day?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
To what point? Texturing?

Speaker 5 (45:02):
I mean that genuinely, What was the point? Because Alan
rarely did anything without a point. I've heard from many people,
including his longtime producer Susan Ryman, who I consider a friend.
What was the point of him pretending why he was gay?
Text me back about that, Hi, Mandy, I think the
Republican Party should send a specsoneer to take care of

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Polis and his wardrobe physike issues. No, no, no, he's
on his own. And what is a spectiononeer?

Speaker 3 (45:29):
What is that? What is that word? Mandy?

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Polis didn't want people to know he was gay when
he ran doesn't sound like a political ruse to me.
As for the fashion failure, not all rich people are greedy.
What does one have to do with the other. You
don't have to spend a lot of money. You were
talking to a long time thrift shopper. Do you ever
do any thrift shopping a rod? Did you have that
period in your life where you were so broke you

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just went through thrift stores.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Well, now, hold on, you don't have to just be
broke to do it. It's always fine.

Speaker 7 (45:59):
We do it all the time, Okay, good brand new
clothing very often for like four dollars.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
I prefer the stuff that is totally weird in retro
when I go thrift shopping, because I know it was
the last time you went thrifting about a month and
a half ago.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
You aren't going to the right places. That is not
the good kind of thrifting anymore. Well, it depends on
what you're after.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Like the thrift stores in Douglas County. I hate to
say this because they're going to be inundated freaking amazing.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
They're so good. But I'm not going to tell you
which ones I go to, nor will I.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
They are secrets, yep, and we don't want them to
get too busy. Yeah, I mean, we like to be
just enough busy to stay open, but not too busy
where the time is no longer.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
But you can be extremely fashionable shopping at a thrift store.
I wear like not like this season, but who cares.
But you can look really good shopping at a thrift store.
You don't have to have a lot of money or
spend a lot of money. I find fashion to be
one of those things. This is one of those things
in life that I've struggled with my entire life.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
I don't understand it.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
I don't understand why it's so important to so many people.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
And I'm not mad at you.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
If it is, like if you're a clothes horse and
you love clothes and you love fashion and you always
know what's in vogue and you all that stuff. I mean,
I'm not mad at you. I'm just saying I've never
personally understood it. And I think I've mentioned this before.
When I was in seventh grade, I read that Albert
Einstein had seven pairs of the same outfit, right, so

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we had like a shirt, a cardigan, a pair of khakis,
like socks underwear. He had seven of those and they
were all identical, so he'd never had to expand any
energy figuring out what's put on when he was going
to do his work. He was just he did not
want to expend any brain power doing that. And I

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in seventh grade. Me, let's just say, seventh grade was
a challenging year for me, the transition from Catholic school
to public school with like giant coke bottle glasses in
an era where bullying was not discouraged, it was just
it was there to toughen you up.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
It was a rough year for me.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
And I went to my mom and I said, Mom,
Albert Einstein did this thing where he had seven pairs
of the exact same clothes and then he never had
to think about what to wear at school again. And
I'd like to do that. And she said to me, well,
you can do that, but you're definitely going to be
the weirdest kid in school. And I thought, okay, yeah,
yeah it is. Now you are trendy and you are cool.

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What if you wear nothing but threat store. Oh well,
well then I've been trendy and cool since I was
in college because I didn't have any money in college.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I but gosh, I still look back so fondly with
some of my thrift store findes.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
I got a tuxedo, a man's tuxedo that was made
in nineteen thirty eight. I know because it was bespoke
and it was handstitched with a guy's name and the
address of the tailor and the year.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
Well, your organized definition of what makes a good find
is totally different.

Speaker 9 (48:55):
For me.

Speaker 7 (48:56):
It's hey, you see this brand new spanking button down
that looks like it could be fifty sixty dollars.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, four dollars.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
First store, because the thrift stores we go to it's
about more of Amazon returns or brand new clothes that
they get somewhere else. Most of it's not even worn before.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I don't care about that. I mean, I clean it all.
We still to wear it, yes, but you know brand new.
I'm a big fan.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
And now I'm teaching my daughter how to thrift shop.
You know, like touch the fabrics as you're going through
really quick, to see what the good fabrics are and
what the bad fabrics you skip them. Mandy allen Burg's
point was that he didn't like not being able to
use gay as in Happy Anymore silly but very funny show.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
See I knew there was a point there.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
My wife dresses in nothing but fancy brand name bought
at Doug Coe's Goodwill. Exactly my point, exactly my point.
And now I'm teaching my daughter how to do consignment.
Oh yeah, consignment is fantastic, Mandy. This pull to the
left in Colorado government is going to take everyone down
on the drain with them. I moved here in nineteen

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seventy nine, worked at Rocky Flats for twenty six years.
Sadly I have to leave a state I love. I
wish I could argue the opposite, Texter, because this state
is an amazing state. But watching the speed with which
single party rule has absolutely gutted so much about this
state that I loved. We've replaced rugged individualism with able

(50:27):
bodied people with no children being on medicaids so they
can pursue their dreams as an influencer or whatever.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
We've replaced, you know, the kind of spirit of the West,
with greed and envy based legislation designed to go after
the rich people and let the poor people further.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Off the hook. I mean, it's.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Don't even get me started on law and order and
crime and all of that stuff. I mean, it's just
it's been devastating and let me just say this just
to be clear. I believe single party rule in any
state is bad because it inevitably leads to abuse by
whatever party is in power, whether it's Democrats or Republicans.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
The Republican Party in.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
Florida right now is as divided as the Republican Party
here in Colorado. The difference is they control every lever
of government in Florida, every single one of them is
controlled by Republicans. And yet the infighting and backbiting in
the Republican.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Party in Florida is just as bad as the.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
Infighting between what I've taken a calling of the normies
and the wackos. You know, there's a lot of people
in Colorado, especially in the Republican Party, that are and
there's a lot of people on the left that follow
in this exact same category on the other end of
the spectrum, and that is they are so angry all

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the time, and that no matter what happens, there's a
reason that he doesn't have anything to do with perhaps
the way that they approached the situation, right I mean,
it's as dumb as George Steele saying that Chinese communists
funded the fight against Home rule in Douglas County, Florida.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he said it because

(52:16):
I needed a belly laugh of that proportion. But I
just think single party rule is bad.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Now.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Would I prefer my party be mostly in charge? Yeah,
I'm not gonna lie. If it's two three split, I
want somebody that's closer to my ideology in charge. But
if this big beautiful bill and I realize we're covering
a lot of stuff here, but it's all connected in
a bigger sense, it's a big, beautiful bill passes, and
it probably is going to because, as Ross said earlier

(52:46):
on his show, and rightly so, the only thing worse
than this bill is not passing this bill. But there's
no reason for me to change my party affiliation back
to the Republican Party. I switched out of the party
when Dave Williams became president of the party. I finally
did complete that. I am now a registered, unaffiliated voter.

