07-09-25 FULL SHOW - It's An Ask the Attorneys Kind Of Day

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connall Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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No, it's Mandy Connell.

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And Dona.

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Speaker 4 (00:26):
Well, welcome, Welcome to a Wednesday edition of the show.
I'm your host for the next three hours, Mandy Connall
and today and for the vacationing Anthony Rodriguez, we have
Grant Smith, our favorite millennial Grant. Hello, Instagrant. If we
go way back in the way back Machine.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
That wasname.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
It was a good nickname. I'm very good at nicknames.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
If I would have stayed on your show, I think
that one would have stuck.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
It would have stuck. But no, you left for the
sports show. But whatever, it's fine. I'm not bitter at all.
I don't hold it against you, Grant. I mean, not
only a Christmas time anyway. Oh, we are going to
take you right through. Today's a weird day in the news.
I started as I do, and I've talked about this
on the show before. When I open up all my

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windows and I have like forty tabs at the top
of my browser, and I go through and I decide
what is going to be like the top news. What
is not going to be the top news. There was
a lot of little stories. They're almost like some of
them were like update stories to stories we've talked about before.
But there wasn't a big kind of gold boy, how
do we got to talk about this today story? So

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it's going to be a little of this and a
little of that. It is all on the blog, though,
and you can find that by going to mandy'sblog dot com.
That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline in the
latest post section that says seven nine twenty five blog
it's an as the attorney's kind of day. Click on
that and here are the headlines you will find within.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
I think there was someone who office half of America
all with ships and clipments and say that's going to
press plant.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Today On the blog Guts weather questions been hurt by
someone else's negligence. Koby and Brennan are under investigation. Denver
Public Schools is being forced to clarify Some of the
stories out of Texas are so heartbreaking you can keep
your shoes on. CSP is cracking down on out of
control motorcycles. Is there a cynic revival going on. Wolves

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are doing what wolves do? What a terrible reason for
a murder? We need more beds for violent youthful offenders.
Would you like some frolicking sheep? Let the market decide
on obesity drugs? Sweden says no, thanks to OnlyFans. Montana
farmers needed help. John Stossel updates US on eminent domain abuse.

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Churches can now endorse candidates the sixty.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Year War on food?

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Are seed oils bad for you? Colorado is one of
the top ten healthiest states. Dude, China is doing stuff
we should be concerned about. There is no deep state,
but they are organizing. How about a denversetacation about the
Big Beautiful bill, identity theft and illegal immigrants? How often
should you change your sheets looking for the best Amazon

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Prime Day twenty twenty five deals? Neurodiversity meets gender dysphoria,
and one man wanted a special gift for his birthday.
Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
And I want to say a big happy birthday to
my husband Chuck, even though I know he's not listening
because he doesn't listen to the show. I mean, no,

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it doesn't hurt my feelings ants you heard me the
rest of the time, right, so he doesn't listen to
the show, and a big happy birthday. You know what's weird, Grant,
is that you marry someone, right, and you marry a
young person, and then you turn around and you're married
to an old person. It's weird because then you have
to think about the fact you're like, how did I

(03:51):
end up married to someone in their sixties? Like what happened?
And then I think to myself, Oh my god, I'm
old too.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
That's what I was just going to Yeah, I mean,
I just think about the changes I've been with my
wife now for ten years and the changes in both
of us, and that's oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
But you're you know, times three on that.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah. So I mean, it's just but it is his birthday.
We're not celebrating until Sunday.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Birthday.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, I know, I know, but we're not celebrating until
Sunday because I gotta go record side hustle stuff this afternoon.
But there's a really sweet video on the blog today.
This guy Seattle decided the first birthday he was going
to go to a busy park on a Saturday that
was his birthday, and he put up a sign that says,
it's my birthday, May I pet your dog and can

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they have a treat? And he sat on a bench
with a big old bag of treats and just petted
dogs all day for his birthday. And I was like,
you know what, the older I get, the more I
can appreciate that type birthday because when you're little, you're like,
you know, your birthday is like the best thing ever, right,
especially if you're one of multiple kids, because it's the

(04:56):
only day that's your day, right. You have to share
a Christmas with everybody, you got to share all the
other holidays, but it's your day. And the older I get,
the less I care about birthdays only to mark them
because the alternative is bad, right, So it's just I
don't know. Birthdays for me are not a big deal.

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We had a huge party for Chuck last year for
a sixtieth, so this year he was like, yeah, no,
let's not let's not go crazy. So we're having a
small celebration on Sunday. But I was wondering, like, at
what age did that happen? And I've honed in on
when you hit thirty, I think and I've never been
one of those people who hit like, oh I'm forty,
I have this you know, existential crisis. I've never had

(05:40):
that situation. But I do think after you turned twenty one,
there's not really any big birthdays until you hit twenty five.
If when you know your car insurance is going to
go down, right, you're like, that's the only good thing
that happens after that, and then there's this big expanse
where really nothing good happens on your birthday. You just
keep having him, and nobody gives you more privileges or

(06:03):
nobody you know, you can still drive and drink. Nothing
changes until you're in your later years, and then you're like, oh,
I can sign up for Social Security this year, or
oh I get Medicare next year, And really are those
things to aspire to? No, No, they're not fun. They're
not fun things. But in any case, that is that
is what's happening. That video is on the blog kind

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of in honor of Chuck's birthday today, So if you
know Chuck, send him a text, Happy birthday, Chuck, and
he'll be excited to get it. Anyway, We've got a
couple things happening today at twelve thirty, We've got Fox
thirty one's chief meteorologist Dave Frasier coming on. He's going
to answer questions about this particular heat wave and a
very specific question that someone texted to Ross during his

(06:46):
show about Weld County not being included in the heat
map on Fox thirty one's forecast, So we're gonna be
able to ask him about that. And then we have
Gary and Brad from Bell and Pollock at one o'clock
for an hour of one of my favorite things to do,
ask the attorneys. I love these things. I love hearing
about people's problems. I love it. It makes me so happy.
So if you have been in a situation, especially like

(07:09):
you've suffered harm and someone else was the reason, I
really want to hear your questions because I want to
know all in your business. I want to know the
whole thing. And I actually have a question based on
the most bizarre incident that I have been involved in
on the roadway in a very long time, that happened
the other night when we were on the way home

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from the airport when where our flight had been delayed,
we couldn't get a gate at DIA. It was just
like everything took forever. It was like the world was
conspiring for us not to get home, you know, one
of those days. And when we finally got home, we
had a situation on the road that was so incredibly weird.
I want to ask Garyan Brad about this situation because

(07:53):
it was a road rage situation, not on our part,
on these two dudes on motorcycles. It was just unbelievable.
It was the most It was so unwarranted, it was
just uncalled for, it unnecessary, and it was it was crazy.
So we're gonna do that at one o'clock. But boy
do we have a lot of stuff to get through.
So this is going to be a show where we're
gonna be digging from one story to the next. So

(08:14):
buckle up and pay attention, folks. So the first story
I have on the blog today has to do with
a CIA report that has has been released that clearly
shows that the Obama administer and oh wait, wait, wait minute,
let me walk that back. Let me just let me,

(08:34):
let me make sure I'm not overstating what this CIA
review included. The eight page review, conducted by career CI analyst,
has now challenged the sworn denials by people like James
Comey and James Brennan who lot, well, no, wait, according

(08:55):
to this document, we're not truthful about the usage of
the Steele dossier to justify an investigation into the Trump campaign.
The newly released CIA review challenges their sworn denials to Congress.
I'm reading this from real clear investigations that the Steele
dossier a discredited set of allegations about Trump funded by

(09:19):
the Hillary Clinton campaign, that it was used as the
basis for the year's long Russiagate probe the Hamstrong President
Trump's first term. So here's the situation. According to the
text of this review, there is a highly classified report

(09:40):
known as as an Intelligence community assessment, okay, And the
Intelligence community assessment, I believe is used both within the
intelligence community and also for policy decisions by the administration
in charge. And they use it, and it's highly classified,
and it's basically you've got to be in the know

(10:00):
and have top secret clearance and blah blah blah in
order to see it. And both James Brennan and James
Comey flatly denied that the Steele dossier was any part
of the intelligence community assessment used to buttress their case
that Russiagate was indeed a valid investigation. The CIA review

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set on page five. Ultimately, agency heads decided to include
a two page summary of the dossier as an annex
to the ICA, with a disclaimer that the material was
not used quote to reach the analytic conclusions. However, by
placing a reference to the annex material in the main

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body of the ICA as the fourth supporting bullet for
the judgment that Putin aspired to help Trump win, the
ICA implicitly elevated the dossier's unsubstantiated claims to the status
of credible supporting evidence, compromising the analytic integrity of the judgment.

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So this is part of the CIA's Lessons Learned report,
and it directly contradicts Obama administration officials that they did
not use the Steele dossier as the basis for their investigation.
Former CIA Director John Brennan insisted in his sworn twenty
seventeen testimony before Congress that the Steele dossier was not

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quote in any way used as a basis for the
so called ICA, completed in late December twenty eighteen. Later,
during a May twenty twenty three House Judiciary Committee interview,
Brennan claimed the CIA was very much opposed to having
any reference or inclusion of the Steele dossier in the
intelligence community assessment.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
That is a lie.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
And I mean it's not even a like a you know,
a massaged lie. It's just a flat out lie. They
also so have then National Intelligence Director James Clapper, and oh,
I'm sorry, I said, comey, I'm at Clapper, sorry about that.
They have James Clapper in an official twenty seventeen statement
that we did not rely on the dossier in any

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way for our conclusions. Several months later, he assured Congress
the dossier was not a formal part of the intelligence
community assessment. And it goes on from there. So before
you get excited that anybody is going to be held
to account, I want to throw cold water on that.
The more and I said this at the end of

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Ross's show, the more I think about the fact that
now Cash Fattel and Pam Bondi are saying, hey, there's
no there there with Epstein and there was just there's
no client list and there probably isn't a specific list
with the word client list written at the top. They're like, ah,
there's nothing there, Okay. At a bare minimum, We know

(12:56):
that Jeffrey Epstein had ongoing contact with some of the
most powerful people in the world. We know that in
two thousand and eight he got an absolute sweetheart deal
in Florida, and we know that the guy who gave
him the deal said he was told to back off
because Jeffrey Epstein was intelligence with intelligence. We know that

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he had cameras in every single room of his townhouse.
We know that thousands of hours of video exists from
all of that. We know that he took powerful men
to an island, to the Mohammas where young girls who
fourteen fifteen years old were there to service them. We
know all of this, and you're telling me not a
single one of those men is going to be held accountable,

(13:37):
not one, not even a sacrificial freaking lamb. The only
person in jail for it is a woman. And so
I don't have any confidence that any I mean, we
could actually put James Clapper in j we could put
them up in front of Congress and play their lies

(13:59):
to Congress, and then we could show the intelligence community
assessment that showed that they were lying, and they still
will get off. That's how I feel at this point.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I just I just don't.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I just I've lost confidence that we don't have a
two tier justice system that well connected people can't do
whatever they want, including having sex with young girls and
get away with it. They just don't care, and they're
not even trying to hide it. I mean, really, honestly,

