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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Dave Fraser, Hey, good afternoon, and a happy birthday
to Chuck.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I've never met your husband. I feel like most of
your listeners, you talk about him enough that we feel
like we know him.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So our birthday, Chuck, I will send those messages along
to him and Dave.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Right out of the choot.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We have a question, but it relates to the heat
that we're having right now. A Texter jumped the gun
and texted Ross Kaminski on the show today to ask,
why is most of Weld County outside the heat map
warning on your broadcast? Because it makes it look weird
because the foothills are in it and Weld County is
not in it. Why did Weld County get left out?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah? So, you know the National Weather Service when they
issue advisories like this and either issue it for an
entire county or they have zones and they try and
target the areas that best fit where the message should
be and put the message today, it's about the potential
that we could get anywhere from ninety nine to like
(01:01):
one hundred and one degrees. It be the first time
this year if the censor at the airport reaches one
hundred we've been ninety eight ninety nine that's been the
warmer so far. That was actually on the first day
of summer, was the ninety nine you're joining us. It
has to do with basically where the heat will be retained, Mandy,
and we've talked about this. If you look at that map,
you'll see that all of Metro Denver is in it,
(01:23):
but communities south of there over the Palmer Divide are not.
And it has to do with the heat island where
the heat will be retained a little longer through the day.
And obviously you think about the buildings, the concrete, all
the asphalt, that kind of stuff that retains the heat
and makes it tough for it to cool off even
with the setting sun for a few hours. And parts
of the Front Range includes the foothills, and there is
(01:45):
a wedge in north and northwestern Weld County where the
wind direction out of the northwest has got a little
bit of a downsloping component to it. It may hold
the temperatures they are up. As you move east of
I twenty five into Weld County, it becomes a little
more rural and you don't have that kind of city
environment over wide areas, and so they don't bake as
(02:06):
much as you would find in the metro area. And
like I said, the wind component, the wind component kind
of keeps the foothills in there. But once you get
east of the bottom of the foothills, that wind component,
that heating that downsloping just doesn't exist there. And so
the threshold is a little lower that the heat or
the fields like temperature will reach, you know, one hundred degrees.
(02:27):
And by the way, on a side note, because of
our dry climate, the heat index, which is a measurement
of what it feels like outside, is always about five
degrees lower than the air temperature. So if the temperature
the temperature right now at DIA is ninety six, but
it says it feels like ninety one. Now you're going
to go outside and say it's blazing hot, dad, because
you're in the direct sunlight. But we just don't have
(02:50):
the humidity. And we all know the mechanics of sweating.
When you sweat in a human environment, the moisture is
not removed from your body, and it causes your body
to heat more. When you're in a dry environment and
you sweat, that moisture evaporates, and evaporation is a cooling process,
and it helps to cool your body just a little bit.
So even though the air temperature is one thing that
(03:10):
feels like temperature is lower in this type of situation.
So when you're.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Offering a heat advisory, does it have to be it's
going over one hundred? Feels like because I got this
text Mandy, I live in Weld County and I'm actually
outside right now and it's one hundred degrees. We should
have had a heat advisory. So what kicks in that heat?
What's the threshold?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's basically, here's the thing, and this is kind of
opening up Tandeller's box. It's not related to the heat index.
It is related to the air temperature. It's related to
it's related to stagnant air, lack of wind, the fact
that you know, we don't reach one hundred degrees all
that often here in Denver. It hasn't happened a lot.
(03:49):
You know, there are years where we never get to
one hundred degrees during the summer. And so the argument
is there's a subjective nature to when to trigger when
to not, and he's in the environment we're in today's
it's just a heads up if you will that if
you're going to be outside for prolonged periods today, you've
got to take breaks. You've got to find shade, you've
(04:11):
got to stay hydrated, wear loose, light colored clothing. And
that goes to the workers who are out about making
sure that they're taking breaks, because it is at a
point where, you know, you don't want somebody to overexert
themselves and become, you know, sick with heat illness. Right,
so we're you know, there's kind of a threshold there,
but you could argue that like it's one hundred and
five and two soon or one hundred and eighty two soon,
(04:34):
and so the people living there are the same as
people living here. It's just a matter of are you
used to it? And that's the argument that is played
into this. So exactly, it's a little bit of there's
a little bit of wiggle room as to you know, hey,
we don't get that hot that often. Maybe we should
just keep binkle of heads up.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, Dave roz Kaminski's in the studio with me, and
he's got a weather question for you.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Hi, David sure Russ, Hey, I want to follow up on.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Something you just said. So well, you know, I've got
a sister in law who lives in Phoenix, and it's
one hundred and eighteen or something else, and you, Dave,
you just talked about getting used to it, and I
was wondering, do bodies actually get used to it? Or
is it sort of a psychological thing. I've been through
it enough and it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Die.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, And I didn't die.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm still here.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It is fine. Or does over time do people's bodies
really react differently?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So maybe you live somewhere hut for a.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
While and your body doesn't react until ninety five degrees,
when somebody else's body would react the same way at
ninety degrees.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well, I'll answer this. I'll give you an example, and
it ties right into your question about your family member
down in Phoenix. So I my wife's family lives in
the Phoenix and Tucson area. My son moved to Tucson
a little more than three years ago to attend the
University of Arizona, and he lives down there. My son
grew up here. My son grew up in winters. He
(05:55):
loves skiing, he loves Colorado's climate. He's been back to
visit us sometimes in the fallen complain it feels too
cold and we look at them like you're crazy, and
herst Yeah. Her sisters will come up to visit, and
my wife is is I don't want to say cheap,
but she's little singy on the thermometer. Like we during
the winter, our our thermostad in the house during the
(06:17):
winter is sixty four and during the summer the eighth
doesn't kick on till eighty. Oh we will in your house. Yeah,
but when our family members from Phoenix come up, I
do rocks think that they get acclimated to it and
they know how to deal with that kind of heat.