(53:07):
But here are the things that are important to me
and why I became a Republican in the first place.
I'm one of those lunatics who really believes that everything
else we talk about in this country, everything we argue
about generous welfare benefits, making sure that social security is sound,
you know, making sure the right people can get out of.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Medicaid if they need help.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
All of these things, tax policy, abortion, healthcare, all of it,
none of it matters as much as making sure that
we don't spend ourselves into oblivion, because if we spend
ourselves into oblivion, none of those other things are going
to get done. And back a long long time ago,
it feels like forever ago. Now, the Republican Party at

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least talked a good game about fiscal responsibility. They don't
even bother anymore because no one cares. We talk about
the debt and how big it is and how it's
just getting bigger and bigger, and how much we're paying
an interest that is squeezing out all other spending, and
we have these cowards in the House in the Senate,
absolute cowards, don't understand. Here's what I think would happen

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if the Republican Party showed some real will and decided
to go after spending in an aggressive way. The first
thing that would happen is the bond market would take notice,
because if we don't look like we're serious, who's going
to keep buying our debt. When do we keep spending
like drunken sailors, although that at this point that's just

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an insult to drunken sailors. If they just cut spending,
the bond market goes down, that means mortgage rates are
going down. That means the housing market can finally unlock
and people start moving and buying, and they start doing
things like fixing up their new homes they just moved into.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
That sets off a chain of events.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
Housing is such a massive cornerstone of our and these
idiots in Washington, DC don't understand that the more they
keep spending, the more they keep that market locked up.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
So I don't know, Mandy, when it has.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
This Friday describes Jink's reaction when you reunited.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
After your trip.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Well, imagine a one hundred and fifty five pound toddler
coming at you. Was a little bit frightening. I'm not
gonna lie, Mandy. Did you just say work spouse?

Speaker 6 (55:27):
Lol?

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Like the person someone has an affair with a run
If you are you familiar with the work spouse concept,
I mean, yeah, what.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Is it to you? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
I mean it's weird. First of all, I don't I
don't think people my age use it. I've heard it
with the older them. You know what, the workplace has
changed so much. It really has, and I'm not necessarily
for the better in my view, In some ways for
the better.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Yeah, but your work spouse is someone mostly of the
opposite sex. It was like your buddy at work. And
the reason I'm asking this is because I was replying
to that text message directly, and then in it I said,
there's no sex at all in between work spouses, and
the thought of that should repel you a little bit,
like you like, you know, sex with your your sister

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or something. Then I thought to myself, am I making
an assumption? Chuck's work spouse was his best man at
our wedding, so I'm very comfortable with the concept of
the of the work spouse. But then I have to
ask this question, guys, is it the same for you?
Because when I've had a work spouse at work, the

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thought of like having any kind of romantic anything was like,
well no, But man, do you feel the same way
about your work spouse? And I guess it would depend
on how much your work spouse nags you at work? Right,
I don't know, call me old fashioned, but married people
don't need to be friends with the opposite sex. That's

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a red flag. Like a married person with Snapchat. I
would say this. I have friends of the opposite sex,
most of whom.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
I've had for a very long time.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
And Chuck is perfectly okay with me hanging out with
people of the opposite sex, and I am him as well,
But neither of us do it that often, right, Like
I will rarely have coffee or whatever with one of
my male friends just to catch up see how things
are going. And then occasionally Chuck will have lunch or

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something with one of his female friends. But overall we
kind of do everything together, and I think that's just
the natural way things can happen. But I have friends
that their relationship is different, and you know, they both
have friends of the opposite gender that they see on
a regular basis, not like one person. But as I've
said before, I try not to judge anybody else's relationships.

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And if you are truly worried about your spouse having
a friend of the opposite gender, put all that energy
into making sure that your marriage is rock solid, you know,
as much as you can. Unfortunately, what it comes down
to is if someone's gonna cheat, they're gonna cheat no

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matter what you do. And I don't know. I feel
very Chuck and I are very on the same page
with this. It's like, you know, because I don't wear
a wedding ring because I don't like having stuff on
my hands. I know, another weird thing about your host.
But I told Chuck that when he got me my
beautiful engagement ring, which I still have and I do
wear on occasion, I just don't wear it that often.

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He said, well, let's go get the wedding band to
go with it, and I'm like, can't we just make
this the whole kit and caboodle, Like I don't need
another ring, then I'm probably not gonna wear that often.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
And we both feel the same way.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
It's like, if you need a ring to remind you
you're married, we have bigger problems than either of us
could possibly imagine. You have to trust your spouse, and
you know that's just it has to be that way,
and if you don't, then fix the underlying problems in
your marriage first. But if you still don't trust your spouse,
then you're just with someone that is not trustworthy most