(14:32):
you know, I heard Leland Vinner trying to give a
little credit on Ross's show, Our Little Grace, I guess
is a better word to the people outside the administration
who are now inside the administration, like Dan Bongino and
Cash Mattel, And he points out it's a whole lot
easier to be outside the administration and hurl and lob
these accusations, but when you're in the administration, you realize
nothing happens in a vacuum, not a single thing does

(14:56):
not affect something else, And so you start realize, wait
a minute, what I wanted to do is going to
have all of these negative effects. And it's not just
about protecting powerful people, although I think that's a huge
part of it. I actually believe the former CIA agent
who's come out and said, I think they destroyed everything
anything that could put powerful people away. He said, I'm

(15:17):
pretty sure it's been destroyed by the FBI and the CIA.
Think about that for a second, and nobody's taking to
the streets over this. Nobody's super angry about this. I mean,
come on, Mandy, I thought, of all people, Trump would
get that list published, but I can only guess his
name is on it. And I don't trust anybody anymore

(15:39):
in the government. I don't trust him at all. I'm
just done with it. That from a Texter, I wish
I could tell you're wrong, But I want to remind
you guys of something that happened in twenty sixteen that
I thought about today. Do you remember all of the
Trump rallies as he was leading up to the twenty
sixteen election, where people were chanting lock her up, lock

(16:00):
her up, and it was all about Hillary Clinton, and
he was like, Oh, we're gonna nail crooked Hillary, We're
gonna get her. And as soon as he got elected, oh,
the tone changed. He even called her beautiful Hillary, and
the entire thing was just dropped. And now we have
the Biden family who walked out of the White House

(16:21):
with Hunter Biden committing tax fraud. He committed fraud on
a firearms license. He hoovered up so much money from
Ukrainian oligarchs and Chinese communists. And if we heard a
word about that, no. Now, granted his father did issue
a blanket pardon for all of his crimes, do we
hear anything else about that?

Speaker 8 (16:40):
No?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Because they are powerful, they are well connected, and the
rest of us peons out here, we're supposed to deal
with crime and punishment. They're just supposed to do the
crime and get away with it. Super super frustrating, just
super super frustrating. And I wish that I had any
confidence that there was anybody out there that would do
anything about this. But I think that the protection racket

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that is Washington, DC is far too powerful for any
of us to really get around. You know, there's nothing
we can do about I don't even know what we
can do about it. I think that the FBI and
the CIA are hopelessly corrupted at the top. Hopefully there'll
be some change under cash Mattel.

Speaker 9 (17:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
I just it's distressing because these are the organizations that
are supposed to be on our side, and they certainly
don't feel like that now, Mandy. In other news, you
lay Maxwell became the first person convicted of trafficking children
to nobody. Correct Texter, Correct. If there was no sex

(17:47):
trafficking and there were no children trafficked, then why is
she in prison? If I'm her attorney, I'm making that
argument today.

Speaker 10 (17:56):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Dave Frasier, Hey.

Speaker 11 (17:57):
Good afternoon, and a happy birthday to Oh. I've never
met your husband. I feel like most of your listeners,
you talk about him enough that we feel like we
know him.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
So our birthday, Chuck, I.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Will send those messages along to him and Dave right
out of the choot. We have a question, but it
relates to the heat that we're having right now. A
Texter jumped the gun and texted Ross Kaminski on the
show today to ask, why is most of Weld County
outside the heat map warning on your broadcast? Because it
makes it look weird because the foothills are in it

(18:30):
and Weld County is not in it. Why did Weld
County get left out?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (18:35):
So, you know the the National Weather Service when they
issue advisories like this and either issue it for an
entire county or they have zones and they try and
target the areas that best fit where the message should
be and put the message today, it's about the potential
that we could get anywhere from ninety nine to like

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one hundred and one degrees to be the first time
this year if the censor at the airport reaches one hundred,
we've been ninety eight ninety nine, that's been the warmer
so far. That was actually on the first day of summer.

Speaker 12 (19:07):
With the ninety nine you're joining us.

Speaker 11 (19:09):
It has to do with basically where the heat will
be retained Mandy, and we've talked about this. If you
look at that map, you'll see that all of Metro
Denver is in it, but communities south of there over
the Palmer Divide are not. And it has to do
with the heat island where the heat will be retained
a little longer through the day. And obviously you think
about the buildings, the concrete, all the asphalt, that kind

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of stuff that retains the heat and makes it tough
for it to cool off even with the setting sun
for a few hours. And parts of the front range
includes the foothills, and there is a wedge in north
and northwestern Weld County where the wind direction out of
the northwest has got a little bit of a downsloping
component to it. It may hold the temperatures they are up.
As you move east of I twenty five into Welld County,

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it becomes a little more rural and you don't have
that kind of city environment over wide areas, and so
they don't bake as much as you would find in
the metro area. And like I said, the wind component,
the wind component kind of keeps the foothills in there.
But once you get east of the bottom of the foothills,
that wind component, that heating that downsloping just doesn't exist there.

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And so the threshold is a little lower that the
heat or the fields like temperature will reach, you know,
one hundred degrees. And by the way, on a side note,
because of our dry climate, the heat index, which is
a measurement of what it feels like outside, is always
about five degrees lower than the air temperature. So if
the temperature the temperature right now at DIA is ninety six,

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but it says it feels like ninety one, now you're
going to go outside and say it's blazing hot, dad,
because you're in the direct sunlight. But we just don't
have the humidity. And we all know the mechanics of sweating.
When you sweat in a human environment, the moisture is
not removed from your body, and it causes your body
to heat more. When you're in a dry environment and
you sweat, that moisture evaporates and about operation is a

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cooling process and it helps to cool your body just
a little bit. So even though the air temperature is
one thing that feels like, temperature is lower in this
type of situation.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
So when you're offering a heat advisory, does it have
to be it's going over one hundred? Feels like because
I got this text Mandy, I live in Weld County
and I'm actually outside right now and it's one hundred degrees.
We should have had a heat advisory. So what kicks
in that heat? What's the thresholds?

Speaker 11 (21:25):
It's basically, here's the thing, and this is kind of
opening up Tandeller's box. It's not related to the heat index.
It is related to the air temperature. It's related to
it's related to stagnant air, lack of wind, the fact
that you know, we don't reach one hundred degrees all
that often here in Denver. It hasn't happened a lot.

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You know, there are years where we never get to
one hundred degrees during the summer. And so the argument
is there's a subjective nature to when to trigger when
to not, and in these in the environment we're in today,
it's it's just a heads up if you will that
if you're going to be outside for prolonged periods today,
you've got to take breaks. You've got to find shade,

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you've got to stay hydrated, wear loose, light colored clothing.
And that goes to the workers who are out about
making sure that they're taking breaks, because it is at
a point where you know, you don't want somebody to
overexert themselves and become you know, sick with heat illness. Right,
so we're you know, there's kind of a threshold there,
but you could argue that like it's it's one hundred
and five and two soon or one hundred and eight

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and two soon, and so the people living there are
the same as people living here. It's just a matter
of are you used to it? And that's the argument
that is played into this. We yes, exactly, it's a
little bit of there's a little bit of wiggle room
as to you know, hey, we don't get that hot
that often.

Speaker 13 (22:45):
Maybe we should just keep binkle of heads up.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Well, Dave roz Kaminski's in the studio with me and
he's got a weather question for you.

Speaker 14 (22:51):
Hi, David sure Russ, Hey, I want to follow up
on something you just said. So, you know, I've got
a sister in law who lives in Phoenix and it's
one hundred and eighteen or something. Yeah, and you, Dave,
you just talked about getting used to it, and I
was wondering do bodies actually get used to it? Or
is it sort of a psychological thing. I've been through
it enough and it doesn't bother me. Yeah, and I

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didn't die and I'm still here.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
It is fine.

Speaker 14 (23:15):
Or does over time do people's bodies really react differently?
So maybe you live somewhere hut for a while and
your body doesn't react until ninety five degrees, when somebody else's.

Speaker 8 (23:28):
Body would react the same way at ninety degrees.

Speaker 12 (23:31):
Well, i'll answer this.

Speaker 11 (23:32):
I'll give you an example and it ties right into
your question about your family member down in Phoenix. So,
my wife's family lives in the Phoenix and Tucson area.
My son moved to Tucson a little more than three
years ago to attend the University of Arizona, and he
lives down there. My son grew up here. My son
grew up in winters. He loves skiing, he loves Colorado's climate.

(23:53):
He's been back to visit us sometimes in the fall
and we'll complain it feels too cold, and we look
at him like you're crazy. Herst Yeah, her sisters will
come up to visit, and my wife is is I
don't want to say cheap, but she's little singy on
the thermometer like we during the winter, our thermostad in
the house during the winter is sixty four and during

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the summer of the eight doesn't kick on till eighty.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Will die in your house.

Speaker 11 (24:18):
Yeah, but when our family members from Senix come up,
I do rots think that they get acclimated to it
and they know how to deal with that kind of heat.
Because my sister will all come up and you know
that heat won't kick onto sixty four. She's walking around
in a shawl like she's said, you know, die of prospite.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
That's hilarious. Let me ask you this, Let me ask
you this question. I got some good questions before you
even came on today, so I want to get these in. Hey, Mandy,
question for Dave June seventeenth a tornado touched down in
oh dag Navity. Just updated a tornado touchdown near Divide, Colorado.
Historically it's been extremely rare for this to occur so
near the mountains. Any idea why that happened.

Speaker 11 (24:58):
It's this thunderstorm that had enough to left on it.
I saw the pictures. It does happen.

Speaker 14 (25:03):
It is rare.

Speaker 11 (25:04):
It is odd because the atmosphere there is not as
tall as it is down over the east eastern plane.
You know, you want the photostorm to stretch out and
to grow vertically to get kind of that strength to
be able to create a tornado. But there is what
we call low top convection that can do that, and
we have seen evidence of that. There's been many instances
of tornadoes being spotted in around Pipe's Peak because of

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the wind direction and the storm's coming up over that
higher terrain as they come up the backside near Divide
and those areas. So it can happen, and it has happened.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
So what are we looking at in terms of how
many days of oppressive heat do we have? And as
I was driving to work today, I was looking around.
Everything is still really green right now, which is nice
because I don't have to worry about you know, super
like Austin charts fire danger. But what are we looking
at for the next few days and when will we
get a little bit of a reprieve.

Speaker 11 (25:55):
The little replieve comes tomorrow. Our forecast is in the
low nineties. There will be more and there is about
a twenty to thirty percent chance of scattered storms in
the afternoon. Now like the last few days where we
had some microverse damage with trees down across the area,
especially in Centennial Those that's attributed to quickly rising and
drying thunderstorms to collapse and throw a gust of wind

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at the ground that hits a localized area and blasts
out in a kind of a circular direction, it can
cause damage.

Speaker 13 (26:24):
We've seen that.

Speaker 11 (26:25):
I would say that dusty wind tomorrow could be possible
with the storm, but because of the cloud cover, we'll
be down to about ninety two to ninety three. Then
Friday has.