Because my sister will all come up and you know
that heat won't kick onto sixty four. She's walking around
in a shawl like she's said, you know, die of prostite.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
That's hilarious. Let me ask you this, Let me ask
you this question. I got some good questions before you
even came on today, so I want to get these in. Hey, Mandy,
question for Dave June seventeenth, A tornado touched down in
oh dag Navity just updated. A tornado touchdown near Divide, Colorado. Historically,
it's been extremely rare for this to occur. Sow near
(06:59):
the mountains and idea why that happened.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's a thunderstorm that had an up draft on it.
I saw the pictures. It does happen. It is rare.
It is odd because the atmosphere there is not as
tall as it is down over the east eastern plane.
You know, you want the photostorm to stretch out and
to grow vertically to get kind of that strength to
be able to create a tornado. But there is what
we call low top convection that can do that, and
(07:23):
we have seen evidence of that. There's been many instances
of tornadoes being spotted in around Pike's Peak because of
the wind direction and the storm's coming up over that
higher terrain as they come up the backside near Divide
and those areas. So it can happen, and it has happened.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So what are we looking at in terms of how
many days of oppressive heat do we have? And as
I was driving to work today, I was looking around.
Everything is still really green right now, which is nice
because I don't have to worry about you know, super
like aust the chards, fire danger. But what are we
looking at for the next few days and when will
we get a little bit of a reprieve.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
The little replieve comes tomorrow. Our forecast is in the
low nineties. There will be more clouds than there is
about a twenty to thirty percent chance of scattered storms
in the afternoon. Now like the last few days where
we had some microverse damage with trees down across the area,
especially in Centennial, that's attributed to quickly rising and drying
(08:19):
thunderstorms to collapse and throw a gust of wind at
the ground that hits a localized area and blasts out
in a kind of a circular direction, it can cause damage.
We've seen that. I would say that dusty wind tomorrow
could be possible with the storm, but because of the
cloud cover will be down to about ninety two to
ninety three. Then Friday has a better chance of rain.
We're in the low eighties Friday, Saturday back to ninety
(08:41):
ninety one. Sunday, Monday dry, and then back to low
eighties again with more rain coming on Wednesday and Thursday
of next week. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week.
So the green you're seeing out there, we are getting
intervals of rain at the right time after bouts of
hot weather. I love the mixture it's perfect is and you.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Know we can.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
All I can say is, Dave, it's not Japan hot
and a humid So whatever we're dealing with, I can
take it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Put me in coach. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yep, Dave Fraser.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Last question from our texter. By the way, I have
several Texters who are are very upset about your wife
not kicking the air on until eighty I believe we're
going to start a GoFundMe to provide the Fraser household
with air conditioning at a more civilized temperature. But well,
last question ask Dave, who makes the decision feels like
(09:32):
a person from Anchorage or Saudi Arabia, And I think
that kind of goes to what you're talking about. Depending
on where you're from, depends.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
On what it feels like. Yeah, it's Ross, It's you know,
it's the same thing Ross pointed out. It's arbitrary. If
you're used to a certain climate and a certain way
of things, you do kind of acclimate to that environment,
and then when you move it takes a little while.