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of the time. And that's just sad, Mandy. It's like
when Harry met Sally. Sex is always on the back burner.
I don't, Colleye, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
This.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Texter said, it's kind of an office wife or spouse
that you always do lunch with or whatever. I've known
some people who have a work spouse, typically or the
opposite sex, and have known some to have friends with benefits. Well,
that's not what I'm talking about, Mandy. My assistant has
worked with me for twenty eight years, platonic and totally
my work wife.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Mandy, workwife husband had one and he fell in love
with her. Now that again, is kind of the other
side of the coin.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
No, isn't it? Call me who already read that one? Mandy.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
With all due respective a man is trying to be
a woman's friend, then in the back of their mind,
the man would always bang that female friend. I'm trying
to think of my male friends that I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I don't know if I could give a good answer
to that, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
I have Snapchat because it's a way of getting proof
of life from my kids.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
I don't find the snapchat thing if you have kids,
especially I have Snapchat. I just have no idea how
to use it and don't care to learn. Really, I
just I don't. The only reason I have it is
that's what Like my oldest son sends pictures me a
Snapchat and they're the worst quality, Mandy, Like Mike Pence,
it's inappropriate to have a work spouse of the opposite sex,

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and this, you know what if that's where you are,
and that is what makes your marriage work and is happy,
and you, guys love that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I love that for you. It does certainly.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Prevent situations from arising that could get out of hand.
And I have read and I have you know, had
friends who have gone through very similar things. I read
this one time a long time ago, and it stuck
with me, and now I've been seeing it pop up again.
Because any pop psychology that you see is it's just
a rehash of earlier pop psychology with repackaging.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Okay, that's all it is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
And the pop psychology is that men often cheat, Not
mean men often cheat, but the men that do cheat
often cheat because it is convenient and they can get
away with it, like a one off, you know, kind
of situation you're on a work trip whatever, and that
that will lead more men. It's a crime of opportunity

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if you will, whereas women will cheat if they are
unhappy because they are searching for a deeper connection or
whatever it is. And I always think to myself, like,
if you're in the business in the middle of having
an affair.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
It has to be exhausting.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
It has to be exhausting to negotiate what you told
whom who you told them when.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Covering your track. I mean, it just has to be exhausting.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
And I think to myself, what if you clowd that
back into your marriage. Now it's impossible sometimes because one
person wants to work on it, and if the other
person doesn't, you cannot fix some marriage by yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
I do to that one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
But it's it's fascinating to me that people will step
outside their marriage because at that moment they're bored, or
that moment they're angry, or that moment.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
And it's one time frame in a very long marriage.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
And if you talk to people who've been married for
fifty years or sixty years, they will.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Tell you, for the most part that there.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Were times in their marriage that they did not like
their spouse, but instead of running around and investing in
something else, they got through it. I mean, there are
very few I think perfect marriages, and I don't even
know what that would be. Hi, Mandy, it's my experience
that women are more promiscuous than men, and clearly mean that.

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I will just tell you that my experience has been
the opposite, and then we're even. Men are not friends
with women. They are waiting for the opportunity. Now, there
might be some truth to that, because when I met Chuck,
I was married, and he'll be honest, he waited out
my marriage.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
He waited, he was ready, and as soon as that
divorce was final, he.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
Was like, let's go, and that was it. Mandy, I'm
married with Snapchat. My wife and I broke our streak
unintentionally and restarted it on our wedding day. We're happily
at nearly a two thousand days streak. We use it
for pictures that we don't need to keep forever, like
cat pictures or a video of a funny thing a
squirrel does or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Glad you're back there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
My wife says, I don't need a ring. Has I
have married across my forehead, what.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I have married. I don't know what that means.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Mandy, like Billy Crystal said, women need a reason, men
need a place.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Yes, exactly. Pop culture just recycled.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
Mandy had a workwife for years, never once considered doing
anything physical. I may be the exception, but it's not
all men. I know it's not all men, because I've
had work spouses for a long time and it's just fine.
It is possible for men and women to be friends
without sex. It's called marriage.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
Text look at you from our Common Spirit health text line.
I literally spit out my drink in the car Friday
when you read the text about cottage cheese giving the
texture the trots that that's I've just done it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Now what the trots? You know what that means? I
really don't. You got a trot to the restroom? Oh boy, yeah,
oh boy? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:27):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
Bad news for Donald Trump. There's now a fatoah calling
for his death. And as much as I'd like to
make light of this and make some kind of snorky joke,
because uh, you know, sometimes I make inappropriate jokes about
serious things. After what happened to Salmon Rushti, I no
longer joke about the fatoa and if you don't know
what I'm talking about after writing The Satanic is it

(01:04:52):
the Satanic Versus?

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
What was the name of that book?

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
I can't remember. I think the Satanic Versus, I can't remember.
A fatoa was issued for him, and like what, twenty
years later some guy hops up on stage and stabs
him and nearly kills him. I linked to a story
in hotair dot com and they linked to a story
from the Washington Post. Now this is super interesting to

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me because the Steamboat Institute many years ago had Mike
Pompeo come and speak at the Freedom Conference, maybe three
four years ago maybe, so imagine my excitement when I
read this Aron nearly succeeded and orchestrating an assassination of
former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at a European hotel

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in twenty twenty two, when then candidate Donald Trump and
his campaign were told by intelligence officials last September that
the longtime USFO had recruited hitmen who were active at
the time on American soil. According to a forthcoming book
about the twenty twenty four presidential campaign, Ranian hitmen tried
to assassinate US officials at least three times in the

(01:06:03):
three years preceding Trump's election as his campaign.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
For president ramped up.

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
Two of those attempts have been widely reported, but the
incident involving Pompeo in Paris has not been previously disclosed.
Also new is the account of the book that US
intelligence officials told Trump's team in September of last year
that Iron had recruited hit teams that remained active inside
the country. In twenty twenty two, Iranians learned of the

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Paris hotel where Pompey was staying and tried to assassinate him.
He narrowly escaped, but it provides no other details. Now
I'm going to bring it back to the Steamboat Institute,
and I think this might have been in twenty twenty two.
Mike Pompeo is the guest of honor, the keynote speaker,

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and the final dinner is outside. Yes, it was twenty
twenty two because it was COVID. That was the first
year they did it in Beaver Creek. And it's so good,
you guys. The Freedom Conference is coming up again in August.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Is so good.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
But in twenty twenty two. Mike Pompei is a keynote speaker.
Dinner is outside the resort there. It's gorgeous, absolutely stunning,
but talk about a million places where a sniper could hide,
right because it's on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
The side of a mountain.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
And I found out much later, not at the event itself,
but I found out that in all of the brush
to the hillside behind Mike Pompeo was apparently covered with
guys in gilli.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Suits and other guys, you know, kind.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Of in camouflage, making sure that Mike Pompeo was not
going to be assassinated. And I was like, oh, that
might have been nice to know as we're sitting in
the audience right in front of him. Oh satanic versus Yes,
salmon rushie, That's what I said. So what is the
most delicious food you ate in Japan or South Korea?