Speaker 13 (26:32):
A better chance of rain.

Speaker 11 (26:33):
We're in the low eighties Friday, Saturday back to ninety
ninety one. Sunday, Monday dry and then back to low
eighties again with more rain coming on Wednesday and Thursday
of next week, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday of next week.
So the green you're seeing out there, we are getting
intervals of rain at the right time, right after bouts
of hot weather. I love the mixture.

Speaker 13 (26:55):
It's perfect, it really is.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
And you know, we can meet. All I can say is, Dave,
it's not a pan hot and a humid So whatever
we're dealing with, I can take it. I'm ready. Put
me in coach. I'm ready to go. Yep, Dave Fraser.
Last question from our texter. By the way, I have
several Texters who are are very upset about your wife
not kicking the air on until eighty I believe we're

(27:17):
going to start a GoFundMe to provide the Fraser household
with air conditioning at a more civilized temperature. But well,
last question, ask Dave, who makes the decision feels like
a person from Anchorage or Saudi Arabia, And I think
that kind of goes to what you're talking about. Depending
on where you're from, depends on what it feels like.

Speaker 11 (27:37):
Yeah, it's Ross's you know, it's the same thing Ross
pointed out. It's arbitrary if you're used to a certain
climate and a certain way of things you do kind
of acclimate to that environment, and then when you move
it takes a little while. My son's a perfect example.
He should be able to stand cold windshills below zero,
but he comes up here during the winter now after
living in Arizona promos for four years, and he complains
about it being cold, or like, go back to Arizona.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yep, there you, Dave Fraser. I'll talk to you again soon,
my friend. Thank you. All right, we will be a
right back. I want to touch back to what we
were talking about the first segment, because I realized that
I am. I'm thrilled actually that all of you are
as annoyed as I am about the entire Epstein situation,
and a lot of you took to the text line

(28:19):
to make comments on that, and a couple of them
are really really fantastic, really fantastic. I keep hoping that
Ptel and Bongino have an ace up their sleeves, and
this is a feint for something real. I think the
only way we're going to get any kind of information
out of this is if someone either hacks it or

(28:42):
steals it from inside. If there's anything left, I would
not be surprised if all of the super incriminating information
that may have existed at one point is just gone.
Because that's the kind of powerful people that we're talking about.
And you know, there's another thing about this. This stinks
to high heaven. Let's just say that Jeffrey Epstein got
a sweetheart deal in two thousand and eight because he

(29:04):
was working with the CIA. What does that mean? Because
if this dude has been entrapping powerful people so that
the federal government can have leverage over them, that, my friends,
should concern everybody. There's so much wrong with this story.
And someone said it the best when they said, Mandy

(29:25):
the texter who said he no longer believes anyone in
government speaks what a lot of us now believe. This
is exactly why the concept of limited government is so
powerful and so relevant. And he's absolutely right. This texter
just said, Mandy, wake up and smell the coffee, sister.
The FBI and CIA have never been on our side.
It's all for other people, the rich people. If it's convenient,

(29:48):
it'll be on our side, but otherwise, no go sorry,
I get it, folks, I get it. Mandy. What is
happening in your two segments? I want to know so
I decide when I want to rejoin your show. I
find the up and coming law segment the most boring
of your shows, followed by the guy you bring on
for real estate. I understand your fascination with the law

(30:10):
because of your father, and real estate because you invest
in property, But some of your audience are not as
enthusiastic as you. Well, I'm the nicest way I could
say it is. Not every segment is for everyone, right,
That's why we try to switch up the segments as
quickly as possible. And there are a lot of people
who are invested in not just financially invested, but a

(30:32):
lot of people who do like these segments. So I'm
sorry they're not for you. But in the two I
don't know. I have no idea. I don't plan that
far ahead. I mean, you can go to the blog
and look at some stuff there and maybe that's gonna
do this. So, Mandy, did you ever use a cassette
tape to record songs off the radio with your ghetto blaster?
Am I even a gen xer? If I didn't do that?

(30:53):
Am I even a gen xer? If I didn't have
an entire mixtape? Missing the first four seconds of every
song because you couldn't turn it on fast enough. You'd
hear you'd hear the beginning of the ramp and you'd
like hurl yourself across the room to hit the record
and play button at the same time. Oh yeah, these
kids today, Wait there, don't just stream it? Wait and

(31:16):
have the luxury.

Speaker 7 (31:18):
Well, we could stream it, but then we would crash
our home computer time wire. Yes, well, we recorded our
ring tones that way. What when your favorite song would
come on the radio and you'd download, you'd like save it.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
You wait, what what would you record it on too?

Speaker 5 (31:36):
On the computer?

Speaker 4 (31:37):
The mixer, nap mixer mix Your kids are soft? You're soft, Grant.

Speaker 15 (31:45):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
For some reason, my phone updated and and it did
away with my back in black ring tone that I've
had for years. Grant. It took me an excessively long
period of time to get that ringtone back to the
point where I was like, well, that's it. I'm just
gonna start going to bed at four thirty right after

(32:07):
my Tapyoka cup, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna call
my phone that new fangled contraption.

Speaker 9 (32:12):
From now on.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
It was.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
It was ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
It took me like forty five minutes. I can't even
remember the last time I let my phone make a noise.
Mine is on vibrate only.

Speaker 12 (32:22):
Mine is on.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Mine is not on vibrate only. Most of the time
it's just off, but it's on. My ringer's on. When
Chuck and I are in the grocery store and he
goes one direction to get something and I go the
other direction. That's the only time I turned my ringer up.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
Is that like an inherent built in thing? And men
because my wife loses me all the time.

Speaker 13 (32:41):
No, we're very.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Strategic in the grocery store. We're list people like, we're
not just willy nilly in the grocery store. But sometimes
you're at one end and you realize, okay, we need
two things left. One side is produced and the other
side is something that's on the other side of the store.
So you divide and conquer. And at that point I
turn my uh R on. Here comes the segment that

(33:02):
that textor hates. But I love asked the attorney, and
I've already got a guy calling it one who texted
a really good question earlier. And I have questions about
an incident that I just went through that was insane.
We're gonna do that next with Gary and Brad from
Bell and Pollock.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Bell and Pollock
Accident and Injury Lawyers.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
No, it's Mandy Connell.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Andy Tonka.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
N FM.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Got wait you say the niceys through three?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Andy Connell keeping who is sad Babe?

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
In this hour, we are gonna play ask the Attorneys.
Because I have Gary and Brad from Bell and Pollock
in the studio right now. I've already got a couple
of questions, and I got a guy who's calling back,
So get on board now, because you can call three
oh three seven to one, three eighty five eighty five
and speak directly with Carry and Brad. And I would

(34:07):
prefer that because when you text a question it gets
really difficult to sort of parse out the reality of it.
You don't give enough details. They need more information. So
I need you to pick up the phone and call
today three oh three seven one three eighty five eighty five.
Before that, I want to give a something I normally
don't do, but this seems like a big deal. Mandy,
just a shout out for Sergeant Robert Cruz, who was

(34:28):
awarded the Soldier's Medal today a Colorado Native station at Buckley,
Proud to know him. He exemplifies service and courage. Thanks no,
thank you, Sergeant Robert Cruz. Guys, welcome into the studio.
Good to see you again.

Speaker 15 (34:42):
Nice to see you, Nice to see you. Thanks for
having us once again, Rod and ready to go legal
rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
I have a question that may not have any real
answer here, but it has to do with road rage.
We were on the way home from the airport and
two guys on motorcycles stopped on a major road, stopped
in front of us, and then proceeded to get off
their motorcycles to try and I don't know what my
husband he used an expletive and said, oh no, and

(35:12):
then drove between the motorcycles and did some damage to
one of the guy's bikes. Then we drove to the
police station. Police came out filed a report. They said, well,
we can't make a you know, this is a no
fault accident or whatever, But in a road rage situation,
what kind of stuff do you guys deal with that?
Are you seeing people who have been harmed in a
road rage situation, and what does that look like?

Speaker 15 (35:33):
Yeah, I mean we have our first advice to everybody, friends, family,
is avoid them. But you can't always avoid them because
here you are in the middle of it. So, I mean,
it's just like any action that there's liability for that
kind of driving, that kind of behavior, that kind of
conduct on behalf of the motorcycle riders, and so they
have to pay the consequences if they cause injury. There's

(35:55):
a big problem. What if you just thrown your bakes
and some other car hits you, and then you hit
the other car.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
A lot could have gone wrong. That didn't go wrong,
A lot could have gone terribly wrong. It was the
most absurd situation I've ever been involved in in my
life and shocking. It's shocking.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
It changes from changes from negligence to an intentional torque, assault, battery,
reckless conduct, intentional conduct. So it can heighten the the
amount of claims you have against the people who have
caused road rage. If you're doing things like you were
talking about, you probably have a pass because you were

(36:32):
acting in self defense from what was happening. So you're
acting in self defense what they caused the injuries they
cause can heighten the degree of culpability they have. Now
you know there's a question that you have. Then are
you losing insurance coverage because there I'm sure their insurance
coverage that they have to be riding their bikes is

(36:54):
not going to cover them acting in road rage style.
They're going to the insurance company is going to say
we're not covering that it was an intentional torque, and
we're going to.

Speaker 16 (37:03):
Come back and say, no, you have to cover it.

Speaker 8 (37:05):
And that's one of the reasons you have coverage is
even if somebody loses their cool on the road, because
people lose their cool on the road.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
The most upsetting part about this is we literally drove
to the police station. One of the guys on the
motorcycles following us the entire time, but we drove to
the police station and was like, we're outside, can somebody
come out and file a report? Doesn't occur to me,
they now have our home address. Yeah, yeah, that seems
like something that should be mitigated in certain situations, but
yet it is not.

Speaker 15 (37:32):
Well, think about it, yeah, and think about this your situation.
Many so you have the motorcycles as road rage, and
we say this on our show all the time. We'll say,
right here, what if and I didn't wish it on anybody,
What if you somebody was injured? Yea, what if somebody
hit you then and you hit another car and the
motorcycle driver usually doesn't have much of any insurance, right,

(37:54):
so then you fall back on your own you m U,
I am on your own car policy.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Which we have. Yeah, because I listened to Gary and Brad,
that's the perfect you do.

Speaker 15 (38:06):
You know you can hear it right now. This motorcycle
driver caused this, they did this, They did that well,
they don't have any insurance, and so that's what.

Speaker 16 (38:12):
You do well, which you did was perfect.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
I mean my husband handled it. I mean he's you know,
as he said, he said he was. He was very
taken aback. He had no idea it just the whole
thing happened very quickly. It happened out of nowhere. It
was like what is going on? And uh, you know,
we did what we had to do. But I was like,
what if because we stopped in the middle of a
major roadway, what if we'd gotten rear ended, we would

(38:35):
have run over both of them. Yeah, that's the thing
that got me. I was like, what are you doing?
You're putting yourself in danger.