My son's a perfect example. He should be able to
stand cold windshills below zero, but he comes up here
during the winter. Now after living in Arizona Promost four
(10:00):
years and he complains about it being cold. We're like
to go back to Arizona. Yep, there you go, Dave Fraser.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'll talk to you again soon, my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I like
Hi, Dave Fraser, Hey, good afternoon, and a happy birthday
to Chuck.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I've never met your husband. I feel like most of
your listeners, you talk about him enough that we feel
like we know him.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So our birthday, Chuck, I will send those messages along
to him and Dave.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Right out of the choot.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We have a question, but it relates to the heat
that we're having right now. A Texter jumped the gun
and texted Ross Kaminski on the show today to ask,
why is most of Weld County outside the heat map
warning on your broadcast? Because it makes it look weird
because the foothills are in it and Weld County is
not in it. Why did Weld County get left out?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah? So, you know the National Weather Service when they
issue advisories like this and either issue it for an
entire county or they have zones and they try and
target the areas that best fit where the message should
be and put the message today, it's about the potential
that we could get anywhere from ninety nine to like
(01:01):
one hundred and one degrees. It be the first time
this year if the censor at the airport reaches one
hundred we've been ninety eight ninety nine that's been the
warmer so far. That was actually on the first day
of summer, was the ninety nine you're joining us. It
has to do with basically where the heat will be retained, Mandy,
and we've talked about this. If you look at that map,
you'll see that all of Metro Denver is in it,
(01:23):
but communities south of there over the Palmer Divide are not.
And it has to do with the heat island where
the heat will be retained a little longer through the day.
And obviously you think about the buildings, the concrete, all
the asphalt, that kind of stuff that retains the heat
and makes it tough for it to cool off even
with the setting sun for a few hours. And parts
of the Front Range includes the foothills, and there is
(01:45):
a wedge in north and northwestern Weld County where the
wind direction out of the northwest has got a little
bit of a downsloping component to it. It may hold
the temperatures they are up. As you move east of
I twenty five into Weld County, it becomes a little
more rural and you don't have that kind of city
environment over wide areas, and so they don't bake as
(02:06):
much as you would find in the metro area. And
like I said, the wind component, the wind component kind
of keeps the foothills in there. But once you get
east of the bottom of the foothills, that wind component,
that heating that downsloping just doesn't exist there. And so
the threshold is a little lower that the heat or
the fields like temperature will reach, you know, one hundred degrees.
(02:27):
And by the way, on a side note, because of
our dry climate, the heat index, which is a measurement
of what it feels like outside, is always about five
degrees lower than the air temperature. So if the temperature
the temperature right now at DIA is ninety six, but
it says it feels like ninety one. Now you're going
to go outside and say it's blazing hot, dad, because
you're in the direct sunlight. But we just don't have
(02:50):
the humidity. And we all know the mechanics of sweating.
When you sweat in a human environment, the moisture is
not removed from your body, and it causes your body
to heat more. When you're in a dry environment and
you sweat, that moisture evaporates, and evaporation is a cooling process,
and it helps to cool your body just a little bit.
So even though the air temperature is one thing that
(03:10):
feels like temperature is lower in this type of situation.
So when you're.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Offering a heat advisory, does it have to be it's
going over one hundred? Feels like because I got this
text Mandy, I live in Weld County and I'm actually
outside right now and it's one hundred degrees. We should
have had a heat advisory. So what kicks in that heat?
What's the threshold?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's basically, here's the thing, and this is kind of
opening up Tandeller's box. It's not related to the heat index.
It is related to the air temperature. It's related to
it's related to stagnant air, lack of wind, the fact
that you know, we don't reach one hundred degrees all
that often here in Denver. It hasn't happened a lot.
(03:49):
You know, there are years where we never get to
one hundred degrees during the summer. And so the argument
is there's a subjective nature to when to trigger when
to not, and he's in the environment we're in today's
it's just a heads up if you will that if
you're going to be outside for prolonged periods today, you've
got to take breaks. You've got to find shade, you've
(04:11):
got to stay hydrated, wear loose, light colored clothing. And
that goes to the workers who are out about making
sure that they're taking breaks, because it is at a
point where, you know, you don't want somebody to overexert
themselves and become, you know, sick with heat illness. Right,
so we're you know, there's kind of a threshold there,
but you could argue that like it's one hundred and
five and two soon or one hundred and eighty two soon,
(04:34):
and so the people living there are the same as
people living here. It's just a matter of are you
used to it? And that's the argument that is played
into this. So exactly, it's a little bit of there's
a little bit of wiggle room as to you know, hey,
we don't get that hot that often. Maybe we should
just keep binkle of heads up.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, Dave roz Kaminski's in the studio with me, and
he's got a weather question for you.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Hi, David sure Russ, Hey, I want to follow up on.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Something you just said. So well, you know, I've got
a sister in law who lives in Phoenix, and it's
one hundred and eighteen or something else, and you, Dave,
you just talked about getting used to it, and I
was wondering, do bodies actually get used to it? Or
is it sort of a psychological thing. I've been through
it enough and it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Die.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, And I didn't die.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm still here.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It is fine. Or does over time do people's bodies
really react differently?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So maybe you live somewhere hut for a.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
While and your body doesn't react until ninety five degrees,
when somebody else's body would react the same way at
ninety degrees.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well, I'll answer this. I'll give you an example, and
it ties right into your question about your family member
down in Phoenix. So I my wife's family lives in
the Phoenix and Tucson area. My son moved to Tucson
a little more than three years ago to attend the
University of Arizona, and he lives down there. My son
grew up here. My son grew up in winters. He
(05:55):
loves skiing, he loves Colorado's climate. He's been back to
visit us sometimes in the fallen complain it feels too
cold and we look at them like you're crazy, and
herst Yeah. Her sisters will come up to visit, and
my wife is is I don't want to say cheap,
but she's little singy on the thermometer. Like we during
the winter, our our thermostad in the house during the
(06:17):
winter is sixty four and during the summer the eighth
doesn't kick on till eighty. Oh we will in your house. Yeah,
but when our family members from Phoenix come up, I
do rocks think that they get acclimated to it and
they know how to deal with that kind of heat.