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
That is I will say.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
On the last day in Tokyo, we were in this
incredible fish mark. It used to be the main fish
market where they would haggle over the prices of these
giant tuna, but now the wholesale part has kind of
moved to a different, more modern fish market, and this
fish market is mostly about tourism, right, and tourists and
people like us. But they we were walking into the

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market and this truck is kind of parked there, and
this guy gets this giant tuna out of the back
of the truck and he brings it over to this stand.
And we kept going. We were walking around and you know,
doing other stuff. But we came back and we stopped
at that same stand to get some some sushi, some nigiri,
just you know, fish on rice, and we order it

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and we order the fatty tuna and the guy turns
around and cuts it off that fish, and then, you know,
just made it so beautiful and hands over the tray
that fish. That sushi. It just dissolved in your mouth.
It was so good. Think about whatever the best sushi

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you ever had in Denver, it was way better than that,
because that sushi was either frozen or it's at least
forty eight to seventy two hours old to get it
here if they fly it here right from wherever it
was caught. This I'm pretty sure came off the boat
that morning, came to the market that afternoon, and was
on our plate in very short order.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
And oh it was delicious, but.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
We had some really cool stuff there, and now I'm
trying to think of it all. I told a friend
of mine, I'm going to sit down and I'm going
to do maybe a column or blog post about my
trip to Japan, because so many people have reached out
and said, we really want to go to Japan. What
do we have to see? And that way I can
just direct people. So I'll probably work on that over
the next few days, maybe over the long weekend for

(01:09:46):
the holiday.

Speaker 7 (01:09:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
You'll have to wait and see. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
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rod right over there. A couple things.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Congratulations to mister and missus Bezos. I don't know how
they managed to squeak in that wedding for just fifty
million dollars. Anthony Gosh, I mean they must really. They
probably cut some.

Speaker 7 (01:10:40):
Coupons maybe out of the cardboard cutouts of him and
his wife that were all around.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Oh yeah, of course this is what kills me.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
Did you see the people going to their quote pajama
party the night after the wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
So they had a pre wedding.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
Party, then they had the wedding, and then they had
a post wedding party that was a pajama party, and
all of these celebrities like Kim Kardashian rolled up. And
you know what, I both love and hate Kim Kardashian
hates too strong word. I both love and judge Kim Kardashian.
On the one hand, she's an incredible business woman. It

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was accomplished a lot, and coming from the sex tape origins,
she has really done something with herself big time. But
then she shows up looking like she's straight out of
a whorehouse for this thing. And I'm not exaggerating. It
was just it was again, people didn't get the theme,
they didn't get the memo.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Other people did not.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
By the way, So Congress, the bezos live long and
prosper and all that stuff. Let's talk about the big
beautiful bill for a moment. I don't even want to
spend a lot of time on it because of two reasons.
Number one, I think it is a fate acomplete. There's
no point in engaging on this bill because in Raw

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said it earlier, and he's absolutely correct. The only thing
worse than this giant crap sandwich of a bill is
not passing the giant crap sandwich of a bill.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
I posted today a column on Fox News that's putting
a little shine on things. Oh yeah, trying to put
a little shine on things. It's written by Kelly Loffler.
Kelly Loffler was the former administrator of the US Small
Business Administration, also a former US Senator from Georgia, and

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she really puts the positive spin on this in this column.
But unfortunately for me, I have most of my adult
life been a fiscal hawk.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Meaning that for me nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
Really matters as much as debt and deficit and what
that will eventually do to this country because no empire
before us, and that we're not an empire in the
traditional sense that we're running around trying to build an
empire and subjugate other people to our will, not directly anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Uh, every empire's.

Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
Fallen because of the same things, and they're the same
things we're doing right now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
What does this bill not do?

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
If you want to know what it doesn't do, you
can always go to one mister Representative, Thomas Massey, and
he said this on Twitter today, and he's right about
every single one of them. You were promised the Big
Beautiful Bill would do these things, but it does not
prohibit welfare for illegal aliens, stop funding sex changes for

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kids and registration of suppressors, defund planned parative for ten years,
implement the Rains Act, or reduce the deficit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
And he's absolutely right now.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
Interestingly, the markets have responded like gangbusters. The NASDAC and
S and P closed at record levels today. But guys,
we've seen this song before. We know exactly how it ends.
How do we pay for deficit spending if no one
will buy our bonds? We have two ways to pay
for deficit spending. Really, The first is which to sell

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bonds for our debt. We say, you know what, we know,
we're spending two trillion dollars more than we should per year,
but we're good for it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Or I should say.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
We're good for it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
Yeah, you guys just keep buying that. It'd be great.
And then when the debtors start to go. You know,
I don't think they're serious about that. I'm pretty sure
there's going to be a problem at some point in
the future. So we're going to need a little bit
more enticement to buy your debt. And then the bond
market rates go up. And by the way, when bond

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market rates go up, then mortgage rates go up. Now,
bond rates fell today. We're in a period of exuberance
because everyone collectively has decided that we are somehow going
to the immune to the exact same things that we're
doing that brought other empires down before us, because somehow

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we're special. It's called a normalcy bias, and it's significant,
and it's happening right now. But if you think that
this bill is going to do anything to the debt
and the deficit, it's just not going to. God only
knows how it looks when it comes out of the Senate.
I have no idea, But what I do know is this,

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if you have any hope that the Republican Party or
any politician in DC is serious about getting our deficit,
forget the debt right. Everybody wants to talk about the debt.
I don't want to talk about that. I just want
us to balance the budget, and we're two trillion dollars
off that per year with this plan, two trillion dollars a.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Year off that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
We can't do anything about the debt until we do
something about that. Now here's the kicker. I'm in favor
of keeping all of the tax cuts, and not only
because I benefit, but because overwhelmingly everyone in this listening
audience benefits. Is well, because that tax bill benefited everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
And if you don't believe me, just Google. Use the
Google to say.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
Tax rates before and after the trap Trump tax cuts.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
You might be surprised. You might be very surprised.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
So it's really challenging for me to get excited about this,
but it did make something a lot easier. And I
said this earlier in the show. I left the Republican
Party because I didn't like the Colorado leadership. But the
leadership has changed, and I actually although we'll see what
happens with the Vice Cheer situation, I'm hopeful that this
Republican Party in Colorado can focus on getting Republicans elected.