Speaker 15 (38:41):
But his vetan, he's a veteran, his military training kicked in.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Here we go, Well, you do not want to try
and block a guy on the roadways who was almost
killed in an ambush and a humvey. That's the wrong
guy to choose to do that too, he responded thusly.
So and you know, didn't hurt anybody, but it was
not a good scene. Okay, got a bunch of people
lined up. Let's get to these questions. Mike, you're on
McGary and Brad from Bell and Pollock. What's your question?

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Hei.

Speaker 12 (39:07):
I had ornary bypass surgery last August, and afterwards I
really struggled breathing and for a couple of months couldn't
figure out what it was. But anyway, come to find out,
my left diaphragm was left paralyzed from the surgery, and
consequently they my left longman is half collapsed and I've

(39:31):
had some procedures done to try and correct it, but
it's turns out its permanent condition. At this point, it's
quite debilitating. I've talked to a handful of law offices
and no one's no one's willing to take the case.

(39:51):
They and they don't really tell me why. And consequently,
all the doctors I've seen are quite surprised that this.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
So this is not a common energy injury.

Speaker 15 (40:04):
Now, first of all, I'm so sorry that you're going
through this, but we'll tell you why. No, no, lawyer,
you'll take it. We'll tell you right now. What they're
looking for is a case where the doctors can't come
in the expert and the doctor's defending the doctor that
did this, where they can't come in and say that's
a natural risks that you assumed a risk, it was

(40:25):
disclosed to you, then can send for them that's a
natural risk. I mean, it's unfortunate, sir, and it's an
unfortunate happening. We're sorry, Okay, we're sorry, but it's a
it's a risk that you inherited. We did nothing wrong
to cause it, and there's nothing we could have done
to stop it. And that's why they won't take the case.

Speaker 13 (40:42):
Right there?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Is that I mean, is that clearly outlineders it in
that general bad things could happen to you that you
signed off in frust. And if that's the case, then
can you ever get made whole. If you have a
situation where you have an unusual injury from surgery, is
it I mean, it sounds like medical malpractice is just hard.

Speaker 8 (41:02):
Well, that's one of the questions I have for the
caller is where you advise that this was a complication
or a potential complication of your coronary artery bypassed. Did
anybody come and say, hey, you can suffer these problems
And was any of that put in writing such that
you understood some of the risks that you were going through.

(41:22):
Because I agree with Gary, nobody wants to handle these
type of cases. They're very expensive. The costs are tremendous
because you have to get experts in the field who
will testify against their own doctors, their own brethren. And
at the same time, if there's any hint that you
or advised that this was a potential complication, then they say, well,

(41:43):
we're off.

Speaker 16 (41:44):
The hook because now we advise you what was happening.

Speaker 15 (41:46):
The other thing is the other thing is you have
to look at what facts you'd have to prove that
they did something wrong, because if they did nothing wrong
and it just happened, then you're into that great category.
But let me give you one more example, Ananda, you
just brought it up. We know, what can you ever do?
Let's say I'm a doctor. Let's I'm gonna give you
stomach surgery today, and I give you all the risks

(42:07):
and then I cut your spinal cord, right, I mean, no,
that's a case.

Speaker 8 (42:10):
Right.

Speaker 15 (42:11):
There you go, that's not a risk. You did it,
and there you go.

Speaker 12 (42:17):
So well in this case, certainly they didn't. That was
not something they talked to me about. They said that
they were going to do it on pump meeting on
a hardby pass, and they ended up not doing it
on pump. And I understand this is, like I say,
a very rare situation. They have to cause trauma to

(42:37):
that nerve to injure it. They can't, you know what
I mean, just going in there doesn't injure it. Something
has to happen to that nerve that they know is there, right.

Speaker 8 (42:50):
And if you can hook up that they appropriately they're
improperly hit that nerve or contacted that nerve to odds
the diaphragm paralysis, then you've got something going for you
because that's not supposed to happen. But uh, you're going
to get a lot of doctors who are going to

(43:10):
say that's part of the risk.

Speaker 16 (43:12):
That's what happens in these things.

Speaker 8 (43:14):
And we're dealing in such tight quarters when we're trying
to do a surgery like this, we're facing situations that
can happen to you.

Speaker 16 (43:23):
Again again, you know, I.

Speaker 8 (43:25):
Think probably the main problem I hear so far. It
takes a lot examining it a lot more, but the
main problem I hear so far is that nobody told
you this could happen.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Uh, you know, well, it sounds to me like they
prepared him for one kind of surgery and then ended
up doing a different kind of surgery. What kind of
what kind of wiggle room do you have there? If any?

Speaker 15 (43:48):
Okay, Okay, that's a great question, because what they did
when you go after and what's the default too, is
you agreed that and look at your cons in form here.
You agreed that I would do this procedure and I
could do INNY related procedure that I and my professional
medical judgment I seem necessary at the time, and I
don't need to wake everybody up, and I don't need
to call a time out, and I just go for it.

(44:09):
That's what you That's what your face.

Speaker 10 (44:12):
I mean.

Speaker 15 (44:13):
But you know, let's talk about disclosure one quick, one
quick moment. You say this wasn't disclosed to you. Probably true,
and they didn't bring it to your attention, probably strong
enough or even at all. But in some cases, there's
how doctor's disclosure disclosure. Hey, I may injure your nerve,
and if I injure your nerve, you may have these problems.
Here's how they they do it. By the way, there's

(44:33):
a nerve there, and they're done, and they call that
a full disclosure. By you know, by the way that
you have herder surgery. No, there's a major nerve there,
and hernie surgery. By the way, there's a nerve. Let's
move on.

Speaker 8 (44:48):
When you've met with these attorneys, have they had you
bring your medical records in, if they had anybody look
at them for you? Have they talked about an expert
to look at him, or having anybody review what the
doctor did and what's in the records.

Speaker 12 (45:02):
It was not really. There were a couple of them
wanted to get really in depth about what happened, and
in the end they you know, they want all the
information about who, where, why, which, all the doctors. I've
seen and all that kind of thing and got very specific.
But on believe they looked at any medical records.

Speaker 8 (45:22):
I would know that, well, you'd have to sign the
documents to let them get the medical records. But you know,
they're obviously not wanting to go through that exercise to
try and find out if something happens. So they're relating
the diaphragm paralysis to the coronary bypass surgery.

Speaker 16 (45:39):
They're relating it and saying.

Speaker 8 (45:40):
That's one of the risks you take, whether or not
that's identified in the records, and whether or not the
records indicate that there was a negligent or an inadvertent
the nerve problem or cutting of the nerve versus whether
or not it was something that happened out in negligence
or just how and as part of the surgery. Sometimes

(46:02):
the records you're going to.

Speaker 15 (46:03):
Tell you that, Well, here's what I want to do
for you. There's about ten other things where we could
tell you. Probably don't have time. I want I'll talk
to you off the air. I'm going to take you
from beginning to in all the hurdles I'm gonna explain
to you so you understand and you're comfortable in your
own skin on this question, because because you've got lots
of questions and we got more to tell you, we
just can't cover it all in there. I'll do it
for free.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Give them a call at the office three oh three
seven nine five fifty nine hundred and they will give
you the rest of the information. That sucks. I mean,
there's just no other way to put it.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
It just sucks.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
I hope that you get some kind of at least
understanding and peace from a further conversation with it. But
I appreciate you making the call today.

Speaker 13 (46:43):
Thanks Mandy, no problem.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (46:45):
Ron.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
You were on with Gary and Brad for ask the
attorneys which guy.

Speaker 13 (46:50):
I'd got a situation. I had a couple that were
my roommates in my home and I haven't heard from
them in over a year. I haven't received any money
from them in about a year, and I want to

(47:13):
know what I can do to get rid of their stuff.

Speaker 17 (47:15):
Oh so they're just gone and their stuff is still
in your house? Yeah, oh geez, Okay, and you're not worried.
You're not worried about mortgage payments or money from them.
You just want to be rid of them, right, is
that you got that right?

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (47:32):
I mean sometimes the people co sign on the lease,
then they disappear and then the roommates stuck with the lease.
That sort of thought.

Speaker 10 (47:39):
There was absolutely no paperwork. It was a friendship thing
that went sour. And he's an over the road truck driver.

Speaker 13 (47:52):
And I don't even know how to get in touch
with them at this point because the last known address
I have for them is mine.

Speaker 8 (48:02):
So you have That's one of the first things I
was going to ask you. Do you have any way
to send contact to them, But even if you think
it might fail, if you have emails, if you have addresses,
if you know the company that the person worked for
and the truck driving company, and you can get some
information statement out to them that this is a matter

(48:24):
that you're going to eventually. It sounds to me like
and out disposing of the stuff. And one of the
things you're going to you need to do right now
is go take photos of everything that's there.

Speaker 16 (48:36):
You need a good inventory.

Speaker 8 (48:37):
As a matter of fact, I would take photos of it,
and I would have somebody else with you to take
the inventory. So you're listening everything that's there, it having
been there that long, the value of it. It just
keeps going down and down and down, so you can
figure that when you're dealing with the value of your
potential liability, you need to identify what the value of

(48:58):
these items are.

Speaker 16 (48:59):
By have and good.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
Photos the judge can look at and say these aren't
worth much. Then you're going to want to go to
every source and avenue of how you could make contact
with these people. If you have email addresses, if you
have phone numbers, if you know where they work, if
you know if you send it to them through their work,
their last known place of employment, any relatives they have.

(49:25):
I'd be telling you to put together at least ten
different letters or ten letters to different people saying you know,
I've got your stuff, I'm going to be getting rid
of it. I'm going to get rid of it and
give them six months if you need to. I know
that's an inconvenience for you to have that stuff that
much longer, but give them plenty of notice. Give it
to every source you can, and if you know some

(49:49):
of their old other friends, if you know some of
their relatives, whoever you can and tell them they've gotten
tell such and such time to get stuff, or else
you're going to start disposing of it.

Speaker 15 (50:00):
You got to listen to about real carefully. You must
take an inventory and you must have photographs. Because your
rule of thumb in this whole situation is whatever you
do be reasonable, be reasonable, and the notices you give
be reasonable. In the amount of time you give them
to move and to act on it, be reasonable and listen.
The pure law on abandonment and property is there has

(50:22):
to be a physical act of abandonment. I mean I
just leave and I physically abandon the property, plus an
intent to abandon, And so how do you measure intent?
The longer it goes, the more my intent is, I'm
not coming back. But you want an inventory in pictures?
Why because what if I'm one of your roommates and
I show up and I said, what do you do

(50:43):
with my diamond watch?

Speaker 8 (50:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (50:45):
Wait a minute, I had a small jewel collection.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
What did you do with that?

Speaker 15 (50:50):
So you got it and you can prevail and it
doesn't You can even put a notice in the newspaper,
and if you do, pick the cheapest new payers paper
around nickel or something like that.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Okay, all right, and this is all just a cya
in case they come back for their stuff later, which
they may or may not do. But this is all
just to cover his behind. It is so he doesn't
have to worry about them suing him later and lying
about what he threw away exactly. All right, Yeah, there
you getting You've been given your CYA marching orders. Get cracking,

(51:26):
get your inventory going. I appreciate the call man. We've
got a couple of really good questions lined up. Ted
has a colonoscopy issue with his wife. I don't think
he has the issue. I think his wife has the issue.
And Colby has an AI question. I don't know if
you guys, you guys doing any AI litigation.