Because my sister will all come up and you know
that heat won't kick onto sixty four. She's walking around
in a shawl like she's said, you know, die of prostite.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
That's hilarious. Let me ask you this, Let me ask
you this question. I got some good questions before you
even came on today, so I want to get these in. Hey, Mandy,
question for Dave June seventeenth, A tornado touched down in
oh dag Navity just updated. A tornado touchdown near Divide, Colorado. Historically,
it's been extremely rare for this to occur. Sow near
(06:59):
the mountains and idea why that happened.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's a thunderstorm that had an up draft on it.
I saw the pictures. It does happen. It is rare.
It is odd because the atmosphere there is not as
tall as it is down over the east eastern plane.
You know, you want the photostorm to stretch out and
to grow vertically to get kind of that strength to
be able to create a tornado. But there is what
we call low top convection that can do that, and
(07:23):
we have seen evidence of that. There's been many instances
of tornadoes being spotted in around Pike's Peak because of
the wind direction and the storm's coming up over that
higher terrain as they come up the backside near Divide
and those areas. So it can happen, and it has happened.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So what are we looking at in terms of how
many days of oppressive heat do we have? And as
I was driving to work today, I was looking around.
Everything is still really green right now, which is nice
because I don't have to worry about you know, super
like aust the chards, fire danger. But what are we
looking at for the next few days and when will
we get a little bit of a reprieve.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
The little replieve comes tomorrow. Our forecast is in the
low nineties. There will be more clouds than there is
about a twenty to thirty percent chance of scattered storms
in the afternoon. Now like the last few days where
we had some microverse damage with trees down across the area,
especially in Centennial, that's attributed to quickly rising and drying
(08:19):
thunderstorms to collapse and throw a gust of wind at
the ground that hits a localized area and blasts out
in a kind of a circular direction, it can cause damage.
We've seen that. I would say that dusty wind tomorrow
could be possible with the storm, but because of the
cloud cover will be down to about ninety two to
ninety three. Then Friday has a better chance of rain.
We're in the low eighties Friday, Saturday back to ninety
(08:41):
ninety one. Sunday, Monday dry, and then back to low
eighties again with more rain coming on Wednesday and Thursday
of next week. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week.
So the green you're seeing out there, we are getting
intervals of rain at the right time after bouts of
hot weather. I love the mixture it's perfect is and you.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Know we can.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
All I can say is, Dave, it's not Japan hot
and a humid So whatever we're dealing with, I can
take it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Put me in coach. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yep, Dave Fraser.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Last question from our texter. By the way, I have
several Texters who are are very upset about your wife
not kicking the air on until eighty I believe we're
going to start a GoFundMe to provide the Fraser household
with air conditioning at a more civilized temperature. But well,
last question ask Dave, who makes the decision feels like
(09:32):
a person from Anchorage or Saudi Arabia, And I think
that kind of goes to what you're talking about. Depending
on where you're from, depends.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
On what it feels like. Yeah, it's Ross, It's you know,
it's the same thing Ross pointed out. It's arbitrary. If
you're used to a certain climate and a certain way
of things, you do kind of acclimate to that environment,
and then when you move it takes a little while.
My son's a perfect example. He should be able to
stand cold windshills below zero, but he comes up here
during the winter. Now after living in Arizona Promost four
(10:00):
years and he complains about it being cold. We're like
to go back to Arizona. Yep, there you go, Dave Fraser.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'll talk to you again soon, my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I like
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