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But there's no way I want to put an R
behind my name when my biggest issue for the last
twenty years that I've had my own show has been
the debt, the deficit, deficit spending, and to see the
political party who kept telling me that they were the
party a fiscal responsibility just end the charade in such

(01:17:04):
an aggressive fashion. Why would I go back? Why would
anyone who cares about spending go back or stay so? Anyway, Mandy,
you can't shine a turd correct texture, Mandy Kim K's
outfit looked like trash. She could do so much better

(01:17:27):
and look classy. But okay, let me just say this.
Kim Kardashian is new money. Lauren Bezos is new money.
Old money dresses much differently. You want to see how
old money dresses go, look and see what Ivanka Trump
went to that wedding. She looked magnificent the entire time.
She is married to old money and dresses that way.

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It's amazing. First of all, I didn't even know that
Lauren Bezos was friends with the character. Whatever, it's fine,
it's fine, Kim Kaye's wait, it wasn't a pajama party.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
That was a freak off. Oh no, nothing would be
that tacky. How would ko what?

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
How would KOA even report that obvious live about the
IDF shouting at civilians.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
I didn't hear the report. I don't know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
Ross's wife said it best about the wedding. It was
just a celebrity playdate. Ah, that's cute and accurate. You
ever been told you were a cool?

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Anthony? You ever sad?

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
You are kind of cool? Though, I mean, you are
kind of a cool guy. Not in every situation. Sometimes
you're a complete dork, but just in general. Ish, I've
never thought I was cool. Now I've been told by
people that they think I'm cool, and I find that fascinating,
and I always try to ask them why, Like, what
in the world would make you think that? Well, now

(01:18:55):
I know, although these six specific traits don't necessarily apply
to me. A new study on what makes people cool
in the Journal of Experimental Psychology. It's serving nearly six
thousand participants from twelve countries to kind of do away
with some of those what makes you cool here doesn't

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necessarily make you cool somewhere else?

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Right, Their beliefs about what we're cool.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
We're similar regardless of where the study participants lived in
despite differences in age, income level, or gender.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Listen to this.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
So here are the six traits that cool people have.
They need to be extroverted, not a check for me.
They need to be hedonistic. Also not a check for
me powerful. I mean, I'm doing that thing right now
where I'm making a face and I'm looking around like

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to see if anybody's gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
No, You're powerful. No, okay, not a check for me.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
Adventurous, I am adventurous, open, I'm not quite sure what
that means.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
And autonomous. I am certainly autonomous.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
And I think for me, autonomous means not really caring
what other people think of you. A lot of people
and this is one of those things I probably was guilty.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Of when I was much younger. But I've been a.

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
Pretty independent soul for pretty much my entire life.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
I've never been one to sort of follow the trends.

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
Right, I'm not necessarily going to be one of those
people who's worried about being on, you know, like completely
in fashion that kind of stuff. But I'll take three
out of six. So these are the things that make
people seem cool. It's interesting to me because like in
high school cool do you guys remember who was popular
when you were in high school? What are they now

(01:20:48):
the people that were popular when I was in high school.
It's not like they're living on the streets. Don't take
what I'm about to say for that. But they're certainly
not the most successful people in my graduating class.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
The most successful people in.

Speaker 5 (01:20:59):
My graduating class, or a lot of them, are people
that flew under the radar when we were in high school.
They weren't like the most popular kids in the world.
So when you get cool, I think matters. You don't
want to peak in high school. Nobody wants to peak
in high school. But if you are, then because I
don't think I got cool, I wasn't cool, certainly not
cool when I was in.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
My early radio years.

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
But I feel like because I've made it this far,
maybe that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Gives me a little bit of a cool factor. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
So do you guys think I'm cool? I'm I'm looking
for a little positive affirmation. But if the answer is now,
I can take that too, because ultimately I don't really
care what an internet poll says.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
Have you ever had the opportunity to ask someone in
your past a specific question about your personality and.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Why they either did ask you out, didn't ask what
was it about?

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
I've asked my guy friends because I've always had a
ton of guy friends.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
I've always been a guy's girl all just always.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
From the time I was a kid I used to
be and my ads buddy right, like, I've just been
that way. And I've asked guys that I've been friends
with for a long time, like, why didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
You ever ask me out?

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
And to a guy they were like because I knew
you'd say no, And how did you know? They're like, oh,
I saw you shut down dudes like me all the time.
I was like, I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Who's cooler, Mandy Connell or Randy Cromwell where there's no
doubt about that. I mean, obviously Randy is way cooler.
Why do you think Randy Cromwell hardly ever does the show,
mostly because Randy's busy being cool, unlike me, not powerful.
You did fix ziplining on the road. I am amazing.

(01:22:45):
And I got a text from my friend Elizabeth. She
used to be my friend, then she moved to Florida,
but she said this, Mandy, this is Elizabeth. I'm so excited.
We're going on your Rhine River trip. I've always wanted
to go on a river cruise. More details on that
in a moment. Thank you all you people who just
took to the text line to boost my sagging spirits.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
They weren't really sagging, but they could have been. You
don't know that, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:23:10):
Growing up in a small town in eastern Colorado and
now owning two businesses in that town, it brings me
great joy to your customers say that I was never
the sharpest or the coolest.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
But I was kind to them.