Speaker 15 (51:41):
Well, we're going them all around it, so let's see
what we.

Speaker 16 (51:44):
Can do with it.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
I gotta tell you this, as a person on the
radio and I am a public person, I would love
to be able to copyright and trademark my voice and
my likeness. But I don't think you can do that yet,
And with as much content as out there with my
voice on it, people could. I mean, I don't know
why they'd want to. I live a pretty boring life.
I don't know what'd be going there, but I think

(52:04):
that's going to be an area of litigation. Somebody's going
to have to pay attention too soon. We're going to
take a quick time out where Gary and Brad will
be right back with your phone calls. If you want
to jump on board with your question. Three oh three
seven one, three eighty five eighty five. We will be
back after this. I have Ted, who has been patiently waiting. Ted,
tell me about your wife's colonoscopy problems.

Speaker 6 (52:25):
Okay, last September, my wife had a routine colonoscope and
it was all good. They said, you're cleaning. You'll never
have to have another one. About a month later, she
went I took her to the hospital because she was delirious.
Actually in the ambulance. Turned out a diverticula had leaked

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poop into her pelvis area.

Speaker 9 (52:48):
She had a.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
Abscessed three and a half by two and a half
by two and a half inches, which blocked off the
blood flow to her leg so she had a blood
cloud from her head to her toes. She was three
weeks in the hospital, three weeks in a rehab and
then she came home and she'd been recovering ever since.
She's doing pretty well, mostly well, But we went through

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hell there and we're just wondering should we soe.

Speaker 15 (53:17):
Well, that's what we call a causation question, and you
should definitely talk to some attorneys. But back again to
the point we made earlier. You know, but ask yourself
this question, what happened that caused caused the first event?
And you know it was it within the risks of
the over the normal procedure. That's the question you ask yourself.

Speaker 16 (53:39):
I would one.

Speaker 8 (53:42):
Either get the medical records yourself for getting a training
to get the medical records and have them reviewed. The
result is terrible. You shouldn't have happened. It's not normal.
I would be getting everything I can for the medical
records and and uh, you know.

Speaker 16 (53:59):
It's soon as you can get them.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
If you, if you have a portal with the insurance
company or whatever, pick up those records, get them to
an attorney to practice in the in in medical malpractice,
and have that attorney look at it and.

Speaker 16 (54:13):
Give it a good understanding. If you if you need
to start, give us a call.

Speaker 8 (54:17):
Uh, We're happy to get you in the right direction
and gets you down the road to see if there's
some kind of negligent act that's caused the problem.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
All right, Ted, you got your martial orders.

Speaker 6 (54:28):
Okay, all right, thank you.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Let me go to Colby. Colby, you were on with
Gary and Brad from Bellin Pollock. What's on your mind?

Speaker 10 (54:36):
Hey, thanks for for for the call.

Speaker 9 (54:41):
I tuned in just I heard the gentleman before the
last gentleman in the Artery Nick scenario, and I I'm
I have no ailments that would that I know of.
I'm an AI engineer, entrepreneur, and I do a lot
in the area of machine learning and computer vision and.

Speaker 8 (55:06):
On and on, and so my question is, what.

Speaker 9 (55:11):
Do you, gentlemen?

Speaker 12 (55:12):
See?

Speaker 9 (55:13):
Are there any I mean, there's AI everywhere, but I
see a real using that gentleman's scenario as an example,
a real solution for that could help you guys. That
takes all the documents, the records pre surgery and post

(55:36):
surgery and diagnoses and sums it up. And I just
don't know if there's anyone, uh, any independent firms have
approached you guys, or if you see anything that's kind
of along those lines.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
So let me just clarify this, because medical AI is
fascinating to me because now we're getting medical AI that
is better at diagnosing than an actual doctor. Right, Well,
it would stand to reason and correct me if I'm wrong. Here, Colby,
you're asking why not create a medical AI specifically to
be able to analyze records before, during, and after an event,

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a surgical event, a medical event, and using that AI
as a foundation to decide whether or not you have
a case.

Speaker 15 (56:20):
Absolutely, I think it's within the realm of everything we
see coming. And I tell you an extra benefit would
be AI would analyze it come to a conclusion or
a or a choice of conclusion one, two or three.
But I can see AI automatically inserting. Here's four articles
from the New England Journal and Medicine on point. Here's

(56:43):
one from m I T on point. Here's one over
here on point.

Speaker 9 (56:47):
It would be cited with sources.

Speaker 10 (56:49):
Yeah, diagree exactly x rays.

Speaker 9 (56:53):
I mean every single thing. I mean more so then
you could have even imagined even five years ago.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Well, Kolby, it sounds like you have a new project.

Speaker 16 (57:04):
Man fascin.

Speaker 10 (57:07):
Up.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
But I'm I'm I'm fascinated with the area of law,
specifically in AI, and and I think that something like this.
Sure when I hang up off Search and see who's
out there, but everybody's so busy because everything is literally up.

Speaker 10 (57:24):
For grat.

Speaker 16 (57:26):
When you find out who's out there.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
I will.

Speaker 9 (57:32):
In fact, here's what I'll do if it's something that
I move into even prototype development, which really is I
don't need a team, uh I, I do it myself.
I'll contact you guys for a little prototype us.

Speaker 13 (57:50):
You know, found it off?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
All right?

Speaker 16 (57:52):
You want to do it?

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Look at us, Blazing Golby. I appreciate the phone call,
Blazing I did. I want to ask you real quick
and then we're going to take quick break and the
we're gonna take Mora's call and Amaura hanging there. I
really want to hear this story. Did you see that
the attorneys for Mike Lindell were dinged by the judge
for submitting a brief that was written by chat GPG. Now,

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this is the difference between having a tool like the
one we just talked about and being an idiot and
basically having someone else write your work and not even
checking it.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
That's the same.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
How do you turn it in without checking it to
make sure it's good?

Speaker 2 (58:30):
I mean, I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
I know there isn't. Okay, I'm gonna bring more on now, Maura,
let's start your story. We may have to take a
break and then come back and wrap it up. But
what's going on with you?

Speaker 18 (58:44):
I was a victim of a harassment, but the person
was clearly in a mental health crisis. But the person
a bystander called for help and the person was arrested.
But I, as a victim, would like to drop the
charge if I am able.

Speaker 13 (59:02):
To do that.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Now, do you have a relationship with the victim or
is it just a random person?

Speaker 10 (59:07):
No?

Speaker 18 (59:08):
I do have a relationship.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Okay, I don't know anything about that, so do you guys?
I know you guys don't do criminal law in any way,
shape or form.

Speaker 18 (59:15):
But what are the Basically a bystander had called, right
and if I was able to make the call, I
would have actually requested a crisis team. But a crisis team.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Did not come right.

Speaker 8 (59:28):
Well without without getting into too much personal and Mandy,
tell me when we got to take a break. But uh,
I'm going to tell you it's going to depend a
lot on your relationship with that person. Uh. It's we're
long past the days that a spouse could be abused
by another spouse and they can just drop the charges
and district attorney won't do anything about it.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (59:48):
They look at the relationship you have with a person,
and and whether that relationship is one of of of
some type of capacity where you're so tight into the person,
such as a spouse maybe, such as a parent, maybe,
such as a child you know or live in, somebody
you're living with, somebody you've developed a relationship with. They

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don't let you just write those off the books anymore. No,
the district attorney's not going to do it. The district
attorney's going to require some kind of charge or some
kind of result. They're usually going to want something on
the record. They're not going to defer it and let
it be wiped off the record. It's going to be
on the record forever so that it can be found
by other attorneys or the other legal authorities to be

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able to make sure that if it happens a second time,
they know it's happened a second time. And normally it
comes with some mental health counseling to the person who
perpetrated the crime or perpetrated the wrongdoing.

Speaker 16 (01:00:48):
And so, but it's going to a lot depend on your.

Speaker 8 (01:00:52):
Relationship with the person to determine whether or not you
can just say I don't want to do it now.

Speaker 16 (01:00:58):
They'll even force you to come to court and test there.

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
You know.

Speaker 18 (01:01:01):
Let me I get one next question, what if it
got to.

Speaker 15 (01:01:05):
That point, Well, they're going to issue a subpoena and
you're going to have to comply with a subpoena period period.
But once they get their hands on it, once they
get involved, once they're present on the scene, prosecutors, I mean,
God bless them. They do a great job, but they're
not giving up. And I got a couple of tips
for you on this, And we don't have time right now,

(01:01:26):
but I got a couple of tips for you that
I think will open your eyes a little bit. How
to approach this.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
If you want to give them a call at their office,
Mora three oh three seven fifty nine hundred. Of course,
not right now because they're here. But if you call
and leave a message, he'll give you a call back.

Speaker 18 (01:01:41):
Okay, thank you so much, Best of luck, Mora.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
That's a tough situation. If you have a family member
with a mental health issue, it is a struggle to
just navigate that on many different levels.

Speaker 18 (01:01:54):
Let's do this.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Let's take a quick time out. But while we're we're
while we're time outing, think this over someone sent this
to here. A while back, I got contaminated gasoline from
a major corporation not based in Colorado. The total repair
bill was twenty five hundred dollars. I know I need
to file in small claims court. The problem is the
Colorado Secretary of State website sucks to try and find
the agent in Colorado. Is there another way to find agency?

(01:02:18):
We'll have an answer for that when we get back.
Keep it right here. We're with Bell and Pollock on
ask the attorney. I've often thought about this when I'm
in a road situation where I might kill someone on purpose,
and then I think to myself, Mandy, please ask your guests.
If something happens which requires a criminal attorney, how do
you find a reputable one? I mean, how do you

(01:02:41):
even go about that?

Speaker 14 (01:02:42):
Well?

Speaker 15 (01:02:43):
I mean there are some that I have good reputations.
But our key when we're asked for a criminal attorney references.
We use former prosecutors, and we know a couple of them,
and they were prosecutors for a long time, then they
became defense attorneys, and that's the ones that we go to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
They are the ones who understand both sides. And again,
I would definitely want them on my side.

Speaker 8 (01:03:06):
And I've got a relative who's a judge in Aurora,
and so you know, sometimes I call him up. I
don't tell Hi about the case, especially when it's not
in Aurora, but I'll ask him for who's been good
in front of you in the courtroom. You know, you
got to ask around. You got to understand where you
got the connections and who you have, and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
Most of us don't have that.

Speaker 16 (01:03:24):
Yeah, well, I would call.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
You guys FYI, So be ready if you get a
call for me, you know, if I need some help.
Let's answer the question that we asked before the break,
and this was from a guy who got contaminated gasoline
from a major corporation not based in Colorado. The total
repair bill twenty five hundred bucks. He says, I know
I need to file in small claims court. The problem

(01:03:46):
is the Colorado Secretary of State website sucks. To try
and find the agent in Colorado. I don't even know
what that means. So is there another way to find agency?