Speaker 5 (01:23:21):
Speaking of that, I have the best video on the
blog today. It is so so good. Got me this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (01:23:31):
And of course it's Steve Hartman on CBS. Steve Hartman
is just I love his reporting. He reports for CBS
Sunday Morning and then they recycle the story on CBS
Evening News. But he just does these kind of you know,
walk of life stories that Charles Carralt used to be
so amazing at. And this story is about a high schooler.

(01:23:55):
She's a graduating senior in a small town. There was
about forty five people in her graduate wedding class. And
though she had been very social when she was very young,
she kind of fell into the social anxiety trap in
middle school and high school and found it very difficult
to maintain her friendships with some of her peers. It's
not like she was angry about it, like they were

(01:24:17):
mean to her. It's just that they didn't really see her.
And to her immense credit, she said, but I didn't
really do much either to try and put myself out there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
What she did do was.

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
Paint individual portraits of all of the people in her
graduating class.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
And she's very talented.

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
And what's fascinating about this story is that the kids
that she gave these paintings to, they were really grateful
and they absolutely loved them. But you could see the
immediate regret that these kids felt because.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
They hadn't done enough, and they hadn't talked to her.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
And though they knew her, because when you're from a
place where you got forty members of your graduating class,
you know everybody, right, they knew her, and each one
of them expressed regret at not being a better friend. Well, again,
to her credit, she's not holding it against anybody, And
there seems to be a general sense that maybe this
is a great lesson in making sure that you see

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the you know, as many people as you can. One
of the greatest moments of my life. And this is
going to sound like hyperbole, but I really mean it.
I went back for high school reunion. I think it
was our ten year class reunion, I think so, and
I had multiple people walk up to me and I
had no idea who they were. Now that's not unusual.

(01:25:41):
I don't remember people that I met, you know, ten
years ago now, but there were people I went to
high school with, and we had a big graduating class
of about four hundred and fifty ish somewhere in that range,
and people would come up to me and say, you
know what, you were always so nice to me in
high school, and it just wanted you to know how
much I really appreciated that because I was kind of

(01:26:01):
a cool kid in high school. I mean I was
involved in everything in school, and you know, I just
was busy in our high school and everybody kind of
knew who I was, I guess, and I found that
to be the greatest compliment that I've ever gotten, was
just people walking up and saying, man, thanks for being
nice to me. And I was like, oh, thank god,
it was nice to you. I don't know, Mandy. For

(01:26:21):
Steve Hartman, it's the other way around. Story first airs
on Friday CBS Evening News than it re airs on
the Sunday Morning Show. Well, that's dumb. They probably have
more viewers on CBS Sunday Morning than they have on
the evening News. Mandy, you're kool aid. That is a
sensitive subject for me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Texter.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
When I was near the end of my pregnancy with
my daughter, and I was ginormous, Oh my god, it
was so big at the end of my pregnancy, and
we had to go to the American Heart Association's Heartball.
We got invited to sit at a table with some
good friends of ours, and you're supposed to wear red
to the Heartball. So I high and low, looked everywhere.

(01:27:01):
Finally found the only red dress that looked good on
an ginormously pregnant woman. And I go to the Heartball
and we have these beautiful pictures taken and I post
them on my Facebook page and here I am, this
giantly pregnant woman in a red dress.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
And my brother posts the response of all responses on.

Speaker 5 (01:27:19):
My Facebook picture, which, by the way, I was feeling,
I look pretty good in considering how pregnant. I was
at the time, and any woman at the end of
pregnancy knows what I'm talking about. And my brother just
responds with, hey, kool aid, I'll let that visual sink in.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Yeah h.

Speaker 5 (01:27:41):
Yeah, so yeah, I'm a little sensitive to the kool
aid comments. I'm debating. You know, we have a fifteen
minutes or so until the end of the show, and
I've got two things rattling around in my head that
I kind of want to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
One of them is about this British rap group.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
Called Bobby Violin, and Bobby Violin just played Glastonbury. This
is a huge, massive, massive, massive festival in the UK,
and as part of his performance, the lead singer of
Bob Violin.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Got the entire crowd.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
They first, they started out with free, Free Palestine, you
know that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
That old diddy.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
But then he took it one step further and he
led the crowd in a chant with death death to
the ivf oh and the crowd ate it up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
They loved it. It could not get enough. Well.

Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
Bob Violin apparently has a twenty ish city tour planned
for the United States of America, and if you bought
tickets for it, you can go ahead and get your
money back, because the State Department has pulled his visa
and said, no, thank you, We're fine. We don't need
another anti American, pro Iranian anybody on United States soil.

(01:29:07):
And of course your typical people on the left are.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Like love about free speech.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
I thought I thought free speech was free speech, yes
for Americans. But see, when you come to our country,
unless you walk across the southern border illegally, you have
to follow those certain rules. And some of those rules
start with not supporting terrorist organizations. And for the first
time in a long time, we have an administration that

(01:29:33):
takes stuff like this kind of seriously call it's crazy
for taking you at your word.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
So now their visas have been denied.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
Now I want to know the other topic that I
have rolling around in my head, and you guys are
gonna pick what we're gonna talk about right now on
the blog today, I have video of the Democratic nominee
to be this next mayor of New York City. He
is the overwhelming favorite because of that. He's sitting in
a park eating food out of a metal container with

(01:30:04):
his hands, and he's eating rice. Okay, he's eating rice
in something else. Now, There are a lot of other
cultures where eating with your hands is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
How how you do things right.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
But that's not how we do things here in the
United States of America, because we have this thing. It's
called the fork and the fork, and it's accompanying.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Silverware, spoon, and knife.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
How generally speaking, relieved us of the responsibility to eat
nasty things with our hands. Now, I'm not saying rice
as nasty as a food. I'm saying picking up rice
and eating it with your hands is kind of nasty.
But again, people on the left will not be defeated
on this issue. They really want this guy to be
elevated and we don't. They don't want us to point