Speaker 15 (01:03:55):
Yeah? So in small claims court you don't really need
to find the agent so much. You serve the person
and it's easy. You don't have to hire a process server.
You can send him by the clerk sent it by
certified mail. Small claims. Cord is designed to help you,
the individual, So it's not a you don't have to
have a sheriff. You can, but you don't have to
have a private process server. You can if you want

(01:04:17):
to make a point, if you want to make it,
emphasize something, but you can. You can do it by
mail and you can send it to them.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
And certified mail so they's signed for it absolutely. So okay,
So there you go. Problem solved. That was an easy one.
Here's why. And we've had about two minutes left, so
we'll see how this goes. Mandy, about a month ago,
my sister got hurt at work. She works for a
very popular food chain in Colorado. What happened was she
walked into the back prep room, noticed that the hatch

(01:04:44):
to the roof was open. As she was not doing
her work back there in the prep room, some man
fell through the hole, falling about ten feet landing on
top of her. She ended up breaking several ribs and
a lot of bruising and a lot of problems. My
question is, because I know it's workman's comp but could
she go after the contractor who fell on her, who
I believe worked for a different company other than the restaurant.

Speaker 15 (01:05:07):
Yes, absolutely, well, I mean there's very.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Little denial of dude fell on me, he broke his fall.

Speaker 15 (01:05:14):
I know she can file the workers comps, she can
go through that, and she can that's called a third party.
And yes, you can go after the third party at
the same time that you do the work compt.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Now, will workman's comp come after any damages that she wins.

Speaker 15 (01:05:27):
Part of them? A great question. By the way, it's
a complicated areas a lot, but part of them, and
the leading case is called the shoulders case. But anyway,
part of them they can get back. But you don't say,
well that's a detern. I don't want to do this,
I can't do this.

Speaker 14 (01:05:40):
You do it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:40):
The work comp is limited, chances are you'll get more
by adding on after the third party.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
To everybody, that's what you need to do. So finally
we got a clear cut answer of yes, you have
a case.

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Gary and Brad can be found every day working there.
Little took uses to the bone at Bell and Pollock
three O three seven ninety five fifty nine hundred. You
can also hear them here Saturday morning at ten, as
I do when I'm driving around, and I always learn
something that I should that I should already know, which
is why I upped my uninsured motors coverage. After one
of your shows one day, I was like, wait a minute,

(01:06:14):
let me find out about that.

Speaker 12 (01:06:16):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
I love this stuff. Not all my listeners love it.
I got a text message from a guy who doesn't
love it, but I was like, I love it and
it's my show.

Speaker 9 (01:06:23):
So here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
I will see you guys soon. You have a great vacation, sir,
headed to one of my favorite places, and we will
be like, yeah, we will be back after this in
just a few minutes. When we get back, I should
probably mention that we have a lot of stuff from
the blog that we have not gotten to including. Denver
Public Schools has claimed that this scheme that they created

(01:06:44):
to create a lease a leasing corporation that they then
sell buildings to for like ten dollars, only to have
to lease them back. They use this to be able
to take on debt without asking the taxpayers, and now
they're being questioned about it, and they've claimed it is
both a public entity and a private entity. Well, now
in attorneys make them figure out which is which. It

(01:07:06):
is a fascinating story. I cannot wait to see how
they figure this out. We'll talk about it next.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Well, no, it's Mandy Connell.

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Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
I promise to the text you hey fast the lawyer.
I will make this the best hour ever. I'm your
host for the next hour, Mandy Connell. That guy over
there in for Anthony Rodriguez is one mister Grant Smith.

Speaker 14 (01:07:53):
Hello.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
That's right, Mandy. Guys should do books on tape. What
a voice? Maybe some Daniel Steel moves? Which guy? There
were three guys. There was Gary and Brad, and then
there was Keenan doing the news, and then Grant just
said hello. Although I think that was a little too short,
give me your best romance novel reading voice. Come on,

(01:08:17):
you can do it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:20):
Yesterday, when I rolled into bed and found my significant other,
her leg pressed against mind, and I knew she was
the one for me forever.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
I'm not buying what you're selling on back rand, I
am not. And then I realized I put you on
the spot and that you were just doing that on
the fly. But let's just stick with what you're doing.

Speaker 15 (01:08:39):
On the taking podcast.

Speaker 8 (01:08:41):
Yeah yeah, uh huh.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
Do you listen to books on tape? No, I regret.
I have listened to books on tape back in the day,
on actual cassette tapes, going back, bringing cassette tapes full
circle circle into the third hour of the show as well,
and I would listen to them on long drives. Right,
so I was actually kind of like I'm based hipstring
right now. Yeah, I listened to books on tape before

(01:09:03):
everybody else was listening to books on tape. But the
person reading the book makes all the difference in the world.
And too many authors think they can read their own books.

Speaker 7 (01:09:13):
I will say one author that made the only book
on tape I've ever listened to was Matthew McConaughey's Green
Lights book.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Did he read it?

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
He reads it? Oh, and it is funny.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
He's an actor. I'm talking about normal people who are
authors who think it's a good idea to read their
own book.

Speaker 15 (01:09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:09:28):
I understand that, and It's funny though, because like my
wife loves the listening to books, and it's like the
same woman or man for so many of the books.
I'm like, how do you even keep track of which
one you're listening?

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
The best book I ever heard was a Tom Clancy
book read by David Ogden Steers of Mash fame, and
it was outstanding. He was so good. It was so good. Okay,
let me get to this Denver Public School story because
I am officially entertained. Now I told you about this racket,
the scheme they came up with, the Denver School Facilities

(01:10:02):
Leasing Corporation. It is an organization that Denver Public Schools
created that they maintain is both a public and private organization.
I'll explain that in the moment. They've asserted in court
documents that the Denver Schools Facility Leasing Corporation, as a
public entity, is entitled to governmental immunity from lawsuits. Now,

(01:10:24):
what is the Denver School Facilities Leasing Corporation? It's a
shell corporation. For lack of a better way, this is
just all me. I'm just I'm making these words. I'm
saying to me, it's a shell corporation that is designed
for the school district to sell school buildings to this
leasing corporation, and they sell them for like ten dollars
and I'm not exaggerating ten dollars. Three schools ten dollars.

(01:10:48):
Why do they do that? Will they do it? So
then the Denver School Facilities Leasing Corporation can take on
debt based on using those buildings as collateral. Now we
all know that in Colorado, governmental organizations are not supposed
to take on more debt until they ask our permission.
So this is a clear effort to obfuscate from the

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taxpayers the fact that Denver Public Schools has racked up
a ton of debt that the voters did not approve.
Now here's where it gets good. So an attorney is
suing Denver Public Schools over this scheme and saying they
violated it. But now they're arguing that it is a
public entity and therefore it's entitled to governmental immunity from lawsuits.

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But the problem is is that when people find CORA applications,
they will say, oh, I'm sorry, it's a separate nonprofit
organization not subject to CORA requests. CORA, of course, being
Colorado Open Records to Act requests. So now this is fantastic.

(01:11:54):
The Licy Owen, the attorney representing an organization called mamas
to Deep, filed emotion on Monday demanding that DPS clarify
whether or not this is a public or private operation.
So I'm guessing that Denver Public Schools is going to

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go out of court and argue that for the purposes
of a lawsuit, they're a public organization, but for the
purposes of open records requests, they are a private organization
because they have no choice. Now, the attorney that filed
the motion that would force this said, the reason that
the building corporations and the DSFLC are private entities is

(01:12:38):
specifically so that they are not bound by the Colorado
Constitution as public entities are. So the building corporations and
DSFLC contract debt and pledge school buildings as collateral because
it would be illegal for their corollaries, the charter schools
and School District Number one, respectively, to do the same. Yes, yes,

(01:13:00):
I can't wait for this. I might take the day
off and go to court to watch this tedious hearing.
So I am dying. And by the way, DPS declined
to comment. This is going to be super super interesting,
especially because the outcome of this case could very well

(01:13:20):
create problems for other districts in Colorado where this little
scheme is widely used and it violates the constitution if
it is a public organization, and if it's a private organization,
then they can be sued. So this, my friends, is
a classic sticky wicket and I am here for it.

(01:13:42):
Denver Public Schools has created the Schrodeger Cat of leasing operations.
It's both alive and dead, it's both public and private.
We don't know what it is. I can't wait. This
is fantastic. This is just really really good. Hey Mandy,
where would I go to listen to today's program? Thanks
for asking? You can go to the Crystal Clear iHeartRadio app.

(01:14:05):
It's free, you know, and while you're there, search the
Mandy Connell Show and when it pulls up, you can
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therefore it means a lot to me. If it means
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to me.

Speaker 11 (01:14:27):
Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
The best audiobook was The Screwtape Letter, read by John Clees.
The Screwtape Letter is being performed at Hang On One's Second,
The screw hang On one Second, one moment. I might
go to this as a matter of fact, The Screwtape
Letters Denver or did I miss it? It might have
happened when I was elsewhere. It's gonna be at the

(01:14:48):
Ellie Hawkins Opera House on August twenty third at four pm.
They know me, grant, they know me four p.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
Is there anything better than the early showtime?

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
When are they going to start doing concerts early? Like
that's all I want to know, you know, give me
an early day.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
Yes, be done with the show by like seven people.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Yeah, but that's happening at four pm on the twenty
third at the Ellie Cowkins. And apparently tickets are being sold.
And by the way, the scroop Tape Letters is by C. S. Lewis,
And but I have not heard the version narrated by
John Clees, so I will have to go check that out.
James Earl Jones on audiobooks for the Win, But grant

(01:15:36):
Google to see how many audiobooks James Earl Jones has narrated.
And here's why. The best audiobook narrators, in my opinion,
are the people that inhabit the characters. They have different
voice inflections, and they have different ways of talking for
different characters. And James Earl Jones just sounds like James
Earl Jones all the time. And how is James Earl

(01:15:59):
Jones going to read a female character like that's just
gonna be weird? Has he narrated audio books?

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:16:07):
According to the Google AI, James Earl Jones narrated a
significant number of audio books, including notable titles like the
Complete Audio Holy Bible.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Oh now that would be good.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
Books of the New Testament.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Wow, now that I can get behind. That is a
great use of James Earl Jones's voice. Oh that's fantastic,
And God said, and it would be like, oh my gosh,
that is what God sounds like. Guess what now when
you go through security, guess what you can do? Grant
you can keep your shoes on.

Speaker 8 (01:16:40):
Woo.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
It's the small victories in life. Have you been through
security at the new fancy security at DA? Have you
done that yet?

Speaker 8 (01:16:48):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:16:49):
I flew a couple of weeks ago and I went
through the standard.

Speaker 7 (01:16:52):
Oh, I gotta tell you the new security. I gotta
tell you, I always get so turned around in Bia.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
I just go where I know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Well, well, when we have conversations, it's like, is it
near the hotel or not? That's the that's the guidestone
of her like near the hodel. Nope, okay, other end.
That's that's what we do. No, the new securities, dare
I say delightful?

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
It's the one with like the things that the tubs.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
Yes, it's very eusical. Lake City's airport. I have that,
and I have to say when DIA gets done, if ever,
it's gonna be great. But now you do not have
to take your shoes off anymore, because Christinome, our Department
of Homeland Security secretary, has said that the technology of
airports has finally caught up with failed shoe bomber Richard Reid.

(01:17:41):
She didn't say that. I added that. And now you
don't have to take your shoes off when you go
to the airport. This ends twenty years of you wondering
if you have a hole in your sock when you
get to that point and the airport. That's kind of
a big deal. Also kind of a big deal. I'm
sure you've all had the same experiences that I've had

(01:18:01):
because I talked about I'm on the show of motorcycles
that are now going down I twenty five between the
cars that like one hundred miles an hour.

Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
It terrifies me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
Well, we've already had one young man die because someone
went to change lanes and he ran into a truck
and died. And now Colorado State Patrol is doing traffic enforcement.
But listen to this. First of all, a police car
in traffic is not going to be able to catch
a motorcycle driving between traffic on the highway right if

(01:18:30):
you're on twenty five and you know it's good, there's
no way to do that. So they are getting crafty
about it. They're using a helicopter. According to CSP, more
than forty five vehicles, including twenty five motorcycles, were contacted
during the operation in assistance with the Patrol's aircraft unit.
Eleven of the forty five were contacted for driving twenty

(01:18:52):
miles or more over the speed limit. Thirteen out of
the total forty five vehicles did not have license plates.
CSP troopers said three drivers were pulled over due to
reckless driving. One motorcycle rider was taken into custody for
felony eluding. However, and this is the part that I love,
I love it, troopers on the ground did not pursue

(01:19:14):
the motorcycle rider involved in the incident due to what
they deemed a significant public safety risk. The motorcycle rider
involved was seen traveling at speeds of one hundred and
twenty miles per hour on C four seventy, weaving in
and out through multiple lanes of traffic, using the right
shoulder to pass vehicles. CSP's aircraft maintained a view of

(01:19:35):
the motorcyclist and tracked him down in a business in
Golden where he parked. There, he was arrested.

Speaker 10 (01:19:44):
Uh huh.

Speaker 16 (01:19:45):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
I'm not anti motorcycle, but I'm getting there, and I
guess I shouldn't say I'm anti motorcycle. I'm anti the
people like this who ride motor cycles. It could happen
when we get back. Can we talk about free market
economics and weight loss drugs? A perfect example of how

(01:20:10):
third party payment distorts the market is becoming rapidly apparent
with Wagov and zet Bound. We're going to talk about
it next. This story about the popular obesity treatments WGOV
and zet bound all right, just could not be a
better example of how the third party payer system distorts

(01:20:30):
the market. So when wagov came out, initially it was
about twelve hundred dollars per month without insurance, okay, And
now willgo V and zet bound are about five hundred
dollars a month without insurance. And the reason that they

(01:20:50):
have dropped so significantly is because a lot of insurances
are not covering these drugs because they don't want to
cover a twelve hundred dollars a month drug indefinitely. Because
what we're seeing over and over again is that people
are going off the drugs and they are regaining the weight,
so then they're going back on the drugs, and you know,
it's like a cycle. So they're either going to pay

(01:21:11):
for these drugs for forever or they're not going to
cover them, and a lot of insurance is just saying nope, sorry,
we're not going to cover it. So in response, the
drug companies who are still making gobs and gobs of money,
I mean, they are making so much money on these
medications it's mind blowing that bound alone brought in two

(01:21:34):
point three billion dollars in sales just this year alone.
Nova Nordisk, who created Wagovi, has about two hundred thousand
weekly prescriptions in the US. We're brought in nearly one
point nine billion in first quarter sales. I mean, you guys,

(01:21:57):
come on, but they know the market for this is huge,
no pun intended, so they're going to drop prices until
people are like, look, you know, I can stay fat
or I can go on this drug and I can
try and deal with it. I'm not anti weight loss drugs.
I've said very clearly multiple times. I know so many
people have had great success, but a lot of them

(01:22:17):
have gained the weight back, and they're not necessarily feeding
their bodies in a healthy way while they're doing it.
So I have concerns. But this is why, because if
insurance paid for this, there's no way these drugs would
be down to five hundred bucks, no way, not a
snowballs chance in hell. So the longer insurance doesn't pay
for this, and I realize it's frustrating if you're trying

(01:22:39):
to get it covered, if you have a real significant
issue and you'd like to try these drugs. I get it.
I'm not mad. I'm not judging in any way, shape
or form. But what a great example. It's the same
with college. College did not used to be outrageously expensive
until the federal government started stepping in to offer third
party assistance. And now it's inane and colleges have no

(01:23:03):
absolutely no incentive to stop building these massive grant Were
you at OU when they built the new whatever, that
big you know, the fitness center thing whatever it is
right there center, Yes, yes, that thing's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:23:19):
And they also built the new School of Communications my
last year there.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Well, at least that you're at least that's for learning.
It's like, at least that serves a function, right, But
these schools are spending enormous sums of money on amenities.
And don't get me wrong, I love amenities, But when
you're going to college, would you rather have a brand
new fitness center or an old raggedy gym and have
college be half the price?

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
Exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
You know, like, take take the half price.

Speaker 5 (01:23:47):
I saw the other I.

Speaker 7 (01:23:49):
Guess a story the other day on social media, and
tell me if this is true. But it said in
the nineteen seventies and eighties, a person could pay for
their college tuition on a part time job.

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
Is that? Is there any truth you know?

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
I'm gonna say no. I know people say I went
to school the first year in nineteen eighty seven. Okay,
that was my freshman year. I had one friend that
worked all summer long, but it was not a part
time job situation. She had like three part time jobs,
so she probably worked forty to sixty hours a week
and saved every penny she had and paid for her

(01:24:23):
first semester. Maybe she paid for the whole year. I
don't know, a part time job like no bag in
groceries twenty hours a week. No, not to my knowledge.
Maybe back in the early seventies, I don't know. But
it all started getting out of control when the government
made it easy for young people who are kind of
dumb to sign up to buy just thousands and thousands

(01:24:47):
and thousands of dollars in debt before they had even
started college. So this is the exact same thing. If
these drugs were covered by insurance, they would not be
coming down in price. It'll be interesting thinking is this.
Somebody asked me, like, where do you think the floor
on these weight loss drugs is I think it's like
three fifty a month, because three fifty a month is

(01:25:09):
a lot of money, so the drug companies are going
to get THEIRS. But it's also if you're really really
struggling and you feel like this is your last best option,
it's also a doable amount for a lot of people.
So we'll see what happens. But I thought that was
kind of interesting and I included it today just so
I could share that with you. Another story that's on
the blog today that I really really am not thrilled with.

(01:25:32):
The IRS has now come out and said churches can
endorse political candidates without jeopardizing their tax exempt status.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
So I.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Don't love this, even though I know that it's been
done for years and years and years and years. How
many times have we seen politicians standing at the pulpit
of black churches putting on their fake accents? Like Hillary Clinton?
I know what you'll talking about. That was one of
my favorite political moments of all time. See if you

(01:26:06):
can find the Hillary Clinton in the Black church audio
grant just to a quick google. See if we can
get it. But the one distinction is is that churches
will now be able to endorse candidates from the pulpit,
but they cannot actively work in the community and endorse
that candidate or suggest people you know vote for that

(01:26:29):
candidate outside of the pulpit. The ruling says, communications from
a house of worship to its congregation in connection with
religious services through its usual channels of communication on matters
of faith do not run a foul of the Johnson
Amendment as properly interpreted. What a house of worship and

(01:26:50):
good faith speaks to its congregation wait, hang on, it
neither participates nor intervenes in a political campaign within the
ordinary meaning of those words. So a pastor can now
endorse a political candidate from the pulpit. And I just

(01:27:10):
want to ask this question, and you can answer at
on the text line by texting to five six six
nine ero. I just want to ask this question. If
you're in a church and your pastor endorses a political candidate,
what do you do. I'm curious because I would probably
change churches. The last thing I need is the person

(01:27:33):
that I'm looking towards for religious guidance to be meddling
in my politics. I don't want those two things to
go together. I really don't uh grant bad news. My
first semester in nineteen seventy seven at Long Beach State
in California was seventy eight dollars. So maybe that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
That's so crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
Yeah, people are pointing out on the blog or on
the text line compounded semi glue tide is two hundred
dollars per month. Trust me when I say that you
will not be able to buy compounded semi glue tide
for much longer because the drug companies are going after
every single company that is selling compounded drugs.

Speaker 14 (01:28:15):
On this.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
Mandy, I worked on campus and had very little debt.
I paid off my loans within a year after graduation
nineteen ninety graduation nineteen ninety. Hey, Mandy, just a constructive note,
Please don't take this wrong. When you say tell them
Mandy Connell sent you, you sound like you're not real
happy about it. Maybe it's because you've had to repeat

(01:28:39):
it so many times. Your smile is definitely gone when
you're saying it. I love your show and admire you
greatly for your sense of humor and everything, but just
thought you might want to know, well, I will try
to put my smile back in. But that's honestly for
me as the talk show hosts the most important part
of the of the entire commercial, because I love for
you to go use my advertisers. I advertise only people
that I strongly believe in. But if you don't tell

(01:29:03):
them that you're there because of me, it does not
help me.

Speaker 15 (01:29:06):
It does not.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
And it is just because I say it at the
end of every single commercial. Just throwing that out there. Anyway, Mandy,
I'm glad Mandy and mister Conall Chuck did not have
those motorcycle folks do something like pull a gun on them.
This happened here in Texas. If you miss the story,
we got like I mean, we got shang Hiede on

(01:29:32):
a major road where motorcycle guys try to stop us.
Chuck just drove through them, and we went to the
police station and fillow the police for bah blah blah
blah this stuff. The worst part about it is that
we were not armed because we were coming back from
the airport. That's the reason Chuck drove like he did. Mandy,

(01:29:55):
don't preach too much about the idiots on motorcycles. My
wife needs an organ transplant in the near future, and
a couple well doctor like people I've talked to, called
them donor cycles. The world needs a supply of young
organs too. Wow, that's true, but harsh. And I hope
that when your wife does get on the list, that
she quickly finds an organ that works for her, because

(01:30:16):
that is incredibly, incredibly stressful. This person went to Metro
State nineteen ninety four to nineteen ninety nine. It was
fifteen hundred bucks a semester plus books. Yeah, it doesn't go.
I don't know how much it costs now. I have
no idea, no clue, Mandy. Here in Nebraska, motorcycles are
such a problem now I no longer care when I

(01:30:36):
hear or see on the news that they're involved in accidents.
Screw the will twice bs. They're a menace. I didn't
always feel that way. I still look twice. I don't
want to hit a motorcyclist, but boy, I wish some
of them weren't jerks. Let's see here, Mandy, when the

(01:30:57):
government took over student loans, the price of skyrocket exactly right,
exactly right, That's what I'm talking about, Mandy. I'm all
for endorsing in church. I'm also in favor of taking
away tax exempt status with it fair is fair. Well,
apparently that's no longer an issue. The IRS is clarified. Mandy.
My church endorse Trump in twenty sixteen. It's a small

(01:31:18):
community church, and I left the church. I also think
they should not have tax exempt status. Thank you love
your show. I'm not opposed to people having taxes MP status.
I'm really not churches. I'm not because a good church
doing good works, helping people in their community, you know,
being a part of the community in a positive way.