(01:30:49):
out as performative eating with his fingers because this guy
grew up an incredible privilege. His parents are very wealthy
and successful. I mean, come on, it's just it's ridiculous.
He says, his best ideas come from the third world.
Why are they still third world if they're so good.
This is one of the things about socialists that drive

(01:31:09):
me the most crazy, the inferred moral superiority of poverty,
Like if you're poor, they're gonna be like, we should
give them a seat at the table. Well, you know what,
most people are poor because they make bad decisions. Now,
they may make bad decisions for a myriad of reasons, right,
I mean, they may not know any better. That's a

(01:31:30):
real possibility. So I have this question. The people on
the left are now pointing out, well, we eat hamburgers
with our hands, fair point. We eat chicken wings with
our hands, fair point.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Again, So where's the.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
Line between food that we can eat with our hands
that we've agreed on in society and where is it not?
And let me relay a story into the texter who said, Hey, Mandy,
your brother is a funny, funny man. That's not funny, Hey, Mandy,
being a brother of a sister, that kool aid comment
is classic.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Kudos to your bro. You people are hateful, hateful.

Speaker 5 (01:32:11):
Anyway, When I was a flight attendant back in the
early nineties, I was working.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
A flight out of Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
So we're in the waiting area of the Los Angeles
Airport because our flight wasn't there yet, and one of
the women, one of the passengers in our general vicinity,
walks up to the desk and says, there's a.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
Homeless man over there.

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
And I'm a little bit concerned about how a homeless
man got through security. So I hear the agents talking
and then the plane was ready for us to board.
So I got on the plane, not knowing the resolution
of the homeless man situation in the airport. And so
I'm working first class. It's an L ten eleven. That
means that there's three rows of seats, two seats each,

(01:32:56):
and there are let me do the mouth really quickly,
there's thirty two, so there are four rows. And on
the flight here walks a celebrity, Nick Nolty. Nick Nolty
was the guy that she thought was homeless. He looked
like he was homeless. He had on like a dirty jacket,

(01:33:19):
just looked completely disheveled.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
It just looked like a nightmare.

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
But he was sat down in seat four A, and
he was as pleasant as could be.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
He was just as nice as the day is long.

Speaker 5 (01:33:30):
He was very respectful, just really easy passenger, except he
looked like he was homeless. And then I brought him breakfast,
and the breakfast that day was like scrambled eggs, potatoes,
something something I don't remember what else was on the plate.
He proceeded to eat his scrambled eggs with his fingers,
and I have never been so disgusted in my entire life.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
So I have a line.

Speaker 5 (01:33:51):
Scrambled eggs, rice, anything that is gonna just make your
hands like I mean, don't get me wrong. A burger,
if it's a really good burger, it's gonna get your
hands greasy. But you can, in theory, eat a burger
without ending up with dirty hands. You can eat a
sandwich without ending up with dirty hands. Right, Maybe a
little few crumbs here and there you just brush them off.

(01:34:15):
But if you have to go to extra links to
get whatever you're eating off your hands, I think that's
where I draw the line, right, So I want to
know where where do you draw the line. Ethiopian food
is something you eat with your hands, absolutely, and you
can rip off the bread and eat it and it's delicious.
Blood do you want to live in Ethiopia?

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:34:38):
We have forks and spoons and knives for a reason.
They're extremely efficient. If you have to lick your fingers,
you've crossed the line. Well, then that takes out chicken wings.
And I refuse, just on principle, to try and eat
a chicken wing with a knife and fork who am
I the queen. I just want to go I just
want to go hard into those chicken wings. I don't

(01:34:59):
want to have to worry about So that can't be
the decider, Mandy. If that guy's from India, it makes
sense those are the dirtiest people.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
Well that's not nice, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
Getting your best ideas from the third world is like
getting business ideas from the homeless.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
And yet I bet that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:16):
They are socialists out there data mining the homeless population
for the next great business idea. Mandy locally deep Singh Bodasha.
I don't know what Badasha is our democratic socialist advocate
who would platform someone like Mumdani here in Denver. He's
done interviews on the City Cast and with Jeff Hunt.

(01:35:37):
I would love to have him on the show and
I will be reaching out, Mandy Cottage cheese with my
hands all day long.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Oh my god, what are you as savage? That's disgusting.

Speaker 5 (01:35:51):
Food tastes better when you eat it with your hands.
I am not I know, Texter.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:36:00):
I'm not down with that. I am not down with
that at all. Don't get me wrong. There's delicious food
that you can eat with your hands. Pizza being one
of them. But I don't think it makes it taste
better because what's on I mean, do you always wash
your hands before you have dinner?

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
A lot of people don't. I'm just throwing that out there, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
The pizza with a knife and fork, just saying depends
on the pizza.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
If it's like a New.

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
York Slice, that I can fold up and go about
my business, no knife and fork. But if it's like
a Giordano's, I'm knife and fork in that all day long.
You can't manage a Chicago deep dish pizza without a
knife and fork. And all you Chicago people you can
text me if I'm right or wrong. But I am
dark toot and just that's a line in the sand.

(01:36:47):
I'm not crossing, Mandy. Do you eat your Snickers bar
with a fork and knife?

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
Who am I?

Speaker 5 (01:36:51):
George Costanza? Andy, I don't think so. You have to
eat barbecue ribs with your fingers?

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (01:37:01):
I think your point is a guy of incredible privilege
is being so pretentious and dishonest about eating rice barehanded.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
It's obviously a show. Of course, it's a show.

Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
You might have a point, but conservatives need to attack
him on policy and not this nonsense.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
I did that earlier in the show.

Speaker 5 (01:37:20):
So when we get done here in just a few minutes,
you can go to the delightful iHeartRadio app and re
listen to the podcast to hear all of the ways
I ripped apart his garbage policies as well.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
So I'm just having fun with this.

Speaker 5 (01:37:33):
I can't get the vision of him eating rice with
his fingers in a New York City park, Like, what
did he grab the bench when he sat down?

Speaker 6 (01:37:43):
That some guy?

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Never mind? Never mind? Lol?