(01:31:40):
But I guess render and to Caesar is also a thing. Huh, Mandy.
I think it is more about talking about political issues
than candidates. I appreciate a church taking a biblical worldview
on politics, not endorsing a candidate. This ruling from the
IRS is specifically about endorsing political candidates, specifically, Mandy Cu

(01:32:07):
School of Nursing BSN degree last five semesters, thirty five
hundred pre nursing associate's degree done in one year, two
part time approximately twelve hundred bucks lived at home, two
part time jobs. Nineteen seventy seven graduation. So there you go, Mandy.
My doctor gave me a prescription for the ozompic shots.

(01:32:28):
It was approved by my insurance. After my insurance, my
co payment was still twenty six hundred dollars for eight shots.
You do not have great insurance because they covered it
out of network. You could have paid cash and paid
less than that. Mandy is an atheist. This story is
BS and yes, Mandy, I'm listening again. I haven't changed

(01:32:50):
my mind since our last text exchange. I'm just in
the car, a lot for work and a creature of habit.
Thirty years of listening to koa talk. Still not going
to listen to Ross though, Well, welcome back. I don't
care why you're here. I'm just glad you're here. Maybe
I can crack open your cold, cold heart. Just kidding,
I really am. Nineteen eighty two, the University of Texas

(01:33:13):
system shocked everyone by tripling tuition costs from four dollars
an hour to twelve dollars an hour, which was one
hundred and eighty dollars per semester. So I got ripped off,
apparently at Florida State because I remember paying, I don't.
I honestly don't remember college. I really don't. There's parts

(01:33:34):
of my life that I know I participated in, but
I've got lists like they didn't happen. They're just like,
I don't recall any What are you doing? What do
you voice quibbling over? Is Ben stealing your headphones? Ben Albright? Troublemaker?
You tell he's right here, Ben, they're right there? Yeah,
Oh yeah, they're Dave's. He doesn't mind.

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
Yeah, he's got just he's.

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
Fine with it. He loves it, as a matter of fact,
lick his mic.

Speaker 15 (01:33:57):
Sockey loves that touch Dave Logan's headphone. In fact, when
you get.

Speaker 5 (01:34:01):
Done with the segments, and I'm sure he's fine with it,
just take them.

Speaker 16 (01:34:03):
Off, you take out off of them. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 15 (01:34:06):
When he comes in, I'm gonna run that one by him.
Bryan told me, no.

Speaker 16 (01:34:09):
Don't you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
And he still denies. He said, you lied about the
fact that he said I cheated. What Yeah, he said, Oh,
that's clearly a lie. Not not a chance, not a chance,
He said, you said, I'm just saying no, he didn't.
I didn't hear him saying no. I didn't hear him
say it. I mean it was on the audio recording.
He's just lie, is what he said. So you know,

(01:34:33):
must be foul with Logan. Don't even get me started
on that. Wow, the s and files have my hide
chapped right now, They're just chapped.

Speaker 15 (01:34:44):
The audio doesn't exist the same way those things don't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Yeah mm yeah, anyway you will.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
It's kind of it's kind of uniting the country though
in a weird way, like I'm just saying, like it's
kind of everybody's like, yeah, where where is that?

Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
But the the bigger problem, with the biggest problem with
the whole thing is that it's just another and a
long line of if you're politically connected and rich, are
never going to be held to account for anything. And
I think that people are just done with it. And
a lot of people in Maga they elected Donald Trump
because they were certain it was going to be different
under him.

Speaker 15 (01:35:17):
Guess what it's not, Yeah, hiring the rich guy to
you know, get over on the rich guys.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
It wasn't in twenty sixteen when he campaigned on lock
her up. And then he gets elected and he's like, beautiful, Hillary,
It's all just a scam. I'm getting so cynical and
just like mean about it, like really mean about it.
I can't wait till I retire from this job, and
I will turn off the news and never watch it again,
and then when the world collapses around me, I'll be like,

(01:35:43):
what happened, brom getting your social media?

Speaker 15 (01:35:46):
Yes, I will be on an I will be on it.

Speaker 16 (01:35:48):
I will be in belize.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
I will You will never hear again, Yeah, you'll never
hear it coming again. I just I just want to
dip out. And I have friends like really smart, really well.
They have important jobs, you know, they do important things
with their lives, and they say things like, oh, I
haven't watched the news in seven years, geez, and I'm like,
how do you even do that. They're like, doesn't affect me.

(01:36:09):
I can't change it. And I was like, dang it,
they're right.

Speaker 15 (01:36:12):
Are they happy?

Speaker 9 (01:36:13):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Happy, you're happy.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
Like they look at my job and they all go,
oh no, no, no, no, no, no, I am not
doing that job, even with the no math or heavy lifting,
I am not doing that job. And then I have
to convince myself that they're wrong. Right, No, my job's awesome,
it's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
No, it's the best job.

Speaker 15 (01:36:32):
It is, right, you say into the nearly whiskey glass.

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
No, I can't even drink anymore because I can't sleep
and drink at the same time, although, can I just
give a little shout out to Sierra in Loane Tree
at I twenty five, like right by that Cabella's. I
had a Palomo last night. That was one of the
best cocktails I have had picaminal thing so long. It
was outstanding, and I knew I was having one drink, right,

(01:36:58):
i'mna have one drink. It was so worth it.

Speaker 15 (01:37:01):
It was so good.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
It's just so shout out to Sierra. That was just
an amazing cocktail.

Speaker 15 (01:37:06):
That is a That's a great place, by the way,
great food.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
We've tried to go there so many times, but every
time we go it's super packed. There's a line, and
I'm starving.

Speaker 15 (01:37:14):
Did you go it like sundown so you can see
the view?

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
And no, we didn't. We actually went for my friend
and his birthday last night. We had a great dinner
and it was lovely. We had a really nice time.
But that was the first time I actually ate there.
I've gone there multiple time, but when I'm hungry, I'm like, no,
I'm not waiting. I'm not waiting thirty five minutes. No,
that's not a thing that's going to happen. But it's
time now for the most exciting segment on the radio.

(01:37:37):
I's goine, what did the day look at him?

Speaker 10 (01:37:43):
Bringing it?

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
He's doing such a good chot keep him.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
Yeah there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:37:49):
All right, here is our dad joke of the day. Please,
Dad joke of the day. Once I find it again,
I don't know where it went. Oh, I'm not using
Amazon anymore. I ordered grain for my chickens. But after
I got it, they sent an email asking for my feedback.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
Wow that I appreciated that.

Speaker 7 (01:38:12):
That was wow.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
Anyway, today's word of the day.

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
Please let's have the computer say it so I screw
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Simulacrum.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
Oh, simulacrium.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
You lacrum sim you lacrum lacrum m?

Speaker 11 (01:38:33):
That is?

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
Is that an own or as an adjective, it is
a Now that's a thing. Simulacrum is the space in
the lower part of your back that hurts for no reason.

Speaker 5 (01:38:45):
My simulacrum has been killing.

Speaker 8 (01:38:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Yeah, I believe it's an old wooden ship. Oh good, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
It is an artificial likeness of something that is correct. Simulacrum.

Speaker 7 (01:38:56):
Simulacrum superficial likeness of something, usually as an e tation,
coffee or representation.

Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
There we go, all right, Today's trivia question. According to
local legend, what kind of monster prowls the Honey Island
swamp in Louisiana? A monster prowls? We got the scocape
in Florida.

Speaker 15 (01:39:15):
The poop is this the goat eber, the chepicabra, the
goat creep.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
Of copperas are like in South Florida because all the
Puerto Ricans are into the cup ofcappra.

Speaker 15 (01:39:22):
It was Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:39:23):
No ach of coppras Puerto Rican, isn't it the goat eater?

Speaker 16 (01:39:26):
Yeah, I thought that was Mexican.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
Oh maybe it's just a Latin thing all over that you.
I'm gonna say the swamp thing.

Speaker 15 (01:39:35):
I don't remember what this was. I know there's some
I'm so close.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
But yeah, so far away. A primate like beast with
gray hair and yellow eyes, believed to be the offspring
of escape circus chimpanzees that mated with swamp alligators. The
creature is aptly known as the Honey Island swamp monster.
Not the most creative namers.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
Down there in Honey Island there. Yeah, by the way,
chop ofcabra originally in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 7 (01:40:02):
Mons then all right, Okay, here we go. What is
our jeopardy category? Jeopardy category for today? The only vow
is why no?

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:40:13):
To be in this condition with someone means to be
an exact harmony or a chord.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Mandy, what is synchronicity? No, that's wrong, correctang it, I
forgot the rest of it.

Speaker 15 (01:40:27):
Then what is harmony?

Speaker 10 (01:40:28):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
No, correct, that's what I did.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
Yeah, it's all you.

Speaker 11 (01:40:32):
Ryan.

Speaker 15 (01:40:33):
I'm gonna say zero for a second.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
In sync in sync so you were close?

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
Yeah, bye bye bye to that question.

Speaker 5 (01:40:41):
I hate when I laugh at your jokes.

Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
Well, it means to practice or perform diligently a trade perhaps,
And then try, Mandy, what is ply correct?

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
That's right, I'm back to zero when Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
Tough day of classes.

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
First Econ, then Kim, then this, and I haven't even
done the sign reading from Freud Ryan, Ryan, Oh well,
what is psychology?

Speaker 16 (01:41:11):
But it's not a psychic.

Speaker 15 (01:41:16):
The first time?

Speaker 5 (01:41:17):
I think we just got to scratch that one from.

Speaker 13 (01:41:19):
There said.

Speaker 4 (01:41:22):
Minus one what I said, But it's wrong, just like
synchronicity is the smaller.

Speaker 7 (01:41:30):
Okay, go ahead, And undean is a water dwelling variety
of one of these myths.

Speaker 4 (01:41:39):
That's wrong though. The only vow is why I know,
dang it? We are sucking win today, guys, oh.

Speaker 7 (01:41:47):
Man, I don't know how an undean is a water
dwelling variety of one of these mythic creatures.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
What's what is it?

Speaker 5 (01:41:57):
What is a nymph.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
To think?

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
When I said spriped? Dang it?

Speaker 5 (01:42:03):
What's the score?

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
It's minus one, minus one, minus one.

Speaker 7 (01:42:09):
Somebody's gonna win with zero here Eva is buried and
one of these subterranean chambers and Buenos Aires, what the.

Speaker 8 (01:42:19):
R?

Speaker 10 (01:42:20):
Joe?

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
What is the crip?

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
Ryon wins with a zero today? This is not our
finest moment. What's coming up on KA Sports? I know
Rick Lewis is coming in because he's lurking over. Ray
Lewis is here, Dave's here abbreviated show and you missed
the shot I missed because my other sleeve got caught
on my stupid thing.

Speaker 16 (01:42:39):
We have some fun.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
We'll be back tomorrow for a full show. Keep it
right here,