Speaker 5 (01:37:50):
Who am I the queen? Yes, the queen of Denver
Talk Radio. Everyone eats with their hands, eats wings with
their hands and licks their fingers.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Who was that crazy texture? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
Prim and proper texter, very prim and proper ribs, Yes, beans, no,
great example, same plate, Mandy. Food tastes better when you
killed it with your own hands. I will say fish
tastes better when you fished it with your own hands
and then cleaned it and everything, partially because it just

(01:38:20):
came out of the ocean when you eat it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
If you did all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:38:24):
Ryan Edwards, it's been a long time since we've seen
each other, friend, a long time. Yeah, how was your Baca?

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
Oh it was it was great. Yeah, great.

Speaker 9 (01:38:34):
We're in San Diego for a week and yeah, it's
just really you know, and the weather was perfect every day, seventies. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
San Diego made a deal with the devil at some point,
had to be and just said, hey, devil, we'll give
you whatever you want, but we just want seventy four
degrees every day, sunshine, rain, four times a year.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
Thank you, We're done.

Speaker 9 (01:38:56):
Remarkable in the morning and I actually appreciated this more.
It was, you know, a little overcast, but it burned
off by the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
In the pool. Yeah, how's Japan?

Speaker 6 (01:39:06):
The weather was not remotely.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
Nice at all.

Speaker 5 (01:39:08):
It was a lot of places and it rained on
us like a lot, but so outstanding.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Top three trip I've ever taken it, really.

Speaker 5 (01:39:15):
Yeah, exactly, and I'd like to go back when I
can take the bullet train on a longer train and.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Like do it that way. It was. It was so good.

Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
I loved everything about it. I think he would enjoy
Japanese culture for kind of the same reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
I do. Very orderly, Ryan.

Speaker 5 (01:39:31):
You know, everybody understands where to stand, everybody understands which
side to walk, on very neat and tidy, just.

Speaker 9 (01:39:40):
Culture, underrated part of society.

Speaker 6 (01:39:43):
Oh, I loved it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:45):
It's just I was so happy the whole time, like
walking around like gritty like people.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
I feel.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
See now it's for the most exciting segment all the
radio of its guy of that day.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
All right, what is our dad joke of the day? Please?

Speaker 7 (01:40:10):
One of the ants on My ant Farm dresses up
as a clown to cheer up his friends. He's an
anti depressed man.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
That's good.

Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Today's word of today, please, mugwamp Oh, that's I've heard
that term.

Speaker 7 (01:40:32):
Isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
Isn't it? I've heard it. I've heard it Indian house.

Speaker 6 (01:40:41):
Is it a you know?

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Isn't it like to like something describing a person? But okay,
it kind of grumpy and unhappy. I don't know. You
think so?

Speaker 7 (01:40:50):
But no, a person who is unable to make up
his or her mind on an issue.

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
Oh my gosh, I'm using this in the near future
so I can remember that. What film does the Fallow
famous quote come from?

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
I feel the need the need for speed. Of course
you're gonna use that. You gotta know. It's top gun,
of course.

Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
I rarely not fast and furious. No, No, it's top Gun.

Speaker 6 (01:41:14):
They are doing to.

Speaker 7 (01:41:15):
I guess god, yeah, no, I know, yeah another one.
No no by all means yeah, well, I'm not guiding
to you, no guide into the fact that they're doing another.

Speaker 9 (01:41:26):
Top Guns top Gun. But then they're also going to
do what's a days of thunder? Oh I was going
to tell you they're doing another Fast and furious. Diesel
came out with Tyrese. Of course they making money.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
And Diesels put on a little bit. Oh really, he's
a big dude, that money.

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
He's a premium on letted now and seven premium twenty
twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Apparently they're going to do another one. This could be
the last one.

Speaker 5 (01:41:53):
Yeah, they keep saying that. I'll believe it when they
started making them. What is our Jeopardy category?

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
You as money? You asked money? Okay? The one dollar
bill features one of is that a name? It was
a noise like maybe a bell show. I don't know
what happened.

Speaker 7 (01:42:11):
One dollar bill features one of these structures, topped by
an all sea what's a pyramid? The Feds still issue
bills of this denomination, but in a much smaller quantity
than the others.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
What is the two lar bill. That was good one.

Speaker 7 (01:42:26):
In the late eighteenth century, the first US coins were
minted in this city, the capital what is Philadelphia? Guess
the highest there could have been? There go ahead, the
highest US denomination ever issued, one hundred thousand gold certificates
were not meant for public use, but for use by these.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
It's really worded wrong. I don't know. I'm not The
answer is banks?

Speaker 6 (01:42:58):
Oh duh okay?

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
So two to one yep.

Speaker 7 (01:43:01):
Part of the Treasury Department, the US Bureau of these
two activities can produce over five hundred million notes in
a day.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
These two activities, they do know it. I have a guess,
but I'm sitting on my lead and I'm gonna sit
on it engraving and printing. Yeah, it got hard. That
was hard.

Speaker 5 (01:43:28):
We should know more about our money than that, I thought.
I'm embarrassed for us right now, Ryan, we need to
do a field trip to the FED. It they got
right down town.

Speaker 9 (01:43:35):
Can we do a show from the FED? Is that
that'd be kind of weird though, right? Like come, I
used to be cool to go to like the mint
That's what I'm talking about. Should be cool to go Yeah,
when I was younger, I never Maybe I'll make that
a field trip. I don't know what's coming up on
Kawa Sports Lot. Some fun today is NBA free agency
frenzy at four o'clock today. We'll find out if the
Nuggets do anything right because it's the new league year,

(01:43:58):
so we'll get to that. Nick Ferguson's gonna beat a joker. No,
it will not be joker. But there's a lot of speculation.
There's some Lebron James smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
What why, I mean, why why were he retired? He retired.

Speaker 9 (01:44:10):
He opted in for a fifty two million dollar contract, which.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
Is good business. Yeah, I would, but the.

Speaker 9 (01:44:15):
Statement from his agent made it sound like he's okay
moving on from the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
So now we shall see makes some sense. All that's
coming up next. We'll be back tomorrow. Keep it right
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